ObamaCare, A Cost Too Great; Socialists’ “Concessions” Don’t Address near $1 Trillion Costs

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ObamaCare Costs won't Hurt Me! HAHAHAHAHA

ObamaCare Version 1.0

The Lies of Obama, during the Joint Session of Congress Speech where Joe the Congressman called out Barack on his BS, has forced the Congressional Socialists and Obama to walk back some of the ObamaCare Provisions egregious to Everyday Americans to move Obama’s Statements from the”Lies Column” to the “Ok, you caught Me Lying” Column.

Ok, sooo… lets say the Socialists actually create ObamaCare Version 2.o and get it written into a Congressional bill and lets say… the ObamaCare Version 2.0 Bill actually accommodates fixes to the Primary Policy Issues Raised by the Congressional Minority and Americans throughout the Country.

Lets say that for the moment…

The Glaring Issue
The Biggest Issue
The Deal Buster Issue is…


No matter how Obama has sliced and diced his Snake Oil.

The cost of ObamaCare Version 2.0 exceeds the Ability of the Tax Payers to actually pay for it and will additionally steal money needed for National Security and other Mandatory Expenditures.

Do not for a single second get lulled into a false sense of security by the Socialists… they did not give up or give in… they simply shifted into Sly-er more devious methods to achieve the shoving of everything they are hell bent on achieving up the fanny of America. Their ‘Talk’ is cheap and their ‘Plans’ ensures National Bankruptcy in addition to Rationing of Health Care. Say good bye to BOTH Grandma and your Money.

Case in Point… the Socialist’s ‘Trigger’ to invoke the Public Option at their discretion.

Just Say No to the Socialists
They are to never be trusted


Additional Reading

Frugal-Cafe: God Bless America… Thousands Upon Thousands of Inspiring, Patriotic Voices and Faces from 9/12 March on Washington, DC (video)
Frugal Café Blog Zone:
Foreign Press: Up to 2 Million Attended 9/12 March on Washington (time-lapse video of march) (Updated) and Terrible Tsunami Expected for Democrats Today, 9/12: Glenn Beck/Tea Party Protest in Washington, DC, Conservatives Inspired by Joe Wilson, 1 Million Anticipated
Free Republic: The TEA PARTY Movement: How We Got Here
Michelle Malkin: Celebrating the 9/12 rallies
Just Americans Making Ethical Statements Weblog : They Didn’t Gather as Republicans, nor as Democrats, but as AMERICANS
Big Hollywood: Tea Parties: Protesting Government Excess
R.J. Thomas, Big Hollywood: Los Angeles Tea Party Video
Gateway Pundit: 12,000 PATRIOTS IN QUINCY, ILLINOIS! and Quincy Pre-Party Before the Tea Party and DC Tea Party Planners Forced Out of Meeting After Bomb Threat …Update: Massive Turnout Expected… Leftist Caller Tells Receptionist: “I put a bomb in your building b*tch!”
Vodkapundit: They Will Be Heard [UPDATED PRETTY CONSTANTLY]:
Brutally Honest: The Million NotObamaFan March (UPDATED) (AGAIN)
Mark Epstein: Is Michelle Obama “proud” to be an American today? Cause I sure as hell am!
GayPatriot: Yahoo! Ignores Million-Person Protest (for Freedom) on same page it Featured 150-Person Petition (against Cheney)
Vets On The Watch: What I Learned At The 912 DC March
Greg Sargent, The Plum Line: House Dems Bracing For Huge Turnout At Glenn Beck/Tea Party Gathering
Publius, Big Government: Andrew Breitbart, Glenn Reynolds, Dana Loesch Headline Quincy, Il. Tea Party; FoxNews to Air
Sister Toldjah: 9/12 Tea Party rallies in DC
The Powers That Be: 9/12 March on Washington Live Video Link
Hot Air: Open Thread: 9/12 Tea Parties
Smart Girl Politics: Tea Party
Dana Loesch, Big Government: The Tea Party Movement: How We Got Here
WorldNetDaily: Tea party protesters march on U.S. Capitol
Nice Deb: 9/12 March On Washington
Stop The ACLU: What Was The Attendence At The D.C. TEA Party?
Looking at the Left: Conservative Woodstock Rocks the Capital: Patriotic anti-big-government taxpayers blast through the 2 million protester mark.
09.12.09 March on Washington
Tim Graham, NewsBusters: WaPo Presents 9-12 Event as GOP Danger, Full of ‘Right-Wing Nutballs’ and ‘Freaks’
Right Voices: Alert: Celebrating the 9/12 Rallies
Eventful, Statesville, NC: 9/12 Protest
Knox News: ‘Tea Party in D.C.’ caravan swells after ET stop
Palm Beach County Post: 1,000 Palm Beach County, Treasure Coast activists march to U.S. Capitol as conservatives protest ‘Obamacare’
The Hill: Loud 9/12 protest reaches the Capitol

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292 Responses to ObamaCare, A Cost Too Great; Socialists’ “Concessions” Don’t Address near $1 Trillion Costs

  1. samiam60 says:

    VF, will Obamacare 2.0 come with Security Suite 2.0, anti virus, spam protection, firewall, and cookie monster 8.1 ?

  2. samiam60 says:

    I have noticed when checking my cookies that a bunch of them are in the shape of the white house and some are in the shape of air force one. Do you think I may have a problem?

  3. VotingFemale says:

    Houston, we have a problem.

  4. karmahd says:

    I was starting to write a post on health care and came across numerous blogs and posts on the issue. The major misconception I held was that the health care industry was highly profitable given all the rhetoric, and that competition was a major factor!

    The information shows first that the health care industry as a whole shows a very minimal profit margin, 3-7% pre tax!!! So these companies that are being demonized by Obama as profit whores, clearly does not hold water when the numbers are reviewed.

    Second, competition, this does seem to be an issue, without the ability to cross state lines to offer health insurance, this basically means you have 50 independent providers without competition, ultimately the end result of opening up the state lines would increase competition, but further erode the minimal profits these companies now hold, in effect making the game not worth playing!!

    The ultimate issue with health care is cost of the provided services, (my bill for 23 hours in the hospital $12366), the general consensus and vague at best is liability!!! So although Tort Reform has been dismissed (due to the powerful trial lawyers lobby) this still appears the best resource to reduce costs. The administration and detractors of the general health care issue, is dealing with the scab and not the reason for the disease!! Otherwise why would a pill I generally pay $10.00 for 100, cost me $25.00 for one dose??

    When a business has a tight margin for profit, they are required to generate income in other areas to offset expense, this is basic business. Due to the high cost of liability insurance and rampant law suits along with doctors providing defensive medicine due to the fear of making a mistake this cost has been padded into every nook and cranny of the process.

    It would seem that a focus on reducing health care focused on the drivers of the out of control costs, (liability and malpractice insurance) would be a pragmatic point of consensus. The last thing we need is having the government enter into this fray, since it is abundantly obvious they are the last business to look to in producing a product at a profit!!!


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  6. samiam60 says:

    Here is some long over due good news:

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke says the worst recession since the ’30s is ‘very likely over’ — in spite of near-10 percent unemployment

    Karma, Lets get together and go buy ourselves each a New Camaro from Government Motors.
    We can drive them for two months free and return them no questions asked.

    I am feeling very wealthy now that the recession is over.

  7. karmahd says:

    Yeah me too Sam, lets see if we both rub both of our nickles together, we can get a bus ride to the dealership!!!

    I for one am glad the job offers are flowing in!!
    Lets see, McDonalds, Burger King, and Bob’s Big Burger are all hiring!!!

  8. samiam60 says:

    Ahahahahaha Karma your too funny. I am holding out for a management position at Rally’s.

  9. tellitlikeitis says:

    Isn’t it great the tax payers own a car company and can’t even get a discount

  10. samiam60 says:

    My dear friend is at our local VA hospital dying of Prostate Cancer caused by agent orange while in Viet Nam. A year ago he was diagnosed and request the surgery to remove the cancer. His request was denied and instead he was treated with radiation pellets. He now has the cancer in his colon and has been given three months to live “Providing” he under chemo therapy. Refusal to do so would suspend his medical benefits permanately. After two bouts with the chemo he is now admitted in the VA hospital do to complications arising from the chemo.
    His colon was removed friday morning at 7 AM and he was told he would have a Colostamy bag for two weeks and then a second surgery would be performed to reconnect the plumbing for lack of a better word. Today he called to tell me they are refusing the second surgery as he is terminal (3months to live) and that the “bag” will remain.
    He gave me his permission to share this story as he feels this is a “snapshot” of Obama’s health care reform program.

    He thanks all the Patriots who are now speaking out and hopes that we will save lives by our decent of the Obamination of our freedom.
    ( His Words) .

  11. karmahd says:

    Sam I was beat out by an 80 year old disabled woman for WalMart Greeter associated 3 last week, I have been devastated!!!!

  12. samiam60 says:

    Sorry about that Karma. What say you that we apply at Acorn. I hear they will be having alot of openings as they are transferring to state and local prisons.

  13. samiam60 says:

    With your background I figure you are a shoe in for some of these, you know, government loans.

  14. m2 says:

    Oh man rush is cracking me up today…

  15. m2 says:

    karma, don’t you know that doctors take out tonsils to make a buck…

    really. Obama said that himself!

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

    Karm said:
    I was starting to write a post on health care and came across numerous blogs and posts on the issue. The major misconception I held was that the health care industry was highly profitable given all the rhetoric, and that competition was a major factor!

    The information shows first that the health care industry as a whole shows a very minimal profit margin, 3-7% pre tax!!! So these companies that are being demonized by Obama as profit whores, clearly does not hold water when the numbers are reviewed.

  16. tellitlikeitis says:

    Working in the government must be like disneyland. All you have to do is wish for something and it comes true. I am sure the millions af unemployed are happy with that news. Maybe they can find a job now overseas.

    Bernanke: Recession ‘Likely Over’, Recovery to Be Slow

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said on Tuesday that he thinks the recession likely has ended but a recovery will be moderate at best. “From a technical perspective, the recession is very likely over,” Bernanke told questioners at a Brookings Institution conference, but he cautioned it may not feel like it’s over.

    “I’ve seen some agreement among the forecasting community that we are in a recovery,” Bernanke said, “But the general view of most forecasters is that the pace of growth in 2010 will be moderate.”

    Bernanke also said Tuesday that a U.S. “shadow banking system” that lets banks package loans into securities is likely to be smaller and simpler when the current crisis eases.

    “I imagine that the shadow banking system at least in the medium-term, will not return to the size it was before,” Bernanke said. “The changes in accounting standards, the regulatory standards, will reduce the benefits to off-balance sheet type of lending by banks.”

  17. m2 says:

    I know you guys don’t listen to Hannity… I do on occasion when I’m driving. He has ONE of the best “bump” music I’ve ever heard….

    It’s this:

    “Choice and competition” “Competition” “Choice” “Choice and competition” “Choice” ((all of this are sound-cuts of Pelosi and Obama and other Democrats)) “Competition” —”I’m for single-payer…. Universal healthcare”

    The last cut is Obama in 2007 or ’08 to SEIU.


  18. m2 says:

    Rush just said the guy in the U.K. that made the mandate for banning light bulbs?? is a communist…


  19. samiam60 says:



    Congressman Suggests People Will Don ‘White Hoods’ If Wilson Not Rebuked
    In an obvious reference to the KKK, Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., says that people will put on “white hoods and ride through the countryside” if emerging racist attitudes, which he says were subtly supported by Rep. Joe Wilson, are not rebuked. He said Wilson must be disciplined as an example.


    Tuesday, September 15, 2009

    Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst last week is drawing new recriminations from his colleagues, with a member of the Congressional Black Caucus suggesting that a failure to rebuke Wilson is tantamount to supporting the most blatant form of organized racism in American history.

