The Tyrannical DC Socialists know in their hearts of hearts… when they lost Massachusetts …they lost America.
Americans will not go down on our knees before the DC Socialist Tyrants or any other Tyrants… EVER.
This is OUR COUNTRY!
American’s Country
And We in Massachusetts
just responded with…
THE PERSUASION OF POWER
Now…
Go do the People’s Work
In the People’s Seat in the US Senate,
Senator Brown (R-MA)
and God Speed
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HOTAiR: Quotes of the day and Politico: House Dems already starting to run from ObamaCare and Scott Brown elected senator from Massachusetts and Open thread: Massachusetts; Update: “Cautiously optimistic”; Update: Cook Report analyst calls it; Update: Larry Sabato calls it
Dick Morris: THE NEXT BATTLE: STOP SOCIALISM and MASSACHUSETTS IS THE GAME CHANGER
BigGovernment: Wednesday Open Thread: Bush Edition and Winners, Losers and Lessons From Tuesday and It’s Your Principles, Stupid and Dems Assemble Circular Firing Squad Over Coakley Loss; Freedom Left Intact – For Now **LINK FIXED** and Brown Wins Massachusetts Senate Race
HillBuzz: The Silence of the Trolls and MUST SEE TV: Post-Election Focus Group in Massachusetts and “Obama probably failed lunch. Democrats should have stuck with Hillary” and Wednesday Open Thread: January 20th, 2010 and Anyone willing to go to Leftist sites and report back on what they are saying about Hottie McAwesome’s win? and An Open Message To Sarah Palin: Ninja Throwing Stars on Facebook Needed Now and Martha Coakley concedes. Thus, there is no reason whatsoever not to seat Scott Brown TOMORROW and THE SCOTT HEARD ‘ROUND THE WORLD: HOTTIE McAWESOME WINS!!!
Gateway Pundit: Dem Spokesman Alan Grayson: Nothing Changes With Scott Brown Win (Video) and Speaker Pelosi In Total Denial Following Bay State Backlash – Ready to Take Down Dem Party For Obamacare and One Final Look at the Marcia Martha Coakley Campaign (Video) and President Obama Reacts to Mass Loss: “You Can’t Win Them All” and Senator Scott Brown Challenges President Obama to Game of Basketball (Video) and Rush Limbaugh: “This One’s For You, Mary Jo” and Scott Brown: “I Spoke to Interim Senator Paul Kirk & He Has Completed His Work” (Video) and Dear GOP: Let Scott Brown Give Response to SOTU Address– In His Truck and GREAT SCOTT! Live Streaming the Scott Brown Election Party– Election Updates —COAKLEY CONCEDES!!
Sister Toldjah: “Massachusettes” stages another revolution – SCOTT BROWN WINS! (MULTIPLE UPDATES) and “Massachusettes” votes: Brown v. Coakley (UPDATE 15: VICTORY!)
Nice Deb: Video: Scott Brown’s Victory Speech + Political Fallout Round-up and Sore Loser Olbermann: Doubling Down On Yesterday’s Anti- Brown Idiocy and Sore Loser Olbermann: Brown Win A “Euphemism” For Racism or Something
Frugal Café: Updates of Massachusetts Special Election 2010… Go, Brown, Go! Miracle in the Making? It’s Not Over Yet… BROWN WON, COAKLEY CONCEDES! and Thumbs Up: Vietnam Veteran Drove 1,600 Miles to Volunteer for Scott Brown (video)
Talk Wisdom: Scott Brown Wins Massachusetts Senate Race! and 2010: The Year of The Citizen and Obama’s Moonbattery Year
Michelle Malkin: The Democrats’ Massachusetts meltdown and Seeing red: Graphic of the night — and a cautionary note for the GOP and SEIU president Andy Stern clings to the blame-GOP card and SEIU president Andy Stern clings to the blame-GOP card and Every Democrat leader needs to watch this video; Update: Now, Barney Frank says “Whoa, Nelly!” and Democrat Sen. Jim Webb on gov’t health care takeover: Whoa, Nelly! and The Twitter-meter: Just how upset are liberals about Massachusetts?; Update: Roger Ebert pouts and Massachusetts Miracle: Election night liveblog; Update: BROWN WINS, COAKLEY CONCEDES; Brown victory speech cheers: “41!41!41!”
Animal Farm: Baseball Blues… Coakley v Schilling
Boudica WPI: AP projects Scott Brown (R)
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LisainTX’s Blog: Coakley Croaks!! Scott Brown Wins Mass Senate Seat!!!! OMG!!!!!
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Temple of Mut: SUPER-VOLCANO erupts in MA! Dress in BROWN tomorrow in support! and One if by ACORN, Two if by SEIU!
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VotingFemale 
Is it any wonder why the lefties refer to us as:
Those so-called astro-turfing redneck illiterate racist tea-bagging racist selfish gun-toting racist bible-carrying small-minded terrorist Jihadist-hating anti-communism torture-loving townhall-ranting non-existent 912 DC rallying racist tobacco chewing carbon-dioxide spewing racist confederate-nazi troglodytes and neanderthals? Did I mention racist?
So what do you think of us now Barrack?
It is now time to Cleanse the Progressives from the Democrat and Republican Parties.
They are a Cancer to Our very Freedom.
Susan Collins was on Fox news… I wonder why? Hmmmmmm…
Sami,
You make me feel right at home… (sniff)
Scott Brown stated in his acceptance speech that our Tax dollars so go to buy weapons to defeat Terrorism not Lawyers to defend Terrorists.
This guy could be Presidential, imo
Not a good day to be a Progressive Democrat in America. Your eviction notice has been served!
“It is now time to Cleanse the Progressives from the Democrat and Republican Parties.”
Sami, I brought the Trashmen to help clean up. While we’re at it, let’s give them the bird!
I’ll have to be like Glenn on this one. I will wait and see what he does. He said some things last night that bugged me. I gave way too many kudos to Uncle Teddy. He was acting too much like a politician. On the other hand he did say things I liked. I just have to wait and see.
But, this is a speed bump to slow up the charge toward Socialism.
Foxwood says
Sami, I brought the Trashmen to help clean up. While we’re at it, let’s give them the bird!
Foxwood
America has given them the Bird! 🙂
Thank you Massachusetts! You did it again and the Second American Revolution has begun 🙂
Absolutely!
Down with Progressives! Power to the People
Legal Insurrection; it’s what’s for Victory!
samiam60 says
It is now time to Cleanse the Progressives from the Democrat and Republican Parties.
They are a Cancer to Our very Freedom.
Politicians are like lawyers… no one likes one till they need one.
That is why I said in this blogpost… “Go Do the People’s Work…Senator Brown”
He is a SERVANT of We the People… not a man to be served.
We will see if he remains a servant… and if he doesn’t? We will can his ass and get another one after setting an example of who is the master and who is the servant.
Notice I did not say it was a Brown Victory, I said it was Our Victory… the People’s Victory.
Foxwood says
I’ll have to be like Glenn on this one. I will wait and see what he does. He said some things last night that bugged me. I gave way too many kudos to Uncle Teddy. He was acting too much like a politician. On the other hand he did say things I liked. I just have to wait and see.
But, this is a speed bump to slow up the charge toward Socialism.
They fear, thus attack us at a personal level… and that tactic is now their Achilles Heal. They personally attack the Majority of America is now like a small boy throwing a rock at a Massive Freight Train… and WE HAVE THE POWER.
…the flea infested disease ridden gutter rat socialist trolls just got stomped on… and well will stomp them all.
samiam60 says
Is it any wonder why the lefties refer to us as:
Those so-called astro-turfing redneck illiterate racist tea-bagging racist selfish gun-toting racist bible-carrying small-minded terrorist Jihadist-hating anti-communism torture-loving townhall-ranting non-existent 912 DC rallying racist tobacco chewing carbon-dioxide spewing racist confederate-nazi troglodytes and neanderthals? Did I mention racist?
So what do you think of us now Barrack?
morning peeps! hey VF, did you have fun last night? We missed you at our cyber-celebration.
VF, I am glad you have woken with a level head. It is too easy to elevate Brown to royalty (now that he occupies a royal chair, haha) and glamorize and aggrandize him. He is only a man who ran a damn good campaign at the very right time in a country that is in a tailspin. He can’t stop it, but the people have spoken that they don’t want to add to the velocity. Unfortunately noone really is offering a way to stop it, at least not a way that will work.
VF said: He is a SERVANT of We the People… not a man to be served.
We wil see if he remains a servant… and if he doesn’t? We will can his ass and get another one after setting an example of who is the master and who is the servant.
Barry might as well dawn a Cardigan Sweater and start the (Carter) fireside chats again. Carter is now Barrack’s only challenger for Worst American President EVER!
foxy, the day we start electing legislators in the Senate that you support wholeheartedly is the day I start researching ways to emigrate to Cuba. hahaha
foxy said: I’ll have to be like Glenn on this one. I will wait and see what he does. He said some things last night that bugged me. I gave way too many kudos to Uncle Teddy. He was acting too much like a politician. On the other hand he did say things I liked. I just have to wait and see.
But, this is a speed bump to slow up the charge toward Socialism.
Good Morning USA!!!!
USA….USA….USA…..USA…..USA
VF
That was allot of WE WON’s on the other post—-LMAO—:-P
I would call it
MASS-IVE Progressive aka Communist Butt Kicking!!!
Good Morning Lisa, Rosehips 🙂
“Unfortunately noone really is offering a way to stop it, at least not a way that will work”
Democraps keep saying the Republicans offer nothing. That’s wrong. They have given lots of feedback that the Democraps don’t want to hear. When they say Republicans are the “just say no party” they are lying.
From Americans for Prosperity
“Consider Massachusetts. Before Mr. Brown’s victory last night no Republican Senate candidate in Massachusetts had won since 1972. The seat he was seeking had been held by Ted Kennedy for almost 50 years and the Kennedy family was on the campaign trail against him. All 10 congressional districts in Massachusetts are held by Democrats. In 2008, the congressional Democrat in Massachusetts with the lowest winning percentage was Barney Frank – and he won with 68%! Just 12% of voters in Massachusetts are registered Republicans.
But, Scott Brown did not win because voters suddenly love the Republican Party. He won not with a message of “Send more Republicans to Congress.” Instead, his most salient message was “send me to Washington to be the 41st vote against the health care takeover.”
The Democrats know this as well. On Sunday when President Obama campaigned with Ms. Coakley, neither of them said one word about health care — the issue on which the President has staked everything. They know that even in Massachusetts — the liberal bastion of the nation — their health care takeover has been rejected by a majority of the people.
Take a moment and congratulate yourself. You are making a difference for our nation.
Your tireless work, sacrifice and refusal to give up are paying off.
However, this health care battle is not over. Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid are already considering trying to jam the health care takeover through before Senator-elect Brown can be seated. We’ve got to keep the pressure on the Senate and House.
I know we’ve asked you to contact your Senators and member of Congress often. But right now we have momentum in a big way and we’ve got to use it. CLICK HERE to call your Senators and member of Congress today to tell them — “Listen to what the people are saying — just last night in Massachusetts. End this health care takeover NOW. Move on to addressing jobs and spending and getting our economy moving again.”
Oh… Forgive me…
Good morning Rose!
Good Morning Rose!
Never Canonize a politician until after they are deceased and then only on the basis of their beneficial accomplishments as opposed to their failures.
I refrain from any canonization of Ted Kennedy… ever. He does not deserve it.
The leftists stupidly and arrogantly elevated Obama to status of Messiah, an unknown unproven no experience Socialist Ideologist… and gave him a Nobel Peace Prize for no accomplishments at all… it was a fatal mistake… leftist elevation of a Jr US senator with only 2 years in the job is false god worshiping and it ruined the DEM party, perhaps for generations. The damage from that continues to multiply… and it is going to get a lot worse.
rosehips says
morning peeps! hey VF, did you have fun last night? We missed you at our cyber-celebration.
VF, I am glad you have woken with a level head. It is too easy to elevate Brown to royalty (now that he occupies a royal chair, haha) and glamorize and aggrandize him. He is only a man who ran a damn good campaign at the very right time in a country that is in a tailspin. He can’t stop it, but the people have spoken that they don’t want to add to the velocity. Unfortunately noone really is offering a way to stop it, at least not a way that will work.
VF said: He is a SERVANT of We the People… not a man to be served.
We wil see if he remains a servant… and if he doesn’t? We will can his ass and get another one after setting an example of who is the master and who is the servant.
Sami
I agree. You confirm what I remember my own dad saying!
“Mounting evidence, however, makes clear that poor people were principal victims of the New Deal. The evidence has been developed by dozens of economists — including two Nobel Prize winners — at Brown, Columbia, Princeton, Johns Hopkins, the University of California (Berkeley) and University of Chicago, among other universities.
New Deal programs were financed by tripling federal taxes from $1.6 billion in 1933 to $5.3 billion in 1940. Excise taxes, personal income taxes, inheritance taxes, corporate income taxes, holding company taxes and so-called “excess profits” taxes all went up.
Jim Powell, senior fellow at the Cato Institute, is author of FDR’s Folly, How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression (Crown Forum, 2003).
More by Jim Powell
The most important source of New Deal revenue were excise taxes levied on alcoholic beverages, cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft drinks, cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls, movie tickets, playing cards, electricity, radios — these and many other everyday things were subject to New Deal excise taxes, which meant that the New Deal was substantially financed by the middle class and poor people. Yes, to hear FDR’s “Fireside Chats,” one had to pay FDR excise taxes for a radio and electricity! A Treasury Department report acknowledged that excise taxes “often fell disproportionately on the less affluent.”
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357
Good morning Lisa!
VF says
I refrain from any canonization of Ted Kennedy… ever. He does not deserve it.
