ObamaCare = ObamaSnoop; Socialist Backdoor to everything you hold PRIVATE!

ObamaCare = ObamaSnoop

ObamaCare = ObamaSnoop

While Folks have been distracted with the White House Tracking Cookies that allow Obama Administration tracking of your every move on the Internet if they so choose… a deeper and much more sinister trap lies in store for all Americans if ObamaCare is put into Federal Law.


Check out HR-3200: pages 195-196 (out of 1,107 pages), in Section 431, entitled DISCLOSURES TO CARRY OUT HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE SUBSIDIES.

The ObamaCare Revenue Panels will be given full access to your tax returns and will examine everything there is to learn about you including the social security numbers of you and your spouse and any other income tax identifying information, your filing status, your income amount, how many  dependents you have, and anything else they want to see.

Snoopers within the federal government will be given carte blanche access to all your private IRS information as far back as it goes.

But wait! That’s not enough for the Socialists using ObamaCare as a tool of Invasion of Privacy… ObamaCare also gives these sumbags access to all your Social Security Records.

See Section 1801 of HR 3200.

There is also a provision in the Senate’s version of ObamaCare which gives the Socialists direct access to all your bank account information.

What about the privacy of your medical history and your health records? ObamaCare will force it all into government accessable computer databases thus giving full and instant access to the Federal Government to every thing about you which is none of their damn business.

This is just one of the facets of giving the Government full control of your health care instead of private health insurers as it is now.

Who is going to protect you from Government Snoopers?

Answer: If ObamaCare becomes Law,
No One Will Protect Your Privacy
and you will NEVER get it back


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247 Responses to ObamaCare = ObamaSnoop; Socialist Backdoor to everything you hold PRIVATE!

  1. m2 says:

    Obama is a domestic terrorist.

    He’s using anarchy to “overthrow the government” and institute Obama-goverment (fascist state ruled by 1-party dictatorship).

  2. m2 says:

    everyone in this country who is rational and normal, must understand that nothing he is doing is for us. It’s impossible not to understand that.

  3. VotingFemale says:

    what amazes me M2, are the rank and file DEM dolts who believe their leaders are pure and can do no wrong.

    that kind of blind trust is what gets us all in trouble when an ASSHAT like Obutthole comes along.

  4. samiam60 says:

    Government Identity theft will be the new corruption of its workers. Imagine all these workers with access to our identity. Now, imagine Acorn workers having privy to it?

  5. samiam60 says:

    This is becoming like the Hitler Frenzy of the 1930’s.

  6. m2 says:

    I think they know, but it is hard to admit something they believed in is not what it was.

    Have to go! BBL!!

  7. tellitlikeitis says:

    This town hall was stacked with Obama supporters. I wonder if the taxpayer paid for the busses.

  8. tellitlikeitis says:

    When I hear these bold face liars talk my blood boils into steam.

  9. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is
    our future under Obamacare.


    ‘Cruel and neglectful’ care of one million NHS patients exposed

    One million NHS patients have been the victims of appalling care in hospitals across Britain, according to a major report released today

    In the last six years, the Patients Association claims hundreds of thousands have suffered from poor standards of nursing, often with ‘neglectful, demeaning, painful and sometimes downright cruel’ treatment.

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    ‘Appalling care’ cost up to 1200 lives in Staffordshire The charity has disclosed a horrifying catalogue of elderly people left in pain, in soiled bed clothes, denied adequate food and drink, and suffering from repeatedly cancelled operations, missed diagnoses and dismissive staff.

    The Patients Association said the dossier proves that while the scale of the scandal at Mid-Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust – where up to 1,200 people died through failings in urgent care – was a one off, there are repeated examples they have uncovered of the same appalling standards throughout the NHS.

    While the criticisms cover all aspects of hospital care, the treatment and attitude of nurses stands out as a repeated theme across almost all of the cases.

    They have called on Government and the Care Quality Commission to conduct an urgent review of standards of basic hospital care and to enforce stricter supervision and regulation.

    Claire Rayner, President of the Patients Association and a former nurse, said:“For far too long now, the Patients Association has been receiving calls on our helpline from people wanting to talk about the dreadful, neglectful, demeaning, painful and sometimes downright cruel treatment their elderly relatives had experienced at the hands of NHS nurses.

    “I am sickened by what has happened to some part of my profession of which I was so proud.

    “These bad, cruel nurses may be – probably are – a tiny proportion of the nursing work force, but even if they are only one or two percent of the whole they should be identified and struck off the Register.”

    The charity has published a selection of personal accounts from hundreds of relatives of patients, most of whom died, following their care in NHS hospitals.

    They cite patient surveys which show the vast majority of patients highly rate their NHS care – but, with some ten million treated a year, even a small percentage means hundreds of thousands have suffered.

    Ms Rayner said it was by “sad coincidence” that she trained as a nurse with one of the patients who had “suffered so much”.

    She went on: “I know that she, like me, was horrified by the appalling care she had before she died.

    “We both came from a generation of nurses who were trained at the bedside and in whom the core values of nursing were deeply inculcated.”

    Katherine Murphy, Director of the Patients Association, said “Whilst Mid Staffordshire may have been an anomaly in terms of scale the PA knew the kinds of appalling treatment given there could be found across the NHS. This report removes any doubt and makes this clear to all. Two of the accounts come from Stafford, and they sadly fail to stand out from the others.

    “These accounts tell the story of the two percent of patients that consistently rate their care as poor (in NHS patient surveys).

    “If this was extrapolated to the whole of the NHS from 2002 to 2008 it would equate to over one million patients. Very often these are the most vulnerable elderly and terminally ill patients. It’s a sad indictment of the care they receive.”

    The Patients Association said one hospital had threatened it with legal action if it chose to publish the material.

    Pamela Goddard, a piano teacher from Bletchingley, in Surrey, was 82 and suffering with cancer but was left in her own excrement and her condition deteriorated due to her bed sores.

    Florence Weston, from Sedgley in the West Midlands, died aged 85 and had to remain without food or water for several days as her hip operation was repeated cancelled.

    The charity released the dossier to highlight the poor care which a minority of patients in the NHS are subjected to.

    Ms Murphy said the numbers rating care as poor came despite investment in the NHS doubling and the number of frontline nurses increasing by more than a quarter since 1996.

    The personal stories were revealed to prevent their cases being ignored as only representing a small portion of patients.