    In an obvious reference to the KKK, Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said Tuesday that people will put on “white hoods and ride through the countryside” if emerging racist attitudes, which he says were subtly supported by Wilson, are not rebuked. He said Wilson must be disciplined as an example.

    The charged comments come as the House is preparing to take further action against the South Carolina Republican. House Democratic leaders decided to formally discipline him Tuesday afternoon for his jeer last week at President Obama during a joint session of Congress.

    The punishment is expected take the form of a “resolution of disapproval,” which is a milder version of other more traditional means of congressional discipline. Wilson can avoid the rap on the wrists by apologizing to his colleagues on the House floor, but Wilson — who already apologized directly to the White House — has said that’s not going to happen.

    Wilson bellowed “You lie!” at Obama during his address.

    While he was widely condemned by colleagues on both sides of the aisle for breaching protocol, some have gone a step further and accused Wilson of being racially motivated.

    Johnson seemed to reference the protests held in Washington, D.C., on Saturday in making his claim. While many protesters were there to demonstrate against big government and federal over-spending, Johnson argued that a “fringe” element is motivated by race and that Wilson’s behavior is a “wink” to that fringe.

    New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote in her column Sunday that Wilson’s outburst convinced her that racial angst is the underlying motive among Obama critics like Wilson.

    “I’ve been loath to admit that the shrieking lunacy of the summer … had much to do with race,” she wrote. “But Wilson’s shocking disrespect for the office of the president — no Democrat ever shouted ‘liar’ at W. when he was hawking a fake case for war in Iraq — convinced me: Some people just can’t believe a black man is president and will never accept it.”

    Dowd wrote that Wilson “clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.”

    Asked about the claim, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said race is not the factor.

    But it is against House rules to call the president a “liar” or accuse him of “lying” when the House is in session, which is the basis for the punishment Tuesday.

    “We’re not the British parliament for a reason,” said Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.,.”Ignoring the issue sets a precedent for bad behavior.”

    Greco described the resolution as “direct” and “non-partisan.”

    “It goes directly to conduct on the House floor,” Greco said.

    Most Democrats in the House appear poised to sanction Wilson. But many Republicans argue that since the South Carolina Republican has already apologized, this step is unnecessary. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., opposed punishing Wilson until Clyburn and other Democratic leaders persuaded her to change her mind.

    Critics say Democrats are only prolonging the issue and hurting themselves by pushing for further action against Wilson. Republicans may use the Wilson resolution to try to embarrass Democrats Tuesday, by bringing up the alleged ethical lapses of House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., or Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., or others.

    The resolution is “privileged,” meaning whenever it is introduced the measure goes to the front of the legislative line. It is unclear who will call up the measure.

    A “resolution of disapproval” is not one of the four forms of discipline typically meted out in the House. The most commonly used means of punishment are expulsion, censure, reprimand or fine.

    For instance, in 1997, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was both reprimanded and fined for his book deal. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., was reprimanded in 1990 for ethical breaches tied to a male prostitute. Republicans tried to censure Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., in 2007 for comments he made on the House floor about President Bush. But Democrats voted to set aside that effort.

    A simple majority vote is needed to approve the resolution against Wilson.

  20. m2 says:

    I’m so tired of 3 year olds in Congress. Why is it that the USA focuses never on an actual issue.

    Oh that’s right. Because angry Leftist mobs control the WH, and the media.

  21. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2, I listen to Hannity.

  22. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama Is Pushing Israel Toward War President Obama can’t outsource matters of war and peace to another state.

    Events are fast pushing Israel toward a pre-emptive military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, probably by next spring. That strike could well fail. Or it could succeed at the price of oil at $300 a barrel, a Middle East war, and American servicemen caught in between. So why is the Obama administration doing everything it can to speed the war process along?

    At July’s G-8 summit in Italy, Iran was given a September deadline to start negotiations over its nuclear programs. Last week, Iran gave its answer: No.

    Instead, what Tehran offered was a five-page document that was the diplomatic equivalent of a giant kiss-off. It begins by lamenting the “ungodly ways of thinking prevailing in global relations” and proceeds to offer comprehensive talks on a variety of subjects: democracy, human rights, disarmament, terrorism, “respect for the rights of nations,” and other areas where Iran is a paragon. Conspicuously absent from the document is any mention of Iran’s nuclear program, now at the so-called breakout point, which both Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his boss Ali Khamenei insist is not up for discussion.

    What’s an American president to do in the face of this nonstarter of a document? What else, but pretend it isn’t a nonstarter. Talks begin Oct. 1.

    All this only helps persuade Israel’s skittish leadership that when President Obama calls a nuclear-armed Iran “unacceptable,” he means it approximately in the same way a parent does when fecklessly reprimanding his misbehaving teenager. That impression is strengthened by Mr. Obama’s decision to drop Iran from the agenda when he chairs a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on Sept. 24; by Defense Secretary Robert Gates publicly opposing military strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities; and by Russia’s announcement that it will not support any further sanctions on Iran.

    In sum, the conclusion among Israelis is that the Obama administration won’t lift a finger to stop Iran, much less will the “international community.” So Israel has pursued a different strategy, in effect seeking to goad the U.S. into stopping, or at least delaying, an Israeli attack by imposing stiff sanctions and perhaps even launching military strikes of its own.

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
    Thus, unlike Israel’s air strike against Iraq’s reactor in 1981 or Syria’s in 2007, both of which were planned in the utmost secrecy, the Israelis have gone out of their way to advertise their fears, purposes and capabilities. They have sent warships through the Suez Canal in broad daylight and conducted widely publicized air-combat exercises at long range. They have also been unusually forthcoming in their briefings with reporters, expressing confidence at every turn that Israel can get the job done.

    The problem, however, is that the administration isn’t taking the bait, and one has to wonder why. Perhaps it thinks its diplomacy will work, or that it has the luxury of time, or that it can talk the Israelis out of attacking. Alternatively, it might actually want Israel to attack without inviting the perception that it has colluded with it. Or maybe it isn’t really paying attention.

    But Israel is paying attention. And the longer the U.S. delays playing hardball with Iran, the sooner Israel is likely to strike. A report published today by the Bipartisan Policy Center, and signed by Democrat Chuck Robb, Republican Dan Coats, and retired Gen. Charles Ward, notes that by next year Iran will “be able to produce a weapon’s worth of highly enriched uranium . . . in less than two months.” No less critical in determining Israel’s timetable is the anticipated delivery to Iran of Russian S-300 anti-aircraft batteries: Israel will almost certainly strike before those deliveries are made, no matter whether an Iranian bomb is two months or two years away.

    Such a strike may well be in Israel’s best interests, though that depends entirely on whether the strike succeeds. It is certainly in America’s supreme interest that Iran not acquire a genuine nuclear capability, whether of the actual or break-out variety. That goes also for the Middle East generally, which doesn’t need the nuclear arms race an Iranian capability would inevitably provoke.

    Then again, it is not in the U.S. interest that Israel be the instrument of Iran’s disarmament. For starters, its ability to do so is iffy: Israeli strategists are quietly putting it about that even a successful attack may have to be repeated a few years down the road as Iran reconstitutes its capacity. For another thing, Iran could respond to such a strike not only against Israel itself, but also U.S targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf.

    But most importantly, it is an abdication of a superpower’s responsibility to outsource matters of war and peace to another state, however closely allied. President Obama has now ceded the driver’s seat on Iran policy to Prime Minister Netanyahu. He would do better to take the wheel again, keeping in mind that Iran is beyond the reach of his eloquence, and keeping in mind, too, that very useful Roman adage, Si vis pacem, para bellum.

  23. m2 says:

    I don’t actively listen to Hannity, but I do with Rush… but Hannity oftentimes has very targeted and clairvoyant opening monologues… amazing!!

    Better than his show on tv.

  24. m2 says:

    I said last Friday… the powers behind Obummer are looking for economic misery and foreign war.

    and he is fulfilling his “duty”

  25. m2 says:

    More Cowbell!!!

    5 hours of speeches to Unions today, More cowbell! Obama on Letterman and on 5 Sunday news shows!! More —more cowbell!

  26. samiam60 says:

    Obama is now on TV more than the Shamwow guy.

  27. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama is hoping if he gets enough face time on TV more people might like him.

  28. m2 says:

    I remember one of the top-ranking libs said “he’s our secret weapon”…

    Consider that weapon a dud now. He may have fooled the sensible people pre-election, but they’d rather him WORK!! The only people who need a charismatic “leader” to make them feel okay are the looney Left now. Which is why he only talks to them and for them…

    Obama jumped the shark!

  29. m2 says:

    You guys! The undercover ACORN journalist tells NBC he won’t do an interview until they “publicly apologize for PATHETIC JOURNALISM” !!!

    To NBC/TODAY show producers sending me txts – grant interview if&onlyif u issue public apology to your viewership for pathetic journalism.

  30. m2 says:


    Group once linked to Barack Obama taped giving advice to ‘brothel owners’

    The US Census Bureau has broken links with the controversial community group Acorn, once a close ally of President Barack Obama, after it supported a purported brothel owner with a stable of underage prostitutes.

  31. tellitlikeitis says:


    BELLEVILLE — A Belleville West High School student was beaten aboard a bus on the way to school Monday, and a police spokesman said the beating could be racially motivated.

    The 17-year-old victim was white and the teen assailants were black. Police released a video of the beating, which shows the victim being punched repeatedly while other students on the bus gather to watch, some cheering. It doesn’t appear that the victim did anything to provoke an attack and tried only to defend himself. Police said it all unfolded in a five-minute span.

    The victim was trying to find a seat and was told by two students he could not sit next to them, police said.

    As he walked to the seat, someone shouted, “Beat his ass.”

    When he did sit down, one teen tried to push him out of his seat then began grabbing the victim’s neck and punching him in the face.

    With each punch, some in the crowd chanted, “Boom, boom, boom.”

    The victim eventually returned to his seat, but another student began taunting him a few minutes later. The victim was then struck in the face.

    It was unclear what, if anything, the bus driver did to stop the attack. At one point, before the second attack, a man shouts, “Sit down guys.”

    Students intervened to help the victim both times.

    “In my estimation, it’s racially motivated,” said Capt. Don Sax of the Belleville Police Department. He said one reason he had formed this opinion was that many of the students, most of whom were black, yelled their support for the beating.

    “There was absolutely no justification for the beating either time,” Sax said.

    Two teens were taken into custody; authorities will apply for charges today. Both students have been suspended, said Superintendent Greg Moats.

    He also said there had been no racial problems at the school and said that he wanted to talk further with police to determine why they believe race could have been a motivator in the fight. He also said the school will do everything possible to make sure students are safe, but he wouldn’t elaborate.

  32. karmahd says:

    Well if that is not a day late and a dollar short, NBC now wants to jump on the bandwagon 3 weeks after the first story broke!!! I guess they like the NY Times had everyone on vacation!!

    I have been busy ironing my hood, but Sam I think we should all apply to ACORN they are were the money is!!!

  33. m2 says:

    apparently ABC doesn’t do any “real” reporting either. Their “hard news journalism” has been relegated to Jake Tappers blog and Charles Gibson has no clue who ACORN is or what they do.


  34. m2 says:

    I don’t know why the kid was beat up on the bus, Tellit, but I hope it wasn’t because he was white.

    Because this racist attitude that the Democrats have fostered in black communities in order to use them for their own political prowess should be criminal. The Democrat party is the party of Liars.

  35. tellitlikeitis says:

  36. tellitlikeitis says:

    UPDATED, 11:35 a.m. with police captain backtracking on whether attack was racially motivated.

    BELLEVILLE — A Belleville police spokesman now says an incident where a white student was beaten by teen black assailants on a bus “may not be racially motivated.”

    “It was premature on my part,” said Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax. “It was my personal and emotional comment after only seeing the video briefly.”

