*NATIONAL EMERGENCY*
TURN TO OBAMA TO SAVE YOU!!!
BE VERY AFRAID!!!
*NATIONAL EMERGENCY*
Yeah right, Barack… We all know this ploy and have been awaiting it… yawn
This is the
Real ‘National’ Emergency
Obama Faces
Click Image to see article - Friday, October 23, 2009
This is the ‘Emergency’ Obama Will Use to Defeat America
Withhold Vaccine & Incrementally Delare Marshal Law; Any Questions?
Well Boys and Girls…
We all saw this coming from a mile away
This train just pulled into the station
Alllll Aboooord!!!
Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency
by The Associated Press
October 24, 2009
U.S. President Barack Obama has signed a proclamation declaring 2009 H1N1 swine flu a national emergency, the White House said on Saturday.
The proclamation, which Obama signed on Friday night, will make it easier for U.S. medical facilities to handle a surge in flu patients by allowing the waiver of some requirements of Medicare, Medicaid and other federal health insurance programs as needed, the White House said in a statement.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday that H1N1 swine flu has become widespread in 46 of the 50 U.S. states, a level comparable to the peak of ordinary flu seasons but far earlier and with more waves of infection expected.
The White House statement said the declaration was intended to prepare the country in case of “a rapid increase in illness that may overburden health care resources” and was similar to disaster declarations issued before hurricanes hit coastal areas.
Seasonal flu normally peaks sometime between late November and early March.
Swine flu has hit young adults and children the hardest, while seasonal flu normally is more dangerous for people over age 65. H1N1 has killed more than 1,000 Americans and put more than 20,000 in the hospital in the United States since it emerged earlier this year, the CDC said. But health officials are quick to note that the actual number of cases cannot be measured.
The Following Video was posted on Youtube two months ago and
implicates the involvement of the US Military
in the event of a
Presidential Declaration of a
National N1H1 State of Emergency.
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He is a bold bastard… I’ll give him that much.
This happens on a Friday night/Saturday morning? Isn’t that when you hide things from the news?
When I lived in Tulsa, I knew all kind of Law Enforcement people. Not so much anymore. Does anyone know Law Enforcement people or Medical Emergency people to ask questions?
Obutthole says this is like calling for an emergency before a hurricane.
NO IT’S NOT!
States ask for a state of emergency from the President. This is the President calling for it. It is NOT his job!
This stinks… something is wrong.
Does this mean that we should not be surprised if he moves some crowd-control military vehicles into place?
Great Post VF. I completely retitled and recast my early morning post. It was terrible. This one is FANTASTIC. You are ahead of the curve on a crooked road.
We should also not be surprised to be in line with some illegals. In a national emergency, that is unimportant.
I learned of it real time, SamHenry.
Got the initial BreakingNews Alert.
I have my FOX News “Political Scanner” on…
I had to reframe the blogpost on the fly to add the Declaration of a National Emergency… and it fits in like a glove.
samhenry says
Does this mean that we should not be surprised if he moves some crowd-control military vehicles into place?
Great Post VF. I completely retitled and recast my early morning post. It was terrible. This one is FANTASTIC. You are ahead of the curve on a crooked road.
hmmm am back from lunch and awaiting in-law arrival.
just hearing of this, wonder what Alex Jones has on his site…
Alex Jones is not up to speed with this story…
this is breaking news…
this is funny:
http://io9.com/5388286/why-are-thousands-of-people-dreaming-about-this-man
http://www.theflucase.com/
Obutthole says this is to streamline getting medical people in place. Who else is moving into place? He can’t call the National Guard. That’s the Govenor’s jobs. Unless he figured out a loophole around it. His Civilian Force in not in place yet. Or is it?
This is the only way he can throw his weight around anymore, since he’s lost all control except from his lemmings…
hey everyone! good to see you guys are still fighting the good fight. gotta go. maybe c u later.
Hi Warrant!
I fully expected him to pull the National Emergency Card…
Mysteriously, there is a shortage of Vaccine… now this.
His communism knows no limits
at least FOX is trying to figure out the underlying meaning in the lingo…
on another note, the gov’t obviously sucks, claiming they had 120 mil doses and only had 11 mil.
If it were a Republican run gov’t there would be 100 mil.
but bottomline, gov’t is not and should not be a healthcare provider.
lol
I expect this hoax to get seen through like swiss cheese…
All medical people are already in place 24/7/365.
There is no one to moblize… unless he means the US Armed Forces
Foxwood says
Obutthole says this is to streamline getting medical people in place. Who else is moving into place? He can’t call the National Guard. That’s the Govenor’s jobs. Unless he figured out a loophole around it. His Civilian Force in not in place yet. Or is it?
hey WG!
why always running off! busy fam?!
The good thing about this crock of shit is most Leftists, being the religion of Organic- don’t trust vaccines either.
So I doubt they’d line up because “the One” says they must.
Glad you checked in Warrant!
seeing as how we are all going to likely be herded into a FEMA camp for being Conservative Bloggers…
The Internet Crackdown follow up is no doubt coming
If they try to give you a flu shot tell them you are a DEMOCRAT…
snicker…
here’s a comment from that youtube comment you posted VF… makes me SMILE.
You won’t have to worry about the shots. They will not have enough serum – trust me – the Pharma countries needed more lead time.
Also, it is worrisome that the bulk of our serum is coming from outside the US.
When will we wake up. We are at the mercy of other countries. We are not independent and free. We are encumbered, slowed and muzzled.
I have NEVER been so angry.
Gosh VF, great comment-GREAT DEFENSE!
VF SAID, “If they try to give you a flu shot tell them you are a DEMOCRAT…”
M2, yes an epic deployment is in the future for my family and we are all freaking out, especially me (I guess and kids are being really difficult) go figure…
just think how disconnected we all will be when Rockefeller orders Obutthead to shut down the internet!
Warrant – can you possibly put that thing in neutral – even turn it off and stay for a moment.
Internet shutdown – we are prepared with our poop dropping pidgeons carrying truthful messages.
hey SH, thanks, really. I wish I could, more to do today than I think I can possibly get done, plus I think I’m going to cry.
This is a pre-declaration of National Emergency by Obama…
US Military cited as responders…
Cry Warrant and I will shoot out your tires. Get mad! Get really mad. Don’t let those BAS-tions of idiocy make you cry. Don’t cry for America. Stiffen up and fight.
THE DOG has never appeared this way on the blog or anywhere in public. Self-surprise is in progress.
I think he has some sort of military getting in place. Just me.
Has anyone seen any military movement? I called my mom. She didn’t even know.
I saw that backbone of yours long ago…
way to go girl!
samhenry says
Cry Warrant and I will shoot out your tires. Get mad! Get really mad. Don’t let those BAS-tions of idiocy make you cry. Don’t cry for America. Stiffen up and fight.
THE DOG has never appeared this way on the blog or anywhere in public. Self-surprise is in progress.
They have a GPS map of registered republicans… and conservative bloggers lol
Foxwood says
I think he has some sort of military getting in place. Just me.
now… this is the conservative flu shot and this is the Obama loyalist flu shot…
going to sign this petiton in support of ObamaCare or shall I give you the Conservative Flu Shot? Ehh, Boobie?
The Red Shot or the Blue Shot?
hey sh, i’m mad, i’m sad, i’m out of the loop (retired army guard ’08) hubby preparing for afghanistan, but no word on military guard troops rallying for BHO. now, remember in alabama in Samson the regular army AD being dispatched to patrol the streets early this year after the mass shooting? active duty personel with commanders in charge that are for this crap take over will be doing God knows what and soldiers are to obey direct orders. we’ve seen what happened to anyone that bucked this creep, they lost their civilian jobs. it’s like beck said, mob politics…the bat will get you in the end if you defy.
Obutthole has found another “emergency” to distract us from his agenda. HURRY IF WE DON’T ACT FAST WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! IT’S AN EMERGENCY!!!
I would first look to see what bill is on the table… oh that would be… I believe that would be Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009, H.R. 3221!
USAction (aka ACORN) will get billions with this act. USAction will get even more when health scare and cap & trade pass.
Obutthole would rather we just focus on getting healthy while he spreads our wealth…
I expect MEMA to start issuing directives and notices… the Massachusetts Emergency Management Administration.
Mass passed all the requisite laws this year to respond to the Chosen One’s Self-Granted Federal Emergency Powers
Hi Belle!
Pass OBAMACARE IMMEDIATELY!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!! HURRY !!!!
HAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!
HELLO VF!
WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!! PASS NOW!!!!! DEATH IS NEAR!!!!
I think death would be better than 3 more years of this crap!
Just think in a couple of months we’ll all be minutes from FREEZING TO DEATH!! WE’LL NEED TAX & SPEND RIGHT AWAY TO SAVE US FROM DEATH!!!!
I may be getting to paranoid here, but this is something that is just the beginning of events. But on top of that, a President has never done anything like this before.
I want to live long enough to watch Obama go down in shame… only a matter of time for this arrogant bastard to do it to himself…
ohiobelle says
I think death would be better than 3 more years of this crap!
I honestly get sick of the liberal scare tactics. While Obutthole is giving our money to ACORN we are standing in line for hours because we’ll told we are all going to die if we don’t get a shot. I guess we are better off in line rather than in front of the tv.
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shhhh… the anointed one doesn’t want us to see what he is doing…. shhhhhh don’t tell anybody.. lol
I have a little news for Obutthole… I’m not tired either and I’ve already had the swine flu.. lol I guess I won’t be standing in a line when I can be online calling your liberal moonbat ass out!! lol
Belle?
Obuttfuk still does not get it…
MILLIONS see through his crap like a fishnet…
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! VF I LOVE IT!!
Been in and out working on the deck next door. Got Fox Blasting the neighborhood with my 5 watt rebroadcaster. Like a small pirate radio station…
vf, Obuttfuk?? Oh that is great! lol
Are we still cell mates or what?
hello fox!
Did you get your shot?? Did you? Did you?? You must hurry before you DIE!!! lol
In laws are here!
WG, don’t lose the hope! As I read on a website I posted up top, as history shows, it only takes 3% of the global population to FIGHT off DICTATORSHIP.
hi Belle!
you’re already Swine Flu vaccinated, au natural!
What will Obutthead do about your kind?
M2 wrote: it only takes 3% of the global population to FIGHT off DICTATORSHIP.
God I hope there is still some of us left after the swine flu…
Hello M2!
m2 wrote: What will Obutthead do about your kind?
hahahaha…. I hope he leaves the country and doesn’t come back.. lol
Warrant – you get a pass on this one. Just put on some all terrain tires on that vehicle of yours and stand by.
I hate to see you upset, Warrant. I am sick to death that your husband has that tour of duty ahead of him. I had thought he was already over there. I know you are beside yourself. We are here for you. But dry your eyes. Remember Scarlett – she just got determined. Tommorrow IS another day.
And speaking of that. Remember what I have always said: The GOOD thing about the future IS THAT WE DON”T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT IT TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. In this I am talking directly for your concern about your husband. You have just as much cause to be confident that he will be OK as that he will not. The odds are that he will be. Hey, I’m not Cher in MOONSTRUCK slapping you in the face saying “snap out of it.” I am your pal and good friend and fan, SH saying be comforted. Make those tears of determination.
I really hope the FBI and possible others vigilantes on the inside work to force this Communist train off it’s tracks.
whoops! Communist/FASCIST train off it’s track.
I hear is space ship is over Moscow…
Obutthole.. your portal waits… lol Bye Bye
I’ve got to take care of some things. I’ll be back in a bit.
belle was swine flu that bad? did you get tamiflu?
Hello Sam.
Sorry to run but I’ll be back in a little bit.
I know the V movie was produced by liberals, but that’s what’s funny. They are supporting the Fascist now.
here’s the info blurb on the clip:
Hi Belle. I have to take advantage of this break in the weather to get outside and do some close up the yard work.
M2 I will see you later as well.
ohh yeah and we’ll will rat out rosehips as a Republican and force her to cell with us!
I will practice doing I HATE OBUTTFUK jail house tats on her!
ohiobelle says
vf, Obuttfuk?? Oh that is great! lol
Are we still cell mates or what?
Thanks for your confirmation of my backbone, VF.
I have never had the hair stand up on it like that.
SamHenry really took after Imp over food so I guess it is in the air here today. Animal though he is and understanding as I am, he got a tap on the snout and he knee I meant business.
I am proud to say I never hit my dogs or really go after them in any way. That is not how you get animals to trust. They know I am the alpha dog. They ignore that from time to time but here’s the thing: a human without animal food is a human without power. Screw the dog whisperer.
later belle, SH…. WG,
just posting a blurb:
sister in arms…
samhenry says
Thanks for your confirmation of my backbone, VF.
I have never had the hair stand up on it like that.
M2 wrote: belle was swine flu that bad? did you get tamiflu?
Yes swine flu was that bad. It was the worst I’d ever felt in my life. Yes Tamiflu made me better. I don’t know why they are not giving it out.
Belle did you see my response above to your…
ohiobelle says
vf, Obuttfuk?? Oh that is great! lol
Are we still cell mates or what?
been makin’ edits to the blogpost… dressing it up a little…
need to go fix a flu sandwich… and pour some flu cola… and take an emergency flu break
swine flu for the swine on capitol hill… perfect.
vf wrote: need to go fix a flu sandwich… and pour some flu cola… and take an emergency flu break
hahahah!! YOU NEED TO REST MY FELLOW TERRORIST OR ELSE YOU WILL DIE.. OBAMA WANTS YOU IN BED NOT ONLINE!!! IGNORE THEIR SOCIALISM..
vf wrote: ohh yeah and we’ll will rat out rosehips as a Republican and force her to cell with us!