    The report said: “These are patients, not numbers. These are people, not statistics.”

    Dr Peter Carter, Chief Executive of the Royal College of Nursing, said he was concerned that public confidence in the NHS could be undermined by the examples cited and it would affect morale in hardworking staff.

    He said: “The level of care described by these families is completely unacceptable, and we will not condone nurses who behave in ways that are contrary to the principles and ethics of the profession.

    “However we believe that the vast majority of nurses are decent, highly skilled individuals.

    “This report is based on the two per cent of patients who feel that their care was unacceptable. Two per cent is too many but we are concerned that this might undermine the public’s confidence in the world-class care they can expect to receive from the NHS.”

    Barbara Young, Chairman of the Care Quality Commission, the super-regulator, said: “It is absolutely right to highlight that standards of hospital care can vary from very good to poor.

    “Many people are happy with the care they receive, but we also know that there are problems.

    “I am in no doubt that many hospitals need to raise their game in this area.

    “Where NHS trusts fail to meet the mark, we have tough new enforcement powers, ranging from warnings and fines to closure in extreme cases. We will not hesitate to use these powers when necessary to bring improvement.

    “We will be asking NHS trusts and primary care trusts how they are ensuring that the needs of patients and their safety and dignity are kept at the heart of care.”

    Chris Beasley, Chief Nursing Officer at the Department of Health said the care in the cases highlighted by the PA was “simply unacceptable”.

    She added: “It is important to note this is not representative of the picture across the NHS.

    “The NHS treats millions of people every day and the vast majority of patients experience good quality, safe and effective care – the Care Quality Commission’s recent patient experience survey shows that 93 percent of patients rate their overall care as good or excellent.

    “We will shortly be publishing complaints data on the NHS Choices website and expect trusts to publish the number of complaints they receive, setting out how these are successfully resolved.”

  10. tellitlikeitis says:

    More Lies from congressman moron.

  11. tellitlikeitis says:

    What a pack of Liars!

  12. tellitlikeitis says:

    You should hear the answer about why tort reform was not included in the healthcare bill.
    What a bunch of Bull!

  13. tellitlikeitis says:

    Jim Moron is right up Obama’s a$$. OMG, He is talking about other countries being corrupt. What a dillusional hypocrite.

  14. Foxwood says:

    The whole healt care bill in not only un-Constitutional, but Communistic. The teachers unions have done their jobs well in the public schools system. The Democratic lemming march right along with no though about freedom.

  15. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama Lied! Granny died!

  16. tellitlikeitis says:

    That’s true Foxwood but not everyone went through the public school system. Thank god there is the private school option as an alternative. At least there is for now.

  17. Foxwood says:

    I think Glenn Beck is having an effect on Rush. Rush is talking about Zek Emanuels brother.

  18. tellitlikeitis says:

    BTW, Good afternoon.

  19. Foxwood says:

    Re write…
    I think Glenn Beck is having an effect on Rush. Rush is talking about Zek Emanuel.

  20. Foxwood says:

    College is probably worse… Depends on the college.

  21. tellitlikeitis says:

    The left is trying feverishly to get glenn by boycotting his sponsers in hopes that it will get him kicked off of fox. I have to laugh because fox news is hot with ratings now and there are sponsers lining up to cover the void.

  22. tellitlikeitis says:

    That’s true about college. College is a left wing indoctrination camp but these college kids get religion real fast when they land a job, get their first paycheck and see how much the goverment steals out of it.

  23. Foxwood says:

    Gotta stop again for a moment and work on a cellsite.. BBL.

  24. Foxwood says:

    Some do Tellit, but something happens on the east and west coasts… Those kid keep their values for some reason…

  25. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is a good article.


    Vive Le French Care?

    By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:20 PM PT

    Health Systems: Health care in France is often held up as a model the U.S. might follow. Yet the French have their own problems that show there’s no such thing as a free lunch — or a free doctor’s visit.

    Call it the grass-is-greener syndrome. Advocates of national health care, acknowledging the flaws in ObamaCare yet despising the current U.S. system that has the best medicines, the best medical equipment and the shortest waiting lists, have turned their eyes lovingly to places like France.

    As City Journal contributing editor Guy Sorman notes, the French would also love to have the low-cost, high-service system some Americans gush about. Unfortunately, they don’t. France’s system isn’t that cheap and is financed by high taxes on labor that have heavy economic consequences.

    Sorman notes that a Frenchman making a monthly salary of 3,000 euros has 350 of them deducted for health insurance. Then the employer throws in an additional 1,200 euros. This raises the cost of labor to prohibitive levels and puts a brake on economic growth. This helps explain why French unemployment hovers around 10%.

    France imposes an additional tax levy to cover the constant deficits that national health insurance runs.

    The French Parliament raises this levy, which applies to all forms of income, every year. Altogether, Sorman writes, “25% of French national income goes toward what’s called Social Security, which includes health care and basic retirement pensions for all.”

    Drugs developed in America at enormous expense do cost less in France, which decides what drugs are to be used and at what prices. American patients in effect subsidize the French, who take the same pills at half the price because American pharmaceutical companies don’t want to lose the French market.

    French taxpayers fund a state health insurer, Assurance Maladie. Assurance Maladie has run in the red since 1989, and this year’s shortfall is expected to be 9.4 billion euros ($13.5 billion) and 15 billion euros in 2010, about 10% of its budget.

    Regardless of the cost, does the French system produce better outcomes? Not always. Infant mortality rates are often cited as a reason socialized medicine and single-payer systems are better than what we have here. But according to Dr. Linda Halderman, a policy adviser in the California State Senate, these comparisons are bogus.

    Official World Health Organization statistics show the U.S. lagging behind France in infant mortality rates — 6.7 per 1,000 live births vs. 3.8 for France. Halderman notes that in the U.S., any infant born that shows any sign of life for any length of time is considered a live birth. In France — in fact, in most of the European Union — any baby born before 26 weeks’ gestation is not considered alive and therefore doesn’t “count” in reported infant mortality rates.

    France reimburses its doctors at a far lower rate than U.S. physicians would accept.

    As David Gratzer, a physician and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, wrote in the summer 2007 issue of City Journal: “In France, the supply of doctors is so limited that during an August 2003 heat wave — when many doctors were on vacation and hospitals were stretched beyond capacity — 15,000 elderly citizens died.”

    After the tragedy, the French parliament released a harshly worded report blaming the deaths on a complex health system, widespread failure among agencies and health services to coordinate efforts, and chronically insufficient care for the elderly.

