Fort Hood Fallout, Does Islam Own the US Military? Christian Chaplain Dismissed; Muslim Chaplain Promoted; UPDATE-Clarification

Editorial correction/clarification and a Hat Tip to US Army Chaplain (retired)  Wayne MacKirdy: More has come to light with regards to the circumstances of the dismissal of Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt. See the additional information at the bottom of this article*.

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The US Department of Defense is on the ‘defense’… on the heels of what has been revealed about what the DoD knew about the Fort Hood Assassin Hasan and when they knew it and why did they make the decisions they made which allowed this Assassin to progress to the point of shooting down forty-three (43) human beings, killing thirteen (13) of them all the while shouting the Islamic Battle Cry ‘Allah Akbar!’ as he pulled the trigger again and again and again?

For sure there will be finger pointing between the DoD, the FBI, and the CIA as this story continues to unfold. But… the Assassin Hasan, who has been formally charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder today, worked for the DoD as a US Army Officer, right? Let the poop hit the fan… and see where it lands.

Let’s take a look back into the recent past, shall we??

Some events of the past…

jordon james klingenschmitt navy chaplin officer

Chaplain Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt: court-martialed and dismissed from the U.S. Navy for praying in Jesus' name in uniform outside a chapel.

According to Pastor Chuck Baldwin, January 23, 2007, at NewsWithViews.com:

Chaplain Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt has been court-martialed and dismissed from the U.S. Navy. His crime? Praying in Jesus’ name in uniform outside a chapel. You read it right. After 15 1/2 years of exemplary service, Lt. Klingenschmitt is being drummed out of the Navy.

Understand that Klingenschmitt has a meritorious military record. He graduated from the Air Force Academy and spent 11 years as an Air Force missile officer. He was promoted to the rank of Major and was offered a job at the Pentagon at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. However, Klingenschmitt wanted to be a chaplain. As such, he willingly took a demotion in order to serve in the U.S. Navy as a chaplain at the rank of Lieutenant.

Chaplain Klingenschmitt served in the Persian Gulf. While there, he and his men won 6 awards, including Best in the Navy, for outstanding Community Service. But now this fine Christian man is being discharged. He is losing his career (not to mention a million-dollar pension) for the “crime” of praying in Jesus’ name.

Then there is the matter of Muslim Navy imam Chaplain Abuhena M. Saifulislam:

abuhena m. saifulislam us navy imam

Navy imam Chaplain Abuhena M. Saifulislam lifted his voice to God as he called to prayer more than 100 Department of Defense employees Monday at a Defense Department service celebrating iftar, the end of the daily fast during the month long Muslim practice.

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Hesham H. Islam (left), Muslim aide to the deputy secretary of defense, with Muslim Imam military chaplain Lt Cmdr Abuhena M. Saifulislam (right)

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French Navy Islamic Imam Mohamed-Al Bouharb (left), US Navy Imam Abuhena Saifulislam (center) with CIEE’s Hannah Taieb. Note the Islamic crescents on Bouharb’s cap and Saifulislam’s sleeves, 7 June 2009/Tom Heneghan - Reuters

Continued by Pastor Chuck Baldwin, January 23, 2007 at NewsWithViews.com:

Now, compare what the Navy has done to Lt. Klingenschmitt to this report from WorldNetDaily. “[T]he Pentagon recently promoted a Wahhabi-trained Muslim chaplain who catered to al-Qaida detainees at Guantanamo and fought to establish the first Mosque in Marine Corps history.”

According to WND, “Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England personally promoted Navy chaplain Abuhena Mohammed Saifulislam from lieutenant to lieutenant commander. Saifulislam also received a Joint Service Commendation Medal at the Pentagon ceremony held on the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Pentagon officials say the ceremony was unprecedented. ‘It’s unusual for a deputy secretary to personally promote an officer of that rank,’ said one official who wished to go unnamed. ‘No one has known of such a high-level dignitary doing that.'”

Furthermore, the WND report stated, “England also earlier this year personally dedicated a new Islamic center at Marine headquarters in Quantico, Va., on the advice of Saifulislam . . .”

Now get this: “The Muslim chaplain, who is stationed at Quantico, recited verses from the Quran in Arabic and English at the summer dedication ceremony, which included representatives from the Council on American-Islamic Relations, several leaders of which have been convicted on terrorism-related charges.”

Yet, it gets worse. According to the WND report, “Saifulislam, which is Arabic for ‘Sword of Islam,’ received his religious training at a radical Islamic school raided by federal agents after 9/11.” Terror expert Paul Sperry said, “The Pentagon is giving him a permanent, taxpayer-supported platform from which to convert grunts to Islam.” He also said, “With the Quantico mosque, the Pentagon is facilitating the study of the holy text the enemy uses, heretically or not, as their manual of warfare.”

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*Additional Information concerning the dismissal of Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt:

from: http://en.allexperts.com/e/g/go/gordon_james_klingenschmitt.htm

Gordon James Klingenschmitt

Navy Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt is an Evangelical Episcopal chaplain in the US Navy who came into conflict with a 1998 doctrine requiring chaplains to couch their expressions of religious faith outside worship services in a “non-sectarian” fashion.