I will practice doing I HATE OBUTTFUK jail house tats on her!
vf, I’ll get the commie chow ready and you pack the sweaters with the great big red R in the middle. lol
I’ll bring an extra sweater for rose.. lol She’ll love being a Republican.. lol
God I just love a good crisis before a bill. It just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
actually we have to pose as Democrats and infiltrate the Communists from the inside, like it took them 50 years to figure out about the gov’t…
LOL…
GO GO GO GO Team Republic!
true enough, guess the Fox News ploy has been played enough, time to scratch that one off and move to the next ploy. They’ll revisit FNC, because if communists are anything at all they’re not CREATIVE.
here’s a tweet lol,
Dear Obutthole, your portal home awaits.. Thank you for stopping by.
P.S. Take Michelle with you! You must leave no waste behind.
Michelle’s got the alien fashion down, for sure.
Just a quick remark: M2 I can’t pose as a Democrat. Just as the Lion, Scare Crow and Tin Man infiltrated the witch’s “army,” my tail will hang out from my uniform and I will be discovered for what I am lol.
This is a dumb takeoff on the symbolism in Wizard of OZ but the first frame shows the lion’s tail trailing beneath his uniform!
Ha ha ha SH!…
yep, I will pose as a Democrat, I’ll bring my reusable organic food bags and hop out of my smart car (featuring COEXIST bumper sticker) and wear my Mao/Che/O T-shirt, rub some rock crystal on my arm, and freshen up with a dab patchouli oil to get in line for my sugar water H1N1 vac, then tear off my Mao/Che/O T-shirt to reveal my Lynyrd Synrd grey skull rocker T. Reveal my firearm that was sitting in the back of smart car, while my husband rides up on our motorcycle and we ride into the sunset to fight for the Republic.
lol
I guess the conservatives showing up for their H1N1 will die on sight or be hearded into a fema camp.
lol lol
ah you gotta have some humor in RIDICULOUS TIMES such as these!
I must be the only male here today, fellow sisters in arms…
The state bird has just about bled me dry… better grab me a Guinness.
Obutthole is a true narcissist! Only a narcissist would have the nerve to take all the failed policies from overseas (health scare, tax & spend, cash for clunkers all of which FAILED overseas) and shove them down our throats!! What’s next… food restriction and trash taxing… oh yes, another tax!
Obutthole and his crisis spreading left wing radical moonbats are the biggest act of terrorism to this country.
When you hear the SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING… it’s just tax & spend finally hitting the floor.
Sam, I love the video!! I know what house I wish would be sucked up by a tornado.. lol Guess which house.. lol
Commies have been trying to do the same for decades. It’s what brings “absolute power” and destroys sovereignty.
they say it’s social justice
they say it’s ‘fairness’…
uh huh. Then why has it only brought the world’s most heinous genocides?
Obama is a vacuous soul that will be reckoned with sooner… or later.
Obutthole could be king of the Land of Oz…
M2 wrote: Commies have been trying to do the same for decades. It’s what brings “absolute power” and destroys sovereignty.
they say it’s social justice
they say it’s ‘fairness’…
I just think the Brits are thrilled Obutthole is here and not there.
I think Rushbo is right. Obama’s got eyes on the global prize. They will put us in a global gov’t like Gore is telling everyone he and everyone wants.
Obama doesn’t give a rat shit about this nation. He’s gonna throw it under the bus as soon as feesible.
That’s the hilarious thing.
Used to be people under the bus-
now it’s news organizations, whole sectors of healthcare economy, and the chamber, oh and now Democrat Deeds.
Watch out Statist-loving Dems in Congress, you and the country will be UNDER THE BUS, don’t you know?
Yep, they may be thrilled now.
But Obama’s got his eyes on the Globe.
For sure.
I feel bad that we are keeping Sir Obutthole to ourselves.. maybe we should let the Brits have him for a few hunderd years.. lol
M2 wrote: But Obama’s got his eyes on the Globe.
That’s just like our narcissist! I am will to let the world have him at no charge. This is a non returnable item!! lol
SOLD AS IS!!! LOL
GOOD LUCK WITH IT!
I think he should go back to Kenya and help his brothers in law, and practice his stale autocratic Marxist rule there… they’ve all been living with it so long, and he professes how “Vote for Change” works… I think he can really do wonders by continuing the solid African tradition of steeling from the people, hoarding the wealth in a central elite system and since Obutthead identifies so well with Muslims, he won’t be too affected the by the “ethnic” cleansing.
Marxism really helps people.
(on a side note, humor aside I mean. I cannot believe this country elected this fool of fools. It makes me want to barf projectile when I think deep about it …from time to time)
I would love to stick around and cut of Sir Obutthole but we’ve got plans this evening. I have to log off for now.
If I don’t check back tonight then I will check back tomorrow.
oh sorry I mean half-brother… his half-brothers are living off the 15 bucks a year right…
October, 2009
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M2 wrote: I think he should go back to Kenya and help his brothers in law, and practice his stale autocratic Marxist rule there… they’ve all been living with it so long, and he professes how “Vote for Change” works… I think he can really do wonders by continuing the solid African tradition of steeling from the people, hoarding the wealth in a central elite system and since Obutthead identifies so well with Muslims, he won’t be too affected the by the “ethnic” cleansing.
I’ll even buy his airline ticket out of here. 1 way!! lol
alright, I’m gonna go get my dog from the parents house, have a fun time out tonight!
sorry Foxwood for too many women on here at once. I believe Tellit takes breaks on the weekend!
Bye everybody!
love the vid!
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I think Obuttfuk has jumped the shark. If he doesn’t use this to finish his job, or fails to use it, he’s done. This has put a scare into the public today. I think this is going to wake up some blue pill sleepers.
From:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama%E2%80%99s-h1n1-emergency-declaration-is-martial-law-unfolding.html
Obama’s H1N1 Emergency Declaration: Is Martial Law Unfolding?
Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Obama has declared a 2009 H1N1 swine flu a national emergency. It is not clear if this declaration falls under the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601–1651). The act is not mentioned in media reports.
The National Emergencies Act was passed in 1976. It has been extended six times. In 2007, the declaration was strengthened with the issuance of National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51) which gave the president the authority to do whatever he deems necessary in a vaguely defined “catastrophic emergency” including everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution.
NSPD-51 (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive) is unconstitutional. It was created on May 4, 2007, as a “presidential directive” (bypassing Congress) and signed by George W. Bush. It claims the power to execute procedures for continuity of the federal government in the event of a “catastrophic emergency.” Such an emergency is construed as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.”
In other words, it is a martial law directive. On May 10, 2007, The Washington Post characterized NSPD-51 is a “shadow government” directive.
The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2007 states that the military may be used during a “national emergency.” Sec 1076 is extremely explicit, notes Michel Chossudovsky, and “virtually creates a Pinochet style environment for the mass arrest of political dissidents without trial, the storming of public rallies, etc.”
NDAA specifically mentions “epidemic” as an excuse to declare martial law.
Prior to Warner and NSPD-51, legislation passed by the Clinton administration allowed the military to intervene in judicial and civilian law enforcement activities. In 1996, legislation was passed which allowed the military to intervene in the case of a national emergency. In 1999, Clinton’s Defense Authorization Act (DAA) extended those powers (under the 1996 legislation) by creating an “exception” to the Posse Comitatus Act, which permits the military to be involved in civilian affairs “regardless of whether there is an emergency,” according to Chossudovsky.
In 2005, a month after Hurricane Rita, a so-called bird flu “crisis” was hyped by the government and the corporate media. “I am concerned about avian flu. I’m concerned about what an avian flu outbreak could mean for the United States and the world… I have thought through the scenarios of what an avian flu outbreak could mean,” Bush declared at the time. “One option is the use of a military that’s able to plan and move. So that’s why I put it on the table. I think it’s an important debate for Congress to have” (emphasis added).
Bush’s directive, signed two years later, did not bother to involve Congress in the “debate.”
Obama’s declaration of a national emergency sets the stage for forced vaccination and internment of people who refuse to be vaccinated.
In January, the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645) was introduced in Congress. It calls for the establishment of six national emergency centers in major regions in the US to be located on existing military installations to be used to quarantine people in the case of a public health emergency or forced vaccination program. HR 645 remains in committee.
The H1N1 “crisis” is a manufactured crisis. As noted earlier today, a CBS investigative report reveals that H1N1 flu cases are not as prevalent as we are told by the government, the CDC, WHO, and the corporate media. The so-called epidemic is bogus.
Millions of people are refusing to take the H1N1 vaccine. In the weeks ahead — if Obama’s emergency declaration falls under the above directives — we may witness a move toward martial law, forced vaccination, and internment of those who refuse.
At best, Obama’s declaration is a flimsy attempt to scare people into taking the toxic soft kill vaccination. Let’s hope this is the case.
Hello all… I’m back
I think Obama declaring Swine Flu National Emergency is liken to the Balloon Boy Hoax.
Arlene, I think this is a precursor to something to come.
Foxwood
Though I can not verify this, but I was talking to some kin folks in Houston who told me that the neighborhood clinics have been shutting down. Pro-bono doctors have discontinued medical practice to the poor.
Kin Folks said that no one has told them about getting any swine flu shots & that if they did the folks in the “hood” will not be able to get it. And the ones who would opt to receive it can not get it because the government has closed down the free clinics.
The free clinics WERE prevalent all over the black neighborhoods. They closed down WITHOUT notice.
I will do some calling around to see if that is the same here. That’s not right. Probably won’t know anything till monday morning.
It was also reported to me that a welfare hospital – Lyndon B. Johnson (in Houston) is flooded w/folks laying on the floors & coughing w/OUT face masks. I was informed that majority can not speak English but that a translator said the words: “we want swine flu shot”. And that the hospital folks are telling walk-ins that anyone w/the symptoms must leave the premises. The hospital security guards are afraid to touch the folks to evict them from premises.
So the word is, that the welfare hospitals in inter-cities are NOT safe.
I also want to report the question I was asked.
The question is:
1. If Obama declared a National Emergency regarding the Swine Flu, then why is it that the hospitals are refusing to give walk-ins a face mask? LBJ hospital is telling folks that the face masks are reserved for hospital staff only.
2. Another question I was asked by Houston folks is: Why is it that in the predominately minority schools, there are NO hand sanitizers. I was told that the schools are telling the kids that they must bring their own hand sanitizers from home.
It is also reported to me that as of 12pm today, on the corner of Lyons & Lockwood in Houston, the Walgreens Store removed ALL hand sanitizers & face masks off the shelf. It was overheard that Walgreens pharmacy depart. were instructed to remove these off the shelf because the “medical industry” were coming to pick them up.
Foxwood
There are no welfare hospitals where I live. But if I felt spirited enough I would take a drive to Dallas to check out what’s going on.
I wish my folks knew how to operate the video feature of their cell phones, so they can send it to me. I for damn sure would post it.
I’m trying to find info on other cities, Arlene. So far none.
Quick drive-by.
Check this one out, hmmmmmm? fishy?
The White House has told Congress it will reject calls for many of
President Obama’s policy czars to testify before Congress – a decision
senators said goes against the president’s promises of transparency and
openness and treads on Congress' constitutional mandate to investigate
the administration’s actions.
Sen. Susan Collins, Maine Republican, said White House counsel Greg
Craig told her in a meeting Wednesday that they will not make available
any of the czars who work in the White House and don’t have to go
through Senate confirmation. She said he was “murky” on whether other
czars outside of the White House would be allowed to come before
Congress.
Miss Collins said that doesn’t make sense when some of those cza
Miss Collins said that doesn’t make sense when some of those czars are
actually making policy or negotiating on behalf of Mr. Obama.
Hi, Arlene. Good to see you.
As for the kids and hand sanitizers. Those prooducts have a high rate of alcohol in them. That’s not good for kids but beyond that, for several years now, there has been discussion that hand sanitizers and soaps with sanitizers are making kids more not less susceptible to infection. They need to build up resistance. Thorough washing of hands with soap and water is still a good thing. You have to do it long enough I have a certificate in food prep procedures). When you wash your hands, sing happy birthday to yourself. When you finish, you’ve killed most of the germs.
As for masks, etc. I have heard requests not to hoard them. But people will anyway. Building this fear into people is just senseless.
I remember when we were supposed to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting to keep us safe from chemical warfare. So I’m left with a lot of duct tape and drop cloths!
As FOX might say. Hey, Obama, take all the masks – take anything you want, “it’s swine with me.”
Fishy, Sami? All the Presidents horses and all the Presidents men smell funky. If fact, so does Obutthole.
Hi/bye Sami
Hi Arlene,
Extremely interesting and sad information you have brought for us.
If ever there were proof the communists don’t care about people, what you have related is proof.
shutting down free clinics… and the rest.
That burns me up
Samiam… there will be a reckoning for all this… they think they would do a CIA witch hunt? What is going to happen to them will make the Salem Witch Trials will look like Saturday morning cartoons.
These folks act like there will never be an accounting…
samiam60 says
Miss Collins said that doesn’t make sense when some of those czars are
actually making policy or negotiating on behalf of Mr. Obama.