    It’s hard to imagine that happening here, where hospitals have enough air-conditioned beds and doctors that aren’t on vacation.

    Fact is, most Americans like their health care. There are ways to provide expanded coverage at lower cost, such as pushing individually owned health savings accounts, malpractice reform and allowing insurance to be bought across state lines.

    We needn’t be forced to sacrifice quality for cost. Nor do we need to look to the French for a better solution. They don’t have one.

  26. tellitlikeitis says:

    More government non efficiency.


    Veteran Students Pinched by Aid Delay
    The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is telling university officials nationwide there will be a six- to eight-week delay in processing payments under the new GI bill, citing a massive backlog of applications.

    After five years of active duty in the Army and four days into his second year at the University of Iowa, Drew Mangler is unsure how he will pay his rent.

    Mangler, like roughly 60 other UI students, applied for financial aid for the new Post-9/11 GI Bill. But, to the veterans’ dismay, only three have been processed.

    “I worked all summer, so hopefully, that will cover [rent],” he said. “But I’ll probably have to get another job.”

    The new legislation, which was signed into law this month, includes more benefits than the Veterans Education Assistance Program, which student/veterans relied on in the past — and they can still use for assistance.

    Mangler said he needs the extra benefits the new bill provides, however, because it pays 100 percent of his tuition.

    “The way the original bill worked, we only had a flat rate of $40,000, which doesn’t cover four years of tuition at the UI,” he said.

    In addition, the new program includes a monthly living allowance and book stipend of $1,000 per year.

    But with classes underway, and the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs telling school officials there will be a six- to eight-week delay, most students who signed up for the new bill don’t know when to expect their money.

    On Monday, the Veterans Affairs Web site showed 211,251 veteran applications for financial aid still pending. At this time last year, there were 43,522.

    Veterans began applying for the new bill on May 1, but the schools couldn’t send the requests to the veterans department until July 7.

    Herald “Skip” Kempnich, who handles all of the UI student veterans’ requests for financial aid, said the UI is in better shape than many schools because he sent in applications the first day he was allowed.

    “Some private schools who haven’t reported their tuition yet — who knows when [those vets] are going to get their money,” he said.

    Some schools wait to send in vets’ applications until they receive the students’ credit of eligibility — which shows how long a student was deployed — to check if the student qualifies for the Yellow Ribbon Program, Kempnich said.

    Under the program, Yellow Ribbon schools — which includes some private schools and graduate programs — must offer vets a scholarship for half of their tuition and fees. The veterans department matches the cost.

    But Kempnich doesn’t wait to check vets eligibility for the Yellow Ribbon. Instead, he sends in requests as early as possible, he said.

    “I made sure that [my veterans] at least get the minimum amount,” Kempnich said. “Then, if needed, I upgrade them to a Yellow Ribbon if they’re eligible.”

    Normally, if a UI bill is past due, the student can’t use his or her ID card for charging. But UI Cashier Marty Miller said the university will not penalize the vets this semester for an overdue bill in this case.

    “We’re trying to be as lenient as we can not to penalize students when it’s out of their control,” Miller said.

    Kempnich said regional processing centers for the veterans department are hiring hundreds of new employees to ease the crunch, but that has also created problems.

    “Some are overstaffing, and these new employees need more [supervision],” Kempnich said.

    UI junior Jesse Boland, who also enrolled for the Post-9/11 GI Bill, said he will have to use money from his savings in the meantime

    But he isn’t exactly shocked about the delay.

    “I’ve been in the military for a while, so I’m not totally surprised by the backlog,” he said. “I expected it.”

  27. samiam60 says:

    Government Run anything is bad news.

  28. samiam60 says:

    The refusal by ABC and NBC to run a national ad critical of President Obama’s health care reform plan is raising questions from the group behind the spot — particularly in light of ABC’s health care special aired in prime time last June and hosted at the White House.

    The 33-second ad by the League of American Voters, which features a neurosurgeon who warns that a government-run health care system will lead to the rationing of procedures and medicine, began airing two weeks ago on local affiliates of ABC, NBC, FOX and CBS. On a national level, however, ABC and NBC have refused to run the spot in its present form.

    “It’s a powerful ad,” said Bob Adams, executive director of the League of American Voters, a national nonprofit group with 15,000 members who advocate individual liberty and government accountability. “It tells the truth and it really highlights one of the biggest vulnerabilities and problems with this proposed legislation, which is it rations health care and disproportionately will decimate the quality of health care for seniors.”

    Adams said the advertisement is running on local network affiliates in states like Louisiana, Arkansas, Maine and Pennsylvania. But although CBS has approved the ad for national distribution and talks are ongoing with FOX, NBC has questioned some of the ad’s facts while ABC has labeled it “partisan.”

    “The ABC Television Network has a long-standing policy that we do not sell time for advertising that presents a partisan position on a controversial public issue,” spokeswoman Susan Sewell said in a written statement. “Just to be clear, this is a policy for the entire network, not just ABC News.”

    NBC, meanwhile, said it has not turned down the ad and will reconsider it with some revisions.

    “We have not rejected the ad,” spokeswoman Liz Fischer told FOXNews.com. “We have communicated with the media agency about some factual claims that require additional substantiation. As always, we are happy to reconsider the ad once these issues are addressed.”

    Adams objects to ABC’s assertion that his group’s position is partisan.

    “It’s a position that we would argue a vast majority of Americans stand behind,” he said. “Obviously, it’s a message that ABC and the Obama administration haven’t received yet.”

    Dick Morris, a FOX News political analyst and the League of American Voters’ chief strategist, conceptualized the advertisement and said its purpose was to “refocus” the debate on health care reform.

    “I feel the whole debate on health care reform needed to be refocused on the issue of Medicare,” he told FOXNews.com. “Most of the debate had been on issues of socialized medicine and cost. I felt that the impact of the legislation in cutting the Medicare program and enforcing rationing needed to be addressed.”

    Morris, a onetime advisor to former President Bill Clinton, said he was particularly troubled by ABC’s decision not to air the spot.

    “It’s the ultimate act of chutzpah because ABC is the network that turned itself over completely to Obama for a daylong propaganda fest about health care reform,” he said. “For them to be pious and say they will not accept advertising on health care shuts their viewers out from any possible understanding of both sides of this issue.”

  29. samiam60 says:

    The above mentioned story most likely will not be found on CNN.