    Sax said police interviewed the 17-year-old Belleville West High student. However, he said he was unaware of what the student told police.

    Some of the students on the bus yesterday during the incident cheered the beating, the video shows.

    Sax said a formal statement would be made available later today.

    “After having reviewed the video, it doesn’t strike me nearly as racially motivated,” Sax said.

    The about-face came this morning as the story made national headlines. Although, Sax said it was purely his review of the video that changed his mind.

    Belleville has had a long history of racial turmoil, with a past that includes police harassment of black motorists, cross burnings and discrimination in city hiring.

    The divide began a century ago, in 1903, when a black man was lynched by a mob of 5,000 people in the town square, set on fire and dismembered.

  37. tellitlikeitis says:

    It is amazing how fast these videos get on youtube.

  38. m2 says:

    glad it wasn’t “racially motivated”…
    -still a horrible crime.

    Youtube is crazy.

  39. samiam60 says:

    There have been a couple of similar beatings in my neck of the woods here. One white family was told
    “Get Out of Our Country” and then the father was beaten and hospitalized.
    I had continuing correspondence with our Local News station to no avail. When I asked why it was not reported as a Hate Crime they simply said since no one was caught we cannot verify that. Hello, it is on the video.

    These black on white beatings happen frequently in our schools here and they are never reported as racism or hate crimes.

    Sad to say but Racism in this Country is now only a One Way Street.

    I am sad to even have to report this.

  40. m2 says:

    sam, I believe the saddest part is that we are not a racist country and yet ONE political party has stoked fires and bred misconceptions of a community with a soft spot in history, for their OWN POLITICAL GAIN. They have lied to the black community and used them, and never do they lift them up or fulfill the grand promises.

    It’s just another excuse to foster hate and take the focus off of what the politicians really do in D.C.

    It’s like the muslims in Islamic countries are continually told they are oppressed by their leaders- who are actually the ones oppressing them. But they are told that it’s the “West’s fault” etc…

  41. tellitlikeitis says:

    Here is a meesage from the tea party goers to Obama.

  42. samiam60 says:

    I have spent my entire life enjoying racial harmony up here and it really is really disturbing that we have a government now that is border line inciting unrest. WHY?
    We have all come so very far together as a people.

  43. m2 says:

    They said Obama is elected, that he would unite us. He uses race to divide us for his political power. Nothing new among the left.

  44. tellitlikeitis says:

    The young punks are the troublemakers. I beat up a few when I was in High School.

  45. m2 says:

    it’s Democrat Playbook page 1.

    Call any opposition to Democrat policy “racist”.
    All the while fostering hate in communities…


  46. m2 says:

    teenage angst is pretty bad. Now all our kids are on ADD meds..

  47. tellitlikeitis says:

    Some black people now unfortunatly feel empowered to attack white because of Obama the first black president has given them new courage.

  48. tellitlikeitis says:

    It’s the black teenage punks that are causing the trouble and most of them are violent gangbangers.

  49. m2 says:

    I almost feel what Kanye did was racially motivated…

  50. tellitlikeitis says:

    The oldest play in the book “divide and conquer”

  51. m2 says:

    Newsweek has an issue this week about “white” babies being racist. Just another example of the looney left.

    That’s hilarious. Because my best girlfriend in the whole world is black, and I can tell you that Elena “at 6 months” never noticed or treated her differently than any OTHER adult she’d ever met.

    The media is DESPICABLE.

  52. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2, Of course is was. It is so obvious.

  53. m2 says:

    In fact, seems like the only people making distinctions about skin color ARE libs.

    Just using historically-sensitive topics for their own political gain. Sick people.

  54. m2 says:

    I can’t wait to see what is on Glenn today…
    A bombshell is expected!

  55. m2 says:

    what Kanye did is embarrass Beyonce!
    I felt bad for both Beyonce and Taylor Swift.

    Why is Kanye allowed at the MTV award shows… last year he went on a rant on his blog and said he didn’t win any awards b/c MTV is racist.

  56. m2 says:

    from James O’Keefe Twitter:

    NBC: “We don’t offer public apologies. We are hear to cover the news…” Me: “No deal.”

  57. m2 says:

    that was MTV europe!

    he said “Ah hell no, … *beep* *beep* share the wealth” … “If I don’t win this award show loses credibility”…

  58. samiam60 says:

    I think the biggest problem in calling black on white fights racist is that if you accuse a black person of attacking someone that is white of racism he/she than says: You are only saying that because I am black. It is a catch 22 if there ever was one.

  59. m2 says:

    Vintage Kanye, after 48 sec mark is the injection of “race” even though prior to that he was whining about the black eyed peas winning (hello will.i.am)

  60. tellitlikeitis says:

  61. samiam60 says:

    Good Video M2. Perhaps his problem is his limited vocabulary?

  62. m2 says:

    The saddest part of Obama economics…

    I just had a guy knock on my door who talked to the previous owners about re-paving our driveway… and he was desperate for work.

    And I also had the Tru Green guy call me begging for to come and spray our grass again this year, he says business is horrible b/c people are cutting him out of their budgets,

    And last week, I was doing a print piece for this woman and the printing company that she is working with was trying to solicit work from me! Begging me on the phone!

    it’s so sad.

  63. samiam60 says:

    Tellit, your video you posted says it all:


  64. m2 says:

    I’m sorry but how are kids born with prejudice. I don’t get it.

    Liberals are fools.

    I won’t even humor this notion that they are sensationalizing any longer.

    Campbell Brown is Grade A Idiot.
    She’s the muck of a journalist shoe. She should have stuck to Fluffy BS of Today show Weekend. She looked more intellectual talking about sun tan lotion and flip flops.

  65. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2, I though we were out of the recession. I thought bernake said it was over. Hmmmm. It doesn’t sound like it to me.

  66. m2 says:

    sam, don’t worry about it… in the hisorical sense, instant gratification of sensationalism and stirring hate will never last against the long run power of Truth and Goodness.

    Liberal play a losing game every time.

  67. samiam60 says:

    M2 says:

    The saddest part of Obama economics…

    I just had a guy knock on my door who talked to the previous owners about re-paving our driveway… and he was desperate for work.

    And I also had the Tru Green guy call me begging for to come and spray our grass again this year, he says business is horrible b/c people are cutting him out of their budgets,

    And last week, I was doing a print piece for this woman and the printing company that she is working with was trying to solicit work from me! Begging me on the phone!

    it’s so sad.

    M2, I have so very many friends in the Auto business who are desperate right now. They still have not been paid for the cash for clunkers program. What many don’t know is the salesman don’t get paid till the dealership get their money.
    What makes it even worse is since the Cash for Clunkers ended so did sales in the auto business. All that program did was bring in future buyers and there is a huge void now as consumers wait for the next huge sale to come out.

  68. m2 says:

    Tellit, I remember Obama said we were back from the brink about 12 times over his Reign…

    same thing with the FEDS.

    It’s what they say to lead the sheeple. Meanwhile CPUSA.org is pumping out statement after statement congratulating the Obama Administration on their gradual economic slide to communism by creating economic decay.

  69. m2 says:

    creating and fostering economic decay…

    that sense goes really well with Science Czar John Holdren talk about redistribution (ie. communism ie. economic suicide)

  70. tellitlikeitis says:

    Cash for clunkers screwed the auto industry. The short term boost is going to kill sales for months to come. The people that wanted new cars bought them during the program and sales will be flat for many months as a result of it.

  71. tellitlikeitis says:

    It won’t be long before we are begging and bartering.

  72. m2 says:

    It also offed perfectly good used cars that many POOR and TEENS could have had!

    Obama is a crewel marxist.

  73. tellitlikeitis says:

    Anybody know where Rose has been?

  74. m2 says:

    Even my husband wanted a Used cheap car to replace his Chevy Prism, lol…

  75. tellitlikeitis says:

    I heard someone tell me over the weekend that they are pouring something in the motor of the clunkers to trash them but they are parting the bodies out to junk yards and not crushing them.

  76. m2 says:

    it truly is the ‘looney’ Left.

    There’s no better adjective to describe Lefties running the ‘business’ of the country.

  77. samiam60 says:

    Is there any way I can see the Beck show on this computer?????
    I do not have cable anymore, it was part of the “Change you can believe in program”

  78. samiam60 says:

    I could run up and watch it at best buy but they didn’t seem to appreciate me there last time.

  79. samiam60 says:

    Joe is taking another beating from Congress:

    Joe should just moon Pelosi. He already has been flogged enough might as well make it worth while.

  80. samiam60 says:

    I am gonna need a lot of details when you folks get back here after watching Beck. 😦

  81. samiam60 says:

    From Sarah Palin’s speech at the RNC:

    “I’m not a member of the permanent political establishment. And I’ve learned quickly, these past few days, that if you’re not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that rea…son alone.
    But here’s a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I’m not going to Washington to seek their good opinion — I’m going to Washington to serve the people of this country. Americans expect us to go to Washington for the right reasons, and not just to mingle with the right people.”
    -Sarah Palin

  82. m2 says:

    ah ha ha.. little e. says she “poop pooped” and demands I “change it”

  83. m2 says:

    ACORN break with census False, they just will be going by COI:

    “We’ve known for many months now that the name ACORN is going to be retired,” [Marcel] Reid said. “The name has been so damaged to the point where the leadership knows it simply can’t go on as it has with the ACORN label out front and center, especially after all of the reporting.”

    In fact, the process has already begun, she noted. Wade Rathke, who founded the organization, announced on his blog that ACORN International has officially changed its name to “Community Organizations International.”


  84. m2 says:

    karma, love your new site design!

  85. samiam60 says:

    3 minuets till As the Acorn Turns.

  86. karmahd says:

    Thanks M2, I made it for short posts since I will not have time to write the longer ones that often. Thanks for stopping by

  87. m2 says:

    O M G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  88. samiam60 says:

    I have been abandoned for Beck 😦

  89. m2 says:

    She killed her husband!

    This is sick!
    This is escandalo!!!!

  90. m2 says:

    Beck says see if the media or ACORN report this… this is crazy!

    This is going to have to make ACORN a story, this woman just said she killed her husband to James and Hannah.

  91. samiam60 says:

    Okay, since the dems needed to rebuke Congressman Wilson, the GOP leadership better go after Rangel for tax fraud, Tax Cheat Geitner and the rest of the corrupt bunch. Cause if they don’t go after them with a vengence, we need to replace them a…s well! Stop rolling over and playing dead. We need a BARACUDA!

  92. samiam60 says:

    Thanks M2 for the updates.

  93. m2 says:

    I – Have – goosebumps….

    Beck just defeated with words the charge of McCarthyism, the power of congress and the one man who stood against it- Edward R. Murrow. W/ no help from media or reps in congress…

    and he said how people are going against him for speaking about Van Jones and playing Van Jones own words- and wow…

    Beck was inspired just then.

  94. m2 says:

    beck talking about Arlen Spector wanting to look into the Patriot video scandal last year…

    Henry Waxman hot on baseball steroid scandals….

    but no one interested in a group that could receive 8.5 bill from stimulus and has a seat at the President’s table…

  95. samiam60 says:

    They passed resolution against Wilson. They just set a precedent -it will back fire!

  96. Foxwood says:

    I hate on call Sami. I only have to work one night that it wipes me out. I did catch Glenn’s show.

    The couple went to California, I think LA, and did the same sting. The woman at the front desk talked about her days as a hooker and her husband a pimp. He was abusive. She admitted to setting up an alibi before killing her husband.

  97. samiam60 says:

    Thank you for that M2.
    This could be bigger than Watergate

  98. samiam60 says:

    Thanks Foxwood. I do hope this brings down alot of Congressmen and who knows maybe even the Enchanted One will fall. How deep is the Rabbit Hole?