There may be a a move to shield information…
the networks seem to have gone silent on the subject for the most part…
I confirmed the order is legitimate and that networks received copies of the order.
There may be a trap that prevents networks investigating and openly debating this order.
Foxwood says
I’m trying to find info on other cities, Arlene. So far none.
VF, what Arlene has said also reminds me that in the Healthcare bill they are putting all those Planned Parenthoods and abortion services into low-income, impoverished communities.
Like more than has ever been before, that is virtually unthinkable how much abortion they are forcing on the poor communities!
Building centers sell masks… and heave duty facial filters and cartridge replacements.
Obama is the last person who should be driving the bus… this burns me up.
samhenry says
As for masks, etc. I have heard requests not to hoard them. But people will anyway. Building this fear into people is just senseless.
I remember when we were supposed to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting to keep us safe from chemical warfare. So I’m left with a lot of duct tape and drop cloths!
As FOX might say. Hey, Obama, take all the masks – take anything you want, “it’s swine with me.”
What the government failed for days to do then the madness they pulled… in the Katrina Aftermath is proof that they are the last ones who should be running the show in a national emergency….
The private sector can do a much better job of it and the govt should act as a warehouse supplies of goods and materials.
Private sector – yes, CAT. Remember when the first or second Desert Storm occurred, we sent a private firm over to put out the oil well fires?
I missed something. Did Arlene say the government was shutting down free clinics?
YES.
Government Bureaucracy is not a SOLUTION.
and yet they are still peddling healthcare “reform” with reform meaning no reform, just federal expansion.
As for health care coverage, in my latest post, I found out that Canada provides free medical help to non-cits and they are considered a model. Well aside from Mexico, the US has no closer friend. So guess what? We WILL have public health care.
well i’m shutting computer down…
have a good night all…
Nite M2
We are just being jerked around. The Administration is just firing off these rounds of disinformation as if it were wartime.
It is too close to Halloween. I am suspicious of every shadow.
I have never seen an administration that put so much “stuff” out there – legislation, opinions, appointments – fears, etc. They want to overwhelm all the media and info outlets. That is part of their ability to control – to be able to outflank!
I think I’ll call it stun gun politics.
And I thought this was going to be a slow obama day this morning… geez
good one SamHenry
samhenry says
I think I’ll call it stun gun politics.
President Obama Declares N1H1 Flu National Emergency
Wise Move, Power Play or Over-Reaction?
President Obama has declared the N1H1 flu a national emergency. There are mixed feelings across the nation about Obama declaring a national emergency. By putting the N1H1 flu in the category of national emergency, it has given certain additional powers to the government.
Michael D. Shear and Rob Stein have put up an article in the
President Obama Declares N1H1 Flu National Emergency
Date: October 24, 2009
Wahington D.C., DC
United States of America
Washington Post titled “President Obama declares H1N1 flu a national emergency.”
Why are some people happy about the move?
Apparently 95 children have already died from this strain of flu. It seems that pregnant women and children are at the highest risk and it would make sense that older people are as well.
The fact that 95 children have already died is a legitimate concern because that is already more than all children who die in a regular flu season.
In by-passing certain federal mandates it may help with the availability of vaccine and also allow less attention to protocol when treating people at hospitals.
Why are some people angry about the move?
Mandates are put in place for reasons including the health of people while being treated in a health care facility.
There is a concern about what other powers Obama may try and employ during a “national emergency.” This is a particularly prickly point right now because Obama’s rating has plummeted and he is failing at getting most of his programs passed.
Further it allows for changes in implementation of Medicare, Medicaid, and other disability programs.
Perhaps the greatest irritation comes from the wording causing great consternation. While there are 20,000 people that have been hospitalized with the flu, it is also true that it is a manageable flu.
The government said there would be about 40 million doses of vaccine and there have only been 16 million doses available at this point.
What does it mean to us, truly?
I can only offer my opinion. I think that it is an over-reaction by the Obama administration. I think they are looking bad because of the failure represented by the deliverance of so few doses of vaccine and this will give them a way to do so without having to “jump through hoops.”
from: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2320068/president_obama_declares_n1h1_flu_national.html
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The Official Obutthole Proclamation of the Official State of National Emergency
SamI said:
“Miss Collins said that doesn’t make sense when some of those czars are actually making policy or negotiating on behalf of Mr. Obama.”
________________
Collins should had known better. She’s a sell-out, just like Snowe. Lindsay Graham & McCain seem like they are also getting sucked in. I hear that Newt Gingrich is getting outted as a sell-out.
Health Information Privacy
The Office for Civil Rights enforces the HIPAA Privacy Rule, which protects the privacy of individually identifiable health information, and the confidentiality provisions of the Patient Safety Rule, which protect identifiable information being used to analyze patient safety events and improve patient safety.
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) Privacy Rule
Learn about the Privacy Rule’s protection of the privacy of individually identifiable health information, the rights granted to individuals, OCR’s enforcement activities, and how to file a complaint with OCR.
Well Hipaa Hipaa Horay, CAT. A speed bump to the Administration medical records grab.
I know in my bones and I have read out there somewhere on the web that Medicare may be paying for things never conceived if an emergency comes along. I am so mad.
I’m Medicaire Mad and Bureaucracy blue!
There isn’t anything Anyone Can do
America and freedom have gone down the tubes
Sent there warp speed by a bunch of boobs.
Hi Arlene,
Newt Gingrich is backing a far left GOP RINO Dede Scozzafava for NJ US House Seat and given her $85,ooo dollars from the GOP coffers.
Sarah Palin is blocking Gingrich by backing and donating to the Independent candidate, Doug Hoffman, who is by far the most conservative candidate in that race.
Newt is getting real heat from conservatives for backing a Socialist RINO.
from: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/22/palin-endorses-in-new-york-race-while-pawlenty-holds-back-2/
Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty, two Republicans widely viewed as possible 2012 White House hopefuls, weighed in Thursday night on the closely-watched special election in New York’s 23rd congressional district. They chose very different approaches – but neither endorsed the GOP candidate.
Calling it a matter of principle, Palin – the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate – bucked her party and enthusiastically endorsed Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman over Republican Dede Scozzafava. The race has attracted national attention, especially from grassroots activists who accuse Scozzafava of not being conservative enough to run under the Republican party mantle.
“Doug Hoffman stands for the principles that all Republicans should share: smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense, and a commitment to individual liberty,” the former Alaska governor wrote on her Facebook page. “Political parties must stand for something.”
Palin then urged her supporters to donate to Hoffman, who she said “has not been anointed by any political machine.”
Just minutes before she made the announcement, Pawlenty happened to be speaking to reporters in Washington after a fundraiser for his new political action committee. The Minnesota governor refused to make an endorsement when asked about the race.
“You know I haven’t been following that, I haven’t studied the race at all,” he said. “It’s not that I would or wouldn’t, I just don’t know anything about it. I haven’t taken the time to study their positions, their records, so I haven’t taken a position on it.”
The Minnesota governor did venture to make a prediction in two other high-profile campaigns, the Virginia and New Jersey governor’s races. Pawlenty predicted victory for Republicans, but quickly hedged on New Jersey.
“I think we’re going to win them both,” he said. “In New Jersey, I don’t want to get ahead of ourselves. But it sure looks like Republicans are going to win in Virginia. New Jersey’s going to be a closer call, but that’s also a tougher state for Republicans. But if the election were held today I think we’d win them both.”
Scozzafava and Hoffman are on the ballot along with Democrat Bill Owens. Election Day is November 3.
for more info, see my blogpost…
https://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2009/10/23/sarah-palin-just-say-no-to-rinos-backs-doug-hoffman/
A traffic light is installed after a fatal accident at an intersection…
we have been warning of what Obama is and what he will do…
he has to just do it before folks will do something about it…
samhenry says
Well Hipaa Hipaa Horay, CAT. A speed bump to the Administration medical records grab.
I know in my bones and I have read out there somewhere on the web that Medicare may be paying for things never conceived if an emergency comes along. I am so mad.
I’m Medicaire Mad and Bureaucracy blue!
There isn’t anything Anyone Can do
America and freedom have gone down the tubes
Sent there warp speed by a bunch of boobs.
Good summary of the sit-iation, CAT – “a graffic light is installed after a fatal accident at an intersection…”
SH
This swine flu scare is a farce. This is the most mess-up ordeal I have heard in my life time. Rahm Emanual said never let a disaster go to waste. Well, Obama is creating a disaster.
CDC knew of high alcohol content in the sanitizers from get-go & when they 1st mandated that it be used in all elementary schools. It was not until TODAY that the alcohol was mentioned on the news. And all of a sudden the kids MUST take it w/adult supervision.
Several months prior, all schools & day care centers were required to have sanitizers. Earlier on, when CDC said that mostly kids were dying from swine flu, all the schools got the sanitizers. But schools in impoverished neighborhoods slacked on providing it about 3 weeks ago. 1 week ago, they just stop providing it & sent note home w/the kids for parents to provide the sanitizer.
The catch 22 is that:
1. If sanitizer must be used w/adult supervision, then why would schools require parents to send the kid to school w/sanitizer;
2. they are ordered to not return to school if they have cold-like symptoms – due to swine flu suspect;
3. But they are also told they can’t stay home sick too long w/out a note from school nurse; but they it was discovered that a lot of elementaray schools DO NOT have school nurses;
4. Then they decided that the kid must get note from Dr.; but neighborhood free clinics have recently shut down. So now the kid cant get Dr. note;
3. Then parent gets desperate & takes kid to ER; but ER says NO can do!! because the ER wont take anyone suspected of having swine flu (unless the kid is running extreme high fever) & darn near unconsciousness;
Again, I say this is an Obama-created farce.
VF
Moreso the reason why I will no longer donate to Newt.
VF
Moreso the reason why I will no longer donate to Newt. I have made excuses to myself by donating to him every month when his office calls this house. That is going to change.. My pocket book is closed to Newt.
As for as Virginia is concerned, Obama needs to tell the truth. The reason why Deeds is gonna lose is because Obama tried to put the squeeze on the Virginian Black powers-to-be. And they showed Obama whose the boss, by kicking Obama under the bus. Meaning, that they are sending a strong message to Obama & not Deeds.
Obama sent that Gasperd dude (what ever his name is) to Virginia to crack down on Wilder. But Wilder refused to endorse Deeds. And you know how the BET Johnson family feels about Obama. Those blacks in Virginia have turned Republican & Obama is trying to blame it on Deeds.
VF said:
“I can only offer my opinion. I think that it is an over-reaction by the Obama administration.”
____________
And Obama is trying to create an over-reaction & public panic.
VF
Also regarding Hoffman, I hear that Romney & Huckabee have not yet endorsed. I think they are trying to steer clear of this mess that Newt stepped into. They don’t wanna buck Palin.
Ar;eme – your knowledge of these things is amazing. Thanks for the overview. You have a very sophisticated view of these issues.
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The following is evidence of a school giving a kid swine flu vaccine against parent’s wishes. And the kid has some health issues.
SH
Hubby sometimes say that I’m too raw & crude in my speech & way of thinking 😦
Good Morning my Fellow Patriots
Good morning Sami
I’m swine how are you?
Arlene – to answer your 12:52 PM comment you are not raw or crude that I have seen only forceful and someone of conviction. You also know that of what you speak!
“you also know about that of which you speak” – correct ssentence.
“Hubby sometimes say that I’m too raw & crude in my speech & way of thinking”
My kind of speech and thinking, Arlene! You speak truth. That’s what’s important.
Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!
I told you that cannon could TP a tree!
Cannons can’t cook bacon, but they can TP a tree!
Good Morning Samiam! and SamHenry!
Good Morning Foxwood!
From:
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/10/24/america-in-the-midst-of-two-major-national-emergencies/
A Los Angeles Fire Department official is administered the H1N1 vaccine at a public health clinic in Encino, Calif. on Friday.
Terror threat plus H1N1 flu emergency could test Constitutional protections.
By Patrik Jonsson | Staff writer/ October 24, 2009 edition
Just over a month after extending the 9/11 national emergency for another year, President Obama announced another federal emergency on Saturday over the worsening H1N1, or swine flu situation.
The President’s proclamation — “The 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic in the United States constitutes a national emergency,” it reads — allows the government to give healthcare providers legal waivers as a means to better handle a flood of new patients.
The White House said the dramatic language isn’t based on any new findings, but is intended simply to allow greater flexibility for healthcare providers.
But news about H1N1 has steadily worsened in recent days as the flu, which authorities say threatens mostly children, young people, and pregnant women, is now widespread in 46 states and has caused 411 confirmed deaths and over 8,000 hospitalizations, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Delays in distribution of the new H1N1 vaccine is also worrying many Americans.
“The H1N1 is moving rapidly, as expected. By the time regions or healthcare systems recognize they are becoming overburdened, they need to implement disaster plans quickly,” White House spokesman Reid Cherlina explained to the Washington Post.
The US has been under near constant national emergency since the Korean War. Presidential emergency declarations go back to the founding of the Republic and have included the Whiskey Rebellion and the Great Depression. The political philosopher John Locke believed that not just war and natural disasters but simply the “common good” could be a good enough reason to impose an emergency.
Indeed, most declared emergencies have less to do with real threats to Americans and more to do, for example, with trade or, as in one current emergency, an import ban on rough diamonds from Sierra Leone.
