Senate throws Obama’s Baton in the dumpster; takes fiscally responsible stance and rejects abject Obama Socialism

obama socialist

It is not remarkable that the Socialists, who got a Bush Backlash boost in the 2006 and 2008 elections, had enough votes to dominate the US House of Representatives and pass the PelosiCare bill. It was a matter of mathematics.

That these Socialists, who voted for the bill, ignored the majority of American voters dissatisfaction with the Socialist Health Care Solution was also a matter of mathematics.

The Socialist response to dissatisfaction with ObamaCare/PelosiCare, is what? … that of subtraction of any interest in the majority will of We the People.

That in the looming 2010 Elections, the Socialist House Majority will be minus enough house seats to push it to a minority status, is also a matter of simple mathematics.

So, one is left with the obvious conclusion…

…the all out Socialist bid to transform America into a Socialist Country is a Political Kamikaze Fall on their Sword bid for a one time 2009/2010 Preemptive Strike to destroy the American Free Market System, or politically die trying.

Their risk is great as is the risk to America if they succeed.

What is remarkable is 39 Democrat House of Representatives voted against the Socialist Economic Weapon of Mass Destruction thus against the Socialist’s government take over of American Health Care.

What is also remarkable is 64 Democrats voted for the  Stupak Amendment which aborts the PelosiCare Bill’s provision for Federal Funding for Aborting Human life.

A total of 219 Democrats voted in favor of a final bill which guts Fed Funding of Abortion. So, all is not well in Pelosi’s House of Cards and if the Stupak amendment is stripped out after the house vote on PelosiCare, expect to see a war between the Socialists and the Moderates on the left side of the aisle.

39 DEM Reps Votes
Was Significant Bi-Partisan Opposition
to PelosiCare.

But the Socialists
Don’t Want To Talk About That,
Do They?

Now Comes the Senate and  the Senator from Connecticut, Joe Lieberman:

That Joe Lieberman is an Independent is seriously important. It is a signal that American Independents reject to a Socialist Takeover Bid by Obama & Co that would destroy the US Economy.

From Politico.com:

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he’d back a GOP filibuster of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s health care reform bill.

Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid’s has said the Senate bill will.

“We’re trying to do too much at once,” Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now.”

Lieberman added that he’d vote against a public option plan “even with an opt-out because it still creates a whole new government entitlement program for which taxpayers will be on the line.”

His comments confirmed that Reid is short of the 60 votes needed to advance the bill out of the Senate, even after Reid included the opt-out provision. Several other moderate Democrats expressed skepticism at the proposal as well, but most of the wavering Democratic senators did not go as far as Lieberman Tuesday, saying they were waiting to see the details.

Lieberman did say he’s “strongly inclined” to vote to proceed to the debate, but that he’ll ultimately vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn’t changed first.

“I’ve told Sen. Reid that if the bill stays as it is now I will vote against cloture,” he said.

 

Because the Socialists will not admit their true intent of destroying the free market system is built into ObamaCare they can not deny the truth of it.

So what to do to block ObamaCare opposition? …the Socialist Fifth Column will double down on their personal attacks on Joe… the same kind of personal attack smear and besmirching war as they wage on  Sarah Palin and every other American by using their Socialist Fifth Column Media Operatives and their Internet Organizations.

Watch for an all out assault by the Socialist Fifth Column on Joe Lieberman to make an example of him and dominate DEM Senators into bowing down to Socialism.

Oh… and Obama himself staged theatrical personal attacks to smear and besmirch all Americans who dissented against the ObamaCare/PelosiCare WMD in the House of Representatives, calling them ‘tea bag’ extremists.

What Obama fails to acknowledge?  He, as the holder of the Office of President of the United States , by personally attacking citizens in that way, brings DISHONOR to the office that he holds.

Personally, I don’t think he much gives a damn.


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108 Responses to Senate throws Obama’s Baton in the dumpster; takes fiscally responsible stance and rejects abject Obama Socialism

  1. m2 says:

    Great round up VF!

    Amazing. The real bi-partisan teamwork was in Opposition to what the WSJ called “the worst pieceof legislation ever in Congress”.

    Lieberman – HERO

  2. m2 says:

    From CNBC:

    The dollar will get “utterly destroyed” and become “virtually worthless”, said Damon Vickers, chief investment officer of Nine Points Capital Partners.

    “We don’t have resources. Neither does a lot of Asia to be quite frank,” Vickers said on CNBC’s Asia Squawk Box. “Countries that have resources — the Brazils, the Canadas, Australia — their currencies are doing well.”

    Vickers noted that their stock markets have done the best year-to-date.

    “They have stuff. They’ve got resources. They export real things. The United States exports ‘promises’ and ‘pretty paper’,” he added.

    Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 has risen 23% this year alone compared to a 14% gain in the Dow Jones Industrial Average .

    Due to the huge wage disparities between the United States and emerging markets like China, Vickers said that may resolve itself in some type of a global currency crisis.

    “If the global currency crisis unfolds, then inevitably you get an alignment of a global world government. A new global currency and a new world order, so we may be moving towards that,” he said.

    Vickers added that this is the time where investors should be making money when the trend is developing.

    “Oil looks higher, gold looks higher, currencies look weaker.”

  3. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Everyone! It is good news that it might be doa in the Senate but Reid could still use the nuclear option to push it through the Senate.

  4. m2 says:

    I have no doubt he WILL, tellit.

    This is a struggle for them knowing they will have big losses in 2010, and believing they can cheat the vote, change the rules of gov’t, or lie their way through it. A political kamikaze, oh yes. But the heightened offense is them believing they can exert control by force after passing the building blocks if a communist state. They seem to be relying on this alone, I say this because of how little they care about the voting public.

  5. tellitlikeitis says:

    Health Care Bill Worst Law Since 1930s: Forbes

    Published: Monday, 9 Nov 2009 | 8:02 AM ET Text Size By: Antonia Oprita
    Associate Web Producer, CNBC.com

    The health care reform that the House of Representatives approved late Saturday is bad for the US and will actually damage the health care system, Steve Forbes, CEO at Forbes, told CNBC Monday.