  99. Foxwood says:

    They can’t look into ACORN. It will bring down alot of Senators and Congressmen… Congresspeople. I bet Congress will fight this Tooth, Fang and Claw.

  100. samiam60 says:

    Why is CNN and MSNBC, ABC,NBC,CBS, all reporting about Wilson and Not the huge Scandal with Acorn?

  101. Foxwood says:

    Where is the Attorney General?

  102. Foxwood says:

    Watch this cartoon and see if one of the characters doesn’t sound like a tax bedeviled congressman from New York.

  103. arlenearmy says:

    Dam shame what they did to that kid on the bus. See, my position about the Pennsylvania pool incident still stands. I supported the swim club. That’s when bus load of black kids descended on a predominately white swimming pool.

    Apparently, it was a logistical nightmare due to too many kids in the pool. But when the swim club members got out of pool, the black adults played the race card. Yet, when a white kid gets on bus full of black kids & gets beat up, the news don’t want to cover the story.

    THE SOLUTION: Do not go alone in mixed company. If you congregate, do so w/mind-like folks. Scope out certain neighborhoods/communities (from a distance) before you enter.

  104. arlenearmy says:

    the point I was trying to make is that:

    1. the white kid gets on black bus & get severely beaten up by black kids.


    2. Black kids by the bus load gets dumped off at white swimming pool; but black kids DO NOT get beat up. All the white kids did was FLEE.

  105. arlenearmy says:

    The other media outlets are reporting on Wilson vote instead of ACORN because they are treating this like a game.

    And its a very dangerous one.

  106. ohiobelle says:

    Obama & Co are driving me NUTS!!!! I’ve decided that I am not paying my taxes if one single penny of our tax dollars goes to ACORN! Obama may support murder, prostitution, tax evasion and human trafficking but I do not! I am not paying 1 dime because I believe it will go to ACORN!

    I am glad Joe Wilson is standing his ground! Those socialist bastards owe him an apology!!

  107. arlenearmy says:

    M2 said:
    “beck talking about Arlen Spector wanting to look into the Patriot video scandal last year…”


    My take on this:
    Spector is full of shit & he sells himself REAL CHEAP.

    Remember he:
    1. was republican & then turned democrat – playing political game. Obama aint gonna spend lot of time & energy campaigning for Spector.

    2. Spector claimed he was gonna investigate the case of bus loaded black kids not welcomed w/open arms at white swimming pool. He plays race card game. Tyler Perry got tired of waiting on Spector, so Tyler took them to Disney Land (which is what he should had done in the 1st damn place)

    3. He claimed he was gonna investigate matter of the Veterans Death Book. He plays the veterans card. Veterans got NO results & have not heard from Spector on this. We are still waiting!

    Spector is all used up. He needs to be counseled by ACORN to learn how to pimp himself off to get greater return.

  108. ohiobelle says:

    I am starting my own community organization; The Patriot Party! I don’t want 1 god darn dime from our pathetic corrupt government!

  109. ohiobelle says:

    The first thing on our agenda is to IMPEACH OBAMA!!

  110. karmahd says:

    I just posted this on my moonbat video page it is fricking funny!!!!

  111. arlenearmy says:

    LaHood is telling auto dealers that the check is in the mail.

  112. arlenearmy says:

    Is the new group something like a tea party or 912 group ?

  113. ohiobelle says:

    hello Karma!!

    Remember when the anointed one of the Union States of America spoke out of line and said “it was a teachable moment”, well they sure are throwing Joe Wilson under the bus! What happened to “teachable moments”???? I guess that’s only applied if the moonbats are out of line! UGH!!!

  114. arlenearmy says:

    You’re right about what out tax $$ will be used for. ACORN, according to the latest sting video, they even advise folks on how to do prep work before committing murder.

  115. ohiobelle says:

    Hello Arlene!

    Is the new group something like a tea party or 912 group ?

    Yes. We are still working out the details but we are hoping to finalize the details soon.

    I couldn’t believe the ACORN worker told them that she killed her husband. What kind of group is this?? How could Obama defend them in court?? How could anybody defend their actions??

  116. ohiobelle says:

    I do not support the way our corrupt government spends our hard earned tax dollars. I honestly will not be paying my taxes if I think 1 penny is going towards ACORN.

  117. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene wrote: LaHood is telling auto dealers that the check is in the mail.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Trust me when I say the auto dealers are not holding their breath. Check in the mail??? lol hahahaha… It will probably bounce.

  118. ohiobelle says:

    I thought this was an interesting read…

    Unbeknown to most investors, the Obama administration is planning quietly to devalue the U.S. dollar even MORE. The decision has been made . . . and it’s working.

    Obama adviser Warren Buffett accidentally revealed in a recent CNBC interview what the Administration REALLY has planned all along.

    Buffett told the interviewer that the United States will do what
    every other country has done when faced with huge obligations
    and decreasing revenues — inflate (devalue) the currency!

    The reason is simple.

    The Democrats have waited nearly 30 years, ever since Ronald Reagan was elected, to begin spending money on social programs again.

    They’re not about to let a global economic wipeout stand in their way.

    Deliberately devaluing the U.S. dollar will make U.S. government debt obligations less onerous, American exports relatively cheap, and rally the stock market.

    There is only one problem with their plan!

    By causing inflation to soar, it will wipe out the life savings of generations . . . and destroy the U.S. economy for decades to come . . .

  119. arlenearmy says:

    If that Acorn lady was not making up this story, I suspect the cops are digging up the case. I’m sure that woman is shitting bullets by now.

    And I agree… Obama can not defend this.

    btw, I wonder who that younger man was in the acorn office. Is he that woman’s boyfriend.

  120. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene, I wonder if Obama will even address the ACORN issue? Obama is just as corrupt as the organization he spent years trying to protect!

  121. m2 says:

    WASHINGTON -Congressman Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the Financial Services Committee, today called for an end to federal funding for ACORN, a leftwing activist group linked to voter registration fraud and other criminal activity.

    Bachus today became an original cosponsor of the Defund ACORN Act, which would eliminate all ties, including financial support, between the government and the organization. He also signed a letter to President Obama demanding a termination of taxpayer assistance to the group.

    Congressman Bachus said, “Taxpayer funding for ACORN’s far left agenda must end now. It is unconscionable to use the hard-earned money of the American taxpayer to support a radical organization that has repeatedly been embroiled in scandal and shady activity. This is an outrageous use of public money and the ties must be cut off immediately and permanently.”

    According to one analysis of budget data, the federal government has awarded more than $53 million in direct funding to ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) since 1994. ACORN fraudulently registered thousands of voters during last year’s elections and has been investigated for other potentially illegal activities. Last week, the U.S. Census Department said it would not allow ACORN to officially assist with the 2010 census count, citing a lack of confidence in the organization.

    As Ranking Member on the House Financial Services Committee, Bachus has spotlighted funding that ACORN has received from the Department of Housing and Urban Development and formally requested Chairman Barney Frank to hold hearings on the group’s alleged abuse of taxpayer funds.

    October 14, 2008

    Republican Members of the Financial Services Committee, led by Ranking Member Spencer Bachus, urged Committee Chairman Barney Frank today to invite former executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to testify at the scheduled hearing on October 21 on restructuring and reform of the financial system.

    Republican Members also requested hearings on alleged abuses by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which receives significant funding from Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

    Click here to see a copy of the letter.

    The letter is signed by the following members: Boehner, Bachus, Pearce, Neugebauer, Paul, Lucas, Heller, Campbell, Royce, Manzullo, Jones, Hensarling, McHenry, Pryce, Feeney, Gerlach, King, Price, Barrett, Bachmann, Brown-Waite, Roskam, Davis, Shays, Garrett, Capito, McCarthy, McCotter, and Putnam.

  122. ohiobelle says:

    For ACORN to say that this is an attack by Fox is insane! If they honestly believed that then they wouldn’t have fired their employees!

  123. m2 says:

    Charlie Gibson is an obsolete HACK.

  124. ohiobelle says:

    Hello M2!

    I am so friggen sick and tired of our corrupt media and government!!! I CAN’T STAND IT ANYMORE!!!

  125. m2 says:

    Belle, Arlene… ACORN is run by Wade Rathke (after Dale embezzled 1 mill (of our tax money) with no penalty), and Dale runs SEIU.

    And Obama‘s in the White House.


  126. m2 says:

    Hope you are feeling better Ohiobelle… did you see my comments from Sunday? That was a very sad game against USC.

  127. samhenry says:

    Hi belle, Arlene -M2. Everyone in my area that I have talked with are just down about the nation generally.

    M2 – I sent you an e-mail.

  128. ohiobelle says:

    I think it’s time to start posting the following…


  129. m2 says:

    Oh sorry SH! I always forget to check my email!

  130. ohiobelle says:

    He was only elected President because of his corrupt and criminal ties to ACORN! WHEN ACORN FALLS THEN ALL THE NUTS SHOULD FOLLOW… INCLUDING OBAMA HIMSELF!

  131. arlenearmy says:

    I just saw on Oreilly where someone from ACORN was talking. I think his name is Levin or something like that. Maybe I read it wrong.

  132. samhenry says:

    I am so tired of racism against whites I could honestly hurl.

  133. m2 says:

    I love that Angela lady!

  134. m2 says:

    oh it was their “spokesperson”, Arlene… and he was irrational. ACORN is corrupt to the core. The rot of society.

    That “spokesperson” is just trying to rile up the looney left by dropping “fox news” blame.

  135. Foxwood says:

    I seriously think Congress will fight tooth and nail to keep ACORN from being investigated. There are too many politicians involved. I would be suprised if the Attorney General does anything.

  136. m2 says:

    looking at a tweeter from the trending topic: ACORN, this guys says that Obama tells the MSM NOT to report Acorn…. intimidation. Says “Obama already told MSM not to report ACORN or else”

  137. Foxwood says:

    “I love that Angela lady!”

    She’s hot!

  138. m2 says:

    ACORN Franks and friends caused the sub-prime crisis!

    F the Left!!!!!!!

  139. m2 says:

    remember the Stalinist FightTheSmears site where Obama denied his past….

    yeah I remember.

    F the media!!!

    Now I’m fired up all over again.

  140. m2 says:

    this is not the government people want- abject fear, cynicism, accusations of racism at every policy disagreement, billions-trillions funneled to corrupted organizations, many of them communist and radical….

    abject fear.

    this is ridiculous.
    All those corrupt Democrats walking around FLAUNTING their corruption and saying everyone is racist (Rangel said that)….

    What the ???

  141. ohiobelle says:

    Oh my god!! UGH! Is anybody watching CSPAN??? Check out the witch hunt against Joe Wilson! OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT!!

  142. ohiobelle says:

    Joe Wilson should stand his ground! Do not apologize to those socialist pigs!!!

  143. ohiobelle says:

    This would be my apology… I am sorry you friggen idiots didn’t read the friggen bill!! OBAMA IS A LIAR!

  144. ohiobelle says:

    Joe Wilson is a Patriot! He has served this country for 25 years and his 4 sons are serving in the military! What has any of the socialist moonbats done but destroy this country!

  145. m2 says:

    he didn’t…. trust belle… this Joe Wilson thing is just a hunk of blood rare meet for the rabid hateful left. Their guy is failing they need more misery and scorn… it’s like the Roman circus… where people are thrown to lions and stuff.

    People identify more w/Joe who rightly called them for their games, and also MOST PEOPLE realize, the issue was OBAMA LIED.

    Which he did.

    Which is why they changed the House Bill on Friday.

  146. m2 says:

    I mean “meat”

  147. ohiobelle says:

    Good Job Boehner!!!

  148. samiam60 says:

    In response to a troll defending CNN and their worthiness.