Emergency powers under President Bush’s declaration shortly after 9/11 have been credited with successfully interdicting terrorist cells. But civil libertarians argue the Bush administration crossed Constitutional lines with some of its interrogation and communications interdiction initiatives.
Presidents are technically not allowed to waive any right but habeas corpus during an emergency. But their legal powers extend farther than that, and these have largely gone unchecked by Congress or the courts.
“When the President formally declares a national emergency, he may seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communication, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel and, in a variety of ways, control the lives of United States citizens,” writes Harold Relyea, a specialist in national government with the Congressional Research Service, an arm of the Library of Congress.
The reform-minded National Emergencies Act of 1976 intended to formalize executive branch emergency powers and force declarations to automatically lapse after a year. But the standard operating procedure has been for presidents to simply renew ongoing emergencies year after year.
President Obama’s swine flu declaration is the 33rd national emergency declaration since 1976.
Read this part again!
“When the President formally declares a national emergency, he may seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communication, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel and, in a variety of ways, control the lives of United States citizens.”
Good morning Sam, Sam, VF!
I think Newt and others want to grow the GOP membership… but stocking the pond with socialists will destroy the GOP forever.
They have lost sight of the real problem… Bush was too socialistic and so what his father. The Iraq war was only part of a problem, not the entire reason people got po’ed at him thus the GOP…
Turning the GOP into Socialism Lite is NOT THE ANSWER.
And as for your hubby getting down on you… some folks want to water down others to fit their own method of operation. You and I are our own persons… and while some criticize folks like us who have passion, my thinking is… I will take it under advisement but in the end I do things as I do things and let others do it their way… just don’t pull any holier than thou stuff… cause I am me.
arlenearmy says
VF
Moreso the reason why I will no longer donate to Newt.
In my opinion, Arlene has one of the most powerful voices and valid points of view I have seen… and for that and other reasons, she is among those for whom I have enormous respect.
We may be a small group here… and we may squabble amongst ourselves from time to time, but I could not hand pick a finer group of patriots to be a part of.
The GOP can not grow by creating socialist plantations for minority communities, in my opinion. Rather, to appeal to those trapped in the socialist plantations owned by the DEM party, who are conservative thinkers who want to be a part of society not an isolated community fighting with society…
Race minorities
Women
Sexual minorities
are all cultivated as communities of victims to be shepherded and and tended to like dumb animals… that is the Socialist/Communist way to create radical coalitions of power with which to tear down society rather than improving it. The communists are the enemy of all and to that end destruction is their game.
Morning VF, Sam, SH, fox…
Call it raw crude, or plain spoken fact- it is a strong trait of the conservative movement. Voices like thus cut through the garbage of personal defamation which now seems to be the primary tenant of Obama/Liberal debate.
Foxwood/Arlene say:
Foxwood says:
October 25, 2009 at 8:04 am
“Hubby sometimes say that I’m too raw & crude in my speech & way of thinking”
My kind of speech and thinking, Arlene! You speak truth. That’s what’s important.
95% of children die?
My friends have a 3 & 5 year old and say they have swine flu…
There is no one single way of doing things… and one way is not more or less valid than another.
With that said… there are limitations placed on certain positions in society…. Obama is president, thus he is using the wrong Method of Operation from that position. He can not successfully use an anger based MO like the one I use… it will not work for a sitting president.
What I do is gutter fighting… were I president I would not dream of using the MO I employ on this Blog. It would be political suicide in the end.
I am a private citizen blogger… he is president… two different realities.
I like and respect Charles Karuthammer and his approach and methods of expression… It reaches, and resonates with, intellectuals and elitists.
But the mass majority of voters are not intellectuals and elitists and his approach does not resonate with them as it does with a select few who are power players in politics.
There is a broad spectrum of approaches of political pundits and all of them together covers all the bases.
Obama has to be constricted to a particular method of operation suited to his place in the order of things and he has not yet figured that out.
I pay attention to what Krauthhammer says… and when we are in agreement, I will reflect the same thinking he does… but using my own personal methods of doing so.
I am a provocateur… it is my M.O. and thus my anger is used to advantage rather than it be a liability.
I subscribe to Charles’ RSS Feed…
Following is a sample of Charles Krauthammer’s Method of Operation.
It is his blogpost on the ‘Fox Wars’ that exist between the White House and a News Network…
from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/22/AR2009102203801.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns
This is a fine group of Patriots here. I enjoy each and every one of you gals and guys.
Exelent article by Charles. I usually do watch Special Report after Glenn’s show. I do miss Brit, tho.
What I do not respect is personal attacks. Obama is bringing the personal to this office. It is the sole reason many of his supporters can’t see reason or wish to censor instead of accept differing views from their own.
It is one thing to fight Obama fire with fire, but the real gutter IMO is when I visit a Fox page and an Obama troll is calling everyone there racists. I nearly barged on Friday, seeing this personal attack on private citizen and it’s like they have learned from Soros 7 years of nurturing personal hate politics, and from Obama’s own lead alynsky politics… Like a mass of unthinking barbaric sheep.
I think these ppl are the segregationist and white seperatists of our time.
That is why I don’t respect most of the liberals on ireport.
Krauthammer is amazing, but even he at times fails to comprehend the extremism of Obama.
The atmosphere is very Stalinist, and the Obama cult of personality is v. much the same….
The window of the obligatory “benefit of the doubt” which the polite afford any new president… has essentially expired M2.
IF Obama was interested in a Madisonian approach as opposed to a Nixonian approch, he would not be doing what he is doing.
It is obvious to me we have a Presidential Communist Tyrant on our hands. And he does what he does to achieve an end… Fundamentally Transform America from what it is to what He Wants It To Be.
We are a politically polite nation at the higher ranks… what a troll comments on an article is symptomatic of a radical inspired divide but not a game changer.
I see a new future where the gloves are coming off… and a fight fire with fire situation, instigated by Obama & Co, will force it to happen.
Sarah Palin is more than willing to fight fire with fire even to her own detriment if need be. That is why she is feared so much. Newt Gingrich, et al, have a stake in the game and will make deals behind closed doors for the sake of their own political hides.
The wild card all the elites on the left and right failed to see is We The People.
We are standing up to both parties and their game playing self-serving bull shit.
Efforts to enact Obama Political Censorship of Dissenting Voices on the Internet, FOX News, Talk Radio, is already under way.
It is necessary for a Government Takeover by Communism.
Suppress the networking of the masses.
Btw VF you do excetional work! I think there are enough Krauthammer like bloggers to cover the bases… I like fresh approaches that fight without shame!
Do we see Barney Frank apologizing for being an unabashed loud Leftist?
We need ppl to come out hard and strong without fear (feigning subtle nuances) like Beck says!!
Hi VF,M2,SamH, Arlene, Foxwood, I am trying hard to keep up with what has been going and all of your comments and insights. I have been ill for a couple of weeks now and seem to be getting worse.
I was at an emergency room 3 Sunday’s ago and am waiting for my “Follow Up” appointment which is at the VA Hospital on November 2nd. That’s the earliest they can get me in.
We are living is historic times… we are the Minute Men of the 21 century… we use words to exchange thoughts, not bullets.
This may turn out to be as significant a period of our nation as the period of the Revolutionary War of 1776 and the initial founding of our country and it’s Constitution.
This is why I am unapologitic in my methods and will not accept peer suppression. I believe in what I am doing and how I do it.
I am acting in the role …of a political Shock and Awe In Their FACEer… for lack of a better phrase.
m2 says
Btw VF you do exceptional work! I think there are enough Krauthammer like bloggers to cover the bases… I like fresh approaches that fight without shame!
Do we see Barney Frank apologizing for being an unabashed loud Leftist?
We need ppl to come out hard and strong without fear (feigning subtle nuances) like Beck says!!
Arlene said:
“Hubby sometimes say that I’m too raw & crude in my speech & way of thinking”
Arlene you dear sweet lady,
Your vocabulary is the same as we all used Pre-Political Correctness. The Libs gave us that to silence a great many folks. We all speak like you here on this blog and I find your comments and opinions refreshing to say the least.
FREE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH and should be left alone. It is how we communicate.
This blog gets noticed…
case in point… see this link:
http://beta.thoora.com/f/14354112
SAM!!! how terrible! Do you think you have swine flu!!!?
You seem to get worse you say- what are your symptoms?
“very Stalinist, and the Obama cult of personality”
The first usage of “cult of pesonality” was Nikita Khrushchev against Stalin.
It’s nice to know that our government wants to emulate the VA hospitals, Sami. They do such a good job for our veterans…
Sorry for the sarcasm, Sami. Hope you get well soon.
Krauthammer is good at what he does. He’s probably the best at what he does. Creativity does not go unnoticed by those who seek to CONTROL and accumulate POWER.
But there will always be creative Americans, who are capitalistic in their individual approach to fighting the forces of Fascism and Redistributionism.
The Statists only tactic is SMEAR.
and had normal people checked out Rush Limbaugh, or listened to Sarah Palin, or tuned into Fox News, or read Krauthammer op-eds in WaPo… etc etc… I think they will see that there is a difference between personal defamation kooks Maddow, Olbermann… and the context that individual thinkers exist in, it’s not at all what Media Matters has painted for them.
on a side note, isn’t it weird that Media Matters and Maddow/Olberman only exist to recast what they call “right wing”…. like as a non-conservative, I would think that’s fishy as hell. I would be individual enough, I’d hope to go to the source and see with my own eyes.
Interesting link VF, your blog is getting picked up alright!
here’s my answer to media matters… lol…
and this one isn’t owned by a Republican like Hillary Clinton owns MM.
http://newsbusters.org/
lol…
VF, You have taught me well. It is to your credit that this has come to pass:
http://beta.thoora.com/?c=searcher&q=SamHenry
COOL. SH!
SH, and VF AND Lisa are all from moderate Democrat, or Moderate Independent backgrounds…
but you guys have decided to check out the news Obama doesn’t want you to view, and have made your own conclusions without the help of Maddow or Olbermann or John Stewart of Comedy Central.
Freedom of the press is why Americans can be discriminating in what they choose to check out or not.
Anti-Free Bureaucrats want to mold the press into 1 message, WH approved. What happens when a Republican wins the office? Are the Obama-Democrats and Liberals who are on Obama’s side against FNC going to yell and kick and scream?
Or do they just not think beyond the tip of their nose?
Or worse yet, I believe Obama knows there never will be another party in office. Because all that he is doing right now is trying to cement the groundwork for 1-party domination.
I always said 1-party domination on ireport and the Obama-liberals scoffed and laughed at me (numbersdude, Tsakonas, NERanger).
1-party domination is the nice way of saying
Dictatorship.
It is apparent around the internet, prolific even. That I am not alone in this thinking.
Oct. 21 (Bloomberg) — McDonald’s Corp.,Burger King Holdings Inc. and Friendly Ice Cream Corp. were accused in a lawsuit of selling chicken they know contains a chemical that can cause cancer even in small amounts.
McDonald’s, the world’s biggest restaurant company, and the other dining chains were sued today in state court in Hartford, Connecticut. The complaint, filed by Washington-based Cancer Project on behalf of two Connecticut residents, seeks class- action, or group, status on behalf of people who bought or ate the grilled chicken from October 2006 to this month.
“We’re not looking to have them stop selling the product,” Daniel Kinburn, a lawyer with the Cancer Project, said in a phone interview. “The product is a legal though dangerous product that should be sold with a warning, like a chainsaw.”
A similar suit against seven restaurant chains in 2006 and another against Yum! Brands Inc.’s KFC unit last month were filed in California. That state listed the chemical, PhIP, which forms during the grilling process, as a known carcinogen in 1994, according to the complaint.
“At McDonald’s we have some of the highest food safety standards in the industry,” Cynthia Goody, director of nutrition at the company, said in an e-mailed statement. “There is no scientific evidence to suggest the small amount of PhIP that can be created as a byproduct of cooking methods humans have employed for thousands of years poses a health risk.”
‘No Merit’
“Burger King Corp. believes the lawsuit filed in Connecticut by the Washington-based Cancer Project has no merit,” the company said in an e-mailed statement. “The compound referred to in the lawsuit, PhIP, is a naturally occurring by-product of the normal cooking process and is produced when any poultry, meat or fish is broiled, fried or grilled. There is no evidence that the small amount of PhIP contained in food poses a significant health risk.”
“We ensure that we meet or exceed all guidelines and regulations for food preparation and safety,” Maura Tobias, a spokeswoman for Friendly’s, said in an e-mailed statement. “Very low levels of PhIP occur naturally when any meat is grilled, including cooking at home.”
The companies “concealed the presence of a known carcinogen in their grilled-chicken products to retain profits that would be lost, in whole or in part, as a result of properly informed consumers choosing other food products,” the residents said in their complaint.
California Settlement
Burger King settled the first suit and agreed to post warnings in its California restaurants, Kinburn said. The company wouldn’t agree to a national settlement, he said. The case is otherwise unresolved, he said. KFC was sued separately because it added grilled chicken to its menu in April, he said.
“Dozens of studies show even relatively small amounts of PhIP can increase the risk of various forms of cancer,” Kinburn said.
The residents who filed the Connecticut suit, Rebecca Delio, of Stamford, and Mary-Ann Ellison, of Meriden, want the court to force the companies to include warnings in their restaurants, menus and advertisements that the food is known to contain chemicals that cause cancer.