VF
Hahahaha, I think your State Cannon-ized the whole of the Progressive movement in America.
sami, and what monsterous event elevated him to this level? that he stumped for a candidate that lost? That he is losing support for health care reform? Clinton lost hc too.
Americans are losing faith in President Obama and the Dems because they put too much faith in them to begin with. They thought they could change things. They believed that most of the country would come together in kumbaya moments all over the nation, every day. Ha! How naive.
At least we have kumbaya moments here on this blog. At least they make me feel the same way. 😉
sami said: Barry might as well dawn a Cardigan Sweater and start the (Carter) fireside chats again. Carter is now Barrack’s only challenger for Worst American President EVER!
Correct on the New Deal, Lisa. What Obutthole offers is the ‘Raw Deal’.
Nobama plans to TAX us on the AIR we BREATH!!! Now THAT is something that even FDR didn’t do….how CORRUPT do these people get before we fight back with every inch of our American spirit?
Bye,Bye Progressives
May I cannon-ize Uncle Teddy?
Great minds, Sami!
Rose, Rosie,
Did not President Obama campaign on a Promise to bring Hope and Change to America?
It is the Progressive Movement that is the big loser today and President Obama just happens to be a big part of that movement.
Too bad he is too stupid to move Center.
and just to put a personal touch on my greeting, good morning sami, foxy, VF, lisa! Am I missing anyone?
Bet Barry’s Grey hair is now White!
sami, yes he did. and he has failed miserably. He underestimated the power of the radical right to sabotage his every action. so sad.
sami said: Did not President Obama campaign on a Promise to bring Hope and Change to America?
Newspapers now adorn the Oval Office (floor) as the Liar in chief has spend a Wee-weeded night there.
Rosie said
sami, yes he did. and he has failed miserably. He underestimated the power of the radical right to sabotage his every action. so sad.
Rosie,
He has had a majority vote and back room deals for over a year now. Well up until today that is.
I am a Texan living in Massachusetts… a common sense voter in a Blue State just Gone Red… Massachusetts woke up.
The Kennedys are and were a scurvy pack of blue-nosed elitists who’s fortune was made selling bootleg whiskey during prohibition.
That people in Massachusetts elevated them to the status of royalty is symptomatic of worship of false gods… bad idea.
samiam60 says
VF says
I refrain from any canonization of Ted Kennedy… ever. He does not deserve it.
VF
Hahahaha, I think your State Cannon-ized the whole of the Progressive movement in America.
Good Morning Lisa!
lisa, I would pay a tax on air if it would go to cleaning it up. but that should not be the gov’t’s job. We do not have a constitutional right to toxin free air do we? or do we?
I think it’s industries responsibility to keep the air we breathe breathable. How do we compel them to agree?
You would have done better to end your comment here Rosie.
sami, yes he did. and he has failed miserably.
OBama and his pack of rat bastard mzrxists were just put on notice… start looking for a new job, your days are numbered.
LisaInTX says
Nobama plans to TAX us on the AIR we BREATH!!! Now THAT is something that even FDR didn’t do….how CORRUPT do these people get before we fight back with every inch of our American spirit?
lol sami, what will happen to me now?
sami said: You would have done better to end your comment here Rosie.
sami, yes he did. and he has failed miserably.
“He underestimated the power of the radical right to sabotage his every action. so sad.”
It wasn’t radical right, unless you concider teabaggers radical. Hmmmm?
VF, Obama won’t have to look for work. I’m sure he’s negotiating a sweet deal right now, as we speak.
“We do not have a constitutional right to toxin free air do we? or do we?”
No.
This Mass Senate election changed the entire political landscape…
no longer are we the victims… we just struck back… and as quickly and divisively as the election laws allowed.
These Socialist Rat Bastards are now officially ON THE RUN… with WE the PEOPLE in hot close pursuit. We now use the persuasion of Power, not them.
LisaInTX says
Nobama plans to TAX us on the AIR we BREATH!!! Now THAT is something that even FDR didn’t do….how CORRUPT do these people get before we fight back with every inch of our American spirit?
Rosie says
lol sami, what will happen to me now?
Rosie
We will love you to pieces just like we always do.
You are the Wind Beneath our Feet:
Isn’t that a song?
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Teddy McFatty is Dead (RIP)
Long Live Scottie McHottie
I personally was moved by what Senator-elect Brown said about Teddy Kennedy. I actually got choked up. For a Republican, I find Brown a breath of fresh air, tax-free!
He will not get re-elected… thus he is forced to seek new employment after November 2, 2012. And if the arrogant bastard refused to cede power to the incoming president elect he will be arrested and put in jail.
rosehips says
VF, Obama won’t have to look for work. I’m sure he’s negotiating a sweet deal right now, as we speak.
“by what Senator-elect Brown said about Teddy Kennedy.”
That is one of the things that disturbed me.
thanks foxy, I just didn’t want to dig a hole for myself. I think an amendment guaranteeing us a right to clean air and water would be a good thingie.
foxy said: “We do not have a constitutional right to toxin free air do we? or do we?”
No.
“I think an amendment guaranteeing us a right to clean air and water would be a good thingie.”
If they would only do it that way. Me, I’m a pessimist (or was that masochist?).
He is in Massachusetts, not a traditional red state.
To show disrespect for Teddy would be equiv to showing disrespect to Curt Shilling. He will not pick a battle that is a zero sum gain. Every conservative in Massachusetts recognize it for what it is… pandering to the sensitivities of the losing party in Massachusetts.
Foxwood says
“by what Senator-elect Brown said about Teddy Kennedy.”
That is one of the things that disturbed me.
of course we have the clean air and clean water acts…attorneys best friends.
Foxwood says
“by what Senator-elect Brown said about Teddy Kennedy.”
That is one of the things that disturbed me.
Foxwood
I am hoping his comments were just an overture to the many Ted Kennedy supports and a Conservative Respect for a man who may have felt he was doing the right thing no matter how misguided he was.
That is what separates us from the Progressives
lol VF. Curt Shilling is a traitor. He named his first born after a Yankee legend!
VF said: To show disrespect for Teddy would be equiv to showing disrespect to Curt Shilling.
The only rights human have are the rights of natural law… those rights giving by the creator.
Anyone who thinks it is government that grants rights is a dreamer and a wisher.
Foxwood says
“I think an amendment guaranteeing us a right to clean air and water would be a good thingie.”
If they would only do it that way. Me, I’m a pessimist (or was that masochist?).
He had a creepy moment when he spoke about his daughters. He just didn’t sound quite right to me.
Browns acknowledgement of Ted Kennedy shows signs of a stateman and a guy who really might be able to reach across the aisle. Don’t dismiss a good thing because you think it is a sign of weakness, foxy.
Brown’s wife made him promise to run a clean, decent campaign and except for that cute smile he cracked after the curling iron comment from someone in the crowd, I think he did. Mrs. Brown might be the real force to be reckoned with from this election. We shall see.
“The only rights human have are the rights of natural law… those rights giving by the creator.
Anyone who thinks it is government that grants rights is a dreamer and a wisher.”
Oh, I know that. Just that things should not be forced on “we the people”. The Constitution has to be amended and not bastardized.
The man better keep his trouser worm in check.
I think I missed what he said about his daughters foxy. what’d he say?
I was agreeing with your response to Rose… who threw out a ringer lol
I know you know, dear.
Foxwood says
“The only rights human have are the rights of natural law… those rights giving by the creator.
Anyone who thinks it is government that grants rights is a dreamer and a wisher.”
Oh, I know that. Just that things should not be forced on “we the people”. The Constitution has to be amended and not bastardized.
VF, what the heck is a NYC actress singing the Star Spangled Banner in New England? Don’t you have any singers in Massachusetts they could use?
He joked about his daughters being available.
He said a few things that just didn’t hit me right. Maybe he was trangulating with Uncle Teddy. I think it would have been better to talk of JFK only, or say nothing at all.
Want us to throw him back and let Coakley take the oath of office? lol
just askin’
he gaffed… it was a failure at humor… and likely a family thing teasing his daughters who likely made a big deal out of making him promise not to embarrass them. It went over like a lead balloon and were I one of his daughters I would have kicked him in the shin as soon as he said it….
men…
Foxwood says
He had a creepy moment when he spoke about his daughters. He just didn’t sound quite right to me.
I don’t know where Larry is from, but maybe he should be the next singer at Gillette Statium.
‘Pants on the Ground’ Singer Larry Platt Offered Record Deal
62-year-old Larry Platt who claims his fame across the U.S. after auditioning “American Idol” in Atlanta has been offered a record deal by Jake Records. Thus, his self-written track “Pants on the Ground” which is currently sweeping the nation may be released sometime soon.
Vf
I agree about the elevation of the Kennedy’s, Camelot, etc….was WAY TOO much grandiose and misconceptions for mere public servants of We The People.
JFK had his faults for sure, but I feel strongly that he LOVED America and died for exposing the EVIL secret societies that even then were trying to take over our Nation. Teddy was not JFK….and would never be able to fill his shoes.
VF Says “The Kennedys are and were a scurvy pack of blue-nosed elitists who’s fortune was made selling bootleg whiskey during prohibition.
That people in Massachusetts elevated them to the status of royalty is symptomatic of worship of false gods… bad idea.”
Scott Brown’s daughter Ayla would have been a better choice… I agree.
rosehips says
VF, what the heck is a NYC actress singing the Star Spangled Banner in New England? Don’t you have any singers in Massachusetts they could use?
VF, a ringer? moi? hahaha
VF said: I was agreeing with your response to Rose… who threw out a ringer lol
There are reasons enough for Ayla Brown to be proud of his father. The American NCAA basketball player cum singer is also the daughter of WCVB-TV reporter Gail Huff. When her fans wished her luck for her father’s Senate race, Ayla Brown tweeted, “thank you guys for your kind words. as a family we are all so excited!” The 21-year-old daughter of Scott Brown was born in July 28, 1988. She was one of the top female basketball players in school and also have records in Massachusetts for scoring 2, 358. She secured sixth place for being a leading scorer (both male and female) in Massachusetts history. She is called the top female basketball player in Massachusetts. Ayla Brown was the captain of the Noble and Greenough School girl’s basketball team but, she had to miss the last few games for taking part in the fifth season of ‘American Idol’ where she was one amongst the top 24 contestants.
Ayla Brown is keeping busy these days with her new releases, live shows and of course Basketball tournaments. Ayla Brown’s live performance, an eight-minute video with The James Montgomery Blues Band and The Uptown Horns has been uploaded on You Tube. According to the video which included behind-the-scenes footage, Ayla Brown’s next release would be “Ayla Brown Live!” Her next studio album will be “Circles” which might release in April. She will also be participating in Boston College women’s basketball team. Life is going nice with this young lady with her new releases, sports and not to forget her father’s victory in the Senate race.
Scott named his daughter after a cave woman? Damn, I like that!
vf said: Scott Brown’s daughter Ayla would have been a better choice… I agree.
“Want us to throw him back and let Coakley take the oath of office? lol”
No! I’m just learning not to trust even the Republicans. If nothing else, Scott is a speedbump on the road to Socialism. He gives us time to get things right. No, I won’t throw out the baby with the bathwater on this one. I just want to see how he acts before I give the Foxwood stamp of approval.
chuckling… you remind me of… ME
hahahahahaha
rosehips says
VF, a ringer? moi? hahaha
VF said: I was agreeing with your response to Rose… who threw out a ringer lol
wow, that Ayla sounds like quite a catch for some lucky guy.
being a former unofficial legend in my own mind record-holder from NY State, I admire her basketball abilities. Since I can’t sing to save my life, I am in awe of her musical talent. I do think that as a captain of her team, she did not show total leadership by skipping games to audition for American Idol. I wonder if it affected the outcome of the games?
Rose
IMO–The carbon credit exchange that Gore and his buddies the Wealthy Corp OWNERS get, guarantee they will continue to POLLUTE our environment with their chemicals and that We The Little People will pay for their polluting. They are given a pass, and we get to pay for it….nothing right about that…
It is just like Nobama going after the CEO’s and demonizing them as ‘Fat Cats” all the while giving the WEALTHY BANKERS a pass…he has no intention of holding THEM accountable and use his attack on the ceo’s as a twisted form of justice.
rosehips // January 20, 2010 at 9:03 am
lisa, I would pay a tax on air if it would go to cleaning it up. but that should not be the gov’t’s job. We do not have a constitutional right to toxin free air do we? or do we?
I think it’s industries responsibility to keep the air we breathe breathable. How do we compel them to agree?
Same sentiments here, Foxwood.
I await his record and his behavior in Congress.
I am not a party hack… and will go after bums on both sides of the aisle.
I will also say getting him into office… Mass Voters put the FEAR OF GOD in all but the terminally Insane DEMs in Congress. and for good cause… none of them are guaranteed safety by virtue of the color of their state.
NONE OF THEM ARE SAFE NOW
THE PRECEDENCE HAS BEEN SET
MASS WAS THE BLUEST OF THE BLUE
Foxwood says
“Want us to throw him back and let Coakley take the oath of office? lol”
No! I’m just learning not to trust even the Republicans. If nothing else, Scott is a speedbump on the road to Socialism. He gives us time to get things right. No, I won’t throw out the baby with the bathwater on this one. I just want to see how he acts before I give the Foxwood stamp of approval.
BTW… I have to call and remind Mary Landrieu about the people of Louisiana’s seat.
BWAHOHOHAHAHAHAHAHA!
lisa, I know cap and trade is bogus. But taxpayers should not foot the bill for corporate pollution. That is why they will have to pay to pollute. It should be good for small industry that finds ways to cut emissions. They will profit from the big corporate polluters who will be able to buy off their crimes against the planet. It is far from a perfect system of controling damaging emissions.
lisa said: Rose
IMO–The carbon credit exchange that Gore and his buddies the Wealthy Corp OWNERS get, guarantee they will continue to POLLUTE our environment with their chemicals and that We The Little People will pay for their polluting
who are her Conservative Rivals? who would you pick, and why?