    Fox news has brought forth all the important news about Acorn that well may be the biggest scandal since watergate. CNN only gave it a mere mention and they DID NOT break the story but rather hid it till there was no choice.
    If CNN is all you watch then unfortunately you only know what they want you to know. The 9/12 rally in DC? Barely a word said of it except criticism of American’s exercising their first amendment rights. You know, Free Speech.
    By the way Shouting Joe caused Obama to have to insert law into the health care bill regarding citizenship. Cause he lied.
    Van Jones was reported by CNN long after Fox had not only broke the story but infact exposed the facts concerning Van Jones.
    This is an embarrassment to Obama and all liberals and it is only the beginning of We The People exposing all of the corruption and Socialist agenda’s of this administration. So much for transparency when corruption is uncovered almost daily now. CNN should be ashamed for Censoring all the facts in a story and trying to slant the news in favor of Liberals Socialist ideals.
    The 9/12 protest march on DC was a huge embarrassment for this administration and all Socialist Progressive Liberals.

  149. ohiobelle says:

    M2 wrote: this Joe Wilson thing is just a hunk of blood rare meet for the rabid hateful left.


  150. m2 says:

    Even worse for the rabid Left is Obama can’t be an outward lunatic Leftist like they thought he could when they voted for him, so that’s why the reps in congress are wasting time on Wilson….

    Obama hasn’t made anything better.

    And he hasn’t done anything for his base, except usher in his Corporate Elite who backed him -ACORN and SEIU, and Soros.

  151. ohiobelle says:

    Sam wrote: This is an embarrassment to Obama and all liberals and it is only the beginning of We The People exposing all of the corruption and Socialist agenda’s of this administration. So much for transparency when corruption is uncovered almost daily now. CNN should be ashamed for Censoring all the facts in a story and trying to slant the news in favor of Liberals Socialist ideals.

    I couldn’t agree with you more!!!

  152. m2 says:

    the Unions and ACORNS are the new Coporatism sucking and using the system, but Demoncrats still hold the old Corporate sector, ie. Fannie Freddie, lawyer lobby, Hedge Funders… etc. etc.

    Remember, who did Madoff “donate” his hard “earned” millions to?


  153. arlenearmy says:

    What’s troubling me about this Acorn revelation is reminiscent of what STILL goes on in the welfare projects & impoverish black neighborhoods. These government housing are ran like brothels.

    There are pre-teen & teen age girls prostituting in the welfare projects. Some of girls are young as 10 yrs. old. This is no secret. Folks, this is the honest to God truth !!!

    I visited my folks last yr. & visited my niece who was living in the welfare projects. I was very troubled by what I saw. There were babies having babies. Grown men leaving the apartments w/a pre-teen dressed in daisy dukes. Some girls were in back seat of car sitting on old gray headed men laps. But the government WILL NOT do anything about it.

    I was brought up in the ghettos as a child. Fortunately, I joined the Army which was my permanent way out of the hood. But I shall never forget what I have witnessed.

    It becomes a way of life for those poor girls & it becomes a vicious cycle. If you call the welfare department or government agency, they will hang up the phone on you. I remember CPS told me to mind my own business & they asked me why I was reporting this. Also, they were very rude to me on the phone.

    I pray to GOD that the government no longer turn a blind eye. Those young girls can not leave on their own. They are born into this life & trapped in the ghettos. And ACORN & Democratic party knows this.

    The salvation is to stay safe til they join the military or run away from home at a very early age. But to remain in that cess pool is to die. I do understand why some descent neighborhoods do not want those girls in their good neighborhoods. Part of the refusal to help those girls is partly due to the low-life dead beat thuggish men who come w/them as a package deal.

  154. ohiobelle says:

    Obama is trying to play peacemaker again. He was actually commenting today on the Kayne West and Taylor Swift deal. WILL OBAMA EVER LEARN?? Maybe he’ll invite them over for root beer!!

  155. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene wrote: What’s troubling me about this Acorn revelation is reminiscent of what STILL goes on in the welfare projects & impoverish black neighborhoods. These government housing are ran like brothels.

    Yes they are and now we have to pay for their abortions!! UGH!!!!!

  156. ohiobelle says:

    I’d rather be paying for swine odor!!! Oh yea, we are paying for that. sorry.

  157. m2 says:

    Arlene, what Democrats have promised to impoverished communities and what they have USED them for —$$$$$$$$, and left them in corrupted shambles is nothing short of disgusting.

    And shaming.

    And they still lie to them and keep them down.

  158. samhenry says:

    Hello – I need to know what MSM is?

    Who is this Angela?

    Who am I? Oh, dear; game over.

  159. m2 says:

    The Democrats foster a sense of Mistrust with the poor and minorities for their own Power and fatcat lifestyles… and circus ring-leading ALL FOR SHOW. So that a man that is as corrupt as Rangel who’s sits on the WEIGHS AND MEANS committee yet avoids taxes can call anyone who criticizes him a “racist” and stay there day after day!

    Republicans have never come near this level of arrogant corruption.

  160. m2 says:

    MSM = MainStream Media…

    though you should probably just call them “Liberal Media” or “State-run media”

    Angela is just a news analyst that appeared on O’reilly tonight.


  161. m2 says:

    check out this brave visionary congressman from back in November:

    Congressman Warns of Obama Dictatorship
    Monday, November 10, 2008 6:44 PM

    WASHINGTON — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.

    “It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force,” Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. “I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism.”

    Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

    “That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”

    Obama’s comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation’s foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps “to renew our diplomacy.”

    “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

  162. ohiobelle says:

    Sam wrote: Who am I? Oh, dear; game over.


    This is great. I am drawing a picture of Uncle Sam kicking Big Brothers ass… lol I might have to post this picture when I get done.

  163. ohiobelle says:

    M2 wrote: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”


  164. m2 says:

    listen to this ASSCAN Gibson try to obfuscate the ACORN rot….

    Don: Okay, here’s my news question. A Senate bill yesterday passes, cutting off funds to this group called ACORN. Now, we got that bill passed and we have the embarrassing video of ACORN staffers giving tax advice on how to set up a brothel with 13-year-old hookers. It has everything you could want – corruption and sleazy action at tax-funded organizations and it’s got government ties. But nobody’s covering that story. Why?

    Gibson: HAHAHAHAHA. HEHEHE. I didn’t even know about it. Um. So, you’ve got me at a loss. I don’t know. Uh. Uh. But my goodness, if it’s got everything including sleaziness in it, we should talk about it this morning.

    Roma: This is the American way!

    Gibson: Or maybe this is just one you leave to the cables.

    Roma: Well, I think this is a huge issue because there’s so much funding that goes into this organization…

    Gibson: I know we’ve done some stories about ACORN before, but this one I don’t know about…

    Roma: Jake Tapper did some blogging on it. I know he’s blogged at least once on this scandal.
    Gibson: You guys are uh really up on the website.

  165. m2 says:

    Gibson meaning “Charlie Gibson” Anchor of ABC World News at 6pm.


    what a jackoff!

  166. m2 says:

    On September 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Charles Gibson and the rest of the media HAVE NO CHOICE but to do what they are doing. There is an old saying, “You have to pick the hill you want to die on.”
    The media will bitterly contest this story in order to kill it or “die on the hill” trying. They have no choice, because they know where this story leads……….to the front door of the White House.
    The Democrats in Congress, the RNC, the NEA, the AFL-CIO, SEIU, and Organizing for America all have strong links to ACORN. David Axelrod sent e-mails from the White House to people who NEVER had emailed they White House. Just where do you think he got them? Of course they are exchanging data and information, as well as cooperating fully.
    Obama was a lawyer and community organizer for ACORN. You know intuitively, he still have links to them. They helped him gain the White House. Logically things will be coordinated through the White House.
    If properly investigated, this will make Watergate look like a parking violation. People like Charles Gibson are FULLY AWARE of that. They can’t let this story be taken to its logical conclusion.

  167. Foxwood says:

    There is a 5th ACORN tape coming out tomorrow on Hannity.

  168. samiam60 says:

    M2 says:

    Gibson meaning “Charlie Gibson” Anchor of ABC World News at 6pm.


    what a jackoff!


    Very descriptive.

  169. arlenearmy says:

    I got a brother in Houston who is sort of a simple minded person. He hardly watches the news & he does not watch foxnews. And he’s not a news/political junkie. He dont even have internet connection at his house.

    Even he knows about this Acorn news. He said that there’s an ACORN in Houston that’s crooked & a racket.

    So I think Gibson is lying.

  170. m2 says:

    Teachers taking paycuts while their Union pays off ACORN and no one knows where the money is going for!

    Teachers unions have contributed over $1.3 million to ACORN
    Commentary Staff Writer
    09/13/09 4:59 PM EDT

    Teachers unions have contributed over $1.3 million to ACORN and its affiliates, since 2005, according to U.S. Labor Department financial disclosure forms.

    But there is no guarantee that the $1,333,112 million in donations from the National Education Association (NEA) and Teachers AFL-CIO unions are actually being used for their stated purposes, according to present and former Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) officials.

    Some of the larger donations include $100,000 from the NEA in 2008 and $200,000 in 2007 for political activities. The Teachers AFL-CIO Local Union 2 contributed $406,730 in 2008, $457,778 in 2007, and $346,300 in 2006 for representational activities.

    Now that ACORN staffers have been caught on video helping a man and woman posing as a pimp and a prostitute acquire illegal home loans to set up a brothel it is imperative that these organizations reconsider their support, said Ron Sykes, treasurer for ACORN’s Washington D.C. branch.

    Both the NEA and Teachers AFL-CIO advertise as strong advocates for children. ACORN staffers in Baltimore were caught on video instructing James O’Keefe, the undercover filmmaker, and his partner Hannah Giles how they could falsify documents and obtain benefits for 13 “very young girls” from El Salvador.
    Sykes and other insiders are now active with ACORN 8, a whistleblower group of present and former officials with the group who have repeatedly called for greater accountability and transparency on the part of ACORN’s leadership.

    ACORN 8 activists claim the national leadership maintains centralized control over financial transactions through Citizens Consulting Inc. (CCI), a New Orleans based non-profit. Federal tax documents show links between ACORN affiliates and CCI.

    “They’re corporate gangsters,” said Sykes. “This episode with the video shows they really have no scruples and the teachers unions and anyone else making donations need to become aware of what’s happening and what this could mean for young people. I also find it interesting that one of ACORN’s campaigns was for immigration. Apparently, if they don’t get the legislation they want they will use any means necessary to get people into the country.”

    Although ACORN moved quickly to the fire the workers, the real blame and responsibility should rest with the leadership and with the national board, said Michael McCray the spokesman for ACORN 8.

    “There’s a drastic need for an investigation and a forensic audit,” McCray said. “Until this happens, any funding for ACORN should be withheld. A lot of people on the right would like to see ACORN shut down but that’s not our position. We favor reform.”


  171. ohiobelle says:

    Foxwood wrote: There is a 5th ACORN tape coming out tomorrow on Hannity.

    I hope it all comes out!! I would love to see Fox bring down ACORN!!

    It’s been alot of fun but I am going to have to call it a night. I’ll be back tomorrow after work.
    Night all..

  172. arlenearmy says:

    5th tape? In what State?

  173. ohiobelle says:

    M2 wrote: Teachers taking paycuts while their Union pays off ACORN and no one knows where the money is going for!

    That is so wrong!! UNIONS SUCK!

  174. Foxwood says:

    He didn’t say. Said it would be as bad if not worse than the one today.

    JC Watts is on right now. I love those good old Okie boys.

  175. m2 says:

    I think Gibson sounded like a doof trying to cover for Obama precisely because this corruption that leads to the Oval Office is the most shocking glaringly obvious corruption ever undertaken by politicians.

    Arlene said:
    I got a brother in Houston who is sort of a simple minded person. He hardly watches the news & he does not watch foxnews. And he’s not a news/political junkie. He dont even have internet connection at his house.