  30. samiam60 says:

    CNN is Not Running this Story as I suspected.
    This is nothing new for the left wing news agency.


  31. samiam60 says:

    Anyone who is watching CNN is only getting half the story.

  32. samiam60 says:




  33. Foxwood says:

    Did you say museum or mausoleum?

  34. tellitlikeitis says:

    Bravo! Johnny boy! Bravo!

  35. tellitlikeitis says:


    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

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    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8 (see trends). Seventy-seven percent (77%) now view the President as politically liberal, the highest total to date.

    A Rasmussen video report notes that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s unfavorable ratings have grown to a new high at 64%.

    In New Jersey’s race for Governor, Republican Chris Christie continues to lead incumbent Democrat Jon Corzine.

    .Today, at noon Eastern, Rasmussen Reports will release the latest tracking data on support for the Congressional health care reform legislation. Premium Members can get an advance look at the data.

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter and Facebook.

    Overall, 50% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) now disapprove.

    Thirty-four percent (34%) believe the country is heading in the right direction. That number has remained steady for weeks.

  36. tellitlikeitis says:

    This song is dedicated to Obama care.

  37. tellitlikeitis says:

    Kennedy should have been tried for treason!
    Senator Ted Kennedy cooperated with the KGB, Soviet leaders to undermine Reagan…

    Ted Kennedy was a ‘collaborationist’: Aided KGB for political purposes…

    Human Events reported on December 8, 2003:

    Even long-time Bush watchers were surprised when former President Bush presented an award to Sen. Edward Kennedy (D.-Mass.) at a time when the far-left senator was involved in a full-scale series of attacks on our current President.

    Teddy Kennedy’s bizarre attack on President Bush shocked even some of his supporters. With rhetoric reminiscent of “conspiracy nuts,” Kennedy accused the President of deliberately getting us into an unnecessary war in Iraq, a war that was planned in Texas. Remember that the senator’s brother, Jack, was assassinated in Texas 40 years ago.

    While the tone was hysterical, it was not unusual for Sen. Kennedy to attack an American President and give aid and comfort to our country’s enemies. There are some important reports found in Soviet archives, after the collapse of the Communist dictatorship, that provide an interesting insight into the character of the senior senator from Massachusetts.

    One of the documents, a KGB report to bosses in the Soviet Communist Party Central Committee, revealed that “In 1978, American Sen. Edward Kennedy requested the assistance of the KGB to establish a relationship” between the Soviet apparatus and a firm owned by former Sen. John Tunney (D.-Calif.).

    One of the documents, a KGB report to bosses in the Soviet Communist Party Central Committee, revealed that “In 1978, American Sen. Edward Kennedy requested the assistance of the KGB to establish a relationship” between the Soviet apparatus and a firm owned by former Sen. John Tunney (D.-Calif.). KGB recommended that they be permitted to do this because Tunney’s firm was already connected with a KGB agent in France named David Karr. This document was found by the knowledgeable Russian journalist Yevgenia Albats and published in Moscow’s Izvestia in June 1992.

    Another KGB report to their bosses revealed that on March 5, 1980, John Tunney met with the KGB in Moscow on behalf of Sen. Kennedy. Tunney expressed Kennedy’s opinion that “nonsense about ‘the Soviet military threat’ and Soviet ambitions for military expansion in the Persian Gulf . . . was being fueled by [President Jimmy] Carter, [National Security Advisor Zbigniew] Brzezinski, the Pentagon and the military industrial complex.”

    Kennedy offered to speak out against President Carter on Afghanistan. Shortly thereafter he made public speeches opposing President Carter on this issue. This document was found in KGB archives by Vasiliy Mitrokhin, a courageous KGB officer, who copied documents from the files and then defected to the West. He wrote about this document in a February 2002 paper on Afghanistan that he released through the Cold War International History Project of the Woodrow Wilson Center.

    In May 1983, the KGB again reported to their bosses on a discussion in Moscow with former Sen. John Tunney. Kennedy had instructed Tunney, according to the KGB, to carry a message to Yuri Andropov, the General Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party, expressing Kennedy’s concern about the anti-Soviet activities of President Ronald Reagan. The KGB reported “in Kennedy’s opinion the opposition to Reagan remains weak. Speeches of the President’s opponents are not well-coordinated and not effective enough, and Reagan has the chance to use successful counterpropaganda.” Kennedy offered to “undertake some additional steps to counter the militaristic, policy of Reagan and his campaign of psychological pressure on the American population.” Kennedy asked for a meeting with Andropov for the purpose of “arming himself with the Soviet leader’s explanations of arms control policy so he can use them later for more convincing speeches in the U.S.” He also offered to help get Soviet views on the major U.S. networks and suggested inviting “Elton Rule, ABC chairman of the board, or observers Walter Cronkite or Barbara Walters to Moscow.”

    Tunney also told the KGB that Kennedy was planning to run for President in the 1988 elections. “At that time, he will be 56 years old, and personal problems that have weakened his position will have been resolved [Kennedy quietly settled a divorce suit and soon plans to remarry].” Of course the Russians understood his problem with Chappaquiddick. While Kennedy did not intend to run in 1984, he did not exclude the possibility that the Democratic Party would draft him because “not a single one of the current Democratic hopefuls has a real chance of beating Reagan.”

    This document was first discovered in the Soviet archives by London Times reporter Tim Sebastian and a report on it was published in that newspaper in February 1992.

    Sen. Kennedy played a major role during the 1970s in Grafting the restrictions that made it so difficult for the FBI and CIA to do the job of protecting the American people. One of the most pernicious restrictions was the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) passed in 1978. President Franklin Roosevelt, in 1940, had ordered the FBI to wiretap Nazis and Communists because they were operating in the United States on behalf of hostile foreign powers. Every President after him used the inherent power of the President to order wiretapping for national security purposes.

    Kennedy told the Senate Intelligence Committee in 1976 that “For the last five years, I and others in the Senate have labored unsuccessfully to place some meaningful statutory restrictions on the so-called inherent power of the Executive to engage in surveillance.” When Congress discussed legislation to require a court warrant to wiretap enemy agents and terrorists, Kennedy and the ACLU began a campaign to raise the barriers as high as possible. Kennedy introduced the concept in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Bill that required evidence that someone was providing classified information to a foreign intelligence service. Someone who “only” had a clandestine relationship with a foreign intelligence officer and carried out covert influence operations for a foreign power could not be wiretapped. When we see the KGB reports we can understand why Kennedy would want this provision in the law. Kennedy was not a KGB agent. He also was not “a useful idiot” who was used by the KGB without understanding what he was doing. Kennedy was a collaborationist. He aided the KGB for his own political purposes.