    The bill approved by the House expands coverage to nearly all Americans and bars insurance practices such as refusing to cover people with pre-existing medical conditions.

    But the battle is now shifting to the Senate, where work on the health care reform has been stalled for weeks as Democratic leader Harry Reid searches for an approach that can win the 60 votes he needs to overcome Republican procedural hurdles.

    The Senate version on the public option is different to that voted on by the House and eventually the two parliament houses will have to agree on one bill to be passed again and then sent to President Barack Obama to be signed.

    “This is the worse piece of legislation to pass Congress … since the 1930s,” Forbes told “Squawk Box.”

    “I think short-term they’ll take losses next year, but more manifestly they’re going to hurt the economy,” he added.

    If the bill is passed, it would bring the biggest changes in the $2.5 trillion health care system, which accounts for one-sixth of the economy, since the Medicare government health insurance program for the elderly was created in 1965.

    But the reform as was proposed risks to kill innovation and is bad for businesses as it will raise costs, Forbes said.

    In the next 10 years “we’re going to have ballooning taxes,” he added.

    According to the House bill, exchanges where people could choose to purchase private insurance or a government-run option opposed by the insurance industry will be set up. The bill would also offer subsidies to help low-income Americans buy insurance.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/33786810

  6. Foxwood says:

    Fox needs to come up with it’s own search engine. Google is the best at what it does, but I know those bozo’s (sorry Bozo) are Commie Libs.

    I would use another engine if Google were not so good. I’ve been searching… This will just make me search harder…

    From:
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/News-Corp-Boss-Rupert-Murdoch-Says-Online-Newspaper-Pages-Will-Be-Invisible-To-Google-Users/Article/200911215446006?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_7&lid=ARTICLE_15446006_News_Corp_Boss_Rupert_Murdoch_Says_Online_Newspaper_Pages_Will_Be_Invisible_To_Google_Users

    News Corp Sites ‘To Be Removed From Google’

    12:49pm UK, Monday November 09, 2009

    Adam Arnold, Sky News Online
    News Corp chairman Rupert Murdoch has suggested the company’s online newspaper pages will be invisible to Google users when it launches its new paid content strategy.

    A Google webpage

    Google won’t be able to find News Corp sites under new plans

    He claimed that readers who randomly reach a page via an internet search hold little value to advertisers.

    When asked by Sky News Australia’s political editor David Speers why News Corp has not stopped Google from finding its content, Mr Murdoch replied: “I think we will.”

    He cited the Wall Street Journal as an example of where only the first paragraph comes up on search engines and is free. Anything after that is subscription-based.

    He is planning to make newspapers like The Times and Sunday Times chargeable online.

    Using the robots.txt protocol on a site indicates to automated web spiders such as Google’s not to index that particular page or to serve up links to it in users’ search results.

    News Corp chairman Rupert Murdoch

    News Corp chairman Rupert Murdoch

    As well as Google, he criticised other sites like Microsoft and Ask.com for also taking a free ride on its content – “the people who just simply pick up everything and run with it – steal our stories … without payment”, he claimed.

    He said: “There’s not enough advertising in the world to make all the websites profitable. We’d rather have fewer people coming to our websites but paying.

    “There are no news websites or blog websites anywhere in the world making any serious money, some may be making breaking even or making a couple of million.”

    Referring to people finding News Corp stories via search engine websites, he said: “When they click it, they get the page with the story that’s in our paper.

    “Who knows who they are or where they are. They don’t suddenly become loyal readers of our content.”

    He then turned his attention to the BBC, saying it was a “scandal” that everyone with a TV was “compelled” to pay a licence fee.

    He said although the BBC did not charge for its own online content, it was the taxpayer who was ultimately paying for it.

    Earlier in the year, his son, James Murdoch, called for major changes in the way UK broadcasting is run and regulated, and strongly criticised the BBC and TV watchdogs.

    :: News Corporation is a minority shareholder in BSkyB, which runs Sky News.

  7. Foxwood says:

    Morning M2, Tellit!

    It’s a non stop vigil on the fight against Communism in the United States.

  8. Foxwood says:

    As I reread the article, It looks like only the News Corp. Pay site will not be on Google. Does that mean Fox will no longer have a free site?

  9. samhenry says:

    VF – good, insightful and ahead of the curve post per usual.

  10. samhenry says:

    FOX – Google is not THE best or the most comprehensive by and of itself.

    Strangely, if you google internet search engines, all you get is DOGPILE. You have to enter “search engines -DOGPILE to get past it.

    Here is an academic site at U. Berkley with good advice. Google will only get you 80% of your search. You need a “second opinion” so they list two.

    I also strongly feel as a former librarian that, as in ranking Dictionaries, you need to know not only that for which you are searching but what search engine is best for it.

    That will take a little research but will be well worth it.

    I can’t give ALL of my secrets away -lol.

  11. samhenry says:

    Here’s a good one that filters search engines for you by topic

    http://www.searchengineguide.com/searchengines.html

  12. samhenry says:

    FOX – Murdoch will be on Google. He is just probably negotiating for the right deal by his statement. He is in the business of publicity – remember that.

  13. samhenry says:

    FOX here is an even easier tool to use to find the right search engine

    http://www.internettutorials.net/engines.asp

  14. Foxwood says:

    Some good info there SamH. I can google and find just about anything I need. I have it’s workings and wording down pat. What I don’t like is that they track your searches and (try in my case) place cookies on your computer to follow your activities.

    That is too much Big Brother for me, and if they pull a GE move, they will be telling the government our activities.

  15. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning M2! Tellit!

  16. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning again SamH! Fox!

  17. VotingFemale says:

    just say screw google and try scroogle.org

    it searches via google and give you the results which filters out google ads and google tracking cookies

    Foxwood says

    Some good info there SamH. I can google and find just about anything I need. I have it’s workings and wording down pat. What I don’t like is that they track your searches and (try in my case) place cookies on your computer to follow your activities.

