Socialists Fall on Own Sword; ObamaCare V1.0 is Dead On Arrival

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Charles Krauthammer puts it as well or better than has anyone on the planet.

ObamaCare Version 1.0 is DEAD

What the Socialists fail to accept is this…

We Don’t Want your Freeking Communism and we are not going to let you force it on us.

Thus, the world is watching the censure you are receiving from the Majority of Americans and will watch as you Socialists lose your Majority in Congress in 2010.

In Addition… Barack Obama has outed himself as a full Blown Socialist to ALL Voters, including voters who gave him the benefit of the doubt and ignored the warnings from Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, and John McCain.

Better late than never but what a painful lesson this has been for those who trusted this bastard.

Keep the fight against Socialism White Hot and do no relent, fellow Citizens of all races.

And those Anti-Paliners?

Anti-Paliners are being ignored for the Trolls they are! hahahahaha

Anti-Paliners are being ignored for the Trolls they are! hahahahaha

The World is ignoring their pitiful squeaky sounds now that she has been proven correct about Obama! Their Youtube and Blog View Counts are in the toilet where they dwell.

No one cares
about their pitiful attempts
to smear
Sarah Palin anymore!

We Can’t Heeeere Youuuuu!!!


Now… let’s take a look at the devastating Article from Charles Krauthammer, shall we???

Obamacare: The Only Exit Strategy

Friday, August 28, 2009

Obamacare Version 1.0 is dead. The 1,000-page monstrosity that emerged in various editions from Congress was done in by widespread national revulsion not just at its expense and intrusiveness but also at the mendacity with which it is being sold. You don’t need a PhD to see that the promise to expand coverage and reduce costs is a crude deception, or that cutting $500 billion from Medicare without affecting care is a fiction.

But there is an exit strategy. And a politically clever one, if the Democrats are smart enough to seize it.

(1) Forget the public option. Whatever the merits, and they are few, it is political poison. It dies by the Liasson Logic, the unassailable observation by NPR’s Mara Liasson that there are no liberal Democrats who will lose their seats if the public option is left out, while there are many moderate Democrats who could lose their seats if the public option is included.

(2) Jettison any reference to end-of-life counseling. People see (correctly) such Medicare-paid advice as subtle encouragement to voluntarily refuse treatment. People don’t want government involvement in a process they consider the private province of patient, family and doctor. The Senate is already dropping it. The House must follow.

(3) Soft-pedal the idea of government committees determining “best practices.” President Obama’s Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research was sold as simply government helping doctors choose the best treatments. But there are dozens of medical journal review articles that do just that. The real purpose of such councils is ultimately to establish official criteria for denying reimbursement to less favored (because presumably less effective) treatments — precisely the triage done by the NICE committee in Britain, the Orwellian body that once blocked access to a certain expensive anti-blindness drug until you went blind in one eye. (NICE: the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence.)

(4) More generally, abandon the whole idea of Obamacare as cost-cutting. True, it was Obama’s original rationale for creating a whole new entitlement at a time of a sinking economy and a bankrupt Treasury. But, as many universal-health-care liberals complain, selling pain is poor salesmanship.

(5) Promise nothing but pleasure — for now. Make health insurance universal and permanently protected. Tear up the existing bills and write a clean one — Obamacare 2.0 — promulgating draconian health-insurance regulation that prohibits (a) denying coverage for preexisting conditions, (b) dropping coverage if the client gets sick and (c) capping insurance company reimbursement.

What’s not to like? If you have insurance, you’ll never lose it. Nor will your children ever be denied coverage for preexisting conditions.

The regulated insurance companies will get two things in return. Government will impose an individual mandate that will force the purchase of health insurance on the millions of healthy young people who today forgo it. And government will subsidize all the others who are too poor to buy health insurance. The result? Two enormous new revenue streams created by government for the insurance companies.

And here’s what makes it so politically seductive: The end result is the liberal dream of universal and guaranteed coverage — but without overt nationalization. It is all done through private insurance companies. Ostensibly private. They will, in reality, have been turned into government utilities. No longer able to control whom they can enroll, whom they can drop and how much they can limit their own liability, they will live off government largess — subsidized premiums from the poor; forced premiums from the young and healthy.

It’s the perfect finesse — government health care by proxy. And because it’s proxy, and because it will guarantee access to (supposedly) private health insurance — something that enjoys considerable Republican support — it will pass with wide bipartisan backing and give Obama a resounding political victory.

Isn’t there a catch? Of course there is. This scheme is the ultimate bait-and-switch. The pleasure comes now, the pain later. Government-subsidized universal and virtually unlimited coverage will vastly compound already out-of-control government spending on health care. The financial and budgetary consequences will be catastrophic.

However, they will not appear immediately. And when they do, the only solution will be rationing. That’s when the liberals will give the FCCCER regulatory power and give you end-of-life counseling.

But by then, resistance will be feeble. Why? Because at that point the only remaining option will be to give up the benefits we will have become accustomed to. Once granted, guaranteed universal health care is not relinquished. Look at Canada. Look at Britain. They got hooked; now they ration. So will we.


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270 Responses to Socialists Fall on Own Sword; ObamaCare V1.0 is Dead On Arrival

  1. Hey VF, I have always like Krauthammer, but am not liking his attitude towards Palin, have you noticed it?

  2. VF, Oh yea and this is a great post.

    Do you think ObamaCareDestruction has died?

    We hope so.

    He’s such a Narcissist, he won’t go down quietly on this or anything else.


  3. samhenry says:

    FOX, Tellit and WG – I will be away from the blog until late this afternoon. Will miss you. WG now don’t drive too fast – Obama isn’t after you lol. He’s after absolute power. I spoke with someone from Venezuela the other day and he said that he has seen this a milion times before: Obama is just a front for the group that is really in control.

    GREAT post VF.

  4. karmahd says:

    Morning, I read this last night on Real Clear Politics, and IMO any additional control the government obtains in our health care, two things will happen, it will cost more, and quality will drop!

  5. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lockerbie bomber ‘set free for oil’

    The British government decided it was “in the overwhelming interests of the United Kingdom” to make Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber, eligible for return to Libya, leaked ministerial letters reveal.

    Gordon Brown’s government made the decision after discussions between Libya and BP over a multi-million-pound oil exploration deal had hit difficulties. These were resolved soon afterwards.

    The letters were sent two years ago by Jack Straw, the justice secretary, to Kenny MacAskill, his counterpart in Scotland, who has been widely criticised for taking the formal decision to permit Megrahi’s release.

    The correspondence makes it plain that the key decision to include Megrahi in a deal with Libya to allow prisoners to return home was, in fact, taken in London for British national interests.

    Edward Davey, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: “This is the strongest evidence yet that the British government has been involved for a long time in talks over al-Megrahi in which commercial considerations have been central to their thinking.”

    Two letters dated five months apart show that Straw initially intended to exclude Megrahi from a prisoner transfer agreement with Colonel Muammar Gadaffi, under which British and Libyan prisoners could serve out their sentences in their home country.

    In a letter dated July 26, 2007, Straw said he favoured an option to leave out Megrahi by stipulating that any prisoners convicted before a specified date would not be considered for transfer.

    Downing Street had also said Megrahi would not be included under the agreement.

    Straw then switched his position as Libya used its deal with BP as a bargaining chip to insist the Lockerbie bomber was included.

    The exploration deal for oil and gas, potentially worth up to £15 billion, was announced in May 2007. Six months later the agreement was still waiting to be ratified.

    On December 19, 2007, Straw wrote to MacAskill announcing that the UK government was abandoning its attempt to exclude Megrahi from the prisoner transfer agreement, citing the national interest.

    In a letter leaked by a Whitehall source, he wrote: “I had previously accepted the importance of the al-Megrahi issue to Scotland and said I would try to get an exclusion for him on the face of the agreement. I have not been able to secure an explicit exclusion.

    “The wider negotiations with the Libyans are reaching a critical stage and, in view of the overwhelming interests for the United Kingdom, I have agreed that in this instance the [prisoner transfer agreement] should be in the standard form and not mention any individual.”

    Within six weeks of the government climbdown, Libya had ratified the BP deal. The prisoner transfer agreement was finalised in May this year, leading to Libya formally applying for Megrahi to be transferred to its custody.

    Saif Gadaffi, the colonel’s son, has insisted that negotiation over the release of Megrahi was linked with the BP oil deal: “The fight to get the [transfer] agreement lasted a long time and was very political, but I want to make clear that we didn’t mention Mr Megrahi.

    “At all times we talked about the [prisoner transfer agreement]. It was obvious we were talking about him. We all knew that was what we were talking about.

    “People should not get angry because we were talking about commerce or oil. We signed an oil deal at the same time. The commerce and oil deals were all with the [prisoner transfer agreement].”

    His account is confirmed by other sources. Sir Richard Dalton, a former British ambassador to Libya and a board member of the Libyan British Business Council, said: “Nobody doubted Libya wanted BP and BP was confident its commitment would go through. But the timing of the final authority to spend real money was dependent on politics.”

    Bob Monetti of New Jersey, whose son Rick was among the victims of the 1988 bombing, said: “It’s always been about business.”

    BP denied that political factors were involved in the deal’s ratification or that it had stalled during negotiations over the prisoner transfer talks.

    A Ministry of Justice spokesman denied there had been a U-turn, but said trade considerations had been a factor in negotiating the prisoner exchange deal. He said Straw had unsuccessfully tried to accommodate the wish of the Scottish government to exclude Megrahi from agreement.

    The spokesman claimed the deal was ultimately “academic” because Megrahi had been released on compassionate grounds: “The negotiations on the [transfer agreement] were part of wider negotiations aimed at the normalisation of relations with Libya, which included a range of areas, including trade.

    “The exclusion or inclusion of Megrahi would not serve any practical purpose because the Scottish executive always had a veto on whether to transfer him.”

    A spokesman for Lord Mandelson said he had not changed his position that the release of Megrahi was not linked to trade deals.

  6. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Karma.

  7. tellitlikeitis says:

    It’s funny that you don’t hear much about Afganistan now that GB is no longer president. I wonder why.

    August becomes deadliest month of Afghanistan war

    K ABUL | An American service member died Friday when his vehicle struck a bomb in eastern Afghanistan, making August the deadliest month for U.S. forces in the nearly eight-year war.

    The grim milestone comes as the top U.S. commander prepares to submit his assessment of the conflict — a report expected to trigger intense debate on the Obama administration’s strategy in an increasingly unpopular war.

    The latest death was reported as Afghan officials announced an 80 percent increase in the number of major fraud allegations submitted after last week’s disputed presidential election — a sign of the deep challenges facing the U.S. and its allies in shoring up a legitimate Afghan government capable of withstanding the Taliban insurgency, corruption and drug trafficking.

    The fraud claims include allegations that supporters of President Hamid Karzai illegally stuffed ballot boxes in the south and ripped up ballots cast for his opponents.

    Afghanistan’s Electoral Complaints Commission said Friday that it had received more than 2,000 complaints of fraud or abuse in last week’s election, with 270 of them serious enough to potentially change the outcome. Karzai’s biggest rival, Abdullah Abdullah, showed reporters video of a local election chief in one polling station stuffing ballot boxes himself.

    The vote count has progressed slowly in Afghanistan — as of Friday, preliminary results with 17 percent of the vote in gave Karzai 44 percent and Abdullah 35 percent. If no candidate wins 50 percent of the vote, a runoff must be conducted.

    For the Obama administration, it is, in many ways, the worst of all possible outcomes. Administration officials have made no secret of growing disenchantment with Karzai.

    But Karzai has managed to turn that disenchantment to an advantage, painting himself at home as the only political candidate willing to stand up to the dictates of the U.S.

    This headache combines with a recent spike in U.S. deaths.

    The Friday blast brought to 45 the number of U.S. service members killed this month in the Afghan war — one more than the previous monthly record, set in July.

    In contrast, the deadliest month for U.S. forces in Iraq was November 2004, when 137 service members were killed.

    American casualties have been rising steadily following President Barack Obama’s decision to send 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan to combat the resurgent Taliban and train Afghan security forces to assume a greater role in battling the insurgents.

    Obama’s decision was part of a strategic shift in the U.S. war against international Islamic extremism — moving resources from Iraq, which had been center stage since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion but where violence has declined sharply from levels of two years ago.

    A record 62,000 U.S. troops are now Afghanistan, with 4,000 more due before year’s end. That compares with about 130,000 in Iraq, most due to leave next year.

    Since the fresh troops began arriving in Afghanistan last spring, U.S. deaths have climbed steadily — from 12 in May to more than 40 for the past two months as American forces have taken the fight to the Taliban in areas of the country which have long been under insurgent control.

    At least 732 U.S. service members have died in the Afghan war since the U.S.-led invasion of late 2001. Nearly 60 percent of those deaths occurred since the Taliban began to rebound in 2007.

  8. tellitlikeitis says:

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

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    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 30% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11 (see trends).

    Twenty-nine percent (29%) are confident that Congress knows what it’s doing when it comes to the economy. If Americans could vote to keep or replace the entire Congress, 57% would throw out all the legislators and start over again. Just 25% would vote to keep the Congress.

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    Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. That’s the lowest level of total approval yet measured for Obama. Fifty-three percent (53%) now disapprove. Eighty-one percent (81%) of Democrats approve while 83% of Republicans disapprove. As for those not affiliated with either major party, 66% disapprove. See other recent demographic highlights from the tracking polls.

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  9. tellitlikeitis says:

  10. karmahd says:

    Hey Tellit, I am working on another post, YIPIEE!!

  11. samhenry says:

    It’s beyond comprehension that no one has danced on the bare blog since 11:20 AM. Could it be that the east coast is bathed in that rarest of commodities, sunshine? Could it be the settling in of things and things to do for fall? Could it be that people are enjoying that last vacation week of the summer? I hope so. But I also will have my drone hovering over the site in case on of you shows up. My “drone” is a carrier pigeon by the way. I understand our military has had to re institute their use due to budget constraints. I had a helluva time finding some since they have scooped up all on the open market. I would hate to have to import contraband pigeons but there are worse things.

  12. samhenry says:

    Merger mania in the entertainment industry (one of our last truly American products) “hots up” as the Brits say. The FINANCIAL TIMES reported today:

    Disney to buy Marvel for $4bn

    By Matthew Garrahan in Los Angeles and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson in New York

    Published: August 31 2009 14:40 | Last updated: August 31 2009 20:31

    Walt Disney made the first move in what is expected to be a wave of consolidation in Hollywood on Monday with a surprise $4bn (£2.4bn) bid for Marvel Entertainment in a deal that will unite Iron Man and Spider-Man with Mickey Mouse and Hannah Montana.

    The deal, which will earn more than $1.4bn for Ike Perlmutter, Marvel’s chief executive and largest shareholder, raised the prospect of other transactions at a time when the entertainment industry is in flux.