Delio ate grilled chicken from one of the three companies’ restaurants once a week, and Ellison four times a month at a McDonald’s in Wallingford, according to the complaint. Both stopped buying the grilled chicken about a year ago when they learned of the cancer risk, they said in the complaint.
‘A Possibility’
Delio, 66, was diagnosed with breast cancer a year ago, she said in a phone interview. She can’t blame her diagnosis on eating grilled chicken, she said. “It’s a possibility,” she said, adding that cancer runs in her family.
“I happen to like grilled chicken,” Delio said. “I checked it out on the Internet, and I learned that this is true, that grilled stuff is really no good for you.”
Ellison’s boyfriend was diagnosed with colon cancer, Kinburn said. He has other medical issues and the couple turned to grilled-chicken salads for what they thought would be healthful meals, the lawyer said.
Ellison doesn’t have cancer, Kinburn said. She didn’t immediately return a call for comment.
“Outside of the scientific oncology community and upper management of national restaurant chains, few people are aware of the presence of PhIP in grilled, flame-grilled or barbequed chicken,” Delio and Ellison said in their complaint.
Poultry Industry
The fast-food companies and the poultry industry mislead consumers into thinking that grilled chicken is healthier than beef, they said.
Oak Brook, Illinois-based McDonald’s offerings include Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich and Premium Bacon Ranch Salad With Grilled Chicken. Miami-based Burger King, the largest U.S. hamburger seller after McDonald’s, sells Tendergrill Chicken Sandwich and Tendergrill Chicken Garden Salad.
Wilbraham, Massachusetts-based Friendly’s is owned by the private-equity firm Sun Capital Partners Inc. in Boca Raton, Florida. The restaurant chain sells Grilled Chicken Deluxe Sandwich, BBQ Chicken Platter and Cheddar Jack Chicken with Grilled Chicken.
Rick Maynard, a spokesman for KFC, said when the California suit was filed against it that its grilled chicken meets all regulations for food safety. California’s attorney general determined in 2006 that the state’s Proposition 65 doesn’t require a warning for PhIP in chicken, Maynard said.
Yum Brands! is based in Louisville, Kentucky.
McDonald’s fell 59 cents to $58.33 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading at 4:15 p.m. Burger King rose 17 cents to $18.18.
The case is Delio v. McDonald’s Corp., Connecticut Superior Court (Hartford).
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aH1MWERjUvpI
Others of our group that have a couple of articles on:
http://beta.thoora.com/?c=searcher&q=ohiobelle
VF – want a laugh or cry? One of your articles was filed under my name. Must be I was talking too much on the blog!
Doesn’t this process take place when grilling chicken at home also? Will we be having grilling police roam the neighborhoods? When will the bullshit stop?
Guys
Remember VF said you really need to blog more? Thoora really wants up to the minute blog posts. So get in there and blog. Here is their about page:
The current approach to online news is a pyramid in which a news event attracts traditional media coverage. This is quickly followed by reactions from bloggers and other social media tools. This creates buzz, or a social reaction.
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We start by using our proprietary algorithm, clustering and ranking technology to identify what’s attracting the most buzz by indexing the entire blogosphere – putting the spotlight on new voices that often don’t get the attention they deserve by taking into account the originality, quality, and relevance of blog posts. We also explore what’s happening on Twitter, which provides more “signals” about what people are talking about.
We then identify the mainstream news stories that attracted the most interest within the blogosphere. Finally, our technology blends the two sources to provide a take on “the news” that’s more unique and relevant than anything other place on the Web.
We think this is a better way to discover the news because it puts the spotlight on what lots of people are talking about. It could be news that happened an hour ago or something that took place a few days ago – as long as it’s attracting buzz, we put it in the spotlight.
Recency may not always be key. When they first find you, they may keep your older stuff. OhioBelle has an article on there from 2004.
yeah I don’t know. I don’t particularly eat grilled stuff with black char on it, not even marshmallows. I thought that was what had carcinogens…
fast food grilled stuff never has the black char does it?
My mom does a double-whammy, she puts hot dogs (lips and butts) in the over and chars it on purpose. That’s how she likes it!
whoops I mean “oven”…
FOC – Obama is chillin’ ’bout your grillin’. He knows you do it guuuuuuuuud!
I finally have a desktop computer (today!) so blogging will commence.
M2 – thanks for the chicken warning. McDonald’s owns my most favorite chain, Chipolte.
FOX – stop grilling.
World, stop grilling over those little fires in the jungles and elsewhere.
Hey – this is getting to be too much.
been sidelined dealing with hub and his sick computer… poor guy is beside himself… I am afraid it is DOA and in need of a computer surgeon. sigh…
Oh VF! “beside himself” that is exactly how I felt when mine stopped working.
We do not realize how much of our work and lives exist on our computers!
“Remember VF said you really need to blog more?”
My problem is time… especially with the research related items.
About the h1n1 vaccine.
Because I have very bad lungs, I have to have it.
And I believe kids and pregnant women should have it.
But dang, I worked in the Pharma industry for 10 years. I don’t know what the FDA was thinking to allow this vaccine to go public without clinical trials.
I will also say this, a drug can pass on 4 or more clinical trials (usually I think 3 is the minimum) but the “last” clinical trial is really the public. You really need a large, diverse population. Did you know there are some drugs that are only truly effective in certain ethnic groups. For example, some drugs are tested only in Japan.
SamH said:
“Stop grilling!”
Too late… grills already started. It’s my daughters birthday, but I always grill on Sunday. 🙂
Bacon wrapped and greasy. Just like I like it.
“poor guy is beside himself…”
Then can’t he split the work up between himselves?
i don’t know what to think about vaccines…
My problem is stuff like this:
http://it.truveo.com/id/1726718983
Merk drug company vaccines admits injecting cancer viruses
and
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/gardasil_shows_why_government.html
Gardasil Shows Why Government Health Care is Dangerous
Health Canada gave its stamp of approval to this country’s H1N1 vaccine without evaluating its safety and effectiveness in a single Canadian, the Citizen has learned.
Instead, the federal drug regulator approved the pandemic vaccine based on the results of a small clinical trial conducted in Belgium.
The study involved 130 healthy adults, aged 18 to 60, who were inoculated with the same version of Canada’s vaccine, which is produced by GlaxoSmithKline under the trade name Arepanrix. The vaccine used in the Belgian study was manufactured by GSK in Germany. Canada’s vaccine is produced in Ste-Foy, Que.
Health Canada officials released the information late Friday, in response to questions from the Citizen about what scientific evidence was used to establish the safety and effectiveness of the H1N1 vaccine.
“Data from a clinical trial conducted in Belgium, using the same version of the vaccine produced by GSK in Dresden, Germany, was reviewed, as was initial safety data from European and Japanese studies using the Quebec-produced vaccine Arepanrix,” Health Canada spokeswoman Christelle Legault said in an e-mail.
Legault did not indicate how many volunteers participated in the Japanese or European studies that used the Quebec-made vaccine.
To date, Health Canada has not reviewed any data from the clinical trials being conducted in this country, said Legault.
“Canadian clinical trials, which began in October, will be used as part of ongoing work to evaluate the vaccine’s safety and effectiveness in larger and more specific populations, after the vaccine authorization takes place,” said Legault.
Since Wednesday, when Health Canada surprised many observers by approving the pandemic vaccine two weeks ahead of schedule, questions have been raised about precisely what information went into evaluating the vaccine.
Opposition parties have called on federal Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq to make public the medical evidence used to determine the safety of the H1N1 vaccine to reassure Canadians that no shortcuts were taken in the race to test and produce the pandemic flu shot.
” ‘Trust me’ is not the way to build confidence with Canadians,” said Liberal health critic Carolyn Bennett, a family physician. “Let’s be transparent about it.”
At a news conference Friday, Aglukkaq said Health Canada approved the vaccine ahead of the initial target of early November because “the international community was able to share their clinical data and work with us.”
As a result, “we had all the data that was necessary to make an informed decision on the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine by Wednesday,” said Aglukkaq.
NDP health critic Judy Wasylycia-Leis said she has repeatedly pressed Aglukkaq for the H1N1 safety data, but has not received a response.
“I was told all documents and studies around vaccines are transparent and fully available. I haven’t found them yet, and I’m still looking,” said Wasylycia-Leis.
“Where’s the hard scientific evidence showing that (they) have done the tests, independent of the drug companies? Where is the body of evidence that they’re citing?”
The questions are being raised because Canadian scientists, who started testing the Glaxo vaccine last week, have indicated it could take up to seven weeks to collect the early results from Canadian test subjects.
The situation stands in marked contrast to the U.S., where federally funded scientists last month published early results of their safety and effectiveness studies, weeks ahead of the vaccine’s approval by the Food and Drug Administration.
The ongoing studies by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases are being done in 2,800 people — a much larger sample than the 130 in the Belgian study reviewed by Health Canada.
The federal regulator also examined data on the safety and effectiveness of GSK’s squalene adjuvant, a chemical derived from fish oil that boosts the vaccine’s effectiveness.
The H1N1 vaccine is the first time Canada has approved a flu shot with the squalene adjuvant in it.
According to Legault, Health Canada had access to data from a vaccine approved in Europe for use against the H5N1 bird flu.
“A mock vaccine was developed by the manufacturer, GSK, in the pre-pandemic period between 2007 to June 2009, using an H5N1 flu virus,” said Legault.
“During this period, Health Canada conducted multiple inspections of the vaccine manufacturing facilities, validated the vaccine production process, and reviewed results from both animal and human studies with the mock vaccine.”
The squalene adjuvant used by GSK has been “tested in approximately 45,000 people around the world and has been evaluated by Health Canada and other regulatory authorities as part of the review of the H5N1 vaccine in the pre-pandemic period,” said Legault.
“No significant safety concerns regarding the use of the adjuvanted vaccine were detected.”
While each flu vaccine has its own safety tests, very rare side-effects can only be detected when millions of people take the shot. In Europe, seasonal flu vaccines that contain adjuvants have mostly been given to older people, meaning scientists are not yet sure whether these vaccines have very rare side-effects, particularly in groups with weak immune systems, such as pregnant women or children under the age of three.
© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/H1N1+vaccine+approval+based+Belgian+trial/2140149/story.html
In short, FDA approval was probably based on the Belgian clinical trial as well HOWEVER the population tested – very small and we don’t know the profiles of those tested (young, old, etc).
I did take a course in clinical trials at Temple U as well as one in FDA law in order to do the computer work I did helping to develop one of the most cutting edge databases in the pharm industry.
And then there’s the Alex Jones crowd who is a kooky blend of free-market conservatives and neo-libertarianism, new world order conspiracy theorists who have decided that the Gov’t and Big Corporation have joined forces… which I think in some respect is true, and the institutions of Old Republican party (not the new Conservative Repub party) and old Big Liberal Democrat party keep playing the game of it’s one against the other, when reality is Big Corporate is hand in hand with Big Government.
ahhh…
M2, This is true… I am absolutely convinced that the time for Centrism, conservative/liberal moderation went by the boards when Obama was elected.
Centrism was viable for the GOP and the DEM party during the election campaigns to pander to the middle to get elected.
We are now faced with a problem that centrism and moderation will not address… the boat has been tipped so far to the left that it is taking on water and serious danger of sinking.
Thus… I am hard over conservative as is Lisa and I have every reason to believe the same applies to SamHenry. But I leave it to SamHenry to define herself.
Lisa has already done so… as have I.
In a perfect world, the balance between left and right is maintained so that each side keeps the other side from going off the deep end… but we are now in the deep end and the communist radicals are shoving the heads of we the people under water.
No pussy footing around will get this country back on it’s correct track.
It is time for FULL BORE Conservationism… to fight against FULL BORE Communism.
An there will be no tolerance of any sort of advocacy of any kind of violence on this blog. That is all the communists need for an excuse to exercise their considerable governmental powers.
m2 says
SH, and VF AND Lisa are all from moderate Democrat, or Moderate Independent backgrounds…
VF – nothing more frustrating to deal with than a hub with a dead computer on a Sunday. We should have an emergency clinic for that.
What about a Best Buy – don’t use the geeks just the parts! You know what’s wrong with that “patient.”
look at this page.
there are no comments on any of the story except 40 comments on balloon boy.
that is the fringe media these days.
http://newspulse.cnn.com/
That it happened on a Sunday really sucks.
He has now left with said computer in tow heading in the direction of Best Buy…
samhenry says
VF – nothing more frustrating to deal with than a hub with a dead computer on a Sunday. We should have an emergency clinic for that.
What about a Best Buy – don’t use the geeks just the parts! You know what’s wrong with that “patient.”
Read this and weep – especially over the last paragraph.
August 28, 2009
Proposed Bill to Give White House Authority to Control Internet in Emergency
A proposed Bill in the U.S. Senate would give the White House control of the internet in the case of emergency. The bill, S.773 introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) and Sen. Olympia Snow (R-ME) is pretty vague, which is alarming to internet companies and civil rights groups alike.
According to CNET, the bill would allow the White House to declare cybersecurity emergencies. It also allows the government to choose which internet companies they deem “critical.” These companies would then be subject to regulations surrounding hiring employees, information that would need to be disclosed and when the government could take over their network.
http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/090828-152714
My lord. We have 16% true unemployment, banking sector being overtaken by the FED and shady men in suits (Paulson, Bernanke, Summers), pay being capped in a free market country, a white house trying to force an unconstitutional debt-death of us bill all the while cow pinning the media to their Statist/Communist whim. A nat’l emergency and a foreign war being handled and called by for POLITICAL leverage not LEADERSHIP.
and there are 40 commnets on Balloon Boy?
now there are 41 comments on balloon boy…
http://newspulse.cnn.com/
WHAT THE?