Merry Marvy Landrieu is washed up…
political road kill …not worth much except to make her life miserable until she is voted out of office.
Throw Scott Brown directly in her face in an overwhelming and daily basis. I would send a FAX every day to her FAX machines with Scott Brown’s Face on it and the words…
YOUR TURN IS COMING, BANK ON IT
Make her fear for her political life and give her hope if she turns around she may have a chance… then deny her that political life in the election, regardless.
It is time to throw the bums out on their asses.
That’s my take on it…
Foxwood says
BTW… I have to call and remind Mary Landrieu about the people of Louisiana’s seat.
BWAHOHOHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I can remember growing up in Cleveland,Ohio and that in the 60’s and 70’s the pollution from our Steel Mills was thick in the air. Now that was real air pollution and fortunately Clinton struck a deal and now all those jobs are in China and our air here is a lot cleaner for all our unemployed.
“That is why they will have to pay to pollute.”
They don’t pay to pollute, Rosey. They pass the cost on to the customer. That is why crap an trade won’t work. You can’t tax a corporation. It affects the customer. You can’t tax the rich. They don’t hire when you do.
I never liked JFK… didn’t trust him and in today’s world his private life behavior would have prevented him from running for office, imo.
His role in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion was reason to not reelect him had he lived to seek a second term. He betrayed the Cuban Freedom Fighters he swore to back up, then yanked the rug from under then at the last second causing most of them their lives and 60 years of Fidel Castro and communism in Cuba…
screw JFK
LisaInTX says
Vf
I agree about the elevation of the Kennedy’s, Camelot, etc….was WAY TOO much grandiose and misconceptions for mere public servants of We The People.
JFK had his faults for sure, but I feel strongly that he LOVED America and died for exposing the EVIL secret societies that even then were trying to take over our Nation. Teddy was not JFK….and would never be able to fill his shoes.
VF Says “The Kennedys are and were a scurvy pack of blue-nosed elitists who’s fortune was made selling bootleg whiskey during prohibition.
That people in Massachusetts elevated them to the status of royalty is symptomatic of worship of false gods… bad idea.”
I have been a Chevy guy all of my life but I have to say to everyone here that I hope your next car will be a Ford.
That’s right a Chevy guy promoting Ford. Lets really start buying American and turn this thing around for our Children and Grandchildren.
That’s all I have to say about Thhaatt.
Used pre-Obama Chevys are Ok… hahaha
Just Say No To Obama-Mobiles.
samiam60 says
I have been a Chevy guy all of my life but I have to say to everyone here that I hope your next car will be a Ford.
That’s right a Chevy guy promoting Ford. Lets really start buying American and turn this thing around for our Children and Grandchildren.
That’s all I have to say about Thhaatt.
Foxwood
I agree about being cautious of ALL candidates in BOTH parties from here on.
Brown should have stuck to the ideals of JFK only and not gotten sucked into Teddy’s long accomplishments of what we know to be a drive toward communism…
I also agree with Rosie and VF—Brown was being diplomatic in not slamming Teddy on the curb—it would have been petty and made him no better than those that use such tactics from the left.
LOL-at Axlerod saying that Brown ran a great campaign…..Did he? Or did Brown run as a REAL PERSON that LOVES his country and wants to help bring back traditional American Values and common sense sanity?
I hope and pray it is the LATTER….delusion is harder and harder to overcome these days.
Or maybe you should send a fax of Coakley with a bullet through her head with the words:
YOUR TURN IS COMING. LOCK YOUR DOORS. Hahahaha
VF said: Throw Scott Brown directly in her face in an overwhelming and daily basis. I would send a FAX every day to her FAX machines with Scott Brown’s Face on it and the words…
YOUR TURN IS COMING, BANK ON IT
Wouldn’t mind one of them Ford Fusion hybrids, but it seems Toyota still is dominant in the hybrid market.
sorry if the bullet through Coakleys head was offensive to anyone (as if). I am just trying to get foxy in trouble. teehee
where do you think industry gets their money? they cant print it like Obama. They have to earn it… additional costs are passed on to consumers.
tying pollution to party politics is a Socialist Game…
dealing with pollution MUST be bi-partisan… not a Progressive’s tool for political gain and personal wealth… case in point: Al Gore the WARMER for PROFIT and political Gain.
rosehips says
lisa, I know cap and trade is bogus. But taxpayers should not foot the bill for corporate pollution. That is why they will have to pay to pollute. It should be good for small industry that finds ways to cut emissions. They will profit from the big corporate polluters who will be able to buy off their crimes against the planet. It is far from a perfect system of controling damaging emissions.
my first car was a 66 Ford Falcon. One of my best cars was a 76 Chevy Nova.
sadly, some of my worst cars were American made as well.
Toyota Quality has deteriorated in recent years and they are running on their legacy. American’s are wising up across the board.
We the People will take back our Country in every area of it.
VF, the costs of pollution control gets passed on to the consumer, as it should be. We the consumers must insist that our products are made in the most environmentally sensitive way possible to protect our air and water, and ultimately our health. Do consumers do this? Of course not, the consumer is interested in the cheapest price possible. So what is the solution?
VF said: where do you think industry gets their money? they cant print it like Obama. They have to earn it… additional costs are passed on to consumers.
sami, were you a union man?
for Rosehips…
http://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/1409/ronald-reagan-environment
Ronald Reagan and the Environment
by Steven F. Hayward
inFocus
Fall 2009
There is an “absolute necessity of waging all-out war against the debauching of the environment… The bulldozer mentality of the past is a luxury we can no longer afford. Our roads and other public projects must be planned to prevent the destruction of scenic resources and to avoid needlessly upsetting the ecological balance.”
This probably sounds like Al Gore, Barbra Streisand, or Ralph Nader. In fact, these words were uttered by Governor Ronald Reagan. At the time, he was signing into law one of the most aggressive environmental protection statutes ever passed up to that point.
How can this be? Are we talking about the same Ronald Reagan who said trees cause pollution? The same Ronald Reagan who said “If you’ve seen one redwood you’ve seen ’em all”? The same Ronald Reagan who appointed a fundamentalist Christian (James Watt) to run the Department of the Interior, who famously said that it didn’t matter if we cut down every tree because Christ would then return?
Indeed, we are talking about the very same man.
Governor Reagan’s Redwoods
It never seems to matter to his critics that, as governor of California, Ronald Reagan set aside 145,000 acres of land for the state park system, a record to which, Reagan biographer Lou Cannon notes, “no other modern California governor has come close.” Never mind that Reagan’s steps toward acquiring redwood forests prepared the way for a large expansion of Redwood National Park after he left office, again leading Cannon to comment that “several of the taller, old-growth redwoods that are now stellar attractions in the nation park probably would have become desks or picnic tables had they not been saved in the Reagan years.”
Never mind, too, that James Watt never uttered any nonsense about being indifferent to nature because Jesus was coming soon. To the contrary, he avowed that anyone who said such a thing was unfit for public office. Environmentalists [Progressive Political Hacks] go on repeating this chestnut anyway.
Surprisingly, Reagan was essentially correct about trees and air pollution. Indeed, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has been quietly studying “biogenic” emissions for years now, noting that a few areas of the country probably can’t meet some Clean Air Act goals because of naturally-occurring sources of air pollution.
By the way, the “seen one redwood, seen ’em all” line is a misquote, too.
Reagan also established the Air Resources Board to battle California’s worst-in-the-nation smog problem, and the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency to address Lake Tahoe’s environmental challenges. More notable were his repeated and successful efforts to block the construction of two large dams—one on the Eel River and one on the Feather River—that would have inundated remote scenic areas of the state with water.
He also led an effort to block a major highway project that would have cut a four-lane highway through wilderness area in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Instead of building a mega-highway, Reagan enlarged and merged two existing wilderness areas, linking up the John Muir Trail and forever safeguarding the area from highways or other development. (Reagan inherited all of these major highway and dam projects from his predecessor, Governor Pat Brown, for whom a major conservation award in California is ironically named.)
In opposing the trans-Sierra highway, Reagan said, “We simply don’t need another highway,” noting that mountain wildlife “are becoming endangered and cannot tolerate any further human disturbance. Any additional motorized access through this part of the southern Sierra will have a major adverse impact on the fragile wilderness values we hold so dear.”
Wasted Money, Wasted Resources
Despite this impressive record (for which environmentalists at the time mostly gave Reagan public credit), the canard remains that Reagan was hostile to environmental values.
For example, in one of the few attempts to assess seriously Reagan’s whole environmental record, political scientist Jeffrey K. Stine wrote in a recent book that Reagan “never held conservation and environmental protection as causes to be championed” as governor of California. Stine states that, “Reagan often sided with environmentalists in their opposition to newly proposed projects, albeit for different reasons” (emphasis added).
This last phrase is the key to understanding much that is wrong with conventional environmental thought today. The tacit premise of Stine’s assertion is that the only legitimate reasons for environmental action are those provided by the organized environmental movement.
In fact, Reagan’s reasons were often sounder than those of conventional environmentalists. For example, Reagan opposed many public works projects in California because he thought they were wasteful spending or not cost-effective.
Conventional environmentalists today often act as though the only resource that is not scarce is taxpayer funds and private sector wealth, and regard cost-benefit analysis as anathema to the cause. Reagan, however, understood that if the government wastes money, either through spending or irrational bureaucratic regulation, the government is wasting resources.
In short, Reagan inherently understood what conventional environmentalists still don’t understand: Wasting money is environmentally counterproductive.
President Reagan
In the late 1970s, before Reagan became president, the importance of fiscally responsible conservationism seemed to have been more commonly acknowledged. Federal regulation was widely viewed as a substantial factor in the slow economic growth of the decade. After all, the 1970s saw more new federal regulation than the 40 years prior. Even the Carter Administration agreed with this assessment; acting on White House orders, the EPA delayed the adoption of several air pollution control standards because of their high cost.
This is the backdrop against which President Ronald Reagan’s environmental policies should be understood. When Reagan became president in 1981, his administration aimed to bring regulatory activity back into a proper economic balance. Numerous studies have shown that the regulations of the EPA (then only a 10-year-old agency) were among the most expensive in the federal bureaucracy.
This problem of EPA waste was especially acute with the Superfund toxic cleanup program that was enacted in haste by the lame duck Congress in 1980. The authors, who believed that it would clean up most toxic sites within two or three years, dumped the legislation on the lap of Reagan’s incoming EPA team, which bungled this ill-designed program, leading to the resignation of Reagan’s first EPA administrator. Due to protracted litigation and bureaucratic delay, it took the Superfund program more than a decade to begin showing significant progress.
It should be noted, however, that the Reagan EPA’s own initiatives were far more successful. For one, it accelerated the phase-out of lead from gasoline and introduced two other new clean air standards. Ambient levels of airborne lead fell 85 percent during the Reagan years—an achievement that environmentalists never acknowledged. Levels of all other major air pollutants (ozone, sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, and fine particulates) also fell during the Reagan years. In 1987 Reagan enthusiastically signed the Montreal Protocol that led to the global phase out of chlorofluorocarbons that erode stratospheric ozone. In his diary Reagan wrote, “This is an historic agreement.”
By far the greatest environmental controversy during the Reagan years came from the aforementioned Interior Secretary James Watt, who offended environmentalists by pushing for more mineral exploration and development on federal lands, a perennial favorite political football for the environmental movement. Watt also attracted criticism for imposing a moratorium on acquisition of more land for national parks and preserves. Ironically, environmental groups often criticize the federal government for mismanaging federal land—yet they demanded that the Reagan Administration acquire more land to mismanage.
The Watt controversies underscore the fact that the modern environmental movement has become wholly politicized. As Jeffrey Stine observed, “The Reagan Administration… helped to reenergize the environmental movement, giving it an enemy against which the major groups could rally their troops, thereby greatly expanding their membership and financial base and allowing them to become far more politically and legally active.” In 1981, the Sierra Club’s political director Doug Scott admitted, “If there hadn’t been a James Watt, we would have had to invent one.”
Ironically, despite the fact that Watt initially imposed a moratorium on new land acquisitions, by the time Reagan left office his administration had added 38 million acres to various categories of permanent protection (3.1 million acres of additional national park land, and 11.7 million to the National Wilderness Preservation System, for example), and nearly 5,000 miles to the National Wild and Scenic Rivers program and the National Estuarine Reserves.
Striking a Balance
In 1982, a consortium of the major environmental groups jointly issued an attack in the form of a report titled, Ronald Reagan and the Environment. They charged that, “the Administration’s environmental policies have harmed the nation, and that the harm grows steadily worse.” So ingrained was the environmentalist mantra and media echo chamber that it extended to his own family. In one diary entry, Reagan recounts a conversation with his son Ron: “A call from Ron. I don’t know who he’s been talking to but we had a debate. He’s convinced I’m not protecting the environment.”
Virtually none of the dire pronouncements of environmental deterioration under Reagan came to pass. Rather, most categories of pollution declined (and have continued to decline).
Reagan’s record stemmed from the fact that he understood the need to strike a balance. He liked to say that he was somewhere in the middle, between those who would pave over everything in the name of progress, and those who wouldn’t let you build anything unless it looked likes a bird’s nest.
Reagan’s philosophy on the environment probably describes the environmental views of most Americans, both then and now. It is this balanced view that is missing from the debates about the environment today.
Ya know there just ain’t nothin better than a can of Mary Kitchens Corned Beef Hash for Breakfast.
VF
You are sounding like a Neo-con??
This “prohibition” was nothing but government control over personal RIGHTS and Freedom that the government had NO Authority to restrict. …much like Marijuana….they WANTED the money for TAXES, thus made it illegal to make homemade hooch—now the drug lords own MUCH of our law enforcement and are getting wealthy of the black market….