  13. samhenry says:

    I love it when urls talk with one another – geeze.

    All alone by the telephone.
    By myself on the blog
    People love to leave me alone
    So I live in a fog

  14. samhenry says:

    Got one of those hideous chain mail things from a friend today that had something in it especially for the FOX:

    “They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq Why don’t we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it’s worked for over 200 years and we’re not using it anymore.”

  15. samhenry says:

    I hope you all realize that in the US we have only a handful of industries that are truly “American”. Can you add to this list?

    Baseball Cards
    Farming [Dairy industry in upstate NY belly up]
    Retail – Groceries, Clothing, Diamonds, etc.

    Delete Retail from the above and we only have a few areas where we make anything anymore – especially durable goods and etc.

  16. samhenry says:

    POW – DISNEY BIDS for MARVEL – No Bailout Needed, Thanks
    August 31, 2009 · Leave a Comment

    By SamHenry

    The US entertainment industry continues to reinvent itself with Disney’s proposed buyout of Marvel that will benefit both partners. Marvel will no longer have to go outside to make deals for film production. It will also benefit from Disney’s global muscle in licensing and marketing brand name products, an area where Marvel shares similar albeit smaller synergies.

    Disney will add thousands of characters to its stable of characters of considerable value but will honor Marvel’s current contracts with other media outlets distributing its films. Marvel’s creative output will not only find safe harbor in digital and movie dreamland, but it will be shuttled off into theme parks and other Disney venues. WOW, all the world will be safe for more Marvel Mayhem.

    But this story is to be continued. According the FT, this is the beginning of renewed merger mania.

    “This deal may prove to be the first of multiple media transactions,” said Anthony DiClemente, a Barclays Capital analyst. “Credit markets have improved, so liquidity and financing is less of a worry for everybody; and big conglomerates are in need of new legs of growth.”

    So POW – ER to the people. Private enterprise triumphs independently again.

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  18. Foxwood says:

    That was appreciated SamH. And sadly true.

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  20. arlenearmy says:

    About falling on his sword.. Does this mean that Obama will be ruined by the internet. Well, he won mainly due to the net.

  21. Dave B says:

    arlenearmy: I think Obama WILL be ruined by the internet, the same tool he and his crew used to usher him into office. You must remember the days during the campaign when internet bloggers, commenters, and such were openly challenged and dismissed when we tried to warn everyone that based upon his past associations, friends, past voting records, and past comments he and his wife had made that he was a far left wing socialist. We were dismissed as “nuts” and right wing racist hate-mongers. A majority of the opposition hated Bush, hence hated McCain, ridiculed the idea that Obama would act EXACTLY AS HE HAS DONE! He’s been exposed. Notice how few “voices of reason” that voted for Obama are on the internet. It’s just the wing nuts that would vote for Carl Marx or Fidel Castro if they could. The silence is deafening.

  22. samhenry says:

    Dave B – read my article on the bill to authorize extraordinary powers to Obama re internet. Keep in mind that traditionally, the president has had power over communications way before Obama. Obama is the Commander-in-Chief and a cyber attack is no different than any other kind of attack. The only other scenario would be to place control of the internet in the hands of the military with consent of the Prez for a disconnect. That is not ideal either. I think the main difference now is the it is Obama – someone known to be power hungry. If it were Clinton – it wouldn’t be as dire. Also, since 911, the Prez has had increasingly greater power over wire tapping, etc. in the name of national security.

  23. samhenry says:

    Karm – yes, Obama did lie about health care. I wrote earlier that I ran into a native Venezuelan and his comment on Obama: “I’ve seen this kind of thing over and over. Obama is just the front man. There are others behind him pulling the strings.” I believe this to be true.

  24. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!!! I believe Obama is a front man for George Soros and his one worlder buddies.

  25. Foxwood says:

    Morning SamH,
    Might want to duck behind the cannon here…

  26. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  27. Foxwood says:

    Morning Tellit.

    I have more work on Soros… I need to get to it.

  28. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Foxwood, I believe Soros is the one behind the curtain pulling Obama’s strings.

  29. Foxwood says:

    You mean he’s a puppet?

  30. tellitlikeitis says:

    Dave B. , I tried to warn people about Obama. I could see right through his phony mistique. I can spot a used car salesman a mile away but I believe this last election was a referendum on GB and the republicans again. I have to say I do like saying “I told you so” however I am screwed just like the idiots tha niave voted for him.

  31. Foxwood says:

    I knew there wasn’t a chance when the other choice was McCain. I had some hope when McCain took Palin as a running mate…

  32. VotingFemale says:

    Did he fire that cannon yet? lol

    Morning Tellit! Foxwood! Samiam! SamHenry!

    it is a BRRRRR morning in the People’s Republic of Obuttholestan… at least here it is…

  33. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning VF!

  34. Hey everybody, drive by but want to post a comment here off my blog on page Proof! well, the proof here was him being a Narcissist, which of course he is, nevertheless I got this comment, so, what say ya’ll on this? WOOHOO!

    carmen said: on August 31st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    8a.m. sept 8 2009 hearing on obama birth certificate. will hillary and bubba rat him out?

  35. Hey, I sure hope they do.!!!

    I guess I should change the name or the content of the Proof Page.

    But I’m glad she commented and wonder if we could get some closure to the constant assaults to our liberties. good grief.

  36. tellitlikeitis says:

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Tuesday, September 01, 2009

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 30% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11 (see trends).

    Most voters now expect that the situation in Afghanistan will get worse over the next six months. That’s up fourteen points over the past month. At the same time, the number worried about a terrorist attack in the United States has declined.

    The climate change legislation passed by the House of Representatives earlier this summer receives mixed reviews from the public.

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter and Facebook.

    Overall, 45% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. That’s down a point from yesterday and the lowest level of total approval yet measured for Obama. Fifty-three percent (53%) now disapprove. See recent demographic highlights from the tracking polls.

    In addition to our daily tracking, Rasmussen Reports has released a month-by-month review of the President’s Approval ratings. This allows a longer-term look at trends. In August, President Obama’s full-month ratings fell below 50% for the first time.

    It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama’s numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That’s because some of the President’s most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote. Other factors are also important to consider when comparing Job Approval ratings from different polling firms.

    Twenty-nine percent (29%) are confident that Congress knows what it’s doing when it comes to the economy. If Americans could vote to keep or replace the entire Congress, 57% would throw out all the legislators and start over again. Just 25% would vote to keep the Congress.

    Check out our review of last week’s key polls to see “What They Told Us.” Also, check out our home page to keep up to date with the latest current events polling. If it’s in the news, it’s in our polls.

    Scott Rasmussen has recently had three analysis columns published in the Wall Street Journal. The most recent was on health care. Earlier columns were on the President’s approval ratings and how Obama won the White House by campaigning like Ronald Reagan. If you’d like Scott Rasmussen to speak at your meeting, retreat, or conference, contact Premiere Speakers Bureau. You can also learn about Scott’s favorite place on earth or his time working with hockey legend Gordie Howe.

    A Fordham University professor rated the national pollsters on their record in Election 2008. We also have provided a summary of our results for your review. In 2008, Obama won 53%-46% and our final poll showed Obama winning 52% to 46%. While we were pleased with the final result, Rasmussen Reports was especially pleased that our data was the least volatile of all the tracking polls. Our daily tracking showed Obama with a stable and solid lead with more than 50% of the vote every single day for the last six weeks of the campaign.

    In 2004 George W. Bush received 50.7% of the vote while John Kerry earned 48.3%. Rasmussen Reports was the only firm to project both candidates’ totals within half a percentage point by projecting that Bush would win 50.2% to 48.5%. (see our 2004 results).

    Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 500 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The margin of sampling error—for the full sample of 1,500 Likely Voters–is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Results are also compiled on a full-week basis and crosstabs for full-week results are available for Premium Members.

    Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large (see methodology). Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. While partisan affiliation is generally quite stable over time, there are a fair number of people who waver between allegiance to a particular party or independent status. Over the past four years, the number of Democrats in the country has increased while the number of Republicans has decreased.

    Our baseline targets are established based upon separate survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews) and targets are updated monthly. Currently, the baseline targets for the adult population are 38.4% Democrats, 32.7% Republicans, and 28.9% unaffiliated. Likely voter samples typically show a slightly smaller advantage for the Democrats.

    A review of last week’s key polls is posted each Saturday morning. Other stats on Obama are updated daily on the Rasmussen Reports Obama By the Numbers page. We also invite you to review other recent demographic highlights from the tracking polls.

  37. tellitlikeitis says:

    I dedicate theis song to President Obama.

  38. Foxwood says:

    Morning VF, WG…

    Can’t wait for the global cooling to get down here…

  39. VotingFemale says:

    52 degrees this morning… OMG

  40. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning VF, Dave B., Tellit, Foxwood, SamH, and WG. Top of the morning to you all.
    It is a bit nippy out there this morning

  41. samiam60 says:

    It is close to a global warming record 56 degrees here already at 9:49

  42. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning again everyone! lol

  43. tellitlikeitis says:

  44. VotingFemale says:

    Obama is a loser in slow motion… the Socialists are ASSHATS and America is learning this daily.

    The days of this vid are history… yet it is this very mindset that spawned the current crop of Radical Socialist Revolutionaries… and they are blowing it big time. They need an ‘enemy’ to justify their existence…

    Problem is… there is no ‘enemy’ for them… just the majority of Americans who are Independent Thinkers who do most of the living, working, and dying for the sake of Democracy and Freedom.

    These “Children” are doomed to dwell on the Tree of Woe as we take away their toys and send them to their room.

  45. Foxwood says:

    Morning Sami. I see you had your ear plugs in this morning… The cannon fire didn’t seem to affect you.

  46. samiam60 says:


  47. Foxwood says:

    I had to teach those lefty loser again about That Damned Constitution again. Maybe one of these days’s they’ll get it.

  48. Foxwood says:

    I SAID… oh… nevermind…

  49. tellitlikeitis says:

  50. m2 says:

    Morning Capitalist America-loving friends!
    it’s 60 degrees here today!

    VF says: 52 degrees this morning… OMG

  51. tellitlikeitis says:

    Morning m2.

  52. samiam60 says:

    Morning M2 🙂

  53. m2 says:

    It’s so nice out.
    I have been updating things around the house. We’re clearing out the second floor and donating all our stuff to charity.

    we hope to install a new floor and get it fixed up before the holidays…

  54. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning M2!

    Sounds like you are into a major project there!

  55. tellitlikeitis says:

  56. samhenry says:

    Tea Party Movement March on Washingto 9/12
    September 1, 2009 · Leave a Comment

    by SamHenry

    In case the President and his staff; Nancy Pelosi and hers have not got the message, lines of communication will be repaired on 9/12 when Tea Party devotees will march on Washington. Even Glen Beck wants to be there and has asked FOX to send him! The event is being promoted by several organizations such as Freedom Works Foundation, National Taxpayers Union, and Tea Party Patriots gathered under the banner: Here is part of their appeal for participants:
    Why we must March on Washington

    We will march on Washington on September 12th because we must. Because we have to turn the temperature up on the politicians to remind them once again that we will not go quietly into the night. We will work harder and out-organize the taxpayer-funded left wing groups like ACORN. We, the producers of this country will not be taken over by the looters and their representatives in Congress.

    A march on Washington is necessary because it is the natural next step for a growing movement that started with a spark in Cape Coral, Florida and Elkhart, Indiana. A movement where a handful of people inspired others thousands of miles away to take to the streets because if the folks in Cape Coral could do it, so could the folks in Elkhart. We march on Washington because it will take a massive gathering of liberty-loving Americans to make such an impact on Congress and the president that we stop the current slide to socialism. When the national and international press see that the American people have gathered by the thousands in one place, at one time, to stand in solidarity with the constitution and the declaration of independence, no longer will we be written off.

    We have the opportunity to come together at this march and make our mark in a way that previous Americans before us have done. We can keep the flame of liberty lit for future generations, but we all have to put in the work to do so. We are only two weeks away from September 12th, a day in which we can finally speak in one, loud voice for freedom. I believe that if we can pull this off, we can stop the government takeover of health care and the energy sector, and stop this rapid socialist experiment before it eliminates any more of our liberty.

    My personal appeal to you is to spend the next two weeks helping to spread the word about this event. Charter a bus, recruit more people, call talk radio and do everything else in your power to alert your fellow Americans to this cause. If we work together we can make history and throw a counter punch to big government that will put it on the ropes. From there, we can begin regaining our liberty and restoring our republic to its original founding. This is why we must march on Washington on September 12th.

  57. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit, Rassmussen must piss off Obama more than does Rush Limbo! hahahahahaha

    Obama will go down as the worst President in American History and he is well on his way! 😉


  58. VotingFemale says:

    Communize America for Teddy…


  59. samhenry says:

    eBay ‘reaches deal to sell Skype’ to Private Equity Group; New Bill Would Regulate Private Groups
    September 1, 2009 ·

    eBay has reached an agreement with a private equity firm to sell SKYPE. A sale has been sought for some time.

    Skype’s software lets computer and mobile phone users talk to each other for free and make cut-price calls to mobiles and landlines.

    Unlike traditional mobile calls, which are transmitted over a cellular network, Skype turns your voice into data and sends it over the internet.

    Since being acquired, the number of registered Skype users has risen to 405 million from 53 million, though free user-to-user calls still dominate the service.

    Increasingly, companies have been “disappearing” into private investment firms that are not publicly traded.

    Obama Administration Proposes Legislation Requiring Registration of Investment Advisers to Private Funds and Imposing New Recordkeeping and Reporting Requirements Relating to Private Funds –

  60. m2 says:

    Morning VF and SH, sam, tellit and fox!

    VF, I heard Dick Morris say yesterday… there’s two types of behavior… a pragmatist like Bill Clinton or an ideologue.

    Obama is an ideologue.

    A demagogue more like…
    and he is prepared to go down in flames in order to shove through his sham healthcare bill and cap and trade.

    Both bills of which have nothing to do with anything other than enslaving us in debt taxes and misery.

  61. m2 says:

    Did you guys hear about that war a-brewing between Harry Reid and the Las Vegas paper?

    Review Journal I think it’s called?

  62. samhenry says:

    Hello/goodbye all until later. Have been pinned down on FRIENDS blog by friendly fire. Will be back later.

  63. m2 says:

    later SH!

  64. m2 says:

    nough is enough, Harry

    Stop the childish bullying

    This newspaper traces its roots to before Las Vegas was Las Vegas.

    We’ve seen cattle ranches give way to railroads. We chronicled the construction of Hoover Dam. We reported on the first day of legalized gambling. The first hospital. The first school. The first church. We survived the mob, Howard Hughes, the Great Depression, several recessions, two world wars, dozens of news competitors and any number of two-bit politicians who couldn’t stand scrutiny, much less criticism.