HALF this country is out of its mind.
I have 5 computers, and it doesn’t matter if I have a working one, if one is down, I’m in a panic to make it work. Just me.
VF – re hum and Best Buy
Too bad you can’t go along as a translater. As you well know, angry men can’t get the right words out and then when terrified sales staff can’t get what they are saying, well –best to just get a new computah! Been there; done that. lol
This has all been in their plans. Nothing they do is for benefit of the people. They’ve been weaving this web in hopes of execution for a long time coming.
Not even their calling American Nazi’s and labeling them Extremists, nor listening to the majority on what they want from Healthcare is the icing on the cake of “we don’t care”… we knew they didn’t care before all that.
SH says:
“It also allows the government to choose which internet companies they deem “critical.” These companies would then be subject to regulations surrounding hiring employees, information that would need to be disclosed and when the government could take over their network.”
That is very cool, SamHenry!
If I have not responded to someones comment directed to me it is because I was off the blog helping hubs… I am not ignoring anyone.
samhenry says
VF, You have taught me well. It is to your credit that this has come to pass:
http://beta.thoora.com/?c=searcher&q=SamHenry
I should say: ‘Not even their calling regular Americans Nazi’s’
M2, check the number of comments to the Politics list of CNN articles at
http://newspulse.cnn.com/
VF – re centrists, conservatives and sinking ships – and how I define myself.
Generally – principle by principle. That is why I am independent. However as with most independents – I am a fiscal Conservative and increasingly a social conservative as well.
I am with you and Lisa – just a more moderate voice behind a screaming headline. However, moderate though the voice may seem, snakes hide beneath the still waters…. Just when they think it is safe to go into the water….
i just found this: http://conservapedia.com/Main_Page
Sadly, I have to phone in a few prescriptions and get to the store by 1:00.
BBL
DOG OVERBOARD – sick to have to leave
something must be wrong with their website. That’s not normal…
though even the “popularity” bars are weak. Now, that, I can believe!
VF say:
M2, check the number of comments to the Politics list of CNN articles at
http://newspulse.cnn.com/
Bye SH, hope you feel better too!
That is why I said I will let you define yourself… and why I justified my approach as compared to the approach of others and why I wont take any peer suppression on my style.
No one style is the ‘best’ or ‘only’ or ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ style …and that why there was a lengthy discussion on these matters in the conference room.
samhenry says
VF – re centrists, conservatives and sinking ships – and how I define myself.
Generally – principle by principle. That is why I am independent. However as with most independents – I am a fiscal Conservative and increasingly a social conservative as well.
I am with you and Lisa – just a more moderate voice behind a screaming headline. However, moderate though the voice may seem, snakes hide beneath the still waters…. Just when they think it is safe to go into the water….
“HALF this country is out of its mind.”
Half of the country is just STUPID.
It’s my opinion that you must take an IQ test to qualify to vote.
Good morning all!
Fox, I am never going to watch UFC again! Last night on UFC104 Shogun kicked the living crap out of Machida yet the judges gave the win and the belt to Machida. It was so obviously fixed. It was like ACORN getting Obama elected; a big fat joke!
I’m of the opinion, that to beat back the forces that seek destruction of our country “I” need to act like Barney Frank. Speak boldly and loudly! No apologizing for conservatism! That’s why I always defend Rush Limbaugh, from even back early in the year when people would annhilate you personally for listening to him. Well I say “Screw You!” ha ha ha…
years ago, before SS Soros landed and begin to nurture and develop a pathology of hate between countrymen, people would not accept the type of crud spewed by Pelosi and Franks, or Kerry. It was considered beneath their rank. Yet now it is prevalent in D.C. and the only way to combat it is to prove that we are just as fierce.
Once everything normalizes and media decide their professions and business are worth it, moreso than whipping boys for the One, and the country elects a genuine American in spirit… rhetoric should be dampened down.
Right now, their crazy rhetoric is zombifying their base, and the Republicans are just plain scared, so strong voices of opposition must exist to give “the silent majority” more confidence…
🙂
Taking care of yourself is job one, sweetie.
see you later!
hugs
samhenry says
Sadly, I have to phone in a few prescriptions and get to the store by 1:00.
BBL
DOG OVERBOARD – sick to have to leave
“As you well know, angry men can’t get the right words out and then when terrified sales staff can’t get what they are saying, well –best to just get a new computah! Been there; done that.”
I think when you go to the computer store or car parts place and you say,
“THE #%$@&! PIECE OF &*#&$! DON”T MAKE THE &#$#! WORK ON THE $*#^@!”
is pretty self explanatory…
That would be great, or at least be current on issues. But the “current” Democrat party encourages ignorance and not knowing information, illegals, and foreigners, Micky Mouse and homeless… or even ppl who vote 2 or 3 x, what is 1 more time?
They would never allow their voters to prove basic intelligence!
… it is the moderates, smart people that elected Obama, because Obama was more deceptive than any politician before him in history.
It will be the moderates that throw his ass out. Intelligent people, who see what they signed up for.
Hiya Belle!
Hubs loves UFC… I hope he does not find out one of his favorites got shafted… not sure who any of them are except a few… like that cutie Urijah “The California Kid” Faber and a couple of others… hubs hates that Canadian guy, Georges St-Pierre.
Belle,
Glad I didn’t buy that one.
UFC, lol!!!
m2 wrote: It will be the moderates that throw his ass out. Intelligent people, who see what they signed up for.
hmmmm…. I happen to think it will be the same far left crisis spreading moonbats that gets him thrown out. I think Obutthole will turn his back on the same crooks that got his ass elected and then they’ll fight back.
Pharm at Wegman’s open until 4! Yippee but I do need to get out and get stuff done in the yard. But you know me – more important to be on the computer!
Tale on myself. I’m trying to walk more and eat less. Finally got out around 6 last night but stopped by a friend’ s around the corner.
I think actually the only people Obama is representing is the Left Wingers. He knows he will get them all they want because they are the same.
Listen to that speech about Healthcare before congress. That was the worst speech ever giving by an “American President”…
He’s a Piece of Shit.
Sometimes… I know when to hold ’em and know when to fold ’em and know when to walk away and know when to run. His stress has a way of stressing me the hell out… and I don’t want or need it.
He bought it at Circuit City (out of business) so at least the folks at Best Buy can’t be held accountable… that is a blessing… he is NOT a happy camper.
I am just ducking…
samhenry says
VF – re hum and Best Buy
Too bad you can’t go along as a translater. As you well know, angry men can’t get the right words out and then when terrified sales staff can’t get what they are saying, well –best to just get a new computah! Been there; done that. lol
Foxwood, you would’ve been ticked!! I want my money back!
Shogun must feel ticked this morning. I just can’t believe they didn’t declare him the winner.
Interrupted – so I left my friend’s and continued on and noticed that the Presbyterian Church were having a chicken barbecue. I didn’t have money with me BUT my neighbor is active in the church and he was there – I was saved. There were chocolate brownies for dessert….
Earlier walk today – no stopping.
I am practicing getting in shape so I can run away from what is happening in this county today. People don’t get it yet. They will not get it until it is too late. Oh for that warning voice they will say. VotingFemale Spoke….
mmm chicken barbeque and brownies!
And in the last days;
Israeli Police Storm Jerusalem Holy Site
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569471,00.html
JERUSALEM — Israeli forces stormed Jerusalem’s holiest shrine Sunday, firing stun grenades to disperse hundreds of stone-throwing Palestinian protesters in a fresh eruption of violence at the most volatile spot in the Holy Land.
A wall of Israeli riot police behind plexiglass shields closed in on the crowd, sending many protesters — overwhelmingly young men — running for cover into the black-domed Al-Aqsa mosque. The mosque is one part of the compound known to Jews as the Temple Mount and to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary.
Dozens of protesters remained holed up inside the mosque for several hours, occasionally opening shuttered doors to throw objects at police. The Israeli forces did not enter the building, and the protesters eventually left peacefully and the compound was closed, police said. There were no serious injuries.
Israel’s national police chief, David Cohen, accused a small group of Muslim extremists of trying to foment violence — echoing a charge made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu two weeks ago.
“The police will act with a strong hand against anyone who disrupts order on the Temple Mount and against those incite to riot,” Cohen said.
Religious and nationalist sentiment connected with the site have made it a flashpoint for violence in the past. A visit in 2000 by Ariel Sharon, then an Israeli opposition leader, helped ignite deadly clashes that escalated into violence that engulfed Israel and the Palestinian territories for several years. Sharon was subsequently elected prime minister.
Sunday’s clashes were the most intense in the past month of unrest around the compound. Frictions in recent weeks have stemmed largely from rumors among Palestinians about Israeli plans to allows Jews to pray at the site or to dig under the compound and harm the Muslim buildings there.
Israel has carried out numerous archaeological digs in nearby areas, but says the work does not threaten the compound. Two weeks ago, Netanyahu angrily dismissed accusations that Israel is trying to sabotage Muslim holy sites as “baseless” lies.
In the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority condemned the Israeli police action.
“Jerusalem is a red line that Israel should not cross,” said Nabil Abu Rdeneh, spokesman for President Mahmoud Abbas.
Muslim leaders had urged their followers to gather at the compound early Sunday in response to what they said was a planned “Jewish conquest.”
Israeli police said the protesters hurled a fire bomb and poured oil on the ground to make the forces slip. Around midday, small groups of youths were seen darting in and out of nearby alleyways in Jerusalem’s Old City, throwing stones and bottles at police, who responded with more stun grenades. Many protesters masked their faces with white T-shirts or black-and-white checkered keffiyeh headdresses.
A total of 25 protesters suffered light to moderate injuries after being struck by batons or inhaling gas, said Ameen Abu Ghazaleh, head of the Palestinian Red Crescent’s ambulance service. In addition, an Australian journalist covering the clash was struck in the face by a rock and lightly wounded, Israeli police said.
Nine police officers were also lightly wounded and 18 protesters were detained, police said. The Palestinian president’s adviser on Jerusalem affairs, and a leader from Israel’s Islamic Movement were arrested for alleged incitement, police said.
The disputing claims to the hilltop compound in Jerusalem’s Old City lie at the heart of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. It is revered as the holiest site in Judaism, home to the biblical Temples.
It also is the third-holiest site in Islam, after the Saudi cities of Mecca and Medina, and believed to be the place where the Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven. At the center of the compound is the famous golden cap of the Dome of the Rock.
The site has been under Israeli control since 1967, but is administered by a Muslim religious body known as the Waqf. The compound is opened for several hours a day to allow tourists and Jews to visit, though only Muslims are allowed to pray there.
The Palestinians seek to make east Jerusalem — including the holy compound — the capital of a future independent state, while Netanyahu says he will never share control of the holy city.
Israel’s crackdown drew condemnations from throughout the Muslim world. The head of the 57-nation Islamic Conference warned that any provocative act at Al-Aqsa “would bear grave consequences,” while the Arab League called on the U.N. to “stop the Israeli aggressions.”
Egypt said it had instructed its ambassador in Israel to urge the government to refrain from actions with “negative repercussions” for the region.
The Islamic militant Hamas movement, which rules the Gaza Strip, called on Palestinians to rise up against Israel and urged Arab countries that have ties to Israel to sever them. “The real battle begins again,” spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said.
Wise words on “husbandry” VF, very wise. They have to blow themselves out like tornadoes and hurricanes.
Better the outwardly angry than the strong silent types that end up murderers. lol
All socialists are warty toads. Snakes eat toads – especially the warty ones…
I would love to stick around but I’ve got to grab the leaf blower and clean the deck and yard. This has een my every Sunday. I love the leaves when they turn but I hate it when they fall!!
Give those leaves, hell, belle.
Serious Resistance to ObamaCare and the poll numbers cited in the above blogpost are all pushing Obama to expose himself as a Radical Communist he pretends not to be …a person who will do anything ANYTHING to win and shove this country’s head under Communist Water.
m2 says
I think actually the only people Obama is representing is the Left Wingers. He knows he will get them all they want because they are the same.
Listen to that speech about Healthcare before congress. That was the worst speech ever giving by an “American President”…
He’s a Piece of Shit.
ahhhh the days of taking the leaf blower to the yard… I miss them.
laters dear!!!
ohiobelle says
I would love to stick around but I’ve got to grab the leaf blower and clean the deck and yard. This has een my every Sunday. I love the leaves when they turn but I hate it when they fall!!
I was surprised to see a blurb on FN about the “Constitutionality” of the bill.
That’s good news.
Because it’s NOT Constitutional, and that’s the point for the commies. They want to render the Constitution irrelevent. They just “ignore” it like it was a Fox News Channel. LOL
If this Constitution argument gets picked up…
they have a stinker on their hands! The commie trolls!
The worst speech in America was the one given to a graduating class by the Director of Communications at the WH who was so ill-educated she did not grasp the important teaching of Communism: Individuality is dead.
Mao was lauding himself as a leader. They can do as they wish. He was not talking about the proletariat who are followers.