  38. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good riddance to commie Kennedy! May his soul burn in hell.

  39. Foxwood says:

    There is nothing on the news but Kennedy. I hope Glenn comes on.

  40. samiam60 says:

    S E P T E M B E T 10TH 2001

    Most of the details behind a White House plan to grab oversight authority over detainee interrogations still need to be ironed out, but critics already are questioning the logic behind the move to yank responsibility from the CIA and hand it to a potentially political and bureaucratic unit.

    The changing landscape for how the United States handles terrorism suspects is unmistakable.

    Under task force recommendations that President Obama intends to follow, a new High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group will be housed in the FBI and subject to oversight from the White House-based National Security Council.

    The head of the unit, while not named, reportedly will be an FBI official and this official, the White House says, will report directly to FBI Director Robert Mueller.

    Attorney David Rivkin, a former Justice Department official and frequent critic of the reversal of CIA practices, said the shift brings the fight against terrorism “full circle” to a time when it was treated largely as a criminal crackdown.

    “This is a full return to Sept. 10 mentality,” he said.

    Rivkin argued that since the FBI’s focus is on collecting evidence for criminal prosecutions, not intelligence gathering, it is ill-suited to conduct these interrogations. He added that the FBI is lacking the kind of contacts with foreign intelligence agencies the CIA maintains.

    But the administration insists that the new unit will comprise interrogators from several agencies, including the CIA, and will continue to focus primarily on “intelligence gathering.” It will not be a de facto FBI operation, officials say, and the shift will not be a coup against the CIA.

    “The High Value Detainee Interrogation Group (HIG) is designed to be a multi-agency group, not a sub-unit of the FBI or the Justice Department,” Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said in a statement. “Thus, while the HIG will be housed administratively within the National Security Branch of the FBI, the group will be staffed by elements of the intelligence community, and will receive policy guidance and oversight from the National Security Council.”

    White House spokesman Bill Burton said Thursday that the president approved the new group because he considered it the “best way to take down some of the barriers to sharing some of the most important information.”

    But with barriers coming down, critics suggest operations could be hampered by a too-many-cooks kind of hierarchy and put the White House in a position of micro-managing the process.

    “Once you have direct knowledge of day-to-day activities coming into a central location near or at the White House, there’s a tendency, almost a temptation, to meddle in actual field activities, such as LBJ calling in to commanders in rice paddies in Vietnam what he wants to have done that day,” said Tony Shaffer, a former Army intelligence officer who conducted interrogations in Afghanistan, referring to President Lyndon Johnson’s tactics to manage the Vietnam War.

    “The National Security Council staff doesn’t have, in my view, the expertise to be in the interrogation business,” said former National Security Adviser Richard Allen. “And then, of course, there are the issues of the FBI, how it works and has traditionally worked with the CIA — not all that well, as we know.”

    Senior administration officials said earlier in the week that the CIA will still be a “key player,” and that the White House will not be involved in any “tactical decisions.”

    But a lot of questions remain unanswered: Who will conduct the interrogations? Who will lead the unit? Where will the questioning take place?

    What is known about the new unit is mostly limited to the details provided in the official task force recommendations. The task force says the specialized unit will exist to “coordinate the deployment of mobile teams” of interrogators and other experts to conduct interrogations of high-value terrorists. The goal is to use that information to prevent terrorist attacks.

    Officials said no decision has been made on a director. They said the specific interrogators will be decided on a “case-by-case” basis. And while it’s still being determined where the interrogations will take place, the controversial practice of rendition — where prisoners are transferred to foreign governments — will continue, they said.

    On this subject, Rivkin said one possible outcome of the new structure is that the administration would use rendition more and more. Officials, though, said the administration will make sure it has assurances that prisoners sent to other countries through this process “will not be tortured.”

    To some, the decision to create the new unit is just the latest chapter in the systematic dismantling of CIA authority and morale.

    Following the announcement of the new unit and the decision by Attorney General Eric Holder to probe alleged prisoner abuse under the Bush administration, former Vice President Dick Cheney blasted both decisions. He said in a statement that they serve “as a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this administration’s ability to be responsible for our nation’s security.”

    CIA Director Leon Panetta has expressed frustration at the politically charged environment. But the CIA and administration have dismissed speculation that he could be on the way out.

    CIA spokesman George Little on Thursday brushed off the notion that the controversy and changing landscape is hitting home for CIA personnel.

    “The CIA is no stranger to controversy. It comes with the territory and always has. Frankly, most people shrug it off and devote themselves to the essential work of protecting the nation. This agency is America’s first line of defense overseas, and it’s that mission that drives our officers — not the latest headlines in Washington,” he said.

  41. samiam60 says:

    “This is a full return to Sept. 10 mentality”

  42. samiam60 says:

    This President is going to get alot of Americans Killed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  44. karmahd says:

    Next big thing!! Obamas private army, might not have guns, might not have tanks, but they will be organized and indoctrinated to carry out the message of the state! Beck today, a half a trillion dollars to Ameracore!!! My question, FOR WHAT!!!

  45. karmahd says:

    The largest of AmeriCorps programs, AmeriCorps State and National provides funds to local and national organizations and agencies committed to using national service to address critical community needs in education, public safety, health and the environment

  46. Foxwood says:

    We’re going to wake up one morning and find these people in the street and our government changed if this country doesn’t wake up, Karma.

  47. Foxwood says:

    $500,000,000 have been spent on Americorp. I bet they will have guns, Karma.

  48. Foxwood says:

    This indoctrination in our schools has been the start of this. MHO

  49. karmahd says:

    Fox, I just don’t know a lot of people are getting real worked up!! I see this as part of the big picture, and the start of the gun grab and marshal law. Mark my words, this is what this administration wants!!

  50. karmahd says:

    OK Beck just corrected himself, it is a half million, Woooops!!

  51. Foxwood says:

    I missed that Karma. A half a trillion is a lot of money. I still think they will be armed tho.

  52. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma said. I see this as part of the big picture, and the start of the gun grab and marshal law. Mark my words, this is what this administration wants!!

    Martial law absolutely! All bets are off then. The constitution gets shredded and we have a dictatorship.