    We’re still here doing what we do for the people of Las Vegas and Nevada. So, let me assure you, if we weathered all of that, we can damn sure outlast the bully threats of Sen. Harry Reid.

    On Wednesday, before he addressed a Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce luncheon, Reid joined the chamber’s board members for a meet-‘n’-greet and a photo. One of the last in line was the Review-Journal’s director of advertising, Bob Brown, a hard-working Nevadan who toils every day on behalf of advertisers. He has nothing to do with news coverage or the opinion pages of the Review-Journal.

    Yet, as Bob shook hands with our senior U.S. senator in what should have been nothing but a gracious business setting, Reid said: “I hope you go out of business.”

    Later, in his public speech, Reid said he wanted to let everyone know that he wants the Review-Journal to continue selling advertising because the Las Vegas Sun is delivered inside the Review-Journal.

    Such behavior cannot go unchallenged.

    You could call Reid’s remark ugly and be right. It certainly was boorish. Asinine? That goes without saying.

    But to fully capture the magnitude of Reid’s remark (and to stop him from doing the same thing to others) it must be called what it was — a full-on threat perpetrated by a bully who has forgotten that he was elected to office to protect Nevadans, not sound like he’s shaking them down.

    No citizen should expect this kind of behavior from a U.S. senator. It is certainly not becoming of a man who is the majority leader in the U.S. Senate. And it absolutely is not what anyone would expect from a man who now asks Nevadans to send him back to the Senate for a fifth term.

    If he thinks he can push the state’s largest newspaper around by exacting some kind of economic punishment in retaliation for not seeing eye to eye with him on matters of politics, I can only imagine how he pressures businesses and individuals who don’t have the wherewithal of the Review-Journal.

    For the sake of all who live and work in Nevada, we can’t let this bully behavior pass without calling out Sen. Reid. If he’ll try it with the Review-Journal, you can bet that he’s tried it with others. So today, we serve notice on Sen. Reid that this creepy tactic will not be tolerated.

    We won’t allow you to bully us. And if you try it with anyone else, count on going through us first.

    That’s a promise, not a threat.

    And it’s a promise to our readers, not to you, Sen. Reid.

  65. m2 says:

    Also Reid is guilty of holding a town hall in secret and stacking it with Obama supporters… his own people told real constituents who called that there “was no townhall”….

    I heard it from the mouth of a Las Vegas-ite.

  66. m2 says:

    Wow, good insightful comment SamHenry…

    SH said: Karm – yes, Obama did lie about health care. I wrote earlier that I ran into a native Venezuelan and his comment on Obama: “I’ve seen this kind of thing over and over. Obama is just the front man. There are others behind him pulling the strings.” I believe this to be true.

  67. tellitlikeitis says:

  68. m2 says:

    well I guess I cleared the place out huh…
    Am I the nerd at the lunch table?


    I’ve got to do some things… will check back later!

    Keep on keeping on!

  69. m2 says:

    oh just saw this… this is how Obama-types “Change” the world:

    UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt

    JONATHON PORRITT, one of Gordon Brown’s leading green advisers, is to warn that Britain must drastically reduce its population if it is to build a sustainable society.

    …This is part of the thinking behind the OPT’s call for Britain to cut population to 30m — roughly what it was in late Victorian times.

    Britain’s population is expected to grow from 61m now to 71m by 2031. Some politicians support a reduction.

    Phil Woolas, the immigration minister, said: “You can’t have sustainability with an increase in population.”

    The Tory leader, David Cameron, has also suggested Britain needs a “coherent strategy” on population growth.

    Despite these comments, however, government and Conservative spokesmen this weekend both distanced themselves from any population policy. ”

    Good thing we have our own Left-zealot Eugenics nut, John Holdren… who obviously represents Obama’s views.

  70. m2 says:

    Hm they only need to exterminate 30 million people. What will they do?

    inject people with swine flu?

    Who knows. These people are so sick in the head… you can’t put anything past them.

  71. Foxwood says:

    Glenn Beck says if you find something on Van Jones, or any other czar or Obutthole, put it on disk, because in his research if finds something and the next day it’s gone. He thinks the administration is killing videos and stories.

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  73. Foxwood says:

    You lefty losers still don’t get it. Well, I got more sh!t for you to chew on. When you read the Constitution, you can’t read it with modern language. Because the words have new meanings, you think that it changes the Constitution? That’s your public school education (indoctrination) system, with the help of the lefty teachers unions, that bring you to that dumb@ss conclusion. That means you’ve never really learned American history. The founding fathers would be laughing their asses off at your ignorance.

    You have to look at the language in use at the time to understand the meaning of the Constitution. We’ll look at three of the most misunderstood terms in the Constitution.

    1. The first one is “well regulated Militia”.
    The Second Amendment.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Now if you were a stupid dumb@ss, you would think it means a government regulated Militia. No way, no how. When your clock was slow, you took it to a clock smith to re-regulate it. That is, to make it in proper working form. In England today they still ‘regulate’ their watches.

    Other definitions include “functioning”, “to make regular”, “to keep in good working order”, and “maintained”.

    A militia that practiced on a regular basis would be “well regulated”. Daniel Boone had his own militia. The government never hunted him down to confiscated his guns and cannon.

    So what is understood is:
    A well maintained Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    2. The second misunderstood term is “regulate Commerce”.

    Interstate commerce clause
    Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3.

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    Regulate was explained above. Commerce was defined as trade.

    The intent was to regulate, or maintain, trade between governing bodies, not private business. This restricts the power of the federal government “To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes.” States, not people, not businesses… STATES.

    The Commerce clause was intended to promote trade between the states. The states can not erect trade barriers between one another. Regulate, this time, meant to maintain, not restrict, which is the way the Federal government reads it today. Today government thinks “commerce” includes all gainful economic activities. Hence Congress thinks it has a license to regulate the entire economy.

    So what is understood is:
    To maintain trade with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    3. The misunderstood term was “general welfare”.
    Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1.

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    Government points to “general welfare” to account for your unlimited power they think they posses. “General welfare” did not mean the welfare of the people. It meant:
    Exemption from misfortune, sickness, calamity or evil; the enjoyment of health and the common blessings of life; prosperity; happiness; applied to persons, exemption from any unusual evil or calamity; the enjoyment of peace and prosperity, or the ordinary blessings of society and civil government as it applies to states.

    Welfare did not have the same meaning as it does today. In the Constitution the word “welfare” is used in the context of states and not the citizens.

    Do you really believe the United States could afford to provide for welfare of the people (welfare as defined today, and not as defined when the Constitution was written)? The public school indoctrination took for you. You truly are a imbecile.

    What is understood is”
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Prosperity of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    The Constitution is designed to “LIMIT” government, not man. It was FDR that brought about the atrocities we have today and twisted the Constitution into the blank check that was used to carry out the New Deal.

    I find two types of liberal morons. 1) You have been indoctrinated and have a belief system that is so ingrained, I can show the truth, but your to stupid to believe it, and b) Your a Socialist/Communist piece of shit and your intentionally bastardizing the Constitution. Your a Commie bastitch or you were taught/indoctrinated by a Commie bastitch.

    If you really knew American history, you would know that the founding fathers were for small, limited government. Listen to our founding fathers. They wrote the Constitution.

    “Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.” –James Madison

    “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” –Patrick Henry

    “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin

    “If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated power

    s, but an indefinite one….” — James Madison

    “Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison

    “I see,… and with the deepest affliction, the rapid strides with which the federal branch of our government is advancing towards the usurpation of all the rights reserved to the States, and the consolidation in itself of all powers, foreign and domestic; and that, too, by constructions which, if legitimate, leave no limits to their power… It is but too evident that the three ruling branches of the Federal government are in combination to strip their colleagues, the State authorities, of the powers reserved by them, and to exercise themselves all functions foreign and domestic.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “The Constitution shall never be construed… to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” — Samuel Adams

    “The greatest calamity which could befall us would be submission to a government of unlimited powers.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” — George Mason

    “The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” — James Madison

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” — Ben Franklin

    “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.” — James Madison

    “Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction.” — James Madison

    “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” — Benjamin Franklin

    “The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.” — James Madison

    “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” — Thomas Jefferson

  74. tellitlikeitis says:

  75. sorry drive by, but make your decicision after watching

    hey Vf, thanks for the rescue from that commie pig on my post.

  76. tellitlikeitis says:

    Here’s a demonstration of Obama health care.

  77. tellitlikeitis says:

  78. tellitlikeitis says:

    Her’s another one of my dedications to Obama’s sagging pole numbers and popularity.

  79. Foxwood says:

    “Here’s a demonstration of Obama health care.”

    That looks like it could be used for a lethal injection!

  80. tellitlikeitis says:

    Health-Care Anger Has Deeper Roots

    WASHINGTON — Recent town-hall uproars weren’t just about health care. They were also eruptions of concern that the government is taking on too much at once.

    That suggests trouble for the president and his party, and fears of losses in next year’s midterm election are likely to shape the Democrats’ fall agenda.

    The uproar at town-hall meetings in August has been as much about the role of government as it has been about the health overhaul, WSJ’s Janet Adamy reports.
    At August’s town-hall meetings, voters often started with complaints about health care, only to shift to frustrations about all the other things President Barack Obama and the Democrats have done or tried to do since January. The $787 billion economic-stimulus package, the government-led rescue of General Motors Corp. and climate-change legislation all came in for criticism.

    “A lot of the anxiety we face here has less to do with health care and everything to do with the overall state of the economy and government,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner, a New York Democrat.

    “I have seen a level of dissatisfaction and even anger that I haven’t experienced in the years that I’ve been a member of Congress,” Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, told an audience at a health-care meeting in Kansas City on Monday.

    Although the election is still far off, political forecasters predict that Democrats could run into trouble in the 2010 midterm vote.

    “What we’re seeing now, both in terms of numbers and the feel out there, this is how big waves feel early on,” said Charlie Cook, editor of the Cook Political Report.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs dismissed any talk of political doom hanging over the president and his party.

    “It would be like me predicting who’s going to win the World Series, not in a few months but in a year and a few months,” he said Monday, adding that he will leave “extremely smart prognosticators” to “their stately craft.”

    August, typically a sleepy month, dealt Democrats a tough hand this year.

    Snafus in the federal “cash for clunkers” program — which gave people rebates to trade in gas-guzzling cars for more fuel-efficient new vehicles — highlighted how disorganization can hamper government plans. It was the bloodiest month for U.S. troops so far in the war in Afghanistan. Attorney General Eric Holder poked a potential hornets’ nest by appointing a prosecutor to investigate Central Intelligence Agency interrogators. And White House budget forecasters said they now project $9 trillion of additional federal debt over the next decade, adding $2 trillion to an earlier estimate.

    Last year’s election gave Democrats a mandate for big changes that they feel still applies. They won seats by arguing that Republicans had failed to act to keep the housing market and financial system from crumbling.

    Mr. Obama also inherited a large budget deficit and expanded it further with economic-stimulus spending.

    Many town-hall attendees cite the deficit as a reason for holding off on health care, even though Mr. Obama and other Democrats say they won’t pass a plan that adds to the national debt.

    Current proposals would cost about $1 trillion over 10 years, mostly to expand coverage to the nation’s uninsured. All proposals aim to be deficit-neutral, offsetting new spending with cuts and some new taxes.

    Anger over financial bailouts, including the Troubled Asset Relief Program begun under the administration of former President George W. Bush, has been especially strong. At a meeting in Wheeling, W.Va., Democratic Rep. Alan B. Mollohan said a health-care bill was needed to help “folks in terrible situations.” A member of the audience yelled out: “Use TARP funds!”

    In South Sioux City, Neb., last week, Van Phillips took the microphone to ask Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson how America can pay for a health overhaul with all the other programs going on.

    At town-hall meetings in August, such as this one in Reston, Va., voters often started with complaints about health care, only to shift to broader frustrations about actions by Democrats.
    “We’ve got a pretty good chunk out there already in the stimulus. We just came back with the cash for clunkers,” said Mr. Phillips, a retired superintendent of schools. “I guess I’m concerned — how do we make all of this flow?”

    Democrats concede they are fighting the perception that government is overstretched, though they say the economic stresses actually make a health-care overhaul more important because Democratic plans would help people who lose employer-provided health insurance.

    Mr. Weiner said the crowded legislative calendar and a bruising battle in June over a climate bill narrowly approved by the House is wearing down Democrats, particularly those in the fiscally conservative Blue Dog coalition.

    “We had a lot of House members who cast a tough vote on energy, and thought they could catch their breath, only to have health care bear down on them,” he said.

    Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D., Md.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said, “I’ve warned our colleagues from day one back in January, this is going to be a very challenging cycle. You just have to look historically….We’re pleased people are being shaken out of their complacency.”

    Other analysts think any forecast this early is overblown.

    “A year is an eternity, maybe two eternities, in politics,” said Nathan L. Gonzales, political editor of the Rothenberg Political Report.

    But Mr. Gonzales agreed that skepticism about too much action in Washington can drive voters. Anger about the government led to broad Democratic gains in 2006 and 2008, and now that Democrats are running the government, activism has only increased, he said.

    “What we’re seeing here is this larger debate about what the role of government is,” said William McInturff, a Republican pollster who conducts The Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll. “The health-care debate is at that fault line.

    —Louise Radnofsky and Neil King Jr. contributed to this article.

  81. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, That is Obama’s wellness program. He is going to flush all the toxins out of your colon with a great big government enema. You have the choice between the blue bag and red bag much like the choice between the blue pill or red pill. This will cure all you illnesses and there will be no need for rationing. Obama will also provide free proctology exams. lol This is the new low budget approach to government health care.

  82. tellitlikeitis says:

    Christie Maintains Polling Lead in N.J. Governor’s Race

    TRENTON, N.J. — Two new polls find Republican challenger Chris Christie maintaining a lead in the New Jersey governor’s race.

    A Quinnipiac University poll has Mr. Christie leading Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine by 10 percentage points, 47% to 37%. That is roughly the same margin as Quinnipiac polls in July and early August.

    A Fairleigh Dickinson-PublicMind poll has Mr. Christie ahead by 47% to 42% — also roughly the same margin as the previous FDU poll released July 1.

    The new polls, released Tuesday, follow a barrage of news stories and opposition ads raising questions about Mr. Christie’s ethics.

    The Quinnipiac poll of 1,612 likely voters, taken Aug. 25-30, has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 2.4 percentage points.

    The FDU poll of 715 likely voters, taken Aug. 24-30, has a sampling error margin of plus or minus four percentage points.

  83. tellitlikeitis says:

  84. tellitlikeitis says:

  85. tellitlikeitis says:

    Brainwashed fools.