    That is too much Big Brother for me, and if they pull a GE move, they will be telling the government our activities.

  18. VotingFemale says:

    My take on Murdock rejection of google search-ability is to deny google ad revenues for searches which serve up full articles from Murdock’s print media sites… not from FOX News who use their websites to augment their television business, unlike print media websites.

    Many print media sites want subscriptions to allow them to profits presently being snatched by google using Murdock’s print media websites for free.

    Print media has to turn a profit or die…

  19. VotingFemale says:

    and yeah… for Murdock to get into the search engine business itself is likely something he considers.

    Google is going past it’s prime IMO and this is but a sign of that.

  20. VotingFemale says:

    Thank you M2, and SamH for your nice compliments of this blogpost!

    Want to make people happy!

  21. Foxwood says:

    “Print media has to turn a profit or die…

    and yeah… for Murdock to get into the search engine business itself is likely something he considers.”

    It would be a very good idea for News Corp. to get into the search business. That could be his profit machine with his content.

  22. m2 says:

    My Internet is so slow.
    It’s aggrevating.

    I will support the capitalist Murdoch over Soros capitalist any day of the week. I’ll buy a subsciption to WSJ just to pump them up and beyond the failing partisan-Socialist rags.

    I hope Liberty Media does buy NBC.

    I hate and detest the Google corp, and will now work to transfer all stakes I have in Google to a different service. I said it before, but now I’m ready to stop procrastinating/being lazy about it.

  23. m2 says:

    My gravatar is the amazing first lady of politics, Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire. Lady of Britons Whig party who railed against the centralized power of the royals, and stood bravely with the American Revolutionaries.

    That’s right, progressive-central power ideologues. The woman who broke the ceiling first was an anti-central power, self reliant conservative.

  24. VotingFemale says:

    M2, thanks for telling me about your avatar!!

    Duchess Georgiana of Devonshire who stood with the American Revolution against British Crown Tyranny of the Colonies.

  25. m2 says:

    Yes, actually there is a movie based on the amazing book written by Amanda Foreman, but as is the case with all- THE BOOK IS BETTER.

    She was a champion for the rights of the individual.

    I can safely declare, it is my favorite book.
    I have to run out for a bit…

    see all later!

  26. VotingFemale says:

    Seems the US Army and the CIA/FBI have a lot of ‘splainin to do, re: Hasan the Assassin.

    Isn’t Political Correctness of Islam just so darn warm and fuzzy?

    Some high level heads need to roll over this… and every single Muslim in the armed forces need a full body cavity search and total monitoring of their every move and word.

    The president looks like an all out ass as does the leftists hugging of Hasan for their Victimology Political Purposes.

    If Hasan had been a Radical Christian who pulled this they would be calling for the firing squad first and questions later as would B. Hussein Obama.

  27. m2 says:

    I’ll also add that she ‘sided’ with the royals of France expressly because the “radicals” were taking over and she knew them to be a bloody lot of fascist “progressives”… France hasn’t truly recovered.

  28. samhenry says:

    FOX – re Google cookies and tracking – all search engines except one do that.

  29. samhenry says:

    Have to go to get something done today. No work; no pay does not equal play!

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  31. VotingFemale says:

    someone missed my comment about

    http://scroogle.org

    the search engine that uses google and filters out ads and the placing of cookies by google on your computer.

    samhenry says

    FOX – re Google cookies and tracking – all search engines except one do that.

  32. samhenry says:

    DOG yells down from hot air balloon:

    No, indeed great CAT, I did not spot it from this height.

    Do not miss the dictionary post with your entry.

    You are always promoted at samandimp.wordpress.com. See especially the pedigree and training tab at the bottom of the text page.

  33. samhenry says:

    You have been ahead of me all morning. I now see that you have caught up with the dictionary.

    I wish I had had longer to deal with it. I may do a refinement or update later.

    I am catching up with the rest of the news. It is hard because I have to translate all into English from the French for Clarence the brave Bassett.

  34. samhenry says:

    Stay of execution for DC sniper rejected by Supreme Court and Governor has said he will not stop it.

  35. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lawmakers Detail Obama’s Pitch
    By Jackie Calmes
    In an odd coincidence, the House debate on Saturday to overhaul health care took place on the third anniversary of the 2006 election that gave Democrats majority control after 12 years of Republican dominance. It fell to President Obama and to Congressional leaders to persuade those Democrats still sweating the final vote that it would not prove the party’s undoing in next November’s midterm elections.
    Both Mr. Obama and the House leaders showcased Democrats’ newest colleague, Representative Bill Owens, who last Tuesday won a special election in an upstate New York district that Republicans had held since 1872. In the campaign, Mr. Owens gave unabashed support to the pending House health care bill, despite the opposition of national conservative groups, including the new Tea Party Patriots, who backed Mr. Owens’ conservative rival.

    Mr. Obama, during his private pep talk to Democrats, recognized Mr. Owens election and then posed a question to the other lawmakers. According to Representative Earl Blumenauer of Oregon, who supports the health care bill, the president asked, “Does anybody think that the teabag, anti-government people are going to support them if they bring down health care? All it will do is confuse and dispirit” Democratic voters “and it will encourage the extremists.”

    Another freshman Democrat from New Mexico, Representative Martin Heinrich, said the president’s comments overall were reassuring. “If you want to see a recipe for failure,” Mr. Heinrich said, “don’t do the things you talked about in your campaigns and turn your back on your base. All the independent voters in the world don’t matter if the Democrats don’t turn out.”

    “This is an opportunity to do something as big as Social Security,” he added. “And me, personally, I don’t want to be on the wrong side of history.”

    http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/lawmakers-detail-obamas-pitch/

  36. samhenry says:

    Hallo, it iz moi, le Clarence. Muzt stey in zee class wiz SamHenri tu dey. Bye Bye.