  53. Foxwood says:

    Did you check out the link, Tellit?

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  55. tellitlikeitis says:

    Yes Foxwood, That was good.

  56. karmahd says:

    Off for awhile, hide your ammo guys, or start buying it LOL. That is if you can find it!!

  57. Foxwood says:

    I got my sling shot and rocks Karma.

  58. Foxwood says:

    I am thinking about taking up archery.

  59. Foxwood says:

    So true, so true…

  60. Foxwood says:

    Eat your heart out Eric Clapner (Jasolin Elders)…

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  62. samiam60 says:

    Something tells me we have not seen anything yet.

  63. samhenry says:

    Hi Sami – Fox – Tellit

    Well, FOX , you had better take up bow and arrow. That is all that will be left either through people arming themselves or the government disarming them. The bottom line here is the food will be getting more expensive thanks to cap and trade so best be on the lookout for the beginning of the bow and arrow season.

  64. samhenry says:

    Tellit, do you have a source for your article:

    “Kennedy should have been tried for treason!”

  65. Foxwood says:

    Yesterday —– Today
    Himmler —– Zek Emanuel

  66. Foxwood says:

    America is waking up.
    Obutthole, “I got my mojo workin’, but it just don’t work on you”.

  67. Foxwood says:

    Good evening Sam and Sam and Tellit.

  68. samiam60 says:

    There are 5 more vids in the series on Himmler at utube. I don’t want to post them all on here. It is striking the similarities between Himmler and Emanuel.
    Foxwood, were gonna need a bigger Cannon.

  69. samiam60 says:

    Scenes from Air Force One over New York

  70. tellitlikeitis says:

    Here you go samhenry. Here is the link you are looking for.

  71. LisaInTX says:

    Boy do I need work and a teleprompter!!!! hahahaaa….

  72. Foxwood says:

    Will this work?

  73. Foxwood says:

    Sami, I’m all for a good street fight…

  74. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lisa!!! You go girl!!! Great Videos!!!Right on!!! You nailed it!!! Congratulations!!!

  75. karmahd says:

    Gotta watch this!

  76. Foxwood says:

    Lisa, I miss your video the first time. I don’t cry, but I do tear up. I will pray with you. I am a Constitutionalists. I believe in the original intent of the founding fathers. Tellit said he believe in term limits for Congress. I do too. Red Ted is a prime example. Thank you for the vid. It is from the heart and on the mark.

  77. Foxwood says:

    Government, Karma, is supposed to be limited by the Constitution. Commie lib followers don’t see this. Commie lib leaders hope they can pass these bills.

    George Mason: “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

    James Madison: “Americans have the advantage of being armed — unlike the citizens of other countries where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

  78. Foxwood says:

    I’m off to bed guys and gals.

  79. karmahd says:

    Wow Lisa, powerful videos!! The passion, and the tone were great, I think I saw VF jump up on the couch on the first one??

    I will send more in email, well done!!!

  80. karmahd says:

    Fox I know your probably in bed, but about a month ago I started to shop for a compound bow, unfortunately due to other issues with my work or lack there of, I will have to put the purchase off in lieu of paying my mortgage!! But I will get one as soon as I can!!

  81. tellitlikeitis says:

    Another good vid !! Karma!!

  82. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good night all! tellit out!

  83. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit, Foxwood, Karma
    Thank you very kindly sirs for the good words. :-}

    I hope to not be such a cry baby next time I do this, but I was very upset as all could see. (I still have not heard from my son, but no news is good news at this point)

    I also have been given an idea that might help me focus and not ‘wander’ off topic, so I shall try that next time.

    Thanks again for your support. I shall strive to get this stuff figured out…..and improve. ;-}

  84. LisaInTX says:

    LOL…that was VF’s Sister “Precious” that jumped up on that couch……I had to lock brother ‘Cubby” the Manx in the bathroom as he was a total terror during filming…. maybe he’ll be in the next one…lol…IF he behaves his rotten little spoiled self ;-P

  85. VotingFemale says:

    Lisa, your videos are powerful, very moving, and obviously from the heart, dear.

    your Eric Holder SHOULD be STOPPED! brought tears to my eyes…

  86. VotingFemale says:




    yooo HOOO!!!!

    Good Morning to the Early Morning Conservative Bloggers!!!

  87. Foxwood says:

    Thought I’d do something big this morning. Better back up just a bit. Sieg Heil!

  88. samhenry says:

    Hey VF, I’ve been pinned down by friendly fire on the “friends” side of the VF universe.

  89. samhenry says:


    Please remember to include citation in anything you post that is quoted from another source.

    Dogs get bogged down retrieving this info. They will just have to come back to you for the info. We have no way of knowing sources short of mind reading capabilities. THANKS – WOOF

  90. Foxwood says:

    Yeah, SamH, sorry about the car. It’s insured, right?

  91. Foxwood says:

    Off to the showers. I have to wash off the fallout.

  92. samhenry says:

    Oh, that wasn’t my smart car that was crushed – my smart car is a VW. I only had brake replacement issues “so far.” Thanks for the concern. You are a gracious FOX with lots of class – especially if you wait to fire the cannon until 9:00. My parents always taught me never to call anyone before 9:00 AM – 12 on weekends. LOL

  93. samhenry says:

    DOG off to a little more rack time. I’ll use my bunk on board the great ship VF.

  94. VotingFemale says:

    too funny Foxwood!

    all play and no work makes Fox a sleepy head! lol

  95. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morninng Everyone! Here is a Senator that gets it.


    Inhofe slams health reform

    By Ellis Goodwin

    Staff Writer

    At a town hall meeting Wednesday Sen. Jim Inhofe told Chickasha residents he does not need to read the 1,000 page health care reform bill, he will simply vote against it.

    “I don’t have to read it, or know what’s in it. I’m going to oppose it anyways,” he said.

    Inhofe said public opinion and information provided by news media have helped him become a staunch non-supporter of the bill. He said he would prefer waiting until after mid-term elections to enact reforms. He did not say nothing should be done. He simply feels that a topic as important as healthcare should not be rushed through the Senate or House of Representatives.

    City Council Member Hank Ross agreed with Inhofe. Ross owns a medical care company in Chickasha. He said he does not believe the government would be efficient in providing care and would like to see reforms happen at a slower pace.

    “I personally think Obama has over reached,” Ross said. “I think we need to treat this with kid gloves and do it right.”