Early life

Born 5 June, 1968 in Buffalo, New York, Gordon James Klingenschmitt was adopted at age three and raised in the Roman Catholic faith, by a loving family on a farm in Western New York. At age 18, while attending the US Air Force Academy, he became a born-again Christian through what he describes as “a powerful conversion encounter with Jesus Christ” at a Pentecostal bible study. He took a one-year leave of absence to perform missionary work throughout Mexico in “Youth With A Mission” and then returned to graduate from the Air Force Academy in 1991. He spent 11 years as an Air Force missile officer and was promoted to the rank of Major (O-4). He earned M.B.A. and Master of Divinity degrees from Regent University in 1998, and founded the 501(c3) nonprofit Persuade The World Ministries in 1999, for radio broadcasting, literature distribution, and to serve the homeless. He published his first book, License To Sin, in 2000, and was ordained an Evangelical Episcopal priest in 2001. Gordon James Klingenschmitt has been married to Mary Elaine Klingenschmitt since 1991.

Naval Chaplain school

His seniority and O-4 rank made him ineligible for Air Force Chaplaincy, so Klingenschmitt volunteered for a demotion to O-3 (Lieutenant) and switched services to become a Navy Chaplain in 2002. While attending Naval Chaplain School, he opposed the mandatory lectures that he felt pressured him to censor the content of his public prayers, specifically discouraging prayers that end “in Jesus name, Amen.” In an academic paper, Klingenschmitt cited his rights under US Code Title 10 Section 6031: “An officer in the chaplain corps may conduct public worship according to the manner and forms of the church of which he is a member” and he continued to pray “in Jesus name.”

U.S.S. Anzio

Onboard his first ship, the cruiser U.S.S. Anzio, Chaplain Klingenschmitt served alongside sailors during combat operations of Operation Iraqi Freedom. While in port, many sailors volunteered with him to feed the homeless in downtown Norfolk, and his programs won six awards, including the 2004 Good Neighbor award (small ship category), selected by the Chief of Navy Chaplains as “best in Navy” for community service. But his commanding officer, Capt. James Carr, disagreed with an evangelical sermon he preached at an optionally-attended Christian Memorial service in the base chapel (specifically his quoting John 3:36), and discouraged him from quoting the New Testament when saying “the evening prayer” onboard the ship’s microphone. Capt. Carr documented the sermon against the Chaplain as a performance deficiency, relieved him of duty and sent him ashore, and recommended a Navy board not renew his contract. Klingenschmitt appealed to the Chief of Navy Chaplains Rear Admiral Lou Iasiello, who denied his appeal by writing that praying in Jesus name “denigrates other faiths.”

Hunger strike

In December 2005, after serving 14 years on active-duty as a commissioned officer, Klingenschmitt faced sudden termination of his active-duty career without retirement, and his family faced eviction from military housing. He wrote to the President, and held a press conference in front of the White House on December 20th, to announce a hunger strike “until the President of the United States gives me back my uniform and lets me pray publicly in Jesus name.” Klingenschmitt drank water only for 18 days, lost 14 pounds, and his story was reported on the front pages of the Washington Times, Washington Post, and New York Times. 75 Congressmen, 29 pro-family groups, and 200,000 Americans petitioned the President to let chaplains pray freely without restriction of religious content. The Navy renewed Klingenschmitt’s contract, and his shore-based commanding officer CAPT Lloyd Pyle gave him written permission to pray in uniform in front of the White House. On 7 January 2006, Klingenschmitt ended his hunger strike and declared victory, by praying “in Jesus name” in uniform in front of the White House.

Court martial

His victory was short-lived. On 11 January, 2006, Rear Admiral Frederic Ruehe ruled that Capt. Carr had properly disciplined the chaplain for his optionally-attended sermon, and properly censored his prayers on the ship. Then on 21 February the Secretary of the Navy Donald C. Winter signed a new policy SECNAVINST 1730.7C (para 6c) that required Navy chaplains to use “non-sectarian” content during public prayers outside of a chapel setting, and empowered commanders to discipline chaplains who disobeyed. This policy redefined “public worship” as not including public prayers, leaving them unprotected by US Code. Klingenschmitt filed a formal whistleblower complaint against SECNAV Winter and the policy’s author Chief of Navy Chaplains Rear Admiral Lou Iasiello, and participated in another press conference. On 30 March, 2006, at an event hosted by Chief Justice Roy Moore in front of the White House, Chaplain Klingenschmitt wore his uniform to pray “in Jesus name,” directly contradicting the new policy that required “non-sectarian” prayer content. He declined to make other speeches or answer questions in uniform, he only read prayers and scriptures. Four weeks later his commander Capt. Lloyd Pyle filed charges against Klingenschmitt for disobeying orders, by wearing his uniform to voice partisan religious views at a political event. Rear Admiral Ruehe convened his court-martial, which is still pending today.