  37. samhenry says:

    The DOG yells excitedly – Clarence! Back in the basket! Clarence scrambles into basket. Hot Air balloon drifts off – like Barney Frank when listening to Nancy Pelosi.

    I do have a theory about why Obama will not be going to Germany to celebrate the fall of the wall. There may besecurity reasons. Hey the Republicans aren’t the onl ones under observation.

  38. samhenry says:

    Morning Tellit. Sorry I can’t stay. Keeping up with Clarence is a full time job.

  39. tellitlikeitis says:

    Republicans take aim at vulnerable Democrats in health war

    Within minutes of Saturday’s historic House vote on health care reform, Republicans pronounced the political death of Rep. Thomas Perriello (D-Va.), pointing to the vulnerable freshman congressman’s vote in favor of the bill.

    And in the aftermath of the politically charged vote, Perriello wasn’t the only Democratic congressman whose fortunes were being reassessed. The GOP, which voted nearly in lock step against the measure, began crowing about the demise of various other vulnerable members and seized on the moment as a milestone in the path back to a House majority.

    Other than Perriello — who was the target of 12 consecutive postvote GOP e-mails accusing him of breaking his promises — a handful of members immediately stood out for casting especially tough votes.

    Three of them are junior legislators from highly competitive Ohio districts: first-term Reps. Mary Jo Kilroy and Steve Driehaus, and Rep. Zack Space, a second-term Democrat from a district that backed GOP presidential candidate John McCain in 2008.

    Kilroy, who is facing a 2010 rematch against the Republican she narrowly defeated by 2,300 votes last year, took to the House floor Saturday morning to declare her support for the bill.

    “This is a moral issue,” Kilroy said, in a speech that noted her own trials with multiple sclerosis.

    Driehaus, like Kilroy a freshman Democrat who is facing a rematch with his 2008 opponent, former GOP Rep. Steve Chabot, voted for the health care bill only after it was stripped of funding for abortion.

    “This isn’t about politics,” Driehaus told POLITICO before stepping into the chamber to cast his vote. “It’s about doing what’s right for the American people. I haven’t thought a minute politically what this might mean. This is about doing the right thing.”

    For Perriello, Kilroy, Driehaus and Space, the health care bill represented their second exceptionally tough vote this year — the other was on the cap-and-trade bill — meaning they’ve essentially doubled down on the ambitious national Democratic agenda.

    New York Democratic Rep. Bill Owens, who was sworn into office earlier this week after winning a closely watched special election, may also find that he sinks or swims with the national party next year.

    Winning narrowly in what was originally a three-way contest, Owens voted for Saturday’s bill after holding an ambiguous position regarding a public option. It didn’t take the National Republican Congressional Committee long to pounce, saying his vote “could be the quickest broken promise in the history of Congress.”

    On the whole, however, many Democrats sitting in politically marginal seats took the path of least resistance. Of the 39 Democrats who voted against the $1.2 trillion package, 31 hail from districts McCain won in 2008. And seven of the 10 Democrats rated as most endangered by The Cook Political Report also voted “no.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29306.html

  40. Foxwood says:

    YEP! I’m hooked on Screw Google… Now I need to make a search wigit for my firefox…

  41. Foxwood says:

    “Keeping up with Clarence is a full time job.”

    Can I light the fuse next time! I’m real good at lighting fuses!

  42. tellitlikeitis says:

    Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
    Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used ‘Electronic Means’ to Connect with Terrorists

    U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

    Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan tried to make contact with people linked to al Qaeda.It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.

    Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said that he requested the CIA and other intelligence agencies brief the committee on what was known, if anything, about Hasan by the U.S. intelligence community, only to be refused.

    In response, Hoekstra issued a document preservation request to four intelligence agencies. The letter, dated November 7th, was sent to directors Dennis Blair (DNI), Robert Mueller (FBI), Lt. Gen Keith Alexander (NSA) and Leon Panetta (CIA).

    Hoekstra said he is “absolutely furious” that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan’s attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.

    “This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agencies—not the CIA—have the lead,” CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. ” Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect.”

    if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.

    In a blog posting early Monday titled “Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing,” Awlaki calls Hasan a “hero” and a “man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.”

    According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.

    The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.

    The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.

    He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI , Awlaki moved to Yemen.

    People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.

    “If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance,” Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873

  43. m2 says:

    You guys, rush said the abortion issue was the single issue trick they’d been planning to use… ti pass this.

    And that 7 dems were at odds with Nancy, but the dems threatened/coerced them with investigations on corruption.

    Remember that “leak” ???

  44. m2 says:

    Also, Hasan went and got lap dances two days before he went on jihad?

    What kind of RELIGIOUS PIETY is that??????

  45. samhenry says:

    This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agencies—not the CIA—have the lead,” CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. ” Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect.”

    And we’re back to Congress taking pot shots at the CIA. Looks like it was a stray bullet.

    Also, it is possible that the FBI or whatever agency was did not pick him up because he was essentially a lead for them about who his contacts were.

    The Military may have known about this and cooperated. They may have preferred to get him out of there because of his psychological profile but may have been advised not to do so because of national security.

    There are “a million stories in the naked city.”

    And now for additional reason Obama did not want to go to Germany for today’s celebration:

    Hillary was already packed. Even if there were matters of security – he is happy to sacrifice her.

    He did not like the kind of music played – Berlin Philharmonic (Only the best symphony orchestra in the world) and Bon Jovi.

    It was raining

    The honeymoon is over between Barack and the people of Berlin. They now see through him – oh wait – this is not an open admnistration. They have their suspicions.

  46. samhenry says:

    BREAKING MEWS (a tribute to the CAT)

    I can’t stop laughing. I have had two hits on my site from people using search terms on search engines:

    Nancy Pelosi Breasts

  47. samhenry says:

    FOX – thanks for your offer to light Clarence’s fuse but alas, he is here to protect Warrant and her children until her husband is home from overseas.

    “Taat iz coreect Sam de Henri.”

    Clarence – you NEVER interrupt the DOG – especially when in the middle of negotiating the saving of your life. Avast.