And “Screw JFK”….lol…..when it was HE that publicly exposed the Secret Society of the shadow government and the federal reserve? WTF?
I’m personally stunned at your stance on this one?
JFK was NOT Ted Kennedy….he was not perfect either….I’ll have to research more on the Pig war….I have forgotten the details…:-/
VF says, “The Kennedys are and were a scurvy pack of blue-nosed elitists who’s fortune was made selling bootleg whiskey during prohibition.”
sami, and the people of China are prospering amidst deadly pollution. They are starting to wizen up though. Unfortanately, it is more costly to clean up than to spend money up front to prevent pollution. But what industry does that unless they are regulated to?
sami said: I can remember growing up in Cleveland,Ohio and that in the 60’s and 70’s the pollution from our Steel Mills was thick in the air. Now that was real air pollution and fortunately Clinton struck a deal and now all those jobs are in China and our air here is a lot cleaner for all our unemployed.
Oh BTW: It was JFK that acknowledge MLK Civil Rights Movement and HAD he lived, would have been the President credited for righting THAT wrong, not that shifty eyed texan LBJ….
Rose says
sami, were you a union man?
Rose,
I spent most of my life as a Sign Painter in the Sign Painters local union 639. I got involved in the Unions in the 70’s and soon found myself very upset with all the discrimination and corruption I found. I was also a Democrat back then and changed that in the 80’s.
I became a Reagan Republican and never looked back.
a case in point. Canada’s Teck Resources lead/zinc smelter dumped up to 60 million tons of slag into the Columbia River over a 100 year period. It mostly all flowed down into Washington State waters above the Grand Coulee Dam. Now Teck is cleaning up one beach just south of the border. It is a drop in the bucket, but they are spending a million dollars to remove the slag from the beach and replace it with clean sand. We are waiting for when the water levels rise again and wash the slag back up onto the beach. It is economically impossible to remove all the slag from the Upper Columbia. Our great river is contaminated and Teck Resources continues to prosper. Where is the justice?
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sami, the unions were/are a blessing and a curse. They have become too powerful and corrupt. We could build cars and products that were affordable to the average joe if wages weren’t so off scale with the average American worker. But I do support fair wages for workers and regulation for business so they don’t exploit the little man. I don’t oppose profits but do oppose exploitation.
I was very young when John F. Kennedy was President and remember feeling very inspired by him. Although too young to really know anything about him I feel he left a lasting impression on me.
History has revealed that he was not a very moral man at all but you know what. I believe our Government had him killed because he bucked the status quo. Had he lived I don’t believe there would have been a Viet Nam War.
Neoconservatism: a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to export liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries.
Lisa, JFK went along with the bay of pigs invasion… played a Major Role in making it happen. It was the act of a Neocon.
I believe in live and let live until the actions of another country, such as Iran, puts the National Security of the United States in Jeopardy.
What Obama is presently doing in Haiti goes beyond humanitarian… it is essentially…
An export liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries.
…a Military invasion of US Troops and US Money with the goal of building Haiti into a Nation which rooted in the American style, a goal that exceeds humanitarianism.
So… I reject the moniker of Neocon… and maintain my right to my opinions about the Kennedys and JFK… screw ’em.
And LBJ was a monstrous Crook… who made JFK look like a chior boy, imo.
LisaInTX says
VF
You are sounding like a Neo-con??
This “prohibition” was nothing but government control over personal RIGHTS and Freedom that the government had NO Authority to restrict. …much like Marijuana….they WANTED the money for TAXES, thus made it illegal to make homemade hooch—now the drug lords own MUCH of our law enforcement and are getting wealthy of the black market….
And “Screw JFK”….lol…..when it was HE that publicly exposed the Secret Society of the shadow government and the federal reserve? WTF?
I’m personally stunned at your stance on this one?
JFK was NOT Ted Kennedy….he was not perfect either….I’ll have to research more on the Pig war….I have forgotten the details…:-/
VF says, “The Kennedys are and were a scurvy pack of blue-nosed elitists who’s fortune was made selling bootleg whiskey during prohibition.”
Rose
As I understand it, They trade paper and do nothing to stop the pollution. That’s the charm of it….It’s a another shell game! They are NOT being regulated, they OWN the regulators and it’s the little people that want to compete with them, that they are keeping out of the competition.
It’s like I sell you a horse for a million dollars and you give me a check for a million dollars that I never cash. I then buy back that horse for two million dollars and then you hold my two million dollar check—this can go on for years…and does this make that horse REALLY worth a million or two dollars? lol That doesn’t even factor into the scenario…..
Rose says, lisa, I know cap and trade is bogus. But taxpayers should not foot the bill for corporate pollution. That is why they will have to pay to pollute.
Morning budski’s!
Check out this article-
http://www.naturalnews.com/027984_swine_flu_vaccines.html
Sami
Well SAID!!!!! And our government has been outsourcing American jobs ever since and now Americans wonder where all the jobs went??? They have “regulated” our jobs into non-existence and made Red China into a super power…..while our thriving nation is slowly becoming filled with ghost towns…
samiam60 // January 20, 2010 at 9:57 am
I can remember growing up in Cleveland,Ohio and that in the 60’s and 70’s the pollution from our Steel Mills was thick in the air. Now that was real air pollution and fortunately Clinton struck a deal and now all those jobs are in China and our air here is a lot cleaner for all our unemployed.
Weird! I don’t see my comment.
Here it is again, ‘Morning budski’s!
Check out this article’
http://www.naturalnews.com/027984_swine_flu_vaccines.html
JFK also believed in fewer taxes, VF. I don’t agree with everything he’s done, but I like sticking that one to the Democraps.
As for Reagan. I was a Boy Scout. I believe in caring for our planet. I don’t believe it’s governments role to make us do it. Teach it to the children and you don’t have to force them with government.
My comments aren’t showing up?
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M2,
did you change your email or IP address? just found your comments in the held for moderation folder which I promptly approved…
VF I put a link in my first comment and it says it is awaiting moderation?
Weird.
I don’t have an opinion on JFK because I’m pretty ignorant to his history other than the tax cutting and womanizing, however I heard that as a senator he voted against civil rights for blacks.
Today would be a good day to let some libs in here to share their feelings with us.
sami, on an urban environment index of the top 72 cities in the US, Cleveland was 70, only topped by Miami, and Detroit (#1). I can only imagine what the rates of asthma, bronchitis and other respiratory ailments is. If the manufacturers built their factories with sustainability in mind, they would make sure they are not killing their citizens.
sami said: I can remember growing up in Cleveland,Ohio and that in the 60’s and 70’s the pollution from our Steel Mills was thick in the air. Now that was real air pollution and fortunately Clinton struck a deal and now all those jobs are in China and our air here is a lot cleaner for all our unemployed.
I’ve always heard neo-cons are disaffected liberals primarily of Jewish heritage who parted with the democrats yet retained their liberal views on spending…
Hey VF, I did have to reset my router this morning… Maybe something happened there?
good morning m2! thanks for the link to the article on the swine flu hoax. Big Pharma wins again!
People I have a sore throat today. I hate sore throats and congestion!! Argh!!!
Sammy, here are a few choice comments from left wing loons…
Here’s a compilation of hissy fits from the left wing blogs, Dem politicians…
From comments at HuffPo:
•kellym33: Yay! The party of teabags and Michael Steele and Sarah Palin wins Ted Kennedy’s seat. Mass voted in someone who’s only platform is to be sure to say no along with the rest of the repubs. I didn’t really think it possible to dumb down such a large population of a pretty enlightened state, guess I was wrong.
•oneputtsteven: To all the libs who stayed home in protest. Now you’ve done it. It’s going to be like the scene in Ghostbusters when all the demons and ghosts get released except all the damage will be REAL and it WON”T be funny.
•dollbaby: Make no doubt that this is the gist of what happenend today: This guy was funded by the tea party lobbtist and republicans (secretly). This was a big money play to shut down healthcare and the democratic agenda by insurance companies and corporate America.
From the DUmmies:
•BluDemocratGirl: F*ck the GOP, Ignorant Teabagging Fools, and the Independent Voters who stood up with that pathietic, porn star-wannabe bastard. Mrs. Coakley’s campaign could’ve been stronger, but she ran it down to the drain. I’m pissed ’cause now the health care reform is now in jeopardy!
•Joe the Liberal: It absolutely sickens me… to see this solid blue state have some sleazeball, degenerate, scumbag filth republican as their “representative”. I’m even more sickened and disgusted to see Ted’s seat, that he held for decades on end go to this piece of garbage, cookie cutter, bottom feeding, dirtbag republican.
•Odin2005: Another STOLEN election.
•Akoto: Teddy must be rolling in his grave right now.
•DainBramaged: All of you RePUKElican lurkers can go f*ck yourselves one race. F*ck you.You have NO F*CKING ONE to run against Obama in 2012 so go f*ck yourselves.
•AndyA: If sanity is a right wing, bigoted, homophobic Nazi, well…yes I guess there will be sanity. Pretty faces often hide monsters within.
•TwixVoy: They are chanting like Nazis at his victory rally. Chilling. A glimpse of things to come.
From the Krazy Kos Kooks:
•eXtina: Coakley should be ashamed of herself for allowing Ted Kennedy’s seat to go to not just a Republican, but a teabagger for God’s sake. What a tragic, tragic, ending to his 50 year legacy.
•berkshireblue: So true…MA is an educated state if the campaign SB ran worked here what does this say for the rest of the country. The guy had a completely undistinguished and ineffectual record in the state senate-all of his jobs were in the public sector (thought Repugs HATED that), he ran on being a regular, good looking truck driving guy a la Bush. He didn’t pretend to be smart, a la Palin. That it worked in MA tells me a lot about the average voter and it ain’t pretty.
•maxnyc: what a disgrace after that f*cking four days of truly sad mourning for ted that these assholes–in MA and the white house allowed this to happen! im so happy he is not here to see his legacy trashed by the election of this scum
•fasteddie9318: The real loser here was the entire country But, given how we’ve all allowed the pitchfork-wielding idiocracy to take the country over in the past year, we deserve it.
Rosehips something just never “sounded right” with that swine flu, did it?
Im glad I didn’t get little E vaccinated…
How very strange is this:
Ireports have very few posts about the Brown Win.
In the most commented section they did garner a whopping 103 comments though.
Way to go Ireports. David dun banned the life out of your site.
yeah foxy, but who is gonna teach them? How many kids are scouts? Parents won’t teach kids because they don’t know the facts. So who teaches them? We could hope that non profits and churches and the like can educate citizens, adults and children, but how effective is that? I dunno.
foxy said: As for Reagan. I was a Boy Scout. I believe in caring for our planet. I don’t believe it’s governments role to make us do it. Teach it to the children and you don’t have to force them with government.
Thank you VF for a host of Liberal rants that only serves to prove us right. They are in denial and will go down with the Socialist Ship Obama.
loved the liberal rants VF!
VF
Sorta like what the US is and has done in Iraq? We have paved the way for Rich banksters and Rich Investors to FORCE those people to bow to OUR leadership and that of our Allies.
Demonizing ALL Muslims is what? I call it a religious war….being implemented by the Zionist Jews for their benefit.
Iran with nukes? Hmmmm….and how did Israel get nukes? Seems that ideal was BLOCKED under JFK, but after he is murdered they attained them nonetheless….
It all goes back to MY belief, the USA should NOT police the world…that we are doing this against what our constitution states is nothing more than that as JFK stated, the shadow government powers HAVE gained control of our military and is using them for their benefit.
“Neoconservatism: a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to export liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries.”
Speaking of Swine Flu, we are still under a state of emergency. I wonder why?
Should it not be canceled? Hmmmm?
What do Obama have up Michele’s sleeve.
m2, the swine flu was a little different from the reg flu but it was way overhyped. I have much experience with the pressures of refusing to vaccinate. Especially when vaccines have thimeresol (sp?) in them, I would refuse. Vaccines can have side effects and can cause death. They do not give total immunity like the flu usually gives you. I am glad I didn’t get the flu because it really sounds like it was brutal. I know at least one guy who ended up in the hospital, but I already told you that.
•maxnyc: what a disgrace after that f*cking four days of truly sad mourning for ted that these assholes–in MA and the white house allowed this to happen! im so happy he is not here to see his legacy trashed by the election of this scum
maxnyc,
We are glad he is not here also.
M2,
that the router needed to be reset may have resulted from your ISP spawning a new IP address for you.
Your computer’s IP Address is a closed network address in the 192. . . range which is not seen on the internet… just the IP address the router uses to communicate via the ISP.
neither of my kids was vaccinated as children. I took a little flack for that, but generally people are tolerant. Luckily they have never been pulled out of school because of an epidemic. Jonah could still face that in college if there is an epidemic of measles or someother childhood disease.
I’m not even sure if he got a h1n1 vaccination. He was thinking about it when he went to school in the Fall but he never mentioned getting it.
love this one. his name says it all!
DainBramaged: All of you RePUKElican lurkers can go f*ck yourselves one race. F*ck you.You have NO F*CKING ONE to run against Obama in 2012 so go f*ck yourselves.
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I know some of the ppl vaccinated got that neurological disease that cripples you!
Don’t forget, it was central governmental agency WHO and other government that was half of the benefactor, besides Pharma.
That’s why I believe Obama has brought us a more dangerous landscape of Corporate Socialism and tyranny…
Ugh I feel ill, I’ll talk to you all later!!!
I could have a field day over at the other network today.
Naw, it is not worth my time.
dang, gotta do some stuff. it’s been fun peeps!
Vf
Those commie rants are Precious indeed!!! LMAO…..I feel for them with the latest recall of Tylenol and Rolaids—-guess they’ll just have to eat their own to help sooth the savage beast….HAHAHAHAHA
you have a right to your opinions, I have the same right as we all do.