Legislation

Klingenschmitt’s story has been reported in over 100 media outlets, over 50 radio shows, over a dozen television programs (see archives at http://www.persuade.tv), and perhaps 1 million people have now called the President, asking him to intervene. The White House spokesman has responded to questions about Klingenschmitt four times, stating the President is concerned about protecting freedom for military chaplains. The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed H.R. 5122 (line 590) to let chaplains in every branch of the US military “pray according to the dictates of their conscience.” This legislation is pending in the Senate, and has not yet been signed by the President.

Links

*Gordon James Klingenschmitt’s web-site
*Navy Chaplain to be punished for gospel message
*Navy chaplain at center of prayer controversy to be court-martialedNavy Times, May 19, 2006
*Navy Charges Protesting Chaplain
*Navy chaplain’s complaint ruled ‘without merit’

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Additional Reading…

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P.C. in the U.S.A.: A deadly, bipartisan infection

Fort Hood Massacre Quotes of the Day

Fort Hood Suspect To Face 13 Counts of Premeditated Murder

George and Laura Bush’s visit to Fort Hood

Walter Reed Officials Asked: Was Hasan Psychotic? Everybody felt that if you were deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, you would not want Nidal Hasan in your foxhole

Terrorist Hasan Sent Money To Pakistan

Polls: Military Approval Ranks High with Americans, 81% Favorable… On Fort Hood Shooting, 60% Say Investigate As Terrorist Act

Why Didn’t They Fire Him?

Who Can Trust “The Man Who Despises America?”

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86 Responses to Fort Hood Fallout, Does Islam Own the US Military? Christian Chaplain Dismissed; Muslim Chaplain Promoted; UPDATE-Clarification

  1. arlenearmy says:

    This is just unbelievable.

    The VA is full of these Muslim Doctors. Though I have not seen them wear their Islamic costumes.

  2. arlenearmy says:

    I wonder if Lt. Klingenschmitt will appeal the decision. He must if not already done so.

  3. samiam60 says:

    I think we can expect to see more of this being we elected a Muslim in Chief who is hell bent on destroying Christianity in America.

  4. samiam60 says:

    I can not imagine Burka clad Pole Dancers.

  5. MariaS says:

    Excellent info and links. I have linked the post re.the Hasan fiasco at my blog:
    http://dodocanspell.blogspot.com/2009/11/very-nicefire-priest-and-promote-imam.html

    thank you.

  6. VotingFemale says:

    Hi Maria,

    You are welcome, dear, and thank your for your feedback. Lets get the word out as widely as possible.

    MariaS says

    Excellent info and links. I have linked the post re.the Hasan fiasco at my blog:
    http://dodocanspell.blogspot.com/2009/11/very-nicefire-priest-and-promote-imam.html

    thank you.

  7. VotingFemale says:

    Also Maria, I visited your blog and was prevented from commenting due to Google’s strict rules.

    I kindly suggest you consider moving your blog from the Google Blogger platform to the http://www.wordpress.com.

  8. VotingFemale says:

    Bush was brainwashed into this crap, Samiam.

    Look at the date of the report.

    This is the effect of Socialists successfully using the PC weapon on Conservatives…
    Then Obama waltzes into a ready made cocoon of Islamic Permissiveness.

    samiam60 says

    I think we can expect to see more of this being we elected a Muslim in Chief who is hell bent on destroying Christianity in America.

  9. samhenry says:

    Great post, CAT. I saw something on TV last night that said the US is about10 years behind Europe in dealing with radical Muslims. Belgium has in particular come down hard on them.

    I don’t care what is PC, we should restrict their entry into this country. Why? Because the Koran says that the faithful cannot co-exist with the infidel.

    In England this week, Muslims were demonstrating that they want to institute Sharia law to be the law of the land and the Queen to leave.

    I will not be in a country that allows a “peaceful invasion.” I will fight to protect my culture to the end.

    Have to go cut the lawn now.

  10. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Guten Nachmittag fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  11. Foxwood says:

    Almost time to go back to bed… 😦

  12. VotingFemale says:

    You echo the sentiments of the Majority of Americans, SamHenry.

    There has to be a ‘correction’ of out of control Political Correctness.

    There is a point when Islamic Political Correctness jumps the shark, and we passed that point quite a while ago.

    The problem at hand is Political Incorrectness.

  13. VotingFemale says:

    ‘Good Morning’ Fox, dear. Oh my, you must be bushed…

    Get some needed sleep dear…

  14. VotingFemale says:

    Interesting Data on Chavez, Fox… I wonder how they could get data without the socialist government tainting it.

  15. samiam60 says:

    Hey Hey Foxwood. Glad to see you.

    We need to have a guys page on here. Got to get Tellit in on it too.

  16. samiam60 says:

    VF, you good make us guys up a special place to call our own for Privacy. I think we will need poles installed in there also.

    Thank you in advance. 🙂

  17. arlenearmy says:

    Have y’all heard about the wii game that’s about muslims killing american soldiers? I heard that walmart took it off the market.

  18. samiam60 says:

    Arlene what is wrong with people these days?

  19. arlenearmy says:

    SamI
    Its heathenism. Folks act like they got no morals & no limits.

  20. m2 says:

    Did anyone catch Rush today?