  86. tellitlikeitis says:

  87. tellitlikeitis says:

  88. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good afternoon Sam. Where is everybody?

  89. Foxwood says:

    I got lost at work…

  90. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Sumpthin Sumpthin

  91. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Sumpthin Sumpthin

  92. hahahahah


  93. HCAN= Health Care Agitators Negligence

  94. is that negliee? hahaah it lookes like it! hahahah

  95. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Abandoned Nextweek

  96. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care As Negotiated

  97. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Annihilation Nazis

  98. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Apocalyptic Naysayers

  99. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Healthcare Crusties And Nasties

  100. ahhhhhhh

    Health Care Adversary Nepotism

  101. HCAN=Habit Crust Announcement Newsworthy

  102. HCAN = Habitual Crustmiester Abama Nutjob

  103. See VF can’t leave us alone for too long…or we get into trouble!

  104. Blogwood said:
    Hcan = Health Care Abandoned Nextweek


  105. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Healthcare Can Actually Nosedive

  106. Foxwood says:

    Health Care Already Negated

  107. HCAN=Health Care About Nothing

  108. HCAN=Health Care Average Never

    HCAN=Health Care About Narcissism

  109. HCAN=Health Care Abama Narcissist

  110. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Administration Nincompoops

  111. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care And Necrotism

  112. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Already Nixed

  113. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Health Care Ain’t Nationwide

  114. HCAN=Health Crap About Neither

  115. Foxwood says:

    Hcan = Halt Caring About Nationalization

  116. HCAN=Health Crabgrass Already Negated

  117. Hey Blogwood, whats up with you these days?

    Are you loving Glenn Beck’s shows? I am.

  118. Foxwood says:

    He’s got a good radio show also. It’s probably as good as his TV show.

    Been working on my house, alot. Working mainly on the office right now.

  119. Yes, I listen to the radio and it is great and usually when I watch the show, it sounds a lot like his radio address, but today it was going to be even better than the radio, I DVR’d it.

    Wow! wish I had an office! Yes, remodling/repairing fixing up is so great and fun but expensive. We are doing much the same.

  120. Foxwood says:

    My biggest problem is it’s a hundred year old house. There is nothing up to date in it. Wiring is a mess. If I don’t rewire it, it might flame up someday.

  121. samiam60 says:


    WASHINGTON (CNN) — A top Republican senator warned Tuesday that if Democrats try to overhaul health care without Republican support, “it will wreck our health care system and wreck the Democratic Party.”

    “The intensity on this issue across the country is like nothing I”ve seen in a long, long time,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate.

    After a month of town halls back home, Alexander said it’s clear to him and other Republicans that Americans are “scared to death” about the sweeping policy changes coming from Washington this year and the massive debt they are creating.

    Alexander warned there would be “a minor revolution in this country” if Democrats try to “ram” a health care overhaul using a legislative tool called reconciliation, which would allow a bill to pass with 50 votes instead of 60.

    Alexander also complained the White House has cut Republicans out of talks.
    Read the rest of this entry »

    Filed under: Congress • Health care • Lamar Alexander • Popular Posts

  122. samiam60 says:


    WASHINGTON (CNN) — A top Republican senator warned Tuesday that if Democrats try to overhaul health care without Republican support, “it will wreck our health care system and wreck the Democratic Party.”

    “The intensity on this issue across the country is like nothing I”ve seen in a long, long time,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate.

    After a month of town halls back home, Alexander said it’s clear to him and other Republicans that Americans are “scared to death” about the sweeping policy changes coming from Washington this year and the massive debt they are creating.

    Alexander warned there would be “a minor revolution in this country” if Democrats try to “ram” a health care overhaul using a legislative tool called reconciliation, which would allow a bill to pass with 50 votes instead of 60.

    Alexander also complained the White House has cut Republicans out of talks.

  123. Foxwood says:

    I guarantee I will revolt!

  124. Amen Blogwood! I will too! I’ve heard people say they will meet and greet at the door with the 2nd Amendment and do all the discussing that liberals want to discuss.

  125. samiam60 says:

    Hi Foxwood. I really don’t think Obama and thugs actually believe the Conservatives, Moderates, Democrats and Republicans would actually revolt against this Government.

    I don’t believe Obama and Thugs actually understand the magnitude of this Movement in America. Once the Genie is out of the Bottle all of the Kings Men will not be able to put it back in. I think we are seeing the total destruction of the Democratic Party and the end of the Obama Administration. To me that’s better than waiting till 2012.

  126. m2 says:

    I can’t wait to see them (media, gov’t, angry uppity journalists, Gibbs) suppress the September 12th march.

  127. samiam60 says:

    Hi M2, WG, and where is Tellitlikeitis. We need his input. and SamH and Karma, WUZ UP?

  128. samiam60 says:

    And Lisa and Arlene lets go ladies.

  129. samiam60 says:

    And where has Rosehips been?

  130. m2 says:

    check this out:
    BURLINGAME, Calif. — While Gmail was down Tuesday, frustrated users flooded Twitter with complaints. Unsurprisingly, the word “Gmail” quickly became a trending topic on the service. What is surprising is that it’s currently no longer a trending topic but “iGoogle” is.

    “Gmail” was the original trending topic on Twitter Tuesday, while “iGoogle” popped up as a trending topic afterward, with tweets saying that the e-mail service could still be accessed via iGoogle. But “Gmail” has inexplicably disappeared as a topic.

    Strange, considering at one point Tuesday, around 1:50 p.m. PDT, the word was used in over 700 tweets per minute, while “iGoogle” was used in approximately 40 tweets per minute.

    Is this is an example of Twitter tinkering with its trending topics results?

    Reporting on Twitter security breach issues in July, TechCrunch showed some screenshots of Twitter’s administrative pages, including a section for trending topics that appears to allow a user to “blacklist” a topic. Whatever the cause, incidents like this could hurt the microblog’s credibility if it expects to be useful as a source of breaking news.

    But as mysteriously as it went off Twitter’s trending topics, “Gmail” appears to be back at the top of the list just as the e-mail service is working again.

  131. samiam60 says:

    Gmail M2 is not Google but Government Mail. lol
    They most likely shut down to test Obaminators Kill Switch.

  132. m2 says:

    people are probably out enjoying the awesome weather!

  133. Foxwood says:

    The last couple of days, everyone has kind of laid low.

    Has any one done a search of 912? Check this out

    If a quarter of the groups show up, it will be overwhelming. I don’t see how MFNBC, Commie News Net, NBS, ABS, or CBS could NOT show it.

  134. m2 says:

    ha ha… well I really am now going to schedule in time to transfer to yahoo.
    screw google.

    even though my brother in law works there….
    it’s like a mini-socialist compound there.

  135. m2 says:

    all those stations manage to NOT show things everyday, that had it been a Republican they would have spent years dissecting the meaning and illegalities of “fishy emails & names” being gathered by the government.

  136. m2 says:

    no ABC is All Barack Channel.

    and that’s indisputable reality! They show his hours of infomercials and refuse ads by non-barack groups…

  137. samiam60 says:


  138. samiam60 says:

    We may get our first glimpse of the Civilian Security Force and they’re Water Cannons?

  139. m2 says:

    What Really Happened Outside Obama’s Town Hall Meeting
    From Henry Kriegel, Guest Posting on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:38 PM

    The Bozeman Tea Party and supporters clashed with paid union thugs outside the President’s Town Hall Meeting. The union hacks, modern-day brownshirts, included Service Employees International Union, a group affiliated with ACORN and the Montana AFL-CIO who bussed down union members and paid community organizers from Missoula and elsewhere around the state. While the Obama supporters arrived in the middle of the night, claimed our permitted area and had an early advantage with numbers, we eventually turned out 300-350 people and trounced them. The conflict which bordered on getting physically violent was in stark contrast to the tightly orchestrated event inside the hangar where the town hall meeting took place.

    The Obama supporters, who turned out approximately 150 people only a few of whom I could recognize from Gallatin County, initially outfoxed and out-positioned us. We tried several times to remove them as soon as we arrived in the early morning. The police were not able to remove them. Bill Dove, chief of airport security, using a megaphone told all of us that he and his men were there to protect the President of the United States and the Town Hall event, told the Obama supporters to leave our area and urged us to keep our cool. The Obama supporters refused to heed his order. Instead they continued to goad us. It was bordering on getting out-of-control but we refused to take the bait. We were outnumbered at that time—our people arrived late—and decided to back off, set up camp and do our program. After all, you can’t win a mud fight against pigs in a pig pen.

    While we were regrouping, we eventually overran their chants. When they said, “What do you want? Healthcare! When do you want it? Now!” We came back with “What do you want, Freedom. When do you want it? Now!”

    Overwhelmed, they tried, “Hey, hey. Ho, ho. The status quo has got to go.” We came back with, “Hey, hey. Ho, ho. Chicago thugs have got to go.”

    Here’s one account from Tim Ravndal of Townsend, who provided much-needed on-the-ground support for the Tea Party protest.

    “Tensions escalated, and several of the (Obama) protesters were drug away by the local police! After the (union-paid) bus pulled up, it was obvious that there was not going to be any intervention from the police. We discussed our options, and decided that we were best serving the people to back off and take the high ground morally. I can say that the scene was as close to a riot as one wants to get without actually crossing that line. These (Obama) protesters had no respect for private property or the Constitution!
    I will be the first to say that after we got our wagons circled in a new location, ‘We won!’ We set up our sound system donated by a local band and the protesters were no longer audible spouting pro-Barack Obama slogans and other insanities.”

    Mare Boustead, a local Tea Party activist called into my radio show last Thursday with this report:

    “The Obama supporters were in the wrong. The thing about the liberals is that everything they accuse us of being is exactly who they are…
    What I learned that day is that the best thing to do with people like that is to ignore them, turn our backs on them and get on with our message. Out-shoving them, out-shouting them doesn’t do anyone any good.”

    Mare says that like Glenn Beck, she will not shut up, she will not sit down, and the Republic will survive. Mare, who said, “they’re a lot of hills I’m ready to die on” challenged Obama supporters at the rally with some pointed questions.

    “I had to ask some of the heavier people what they were going to do when Obama told them they had to go on a diet or the smokers what they were going to do when Obama told them they had to stop smoking. They had no response. All they could do is get angry.

    When you can’t stand on an idea or a principle, you have nothing left except hostility. It’s exactly what they have, no principles and a lot of hostility, It’s pretty sad for them.”

  140. m2 says:

    liberals should note that the reason Obama has to have the unions be his counter-representation is because they paid MILLIONS upon MILLIONS to him. The Union bosses will be indestinguishable from “government”… they will be living on the hog like Pelosi.

    And these angry Union people are doing the bosses biddings… because the Government will be paying out their “benefits” packages from here on out, including taking over their healthcare.

    Yes… and they’ve sent their brainless minions out to fight for Obama. Do they know they’ll be the first to go on Government run care? First to be rationed and treated like cattle?

    All the perks of their private plans right now will be ZILCHO.

    But they just do what they’re told. Because their bosses live high on the hog… like Pelosi.

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  142. m2 says:

    getting off for the night!

    Talk to y’all laters!

  143. samiam60 says:

    The situation you posted above was handle perfectly by our Freedom Fighters. However, I do believe in the future the Union Obama Thugs will not allow for a retreat and force the fight that surely will come.

  144. m2 says:

    Mare Boustead cracked me up.
    She’s a hero.

  145. Foxwood says:

    Yeah… I’m missing Rose…

  146. Foxwood says:

    She’s like the Ex I never had… 😦

  147. m2 says:

    sorry, i just stumbled upon this… felt I should comment it:

    President Obama’s skill as a liar is critical to his success as a Socialist.

    Considering the zeal with which President Obama has in a very short time remade America, we can conclude that he will not stop until America is completely socialist. But one building block remains: government-controlled healthcare. As Lenin once said, “Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism.” To embark upon such an ambitious project that has yet failed at every attempt, President Obama must lie, since it is clear that a sizeable majority opposes his healthcare reform.

    And President Obama is a most gifted liar. We’re not talking about a new Clintonian era of likeable misinformation. This is not, “I didn’t inhale.” President Clinton’s loveable way of twisting the truth pales in comparison to Obama’s brazen boldness in lying even when Obama knows he will be caught.

    President Obama is a special breed of liar, employing an array of varying techniques intended to marshal public emotion in his favor. For example, he uses his own grandmother to gain sympathy for a plan that will leave millions of grandmothers without care.

    Unlike his predecessors, when caught in the midst of a deception, Obama is not deterred. He lies to cover his lies. Remember confessed terrorist Bill Ayers? First, then-Senator Obama denied knowing Ayers at all. Then, when the evidence was incontrovertible that Obama had indeed not only known Ayers, but also worked with him professionally, Obama changed his defense to one of ignorance, claiming that he was only a child when Ayers committed his crimes, and assumed that Ayers had been rehabilitated. Obama has continued and applied this pattern to a host of crucial national questions.

    Obama is a Socialist. And the authentic Socialist is not driven by morality or truth, but by the end that justifies the means.

    This philosophy reveals itself quite starkly in President Obama’s patent fabrications regarding his healthcare reform plans. Observe the consistent mismatch between the facts and what Obama says:

    Obama says that he does not support a “single-payer system” even though his comments in favor of single-payer healthcare are on tape, and his “public option” amounts to a piecemeal takeover of private-sector medical coverage.

    Obama says, “You will not be waiting in any lines,” but Section 1151 of HR 3200 penalizes hospitals for the costs incurred in readmitting patients, permitting the Health and Human Services Secretary to “reduce” payments to hospitals for readmission, a decision likely to force the sick out into the cold. If a cancer patient has a relapse, they might as well get drunk on morphine, because readmission will be exceedingly difficult.

    Obama ridicules the idea of “death panels” as right-wing hysteria, saying that HR 3200 contains no such entity. He is right. The Independent Medicare Advisory Council, the source of the death panel concerns, is the topic of another bill introduced by the Obama Administration. Its job? To cut Medicare payments. And specific sections of his proposed legislation create mechanisms that will result in the loss of care for elderly persons. In addition, Medicare Advantage programs would be ended, a cut of $150 billion. This has not stopped the President from saying, “We are not talking about cutting Medicare benefits.”

    Obama makes the transparently false claim that private insurance will not be affected by HR 3200, and that those who like their current plans can keep them, despite the fact that individual Americans will only be allowed to obtain private plans for a 5 year grace period, and government plans will become the default should citizens switch employers.

    Obama says that “46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage. They are just vulnerable. If something happens, they go bankrupt, or they don’t get the care they need.” But everyone can currently obtain care, even if they cannot pay. That is why 60 hospitals in California have closed, because the law requires them to treat everyone. And that 46 million number is known to be bogus, since 9.7 million of this number are illegal aliens. By one estimate, 14 million Americans choose not to obtain coverage. 18 million are under 34 and are either dependents or simply opt not to seek insurance, according to one study. When these numbers are subtracted, only 5 million uninsured remain.