    I may have to think about that FOX.

  48. m2 says:

    I just can’t get over the progressives that are self appointed rulers of the world. How could anyone watch or support CNN knowing the man cavorts with the Soros who assisted the Nazis?

    HOW?

    Why does anyone spare 1 look at Oprah knowing she thrust Obama into the lime light and she herself attended Wright’s church of hate.

    What a joke!

  49. samhenry says:

    Ah, but M2, regardless – it’s a beautiful morning – perhaps we can sell it to Soros

  50. Foxwood says:

    I get alot of search terms like

    animals farm f*ck
    and
    f*ck farm animals

    I assume it because of the allowance of the usage of the f word on my blog…

    Sick bastiches!

  51. arlenearmy says:

    This has been a rough yr. Y’al think we can get thru this hell?

  52. m2 says:

    Ppl let me copy a status update from a friend on facebook…. One minute…

  53. m2 says:

    “it doesn’t matter what you do. It doesn’t matter what you think. The new world order is coming, and there isn’t a thing anyone can do about it. Doesn’t matter how many ppl oppose draconian healthcare reform, or anti-constitutional reform, it is happening as they pass HR 3962 even though 80 percent of us are against it. They DON’T CARE about us.”

    Ppl I agree.
    Is it fatalistic or realistic, or a twisted optimism? No matter where we defeat them, they will keep coming back. Do you all think the polarized liberals in this nation are going to accept anything but?

    We best enjoy life and… Work for truth. But I don’t think there’s any stopping the most entreanched dis-honest corrupt congress in the history of the world.

  54. m2 says:

    And what I mean is, we can put a republican conservative in, and as soon as she’s there the world against so much that we stand for, our own polarized liberals will get even more violent-they have taken 80 years almost to make it to thus point, it is probably inevitable- in some respect or another.

  55. Foxwood says:

    At some point in time M2, it has to get violent, if that’s the way it’s going to be. I don’t advocate joining a militia group, but I will join one, if it comes to what your saying. I will not go down without a fight. There are millionaires who are funding some of these groups to arm them. If a state like Texas secedes, I will move there.

  56. samhenry says:

    I really think that even if we push back the Dems in the upcoming elections, the dikes will break again. We need to actively seek blacks and Latinos and other groups to join our movement or the movement is DOA. There are just too few of us right now.

  57. tellitlikeitis says:

    There won’t be any world order it will be the new world disorder. It will be total kaos and pandamonium. You need to have some type of army to get people to bend to your will. The American mility will not comply.

  58. m2 says:

    SH, I think that thinking falls into the false paradigm that the progressives created. Like the trickery of making a horrendous bill onto 1-issue politics. The bill should have been killed regardless of stupak.

    The Latinos may vote for the progressives over 1-issue politic (naturalization of illegals), but what good is that if we are all devoid of free choice and made poor by their communist/NWO movement.

    No doubt the way these deceptive progressives frame the debate is duplicitous, and meant to inevitably accept their machinations of change.

    We should not play to racial politics like the decievers, we should just remain true and authentic. I don’t see another way.

    But I do note however, the immigration “reform” is precisely why the progressive/deceptives want it to continue to advance their selfish world agenda based on death.

    Not exactly “values” most Latinos hold.

  59. m2 says:

    Ron Paul weighs in on HealthScare:

    If the Obama administration keeps its promise in guaranteeing not to raise taxes to pay for universal health care, the only way to cover the costs will be for the Federal Reserve to print even more money out of thin air, a process that will kill the dollar and lead to lower living standards for all Americans, warns Congressman Ron Paul.
    In his weekly Texas Straight Talk telephone update, Dr. Paul said that Saturday night’s passage of the health care bill in Congress will lead to a further devastation of the American economy and the greenback.

  60. tellitlikeitis says:

    Here is some good news.

    Feds seek 30 year sentence for William Jefferson

    Federal prosecutors are seeking the harshest prison sentence ever handed out to a member of Congress for former Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.), arguing that his “stunning betrayal of public trust” warrants what could be a life sentence for the long-time lawmaker.

    The Justice Department is asking a federal judge in Alexandria, Va, to lock up Jefferson, 62, for up to 33 years, according to documents filed by prosecutors on Friday.

    That is far longer than the eight-year sentence given to former Rep. Duke Cunningham (R-Calif.) when he was sentenced in March 2006 for taking more than $2.4 million in bribes, as well as tax evasion and fraud.

    Jefferson was convicted in August on federal charges of bribery, fraud, money laundering and violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, the first sitting member of Congress to be hit with that allegation. Jefferson tried to bribe the Nigerian vice president on a telecom contract for a company that the congressman secretly had a stake in. About $90,000 from that bribe was later found in Jefferson’s freezer when federal agents raided his home.

    “The defendant betrayed the public’s trust time after time by using his congressional office as a criminal enterprise to a further a pattern of racketeering acts of corruption and self-enrichment,” federal prosecutors wrote. “His crimes included no fewer than eleven distinct bribe schemes as well as a conspiracy involving an extraordinary and historically unprecedented to agreement to bribe the the-sitting Vice President of Nigeria, Atiku Abubakar.”

    According to DOJ estimate, these bribery schemes – which involved companies in west Africa – could have netted Jefferson and his family “hundreds of millions of dollars.”

    Jefferson got $478,000 in bribe money, including $367,500 from Kentucky businessman Vernon Jackson. Jackson himself received a 87-month sentence, or more than seven years.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29328.html

  61. m2 says:

    Tellit, don’t know if the military will defy the govt -look how they’ve been trodden down with political correctness, and gun control verses the terrorist Hasan. They couldn’t even punish him for fear of his religion/minority status.

    The public has largely been desensitized to this massacre by the liberal culture, media etc.

    I think the progressives will have us in a global governance before half the population even realizes it.

  62. Foxwood says:

    We also need to take back our schools. The teachers unions are the main source of indoctrination in our school system.

  63. VotingFemale says:

    hahahahaha!!!!!