    Even he knows about this Acorn news. He said that there’s an ACORN in Houston that’s crooked & a racket.

    So I think Gibson is lying.

  176. m2 says:

    belle -unions are like microcosms of socialism… everyone strong armed to the same will and a handful of elites deciding their choices and squandering their dues!!

  177. arlenearmy says:

    In Oklahoma there is a democrat congressman named Dan Boren. I am trying to find the house vote on Wilson. I wonder how Boren voted.

  178. m2 says:

    the only difference is that it is a fantasy-socialism, where while the ppl give up freedom and dues- they get cadillac perks, pensions and benefits…

    and obviously, that fantasy is hitting boiling point. Insert Obama, the Marxist.

    Who will instrument Unions into Gov’t and all the free people left will be “bailing out” their fantasy Socialism.

  179. m2 says:

    bleary eyes… time to turn off the computer…

    night belle, arlene, fox, sam- SH went to bed already…


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  181. Foxwood says:

    My mom Speak highly of Dan Boren JR. I remember his daddy. He was pretty conservative, but that doesn’t mean anything about JR.

  182. arlenearmy says:


    Carter is playing the race card

  183. Foxwood says:

    I got to head out the door again… work calls.

  184. arlenearmy says:

    I hear that Boren Sr. was a greater man than Jr.

    Dan Boren, from what I saw at the townhall meeting, appears like a nervous young man & has a whimpy persona. He dances around questions & he can get cocky.

    His 2 BIGGEST problems are (which may cost him the re-election:
    1. democrat card-holders in Oklahoma are not the same democrats when his daddy was in office

    2. Obama is in office.

  185. arlenearmy says:

    Jimmy the peanut Carter is full of it.

    How does Carter think Obama got into office. Believe me, it was not black folks alone who got Obama in office. And white folks voted for Obama inspite of Jerimiah Wright.

  186. samhenry says:

    Arlene – you are so right. Jimmy Carter is 85 years old. End of story.

    As on of the Republicans who voted for Obama – I am racist only every other Friday when I race for the door to go out with my pals.

  187. karmahd says:

    11:30 no mention of the Acorn issue on CNN.

  188. arlenearmy says:

    I am truly shocked about CNN & the other networks. What they are doing is displaying arrogance against the people.

    Im gonna call my brother tomorrow to ask him how he found out about this Acorn scandal.

  189. karmahd says:

    I would like to know, I am gonna post on ACORN tomorrow, I see the momentum growing for the ending of funding for them, next Sieu or whatever the spinoff of ACORN is and is just as corrupt.

    The attorney general will have no choice but to investagate, hell he is looking into the CIA non event that happened in 2004!!!!!

    Throw them all in jail, cut them off!!

  190. karmahd says:

    Arlene the above was to you forgot to address the comment to you,,,

  191. arlenearmy says:

    What’s interesting is what certain democrats think of folks who go to tea parties.

    I got another brother (a real live bigot) who responded that folks who go to Tea parties are the ones who:

    1. are into the idea of America & talk about loving America
    2. Wave the American flag
    3. Chant U-S-A
    3. like Country & Western Music
    4. Wear patriotic clothing
    5. Mostly white
    6. Talk about upholding the Constitution; &
    7. Love the military

    I told him that what he depicted was a portrayal of something positive. He responded that it was not for Black people & Black America.

    This is very sad. But there are some black folks who are patriotic & they are being intimidated by these militant anti-American blacks.

    The main reason why my eldest brother is no longer allowed on our property is because he said that he would rather see this country burn down to the ground & be literally destroy if it is not handed over to the black people. I never thought in my wildest dream that there could be people like that in this world.

  192. Foxwood says:

    I have my doubts that it will be investigated, because there will be to many politicians involved that will put roadblocks in place to stop it. But if it is investigated I predict half of Congress will be involved.

  193. Foxwood says:

    I’ve never met anyone anti-American before Arlene, but I’ve seen the rhetoric on the internet and thought it was unbelievable.

  194. Foxwood says:

    This is a K-FOX twin spin!

  195. Foxwood says:

    And the original…

  196. samiam60 says:


  197. samiam60 says:


    Obama Collecting Web Users’ Data
    The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users.

    The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users, a failure that appears to run counter to President Obama’s promise of a transparent government and his pledge to protect privacy on the Internet, the Washington Times reported.

    Marc Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said the White House signaled that it would insist on open dealings with Internet users and, in fact, should feel obliged to disclose that it is collecting such information.

    “The White House has not been adequately transparent, particularly on how it makes use of new social media techniques, such as this example,” he said.

    Defenders of the White House actions said the Presidential Records Act requires that the administration gather the information and that it was justified in taking the additional step of asking a private contractor to “crawl and archive” all such material. Nicholas Shapiro, a White House spokesman, declined to say when the practice began or how much the new contract would cost.

    Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for National Archives and Records Administration, said the presidential records law applies to “social media” and to public comments “received by the president or immediate staff.”

  198. rhayes says:

    Good morning VF and all. Thought I would drop in for a moment to say this is a great blog. I totally agree. The problem with the healthcare is that the number of people out weigh the number of doctors. There will not be enough doctors to cover everyone and people will be on a waiting list to see one. The gov is not going to pay the full cost just like medicaid and medicare or the insurance companies get out of. I absolutely see no cap on healthcare. It will always go up up up….got to go to work now…have a great day.

  199. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!

    Obama’s Student Loan Plan: A Government Takeover Few Can Argue With

    On its face, it would seem to be a gift to Barack Obama’s conservative critics, who have spent the summer painting the new Democratic President as a socialist eager to nationalize the entire health-care system. After all, the Administration’s proposal to restructure the student loan industry is, in many respects, much closer to an actual government takeover than its relatively tame market-driven health reform plan. But as the House holds hearings and looks likely to pass the plan this week, it’s clear that the education overhaul is not going to be quite the high-pitched battle that both opponents and the White House once expected it to be.

    It was only a few months ago that Obama made clear that he was expecting a fight over the biggest change in the federal student loan program since its 1965 creation. “The banks and the lenders who have reaped a windfall…have mobilized an army of lobbyists to try to keep things the way they are,” he said in April. “They are gearing up for battle. So am I.”
    (See the 10 greatest speeches of all time.)

    Obama’s rhetoric was understandable. His plan is to do away with a system in which the federal government subsidizes banks and other private finance companies such as Sallie Mae to lend money to students. The Administration essentially wants to cut such companies out of the game completely and run the whole system itself. Democrats claim the move will save $87 billion over ten years, which will be freed up for a laundry list of education priorities, including increasing the maximum amount of Pell Grants, expanding Perkins Loans, and investing in community colleges and other programs.
    (See pictures of a diverse group of American teens.)

    Many Republicans, not surprisingly, don’t see it that way. “This bill is a massive expansion of the federal government, pure and simple,” says Alexa Marrero, spokesperson for Congressman John Kline, the ranking Republican member of the House education committee.
    (See TIME’s special report on paying for college.)

    Educational institutions currently have two ways to offer federal loans to their students. In the first, the Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL, pronounced “fell”) program, the government pays subsidies to banks and lenders to dole out money to borrowers and reimburses companies up to 97% of the cost of any loan that is not paid back. The second option is the direct-loan program, created in 1993 as an alternate option, in which the government cuts out the middle man, lends money directly and gets all the profits. If the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act (SAFRA) passes both houses of Congress, the approximately 4,500 colleges and universities currently signed up for FFEL will have to abandon the program and start using the direct-loan option by July 1, 2010.

    The health-care debate would seem to only help critics of the student loan plan, who have no qualms about trying to link the two. “One of the points we’re making is that the parallels to the health care debate are really eerie,” says Marrero. “The direct-loan program was created as a ‘public option’ 16 years ago. It was touted as a form of competition that would encourage innovation and keep the industry honest. Sound familiar?” But rather than fuel significant opposition to the student loan plan, the health-care firestorm has ended up overshadowing it, making it harder for opponents to rally an effective counter-attack.
    (See the 25 best back-to-school gadgets.)

    Still, the bill could have a harder time in the Senate, where the Administration will need to cobble together 60 votes to prevent any threat of a filibuster. And those in the lending industry certainly aren’t giving up. “Ultimately, what they are trying to create here is the Post Office of student lending-you’ve got no choice,” says Jack Remondi, Vice Chairman and CFO of Sallie Mae, the nation’s largest lender, referring to Obama’s August 11 comments that questioned the efficiency of American letter carriers. “And this is the president’s initiative on health care: if you create competition, that should drive down costs and save people money.”

    The loan industry estimates that up to 35,000 jobs might be lost by the transfer from FFEL to direct-loan. And members of Congress who represent states that employ a large portion of the industy workforce, such as moderate Democratic Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska, have opposed the measure for that reason. But the Department of Education (which will run the new and expanded program) maintains that because Sallie Mae and several other companies will be kept on as contractors to “service” the loans — performing administrative tasks such as answering student inquiries and collecting payments — the total amount of jobs lost will actually be much less. It doesn’t hurt the Administration’s case that over a year ago, when the credit crunch paralyzed the markets, Congress had to pass a law allowing the Department of Education to buy student loans back from the lenders to ensure that money would continue to flow to students. Approximately three-quarters of the FFEL loans in the 2008-09 academic year were already in the hands of the government.

    Separate from the ideological tussle, university officials have their own concerns about the timing of the plan. While Education Department officials claim that most schools can easily make the transition from one system to another, some financial aid administrators are much more skeptical for a July 1 switchover. “All of our information for the 2010-2011 academic year is already printed,” says R. Dewey Knight, the University of Mississippi’s associate director of financial aid. “Colleges have a financial aid calendar that starts in November for the following year, not in July. I think the administration really believes you can just throw a switch and everything will change over. But as someone who actually has to throw that switch, I can tell you that there’s a bunch more switches behind that one that you don’t even see. It’s not that simple.” Still, for an Administration that fully expected a knock-down, drag-out fight over the student loan plan, those kinds of problems probably seem pretty easy to solve.


  200. tellitlikeitis says:

    Never Reviewed by NYT or WashPost, Mark Levin’s ‘Liberty and Tyranny’ Has Now Sold 1 Million Copies
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief

    (CNSNews.com) – Without ever having been reviewed by either the New York Times or the Washington Post, Mark Levin’s Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto has now sold one million copies, according to its publisher, Threshold Editions.

    Levin is a nationally syndicated radio host, president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, and served as chief of staff to Atty. Gen. Ed Meese in the Reagan Justice Department.

    Liberty and Tyranny has been riding high on non-fiction bestseller lists ever since it was released in late March. It debuted at No. 1 on the New York Times best seller list and has remained in the Top Ten on that list for 24 straight weeks. It is currently No. 7. (Levin’s previous two books, Men in Black: How the Supeme Court is Destroying America and Rescuing Sprite: A Dog Lover’s Story of Joy and Anguish, were also New York Times best sellers.)

    Despite Liberty and Tyranny’s tremendous sales and high ranking on the Times’ best seller list, the Times itself has never reviewed the book, only giving it a few blurbs in its ‘Inside the List” feature that runs in the Sunday edition.

    The Washington Post has also never reviewed the book.

    Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto lays out a vision for America that is rooted in the Constitution and in the Founding Fathers’ vision of strictly limited government and individual self-reliance. As such, its message stands in stark contrast to the agenda being advanced by President Barack Obama, which includes a government takeover of General Motors and a government makeover of the entire U.S. health care system.

  201. m2 says:

    You guys… remember I did that ireport in June on CPUSA meeting notes??? I just went back and looked at it. One of the lines from the meeting notes says this:

    “…The core of this struggle, whether we like it or not, turns on the inclusion of a public option in a health care bill.