    Obama says that “we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care you need,” but responding to a Medicare recipient that had been denied the only drug that would alleviate his condition, Obama had this to say, “Look, there may be — in nine out of 10 cases, the generic might work as well or better than the brand name. And we don’t want to just subsidize the drug companies if you’ve got one that works just as well as another.”

    Obama says that the healthcare reform measure will not be used to expand federal funding of abortions, knowing that the vaunted Hyde amendment applies only to Medicaid, not the public option, and that the Capps Amendment, as passed by the House Energy and Commerce Committee, explicitly requires every enrollee of a government-subsidized health insurance plan to be charged an extra fee to cover abortions. Obama can hardly plead ignorance.

    Obama makes outrageous claims that his healthcare reform will reduce the deficit and rein in healthcare spending, but the CBO says just the opposite. How can the present healthcare crisis, supposedly a crisis of spending, be solved with more spending, and by an institution known for its reckless disregard for fiscal realities?

    At the heart of this barrage of deception and dishonesty is an uncommon genius, innate to only the most devious sort. While Obama’s opponents spend their precious time addressing each new lie, Obama will keep the focus off the end-zone, and government healthcare will sail into place. This strategy has a name; it is called “the big lie,” and it depends on a fundamental truth of human nature: fatigue.

    At some point, citizens grow weary of hearing that their leaders are out for their ill, that political policies are nothing more than grand deceptions. Who wants to believe their President is a serial liar that seeks to impose full Socialism on the land of the free? Some truths are too big to contemplate, an observation that would lead one of the world’s most successful propagandists to write:

    It would never come into their [the people’s] heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.

    Obama is counting on this principle. Most Americans are growing tired and are ready for some sort of compromise, but we cannot give in to this impulse. Obama will not give up and neither can we. Be encouraged. Don’t lose hope. We must push forward, and keep the heat on the enemies of freedom. Americans must stay alert or the lie of all lies will consume what is left of liberty in America.

  148. m2 says:

    ah ha… this commenter from the AT article is funny:

    I always ask, if Socialism is so great, then why does it all have to be a lie?

    What a shallow existence that your entire life, your entire belief system, everything in your soul is nothing but a lie.


    The end.

    One whole conciously lies while knowing the truth and the lie, but puttting his mind in the mind set that lying about his idea is the best. A consummate liar!

  150. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good evening everyone. I everyone still around?

  151. m2 says:

    this comment from that AT article is right on:

    Aren’t his misleading lies an IMPEACHABLE offense??? How many lies and how long do we wait until we are a third world country!!!!! Bill Clinton was impeached for less!!!!

  152. m2 says:

    The Drudge Report has a link that describes how Obama is going to take his campaign directly to the school kids on September 8th. This Indoctrinator in Chief is going to have all children in a captive audience so he can “educate” them. Could you imagine if George Bush had wanted all the kids to tune into his message?

    This is outrageous.

    This is over the line.

    I will refrain from saying more.

    hey tellit, wg… I was getting off and now I’m looking at news blogs…

  153. m2 says:

    “The Lord of the Lies ”
    …bwha ha ha ha ha

    “The world, that understandable and lawful world, was slipping away.”
    – William Golding, Lord of the Flies, Ch. 5

  154. m2 says:

    In seeking Planned Parenthood’s support, candidate Obama pledged that “the first thing” he would do is to sign what sponsors call the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA). This misnamed legislation is often deceptively described as “codifying Roe v. Wade.” That’s like saying the Germans overran Luxembourg in World War II. They did that — but so very much more.

    FOCA would strike down every protective bill ever passed in Congress or in the states, every bill that even modestly protects unborn human life. Partial-birth abortion would be de-criminalized. Waiting periods would be struck down. Parental notice would be banned. Funding restrictions would be overturned. Informed consent laws, laws mandating that young mothers be offered — not forced — the opportunity to see their unborn child on ultra-sound–all these good, wise, and humane laws would be swept away by FOCA.

    Well, we know that as President, Obama has not yet signed FOCA. Congressional liberals have not even pressed hard to pass FOCA.

    Instead, the President is giving his best effort to pass ObamaCare, which he assures us does not require taxpayers to support abortion-on-demand.

    Back to the dog that didn’t bark. So how come Planned Parenthood isn’t barking?

    Why is it that the entire kennel of pro-abortion groups and abortion traffickers are not baying, yelping, yipping, and growling? Hasn’t President Obama obviously failed to deliver on signing FOCA as “the first thing?” They are quiet. Instead, they all wag their tails for ObamaCare.

    Family Research Council President Tony Perkins weeks ago challenged Planned Parenthood’s boss — Cecile Richards — to debate. My friend Tony does not ask Richards to debate the entirety of ObamaCare, just the one point: Is abortion funding in there or not? So far, Richards has limited herself to howling for passage of the bill. She won’t come out and debate.

    Question: Why would Richards and Planned Parenthood support any health care takeover if it did not include abortion-on-demand? Don’t they really believe that, as Hillary told a congressional committee earlier this year, that reproductive health care includes “abortion services?”

    We can look to the actions so far of congressional committees. Eleven times, pro-life amendments were offered in committee, amendments that would have specifically ruled out abortion funding. Eleven times these amendments were voted down. Pro-life Democrats joined Republicans in voting for these protective amendments. But they could not prevail.

    Yet we still have some religious writers and leaders who protest that unless they see the word abortion in the bill, they won’t believe it’s covered. They won’t see appendectomy, hysterectomy, or colonoscopy in the bill, either. Do these religious doubters doubt that those procedures are fully covered?

    Too many writers and commentators have arrived on scene like a new inspector from Scotland Yard. It’s as if they’ve never heard of these matters before. We have 33 years of experience fighting to keep American taxpayers from being forced to pay for abortion. We have learned under which shell they hide the marble.

    Back to the barn. We know the reason the pro-abortion kennel is quiet is that if they get ObamaCare, they will get FOCA and everything else they want. And that’s why we must continue to bark.

  155. m2 says:

    last one for the night:

    Almost unremarked upon by the major media is the fact that the hardest hit victims of Obama’s unemployment explosion are the very people who invested the most hope in him: blacks. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, black unemployment is now at 14.5% and again this doesn’t factor in the number of unemployed blacks who are discouraged or under-employed, likely pushing the real figure to above 20%. One can only imagine the cries of racism the left (including the media) would direct at a conservative Republican administration that had produced such disastrous results.

    In light of the damaging psychological effects of unemployment, its current high rate coupled with its extended length presages a new era of American demoralization

  156. m2 says:


    Elected 2008
    Inaugurated 2009
    Impeached 2010

  157. VF, you were so right, actually prophetic in your post which highlighted the cloward piven strategy.

    Good grief girl you gotta crystal ball over there?

    Originally when talking to my father, he said “that will take decades”…(he’s a freakin nuclear rocket scientist too).

    Anyway a few weeks ago he said, “this is like the cloward piven strategy…”

    Yeah Daddy! hahahaha

    Oh, hey my dad is the best.

  158. LisaInTX says:

    “The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. … We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?” –George Orwell, “1984”

  159. samhenry says:

    JIHAD 9/11 Casts Long Shadow over Current Domestic Debates
    September 2, 2009 by samhenry

  160. samhenry says:

    See the above at

  161. samhenry says:

    Hi Lisa – good to see you. George Orwell is our man. I am off to bed. I want so to visit all our blogs and perhaps tomorrow I will. I’ve been doing the editing on FRIENDS and trying to write for my blog and well, haven’t showed up here as much as I might but glad I did now to see your prophetic Orwell quote. That is just what is happening.

  162. arlenearmy says:

    Never know if a person actually falls on a sword unless they bleed.

  163. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis.
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  164. tellitlikeitis says:

    The H1N1 is the Obama Reichstag fire they been waiting for.


    Cops jump on swine-flu power: Shots heard ’round the world
    Pandemic bill allows health authorities to enter homes, detain without warrant

    Posted: September 01, 2009
    9:11 pm Eastern

    By Chelsea Schilling
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A “pandemic response bill” currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.

    If citizens refuse to comply with isolation or quarantine orders in the event of a health emergency, they may be imprisoned for up to 30 days and fined $1,000 per day that the violation continues.

    Massachusetts’ pandemic response bill

    “Pandemic Response Bill” 2028 was passed by the Massachusetts state Senate on April 28 and is now awaiting approval in the House.

    As stated in the bill, upon declaration by the governor that an emergency exists that is considered detrimental to public health or upon declaration of a state of emergency, a local public health authority, with approval of the commissioner, may exercise the following authorities (emphasis added):

    to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;
    to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended;
    to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material;
    to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;
    to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;
    to control ingress to and egress from any stricken or threatened public area, and the movement of persons and materials within the area;
    to adopt and enforce measures to provide for the safe disposal of infectious waste and human remains, provided that religious, cultural, family, and individual beliefs of the deceased person shall be followed to the extent possible when disposing of human remains, whenever that may be done without endangering the public health;
    to procure, take immediate possession from any source, store, or distribute any anti-toxins, serums, vaccines, immunizing agents, antibiotics, and other pharmaceutical agents or medical supplies located within the commonwealth as may be necessary to respond to the emergency;
    to require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual as a condition of licensure, authorization, or the ability to continue to function as a health care provider in the commonwealth;
    to waive the commonwealth’s licensing requirements for health care professionals with a valid license from another state in the United States or whose professional training would otherwise qualify them for an appropriate professional license in the commonwealth;
    to allow for the dispensing of controlled substance by appropriate personnel consistent with federal statutes as necessary for the prevention or treatment of illness;
    to authorize the chief medical examiner to appoint and prescribe the duties of such emergency assistant medical examiners as may be required for the proper performance of the duties of office;
    to collect specimens and perform tests on any animal, living or deceased;
    to exercise authority under sections 95 and 96 of chapter 111;
    to care for any emerging mental health or crisis counseling needs that individuals may exhibit, with the consent of the individuals
    State and local agencies responding to the public health emergency would be required to exercise their powers over transportation routes, communication devices, carriers, public utilities, fuels, food, clothing and shelter, according to the legislation.

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    Local public health authorities will be required to keep records of reports containing the name and location of all people who have been reported, their disease, injury, or health condition and the name of the person reporting the case. In addition, citizens may be subject to “involuntary transportation.”

    Line 341 of the bill states, “Law enforcement authorities, upon order of the commissioner or his agent or at the request of a local public health authority pursuant to such order, shall assist emergency medical technicians or other appropriate medical personnel in the involuntary transportation of such person to the tuberculosis treatment center. No law enforcement authority or medical personnel shall be held criminally or civilly liable as a result of an act or omission carried out in good faith in reliance on said order.”

    Vaccinate or isolate

    Whenever the commissioner or a public-health authority decides it is necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health, they are authorized:

    (1) to vaccinate or provide precautionary prophylaxis (preventative procedure) to individuals as protection against communicable disease and to prevent the spread of communicable or possible communicable disease, provided that any vaccine to be administered must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual; and
    (2) to treat individuals exposed to or infected with disease, provided that treatment must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual. An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined … if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction. (emphasis added)

    Under such circumstances, authorities are also allowed to decontaminate individuals and perform physical examinations, tests and specimen collection to determine whether “an individual presents a risk to public health.” If a citizen refuses, he or she may be isolated, quarantined and/or detained “for as long as may be reasonably necessary,” the bill states.

    Law enforcement authorities are authorized to “arrest without warrant any person whom the officer has probable cause to believe has violated an order for isolation or quarantine and shall use reasonable diligence to enforce such order. Any person who knowingly violates an order for isolation or quarantine shall be punished by imprisonment of not more than 30 days and may be subject to a civil fine of not more than $1,000 per day that the violation continues.” (emphasis added)

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    Other state quarantine orders

    Iowa’s Facility Quarantine Order

    As WND reported, a blank document from the Iowa Department of Public Health has been discovered online, designed to be filled in with the name of an H1N1 virus victim who is required to relocate from his or her home to a quarantine facility.

    The form, which began appearing Aug 31 in e-mails and on the Internet, has concerned a confused public already swimming in conflicting reports about the severity of the swine flu and intrusive government measures that many fear may be taken if the disease becomes a pandemic.

    The Iowa document, which WND confirmed with state officials is authentic, has done little to calm the public’s fears.

    “The Iowa Department of Public Health has determined that you have had contact with a person with Novel Influenza A H1N1,” the form reads. “The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease.

    “The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable,” the document continues, before listing mandatory provisions of compliance with relocation to a quarantine facility.

    According to the CDC, the following states have implemented legal actions in response to the H1N1 virus:

    Florida – the Florida surgeon general suspended distribution permit requirements Florida statutes to allow wholesale distribution of Tamiflu and Relenza. The state has also distributed a series of blank quarantine order forms, including a voluntary home quarantine agreement, a quarantine to residence order, a quarantine to residence order (non-compliance), a quarantine to facility order, quarantine detention order, quarantine of facility order, building quarantine closure order and area quarantine closure order.

    Iowa – In addition to the facility quarantine order listed above, Iowa has also made available forms for voluntary home confinement, home quarantine and home isolation.

    Massachusetts – Massachusetts lists its own procedures for isolation and quarantine.

    North Carolina – The North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services released a draft isolation order that would provide for imprisonment for up to two years and pretrial detention without bail for any citizen who fails to comply with an isolation order.

    Washington – Washington grants authority to local health officers to issue emergency detention orders causing citizens to be immediately and involuntarily isolated or quarantined for up to 10 days.

    In addition, governors and health commissioners in the following states have declared a state of emergency since April following concerns about the H1N1 virus: California, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nebraska, New York, Ohio, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin.

    Next step: Mandatory swine flu vaccines?

    H1N1 (photo: CDC)

    According to the White House, “Since the novel 2009-H1N1 flu virus emerged in the United States during the third week of April, the president has received regular briefings and asked his Cabinet to spare no effort in addressing this national security challenge.”

    The White House also lists as a priority, “Preparing for a voluntary, but strongly recommended, H1N1 flu shot program to be available to all Americans that wish to participate over a period of time.”

    Barbara Loe Fischer, president of the National Vaccine Information Center, referenced the controversial Massachusetts bill in her commentary, “Swine flu vaccine: Will we have a choice?”

    Fischer said, “Public health doctors have persuaded legislators to pass pandemic influenza legislation that will allow state officials to enter homes and businesses without the consent of occupants, to investigate and quarantine individuals without their consent, to require licensed health-care providers to give citizens vaccines and to ban the free assembly of citizens in the state.”

    She said World Health Organization doctors “immediately went into high gear” within days of identifying the new swine flu virus emerging out of Mexico and declared a public-health emergency. Now, Fischer says, the CDC is taking the opportunity to exercise unprecedented power.