    I’ll go do it too so you can three! 😉

    samhenry says

    BREAKING MEWS (a tribute to the CAT)

    I can’t stop laughing. I have had two hits on my site from people using search terms on search engines:

    Nancy Pelosi Breasts

  64. VotingFemale says:

    what choice do we really have?

    I have recharged…

    arlenearmy says

    This has been a rough yr. Y’al think we can get thru this hell?

  65. VotingFemale says:

    DearThe Communist teacher problem must be addressed… time to put the anti-communist think tanks on the job.

    It will have to be a multi-front solution including the communist witch hunt of singled out teachers in our K-12 school classes. Wont be hard to identify them as they are quite brazen now.

  66. tellitlikeitis says:

    Nancy Pelosi’s Breasts? OMG! I saw a recent picture of her and it appears that time and gravity have not been very kind to Nancy Pelosi’s breasts.

  67. m2 says:

    Here’s what we’ll say to the Progressive-Deceptives that have been hiding in our midst since Teddy Roosevelt!

  68. Foxwood says:

    It’s the Eye of the Kitty, brother!

  69. samiam60 says:

    2010-2012

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  71. samhenry says:

    Tellit – with Pelosi it’s boobs ahoy – she floats on them.

    Hi everyone: – Tellit – I was hoping the article on William Jefferson would be on Clinton.

  72. arlenearmy says:

    Did y’all see foxnews of the jihad terrorist website praising hassan? Seems like their website is crashing.

  73. samhenry says:

    Did you get the url Arlene?

  74. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    TheFoxnews showed the terroist website to be at:

    http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/

    They even got a youtube at:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/MuhamedAbdullah

  75. arlenearmy says:

    SH:
    But when I clicked on that website a few minutes ago it says:

    “Not Found

    The requested URL http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/ was not found on this server.”

  76. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    However, I did not refresh the other window, that shows the front page of that terrorist website. Its very pathetic and ANTI American.

  77. arlenearmy says:

    ALERT
    I think the terroist friend had a websote at:

    http://islammaldives.wordpress.com/

    But I think wordpress suspended the terrorist website.

  78. samhenry says:

    I have come across some “missing” sites doing google searches. They are for websites with controversial subjects.

  79. samhenry says:

    I just clicked on your url and got the site:

    http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/

  80. samhenry says:

    What has been scrubbed at the site is the continuation of the article declaring that Hassan was right.

  81. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    You must had reached a cached page because when I click in a new browser window the following url

    http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com

    The following message pops up:

    “Not Found

    The requested URL http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/ was not found on this server.”

    Its a 404 not found – message
    Not Found

    The requested URL http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/ was not found on this server.

  82. ohiobelle says:

    I am so pissed! At the same time American’s suffer yet another terrorist attack on US soil; the commies are celebrating their rush to Socialism!! I am surprised everybody is sitting back and not taking action! Here is something new I just read:

    “Buried in Nancy Pelosi’s health-care bill is a provision that will partially repeal tax indexing for inflation, meaning that as their earnings rise over a lifetime these youngsters can look forward to paying higher rates even if their income gains aren’t real,” the editors write.

    This is budget trickery at its worst: To raise money to make their plan appear as if it won’t add to the federal deficit, House Democrats have intentionally not indexed the main tax feature of their plan: the $500,000 threshold for the 5.4-percentage-point income tax surcharge, and the tax on small businesses which don’t provide health insurance benefits.

    MY POINT HAS BEEN PROVEN! DEMOCRATS DO NOTHING BUT SPEND OTHER PEOPLES MONEY AND WEAKEN OUR NATION!

  83. ohiobelle says:

    I’ve got some things I’ve got to do for work but I’ll be checking back in from time to time.

  84. arlenearmy says:

    That website was shown on:

  85. LisaInTX says:

    Opinion in Brief

    “In the aftermath of last year’s Obama sweep, we heard endlessly about its fundamental, revolutionary, transformational nature. How it was ushering in an FDR-like realignment for the 21st century in which new demographics — most prominently, rising minorities and the young — would bury the GOP far into the future. One book proclaimed ‘The Death of Conservatism,’ while the more modest merely predicted the terminal decline of the Republican Party into a regional party of the Deep South or a rump party of marginalized angry white men. This was all ridiculous from the beginning. 2008 was a historical anomaly. A uniquely charismatic candidate was running at a time of deep war weariness, with an intensely unpopular Republican president, against a politically incompetent opponent, amid the greatest financial collapse since the Great Depression. And still he won by only seven points. Exactly a year later comes the empirical validation of that skepticism. … What happened? The vaunted Obama realignment vanished. … The Obama coattails of 2008 are gone. The expansion of the electorate, the excitement of the young, came in uniquely propitious Democratic circumstances and amid unparalleled enthusiasm for electing the first African-American president. November ’08 was one-shot, one-time, never to be replicated. Nor was November ’09 a realignment. It was a return to the norm — and definitive confirmation that 2008 was one of the great flukes in American political history.” –columnist Charles Krauthammer

  86. LisaInTX says:

    The Last Word

    “These are the times that try conservatives’ souls. A liberal president wants funding for defense slashed. Congress aims to increase taxes and regulate just about everything. Activist judges create new ‘rights’ while ignoring long-standing precedent. So why remain upbeat? Because our country still has the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. They’re the touchstones of our liberty — and the conservative trump cards in the battle of ideas. ‘We don’t need to remake America, or discover new and untested principles,’ writes scholar Matthew Spalding in his latest book. ‘The change we need is not the rejection of America’s principles but a great renewal of these permanent truths about humanity, politics, and liberty — the foundational principles and constitutional wisdom that are the true roots of our country’s greatness.’ In short, we need a roadmap back to where our country should be. … Every American should know the founding principles of our country. ‘The meaning and power of these ideas will be lost in the course of a lifetime if they are not taught to each generation of students,’ Spalding warns. … The principles of our Declaration and our Constitution must again become ‘an expression of the American mind,’ as Thomas Jefferson once said. We can — and must — insist that our leaders again abide by true constitutional principles. But we also must rediscover these principles as a people if we are to reclaim our future.” –Edwin J. Feulner, president of The Heritage Foundation

  87. Foxwood says:

    Hi Ho, Hi Ho,
    It’s out the door I go!