I consider it a dead discussion. It’s like arguing about the badness of war…
war is bad, no argument… war is also necessary, unfortunately
and no one ever said the US is not rife with corruptness… in fact, it is… but it beats the hell out of Communism which is also rife with corruption.
LisaInTX says
VF
Sorta like what the US is and has done in Iraq? We have paved the way for Rich banksters and Rich Investors to FORCE those people to bow to OUR leadership and that of our Allies.
Demonizing ALL Muslims is what? I call it a religious war….being implemented by the Zionist Jews for their benefit.
Iran with nukes? Hmmmm….and how did Israel get nukes? Seems that ideal was BLOCKED under JFK, but after he is murdered they attained them nonetheless….
It all goes back to MY belief, the USA should NOT police the world…that we are doing this against what our constitution states is nothing more than that as JFK stated, the shadow government powers HAVE gained control of our military and is using them for their benefit.
“Neoconservatism: a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to export liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries.”
one more thing before I go. I noticed that metals took a dive today and stocks are plummeting. hmmm…things are feeling shaky. What to do?
Stocks Pummeled on Big Bank Earnings Day as China Weighs- Reuters
U.S. stocks sank Wednesday as quarterly results from three large U.S. banks increased uneasiness about the state of financial companies and on reports of bank lending restrictions in China.
Rose
IMO–Natural Law comes from the teachings in the Bible…..which has been outlawed now
in public….
It used to be handed down in family units….reinforced by our teachers and neighborhoods, and it CAN be again—but it can NEVER be forced by the government, otherwise it becomes nothing but tyranny and leads to human suffering….
rosehips // January 20, 2010 at 10:55 am
yeah foxy, but who is gonna teach them? How many kids are scouts? Parents won’t teach kids because they don’t know the facts. So who teaches them? We could hope that non profits and churches and the like can educate citizens, adults and children, but how effective is that? I dunno.
foxy said: As for Reagan. I was a Boy Scout. I believe in caring for our planet. I don’t believe it’s governments role to make us do it. Teach it to the children and you don’t have to force them with government.
Lisa says
Rose
IMO–Natural Law comes from the teachings in the Bible…..which has been outlawed now
in public….
It used to be handed down in family units….reinforced by our teachers and neighborhoods, and it CAN be again—but it can NEVER be forced by the government, otherwise it becomes nothing but tyranny and leads to human suffering….
Lisa,
That is a great point you are making here. Almost a forgotten fact as to how American came to Greatness. Thank you
The Market hates the unknown… the election of Brown and it’s affects on future governmental policies that have been factored in to the stock market is a very predictable response… it is Market Jitters… the market hates change and loves stability… thus big investors get out of the market or sell short on a major, or perceived major, change.
The Socialist Agenda was just put into major jeopardy… plus the housing market is down big.
rosehips says
one more thing before I go. I noticed that metals took a dive today and stocks are plummeting. hmmm…things are feeling shaky. What to do?
Stocks Pummeled on Big Bank Earnings Day as China Weighs- Reuters
U.S. stocks sank Wednesday as quarterly results from three large U.S. banks increased uneasiness about the state of financial companies and on reports of bank lending restrictions in China.
I think the run up of the stock market yesterday was short selling banking on a anticipated drop today as the market jitters sets in…
normal behavior for the market in view of the change in the political landscape…. this is suddenly a new world.
Natural law just like the law of physics existed long before there was a bible…
show me any human being in their right mind on the planet regardless of their religion or non-religion who does not agree that they have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness… that those are rights granted by virtue of being a human being.
And the bible has no more been “outlawed in public” than the Qu’ran or any other fundamental religion’s founding document/s.
But public schools are no more the place to instruct people in Christianity or Islam or Buddhism or any other religion…. nor is it the place to teach Socialism which has new taken on the aura of a religion in itself with Obama as it’s messiah. GAG
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VF
I agree. We obviously differ on the idealism of JFK…..I would like to continue this topic another time, what say you??
That he was from a line of illegal hooch makers and runners (A precursor to NASCAR racing) , a womanizer (like many men aren’t now?) and may have messed up in Cuba according to you, does not make him a total loser IMO….”throw the baby out with the bath water”
When I see a man stand up and publicly denounce the corruption and secret societies in our society, I just ADMIRE the HELL outta of that type of courage!
VotingFemale // January 20, 2010 at 11:13 am
you have a right to your opinions, I have the same right as we all do.
I consider it a dead discussion. It’s like arguing about the badness of war…
war is bad, no argument… war is also necessary, unfortunately
and no one ever said the US is not rife with corruptness… in fact, it is… but it beats the hell out of Communism which is also rife with corruption.
I get a big kick out of those baby commie pinko commenters as well!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
too damn funny!
LisaInTX says
Vf
Those commie rants are Precious indeed!!! LMAO…..I feel for them with the latest recall of Tylenol and Rolaids—-guess they’ll just have to eat their own to help sooth the savage beast….HAHAHAHAHA
“But what industry does that unless they are regulated to?”
Regulation brings on Communism… Teach the children to not pollute.
He wasn’t all bad… but I condemn him mostly on the basis of his sell-out of the US backed, JFK backed, invasion force of the Bay of Pigs… it was a very seriously back stabbing crappy shitty thing to do… the fucker dithered… after he made the decision and the invasion was put into motion… had your son or father been left hanging out to dry in harms way by JFK who promised air and sea support to protect them then yanked it back at the last minute, I wager you would agree with me. HE WAS A DITHERER
once someone pisses you off… every other negative factor gets heaped on them as well…
and yes, at another time and place, I am willing to hear arguments which absolve him essentially of causing the death of the Cuban resistance fighters’ invasion force…
LisaInTX says
VF
I agree. We obviously differ on the idealism of JFK…..I would like to continue this topic another time, what say you??
That he was from a line of illegal hooch makers and runners (A precursor to NASCAR racing) , a womanizer (like many men aren’t now?) and may have messed up in Cuba according to you, does not make him a total loser IMO….”throw the baby out with the bath water”
When I see a man stand up and publicly denounce the corruption and secret societies in our society, I just ADMIRE the HELL outta of that type of courage!
brb… DVR buffer just started showing Scott Brown’s press conference and questions…
“yeah foxy, but who is gonna teach them? How many kids are scouts? Parents won’t teach kids because they don’t know the facts. So who teaches them? We could hope that non profits and churches and the like can educate citizens, adults and children, but how effective is that? I dunno.
foxy said: As for Reagan. I was a Boy Scout. I believe in caring for our planet. I don’t believe it’s governments role to make us do it. Teach it to the children and you don’t have to force them with government.”
Oh, Rosey… I guess we just allow Communism and the government do it…
VF
Natural Law was “coined” by Thomas Jefferson and it was agreed by the majority of those individuals who signed our Declaration of Independence.
As to “teaching” religion in public school….I did not say that, but teaching the NATURAL LAW is a whole different ideal and is BOUND in ALL things that are a part of our Nation and what made it great.
Vf
The Bible is being demonized and ALL that talk of its wisdom.
It has been determined illegal, not only because of the LIE of the “wall” of Separation of Church and state, but by the removal of the Ten Commandments and others Biblical references in many “Federal buildings”….
Teachers CAN reinforce the teachings of the Ten Commandments—-they are handed down from thousands of years of trial and error and our LAWS are from this source.
Natural Law is mainly the ideology of , what is good for Nature is good for mankind.
You poison nature, you poison mankind. You care for the animals and they will take care of you. Unless its a fat cat named Cubby….then he wants it all…hahahaha
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A good site for Jefferson Quotes:
“The evidence of [the] natural right [of expatriation], like that of our right to life, liberty, the use of our faculties, the pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble and sophistical investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense of every man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of Kings.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Manners, 1817. ME 15:124
“The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.” –Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. ME 1:211, Papers 1:135
“Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law,’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.” –Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819.
http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0100.htm
“Perfect happiness, I believe, was never intended by the Deity to be the lot of one of his creatures in this world; but that he has very much put in our power the nearness of our approaches to it, is what I as steadfastly believe.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Page, 1763. ME 4:10, Papers 1:10
“The freedom and happiness of man… [are] the sole objects of all legitimate government.” –Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1810. ME 12:369
“[It is a] great truth that industry, commerce and security are the surest roads to the happiness and prosperity of [a] people.” –Thomas Jefferson to Francisco Chiappe, 1789. Papers 15:405
(Secure it for OUR NATION, he does not talk of using our Armed forces to secure it for OTHER Nations—-and one that I agree with 100%—this eliminates corruption of arm deals on the side and the take over of FOREIGN INTERESTS and the GREED that comes with them!)
“The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it.” –Thomas Jefferson to M. van der Kemp, 1812. ME 13:135
Just saw this quote by LBJ on a blog about copying and pasting to the web. haha
Quotes
“Only two things are necessary to keep one’s wife happy. One is to let her think she is having her own way – and the other is to let her have it.”
– Lyndon B. Johnson
To all of you pinko Commie libs crying in your pissy beer, or elitist wine (or should I say whine)…
Uncle Teddy is dead. Hallelujah! Uncle Teddy’s legacy is dead! And the congregation said Amen! Eat your excrement sandwich and like it, just like you tried to make me do. FU you pieces of CRAP!
Your indoctrinated pea brains are examples of what is wrong with this country. The Progressives (Communists) have been trying to take over this country for over a hundred years. The blue state of Massachusetts realizes this now and has awakened. In your ignorance, you fail to see the rest of the country knows what is happening.
So, which is your reality? Your too stupid from your indoctrination, or are you a Commie hack still trying to pick off the indoctrinated rubes to pick up your cause?
Your on the losing end of a monster and this monster is going to chew you up and sh!t you out, because that what you are. CRAP!
FU and have a nice day 🙂
Okay—guess I’ll go do chores….nuff of TJ….damn I just LOVE that MAN….!!!
Off to pursuit my Natural Laws of happiness and liberty…heeee
my response to LBJ?
“Only two things are necessary to keep me happy. A guy who wants to make me happy (ie giving me my way) and my willingness to allow him to.” heehee
Who said the more you eat the more you crap?
gotta get back to work…
foxy said: Your on the losing end of a monster and this monster is going to chew you up and sh!t you out, because that what you are. CRAP!
I agree what everything you said and that the term was coined by Jefferson… and a rose by any name smells as sweet…
LisaInTX says
VF
Natural Law was “coined” by Thomas Jefferson and it was agreed by the majority of those individuals who signed our Declaration of Independence.
As to “teaching” religion in public school….I did not say that, but teaching the NATURAL LAW is a whole different ideal and is BOUND in ALL things that are a part of our Nation and what made it great.
Rosie….remember this one! I do….40 years later and I still remember that silly owl…hahaha
Here is another one that I remember! POWERFUL!!
Rose
LMAO—You Tell’em girlfriend!!! hahaha
rosehips // January 20, 2010 at 12:30 pm
my response to LBJ?
“Only two things are necessary to keep me happy. A guy who wants to make me happy (ie giving me my way) and my willingness to allow him to.” heehee
Keep America Beautiful is RIGHT ON!
Taxing everyday Americans for Carbon Credits and emitting Carbon Dioxide is INSANE and is nothing but BOGUS COMMIE CONTROL!
UNBIASED and REAL POLLUTION REGULATION against those WEALTHY OWNED Companies that USE our laws as a mockery is what is needed.
It is those companies that pollute our fresh water and soil the worst, not the everyday American.
How the hell did we get so far off the track of doing what is Natural Law? ???
The radicals have taken the truth and twisted it to protect these polluters of our nation…..TIME FOR CHANGE!
It is being demonized by marxist/progressive political operatives for political reasons.
that assault needs to be stopped in its tracks and due respect for religion restored…
the problem is one of ideology on the left and right.
in all fairness, government is obliged to be secular and not aggressive to religions.
That said.. theocratic creep of Islam into government must be dealt with… due to the aggressive and dangerous nature of the radical purveyors of that religion… if Christianity were to be turned into what Islam has been turned into that too would necessitate the application of common sense controls.
LisaInTX says
Vf
The Bible is being demonized and ALL that talk of its wisdom.
Cap and Trade died Jan. 19, 2010… just as ObamaCare did. I see no upside for the Progressives in Congress to continue to push a bad bill rejected by the majority of Americans… in view of yesterday’s election. It was a game changer…
Obama will either be forced to move to the middle or suffer the consequences. He is denied a rubber stamping Congress now. His reason for arrogance, deleted.
The valid common sense wisdom from the writings of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism transcends faith or non-faith in the supreme being.
I also think it is wired within human DNA to believe in the existence of a greater power… the universal supreme being or beings.
Humans did not create the universe… yet here it is.
I choose to have faith in God and Jesus as his Son.
I choose to allow that others have their faiths …until there is a faith-based collision which harms humankind.
Islam is the scourge of the Earth… and must be reformed… just as many of the outdated applications of the Old and New Testaments of the Bible have been disabled in modern day practice.
This is not 700AD… it is 2010 AD… most of humanity has moved on… Muslims are still stuck in many circa 700 AD teachings of Islam that have no tolerable applications today…. and that has to change, one way or the other.
VF
Well Said girlfriend. 😛
Mankind did not create our universe, but it has created our society. Good and Evil resides within mankind. As I see it, the side that reveals itself is the one you feed the most.
VotingFemale // January 20, 2010 at 1:02 pm
The valid common sense wisdom from the writings of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism transcends faith or non-faith in the supreme being.
I also think it is wired within human DNA to believe in the existence of a greater power… the universal supreme being or beings.
Humans did not create the universe… yet here it is.
SamHenry is baaaaaaaaaaack for a minute. Trying to get stuff done so that I am not up until midnight and then have to turn around and get up at 4:00 AM to make a 7:00 AM flight from the Emerald City to Mesopotamia – a place that is messin’ with pot! Just kidding folks. I can’t smoke – ANYTHING.