    He went balls to the wall (pardon my speech, and I really don’t know what it means anyway)… lol, but he said that:

    “the Stimulus is a 500 billion dollar slush fund to re-elect Democrats in 2010.”

    That it’s Marxist Mafia in action. That they mean it nothing more but as a slush fund and along with ACORN to win in 2010- and thereafter, forever, after this cementing of a permanent nanny-state.

  21. samhenry says:

    I got this from a friend right now:

    Obamacare Endorsements: What the Bribe Was

    Sunday, November 8, 2009 10:39 AM

    By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

    As the suicidal Democratic congressmen proceed to rubber-stamp the Obama healthcare reform despite the drubbing their party took in the ’09 elections, the president trotted out the endorsements of the AMA and the AARP to stimulate support. But these – and the other endorsements – his package has received are all bought and paid for.
    Here are the deals:
    • The American Medical Association (AMA) was facing a 21 percent cut in physicians’ reimbursements under the current law. Obama promised to kill the cut if they backed his bill. The cuts are the fruit of a law requiring annual 5 percent to 6 percent reductions in doctor reimbursements for treating Medicare patients. Bravely, each year Congress has rolled the cuts over, suspending them but not repealing them. So each year, the accumulated cuts threaten doctors. By now, they have risen to 21 percent. With this blackmail leverage, Obama compelled the AMA to support his bill…or else!
    The AARP got a financial windfall in return for its support of the healthcare bill. Over the past decade, the AARP has morphed from an advocacy group to an insurance company (through its subsidiary company). It is one of the main suppliers of Medi-gap insurance, a high-cost, privately purchased coverage that picks up where Medicare leaves off. But President Bush-43 passed the Medicare Advantage program, which offered a subsidized, lower-cost alternative to Medi-gap. Under Medicare Advantage, the elderly get all the extra coverage they need plus coordinated, well-managed care, usually by the same physician. So more than 10 million seniors went with Medicare Advantage, cutting into AARP Medi-gap revenues.
    • Presto! Obama solved their problem. He eliminates subsidies for Medicare Advantage. The elderly will have to pay more for coverage under Medigap, but the AARP — which supposedly represents them — will make more money. (If this galls you, join the American Seniors Association, the alternative group; contact sbarton@americanseniors.org. This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .)
    • The drug industry backed ObamaCare and, in return, got a 10-year limit of $80 billion on cuts in prescription drug costs. (A drop in the bucket of their almost $3 trillion projected cost over the next decade.) They also got administration assurances that it will continue to bar lower-cost Canadian drugs from coming into the U.S. All it had to do was put its formidable advertising budget at the disposal of the administration.
    • Insurance companies got access to 40 million potential new customers. But when the Senate Finance Committee lowered the fine that would be imposed on those who don’t buy insurance from $3,500 to $1,500, the insurance companies jumped ship and now oppose the bill, albeit for the worst of motives.
    The only industry that refused to knuckle under was the medical device makers. They stood for principle and wouldn’t go along with Obama’s blackmail. So the Senate Finance Committee retaliated by imposing a tax on medical devices such as automated wheelchairs, pacemakers, arterial stents, prosthetic limbs, artificial knees and hips and other necessary accoutrements of healthcare.
    So these endorsements are not freely given, but bought and paid for by an administration that is intent on passing its program at any cost.
    © 2009 Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

  22. samhenry says:

    Damn President arrives in Alaska and will open his mouth before troops. Troops are ecstatic. Must be electroshock therapy.

  23. samhenry says:

    He begins as usual with shout outs.

  24. m2 says:

    Thanks SH.

    Rush has said all these cut deals- but none of them will make it out in the end… Not doctors. Maybe not AARP… None of it. Short-term gain, long term death.

    Idiots.

    And wow, how compassionate is the Democrat party??????!??

    They are the slime that rots the drainage ditch.

    Punishing medical devices makers and most ppl in need of healthcare with taxation on those necessary devices.

  25. arlenearmy says:

    Some of the airmen are stone faced – ones standing behind obama. Some are not applauding.

  26. m2 says:

    Glenn is making a point. The Dems have been using human props behind them all year to push their agenda.

  27. samhenry says:

    I was talking with a job interviewer for a home job and so was unable to watch Glen.

  28. arlenearmy says:

    m2
    I went to Obama rally in Houston. Campaign workers were trying to scout out veterans who wore veteran t-shirts. I didn’t see any. So they picked mostly white youth to stand behind obama & they gave them obama signs.

    So I can personally attest that the human backdrop behind Obama at these rallies are staged.

  29. arlenearmy says:

    ALERT

    Hasan has been linked to overseas jihad terroist

  30. arlenearmy says:

    i am curious as to why would obama all of a sudden ask for evidence collected at the scene….. when the authorities did not take EVERYTHING. There was medication & other stuff left behind in that apartment.

    He could had things stuffed into certain objects. If I was investigating, I would taken every thing & looked inside the walls of the apartment.

  31. samhenry says:

    The country is being run by a bunch of crooked amateurs.

    Now wants ideas for job creation. Hey,lower taxes and give subsidies or tax breaks to companies that MAKE things to sell other than hamburgers.