  88. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning my fellow Patriots 🙂

  89. samhenry says:

    Morning Sami – I’m back to bed but just wanted to greet another early riser.

    Fox — hope you made it out the door.

  90. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  91. Foxwood says:

    Morning Sami, SamH, VF!

  92. Foxwood says:

    Good night. Going to bed…

  93. m2 says:

    Hmmm this YouTube had no emailable link … I don’t know how to get a link.

  94. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Samiam! SamH! Foxwood! M2!

  95. VotingFemale says:

    I have a slant on a topic that is not being well discussed it should be quite well ahead of the curve on that controversial political topic.

    I plan on doing a blogpost on it and hopefully a second blogpost on Hasan today.

    Hasan will do one of four things I suspect…
    1. claim emotional stress and blame the Army

    2. proclaim he is indeed an Islamic Radical who killed in the name of Allah and has no regrets.

    3. a combination of 1. and 2.

    4. keep silent… depending on how much sway his lawyers will have over him.

  96. VotingFemale says:

    that link appears to be pointing to a list of youtube links.

    m2 says

    Hmmm this YouTube had no emailable link … I don’t know how to get a link.

  97. VotingFemale says:

    Ok… off to do a blogpost

  98. m2 says:

    Yeah YouTube doesn’t want ppl sharing it, is what I figure. It’s hard for me to tell because I’m not on a computer- again.

  99. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!

    Justice Dept. Asked For News Site’s Visitor Lists

    In a case that raises questions about online journalism and privacy rights, the U.S. Department of Justice sent a formal request to an independent news site ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day.

    The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site “not to disclose the existence of this request” unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization.

    Kristina Clair, a 34-year old Linux administrator living in Philadelphia who provides free server space for Indymedia.us, said she was shocked to receive the Justice Department’s subpoena. (The Independent Media Center is a left-of-center amalgamation of journalists and advocates that – according to their principles of unity and mission statement – work toward “promoting social and economic justice” and “social change.”)

    The subpoena (PDF) from U.S. Attorney Tim Morrison in Indianapolis demanded “all IP traffic to and from http://www.indymedia.us” on June 25, 2008. It instructed Clair to “include IP addresses, times, and any other identifying information,” including e-mail addresses, physical addresses, registered accounts, and Indymedia readers’ Social Security Numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and so on.

    “I didn’t think anything we were doing was worthy of any (federal) attention,” Clair said in a telephone interview with CBSNews.com on Monday. After talking to other Indymedia volunteers, Clair ended up calling the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco, which represented her at no cost.

    Under long-standing Justice Department guidelines, subpoenas to members of the news media are supposed to receive special treatment. One portion of the guidelines, for instance, says that “no subpoena may be issued to any member of the news media” without “the express authorization of the attorney general” – that would be current attorney general Eric Holder – and subpoenas should be “directed at material information regarding a limited subject matter.”

    Still unclear is what criminal investigation U.S. Attorney Morrison was pursuing. Last Friday, a spokeswoman initially promised a response, but Morrison sent e-mail on Monday evening saying: “We have no comment.” The Justice Department in Washington, D.C. also declined to respond.

    Kevin Bankston, a senior staff attorney at the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, replied to the Justice Department on behalf of his client in a February 2009 letter (PDF) outlining what he described as a series of problems with the subpoena, including that it was not personally served, that a judge-issued court order would be required for the full logs, and that Indymedia did not store logs in the first place.

    Morrison replied in a one-sentence letter saying the subpoena had been withdrawn. Around the same time, according to the EFF, the group had a series of discussions with assistant U.S. attorneys in Morrison’s office who threatened Clair with possible prosecution for obstruction of justice if she disclosed the existence of the already-withdrawn subpoena — claiming it “may endanger someone’s health” and would have a “human cost.”

    Lucy Dalglish, the executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of The Press, said a gag order to a news organization wouldn’t stand up in court: “If you get a subpoena and you’re a journalist, they can’t gag you.”

    Dalglish said that a subpoena being issued and withdrawn is not unprecedented. “I have seen any number of these things withdrawn when counsel for someone who is claiming a reporter’s privilege says, ‘Can you tell me the date you got approval from the attorney general’s office’… I’m willing to chalk this up to bad lawyering on the part of the DOJ, or just not thinking.”

    Making this investigation more mysterious is that Indymedia.us is an aggregation site, meaning articles that appear on it were published somewhere else first, and there’s no hint about what sparked the criminal probe. Clair, the system administrator, says that no IP (Internet Protocol) addresses are recorded for Indymedia.us, and non-IP address logs are kept for a few weeks and then discarded.

    EFF’s Bankston wrote a second letter to the government saying that, if it needed to muzzle Indymedia, it should apply for a gag order under the section of federal law that clearly permits such an order to be issued. Bankston’s plan: To challenge that law on First Amendment grounds.

    But the Justice Department never replied. “This is the first time we’ve seen them try to get the IP address of everyone who visited a particular site,” Bankston said. “That it was a news organization was an additional troubling fact that implicates First Amendment rights.”

    This is not, however, the first time that the Feds have focused on Indymedia — a Web site whose authors sometimes blur the line between journalism, advocacy, and on-the-streets activism. In 2004, the Justice Department sent a grand jury subpoena asking for information about who posted lists of Republican delegates while urging they be given an unwelcome reception at the party’s convention in New York City that year. A Indymedia hosting service in Texas once received a subpoena asking for server logs in relation to an investigation of an attempted murder in Italy.