I’m so pure, I float! Hi VF, RoseHenry and Lisa.
GREAT victory blogpost from the heart, VF.
I agree 100% with you stance on Islam and the Koran. It must be watched. That whole religion came out of the oven too soon and is making everyone sick.
Keep America Beautiful. Repeal -( not as mask – a legal action) Nancy Pelosi.
Uncle Teddy to Marsh Coakley:
I’d give you advice, but I’m too dizzy from spinning.
VF
I personally do not know much about the Muslim faith. The Extremist that wish us harm need to be stopped NO DOUBT about that—-as to the rest that practice this “religion”—if they were not in agreement of those radical’s, they should be standing and being accounted AGAINST such extremists and should also be teaching their youth AGAINST such extremes.
That they are not in most cases from what I’ve heard and read, gives me pause about even having them within our country—this does not make me feel good inside to think this way because I believe we all should have freedom to believe as we want—so if they are expelled or FORCED to change, who would be next? Atheist? Satanist? Devil worshipers?
How do we as a Nation maintain the Natural Law when these types of people do not and will not follow them?
Islam does not work in a democracy?
I really don’t know what the answer is to this problem…
VotingFemale // January 20, 2010 at 1:11 pm
I choose to have faith in God and Jesus as his Son.
I choose to allow that others have their faiths …until there is a faith-based collision which harms humankind.
Islam is the scourge of the Earth… and must be reformed… just as many of the outdated applications of the Old and New Testaments of the Bible have been disabled in modern day practice.
This is not 700AD… it is 2010 AD… most of humanity has moved on… Muslims are still stuck in many circa 700 AD teachings of Islam that have no tolerable applications today…. and that has to change, one way or the other.
Obutthole is a complete and utter failure.
WB SamHenry and thank you for your comment about the blogpost… this was a victory, absolutely, and the effects of it are shaking the very foundation of the Progressives to the core.
The Majority of Americans are not buying the Progressive Koolaid and that fact, my fellow Massachusetts voters and I proved yesterday… it was push back time… and the Progressives fell on their ass.
4:00 am flight? ugh…. with the new TSA bullcrap you might be required to arrive by 1am so they can check the contents of your bra and bloomers. lol
He is indeed… a fallen self-imagined man-god pompous moonbat asshat.
F. Him !! HA
Foxwood says
Obutthole is a complete and utter failure.
VF
Don’t forget the EPA…..Nobama just found a backdoor to get what he wanted…..I figure they have already found one for their Healthscare bill too.
VotingFemale // January 20, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Cap and Trade died Jan. 19, 2010… just as ObamaCare did.
This is just so delicious, VF, and the koolaid drinkers have lost their last marble. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hi SH!!
I saw where you were heading out on a trip…hope you have a great time honey!
LOL at the repeal of NP—-that hagster gotta go!!!
SH says “Keep America Beautiful. Repeal -( not as mask – a legal action) Nancy Pelosi.
Rush got his wish; Obama Failed… to deliver his Fundamental Transformation of America.
Weapons formed against his Ideology did, in fact, prosper.
The Weapons? Basic common sense and independence of the Average American who pushes back against Tyranny…
See? there is absolutely nothing ‘average’ about Americans in this regard, relative to citizens of other countries.
I hope the British citizens grow some balls and follow our lead and stop being meek sheep who are worker bee prostitutes for their pimp socialist government. The French… let em hook for their government lol
We now have to follow through with the rest of the ass kicking on Jan 2, 2010… no mercy.
Foxwood says
Obutthole is a complete and utter failure.
Foxie
That’s a GOOD ONE!! HAHAHAHA
Foxwood says
Uncle Teddy to Marsh Coakley:
I’d give you advice, but I’m too dizzy from spinning.
Here are the Dem’s today…LOL
He will still try to use back doors, given his radical ideology… but any damage will be transitory… because it is not based in legislation, rather interpretation of legislation.
OBama and his gang of rat bastards were hit with a 2X4 yesterday… a gift that keeps on giving, that 41st vote.
What ever they do against the will of the Majority of Americans will be punished at the hands of voters. IT is human nature to survive and not even Nancy Pelosi from lala land California is safe.
Most California voters actually have common sense… just like most Massachusetts voters.
What the Socialists do to further their radical marxist infiltration into the government will be paid back in spades.
Let them try… go ahead… make my day…
LisaInTX says
VF
Don’t forget the EPA…..Nobama just found a backdoor to get what he wanted…..I figure they have already found one for their Healthscare bill too.
VotingFemale says
Cap and Trade died Jan. 19, 2010… just as ObamaCare did.
“That’s a GOOD ONE!! HAHAHAHA”
I have to give El Rushbo credit for it. 🙂
VF
Right now we need TEAMS upon TEAMS of attorneys to go in and STOP this Council of Governors that Nobama had unleashed and his Exec order granting Immunity to the FOREIGN INTERPOL.
These are the most recent TREASONOUS acts that I can think of right now that are without any doubt represent a direct CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to our nation AND STATE RIGHTS.
The tenants of Islam is fundamentally opposed to democratic self-governance…
“To Submit” (to the will of God) written down in the Qu’ran forbids democratic self-governance.
Though I am not an expert, I made it a point to study the Qu’ran and get a sense of what it teaches. At it’s very core is absolute obedience and submission in all things to the will of God.
And that don’t float in modern day societies… that the US is the undisputed world power and purveyor of Democracy sets up the US as the Great Satan and to their teaching is contrary to the Will of God.
That the Progressive/Marxist seize upon Islam/Muslims as as victims of America can be understood. No tool against conservative democracy shall go unused… every means is justified by their progressive/marxist ends… that of world domination and rule be the progressive/marxist elites.
Were they ever to achieve that they would descend on Islam and Muslims like the Wrath of God himself and destroy them all in a blinding flash… such is their utter hypocrisy. They would likely round up enough millions of them into a single country and nuke the whole place… as an example to the rest to play ball and bow to them.
the persuasion of power…
Lisa says
That they are not in most cases from what I’ve heard and read, gives me pause about even having them within our country—this does not make me feel good inside to think this way because I believe we all should have freedom to believe as we want—so if they are expelled or FORCED to change, who would be next? Atheist? Satanist? Devil worshipers?
How do we as a Nation maintain the Natural Law when these types of people do not and will not follow them?
Islam does not work in a democracy?
iver his Fundamental Transformation of America.
Weapons formed against his Ideology did, in fact, prosper.
The Weapons? Basic common sense and independence of the Average American who pushes back against Tyranny…
See? there is absolutely nothing ‘average’ about Americans in this regard, relative to citizens of other countries.
I hope the British citizens grow some balls and follow our lead and stop being meek sheep who are worker bee prostitutes for their pimp socialist government. The French… let em hook for their government lol
We now have to follow through with the rest of the ass kicking on Jan 2, 2010… no mercy.
Also….more need to understand the Bill HR 45…and HOW this could affect STATE RIGHTS and our 2nd amendment rights…..
The shutdown/bullying tactics by the communist Federalis at the Austin, TX gun and knife show this past weekend is an OUTRAGE of EXTREME Measures!
“The shutdown/bullying tactics by the communist Federalis at the Austin, TX gun and knife show this past weekend is an OUTRAGE of EXTREME Measures!”
WHAT! More info, please!
Here Foxie—Still have not heard ONE WORD from PERRY and this happened in our STATE CAPITAL!
http://lisaintx.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/2nd-amendment-violation-by-feds-in-austin-tx-wtf-perry-where-the-hell-are-you/
The literal meaning of the word Islam is surrender of one’s will.
That is to say, losing one self-determination for the sake of God and surrendering one’s own pleasure for the pleasure of God.
This fundamental tenant of Islam was issued by Muhammad 1, 400 years ago who said an angel told him to do it.
The Qu’ran contains an absolute no edit mandate to prevent it from ever being updated or changed.
I read Obama’s executive order on this and it specifies 5 democrat governors and 5 republican governors…
and no where is there a power that I can find that allows the president to direct activities of governors to being Federal Government workers answerable in that capacity to the President.
I believe it violates the sovereignty of States and State Law. We shall see how that stunt by Obama plays out going forward.
As a conservative Governor appointed to such a Federal Job, I would tell Obama to stuff it up his marxist/progressive ass.
LisaInTX says
VF
Right now we need TEAMS upon TEAMS of attorneys to go in and STOP this Council of Governors that Nobama had unleashed and his Exec order granting Immunity to the FOREIGN INTERPOL.
These are the most recent TREASONOUS acts that I can think of right now that are without any doubt represent a direct CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to our nation AND STATE RIGHTS.
I left you a comment on it Lisa!
Hey, y’all – looks like the fallout from last night’s rout is just hitting:
TSA nominee withdraws amid ‘political agenda’
By Editor Wednesday, January 20, 2010
WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Security Administration withdrew his name Wednesday, a setback for an administration still trying to explain how a man could attempt to blow up a commercial airliner on Christmas Day.
Erroll Southers said he was pulling out because his nomination had become a lightning rod for those with a political agenda. Obama had tapped Southers, a top official with the Los Angeles Airport Police Department, to lead the TSA in September but his confirmation has been blocked by Republican Sen. Jim DeMint, who says he was worried that Southers would allow TSA employees to have collective bargaining rights.
In an e-mail to friends and colleagues, Southers said, “It is unfortunate that we are residing in such contentious political times, that exceptional, ‘apolitical’ candidates have to seriously consider their willingness to participate in public service.”
source for the above:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/19185
I heard about that SamH… the real problem was he is a federal law breaker and he lied to congress about it… that broke his back… but he wont talk about that one…
VF
Yeah….It states that HE will appoint these so called “Governors” of his choosing…
They will be 10 Czars to govern us ALL.
” The bipartisan Council will be composed of ten State Governors who will be selected by the President to serve two year terms. In selecting the Governors to the Council, the White House will solicit input from Governors and Governors’ associations. Once chosen, the Council will have no more than five members from the same party and represent the Nation as a whole.
Federal members of the Council include the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, the Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and Americas’ Security Affairs, the U.S. Northern Command Commander, the Commandant of the Coast Guard, and the Chief of the National Guard Bureau. The Secretary of Defense will designate an Executive Director for the Council.”
http://lisaintx.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/obamas-council-of-governors-congress-granted-federal-power-to-control-us-on-a-local-and-state-level/
VotingFemale // January 20, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I read Obama’s executive order on this and it specifies 5 democrat governors and 5 republican governors…
a lot of what Obama has pulled with appointments and other behaviors was predicated on arrogance of extended unilateral unstoppable control of the government by him and his gang of congressional rat bastards…
reality smacked him square in the face yesterday… his time and powers are limited by the determination of Americans to cancel his job status at the earliest possible moment… and his rat bastard buddies in congress too…
Okay–gotta run for a while—bbl
Fox, I’ll check your comment when I can get back online—son needs online–lol
see you later Lisa
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VF – you have said:
This fundamental tenant of Islam was issued by Muhammad 1, 400 years ago who said an angel told him to do it.
The Qu’ran contains an absolute no edit mandate to prevent it from ever being updated or changed.
OK – so the Angel made him do it, eh? It is a lot like the Biblical:
Blessed are those who have seen and believed; more blessed are those who have not seen and who yet believe.
Now who can argue with a turn of phrase like that? It’s like a “U” turn on a dead end street – there is a way out. I hate it when God writes these things.
What is all the talk about Obama and governors? Tell me where to go read about it. I scrolled back but could not find it. He really cannot be left alone. I think he and Barney Frank spend too much time behind closed doors working – probably on each other, lol.
OK – I picked it up on Lisa’s blog.
Good grief but we have had a slow erosion of our rights since 9/11
Have to get some stuff done
DOG OVERBOARD
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Glenn Beck…….T- 5 minute’s.
you are all gonna get a kick out of this…
hahahahaha
VF
I agree and will add that Our Nation already has 50 Governors….we DO NOT need 10 more hand picked by this RADICAL Foreigner where he is granting these 10 rights OVER our own individually Elected State Representatives!
I say again, we NEED TEAMS upon TEAMS of attorneys FIGHTING to REVOKE this bullshit before it is too late to stop it!!
VotingFemale // January 20, 2010 at 2:48 pm
a lot of what Obama has pulled with appointments and other behaviors was predicated on arrogance of extended unilateral unstoppable control of the government by him and his gang of congressional rat bastards…
reality smacked him square in the face yesterday… his time and powers are limited by the determination of Americans to cancel his job status at the earliest possible moment… and his rat bastard buddies in congress too…
VF, heard today that Warren Buffet made a negative statement about Obama and Obama’s “bank tax”- which caused the market to go down….
Buffet used to be in Obama’s camp too.