    Inhofe also spoke about the diminishing military budget and the closing of the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center, but healthcare was the hot button subject.

    Inhofe took the opportunity to blame democrats for a bevy of issues. He lashed out at democrats for overtaking the government and spending billions of dollars on unpopular packages. He said government is becoming too big and overreaching its boundaries.

    “People are not buying these concepts that are completely foreign to America,” Inhofe said. “We’re almost reaching a revolution in this country.”

    Many in the meeting agreed and were vocal about their disdain for the current climate in Washington.

    “No more compromise,” Chickasha resident Ed Hicks said. “We’re losing our country.”

    Inhofe’s town hall meeting was much like others happening during the Senate’s recess. Except there was no dissent, just concerns about change and what is happening in Washington. Health care reform was the main topic of discussion, but some voiced their worries that the Cap and Trade bill would hurt local oil producers. Others were worried about their Second Amendment right and their ability to own and carry firearms.

    Inhofe tried to squelch the concerns, but until Republicans take control of at least one branch of the government it will be an uphill battle. He said he will do anything he can to keep fighting and promote the wants and needs of his constituents when he returns to Washington next month.

  96. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lisa, Don’t worry about crying. We shaould all be crying as we watch our country go down the drain and our see our childrens future dissapear.

  97. m2 says:

    morning VF and tellit!

    good for Inhofe.

    Check out this guy… I have to say I clicked on the picture b/c he’s a looker… and wanted to see what he was about… Marco Rubio?


  98. Foxwood says:

    Morning Tellit, SamH, VF… Where’s Sami? Hope that wasn’t his car…

  99. tellitlikeitis says:

    Real US unemployment rate at 16 pct: Fed official


    The real US unemployment rate is 16 percent if persons who have dropped out of the labor pool and those working less than they would like are counted, a Federal Reserve official said Wednesday.
    “If one considers the people who would like a job but have stopped looking — so-called discouraged workers — and those who are working fewer hours than they want, the unemployment rate would move from the official 9.4 percent to 16 percent, said Atlanta Fed chief Dennis Lockhart.

    He underscored that he was expressing his own views, which did “do not necessarily reflect those of my colleagues on the Federal Open Market Committee,” the policy-setting body of the central bank.

    Lockhart pointed out in a speech to a chamber of commerce in Chattanooga, Tennessee that those two categories of people are not taken into account in the Labor Department’s monthly report on the unemployment rate. The official July jobless rate was 9.4 percent.

    Lockhart, who heads the Atlanta, Georgia, division of the Fed, is the first central bank official to acknowledge the depth of unemployment amid the worst US recession since the Great Depression.

    Lockhart said the US economy was improving but “still fragile,” and the beginning stages of a sluggish recovery were underway.

    “My forecast for a slow recovery implies a protracted period of high unemployment,” he said, adding that it would be difficult to stimulate jobs through additional public spending.

    “Further fiscal stimulus has been mentioned, but the full effects of the first stimulus package are not yet clear, and the concern over adding to the federal deficit and the resulting national debt is warranted,” he said.

    President Barack Obama’s administration has resisted calls for more public spending, arguing that the 787-billion-dollar stimulus passed in February needs time to work its way through the economy.

    Lockhart noted that construction and manufacturing had been particularly hard hit in the recession that began in December 2007 and predicted some jobs were gone for good.

    Prior to the recession, he said, construction and manufacturing combined accounted for slightly more than 15 percent of employment. But during the recession, their job losses made up more than 40 percent of all US job losses.

    “In my view, it is unlikely that we will see a return of jobs lost in certain sectors, such as manufacturing,” he said.

    “In a similar vein, the recession has been so deep in construction that a reallocation of workers is likely to happen — even if not permanent.”

    Payroll employment has fallen by 6.7 million since the recession began.

  100. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Foxwood and m2.

  101. tellitlikeitis says:


    Big Beck: Goes over 3 million viewers, beats O’Reilly in demo: Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, August 26, 2009

    Posted on 27 August 2009 by Robert Seidman

    Though a little scandal might alienate advertisers, it’s pure ratings gold. Last night Glenn Beck had over 3 million viewers at 5pm, second only to O’Reilly for the night. But, Beck had more 25-54 viewers than O’Reilly (888K to 876K). I don’t watch or really even care about the cable news wars, but still…wow. Even though Beck airs before primetime, when there are fewer people watching TV, he had the most 25-54 viewers in the cable news world for the night.

  102. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning VF, M2, SamH, Tellit, and Fox.
    Will be back here in a few minuets.

  103. m2 says:

    Glenn would probably be top rated if they move him to prime..

  104. m2 says:

    did you guys see SamHenry’s blog yesterday? It will make you laugh a little:


  105. tellitlikeitis says:

    Cash for Clunkers Rebate is Taxable Income, Including Penalties
    Share: by Tina Kells | August 25, 2009 at 05:02 pm

    Remember that awesome $4500 Cash for Clunkers rebate? Would you think it was so awesome if you knew that your Cash for Clunkers rebate grant was taxable income? Do you think dealerships would have been so quick to push it on you if they knew that it was them (but not you, phew!!) who would be taxed?

    It seems that the dealerships that took advantage of the Cash for Clunkers rebate were shocked to learn that the amount they were credited counts as taxable income. Not only is the Cash for Clunkers rebate taxable income for dealerships, but if they are late paying what they owe they will be subject to standard interest and/or penalties.

    So suddenly that Cash for Clunkers rebate that didn’t really put any cash in the bank for retailers will actually be taking money from them! How typical of government to give with one hand but take with the other… on the Cash for Clunkers front the dealerships really get a raw deal.

    The only winners in the Cash for Clunkers deal seem to be the automakers, with the government as a close second. The automakers clear their inventory and the government doesn’t lose any taxes. However, both retailers and consumers get the shaft. Retailers have to pay tax on money they never took in, and consumers take on more debt to trade in their old clunkers for shiny new vehicles.