I could not live in China because I could not possibly dance in the square waving a large silk flag and in unison with others. It is for the best that I am old enough to die in a country where if you were not Ginger Rogers, you could try to be a EudoraWeltly.
My spellings are all off this AM – forgive – it’s Sunday, comrades. Anyone have a chocolate brownie on them?
I heard Rush this week read from page 147 of Rules for Radicals and then play clips of Obama’s internet saturday address which said THE SAME THING. Especially using the tactic of demonizing Insurance industry.
If anyone can find page 147, I’d like to see it again in print. I can’t find it.
AT has a good Alinsky article called “Obamadrama” today, as well.
I kind of think you have to be ill of mind to want to be a communist… they seem to not understand that the elite few who dictate their lives are playing them for fools. Anita Dunn is a Grade A idiot.
SH says:
The worst speech in America was the one given to a graduating class by the Director of Communications at the WH who was so ill-educated she did not grasp the important teaching of Communism: Individuality is dead.
Mao was lauding himself as a leader. They can do as they wish. He was not talking about the proletariat who are followers.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/25/obama.carter.reagan/index.html
Is it morning in America, or has hope given way to malaise?
(CNN) — Nearly a year after the presidential election, the excitement of Barack Obama’s campaign has faded into the reality of an Obama White House.
As observers try to determine what time it is in American politics, they arrive at opposite conclusions.
To some, said Tulane University political scientist Thomas Langston, Obama is like Jimmy Carter, and the nation will soon hammer the nails into the coffin of a dying Democratic coalition just as voters, tired of the Carter “malaise” era, handed the White House to Republicans in 1980.
To others, Obama has come to usher in a new understanding of the relationship between the government and the people. To them, Langston said, it’s the dawning of a new age, as depicted in a famous 1984 Ronald Reagan campaign ad that declared, “It’s morning again in America.”
Both Obama and Carter were elected into office at a time when voters were hungry for change. Carter represented the antithesis of President Nixon and a break from the disillusionment and mistrust of government caused by the Watergate scandal.
Carter, like Obama, learned the ropes in a state Senate. Critics accused Carter of being inexperienced, having served one term as the governor of Georgia. But the Democratic candidate presented himself as a politician outside of politics and a reformer uninterested in partisan games.
“With Carter himself, there was a sense of a kind of national renewal in some ways that people have said has been true after the very difficult years of the Bush presidency,” said Russell Riley, chair of the Miller Center’s Presidential Oral History Program at the University of Virginia.
Shortly after taking office, Carter’s approval rating peaked at 75 percent but dropped to the low 40s in a little more than a year. He entered office weighed down by a sagging economy, and eventually, the energy crisis, the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan and the Iranian hostage crisis took a toll on his administration.
“He ended his presidency, of course, holed up in the White House as a virtual captive himself of the Iranian hostage takers,” Langston said.
The parallels to Carter come primarily from Obama’s Republican critics. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist speculated last month that a Carter-esque loss “may happen again,” and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has predicted that a Republican resurgence — like the one he led in the mid ’90s — could be just around the corner.
“Carter is held up as the model of the ineffectual president — a saint of a man but an ineffectual president. And so when people compare Obama to Carter, that is an attack,” said David Gergen, a senior political analyst for CNN who also worked in the Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton administrations.
Incumbent presidents who lost second-term bids
John Adams (1800)
John Quincy Adams (1828)
Martin Van Buren (1840)
Grover Cleveland (1888)
Benjamin Harrison (1892)
William Howard Taft (1912)
Herbert Hoover (1932)
Gerald Ford (1976*)
Jimmy Carter (1980)
George H.W. Bush (1992)
*Ford assumed office after Richard Nixon resigned. He ran for his first full term in 1976.
The comparison to Carter, Gergen said, is more of a danger sign for Obama than it is a reality because it shows how the storyline has changed.
When Obama first came into office, observers likened him to some of the most successful presidents in U.S. history, such as Franklin Roosevelt, Gergen said. Now, Obama’s also being compared to a president who didn’t live up to expectations.
The Carter comparison shows how much polarization has occurred in the country since the election, Gergen said.
Under Carter, there was also a sense of polarization — but it was in the president’s party. The liberal wing of the Democrats felt abandoned to the point that Sen. Edward Kennedy, one of the top liberals in Congress, challenged Carter in his 1980 re-election bid. Kennedy came up short, but his bid severely weakened Carter and contributed to his eventual defeat in the 1980 election to Reagan, Riley said.
While the similarities are not lost on Riley, what’s more telling is the “most important mistake that [Obama] didn’t make.”
When Carter took office, there were Democrats with executive branch experience available, but he didn’t want to use them. “Carter was criticized for bringing in the ‘Georgia Mafia,’ ” Riley said, referring to Carter’s decision to give key positions to people from his home state.
Obama, however, stacked his bench with pros from the Clinton administration. He brought in some advisers from Chicago, Illinois, some from Washington and others such as Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel with deep ties to both places.
That move was critical, Riley said, “because if you’ve got seasoned people in these positions, they’re much more likely to make adjustments and to know Capitol Hill in a way that will allow them to weather the kinds of problems that were common to both Carter and Obama.”
John Geer, a Vanderbilt University political scientist, said the comparisons to Carter are weak.
“Jimmy Carter is a very rare exception in American history. Most first-term presidents get a second term,” he said, adding that it’s especially rare since Carter’s term came on the heels of previous Republican rule.
President George H.W. Bush also served one term, but it came after eight years of Republican control of the White House.
The more analogous comparison so far, Geer said, is to Reagan, who also entered the White House with a full plate of foreign policy problems — mostly surrounding the Cold War — and a major economic crisis at hand.
Reagan was a gifted politician, Geer said. He was known as an inspiring communicator, and his appeal crossed party lines. Like Obama, polls showed that Reagan was more popular than his policies. More than 20 years after he left the White House, Republicans still look to him as the last great face of the party.
Reagan continues to be the touch stone, the smiling Buddha figure. Everybody rubs his belly for good luck.
–Thomas Langston, Tulane political scientist
“Reagan continues to be the touchstone, the smiling Buddha figure. Everybody rubs his belly for good luck,” Langston said. “Like the smiling Buddha, he is whatever you want him to be.”
In his book “The Audacity of Hope,” Obama wrote that although he and Reagan had differing political viewpoints, he understands the Republican president’s appeal.
“Reagan spoke to America’s longing for order, our need to believe that we are not simply subject to blind, impersonal forces but that we can shape our individual and collective destinies, so long as we rediscover the traditional values of hard work, patriotism, personal responsibility, optimism, and faith,” he wrote.
Gergen, who was director of communications for Reagan, said the comparisons to Reagan are strained because of their opposite governing styles. Where as Obama tries to draw consensus, Reagan drew lines, he said.
“Reagan was a conviction politician, and Barack Obama is a consensus-seeking politician,” Gergen said. “Barack Obama was a magical figure in his campaign, ran an extremely good campaign, but also based it more on the sense of hope and change as ideas, the particular policy solutions, à la Reagan.”
Martin Anderson, an economic policy adviser to Reagan, said Obama and Reagan faced similar problems in their first year but approached them with different solutions.
Faced with an economic crisis, Reagan’s strategy was to reduce taxes, let the American people figure out what to do and then find out what went wrong, Anderson said.
After Reagan cut taxes in his first year, there were no immediate changes. “It looked terrible, and it didn’t look very good during the second year. And then it began to catch and it worked … and it was really terrific on the third and the fourth and the fifth and so on,” Anderson said. As for Obama’s approach to country’s economic woes — it’s too early to tell what will happen, he said.
In his first few months in office, Reagan also went through a game-changing experience that had ramifications for both him and the country: He got shot.
“He came very close to dying. It was right down next to his heart. Just stunned everything, stunned everybody,” Anderson recalled.
But within weeks, Reagan was back at work — with a positive attitude and good sense of humor.
“And the Democrats — after he came to life again — they took a deep sigh and said, ‘OK, you can do whatever you want,’ ” Anderson said.
As tragic as the 1981 assassination attempt was, Reagan’s quick recovery — and the sympathy from Democrats — provided momentum for the president’s agenda.
“The first year is a very tough year for any president,” Anderson said, noting that each year thereafter is “dramatically different.” Asked what he thinks about comparisons to Carter and Reagan, Anderson replied, “You know who he looks like? Obama.”
Looking to administrations past, Obama can learn a valuable lesson, Gergen said.
“Don’t spend time wallowing in arguments about who you might be — spend time worrying about who you are and worrying about governing.”
The similarities between Obama and his predecessors, while interesting to discuss, are not foreboding, Riley said.
“There is no exact historical parallel to what we are looking at right now. There are bits and pieces here and there,” he said. It’s impossible, however to take those similarities and “piece out from them a guaranteed scenario that he is going to end up in the same place.”
That idea, he said, is perhaps best summed up in a quote attributed to Mark Twain: “History doesn’t repeat itself, it rhymes.”
* Obama poll numbers show wear and tear
* Borger: Mistrust of government handicaps Obama
My obituary will read:
Died from lack of medical and spiritual care under the direction of a doctor who was overtired and under paid and had, as a result, developed a very bad bedside manner.
She was cremated using a bunson burner due to lack of funding for disposal.
Her ashes were strewn in the compost pile of the local community garden.
She will pop up in some form in the spring.
If anyone falls upon it, it’s the juxtapose of Presidential Internet address 10/17 and page 147 R for R.
“Wise words on “husbandry” VF, very wise. They have to blow themselves out like tornadoes and hurricanes.
Better the outwardly angry than the strong silent types that end up murderers. lol”
I use a punching bag. It’s cathartic and a good workout. Draw a picture of someone’s face on it and let go.
I have to draw a new picture of my boss almost every time I take it out on him.
BWHA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!
if that’s how they feel, they are FOOOOOLS!
and in earnest, why are the Leftists always calling to mind Reagan and Lincoln (yet totally are different from them) and who are Republicans. In some roundabout way, especially for Reagan. It’s like they are jealous yet still recognized he was great.
samiam says:
“To others, Obama has come to usher in a new understanding of the relationship between the government and the people. To them, Langston said, it’s the dawning of a new age, as depicted in a famous 1984 Ronald Reagan campaign ad that declared, “It’s morning again in America.”
Yep M2 its good to compare how the Fringe likes to compare greatness or assimilate it towards Obama lama.
Sharp eye to pick up on that paragraph M2.
The constitution is only as good as it’s defenders…
m2 says
I was surprised to see a blurb on FN about the “Constitutionality” of the bill.
That’s good news.
Because it’s NOT Constitutional, and that’s the point for the commies. They want to render the Constitution irrelevent. They just “ignore” it like it was a Fox News Channel. LOL
If this Constitution argument gets picked up…
they have a stinker on their hands! The commie trolls!
Well after walking around outside this job is going to take a little longer than I thought. It looks like I have to bring out my big gun.. the leaf sweeper.. lol GOD I HOPE I RUN INTO NANCY (MY YELLOW SNAKE)! I WILL SUCK HER RIGHT…LOL
BBL
well they talk about carter bringing in a cadre of outsiders…. why don’t they just say TRILATERALS!? I love the slight and subtle spin that the fringe media fools guide in their articles.
They say Obama’s got Clintonites. Well, if they were reporters, they’d add that he ran on a NEW Washington free of the old washed up faces. Instead, he’s got Clinton people who are also TRILATERALS.
the only thing accurate in that article is the advisors to Reagan’s comments on his political style verses Obama.
samiam wrote from cnn:
“When Carter took office, there were Democrats with executive branch experience available, but he didn’t want to use them. “Carter was criticized for bringing in the ‘Georgia Mafia,’ ” Riley said, referring to Carter’s decision to give key positions to people from his home state.
Obama, however, stacked his bench with pros from the Clinton administration. He brought in some advisers from Chicago, Illinois, some from Washington and others such as Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel with deep ties to both places.”
I have not forgotten about ‘Nancy’ the yellow snake! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Run Nancy Run!!! Belle’s gonna get ya!
ohiobelle says
Well after walking around outside this job is going to take a little longer than I thought. It looks like I have to bring out my big gun.. the leaf sweeper.. lol GOD I HOPE I RUN INTO NANCY (MY YELLOW SNAKE)! I WILL SUCK HER RIGHT…LOL
BBL
Sounds very therapeutic in a guy sorta way!
Foxwood says
“Wise words on “husbandry” VF, very wise. They have to blow themselves out like tornadoes and hurricanes.
Better the outwardly angry than the strong silent types that end up murderers. lol”
I use a punching bag. It’s cathartic and a good workout. Draw a picture of someone’s face on it and let go.
I have to draw a new picture of my boss almost every time I take it out on him.
I am abhorring leaf duty this season as I have developed really terrible allergies that only affect my sinus and keep me in pain all night, so much that my ear hurts. And only relieve is constant dosing of claritan.
So I hope my hubster does the leaves.
Leaves just now starting to fall in Louisville.
I got to fix part of Elena’s costume for a party, have a good afternoon folks! bbs!
here’s part of Obamadrama:
wise words wise words!!
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/obamadrama.html
Samiam,
Reagan loved America…
OBama hates America…
any questions, America?
Precisely so, M2…
ergo, my growl…
M2 cited this…
There’s no rule in American politics that says voters have to be nice. That we can’t get tough on the Democrats. It’s been done. It will be done again. All it takes is guts and conviction and street smarts. You’ve got it. Use it.
RINO’s say:
If you can’t beat them,
join them.