VF said:
I think the run up of the stock market yesterday was short selling banking on a anticipated drop today as the market jitters sets in…
Editorial Exegesis
“It was — for the second time in Massachusetts history — the shot heard round the world, or at the very least from coast to coast and surely in the halls of Congress. Scott Brown won this one fair and square with his down-to-earth charm, his hard work and his forthright position on issues — and with the help of that much-disparaged by the opposition pick-up truck. But it is also true that Brown was the right candidate at the right time with the right message. And it’s that message that the White House and congressional Democrats can no longer ignore. After all, if the people of Massachusetts can send a Republican to the U.S. Senate to fill the seat Ted Kennedy had a lock on for 47 years, then the revolution has indeed begun. And like that battle in Concord more than two centuries ago, this is only the opening round. Her fellow Democrats will attempt to blame the loss entirely on Martha Coakley, her inability to connect with voters, her verbal blunders and on assuming her primary victory was all she needed. Much of that is true, but it is also true that Coakley promised to be simply more of the same. And voters here are tired of more of the same. They don’t see the point of an expensive new health care bill that threatens to damage the health care industry here, disrupt service to Medicare recipients and tax us all — especially when we already insure 97.4 percent of our people. They don’t see the point of paying higher and higher energy costs, when the world’s pollution is not our fault. They don’t see the point of growing the deficit so that our children and grandchildren will be paying for today’s policy mistakes — including a $787 stimulus bill that didn’t. Most of all they are simply tired of the kind of Washington arrogance that says ‘don’t worry, we know what’s best for you.’ Voters of Massachusetts wanted to take back the power that has been so sorely abused. Yesterday they did.” –Boston Herald
Upright
“It really is the people’s seat, and yesterday the people took it back.” –columnist Jeff Jacoby
“Voters in the often wayward Cradle of Liberty looked danger in the eye, stood up, and said, ‘Enough.’ Tuesday’s takeaway is this: if Obama & Co. can’t sell their agenda there, it’s an epic fail everywhere.” –columnist Tom Blumer
“[Scott Brown’s] message of lower taxes, smaller government and fiscal responsibility clearly resonated with independent-minded voters in Massachusetts who were looking for a solution to decades of failed Democrat leadership.” –RNC Chairman Michael Steele
“Democrats are settling on a new strategy to blame the defeat not only on Coakley’s inept campaign but also on her personality and strained relations with both the Kennedy family and President Obama.” –columnist Byron York
“[Nancy] Pelosi met with House Democrats yesterday to tell them how the negotiations on a compromise health care bill between the House and Senate were going. As she spoke, one Democratic member whispered to another, ‘It’s like talking about your date on Friday, but the date’s in the emergency room.’ ObamaCare went into the emergency room in Massachusetts and didn’t make it out alive.” –columnist Fred Barnes
“[T]the American people are losing confidence in Team Obama because quite simply they are tiring of being lied to, and treated like children in need of Ivy-League Platonic guardians.” –columnist Victor Davis Hanson
“Obama was supposed to be a great persuader. It turns out that’s only half true. He did persuade most of us that he should be president. But in Year One, he has failed to persuade most of us to support his major proposals. He’s even moved us in the other direction.” –political analyst Michael Barone
“Increasing numbers of Americans are saying that they are having trouble recognizing the country in which they were born and grew up. They will have even more trouble recognizing America if the Washington juggernaut does not lose a substantial part of its power in this year’s elections.” –economist Thomas Sowell
The Wise Sayings of Master Barack: “We can’t win them all.” –Barack Obama (Memo to Obama: Please keep campaigning for other Democrats.)
Black Tuesday? “If you are looking for an analogy for a Republican victory in Massachusetts, the best one for Democrats may well be the stock market crash of 1929. … [Y]ou could have Democrats jumping out windows and off roofs.” –Roll Call’s Stu Rothenberg
Unhinged: “It’s that rare election where voters know exactly what they’re voting on. If they’re with Democrat Martha Coakley they get health care reform. If they go for Republican Scott Brown it’s deliberate, premeditated murder for health care!” –MSNBC’s Chris Matthews
Despicable: “I wanted to apologize for calling Senator-elect Scott Brown an ‘irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, tea bagging, supporter of violence against women and against politicians with whom he disagrees.’ I’m sorry, I left out the word ‘sexist.'” –MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann
Time to worry: “You have top Democrats like Barney Frank of Massachusetts who said flatly if Martha Coakley, the Democrat, loses, health care is dead. So what kind of planning is the White House doing right now for backup? What’s their Plan B?” –ABC’s George Stephanopoulos
Nothing tragic about that: “[It would be] a tragedy of Greek proportions if Ted Kennedy’s successor … is the one who was responsible for the death of health care.” –PBS’s Judy Woodruff
“Televangelist Pat Robertson said the earthquake in Haiti happened because they were cursed. He says when they were a French colony, they made a pact with the devil to get rid of the French. Pat, please! You don’t need a pact with the devil to beat the French.” –comedian Jay Leno
“The Cambridge Chronicle reports that the union representing policemen in the college town near Boston has endorsed Scott Brown for Senate. This is especially amusing because Martha Coakley has intimate ties to the Cambridge police: ‘Ms. Coakley along with some of her campaign workers have talked publicly about how her husband is a retired Cambridge Police Officer, giving appearances that she is being endorsed by the Cambridge Police,’ the endorsement reads in part. President Obama did not say whether he thinks the Cambridge police acted stupidly.” –Wall Street Journal columnist James Taranto
“Democrats regularly say things that would end the career of any conservative who said them. And still, blacks give 90 percent of their votes to the Democrats. Reid apologized to President Obama, and Obama accepted the apology using his ‘white voice.’ So now all is forgiven. Clinton also called Obama to apologize, but ended up asking him to bring everybody some coffee. Now the only people waiting for an apology are the American people who want an apology from Nevada for giving us Harry Reid.” –columnist Ann Coulter
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Free seminar on the Constitution.
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I love it Lisa!
Olbermann? why he is the proof of Socialist Loonacy… the poster child of Marxist Trolls everywhere.
I wouldn’t take him off the air if I was paid to do it! The idiot does more damage to the left than Rush and Glenn most days.
I am going to miss this plane. I can’t stop blog posting and bashing Barack. It is much too much fun. The man is going down in flames and doesn’t smell or see the smoke.
Hmmm… Turns out there is no man caused global warming or climate change or what ever the F they call it now. It’s all made up. Here’s some more Global Warming Bullsh!t.
From:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/20/panels-glacier-disaster-claims-melting-away/
U.N. Panel’s Glacier-Disaster Claims Melting Away
By Gene J. Koprowski
– FOXNews.com
The world’s most famous climate change expert is in the midst of a massive controversy, as the leading environmental science institute he heads scrambled to explain data it promulgated for a U.N. report.
A satellite image of the Koettlitz Glacer in Antarctica. An oft-cited report by the U.N.’s IPCC panel that the Himalayan glaciers will melt by 2035 may soon be retracted.
The world’s most famous climate change expert is at the center of a massive controversy as the leading environmental science institute he heads scrambled to explain its assertion that the Himalayan glaciers will melt completely in 25 years.
Rajendra Pachauri, head of the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and director general of the Energy and Resources Institute (TERI) in New Dehli, India, said this week that the U.N. body was studying how its 2007 report to the United Nations derived information that led to its famous conclusion: that the glaciers will melt by 2035.
Today, the IPCC issued a statement offering regret for the poorly vetted statements. “The Chair, Vice-Chairs, and Co-chairs of the IPCC regret the poor application of well-established IPCC procedures,” the statement says, though it goes short of issuing a full retraction or reprinting the report.
Pachauri told Reuters on Monday that the group was looking into the issue, and planned to “take a position on it in the next two or three days.”
The IPCC’s 2007 report, simply titled AR4, claimed that “glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world, and if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate.”
Contacted by FoxNews.com at TERI, officials would not respond to a request for additional comment. IPCC is expected to withdraw the report’s claim eventually.
Hundreds of millions of people in India, Pakistan and China would be severely affected if the glaciers were actually to melt. There are some 9,500 Himalayan glaciers.
Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh questioned the findings of the 2007 report during a news conference.
“They are indeed receding and the rate is cause for great concern,” Ramesh said of the glaciers. But, he said, the IPCC’s 2035 forecast was “not based on an iota of scientific evidence.”
One of the key elements in the growing scandal is the revelation that IPCC based some of its public proclamations on non-peer reviewed reports.
“The data, all the data, needs to come to light,” says Dr. Jane M. Orient, president of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness and an outspoken skeptic on climate change.
“Thousands of scientists are capable of assessing it. The only reason to keep it hidden, locked in the clutches of the elite few, is that it decisively disproves their computer models and shows that their draconian emission controls are based on nothing except a lust for power, control and profit.”
The IPCC “made a clear and obvious error when it stated that Himalayan glaciers would be gone by 2035,” added Patrick J. Michaels, a senior fellow in environmental policy at the libertarian Cato Institute, in an interview.
“The absurdity was obvious to anyone who had studied the scientific literature. This was not an honest mistake. IPCC had been warned about it for a year by many scientists.”
A letter just released to the Science Web site underscores the mistake. Written by J. Graham Cogley of the department of geography at Canada’s Trent University, it points out that “the claim that Himalayan glaciers may disappear by 2035 … conflicts with knowledge of glacier-climate relationships, and is wrong.”
The dustup is the latest scandal in global warming science, coming after the disclosure of attempts to shade climate-science research findings at the U.K.’s East Anglia University and the failed talks in Copenhagen by environmental policymakers last month.
The IPCC report had indicated that the total area of Himalayan glaciers would shrink from 500,000 square kilometers to 100,000 square kilometers within 25 years. The study cited a 2005 report by the World Wildlife Fund, an environmental advocacy group. The WWF study cited a 1999 article in New Scientist magazine that quoted another expert, who speculated that Himalayan glaciers could disappear within forty years.
The speculative comments were not peer reviewed, and other reports have indicated that the glaciers are not retreating abnormally.
“Most Himalayan glaciers are hundreds of feet thick and could not melt fast enough to vanish by 2035. The maximum rate of decline in thickness seen in glaciers at the moment is two to three feet per year, and most are far lower,” Don Easterbrook, a professor emeritus of the department of geology at Western Washington University, told FoxNews.com.
Pachauri, the IPCC chief, is under attack on another front, as well, as newspaper reports in India have commented repeatedly on his reportedly lavish lifestyle. TERI receives funding from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Energy, both of which did not respond to requests for comment from FoxNews.com. Reports indicate that there also are concerns in the United Kingdom surrounding 10 million British pounds in funding for TERI, and questions about TERI’s objectivity.
“It’s about time that somebody started following the money trail to the big interests that want to prosper from the green regime, while the rest of the economy is crushed,” Orient told FoxNews.com. “It’s not as though the amount were a trickle.”
So the moral of the story kiddies, it’s ok to be a big, rich businessman or woman and pollute till your hearts content.
oh oh is keith a little bit perterbed by the election result? I wonder how much coverage Olberman gave Scott while he was on the campaign trail? Was Keith out there warning us about the evils of this “irresponsible, racist, homophobic, sexist, ex nude model teabagger”? I don’t get msnbc, so I dunno.
SmallDeadAnimals.com has a good bit on the false claims of global garbage:
The Sound of Settled Science
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013168.html
It’s all just a way to get Global Communism, SamH.
SamH, You best get on that plane!
And don’t forget to make a BIG carbon footprint!
Vf
Glad to add a twinkle to your eye…heeeee
Some of those were too dang funny not to share…hahahaa
SH
Don’t you dare mess up your vacation plans by missing your flight woman!!!!
Fox
LOL—-All I can say is that It Must be Bush’s fault!!! Hahahaha
Rose
Obie seems to have lost his lite-saber…..bet Bush stole it!! HAHAHA
I gotta log off—we have rain/hail/lightening and possible tornadoes near us….
See Y’all later…
Duck and cover, Lisa!
That video is hilarious, VF!
I just can’t leave the computer….and my family who live in it….
OMG I have to go to the Pharmacy to get my meds. Can’t go anywhere without them. If I do – well this will happen within hours:
A complete system shutdown. There is not an area of my being that is not under review and on meds. Every function has a corresponding pill. Seriously folks, can’t breathe without my inhaler, can’t eat without those pills that keep GURD under control, can’t sing and dance and be happy without my anti-depressants, and that’s just the morning group! LOL I go along with my pills in my bag making that nestled pills rattling sound singing: I’ve got spurs that jingle jangle jingle as I go riding merrily along. I sing that so people can’t hear the pills and if they do, they will think they are my spurs. To make it look even more real I keep yelling “Buttermilk, Buttermilk – ah, well, I’ll have to call Dale and Roy and ask them where they left Buttermilk for me.
I wish I was in Tampa!!!!!
Better git your med and catch that plane, SamH!
You know we’ll be here when you get back and missing you the whole time. But you got a schedule.
I can’t think of Tampa Bay without the thought of feminine hygiene items filling the bay.
Hi M2 – I’ll get on the plane.
FOX – Now you’ve gone and done it. You’ve ruined Tampa Box bay for me. lol
Good Eveneing everyone! What a victory last night! The scalded socialist rats will be jumping off of Obama’s sinking socialist ship in droves. We have to keep them on the run. Let’s finish the job in 2010 and clean house in Congress. The illegal Kenyan president still doesn’t get it. I think the stupid dense motherf*cker will get it after November 2010. His agenda is dead! dead! dead! He just doesn’t know it yet.
U.N. Panel’s Glacier-Disaster Claims Melting Away
By Gene J. Koprowski
– FOXNews.com
The world’s most famous climate change expert is in the midst of a massive controversy, as the leading environmental science institute he heads scrambled to explain data it promulgated for a U.N. report.
Rajendra Pachauri, head of the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and director general of the Energy and Resources Institute (TERI) in New Dehli, India, said this week that the U.N. body was studying how its 2007 report to the United Nations derived information that led to its famous conclusion: that the glaciers will melt by 2035.
Today, the IPCC issued a statement offering regret for the poorly vetted statements. “The Chair, Vice-Chairs, and Co-chairs of the IPCC regret the poor application of well-established IPCC procedures,” the statement says, though it goes short of issuing a full retraction or reprinting the report.
Pachauri told Reuters on Monday that the group was looking into the issue, and planned to “take a position on it in the next two or three days.”
The IPCC’s 2007 report, simply titled AR4, claimed that “glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world, and if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate.”
related links
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Pollution May Be Melting the Himalayas
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30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says
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Glaciers Shrinking Three Times Faster Than in 70s
Contacted by FoxNews.com at TERI, officials would not respond to a request for additional comment. IPCC is expected to withdraw the report’s claim eventually.
Hundreds of millions of people in India, Pakistan and China would be severely affected if the glaciers were actually to melt. There are some 9,500 Himalayan glaciers.
Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh questioned the findings of the 2007 report during a news conference.