    “Whenever the CDC now declares a public-health emergency, that declaration allows the Food and Drug Administration to permit emergency-use authorization for drug companies to fast-track creation of experimental drugs and vaccines that do not have to be tested as thoroughly as vaccines that go through the normal FDA-licensing process.

    “In this case, Congress responded to the public health emergency declaration by giving a group of drug companies $1 billion to fast-track experimental swine flu vaccines that may include whole, live or killed, or genetically engineered human and animal viruses, chemicals and potentially reactive oil-based adjuvants that manipulate the immune system to boost the vaccine’s potency. People who already have sensitive immune systems, such as those with allergy and autoimmune disorders, may be at special risk.”

    Furthermore, Fischer said 80 percent of all flu-like illness in a normal flu season is not caused by type A and B strains of influenza contained in annual flu shots.

    While Fischer argues that citizens should be given the opportunity to voluntarily submit to flu vaccinations, she said, “Vaccine-acquired immunity is temporary while immunity gained after recovering from influenza is longer lasting.”

    She said people born before 1957 may be naturally protected and at lower risk of being infected because they have long-lasting antibodies working against the virus and helping them resist infection.

    “Will health officials allow our children and grandchildren to get the same kind of natural, longer-lasting protective antibodies to type A and B influenza, including the new swine flu?” she asked. “It looks like few choices will be allowed.”

    Cure more deadly than disease?

    Although White House science advisers have warned that up to 90,000 Americans might die from H1N1 during the coming flu season, the head of the CDC responded by telling the public to ignore such a high morality estimate, saying the current H1N1 couldn’t kill that many people without mutating.

    Use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 resulted in 25 people suffering from severe paralysis and dying from respiratory failure after being injected with the vaccine – more than the number of lives claimed from the virus itself.

    Additionally, the vaccine is said to contain thimerosal, a preservative ingredient composed of mercury that has been linked to autism in young children.

    The FDA states, “Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine.”

    Thimerosal has also been linked to Guillain-Barre syndrome, or GBS – a serious disorder that occurs when the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks the nervous system and may result in death.

    In 1976, health officials found nearly 500 cases of GBS, and the vaccine was withdrawn 10 weeks after the link with GBS was suspected. Following the 1976 vaccination against swine flu in the U.S., a retrospective study found a likely eight-fold increase in the incidence of GBS.

    Now that the nation is preparing for another round of H1N1 flu shots, the Oregonian reported that the federal government is urging neurologists to keep a close watch for new cases of GBS.

    In a study conducted at the University of Hong Kong, the British Medical Journal reported that less than half of 8,500 doctors and nurses in public hospitals will accept vaccination against the swine flu – even following increases in the World Health Organization’s pandemic alert level.

    The study revealed, “The major barriers identified were fear of side effects and doubts about efficacy.”

    According to the following London report, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen revealed that even scientists who helped develop a vaccine for small pox are saying they will not take the vaccine and urging friends and family to refrain from taking the injection as well:

    Nonetheless, federal authorities are preparing to launch a nationwide campaign to convince Americans to get the swine flu vaccine, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. Government officials have expressed concern that public demand for immunization will not be high enough.

    “Many parents (in focus groups) expressed a lot of concerns about 2009 H1N1 vaccine. Those concerns were centered around the fact that it was new and it was being developed quickly,” said Kris Sheedy, a communications director with the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “There were comments such as ‘this is new and I don’t want my child to be a guinea pig.'”

    According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the government will spend “about $16 million on outreach to convince people of the need to get the swine flu vaccine.”

    As WND reported, alarmist language over possible outbreaks of swine flu as well as a series of moves by the federal government are fueling fears federal agents will soon be forcing citizens to be vaccinated – prompting the Constitution Party to launch a pre-emptive defense against any such effort.

    Fischer warned that Americans must become educated about vaccination, influenza, vaccine risks and public health laws in their states.

    “Every pharmaceutical drug, including vaccines, carries a risk. And those risks are greater for some than others,” she said. “In this time of fear, we can’t let that fear take away our freedom to make voluntary health decisions. The human right to informed consent to medical risk taking gives citizens the power to make sure that the cure is not more dangerous than the disease.”

  165. Foxwood says:

    The thing is, Tellit, what’s really in the vaccine?

  166. tellitlikeitis says:

    More communism from Obama. YOU GOTTA READ THIS TOO.

    Obama To Harvest Dissenter Information From Facebook, Twitter

    A plan by the White House to harvest personal information from social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter about dissenters who speak out against the Obama administration has been uncovered by The National Legal and Policy Center.

    The administration, which previously encouraged supporters to forward personal information they received from Obama detractors to a specified email address and also spammed people with unwanted emailed disinformation about health care reform, is advertising for a technology specialist to capture personal information posted by citizen on sites such as Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and MySpace where the administration has a presence.

    The chilling effect that such data collection would have is clear, and is likely the reason the Obama administration is undergoing the project. You just can’t have those pesky dissenters networking with each other while Obama’s job approval ratings go right where he’s taking our economy: The 30s.

    The goals of the program, as listed in the administration’s Request for Quote (a solicitation for contractors to submit bids for contract work), are clear.

    • Capture of comments by detractors and supporters of Obama: the RFQ specifies that the White House will capture “comments by both Obama critics and supporters, with no restriction as to how the White House would use the information.”

    • Transparency: there is none. The RFQ includes “extremely broad secrecy terms preventing the vendor from disclosing to the public or the media what information is being captured and archived (page 7, “Restriction Against Disclosure”)”;

    • Collection of data on citizens: the RFQ prescribes a massive data collection effort including capturing of comments on any website or social networking service;

    • Collection of any and all types of content: text, markup, graphics, video, audio, etc.

    I thought this was hyperbole until I actually read the RFQ (PDF LINK) . It’s all there in black and white.

    The contractor shall provide the necessary services to capture, store, extract to approved formats, and transfer content published by EOP on publicly-accessible web sites, along with information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP offices under PRA maintains a presence, throughout the term of the contract…. The contractor shall include in the information posted by non-EOP persons on publicly-accessible web sites where the EOP maintains a presence both comments posted on pages created by EOP and messages sent to EOP accounts on those web sites. Publicly-accessible sites may include, but are not limited to social networking sites. The contractor shall provide a user-friendly way of organizing and searching captured information…

    …Capture of comments and publicly-visible tags posted by users on publicly-accessible websites on which an EOP component subject to the PRA maintains a presence. Vendor must be able to either:
    (i) Capture all comments posted to a list of websites provided to vendor; or
    (ii) Capture a sample of comments posted to a list of websites provided to vendor, according to a sampling methodology that will be provided to vendor and approved by EOP.

    He’s making a list, checking it twice.

  167. tellitlikeitis says:


  168. tellitlikeitis says:

    I won’t take the vaccine. I am not going to be an f*ing gunea pig. They are going to have to hold me down and give it to me forcibly. That the only way I am going to get it.

  169. Foxwood says:

    He can’t take the heat, Tellit.

  170. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is another Obama lie. The democrats will try to pass some form of health care legistation and sneak the public option in after it is passed.

    Under fire, President Obama shifts strategy

    Aides to President Barack Obama are putting the final touches on a new strategy to help Democrats recover from a brutal August recess by specifying what Obama wants to see in a compromise health care deal and directly confronting other trouble spots, West Wing officials tell POLITICO.

    Obama is considering detailing his health-care demands in a major speech as soon as next week, when Congress returns from the August recess. And although House leaders have said their members will demand the inclusion of a public insurance option, Obama has no plans to insist on it himself, the officials said.

    “We’re entering a new season,” senior adviser David Axelrod said in a telephone interview. “It’s time to synthesize and harmonize these strands and get this done. We’re confident that we can do that. But obviously it is a different phase. We’re going to approach it in a different way. The president is going to be very active.”

    Top officials privately concede the past six weeks have taken their toll on Obama’s popularity. But the officials also see the new diminished expectations as an opportunity to prove their critics wrong by signing a health care law, showing progress in Afghanistan, and using this month’s anniversary of the fall of Lehman Brothers to push for a crackdown on Wall Street.

    On health care, Obama’s willingness to forgo the public option is sure to anger his party’s liberal base. But some administration officials welcome a showdown with liberal lawmakers if they argue they would rather have no health care law than an incremental one. The confrontation would allow Obama to show he is willing to stare down his own party to get things done.

    “We have been saying all along that the most important part of this debate is not the public option, but rather ensuring choice and competition,” an aide said. “There are lots of different ways to get there.”

    The timing, format, venue and content of Obama’s presentation are still being debated in the West Wing. Aides have discussed whether to stick to broad principles, or to send specific legislative language to Capitol Hill. Some hybrid is likely, the officials said.

    “I’m not going to put a date on any of this,” Axelrod said. “But I think it’s fairly obvious that we’re not in the second inning. We’re not in the fourth inning. We’re in the eighth or ninth inning here, and so there’s not a lot of time to waste.”

    Obama’s specifics will include many of the principles he has spelled out before, and aides did not want to telegraph make-or-break demands. But Axelrod and others are making plain that Obama will assert himself more aggressively — a clear sign that the president will start dictating terms to Congress.

    “His goal is to create the best possible situation for consumers, create competition and choice,” Axelrod said. “We want to bring a measure of security to people who have health insurance today. We want to help those who don’t have coverage today, because they can’t afford it, get insurance they can afford. And we want to do it in a way that reduces the overall cost of the system as a whole.”

    Also this fall, Obama wants to slap new regulations on Wall Street firms, a goal that is now considered a higher priority than cap-and-trade energy legislation in the West Wing. White House officials think the legislation will show voters, especially wavering independents, that he is serious about making the culprits of the economic crisis pay. It also helps that it doesn’t carry a big price tag, like other Obama priorities.

  171. Foxwood says:

    I gotta leave Tellit, I’ll catch you at my next cellsite.

  172. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood , I believe that they will pull out all the stops to silence dissenters now especially if health care goes down in flames. I am sure they have compiled an enemies list and will use government intimidation to silence all the critics. These people are like the mafia and will use every trick in the book or break any law if necessary to silence people that are speaking out against them. If they can’t find a crisis they will manufacture one to completely take over this government and create a dictatorship.

  173. tellitlikeitis says:

    The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.
    Karl Marx

  174. tellitlikeitis says:

    The Obama creed.

    From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
    Karl Marx

    Democracy is the road to socialism.
    Karl Marx

    A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
    Vladimir Lenin

    Fascism is capitalism in decay.
    Vladimir Lenin

  175. tellitlikeitis says:

    Democrats Try Tougher Tone on Health Plan
    Axelrod criticizes GOP negotiators as new strategy emerges in response to public outcry

    WASHINGTON — A top White House adviser said Tuesday he doubts two Senate Republicans at the center of health-care talks are negotiating seriously, as Democrats adopted a new, more confrontational tone accusing key Republicans of blocking change.

    Senior adviser David Axelrod, responding to recent broadsides against Democratic health plans by Republican Sens. Mike Enzi of Wyoming and Chuck Grassley of Iowa, said Democrats would reach out to other Republicans to finish a deal this year. He added that President Barack Obama is considering laying out a more detailed vision of what he wants in a health-overhaul plan.

    Democrats are shaping a strategy in response to the public pounding they took over the summer from some voters angry about proposed health-care changes. They are also responding to the troubles of the Senate Finance Committee, the only panel in Congress seeking a bipartisan bill.

    Democrats hope to persuade the public that Republicans are to blame for the stalemate and shift opinion in favor of an overhaul. They want to build enough momentum to win support from a small number of moderate Republicans, in particular the two senators from Maine.

    Enzi charged in a radio address Saturday that Democrats are “cutting hundreds of billions from the elderly” and planning “to limit or deny care based on age or disability of patients.” In a fund-raising letter, Grassley exhorted supporters to “help stop ‘Obama-Care.'” The senators are two of the three Senate Finance Committee Republicans on the “Gang of Six” health-care negotiators.

    “If you’re sitting at a table negotiating in good faith, then you probably don’t send out mailers saying, ‘Help me stop Obama-care.’ That’s just common sense,” Axelrod said. The two senators’ actions, he said, “suggested they don’t want to participate” in bipartisan talks. “They’re satisfied with the status quo. We are not,” Axelrod said.

  176. tellitlikeitis says:


    Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

    First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

    Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles (which erupted after police had used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving), Cloward and Piven published an article titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty” in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called “crisis strategy” or “Cloward-Piven Strategy,” as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect.

    In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when “the rest of society is afraid of them,” Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would “the rest of society” accept their demands.

    The key to sparking this rebellion would be to expose the inadequacy of the welfare state. Cloward-Piven’s early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. “Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to “live up” to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist “rule book” with a socialist one.

    The authors noted that the number of Americans subsisting on welfare — about 8 million, at the time — probably represented less than half the number who were technically eligible for full benefits. They proposed a “massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls.” Cloward and Piven calculated that persuading even a fraction of potential welfare recipients to demand their entitlements would bankrupt the system. The result, they predicted, would be “a profound financial and political crisis” that would unleash “powerful forces … for major economic reform at the national level.”

    Their article called for “cadres of aggressive organizers” to use “demonstrations to create a climate of militancy.” Intimidated by threats of black violence, politicians would appeal to the federal government for help. Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of “a federal program of income redistribution,” in the form of a guaranteed living income for all — working and non-working people alike. Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it. With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act.

    This was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse movements — mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. The flood of demands was calculated to break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down. Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown — providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.

    Cloward and Piven recruited a militant black organizer named George Wiley to lead their new movement. In the summer of 1967, Wiley founded the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). His tactics closely followed the recommendations set out in Cloward and Piven’s article. His followers invaded welfare offices across the United States — often violently — bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law “entitled” them. By 1969, NWRO claimed a dues-paying membership of 22,500 families, with 523 chapters across the nation.

    Regarding Wiley’s tactics, The New York Times commented on September 27, 1970, “There have been sit-ins in legislative chambers, including a United States Senate committee hearing, mass demonstrations of several thousand welfare recipients, school boycotts, picket lines, mounted police, tear gas, arrests – and, on occasion, rock-throwing, smashed glass doors, overturned desks, scattered papers and ripped-out phones.”These methods proved effective. “The flooding succeeded beyond Wiley’s wildest dreams,” writes Sol Stern in the City Journal. “From 1965 to 1974, the number of single-parent households on welfare soared from 4.3 million to 10.8 million, despite mostly flush economic times. By the early 1970s, one person was on the welfare rolls in New York City for every two working in the city’s private economy.”As a direct result of its massive welfare spending, New York City was forced to declare bankruptcy in 1975. The entire state of New York nearly went down with it. The Cloward-Piven strategy had proved its effectiveness.