I say:
If you can’t beat the snot out of them,
beat the crap out of them!
I see Storm Clouds on the horizon. I think we all know what is coming.
VF said:
We live in Historic Times.
VF,
We should think about a alternative form of communication should the internet and turned off. I think Cell Phones may also be affected.
Were gonna need a POSTMAN.
The point… Don’t just be a head hunter.
Beat the body and the head goes with it.
Samiam, before there will be any Communist censorship of the internet there will be a loud long and hard political battle… it is going to be tried in nudges… and I have every reason to believe it will be tried.
gotta log off…
hubs is back with his computer… he got it fixed but now the bull in the china closet is going to start messing with cables… I dont want a power interuption…
be back when this is over…
VF, the Internet, Talk Radio and of course Fox News are all enemies of Obama.
All he needs is a “National Emergency”.
I hope your right about the Political Battle but I fear that battle won’t begin till After the Kill Switch is flipped. Hope I am wrong.
Sami,
I was looking for it yesterday… Keep your eyes open. Better to be ready, just in case.
Fox,
I like to think I am ready but then again how can one really be ready? Think about it. Just the thought of losing communications not to mention electric. It would be survivalist mode.
I’m ready. That’s just it. You have to be ready. You gotta do what you gotta do. Prep for food, water, I’m practicing right now with a sling shot just in case of no bullets. I have seeds for a garden. I’m working on another mode of power. I don’t have anything ready that way yet.
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Wolf – you are at your best in survivalist mode. Remember that when you don’t feel well. Think of who and what you are and you will be fine – always my friend. Feel better.
Out into the sunshine – I keep saying that then I keep blogging away.
I changed the name of my post that came in here to Future for Old Farts? VF has said, the title is everything!
Industry Groups Decry Obama Administration ‘Name-Calling’ Campaign
U.S. Chamber of Commerce Vice President Bruce Josten and America’s Health Insurance Plans Vice President Mike Tuffin tell ‘Fox News Sunday’ the administration is in a campaign to shut out criticism on health care reform.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/25/industry-groups-decry-obama-administration-calling-campaign/
President Obama is not living up to his pledge to hold an open debate over health care reform and is engaged in a “public relations campaign” to penalize critics, representatives from two industry groups in the administration’s cross hairs said Sunday.
U.S. Chamber of Commerce Vice President Bruce Josten and America’s Health Insurance Plans Vice President Mike Tuffin told “Fox News Sunday” that they will continue to raise questions about the health care reforms plans working their way through Congress. But they decried the “name-calling” they said was coming out of the White House.
“There shouldn’t be a penalty for speaking out and introducing data into the public domain,” Tuffin said. “There’s been a political, public relations campaign run against people who put data out that says specific provisions are going to increase cost.”
Tuffin’s group absorbed sharp criticism earlier in the month when it released a report criticizing health care reform ahead of a key vote on the Senate Finance Committee. The group claims efforts to weaken penalties for not getting insurance will encourage people to wait until they fall sick to get covered.
Meanwhile, administration officials have tried to do an end-run around the Chamber of Commerce, which has also opposed health care reform proposals, by dealing directly with members and publicly criticizing the group.
Josten said the administration was keeping a tight grip on debate.
“Being invited to auditoriums with 130 to 150 people where the president comes and gives prepared remarks, calls on a couple people in the audience, is not a consultative outreach,” he said. “That’s not an exchange of ideas.”
However, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has agreed to address a dinner for Chamber leaders on Nov. 4.
“We appreciate the Chamber reaching out to the White House,” said White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki in a written statement Saturday. “While we have big disagreements on issues like energy and financial regulatory reform, we want to work together on areas where there is agreement like creating jobs.”
Josten said he was glad Emanuel accepted and said the address will give him the chance to “hear back” from Chamber members. But he said his group would “stay focused.”
“We haven’t raised up the Cain. It came from their side of the street,” he said. “We’re not going to take the bait and engage in a name-calling campaign.”
Back on… almost everything is back to normal… he somehow disrupted the connection between my computer and the printer but I am going to ignore it for now… at least he is quiet and occupied now… his computer happily computing away…
and he brought me a present home with him. I smiled and accepted it.
President Obama is not living up to his pledge to hold an open debate over health care reform and is engaged in a “public relations campaign” to penalize critics, representatives from two industry groups in the administration’s cross hairs said Sunday.
Geezzzzzzz, where have we heard this before over and over again. Obama will not live up to any pledge let alone promise.
He is Evil.
VF, I listen to the way you ladies discuss your husbands and I have to ask:
Us guys never really were in control were we?
no… just allowed to believe you are, dear.
“You guys are so smart and powerful… coo…”
samiam60 says
VF, I listen to the way you ladies discuss your husbands and I have to ask:
Us guys never really were in control were we?
Sami,
Dr. Laura says, ” The man is the head of the house, but the woman is the neck.”
I’m sure there is some controlling issue there, if I know women…
Foxwood, it take two to make a team…
not a master and a slave.
I guess it took us men thousands of years to figure out that pulling you around by the hair was just a way for women to get where they wanted to go and left us too tired to bother them for anything else.
Seriously men
When my father struggled with a brain tumor for 18 years, my mother carefully instructed us to make certain that Dad stayed the head of the household in every way possible. He certainly was our spiritual mainstay. It is a partnership, love is the key.
Spending is another matter. As in government, ladies openness is not recommended. All purchases should remain in the trunk of the car until dark.
Guillermo Denis Gonzalez was released from prison in Florida in 2004 after serving 12 years for murder. By the end of 2006, he owned a health care business officially licensed by Medicare.
This August, the Miami Herald reported that Gonzalez pled guilty to filing $586,953 in phony Medicare claims for supplies that were never given to any actual patients — but this was only after he was arrested for murdering and dismembering another victim, to which he also confessed.
While it’s shocking that government policing efforts are so lax for Medicare that even a convicted murderer can be granted a license to sell equipment and file claims, Gonzalez is actually a small player compared to other cheats. Last June, for instance, the Washington Post ran a story about a high school dropout who scammed $105 million from the federal government by filing 140,000 fraudulent Medicare claims, buying herself a Mercedes-Benz and two condominiums with a portion of the proceeds.
The rampant fraud in existing government health care programs is nothing new, but the problem warrants increased attention given recent reports of growing momentum behind Democrats’ push to create a new government-run program modeled after Medicare.
Earlier this week, the Hill reported that House Democrats were discussing rebranding their so-called “public option” as “Medicare Part E,” or “Medicare for Everyone,” in hopes that it would be an easier sell. And on Thursday, ABC News cited sources who said that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid planned to include some form of a government plan in Senate legislation.
“I thought the government plan was dead,” Republican Sen. John Thune said during a Wednesday conference call with bloggers. “I don’t think that anymore.”
Proponents of creating a new government plan argue that Medicare is much more efficient than private insurance and boast that it has administrative costs of just two percent.
from: http://spectator.org/archives/2009/10/23/medi-fraud-for-everyone
Upon discover of a purchase, useful phrases are:
The burgler who took my old one must have left it.
I am keeping it here for a friend whose name I forget at the moment.
It was a surprise for you. You don’t wear dresses? I was so excited to surprise you I must have taken a wrong turn.+
The above is what the communists dont want people to know or see or hear…
and is why Obama sees it as acceptable to have an enemies list and attack the ones on the list…
Humana Health Insurance Group
The US Chamber of Commerce
Most Doctors (AMA only represents 17% of US Doctors)
FOX News…
and anyone else deemed a threat to the communist take over such as Sarah Palin
Opps! I probably just stuck my foot in my mouth again…
All I can say is, “Mullarglarf… Tarsts lark foort”…
That you think you did… is power! 😉
hehehehehe
I admire and respect men… viva la difference!
Foxwood says
Opps! I probably just stuck my foot in my mouth again…
All I can say is, “Mullarglarf… Tarsts lark foort”…
The communists don’t want the public to know how smart women handle spending money either, VF.
They will codify it.
They are doing this already.
And on top of all of that medical-specific stuff, paperclip contracts will be 3 times what business spends, etc.
Obama promised change. His Administration is hardly that. It is cronyism – incestuous cronyism.
Did you hear about announcement over the weekend?
Rahm Emanuel will be speaking at the Chamber of Commerce in November.
All bases covered per usual. I hope he doesn’t mention either Mao or Pelosi. Either will distance him from this crowd.
I love men too, VF. Trouble is at my age they are either gay or have impossible problems with which they are obsessed. I hate to interrupt a good obsession.
I had a wonderful gay friend cook me dinner the other night and protect me from financial disaster. It was wonderful. I was probably dreaming in between bites of my Chipolte burrito. Ooooooooooh I could just drive to the Emerald City for another one right now!
Well, I’ve blogged away another sunny afternoon. The draw of friends is very strong indeed. However, the need for drugs is on the horizon. The pharmacy closes at 4:00. Pray I avoid the gourmet chocolate chip cookies. As Charlie Brown used to say “they sing to me.”
DOG OVERBOARD
Been multitasking… Grilling out, cooking the bbq sauce, putting together the deck for the rent house… Man, and trying to blog as well… Didn’t get any songs played…
A dedication to the National Emergency…
I need to bail for a while… food marketing time.
how fast a Sunday afternoon fries!
Cass Elliot had one of the best voices… Miss you Momma.
I had to call in sick to work one time… The boss asked me what was wrong.
I told him The Doo Run Run… The Doo Run Run.
I love singing this song.
And now a K-FOX twin spin!
You had the Wicket Wilson Picket, and then you had Cannibal and the Headhunters.
Wicket? heh, Wicked!
Now I’m back and going out in the dark to pick up poops. This is the reality of life. Obama and poop, poop and Obama, Obamapoop.
The Bills are winning – sorry, I interrupted the blog. We love ’em up here. Good, bad, or indifferent we love ’em.
Always remember…
WHAT? We love poop? I think not! I don’t poop cuz I don’t give a shit! 🙂
Folks, I heard that Obama’s daughters have NOT been vaccinated for Swine Flu.
Arlene, that would not surprise me… This National Emergency is a bunch of BULL!
Now Arlene you know very well what Barack will say: We Didn’t want to go ahead of the public and exercise privilege.
GEEZE –
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ha ha ha…
I’m the heavy hitter on my blog tonight. I’m just warning ya folks, that’s my trackback right there.
‘nite!
Hello!
I just got banned from ireports (Prevost1580 ) I think that you were leaving as I was coming in.lol~
CNN is definitely on my sh*t list. I will never defend those f**ckers again! Definitely a liberal lovin’ Obummer azz kissin’ bunch of commies.
SH
And I would tell Obama if he don’t want his family to appear too privileged, then why don’t he send his kids to public school… or catch the grey hound bus to those fake town hall meetings. Instead of eat high dollar steaks, why not order some KFC. The country’s broke & he has to learn to pinch pennies.
Hey… Have y’all heard about Pelosi is about to bring a vote in floor to ban Foxnews from covering congress?
http://www.reclinercommentaries.com/2009/10/pelosi-stripping-fox-news-of-access.html
I wonder if this is true. I got this on tweeter. I will call my congressman to tell him to vote against Pelosi on this matter.
Pelosi has had so many face lifts that her brains have contracted. Geeze, Arlene, what next. I would not put this little thing past her. She is her own little center of power. Note this “rumor” developed over a weekend.
Hi Susan!
I remember seeing comments from Prevost at iReport.
Welcome to life after iReport, dear!
Here you will find like minded patriots who speak their minds and do not have to worry about an iReport Nanny!
There are other ex-Dems here, including myself, who will not lay down and let the communists march in and take over.
If you are interested in blogging, go to http://wordpress.com and get an account and a blog. This will give you a presence on the web and a Gravatar (avatar). WordPress is much more feature rich than iReport and I and others here are happy to help you get up to speed.
We gather here as a group to discuss the events of the day and also blog on our individual blogs.
Hope you decide to join the group and stick around.
Our voice here is heard much more loudly that it ever was at iReport… and no one is going to ban your blog at wordpress.
wordpress.com is a free market company, not a socialist media company like CNN.
Also you are your own moderator of your own blog… which is way cool! 😉
Susan says
Hello!
I just got banned from ireports (Prevost1580 ) I think that you were leaving as I was coming in.lol~
CNN is definitely on my sh*t list. I will never defend those f**ckers again! Definitely a liberal lovin’ Obummer azz kissin’ bunch of commies.
Laura Ingraham beats Charlie Gibson about the head and shoulders… and addresses Barack ONixon’s whining and bat swinging at the “enemies on his list”
meanwhile George Streptococcus exercises his tonsils in defense of an Obama State Run Media for the benefit of Communism, Barack Oboohoo style.
“Instead of eat high dollar steaks, why not order some KFC.”
I like Popeye’s Chicken myself…
Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!
Laura and George Will did really GREAT in that roundtable. Stephannopolis is right out of the White House. It’s funny how the libbies accept him as a legit person coming from that background. At times he does say things that go against the Obama-Commie grain. My guess would be his utter loyalty to Clinton that compels him to do so.
and GOOD MORNING!
Morning VF!
Morning M2!
Good Morning Foxwood and M2!!!
Fresh blogpost hot off the wordpress!
https://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/doug-hoffman-a-republican-rejected-by-the-gop-in-favor-of-a-socialist-get-a-clue-newt-video/
Folks the Pelosi ban on Fox news story is a hoax story.
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