  202. samhenry says:

    Hi all and a special hi to rhayes.

    rhayes – this issue of insufficient doctor coverage was raised on both my private blog at samandimp.wordpress.com as well as at (I believe I shared it) at votingfemalesfriendsspeak.wordpress.com. A lot of doctors’ offices will now rely more heavily on nurse practicioners. It is already happening in my area – used by doctors affiliated with U or Rochester’s Strong Health System.

  203. m2 says:

    have to step out… bbl!!

  204. tellitlikeitis says:

    SH, The untold story is we already have a doctor shortage. Could you imagine how strained the system will be if you add 10 to 20 million more to it. Rationed care and long waits for appointments will be the reality of it.

  205. samhenry says:

    Tellit – good research – I think I did a video on iReport for it. I know I took it up. I will add it to a blogpost on health care – perhaps update the one I already did on Fuzzy logic and link it properly here and at votingfemalesfriendsspeak.

    TX rhayes and Tellit

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  207. tellitlikeitis says:

    Recession Could Cost 25 Million Jobs
    Published: Wednesday, 16 Sep 2009 | 7:53 AM

    The economic downturn will likely cost as many as 25 million people their jobs by end-2010 as the unemployment rate nears a record 10 percent in the OECD group of countries, according to a report released on Wednesday.

    The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development said 15 million jobs were lost between end-2007 and July 2009 and 10 million more could go by the end of next year despite
    signs that the economy is picking up.

    “A major risk is that much of this large hike in unemployment becomes structural in nature,” the report said.

    The OECD-wide unemployment rate has already hit the highest on records going back to World War Two, surging to 8.3 percent by June 2009 from 5.6 percent at the end of 2007, the annual
    report from the Paris-based OECD said.

    The latest aggregate readout, for July, is 8.5 percent.

    Spain, Ireland and the United States were worst hit, with unemployment rates rising by 9.7 percentage points, 7.8 percentage points and 4.5 percentage points respectively between
    the start of 2007 and mid-2009, it said.

    “The labor market outlook would be even worse if governments has not pursued expansionary monetary and fiscal policy,” said the OECD, estimating that government spending on anti-recession projects will raise total employment next year by about 0.8-1.4 percent more than would otherwise have happened.

    This downturn is destroying considerably more jobs than other recessions since the early 1970s, the report says.

    Most of the world’s high-income countries and a few others are members of the OECD but others such as China and India are not.


  208. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning, Dears!

    You’all got mail!

  209. samhenry says:

    VF was there a global mailing? If so, I didn’t get it.

  210. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, I just checked my mail. Did you send anything to me? I have received nothing from you.

  211. VotingFemale says:

    I’m late getting on to the comment log… but have been real busy behind the blog scenes this AM… pant pant pant

    What do you all think of that MOONBAT MAURENE DOWD? AND HER RACE CARD BS?

  212. VotingFemale says:

    mmmm… let me fix that. brb

    Samhenry says

    VF was there a global mailing? If so, I didn’t get it.

  213. samiam60 says:

    After Obama goes on Letterman I am wondering if we will be seeing him on American IDOL next?

  214. VotingFemale says:

    Check you mail, SamH.

    sorry and embarrassed about that, dear!

  215. VotingFemale says:

    Or on “Survival” next…

    samiam60 says

    After Obama goes on Letterman I am wondering if we will be seeing him on American IDOL next?

  216. samhenry says:

    Thanks for saying you were embarrassed. It is impossible to see a CAT with a red face lol. I did not receive a global mailing – just an answer to a tech question.

  217. samhenry says:

    Obama on IDOL? More likely dancing with the stars – he thinks ALL of his moves are winning.

  218. VotingFemale says:

    I just sent you a copy of what I sent out….

    samhenry says

    Thanks for saying you were embarrassed. It is impossible to see a CAT with a red face lol. I did not receive a global mailing – just an answer to a tech question.

  219. samhenry says:

    Huff Post reporting Bacus blueprint that will be debated – health care proposal – not a bill

  220. samhenry says:

    Michael Steele outraged at Carter’ characterization that SOME Americans motivated by racial hatred.

  221. LisaInTX says:

    Morning everyone! Not sure how long I can stay–internet issues….gonna go insane if he doesn’t FIX this!!!!

    I think NO BILLS should be passed UNTIL we can get all the CORRUPTION/CONTRIBUTIONS crap sorted out!!!
    I DEMAND that ETHIC COMMITTEES LOOK into our government departments and take out the TRASH!!!

  222. LisaInTX says:

    Carter is a MORON!!! How dare he classify ALL the protesters as racial baised!!!!
    Wouldn’t MY DAD be proud of “his president” now!!! LMAO!!!! ahhahahaaa…..the peanut farmer needs to stick to things he KNOWS about

  223. LisaInTX says:

    I heard it different from Carter…..maybe I need to review that video again…..IF I can stay online to do that…:-/

  224. LisaInTX says:

    Or maybe he should go open a case of Billy beer and eat a PB & J for old times sake….??

  225. karmahd says:

    Samiam60 NEW FLASH>>> Obama to sing “My Way” on American Idol>>> LMAO!!

  226. karmahd says:

    Morning everyone, working on the Moonbat Patrol, stuck on Dowd or Carter, and possibly ACORN!!

  227. VotingFemale says:

    Carter is a Communist/Socialist MOONBAT of the First Degree, Lisa…

    May his peanuts shrivel.

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  229. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Everyone! Carter and Obama will share a place in History together as complete executive failures. This is Carters second term by way of Obama.

  230. tellitlikeitis says:

    When inflation hits the ceiling from all the reckless spending I wonder if they will bring back the Jimmy Carter misery index.

  231. karmahd says:

    Appears Carter will be the moonbat for the day LOL

  232. VotingFemale says:

    Agreed Karma. While Dowd is a total Moonbat… she is not a politician.

    Carter, however is a former President… that makes him a MOONBAT of the Highest Order!

  233. LisaInTX says:

    My poor dad would be furious I’m sure at this Carter BS……I think if the political PAST should come forward to haunt us….how about the BUSH”S having a few words of wisdom on the subject?? lmao…..hahaha

  234. LisaInTX says:

    And ANY and ALL persons that support ANY organization that has committed FRAUD using OUR TAX Dollars, needs to be held ACCOUNTABLE for their part in the game.

    Let the INQUIRIES begin !!!!! Starting with CARTER the peanut king-pin Commie…..:-|

  235. LisaInTX says:

    They just need to stop what they are doing and let the hearings begin!!!
    Beginning with any groups that have been EARMARKED for money out of tarp/stimulus…..then investigate the Banking takeover, then the GM/Chrysler takeover…..

  236. LisaInTX says:

    And I DON’T CARE what PARTY they belong too!!! Dem or Repub—-makes NO DIFFERENCE to me……I want the CORRUPTION, FRAUD and GREED to stop!

  237. tellitlikeitis says:

    Carter should just enjoy his retirement and keep his mouth shut. Nobody cares about what that miserable failure has to say anymore.

  238. m2 says:

    back from outing…

    rush said Carter is the worst president in U.S. history and Obama on route to dethrone him…

    Rush says Carter tried to “change” the country using the “inside”… Obama “changing” the country using his outside kooks and bringing them in.

    Carter is hilarious. Statements by him is what cemented a Bush 2nd term in America.

    One thing sane Americans hate is kook leftism. Which is why Obama got his job by hiding!

    You can’t hide much longer, Obama!!! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!

  239. m2 says:

    Rush says the WH hides when the kook left start calling 100’s of millions of Americans “racists” but Rush says the Post-Racial President could put a stop to this… with one public outing/statement.


    But he doesn’t! Because he’s a kook Marxist who loves to use charges of Racism to divide the nation. It’s exactly like him saying he’s not behind Holdren’s CIA witch hunt!

    Obama, that game is old… people know your play now… just fess up and be a man. Be a friggin’ leader!

  240. samiam60 says:

    I wouldn’t worry about what Carter says…he didn’t matter even when he did matter.

  241. samiam60 says:



  242. samiam60 says:

    Roslyn was pretty Hot though.

  243. tellitlikeitis says:

    What ever happened to Amy Carter?

  244. VotingFemale says:

    I will now go do a post on Maxine Waters latest Attack…

    Seems the MoonBat Politicians, including Jimmy Carter, are now in the all out attack mode again following the millions of protesters who made their voices heard on 912 in Washington DC

  245. m2 says:

    I just found this comment on Washington Post article: Young Adults Likely to Pay Big Share of Reform’s Cost

    Public Option = Government-subsidized

    Government-subsidized = Taxpayer-subsidized

    Taxpayer-subsidized = Taxpayer pays



    Public Option = Taxpayer Pays

    A “public option” is not competition. It’s subsidization, the opposite of competition.

    Don’t confuse the two.

    A “public option” is subsidized (paid for involuntarily) by, you guessed it, the public (those who pay taxes) ) who, by the way, are the wealthy. See here:

    “The top 1% (1.4 million taxpayers) of federal taxpayers now pay the highest percentage of taxes in modern history, more than the “bottom” 95% (134 million taxpayers) combined.


    And you leftists say federal taxation is not progressive enough. LOL!”

    When the public option, like Medicare is, performs horribly, like Medicare does, has hundreds of billions of dollars of cost overruns, like Medicare does, does a monumentally poor job of policing fraud, like Medicare has done, then SOMEONE has to pay the tremendously inflated bill.

    That “someone” is the taxpayer.

    Once the taxpayer has been forced to pay these bills (by increasing his taxes), then the public option magically shows “efficiency” because all of its bills have been paid. The public option then offers plans for a greatly reduced price, much “cheaper” than private plans, “cheaper” because the administration of the public option does not have to pay for inefficiency, cost overruns, horrible decisions, losses and debts. (All these costs are offloaded on to the taxpayer, so that the public option can even show a “profit”. Oh, look how efficiently it’s running!)

    Have you ever heard of “socializing the cost”, like you screamed about when Bush did so for Wall Street?

    Well that’s how a public option gets funded: through involuntary taxation of taxpayers.

    Private companies, losing millions of subscribers because of new laws and regulations (passed as part of the 1,000+ page bill that includes the “public option”) that make it much more expensive to issue policies, have to RAISE their rates to stay in business.

    COMPETITION would cause these companies to LOWER their rates. But a “public option” is not competition, it’s SUBSIDIZATION. Crucial difference.

    The more the private insurers raise their rates, the fewer individuals and business take out policies with them. The fewer policies that are taken out, the less the revenue that’s brought in, which means a poorer ability to negotiate good rates with doctors and hospitals, which means insurance companies have to raise their rates even more to stay in business. The negative feedback cycle repeats until private insurers go out of business.

    Then the “public option” is the ONLY “option”, and now you have FULLY socialized medicine.

    See another post of mine concerning just how great socialized medicine is.

    “It is estimated that privately insured patients pay $89 billion annually in additional insurance costs because of cost-shifting from government programs. If the new public option would have similar reimbursement policies, it would result in additional cost-shifting of as much as $36.4 billion annually. Such cost-shifting would force insurers to raise their premiums, making them even less competitive with the taxpayer-subsidized public plan. Lewin Associates estimates that as many as 118.5 million Americans, nearly two out of every three people with insurance, would shift to the government program. The result would be a death spiral for private insurance.”

    Medicare’s annual budget is $465 billion. (Miami Herald, August 11, 2008)

    Medicare and Medicaid made an estimated $23.7 billion in improper payments in 2007. These included $10.8 billion for Medicare and $12.9 billion for Medicaid.