  32. samhenry says:

    6 people looking for every job opening.

  33. m2 says:

    I know ppl didn’t like Bush, and he grew govt… But at least he worked and didn’t stage ppl behind him.

    I’m SO tired of the useless Obama. Who parties, golfs, whines, and delivers unfeeling speeches read off a teleprompter.

    It’s so much of an OBVIOUS sham now- this whole administration… It’s just, depressing.

    Depessing not just for me and ppl like me, but all of us. Unless you are a crony to the leadership, or a union higher up… Who feels good about this?

    Any real American?

  34. samhenry says:

    Big whoop – he’s having another summit. This one will be a job summit but it will be a thinly veiled pitch for another stimulus bill.

  35. VotingFemale says:

    How ’bout I call it the ‘Men’s Room?’
    I can install urinals and condom vending machines…

    hahahahaha

    samiam60 says

    VF, you good make us guys up a special place to call our own for Privacy. I think we will need poles installed in there also.

    Thank you in advance. 🙂

  36. m2 says:

    Ah rush was talking about the job summit… And it’s all meetings meetings meetings, all “looking busy” without accomplishment. Rush said all that time he has to read he should get an education on capitalism … Like Freidman book. Since his only real experience with capitalism is learning about it through his Communist mentors and Marxist sympathetic ivy league education.

    Remember how they all said Obama was spool smart before he was sworn in? Tom brokaw and Charlie rose said he was maybe the smartest person in the office, ever.

    Smart or spoiled and immature?

  37. samhenry says:

    Now we know why Obama did not go to Germany to celebrate the fall of the wall. I had the feeling it was a security issue. The State Department has issued a traveler’s advisory to Americans there to keep a low profile (this is for Germany) because Al Quaeda has made threats via video of attacking US and German interests there.

  38. m2 says:

    Oh I hope Hoffman wins. Can they revoke Owens vote?

  39. arlenearmy says:

    M2
    I dont think it could revoke owens vote on that healthcare bill.

    I would be happy is Hoffman wins.

  40. m2 says:

    Arlene that’d be amazing if he wins… Because Dede dropped out on the Saturday before- so many absentee could have been cast for her. And ACORN uses absentee to commit fraud (Al Franken)… So if he wins he will have truly made an amazing accomplishment!

  41. arlenearmy says:

    folks
    i hate to be a doubting thomas, but what is hasan the terrorist is already dead.

    At 1st they tell us that he’s dead. Then they say he’s alive. How do we know if we can’t see him.

  42. Foxwood says:

    “I can install urinals and condom vending machines…”

    Condom vending machine? That’s what that was? I thought that was the nastiest bubble gum I ever tasted, but it sure blew some good bubbles…

  43. Foxwood says:

    I’m up… It’s Friday… I usually get up at 12 midnight, but someone broke a cellsite and I got to fix it. 😦

  44. arlenearmy says:

    The soldier or veteran who questions or complains about their doctor as being suspected as being an enemy to the nation, will not get in trouble.

    Though I suspect that CID is going to Hasan’s patient list to question the soldiers who were treated by him.

  45. arlenearmy says:

    BEWARE that there maybe some propaganda in the terrorist jihad attack at Ft. Hood.

    What’s odd, I did not see any black soldier on list of those killed. Ft. Hood has a sizable amount of blacks. And in a room of 300-400 & to not kill a single black, means to me that Hasan was specific in who he killed. A few blacks got wounded in the leg & arm, I guess to make it look like an indiscriminate rampage killing.

    Just saying, this looks odd to me.

  46. arlenearmy says:

    wired money to pakistan?

  47. Oklahoma says:

    Muslim OIL Dollars along with the Washington D.C. Branch of the New World Order moved ObuMer (Muslim) into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    And that Traitor to The American People had the chutzpah to say not to jump to conclusions about the motive of the shooter at Ft. Hood Texas.

    The U.S. soldier Muslim Terrorist Maj. Nidal Malik Nasan yelled allah achbar as he began killing American (Un-Armed) soldiers.

    And you have to ask yourself, why are American soldiers Un-Armed on their own military basis?

    If they are Un-Armed, they can NOT protect themselves, nor can they protect the American People.

    The U.S. Military is being infiltrated by Muslim Jihad Terrorists.

    And the proof is 13 Dead 31 Wounded.

  48. VotingFemale says:

    Question everything…

    nods to Arlene…

  49. VotingFemale says:

    The real issue to me on Owens and the other person from California… how is it legal to swear in people into the house of representatives who are not certified as the winner? There was no time for either to be certifed by their states…

    something is tainted… and will the GOP squawk about it?

  50. arlenearmy says:

    Oklahoma
    I hear what you saying. I knew many GIs who were in Vietnam & had to turn their weapon into the arms room.

    The reason why military bases wont let soldiers pack loaded weapons is – according to the brass – “there’s no need for it”. Ive always wondered the REAL reason why they wouldn’t let us pack. So I asked platoon leader. plt said that if they let us pack & if GI get mad at the COhe may decide to waste him. Sort of like Full Metal Jacket situation.