“They are indeed receding and the rate is cause for great concern,” Ramesh said of the glaciers. But, he said, the IPCC’s 2035 forecast was “not based on an iota of scientific evidence.”
One of the key elements in the growing scandal is the revelation that IPCC based some of its public proclamations on non-peer reviewed reports.
“The data, all the data, needs to come to light,” says Dr. Jane M. Orient, president of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness and an outspoken skeptic on climate change.
“Thousands of scientists are capable of assessing it. The only reason to keep it hidden, locked in the clutches of the elite few, is that it decisively disproves their computer models and shows that their draconian emission controls are based on nothing except a lust for power, control and profit.”
The IPCC “made a clear and obvious error when it stated that Himalayan glaciers would be gone by 2035,” added Patrick J. Michaels, a senior fellow in environmental policy at the libertarian Cato Institute, in an interview.
“The absurdity was obvious to anyone who had studied the scientific literature. This was not an honest mistake. IPCC had been warned about it for a year by many scientists.”
A letter just released to the Science Web site underscores the mistake. Written by J. Graham Cogley of the department of geography at Canada’s Trent University, it points out that “the claim that Himalayan glaciers may disappear by 2035 … conflicts with knowledge of glacier-climate relationships, and is wrong.”
The dustup is the latest scandal in global warming science, coming after the disclosure of attempts to shade climate-science research findings at the U.K.’s East Anglia University and the failed talks in Copenhagen by environmental policymakers last month.
The IPCC report had indicated that the total area of Himalayan glaciers would shrink from 500,000 square kilometers to 100,000 square kilometers within 25 years. The study cited a 2005 report by the World Wildlife Fund, an environmental advocacy group. The WWF study cited a 1999 article in New Scientist magazine that quoted another expert, who speculated that Himalayan glaciers could disappear within forty years.
The speculative comments were not peer reviewed, and other reports have indicated that the glaciers are not retreating abnormally.
“Most Himalayan glaciers are hundreds of feet thick and could not melt fast enough to vanish by 2035. The maximum rate of decline in thickness seen in glaciers at the moment is two to three feet per year, and most are far lower,” Don Easterbrook, a professor emeritus of the department of geology at Western Washington University, told FoxNews.com.
Pachauri, the IPCC chief, is under attack on another front, as well, as newspaper reports in India have commented repeatedly on his reportedly lavish lifestyle. TERI receives funding from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Energy, both of which did not respond to requests for comment from FoxNews.com. Reports indicate that there also are concerns in the United Kingdom surrounding 10 million British pounds in funding for TERI, and questions about TERI’s objectivity.
“It’s about time that somebody started following the money trail to the big interests that want to prosper from the green regime, while the rest of the economy is crushed,” Orient told FoxNews.com. “It’s not as though the amount were a trickle.”
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/20/panels-glacier-disaster-claims-melting-away/
Fox
The storm has passed…it was wild for awhile, but the tornado went NE of us…..everything A-ok here….:-p
damn, the news is all bad.
20, 000 people a day are dying in Haiti. It’s heartbreaking.
Congress seems to be collapsing. The dems are deflated and anxiety must be skyrocketing. It’s bad. Health care reform is dead. Long live health care reform.
SH, I hope you have a fun-filled time in Tampa. Say hi to kinky for me. 🙂
lisa, I can’t even watch that woman although I did see the first 19 mins. But I don’t want to hear about the ulterior motives for helping the desperately needy.
haha, 19 secs that is. I’m not a masochist. lol
Anderson Cooper just showed a classroom in Haiti that was hit hard in the earthquake. I don’t know how many were killed, but they showed the chalkboard with the date of the quake and some math problems and then a quote:
“May God receive us with open arms.”
Not sure if it was written before or after the quake. Wow!
I am going to change the channel. It’s too hard.
Rose
I totally understand. I feel for those people too, and agree if folks can afford to send money to help them and want to do that, God Bless them tenfold.
BUT, IMO—what Obama is doing is NOT helping them out of the goodness of his heart—-he does nothing that does not further his Marxist agenda!
The UN “Forgave” their debt not long ago as we discussed—-then BAM—earthquake on ONE half of that island…the part that OWED them allot of money.
UN Thinks the world is overpopulated—presto, depopulation, PLUS, they get MILLIONS of OUR tax dollars pouring into their coffers to pay on the debt they first forgave…..call me suspicious to say the least!
Nobama granted temp citizenship to what 45,000 ILLEGAL Haitians already living here? Add that to the thousands pouring in now and you have instant Dem voters living on our Tax Dollars of which the American people can not even afford for themselves much less thousand upon thousands of people who have never paid any money into our programs……this is pure communism and against what our constitution was created for.
The Entitlement programs are NOT part of the grand plan, but I can even deal with that to an extent IF given to AMERICANS that pay into those programs and ARE American citizens—when they are NOT, That tends to PISS ME the F—Off!
Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!
This Dictatorship is going down!
Good Morning Foxwood!
It’s a brave new day!
American are reminded that the Socialists are heedlessly ignoring those whom they represent in Congress… thumbing their suicidal noses a mulit-million pachyderm march of rampaging democratic, independent, and conservative voters charging at full speed at Capital Hill…
The political suicide of the Marxist Elites will be a riveting spectacle…
VF, I believe I can see a light at the end of the tunnel.
They were defeated on Jan 19, 2010.
Their denial of that fact will make the spectacle of their refusal to believe it… result in self-inflicted enhanced torture.
2010, a year that will live in History.
Now we know that Global “Change”, “Warming”, what ever they call it now, it a freaking hoax, F-ing Bullsh!t.
Let’s stop the premise. It’s a lie. Carbon Crap. The earth is not warming due to anything man is doing.
We have the lies in the emails, and now the lies from yesterday. They made up the numbers to pass an agenda. So stop it.
“Well, we lied about the numbers, but the earth is still warming.” Bullsh!t. You can’t prove it and that’s why you fudged the numbers, fudgepackers.
DNA tests have confirmed John Edwards as the father of baby Frances.
Congress finds out I don’t like their excrement sandwich. So now they want me to try just a little piece?
What about NO do you not understand?
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100121/D9DC3FF00.html
From The Times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6994774.ece
January 21, 2010
UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning
Jeremy Page, South Asia Correspondent
The UN’s top climate change body has issued an unprecedented apology over its flawed prediction that Himalayan glaciers were likely to disappear by 2035.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said yesterday that the prediction in its landmark 2007 report was “poorly substantiated” and resulted from a lapse in standards. “In drafting the paragraph in question the clear and well-established standards of evidence, required by the IPCC procedures, were not applied properly,” the panel said. “The chair, vice-chair and co-chairs of the IPCC regret the poor application of IPCC procedures in this instance.”
The stunning admission is certain to embolden critics of the panel, already under fire over a separate scandal involving hacked e-mails last year.
The 2007 report, which won the panel the Nobel Peace Prize, said that the probability of Himalayan glaciers “disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high”. It caused shock in Asia, where about two billion people depend on meltwater from Himalayan glaciers for their fresh water supplies during the dry seasons.
It emerged last week that the prediction was based not on a consensus among climate change experts but on a media interview with a single Indian glaciologist in 1999. That scientist, Syed Hasnain, has now told The Times that he never made such a specific forecast in his interview with the New Scientist magazine.
“I have not made any prediction on date as I am not an astrologer but I did say they were shrinking fast,” he said. “I have never written 2035 in any of my research papers or reports.” Professor Hasnain works for The Energy and Resources Institute (TERI) in Delhi, which is headed by Rajendra Pachauri, head of the climate change panel.
Dr Pachauri has defended the panel’s work, while trying to distance himself from Professor Hasnain by saying that the latter was not working at the institute in 1999: “We slipped up on one number, I don’t think it takes anything away from the overwhelming scientific evidence of what’s happening with the climate of this Earth.”
Professor Hasnain confirmed that he had given an interview to Fred Pearce, of New Scientist, when he was still working for Jawaharlal Nehru University in 1999. “I said that small glaciers in the eastern and central Himalaya are declining at an alarming rate and in the next 40-50 years they may lose substantial mass,” he said. “That means they will shrink in area and mass. To which the journalist has assigned a date and reported it in his own way.” Mr Pearce was not immediately available for comment.
Despite the controversy, the IPCC said that it stood by its overall conclusions about glacier loss this century in big mountain ranges including the Himalayas. “This conclusion is robust, appropriate, and entirely consistent with the underlying science and the broader IPCC assessment,” it said.
The scandal threatens to undermine the panel’s credibility as it begins the marathon process of drafting its Fifth Assessment Reports, which are due out in 2013-14. Georg Kaser, a leading Austrian glaciologist who contributed to the 2007 report, described the glacier mistake as huge and said that he had warned colleagues about it months before publication.
The error is also now being exploited by climate sceptics, many of whom are convinced that stolen e-mail exchanges last year revealed a conspiracy to exaggerate the evidence supporting global warming.
Jairam Ramesh, the Indian Environment Minister, said on Tuesday the scandal vindicated his position that there was no proof that Himalayan glaciers were melting abnormally fast. “The IPCC claim that glaciers will vanish by 2035 was not based on an iota of scientific evidence,” he said.
Monitoring Himalayan glaciers is extremely difficult because most of them lie in some of the most inhospitable terrain in the word at an altitude of more than 5,000 metres (16,000ft).
Most studies until now have therefore been based necessarily on a mixture of outdated and incomplete data, satellite imagery, photography, and anecdotal evidence.
Last year, however, TERI launched a project to install high-tech sensors on three glaciers which it will use as benchmarks to assess the situation across the Himalayas.
Professor Hasnain, who is running the project, said that he would soon be presenting a report on the status of Himalayan glaciers, based on research works by Indian and international scientists published in different peer reviewed journals across the world.
He hopes that these studies will help to produce more incontrovertible evidence that the Himalayan glaciers are under threat. In the short term, however, it seems they will do little to convince climate change sceptics, or to repair the image of the IPCC.
Good Morning my Fellow Patriots 🙂
It is a wonderful new day. There is no man made Global Warming, there will be no new Cap and Trade, and the Health Care Abortion the Democrats tried to ram through is Dead, Dead, Dead.
Now People with some Common Sense can put together a Health Bill that will Truly help all Americans and not destroy our jobs nor economy.
We won’t be hearing much from the liar in chief for a while because he has his hands full defending himself from his own Rabid Progressive Democrat associates, allies, friends, and Chicago Thugs.
It must be Lonely at the Bottom eh Barrack?
Still believe in Santa Clause and the toothfarie? How about Climate Crap?
“It’s about time that somebody started following the money trail to the big interests that want to prosper from the green regime, while the rest of the economy is crushed,” Orient told FoxNews.com. “It’s not as though the amount were a trickle.”
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/20/panels-glacier-disaster-claims-melting-away/
Morning Sami!
Someone sleep in this morning? 🙂
Good Morning Foxwood and VF.
YES. in a rare state of affairs I did in fact find it difficult to wake up this morning.
It is good to be above ground another day 🙂
I’m gonna have to put more powder in the cannon. Just not loud enough!
I hope Mary Landrieu wakes up. I gave her a rash of sh!t yesterday!
Hail to the Chief can now be replaced with this song. Changing one word in the song to America makes it a perfect song for one Barrack Obama.
The Hoax perpetuated by the Global Warmers is falling apart on a daily basis… their window of opportunity came and left 10 years ago.
Hoaxenhagen collapse was unavoidable… Climate-Gate continues to expand… lies are uncovered and reported daily.
Al Gore has been ridiculed off the public stage.
And Scott Brown absolutely kills Cap and Trade…. it is officially DOA
Good Morning Sammy!
I am 3/4 done with a new blogpost… need to finish it.
Massachusetts has done far more than just turn the tide of Socialism back to the dark ages.
Massachusetts election this past Tuesday may well have prevented the need for a second American Revolution of the bloody kind.
Thank you Massachusetts, you may well have just prevented a War.
I’ve harassed the liberals all I can for now, Sami, I got to take a shower before I head out. Keep em POed till I get back.
morning peeps!
damn, I just wrote a long comment and then got an error message! what’s up with that?
here’s my reconstructed comment:
Foxy, your article proves nothing. Just because the study is flawed does not prove that humans are not impacting climate. Glaciers are melting at alarming rates, this is undisputed. Scientists don’t always get it right and predictions are almost fruitless. But I doubt you can cite a scientist without some financial incentive to dispute the overwhelming opinion in the scientific community that humans negatively impact climate.
Choosing to believe lies goes both ways.
foxy said: Let’s stop the premise. It’s a lie. Carbon Crap. The earth is not warming due to anything man is doing.
meant to say “credible scientist”
Yes, just like many other years when the balance of power starts to shift back and then it will shift back again. It’s happened many times before and will happen many times again. or else our current government will completely collapse/shift in 2012 and a new cycle will begin.
Shift Happens.
VF said: 2010, a year that will live in History.
Good Morning Rosehips!
The study does not prove that global warming is real and it does not prove humans are involved in climate change
the report is unvetted garbage
but the point is moot… Scott Brown killed cap and trade
rosehips says
here’s my reconstructed comment:
Foxy, your article proves nothing. Just because the study is flawed does not prove that humans are not impacting climate.
The socialists have made a bid to drag america into a permanent socialist headlock
and 2010 is the tree of socialist woo
It is a wonderful new day. There is no man made Global Warming, there will be no new Cap and Trade, and the Health Care Abortion the Democrats tried to ram through is Dead, Dead, Dead.
Now People with some Common Sense can put together a Health Bill that will Truly help all Americans and not destroy our jobs nor economy.
We won’t be hearing much from the liar in chief for a while because he has his hands full defending himself from his own Rabid Progressive Democrat associates, allies, friends, and Chicago Thugs.
It must be Lonely at the Bottom eh Barrack?
Like I said, Rose, let’s stop the premise. It’s a lie. Carbon Crap. The earth is not warming due to anything man is doing
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