    Medicare and Medicaid lose an estimated $60 billion or more annually to fraud, including $2.5 billion in South Florida. (Miami Herald, August 11, 2008)

    Every $1 spent on Medicare fraud prevention would stop $10 in fraud. (U.S.Department of Health and Human Services) (Miami Herald)

    Medicare spends less than 0.2 cents of every $1 of its $456 billion annual budget combating fraud, waste and abuse. (Miami Herald, August 11, 2008)

    Medicare paid dead physicians 478,500 claims totaling up to $92 million from 2000 to 2007. These claims included 16,548 to 18,240 deceased physicians. (U.S. Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, 2008)

    Nearly one of three claims (29 percent) Medicare paid for durable medical equipment was erroneous in FY 2006. (Inspector General report, Department of Health and Human Services, August 2008)

    Medicare and private health insurers pay up to $16 billion a year for needless imaging tests ordered by doctors. (American College of Radiology, 2004)

    Medicare paid more than $1 billion in questionable claims for 18 categories of medical supplies for patients they don’t need.

  246. tellitlikeitis says:

    Amy Carter attended the prestigious Holton-Arms School in Bethesda, Maryland. She later earned a bachelor of fine arts degree (BFA) from the Memphis College of Art and a master’s degree in art history from Tulane University in New Orleans.

    Carter illustrated[6] her father’s 1995 children’s book The Little Baby Snoogle-Fleejer[10].

    In September 1996, Carter married computer consultant James Gregory Wentzel, whom she had met while attending Tulane. Carter chose not to be given away, stating that she “belonged to no one.” Carter and Wentzel both kept their own family names. The couple moved to the Atlanta area, where they have focused on raising their son, Hugo James Wentzel (born July 29, 1999). Since the late 1990s, Carter has maintained a low profile, neither participating in public protests nor granting interviews. She is a member of the board of counselors of the Carter Center that advocates human rights and diplomacy as established by her father.[6]

  247. tellitlikeitis says:

    Ronald Reagan swept the floor with Jimmy Carter in that debate.

  248. m2 says:


    kselmanjulie wrote:
    This is very interesting to me as a 25 year old liberal young woman. I feel passionately about making health care accessible and affordable to everyone. I’ve spent three years working in public health clinics in DC, and have seen the good that preventitive care can do for typically underserved populations.

    However, as a case manager in these settings, I earn a salary of $30,000 annually, considerably less after taxes. Along with my work, I’m putting myself through grad school, to the tune of another $15,000 a year in loans.

    I hate saying this, because I really believe in Obama, and I believe in healthcare reform…but at this point, I really cannot afford to spend an extra $100 a month on ANYTHING, even health insurance. Its just not feasible.

  249. m2 says:

    got a job to do… bbl!

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  251. m2 says:

    just got an email!!

    Incoming AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka’s Ugly History of Violence and Corruption

    Today, Richard Trumka will become president of the nation’s largest union umbrella organization. Trumka has spent decades working his way up the ladder in the AFL-CIO, first as the top boss of the radical United Mine Workers (UMW) union and then as the AFL-CIO’s Secretary-Treasurer for the last decade.

    Unbelievably, despite an extreme record of violence and corruption, Trumka is running unopposed for the position, suggesting that Big Labor is about to begin a new era of forced-unionism extremism.

    A look at Trumka’s dark history reveals what Americans can expect from the new union boss in chief.

    Take the murder of Eddie York, a nonunion contractor, who was shot in the back of the head and killed while leaving a worksite in 1993. Trumka and other UMW officials were charged in a $27 million wrongful death suit by Eddie York’s widow. After fighting the suit intensely for four years, UMW lawyers settled suddenly in 1997 — just two days after the judge in the case ruled evidence in the criminal trial would be admitted.


  252. m2 says:

    omg … good read by Pychotherapist, ex-Liberal Robin at AT:

    Obama himself has said, in his autobiography, that “Frank” made him feel uncomfortable. Grandpa Stanley and Davis would sit around getting loaded, talking trash about women, and making up smutty limericks.

    Whether Davis sexually abused Obama or not, Davis made a lasting impression on his young psyche. Davis blamed racism and capitalism for all of the problems in society and instructed young Barry, “Don’t fully trust white people,” and “Black people have a reason to hate.”

    Obama’s identity was ever in flux until he linked up with Davis. Now he had beliefs he could wrap his mind around — rage at the system. Obama apparently became filled with resentment and anger even though he lived a privileged life in Hawaii.

    As an adult, Obama sought out other people who reinforced and hardened this world view: black nationalists, like Rev. Wright; 60’s terrorists, such as Bill Ayers; wife Michelle, who never felt pride in this country, regardless of a Princeton education, cushy attorney jobs, and a million dollar mansion. Chillingly, some of these people, like Rev. Wright, anointed Obama a messiah, which may have only magnified Obama’s false pride and delusions of grandeur.

    Obama could have gone down one of two roads. One was to face the truth about his life, regardless of the shame, hurt, and grief this would evoke. But Obama chose another path, the one that allowed him to save face; he made the personal political.

    His father didn’t choose to desert him; racism was at fault. His mother didn’t abandon him; the system was to blame. Obama’s grandparents didn’t corrupt him by giving a creepy guy like Davis personal access to him; they were acting like “typical white [people]”.

    Obama, I think, created another reality by blaming white America for his family’s faults. It’s a pattern he’s continued his whole life; his associates are also allergic to personal accountability.

    I picture Obama as a man crying out that he’s thirsty although he’s standing knee high in a fresh water stream. He’s been blessed by the fortunes of a king — prestigious private schools and universities, a lavish home in Chicago, two healthy little girls, state Senate and US Senate appointments, and now the Presidency.

    And yet deep down, I believe that Obama is still the wounded, angry little boy whose parents abandoned him and. Rather than resent and mourn them, he’s turned his rage on a more convenient target — the entire United States system — even though it’s that very same system of largely White Americans who elected him President.

    Is there anything more to Obama et al. than their righteous indignation? Their seething anger? Their leftist dogma?

    These are crucial questions because “People of the Lie” eat, sleep, and drink rage. They are dangerous people because they are soulless, and the soul is where love, forgiveness, and truth live. They’re like fallen angels; there is no there there.

    Are Obama and his closest advisors, “People of the Lie” — malignant narcissists? God, I hope not.

    Here are some words of wisdom from M. Scott Peck, and you can rein in on the diagnosis.

    The evil are ‘people of the lie’, deceiving others as they build layer upon layer of self-deception. . . . Forever fleeing the light of self-exposure and the voice of their own conscience, they are the most frightened of human beings. They live their lives in sheer terror. They need not be consigned to any hell, they are already living in it.

    Evil may be recognized by its very disguise…. We see the smile that hides the hatred, the smooth and oily manner that masks the fury, the velvet glove that covers the fist….

    The evil hate the light — the light of goodness that shows them up, the light of scrutiny that exposes them, the light of truth that penetrates their deception.


  253. arlenearmy says:

    I am trying to find that sound clip of Jimmy Carter calling Obama, that “BLACK BOY”. Rush Limbaugh dug up that sound clip.

    Yet, the news are not gonna play that sound clip.

    What pisses me off is that some moonbat calling conservatives slavers. Jimmy Carter is a poster child of slavers. That man is still in the peanut plantation mode. The reason why Carter is still living in the black neighborhood & going to the black church, is so that he can keep a watchful eye on the generation of slaves.

    Folks dont know that slaves master lived on the plantation w/the slaves. That way the slaves an be watched at every turn of their lives.

    See, this is why Carter needs to keep his slaver mouth shut. Now he has opened a can of worms. I think some under cover citizens should go over to Carter’s plantation to investigate and bust his ass wide open.

  254. m2 says:

    arlene, karma- look at this !!!!!!!!!



    How embarrassing!!!!! To create a book like that!! WOW, I’m speechless.

  255. arlenearmy says:

    remember what glenn beck was talking about the other week? i think it was about the arts community & they were recorded in trying to influence public opinion/politics by using art.

  256. samiam60 says:

    A rumor is moving across the internet that Soro’s has hird Van Jones. I am trying to find a source.

  257. m2 says:

    YES!! Glenn got a NEA propagandist Fired!

    People, WE ARE APPARENTLY HISTORY DEFICIENT. I cannot believe young American dolts produce books about Obama’s propaganda campaign and consider it ‘wonderful’…

    I guess they have to “feel good” since he’s failed them elsewhere, but it almost makes me want to barf just looking at the webpage and knowing these dolts don’t have a clue about HISTORY!

  258. arlenearmy says:

    NEWS ALERT OF GOP press conference on SACKING the CZARS. On foxnews now

  259. m2 says:

    Sam, Soros hired him via one of his Socialist “Progressive” think tanks… it is called “The Center for American Progress”

  260. arlenearmy says:

    I think Obama is about to explode and will try to do all sort of stupid shit. And then he will implode. He’s gonna mess around and get his ass impeached.

  261. samiam60 says:

    Thanks M2. Incredible things we are seeing these days.

    The libs over at cnn/facebook are so delusional it is hard to fathom the depth of ignorance.

  262. arlenearmy says:

    I want to add that Obama lied at the congress when he said that veterans can keep their same doctors at the VA Hospital. Do you ever remember veterans having a choice? I know that what Obama was saying was a bald face lie.

  263. m2 says:

    I agree Arlene, and Sam, but the media liberals will cover for him as much as they can…

    I do believe he is a Malignant Narcissist like that Psychotherapist diagnosed on American Thinker.

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  265. arlenearmy says:

    M2 & SamI
    You will notice on CNN Ireport front page the main talking point assignments, they are not listing the ACORN subject matter.

    The following are the assignments to ireporters:
    1 Sound Off
    2. Share a memory of Patrick Swayze
    3. Why so many public outbursts?
    4. Are you in a same-sex marriage?
    5. iReport photo club: Signs of autumn

  266. samiam60 says:

    Arlene does this sound familar?

    My dear friend is at our local VA hospital dying of Prostate Cancer caused by agent orange while in Viet Nam. A year ago he was diagnosed and request the surgery to remove the cancer. His request was denied and instead he was treated with radiation pellets. He now has the cancer in his colon and has been given three months to live “Providing” he under chemo therapy. Refusal to do so would suspend his medical benefits permanately. After two bouts with the chemo he is now admitted in the VA hospital do to complications arising from the chemo.
    His colon was removed friday morning at 7 AM and he was told he would have a Colostamy bag for two weeks and then a second surgery would be performed to reconnect the plumbing for lack of a better word. Today he called to tell me they are refusing the second surgery as he is terminal (3months to live) and that the “bag” will remain.
    He gave me his permission to share this story as he feels this is a “snapshot” of Obama’s health care reform program.

    He thanks all the Patriots who are now speaking out and hopes that we will save lives by our decent of the Obamination of our freedom.
    ( His Words) .

  267. m2 says:

    That’s terrible sam!!!

    and Arlene, CNN’s ireport assignment desk has always been liberal fluff akin to Today Show segment “assignments”…

    Rush says, if we are waiting for media to become legit it is a losing battle. They never will.

    I personally will never forgive the fostering of hate-speech that they ladened the population with pre-election.

    That was the lowest time in HISTORY for a “media”….

  268. samhenry says:

    Arlene here is something to consider

  269. arlenearmy says:

    That’s a sad situation. I know all too well what goes on in the VA Hospital. Its a bad thing when we are used in this political football.

    You know how the 2 young kids went under-cover w/hidden video camera at the ACORN offices … I wouldn’t be surprise if vets would start doing the same thing to the VA. We may not have any choice because it will come down to our word against there word.

    Meanwhile folks like Obama gets on microphone spewing falsehoods that vets get choice in doctors & care. We may have to show some videos and take it to glenn beck & slap it on youtube so the truth gets out.

    Veterans need to go hi-tech or we will continue to suck hind tit on this deal.

  270. arlenearmy says:

    You are an angel. I have been clicking on all sort of search engines to find that Jimmy Carter black boy statement. Damn! You are such a good research. KISSSSSSSSSSSS KISSSSSSSS hugs to SamHenry


    I will spread it around. Does Glen Beck have it. brb.. let me spread this around on twitter.

  271. samhenry says:

    Arlene I just left 2 videos for you – scroll up

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