  51. arlenearmy says:

    VF
    Come to think it, you’re right. The election has to be certified.

  52. samhenry says:

    Oklahoma – went to your site and I have begun to watch the movie OBSESSION. Great.

    Hope you can get some good deli out there. Hey it’s hard to get it in Western New York!

  53. samhenry says:

    Hi, VF – That idiot Gore is to appear on Larry King Dead tonight. I saw a clip. The man is a maniac and is in support of O taking his time in making his decision.

    ALSO, saw a couple of clips of Palin on Opra. Palin did really well. Opra often asked questions like an interragator – actually more like the Spanish Inquisition. I have come to really hate that woman. She is now full of herself and shiq. She was out of line in the degree of her support for Obama. What was appropriate about taking her on the junket to get the Olympics? You don’t take TV stars. You do it on a diplomatic level on your own.

  54. ohiobelle says:

    Obutthole just doen’t want to admit that that the worst act of terrorism since 9/11 HAPPENED ON HIS WATCH! Bush kept us safe for 8 YEARS… Obutthole only 8 MONTHS!

  55. MariaS says:

    Hi VF – I am sorry you could not post at my blog. I had to restrict comments to Google Accounts only, because Canadian lefties are foul-mouthed and even with the restrictions I have to play moderator to keep them away.

    I like your blog and will visit often.
    A big Meowwwwww to you (that’s a friendly meow BTW, claws come out only in leftie presence)

  56. arlenearmy says:

    Oh yeah, Maria … your blog would not allow me to make comment either.

  57. ohiobelle says:

    Welcome aboard MariaS!! The trolls can be a problem.. a little common sense keeps the moonbats away! They just can’t stand common sense.. hahah

  58. samhenry says:

    Hello, Maria. I’m sure you will work things out. But the Great Cat is right; come to WordPress.

    Belle – you have a very good point. But remember, O had a helluva hard time choosing a dog. Can we expect him to flesh out our security – or that of our troops in under 4 years?

    He is an idiot savant.

  59. samhenry says:

    Guys I’m really tired from teaching today. The calls to go in come VERY early in the AM. I’m going to try to go to sleep. You know me, I’ll probably be back at midnight. Meanwhile, I’m right in there with you in condemnation of the current administration and the turd at the top.

  60. ohiobelle says:

    Sam wrote: Belle – you have a very good point. But remember, O had a helluva hard time choosing a dog. Can we expect him to flesh out our security – or that of our troops in under 4 years?

    I hope we don’t have to find out. I hope Obama & Co gets impeached within the next year. He’s worse than Carter!

  61. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, get some rest. We’ll catch up later.

    Nite Nite

  62. samhenry says:

    Nite Belle – I feel we are two ships that pass in the night – or rather two dogs riding in passing cars!

    O is worse than Carter yes. O is worse than Bill Carter as well. We just have to keep shining our flash lights on this worm.

  63. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, haha.. I forgot to tell you how much I love the pic!

    We are screwed if Obama & Co ignore this act of terrorism. Bill Clinton tried to ignore the USS Cole and we all know what happened next… 9/11

  64. arlenearmy says:

    Larry King is a DIRTY OLD MAN

  65. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene, I agree.

    I’ve got to run for a bit. I’ll be back in a little bit.

  66. m2 says:

    Hey all, I just wanted to mention that tonight I broke with my longstanding boycott of NBC.. to watch the office at 9 and now 30 rock.

    Well on the office they cracked on WSJ and the “pay” articles.

    And on 30 Rock “Liz Lemon” had a book on the NYT bestseller list that she said was lower than “the Founding Fathers Diet”….

    I tell you folks. I know it’s comedy and all that… But to even get those jokes as a liberal you have to be reading huffington post. As a conservative, you get them and it makes you mad.

    I’m tired of this sh*t.

  67. Foxwood says:

    Purge of Republicans in Civil Service.

    This is something a Marxist country would do. They are looking forward to ruling you, people. Get ready, if we don’t vote these POSs out of office.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/12/obama-administration-intends-to-purge-republicans-from-the-civil-service/

    Obama Administration Intends to Purge Republicans From the Civil Service

    Remember how the Democrats reacted when the Bush Administration started replacing U.S. Attorneys? At least they were actually political appointees employed at the will and whim of the President.

    Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

    Thursday, November 12th at 11:42AM EST
    58 Comments
    “This is what happens in third world kleptocracies and totalitarian regimes.”

    Via Instapundit comes word that the federal government’s Office of Personnel Management (OPM) intends to purge the federal government of Republican civil servants all in the name of purify the federal bureaucracy.

    You can read the OPM memo here.

    It is a typical Washington process that many political appointees are able to take jobs within the civil service once their political appointment expires — usually at the conclusion of one administration. What often happens as well is Congressional staffers, before an election or shortly thereafter, will move over to the Executive Branch placed into the civil service, in effect, by appointment.

    So, for example, when George Bush became President in 2001, a number of Clinton political appointees became civil service employees. As a result, they became subject to civil service hiring and firing rules, which meant they could no longer be replaced simply for having been a Democratic appointee.