    The Cloward-Piven strategy depended on surprise. Once society recovered from the initial shock, the backlash began. New York’s welfare crisis horrified America, giving rise to a reform movement which culminated in “the end of welfare as we know it” — the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which imposed time limits on federal welfare, along with strict eligibility and work requirements. Both Cloward and Piven attended the White House signing of the bill as guests of President Clinton.

    Most Americans to this day have never heard of Cloward and Piven. But New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani attempted to expose them in the late 1990s. As his drive for welfare reform gained momentum, Giuliani accused the militant scholars by name, citing their 1966 manifesto as evidence that they had engaged in deliberate economic sabotage. “This wasn’t an accident,” Giuliani charged in a 1997 speech. “It wasn’t an atmospheric thing, it wasn’t supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare.”

    Cloward and Piven never again revealed their intentions as candidly as they had in their 1966 article. Even so, their activism in subsequent years continued to rely on the tactic of overloading the system. When the public caught on to their welfare scheme, Cloward and Piven simply moved on, applying pressure to other sectors of the bureaucracy, wherever they detected weakness.

    In 1982, partisans of the Cloward-Piven strategy founded a new “voting rights movement,” which purported to take up the unfinished work of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Like ACORN, the organization that spear-headed this campaign, the new “voting rights” movement was led by veterans of George Wiley’s welfare rights crusade. Its flagship organizations were Project Vote and Human SERVE, both founded in 1982. Project Vote is an ACORN front group, launched by former NWRO organizer and ACORN co-founder Zach Polett. Human SERVE was founded by Richard A. Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, along with a former NWRO organizer named Hulbert James.

    All three of these organizations — ACORN, Project Vote and Human SERVE — set to work lobbying energetically for the so-called Motor-Voter law, which Bill Clinton ultimately signed in 1993. The Motor-Voter bill is largely responsible for swamping the voter rolls with “dead wood” — invalid registrations signed in the name of deceased, ineligible or non-existent people — thus opening the door to the unprecedented levels of voter fraud and “voter disenfranchisement” claims that followed in subsequent elections.

    The new “voting rights” coalition combines mass voter registration drives — typically featuring high levels of fraud — with systematic intimidation of election officials in the form of frivolous lawsuits, unfounded charges of “racism” and “disenfranchisement,” and “direct action” (street protests, violent or otherwise). Just as they swamped America’s welfare offices in the 1960s, Cloward-Piven devotees now seek to overwhelm the nation’s understaffed and poorly policed electoral system. Their tactics set the stage for the Florida recount crisis of 2000, and have introduced a level of fear, tension and foreboding to U.S. elections heretofore encountered mainly in Third World countries.

    Both the Living Wage and Voting Rights movements depend heavily on financial support from George Soros’s Open Society Institute and his “Shadow Party,” through whose support the Cloward-Piven strategy continues to provide a blueprint for some of the Left’s most ambitious campaigns.

  177. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama showing his true muslim colors.

    Obama Praises Islam as ‘Great Religion’
    President says Islam is “part of America,” hails the religion’s “commitment to justice and progress”

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Tuesday praised American Muslims for enriching the nation’s culture at a dinner to celebrate the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

    “The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country,” Obama said at the iftar, the dinner that breaks the holiday’s daily fast.

    The president joined Cabinet secretaries, members of the diplomatic corps and lawmakers to pay tribute to what he called “a great religion and its commitment to justice and progress.”

    Attendees included Congress’ two Muslim members — Reps. Keith Ellison and Andre Carson as well as ambassadors from Islamic nations and Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren.

    Obama shared the story of Bilqis Abdul-Qaadir, another invited guest, who broke a state record for most career points as a Massachusetts high school student.

    “As an honor student, as an athlete on her way to Memphis, Bilqis is an inspiration not simply to Muslim girls — she’s an inspiration to all of us,” he said.

    Obama also noted the contributions of Muhammad Ali, who was not in attendance, though the president borrowed a quote from famous boxer, explaining religion.

    “A few years ago,” Obama said, “he explained this view — and this is part of why he’s The Greatest — saying, ‘Rivers, ponds, lakes and streams — they all have different names, but they all contain water. Just as religions do — they all contain truths.”‘

    Ramadan, a monthlong period of prayer, reflection and sunrise-to-sunset fasts, began Aug. 22 in most of the Islamic world. It is believed that God began revealing the Quran to Muhammad during Ramadan, and the faithful are supposed to spend the month in religious reflection, prayer and remembrance of the poor.

    White House dinners marking the holy month are nothing new. Former President George W. Bush held iftars during his eight years in office.

    Obama has made a special effort since taking office to repair U.S. relations with the world’s Muslims, including visits to Turkey and Cairo. In a June speech at the Egyptian capital, as well as in one to another important Muslim audience, in Turkey, Obama said: “America is not — and never will be — at war with Islam.”

    Obama also released a video message to Muslims before the start to Ramadan. In the video, he said Ramadan’s rituals are a reminder of the principles Muslims and Christians have in common,including advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.

  178. samiam60 says:


    A suggested lesson plan that calls on school kids to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama is troubling some education experts, who say it establishes the president as a “superintendent in chief” and may encourage children to support him politically.

    Obama will deliver a national address directly to students on Tuesday, Sept. 8, which will be the first day of classes for many children across the country. In a letter to school principals last week, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said the president will “challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.” Obama will also call for a “shared responsibility” among students, parents and educators to maximize learning potential.

    Duncan’s letter includes “a menu of classroom activities for students in grades preK-6 and for students in grades 7-12. These are ideas developed by and for teachers to help engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives. We are also staging a student video contest on education.”

    Teachers could extend the lesson by having students “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.” Another suggestion is to have students “interview and share about their goals with one another to create a supportive community.”

    But Obama’s critics say the lesson plans and the president’s calls are troubling on many levels.

    “In general, I don’t think there’s a problem if the president uses the bully pulpit to tell kids to work hard, study hard and things like that. But there are some troubling hints in this, both educationally and politically,” said Neal McCluskey, associate director of Cato Institute’s Center for Educational Freedom.

    Among the concerns, McCluskey said, is the notion that students who do not support Obama or his educational policies will begin the school year “behind the eight ball,” or somehow academically trailing their peers.

    “It essentially tries to force kids to say the president and the presidency is inspiring, and that’s very problematic,” McCluskey said. “It’s very concerning that you would do that.”

    Parents of public school students would also have to pay for that “indoctrination,” regardless of their political background, he said.

    “That’s the fundamental problem. They could easily be funding the indoctrination of their children.”

    Frederick Hess, director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, said the suggested lesson plans cross the line between instruction and advocacy.

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate for teachers to ask students to help promote the president’s preferred school reforms and policies,” Hess said. “It very much starts to set up the president as a superintendent in chief.”

    Amid the debate on the federal government’s level of involvement on issues like health care and others, Hess said, “there’s a lot of people” on both sides of the political spectrum who will rightfully be concerned with the president’s call to action.

    “It shows exactly what the problem is,” he said. “This is going to open the door to all kinds of concerns.”

    Messages to the White House seeking comment were not immediately returned early Wednesday.

    After reading the Department of Education lesson plans for the speech, McCluskey said he noticed several passages that should set off “alarm bells,” including language that attempts to “glorify President Obama” in the minds of young students.

    “It could be a blatantly political move,” he said. “Nobody knows for sure, but it gives that impression.”

    McCluskey also noted that the lesson plans for young students contain suggestions to write letters to themselves on how they can help the president, but that suggestion is not in the lesson plan for middle and high schoolers — perhaps due to the likelihood of increased political ties at that age.

    “You don’t want to see this coming from the president,” McCluskey said. “You don’t want to see this coming from the federal government.”

  179. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning Tellitlikeitis and Foxwood.

  180. samiam60 says:


  181. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is now surprise to me Sam. Since everyone else is turning against him he is hoping he can still brainwash the children. Sounds like he is recruiting for the Hitler-Obama youth.

  182. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Sam.

  183. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam, goback and read that article I posted called
    Obama To Harvest Dissenter Information From Facebook, Twitter

    That at least to me was very predictable.

  184. tellitlikeitis says:

    Where is everybody today?

  185. samiam60 says:

    Tellit I have expected Facebook and Twitter as innocent tools of Obamination to lure unsuspecting folks into a baited trap to find out who is for or against him.

  186. samiam60 says:

    I also suspect this Blog post is now on the Obama Radar Screen thanks in part to when it was active.

  187. samiam60 says:

    We now live in peril of losing our Freedom of Speech and I for one can only be silenced one way.

  188. samiam60 says:

    President Obama appears to be abandoning hopes for a bipartisan breakthrough on health care reform, as advisers say the president will try to reframe the debate by rallying Democrats around the partisan bills that have already advanced.

    Top White House officials over the past few days have blasted Republicans who were part of a “Gang of Six” negotiating team on the Senate Finance Committee, accusing them of stonewalling progress on what was considered the only bipartisan package in Congress.

    Two senior administration officials on Wednesday confirmed to FOX News that Obama is now actively considering a prime-time address from the Oval Office or an address to a joint session of Congress to invigorate the debate, as Congress returns from a rocky recess.

    And the path forward, as the president sees it, is to unify Democrats around the three House bills and one Senate bill that have already passed out of committee. This strategy suggests the Senate Finance Committee is considered a lost cause and that the White House will use the Democratic Party’s strong majority in both chambers to finish the job.

    “We are entering a new phase driven in part by the actions of some in the GOP. They are essentially walking away from the table,” said one senior adviser, referring to GOP Senate Finance Committee negotiators Charles Grassley of Iowa and Mike Enzi of Wyoming.

    “Now is the time to begin to pull together the various strands and solutions from the four bills that have been marked up and other proposals,” one adviser told FOX News. “Basically all the cards are on the table.”

    The assessment comes after Enzi blasted Democratic proposals in a radio address over the weekend and after Grassley asked people for “support in helping me defeat Obama-care” in an August fundraising letter.

    The White House’s discontent with their actions was made clear early this week.

    “I think Senator Enzi’s clearly turned over his cards on bipartisanship and decided that it’s time to walk away from the table,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday.

    White House adviser David Axelrod also condemned their comments.

    Their remarks, he said, “were not exactly consistent with good-faith negotiations.”

    Though it was reported that Obama had no plans to insist on a controversial government-run insurance plan in his speech, White House advisers insisted it remains in the mix.

    “The president thinks it’s the best way to achieve his ultimate goal — choice and competition — but certainly not the only way to get there,” one adviser said.

    Officials were not clear on the details of the president’s coming push for reform.

    “The president is considering all of his options on how to advance the debate and get reform passed. This includes possibly laying out a more specific vision,” the adviser said. “No decisions have been made, though.”

    The president’s willingness to put more of his own proposals out to the public shows he’s been listening to critics, on both sides of the aisle, who say he has not done enough to steer the work of his congressional allies. In the absence of an Obama plan, public confidence in the president’s ability to handle the colossal task, and in health care reform itself, has eroded.

    As Obama embarks on what is perhaps his most important political campaign since the election, he still faces the tricky task of bridging the gap between fiscally conservative Democrats and the liberal wing of his party — let alone peeling off any remaining Republicans willing to strike a deal.

    But the president may have to take a clear stand on the so-called public option to really shake up the debate.

    “This speech only has to be two paragraphs long,” said a Democratic strategist who asked not to be named. “Two paragraphs saying you’re fighting for the public option no matter what. Or two paragraphs saying you’re setting it aside to focus on other priorities. Everything else has been said before and heard before. Over and over. If the White House doesn’t say one or the other, I’m not sure another speech can make much difference.”

  189. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam, If Obama and the democrats try to ram healthcare throught without public support they surely must know they are commiting political suicide. With that being said it makes me wonder what nefarious phoney crisis will be conjured up right before the 2010 elections to cause the elections to be suspended until they get everything in place for their evental socialist take over of the US after Martial Law is declared. I put nothing past these people. I believe they are capable of anything and will do anything to stay in power.

  190. samiam60 says:

    Tellit you are right on and I for one think Obama plans to be in Power for a very long time.

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  192. ohiobelle says:

    Hello everybody. I am sorry I haven’t been around for the past week and that I can’t stay now. I just wrote about it in the cr.

    Keep up the good work!! Obama is trying to silence us to move forward with his communist take over. Remember, IT’S OUR COUNTRY; NOT HIS!!

    Hopefully I can return next week. Bye all.

  193. m2 says:

    … As Obama celebrates Ramadon and (while we are not a christian nation)… and enables uber-conservative Sharia Law to take foot in our justice system:

    Thomas Lifson

    The president has a soft spot in his heart for the practice of covering women, lest they incite lust in the hearts of men. Bookworm points out that Barack Obama has on two occasions made rather a large point of supporting the Muslim practice if keeping women covered in hijabs and niqabs. In his famous Cairo speech, he referred to covering positively three times. Last night, at his Ramadan dinner, he returned to the subject.

    The president cloaks his support for treating women this way in the language of choice. The right to wear niqabs to school, for instance. But the argument goes far beyond individual choice to the strategy of Hijra, conquest by immigration. One critical step in the process of Islamization of a society is marking the Muslim population apart from the rest of society. Recognizing this, France bans hijabs and niqabs from its schools. Obama wishes to take American society in a direction that France has already discovered is dangerous.

    In Florida, a Muslim fought for, but lost, the right to be photographed for her driver’s license with only her eyes showing. In courts, witnesses have demanded the right to remain covered, so jurors are denied the ability to read facial expressions. So far, America has resisted this stage in the transition to Sharia rule openly advocated by influential Muslim leaders here.

    The president is throwing his lot in with those who push Islam back toward extremely conservative interpretations of Koranic injunctions to modesty. These coverings are cultural, not religious artifacts.

    Attaturk, the father of modern Turkey, recognized the importance of resisting these medieval cultural injunctions. Either Obama is a mush-headed liberal who doesn’t realize the larger context and only wants to be “tolerant”, or else the middle name Hussein means something, as do his formative years spent in a Muslim country.

    American feminists are now disgracing themselves in their groveling toward the attitudes Obama expresses. Don’t miss the idiocy of Naomi Wolf, the female version of David Brooks, as chronicled in Bookworm’s blog.

  194. tellitlikeitis says:

  195. tellitlikeitis says:

  196. tellitlikeitis says:

  197. m2 says:

    hiya tellit!
    sorry Belle we can’t see you longer… I am making rounds, check this out tellit and everyone… brilliant.

  198. tellitlikeitis says:

    More rowdy town halls.

  199. tellitlikeitis says:

    This guy is right on the money.

  200. tellitlikeitis says:

    That was cute m2 and right on the money. Our poor children literally.

  201. m2 says:

    I LOVE that… the czar question… the communist…

    Obama is declining into A TOTAL JOKE and EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

  202. m2 says:

    Charlie Gibson knows when to throw in the towel. The good days are over for libs, back when everyone was glazed with Obama fever….