    Bankston has written a longer description of the exchange of letters with the Justice Department, which he hopes will raise awareness of how others should respond to similar legal demands for Web logs, customer records, and compulsory silence. “Our fear is that this kind of bogus gag order is much more common than one would hope, considering they’re legally baseless,” Bankston says. “We’re telling this story in hopes that more providers will press back and go public when the government demands their silence.”
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/09/taking_liberties/entry5595506.shtml?tag=mncol;txt

  100. tellitlikeitis says:

    Betting Against Obama Health Care Increases as Time Grows Short

    By Ryan J. Donmoyer and Kristin Jensen

    Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) — Insurers such as WellPoint Inc. and Blue Cross Blue Shield and drugmakers are redoubling their efforts to fight proposals to overhaul the U.S health-care system, adding another obstacle as legislative hurdles mount.

    The insurers oppose competition from a new government-run program that’s included in both the House and Senate plans. The trade group representing drugmakers such as Pfizer Inc. says a House provision to allow the government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare would cost tens of thousands of jobs.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won passage of her version of the legislation on Nov. 7 only after forcing her party’s liberal wing to make concessions and can’t count on those votes for a final version. In the Senate, time is running out to get a bill passed this year, leaving the effort vulnerable to a loss of momentum and a new backlash from Republicans in 2010.

    “They know they don’t have 60 votes,” said former Senator John Breaux, who now heads a lobbying firm that represents the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the drug industry’s Washington trade group. “They have to go back to the drawing board” on the plan to set up a government-run insurer, he said.

    The House version passed 220-215 after Pelosi agreed to allow an ultimately successful vote that puts limits on the use of federal funds for abortion, setting up a later fight. The measure also includes a new government insurer, the so-called public option, that will pose less of a threat to private insurers than the original proposal.

    Senate Outlook

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid may have to go through a similar process in his chamber. He’s trying to placate liberals by pushing for a public option and eventually may have to give up on the idea. He’s also trying to bridge differences over how to fund the bill and whether to require employers to offer insurance, as well as tiptoe through issues including abortion.

    “Because of the degree of difficulty, it wouldn’t surprise me to see it roll over into the first quarter of 2010,” said William Frenzel, a Brookings Institution scholar in Washington who was a Republican member of Congress for 20 years.

    The only Republican to support any Senate proposal so far, Maine Senator Olympia Snowe, said Reid’s plan for a public option that allows states to opt out is unacceptable. And Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, an independent who caucuses with Democrats, reiterated his opposition yesterday.

    Lieberman’s Vote

    “As a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote” if the public option remains, Lieberman said on “Fox News Sunday.” Lieberman’s state is home to health insurer Aetna Inc., based in Hartford.

    Without Snowe and Lieberman, Reid is at least one vote shy of the 60 he needs, and he risks losing weeks to a fruitless push for the public option. Should work spill into next year, breaks in the schedule and looming elections may open the effort up to the same types of criticism that dogged Democrats during their August recess.

    “The longer any bill is hanging in the winds, the harder it is to pass,” said Sean Spicer, a former aide for the House Republican conference. “When you have a 2,000-page bill, there is always something you can find to rally opposition around.”

    President Barack Obama is pushing Congress to send him legislation by the end of the year.

    “Now it falls on the U.S. Senate to take this baton and bring this effort to the finish line,” Obama said yesterday.

    Reid Won’t Commit

    Reid last week wouldn’t commit to Obama’s timeline. He plans to recess his chamber for three days starting Nov. 11 for a Veterans Day holiday and the week of Nov. 23 for Thanksgiving.

    Reid faces additional pressure because just one senator can effectively block legislation through procedural means. His colleagues say he will struggle to find enough votes to even begin a debate that senators say may last as long as six weeks.

    “We are far from the end of the debate in the Senate,” said Senator Jack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat, on yesterday’s “Face the Nation” program on CBS.

    And that’s even before the House and Senate work together on a compromise, a process that would occur after a Senate vote and may take months.

    Lawmakers are trying to craft a bill to cover tens of millions of uninsured Americans while curbing medical costs. Their proposals for new purchasing exchanges, subsidies and a requirement that all Americans have insurance represent the biggest changes to U.S. health care in four decades.

    Insurers Speak Out

    The Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association, a federation of plans that it says cover more than 100 million members, released a statement criticizing the House plan minutes after it passed. The legislation “undermines the goals of comprehensive health-care reform,” the group said.

    “This legislation will significantly increase health-care costs and force many Americans to accept changes to the insurance plans they currently have and value,” said Angela Braly, chief executive officer of Indianapolis-based WellPoint, in an Oct. 28 earnings conference call.

    At least on the House side, the insurers’ battle is being joined by drugmakers.

    “While well-intentioned, the bill — as passed — would have the unintended consequences of killing tens of thousands of jobs in our industry,” said Ken Johnson, senior vice president of PhRMA, which represents New York-based Pfizer, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey-based Merck & Co. and other drug manufacturers.

    Pelosi’s Fight

    Pelosi lost the votes of 39 House Democrats this weekend and can’t count on all the votes she did win for a House-Senate compromise. Some Democrats who favor abortion rights and voted for the legislation said they won’t support a final bill that contains the funding restriction.

    “To say that this amendment is a wolf in sheep’s clothing would be an understatement of a lifetime,” Representative Diana DeGette, a Colorado Democrat, said during the debate.

    A big difference between the House and Senate bills lies in the way they pay for the legislation, which costs more than $800 billion over 10 years.

    The House funds its legislation largely with a surtax on couples who earn more than $1 million a year. The Senate is planning a tax on insurers who offer high-end benefit plans.

    The prospect of having the bill fail may force negotiators to include scaled-back versions of both proposals, said Clinton Stretch, a former congressional aide and principal at the Deloitte Tax LLC consulting firm in Washington.

    “The political risks of failure are pretty high,” he said.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSkKYFb.82VM

  101. VotingFemale says:

    new blogpost is completed… should be controversial and a poke in the eye of Leftists who think they have won some sort of political battle… I see it as a blow to Leftist Socialist Political Weaponology.

    Hate Crimes Law will Strengthen Conservatism, Weaken Leftists; the unintended consequences

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