    Barack Obama is changing that. He intends to purge all Republicans from the federal bureaucracy retroactive to five years ago.

    Under his new rules, made retroactive for five years, the Office of Personnel Management will examine civil service employees who got their start as political appointees in the Bush administration and terminate those employees. The order is retroactive to 2004, that moment when a number of Republican congressional staffers and others sought to embed into the second Bush administration right after the election.

    According to John Berry, the Director of OPM:

    Beginning January 1, 2010, agencies must seek prior approval from OPM before they can appoint a current or recent political appointee to a competitive or non-political excepted service position at any level under the provisions of title 5, United States Code. OPM will review these proposed appointments to ensure they comply with merit system principles and applicable civil service laws. I have delegated decisionmaking authority over these matters to career Senior Executives at OPM to avoid any hint of political influence.

    The memorandum goes on to apply this change to civil servants who were political appointees in the last five years, in effect freezing these employees out of other positions, denying them promotions, and forcing them out of their jobs.

    No one is allowed to stand in the way of Barack Obama’s agenda, including his own bureaucracy. This is what happens in third world kleptocracies and totalitarian regimes.

    This is scary stuff.

    Just for perspective: remember the Democrats threatened to throw Bush administration people in jail for firing United States Attorneys who happened to be Democrats. In that case, it was clear as crystal that U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President and he can fire them whenever he wants. In this case, these people are now civil service employees who do not serve at the pleasure of the President and cannot be fired just because they are Republicans. in fact, the law is very clear on that point.

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  69. samhenry says:

    Up in the middle of the night with those rats called dogs.

    Yesterday Sam Henry acted out because I was away too long. He destroyed a basket on the counter and some wooden bookends in a box I was to mail to my grand niece. Ah, well. He has been attention starved this week. I was eating in the kitchen with a friend and he brought me a good stuffed toy and he knew it wasn’t his. Then his got is ball and dropped it loudly. Hey, I have separation anxiety from my old boyfriends as well. Life is tough and unfair, Sam Henry.

    I figure I can live though dog destruction if Obama is destroying my country. I do believe the American people will wake up to him.

    Well Sami and FOX, it’s four AM – time to fire that damnable canon but do unfurl the real Confederate flag. It has meaning and is a part of our history. The stars and stripes flew up north with slavery going on as well. People confuse these outward manifiestations with the heart of the men and women who work both good and bad under them. We are imperfect – all of us.

    Good morning all.

  70. samhenry says:

    Anita Dunn really has not left the White House – her husband is just about to come on board in a big way.

    Tokyo, Japan (CNN) — In the first major shakeup among President Obama’s senior staff, White House Counsel Greg Craig is being pushed out in favor of veteran Democratic lawyer Bob Bauer because of a dispute over plans to close the U.S. military prison in Cuba, CNN has learned.

    The move will be announced by the White House in the coming days, a senior administration official and a senior Democratic source confirmed.

    The sources said it could be announced as early as Friday while the president will be in Japan starting a four-nation tour of Asia, which would make it likely the staff change will be overshadowed by other events.

    Craig declined to comment and hung up when reached by CNN late Thursday evening.

    Bauer is the husband of Anita Dunn, the outgoing White House communications director. Dunn, who recently led a so-called “war” on Fox News, announced earlier this week that she is leaving her White House post, a long-anticipated move that was not connected to the media battle.

  71. m2 said, “the Stimulus is a 500 billion dollar slush fund to re-elect Democrats in 2010.”

    EVERY FREAKIN FUND THEY HAVE UP THERE UNDER Hussein is a slush fund and nothing more. Slush fund for everything the POS dems have wanted for decades but couldn’t get (legally)…

    OMG these kids will be the death of me while my husband is gone, doggonit I missed catching the little twit tonight. WHY ME?

    Freedom is not free.

    Guys can we save what we can for the next three years?

    We must find a way to get that POS out of office.

  72. VotingFemale says:

    Only Obama can get Obama out of office by pulling an asshat stunt that will reset his sorry butt.

    The good news… it is now less than three years till his ass is voted out. Time waits for no communist. Main thing is to increase the pressure on Obama and Congress and keeping their every twitch reported to the world and communicate communicate communicate.

    We are in the Majority and we grow that majority daily.

    A good point was made on the comment log last evening…

    The Fort Hood attack was a bonafied Islamic Terrorist Attack on American Soil… the first one since 9/11 and 8 months into Obama’s Presidency.

    We Shall NOT Let the Socialists Spin this attack into the act of a Socialist Victimology Candidate deserving of pity.

    The Bastard Hates America and is a Self-Identified Soldier of Allah – SoA

    The Socialists depend on Bull Sh!t to protect themselves from judgment of We the People.

    Is it not Ironic that as far back as June 2008, I and others started identifying the acts and words of Obama as that of a Marxist bent on ripping this country to shreds… and the bleating moonbats all said NO NO NO Bush is Hitler…. No More Bush… Elect Obama, he is a Black Man and will save America from the Evil Bush.