    Bye Charlie!
    Enjoy retirement before Obamites steal everything they can from you Mr. Rich. Enjoy the country before it slides into an Eastern European style slum.

    You did your part in the propaganda sector.

  203. tellitlikeitis says:

    This video is pretty telling. A slip of the tongue ?

  204. tellitlikeitis says:

    M2, Charlie knows it’s time to bail. He’s getting out before he has to report on the crash and burn of the Obama administration.

  205. tellitlikeitis says:

    I can’t believe Dianne Sawyer will be taking over for Charlie Gibson. She is about as dull and as milk toast as you can get. People will be put to sleep during her newscast. Katy Couric will probably beat her in the ratings war.

  206. m2 says:

    hey I saw that Obama video before. I have to say he’s either stupid or thinks he’s godly awesome, so much that he’ll be there.

    He’s banking on the fact that bigger gov’t more choas = more people demanding gov’t savior… like FDR.

    I think he may discover that more people have a basic understanding of economics and history than he would like.

    Impeach Obama!

  207. tellitlikeitis says:

  208. m2 says:

    where’s the unity Obama?

    a good sell wasn’t it?
    put in crazy previously jailed radicals who are probably treasonous since this GUY is a Communist!

  209. tellitlikeitis says:

    This guy is is on one big rant!

  210. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sorry wrong video. lol

  211. Foxwood says:

    This has been one of those days, everybody… When I work, I work alot.

  212. Foxwood says:

    Sami, I can’t believe our children and grandchildren will be indoctrinated by our savior on Sept. 8, 2009, but there is hope.

  213. Foxwood says:

    Please read the article in the link above… It might be something you may want to do for your children.

  214. samiam60 says:

    Thanks for that link Foxwood. I have emailed that to everyone I know with kids including my own.

  215. samiam60 says:

    Hey Obama we will NOT let you molest our children with your Commie indoctrinations.
    These girls are proof our Colors Don’t Run!

  216. Foxwood says:

    These people are after our children Sami. My oldest was a Rush baby, but I don’t know what happened. I’m trying to let my grandchild know that all of her friends will be skipping school that day. Hope it works.

  217. samiam60 says:

    I don’t believe I have seen this much patriotism in America since 9-11. This march on Washington on 9-12 is going to send an undeniable message to the Demander in Chief. I am currently trying to make arrangements to go and am hoping I am able to.
    If I am I will be working non stop to print up all the signs and banners I can to pass out to people there.

  218. Foxwood says:

    Sami, If you do go, please give out my link to the Constitution Project. We have to get our Constitution back.

  219. samiam60 says:

    I will letter you link on both sides of my Car in big bold letters along with my phrase
    “Must Bust Obama or Bust”

  220. Foxwood says:

    I had a long day, Sami. I gotta go to bed. Hopefully I’ll be up early.

  221. m2 says:

    BOSTON (AP)—Curt Schilling(notes), the former major league pitcher who won the allegiance of Bostonians by leading the Red Sox to the 2004 World Series, said Wednesday that he has “some interest” in running for the seat held for nearly 50 years by Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy.

    Schilling, a registered independent and longtime Republican supporter, wrote on his blog that while his family and video game company, 38 Studios, are high priorities, “I do have some interest in the possibility.”

    “That being said, to get to there, from where I am today, many, many things would have to align themselves for that to truly happen,” he added.

    Any other comment “would be speculation on top of speculation,” Schilling said, adding, “My hope is that whatever happens, and whomever it happens to, this state makes the decision and chooses the best person—regardless of sex, race, religion or political affiliation—to help get this state back to the place it deserves to be.”

  222. m2 says:

    sam, as soon as the breadth of America sees that Chavez/Castro/dictator, Jon Il, Commie play by Obama in the schools with their loaded questionnaires about “helping Obama” (where is America? What happend to America? Is it now Obamaland?)

    You will SEE THE WATERLOO BEFORE YOUR EYES. Maybe on live tv post state-propaganda sell next week on tv……….

  223. samiam60 says:

    Obama and his Czars have Ego’s that are off the charts. It will be wonderful to see on Sept 12 th when the Long Legged Mac Daddy gets his legs lopped off at the knees and He and his Czars find out their power trip in America is Officially OVER!

  224. samiam60 says:

    “There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily .”


  225. samiam60 says:

    Amendment 1 – Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
    free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
    the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of

  226. samiam60 says:

    Not Freedom from Religion but Freedom of Religion. Separation of Church and State? Give me a break and let God back in our Schools and our Society before we are totally Destroyed.

  227. arlenearmy says:

    Hello folks,
    Vann Jones is calling some of us “ass holes”. That man is acting like a gang banger! I truly feel that if he got into a confrontation, he will result to physical violence.

    Glenn Beck on yesterday said that he & his family’s life is in danger & have to live in high security. And w/all this (if I was a parent of school age children) I would not allow my child to go anywhere near Obama.

    Folks, this is telling us without any doubt, that a THUG is in the WH.

  228. samiam60 says:

    If Liberals were not constantly lying they would most definitely be MUTE.

  229. samiam60 says:

    Not one of my Grandchildren will be attending school on Sept. 8th.

  230. arlenearmy says:

    What bites is that parents got parental block on TV’s at the house; But its hard to put parental block in the class room. Parents have no choice but to pull the child out of school on Obama Indoctrination Day. No telling what that man will say.

    Due to the heat, Obama changed the write-up. But when he get to that microphone, he might blurt out the unthinkable.

  231. arlenearmy says:

    Alan Colmes is so full of it. I saw him on Oreilly. Im so glad Hannity is free of him.

  232. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow Right-wing Domestic Terrorists!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  233. Foxwood says:

    PASS Day – Parentally Approved Skip School Day – Sept. 8, 2009

    Berry Obutthole wants to indoctrinate your children on Sept. 8, 2009, but there is hope! Keep your child out of school that day. The website below gives you some excuses you can use to take your child out of classes that day. Check it out.

  234. samiam60 says:

    Morning Foxwood, Thanks for the Cannon Blast, I almost overslept.

  235. samiam60 says:

    I would like to dedicate this song to a very good friend:

  236. Foxwood says:

    Just heard this on Fox and Friends.
    The National Guard was told by the Pentagon to reduce ranks, but the Army was told to increase ranks.

    Do you know what that means, Sami?

  237. Foxwood says:

    I’m trying to find it on the Fox website.

  238. Foxwood says:

    This will make it easier to send troops away and leave less troop home. Why would someone think of doing such a thing?

  239. Foxwood says:

    Shower time. BBL

  240. Foxwood says:

    Heading out. Hope today’s not as bad as yesterday.

  241. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning All!

    Hiya Fox!

    Am putting finishing touches this morning’s blogpost…

    BRB! 😉

  242. tellitlikeitis says:


    Parents upset over ‘leftist propaganda’ video
    Education » Principal apologizes for showing ‘I Pledge’ to students.
    By Lisa Schencker

    The Salt Lake Tribune

    Updated: 09/02/2009 10:07:30 AM MDT

    A school principal has apologized for showing a video at an assembly that a politically conservative group leader is calling “radical, leftist propaganda.”

    Children at Eagle Bay Elementary School in Farmington were shown a short video called “I pledge” on Aug. 28. The video opens with an image of President Barack Obama and part of a speech in which he says, “Let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other.” The video then features celebrities making pledges about how they will help the president and the world — and that’s where some say the problem lies.

    Many pledges, such as supporting local food banks,

    I Pledge poll
    Should the video “I Pledge” be shown in an elementary school?

    smiling more, and caring for the elderly are noncontroversial. But other pledges, such as “to never give anyone the finger when I’m driving again,” “to sell my obnoxious car and buy a hybrid” and to advance stem cell research cross the line, some say.

    “Showing the video in a public school is completely inappropriate,” said Jennifer Cieslewicz, whose daughter is a first-grader at the school. “I don’t believe a video such as this that promotes certain values should be shown to elementary students, especially without parents being aware. ”

    Chris Williams, Davis School District spokesman, said school principal Ofelia Wade and school PTA leaders decided to show the video as part of an assembly about the school’s theme for the year, service. He said the PTA board chose the video and Wade did not see it before it was shown in the assembly.

    “It got to a point where she turned to her assistant and said, ‘Oops, I wish I would have seen this before. I don’t think I would have shown it,’ ” Williams said. He said Wade could see how some adults might find the video political.

    “She acknowledges she was wrong and apologizes for it and says she’s sorry,” Williams said. Attempts to reach school PTA leaders Tuesday evening were unsuccessful.

    Williams said Wade plans to send a letter home to parents Wednesday about the issue.

    Gayle Ruzicka, president of conservative Utah Eagle Forum, said the video was blatantly political. She said other offensive pledges included, “I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama,” “I pledge allegiance to the funk, to the united funk of funkadelica,” and pledges to not use plastic grocery bags and not flush the toilet after urinating.

    “It’s very inappropriate to show a radical, leftist propaganda piece that political to children,” Ruzicka said. “If parents want their children to learn about those things and do them in the home, wonderful, fine, but it’s not the place of the school to show a one-sided propaganda piece to children without parents knowing about it.”

    Cieslewicz said such values should be decided in the home, not at school.

    “They shouldn’t be troubling our youth with the woes of the world and making them feel like we’re in slavery or they have to worry about how many times they flush the toilet or if they have a plastic water bottle,” Cieslewicz said, referring to pledges in the video to “end slavery.”

    Ruzicka said she contacted local media about the video after receiving complaints from several parents. Ruzicka said she worried the video’s messages would confuse children whose parents might choose to use plastic bags when shopping or who want their children to flush the toilet after every use. Also she said she didn’t like a pledge “to be of service to Barack Obama” as he is here to serve Americans, not the other way around.

    Ruzicka said she’d like to see the school district send a link to the video to all parents before an upcoming back-to-school night so they can voice their opinions and discuss it with their children. Williams said it’s unlikely the district will send out a link, but parents are welcome to access the video on YouTube.

  243. tellitlikeitis says:


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  245. tellitlikeitis says:

    Government Health Care at it’s finest. This is what Obama and the democrats want for us.

    Sentenced to death on the NHS
    Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme to help end their lives, leading doctors have warned.

    In a letter to The Daily Telegraph, a group of experts who care for the terminally ill claim that some patients are being wrongly judged as close to death.

    Under NHS guidance introduced across England to help doctors and medical staff deal with dying patients, they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.

    As a result the scheme is causing a “national crisis” in patient care, the letter states. It has been signed palliative care experts including Professor Peter Millard, Emeritus Professor of Geriatrics, University of London, Dr Peter Hargreaves, a consultant in Palliative Medicine at St Luke’s cancer centre in Guildford, and four others.

    “Forecasting death is an inexact science,”they say. Patients are being diagnosed as being close to death “without regard to the fact that the diagnosis could be wrong.

    “As a result a national wave of discontent is building up, as family and friends witness the denial of fluids and food to patients.”

    The warning comes just a week after a report by the Patients Association estimated that up to one million patients had received poor or cruel care on the NHS.

    The scheme, called the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP), was designed to reduce patient suffering in their final hours.

    Developed by Marie Curie, the cancer charity, in a Liverpool hospice it was initially developed for cancer patients but now includes other life threatening conditions.

    It was recommended as a model by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), the Government’s health scrutiny body, in 2004.

    It has been gradually adopted nationwide and more than 300 hospitals, 130 hospices and 560 care homes in England currently use the system.

    Under the guidelines the decision to diagnose that a patient is close to death is made by the entire medical team treating them, including a senior doctor.

    They look for signs that a patient is approaching their final hours, which can include if patients have lost consciousness or whether they are having difficulty swallowing medication.

    However, doctors warn that these signs can point to other medical problems.

    Patients can become semi-conscious and confused as a side effect of pain-killing drugs such as morphine if they are also dehydrated, for instance.

    When a decision has been made to place a patient on the pathway doctors are then recommended to consider removing medication or invasive procedures, such as intravenous drips, which are no longer of benefit.

    If a patient is judged to still be able to eat or drink food and water will still be offered to them, as this is considered nursing care rather than medical intervention.

    Dr Hargreaves said that this depended, however, on constant assessment of a patient’s condition.

    He added that some patients were being “wrongly” put on the pathway, which created a “self-fulfilling prophecy” that they would die.

    He said: “I have been practising palliative medicine for more than 20 years and I am getting more concerned about this “death pathway” that is coming in.

    “It is supposed to let people die with dignity but it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    “Patients who are allowed to become dehydrated and then become confused can be wrongly put on this pathway.”

    He added: “What they are trying to do is stop people being overtreated as they are dying.

    “It is a very laudable idea. But the concern is that it is tick box medicine that stops people thinking.”

    He said that he had personally taken patients off the pathway who went on to live for “significant” amounts of time and warned that many doctors were not checking the progress of patients enough to notice improvement in their condition.

    Prof Millard said that it was “worrying” that patients were being “terminally” sedated, using syringe drivers, which continually empty their contents into a patient over the course of 24 hours.

    In 2007-08 16.5 per cent of deaths in Britain came about after continuous deep sedation, according to researchers at the Barts and the London School of Medicine and Dentistry, twice as many as in Belgium and the Netherlands.

    “If they are sedated it is much harder to see that a patient is getting better,” Prof Millard said.

    Katherine Murphy, director of the Patients Association, said: “Even the tiniest things that happen towards the end of a patient’s life can have a huge and lasting affect on patients and their families feelings about their care.

    “Guidelines like the LCP can be very helpful but healthcare professionals always need to keep in mind the individual needs of patients.

    “There is no one size fits all approach.”

    A spokesman for Marie Curie said: “The letter highlights some complex issues related to care of the dying.

    “The Liverpool Care Pathway for the Dying Patient was developed in response to a societal need to transfer best practice of care of the dying from the hospice to other care settings.

    “The LCP is not the answer to all the complex elements of this area of health care but we believe it is a step in the right direction.”

    The pathway also includes advice on the spiritual care of the patient and their family both before and after the death.

    It has also been used in 800 instances outside care homes, hospices and hospitals, including for people who have died in their own homes.

    The letter has also been signed by Dr Anthony Cole, the chairman of the Medical Ethics Alliance, Dr David Hill, an anaesthetist, Dowager Lady Salisbury, chairman of the Choose Life campaign and Dr Elizabeth Negus a lecturer in English at Barking University.

    A spokesman for the Department of Health said: “People coming to the end of their lives should have a right to high quality, compassionate and dignified care.

    “The Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) is an established and recommended tool that provides clinicians with an evidence-based framework to help delivery of high quality care for people at the end of their lives.

    “Many people receive excellent care at the end of their lives. We are investing £286 million over the two years to 2011 to support implementation of the End of Life Care Strategy to help improve end of life care for all adults, regardless of where they live.”

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