    Funny… these same asshats tried to deflect the fall out of Obama’s War on America with taunts of “You are all RACIST”

    Hear much of that bullsh!t anymore??
    It failed to launch… failed to whip decent Americans into Bowing Down to their Chosen One…

    The Fall of Obama happens daily… this Fort Hood Terrorist Attack is just starting to dawn on America for what it is… and the cover-up by the Socialist of what it really is… The 10.2% unemployment rate can not be blamed on Bush and can not be propagandized away. The Socialists Own the Unemployment Rate… and own the so-called ‘Stimulus’ Bill that fanned the fire of unemployment… own the ObamaCare Bill which serves to destroy the Health Care Industry and replace it with the shackles of Communism… and much much more…

    Today is Friday the 13th for the Socialists… they made their bed… they shat in it… now they soil themselves with their own shat.

    HO HO HO

    communicate communicate communicate

  73. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning SamHenry!

    Sounds like Sam Henry needs to burn some energy and get out and walk and run it off… perhaps some of your borders can take him for walks.

  74. VotingFemale says:

    I watch Obama’s facial and body language in context of which he reacts… and watch it very closely. In my observation, he is telegraphing disappointment and fear and defeat but resolve to not stop his war on America, even in the face of ultimate defeat of those efforts.

    He was NOT A HAPPY CAMPER during the speech by Japan’s Prime Minister. I understand the way Japanese deal with disagreement and apparently, so does Obama. Japan tied China to the Environment issue as a problem to be solved. That flies in the Face of Obama who would destroy the economic prosperity of the free world on the alter of Gore’s Global Warming, enabling Communist China to take over the world as their economic might grows while avoiding the suicide of Gore’s Enviro-War on the Free World.

    Obama is a Communist… and does what Communists do… wage war on Free Nations and in this case, an Economic War designed to destroy the Economic Might of America, Japan, and Europe.

    So… no, Obuttholieo is not a happy camper… Japan is not stupid enough to jump off the Economic Cliff he is trying to Force America to do.

    He obviously does not believe the propaganda projected by himself and others on the Socialist/Marxist bandwagon…

    This is a sign we are having an effect and a very powerful one. The loss of the war on FOX News, thus the preemptive move to take over and federalize the News Media has failed… and in an impressive way.

  75. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning VF and all Patriots here today and everyday.

    Obama reminds me of a small who child who tries to get away with things he knows are wrong.

    When stopped and punished, he pouts!

    He has that Pout look on his face a lot lately! 🙂

    So far we have only slapped his little hands but come 2010 and 2012 we shall pull down his pants and Paddle his dumb a$$ all the way back to the Chicago Ghetto’s.

  76. samhenry says:

    I can’t believe he sent 3 plans back to the drawing boards. Meanwhile, our men are dying in ever growing numbers and the Taliban know our troop levels and where they are. They are sitting ducks. Just bring them home. The war has come here.
    VF I know you are for making a firm stand there but I am not sure that we can in this war because the war itself is a moving target.

    As you saw from my article last night – there is a traveler’s advisory out to Americans to avoid travel to Germany and if they do, to keep a low profile. Al Quaeda has made recent tapes that they will hit major targets there. I am sure they are sorry O did not make it to the anniversary.

  77. m2 says:

    Good morning SH, sam, and VF!

    VF how true. The racist argument is plain haggard. In fact, these personal/sarcastic based jabs at conservative enterprise on NBC make you believe Saul Alinsky rule (appear to have more power than you do), when about 70 plus think Obama is doing a pitiful job- if you get an accurate poll not preeceded by psychological tricks or sampled 2:1 democrat.

    Thus news about the civil service is disgusting. And the pt that what Bush did was legal. Thus is not. Clinton fired 23 or something attorneys ad soon as he took office. Now how long did we HEAR about this “atrocity” by Bush between 2006 and 2008.. to this day even.

    Obama is cracking up before our eyes. How right you are VF. A good dose of Americans watched his cold speech after Fort Hood and his 2 min of call-outs preceeding, and they felt the gut feeling, that primordial intuition. Something with this guy is not right.

  78. VotingFemale says:

    A Response to Doug Lee…

    You say nothing …NOTHING about the Navy Imam Abuhena M. Saifulislam who is linked to Islamic Radical Jihadism…

    Take your Fact Checking ass some place else, Terrorist Enabler.

  79. VotingFemale says:

    Here is a fact for you to check, Doug Lee:

    the word Saifulislam is Arabic for ‘Sword of Islam’

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  81. roxannadanna says:

    I wake up with a headache and fall asleep with one.
    This is the most appalling crap. Who can you trust? You can’t trust your government, the military… who can you trust?

  82. VotingFemale says:

    Trust, Roxanna?

    Trust is a fragile thing…

  83. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning M2! Samiam! and again SamHenry!

    new blogpost is out… nothing about it in the blogosphere as of this writing… pays to be on the east coast and wake early lol

    https://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/obama%E2%80%99s-enviro-war-on-the-free-world-a-boon-to-communist-china-japan-is-not-buying-it/

  84. boudicabpi says:

    At times it is hard to comment on this administration as our government under Obama is more than enough to make you sick.
    Bob A.

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