  106. m2 says:

    Jonah Goldberg’s liberal fascism blog http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/

    Let’s see. Off the top of my head, in the first six months of Obama’s presidency we’ve seen corporatism and “state capitalism” run amok, in the government takeover of two car companies and numerous banks. Labor unions have become increasingly indistinguishable from the government and the party that controls it. Herbert Croly and the Progressives have once again been rehabilitated as founding fathers of the New Age. The entire liberal intellectual class is convinced that this the time for a new New Deal. Critics of statism are vilified by liberal elites as racists and fascists. (And those who refuse to get with the Gorian program are guilty of “treason against the planet”). When out of power, liberals lionized free speech and celebrated dissent as the highest form of patriotism. Now, they label dissent “un-American” and the president insists he doesn’t want to hear a lot of talking from anyone who disagrees with him. While the stench of eugenics and euthanasia do not quite sting the nostrils yet, the odor is detectable and the liberal impulse for controlling the lives of others has been re-exposed.

    Indeed, our own messianic president, who insists that we can create a Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, also apparently believes that “we are God’s partners in matters of life and death” and that religious organizations that are true to their calling should rally behind a united front to expand the scope and role of government. When the head of state says such things, it is hard not to be reminded of the Progressive concept of the God State, a major theme of Liberal Fascism. The “State is the actually existing, realized moral life . . . The divine idea as it exists on earth,” Hegel declared in The Philosophy of History. The State, according to Hegel, was the “march of God on earth.” The progressives agreed. Richard Ely, the founding father of progressive economics, proclaimed “God works through the State in carrying out His purposes more universally than through any other institution.”

  107. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Tellit! M2! Samiam!

    as usual you are doing a great job Tellit with your finds. Thanks for adding the link to the article… and feel free to add your commentary in your article introduction.

  108. VotingFemale says:

    M2, what is the link to that blog post???

    I can edit your comment and add the link to it…

    m2 says

    Jonah Goldberg’s liberal fascism blog:

  109. VotingFemale says:

    I haven’t read Jonah Goldberg’s blog… but I know him well from his visits on the Glenn Beck Program and took much of what he wrote about in mind for some anti-obama iReports I wrote last summer.

  110. m2 says:

    here it is, http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/

    my kid has been sick today… ah my…
    Not looking forward to the day so much anymore…

  111. m2 says:

    yes he also write’s this:

    ….Indeed, while I don’t think it is remotely right or fair to call Obama
    Enhanced Coverage Linking Obama a crypto-Nazi (if by that you mean to say he’s a would-be Hitler), the real problem with all of this loose Nazi talk is that it slanders the American people. Daniel Jonah Goldhagen may have overstated his case in Hitler’s Willing Executioners, but he was certainly right that the German people were Hitler’s willing enablers. The overwhelming majority of the American people — in their history, culture, bones, hearts, souls, DNA, and carbon molecules — are not like that. That goes for American liberals and leftists too. The extent and depth of liberalism’s obtuseness on the subject of fascism (and much else) stews my bowels, but American liberals are still Americans, and Americans will not goose-step behind a Hitler, period.

    As I make clear in Liberal Fascism, the obvious and pressing threat is not from a Hitlerite-Orwellian dictatorship but from a Huxleyan namby-pamby mommy state. That sort of system could seduce Americans into becoming chestless subjects of the State in exchange for bottomless self-gratification and liberation from the necessity of adult decision-making. Yes, there’s a danger that such a society could then be susceptible to some darker vision that lionizes the lost manhood of a half-forgotten past. But, by that point, this would be America in name only, if even that (“U.N. District 12” has a nice ring to it).


  112. VotingFemale says:

    anyone see the vid on Beck showing Farakan calling Obama the Messiah? and preaching an overthrow of the country?

    any leads on that vid on youtube?

  113. m2 says:

    is this recent?

    and “overthrow” would fall in line with this period of Anarchy whereby he makes it possible to institute his own Government form!

    VF says: anyone see the vid on Beck showing Farakan calling Obama the Messiah? and preaching an overthrow of the country?

    any leads on that vid on youtube?

  114. VotingFemale says:

    Goldberg’s prose are well peppered with words the average non-intellectual would not understand…

    he needs to write to the audience which needs to understand all this… not at such an intellectual level.

    I could write like that and many people would go… duhhhh, what did she say?

  115. VotingFemale says:

    You should have seen that farakan vid clip… it is damning

  116. m2 says:

    hi fox and sam,

    more from the LF blog:

    The Nazis did not rise to power on the promise of bringing war and violence. They just didn’t. They rose to power by promising national restoration, peace, pride, dignity, unity and generous social welfare programs among other things including, of course, scapegoating Jews. People forget how Hitler successfully fashioned himself a champion of peace for quite a while. Limbaugh’s counter-attack on liberals, specifically Pelosi, is exactly that, a counter-attack. He was saying that if liberals are going to call conservatives Nazis for opposing nationalized healthcare maybe they should at least account for the fact that Nazis agreed with them on the issue, not conservatives. If liberals want to have a fight over who is closer to fascism, I see no reason why conservatives should cower from that argument, particularly since the facts are on our side. But I reject entirely the idea that liberals today are literally Nazi-like, particularly if we are going to define Nazism by what “they were known for.” Liberals don’t want to invade Poland or round up Jews.

  117. VotingFemale says:

    Just found the vid clip…

  118. Foxwood says:

    I will not go much on the blog today. Corporate luncheon. I hate those things. I’ll miss Rush. Guess I’ll have to get the replay online at 24/7.

  119. m2 says:

    Oh yeah, I remember that creepy video… ugh.

  120. m2 says:

    yes, you are right VF… trouble is, I read authors like this and AT, the American Thinker authors are really well-written.

    I’ve always enjoyed such prose..

  121. m2 says:

    But I think that’s why Glenn Beck is so much more popular, he makes all this intellect-talk into common language… so does Rush, btw.

  122. VotingFemale says:

    M2, well… this is way beyond ‘liberals’

    I see the DEM party as having been infected with a core Radical Communist network… I can only imagine the shock of many everyday centrist DEM citizens realizing their party has, overnight, been morphed into a full blown Socialist/Communist Leadership.

    This is why I steadfastly separate normal DEMs from abnormal members of the DEM party… in other words, the Socialists/Communists who have stolen the Party. For all I know they also infiltrated the GOP to water it down so it would not stand in its way.

    John McCain needs to grow some balls…
    Sarah Palin already has the grit and purity of focus…

    These Socialist Bastards are a danger to all Americans, thus the world itself.

  123. VotingFemale says:

    Rush has never been more needed as he is today.

    With a GOP congress and GOP administration his voice was not really all that powerful.

    Rush, I see as a war time general not a peace time general.

    and yes, Beck puts it into citizen speak and does it well.

    m2 says

    But I think that’s why Glenn Beck is so much more popular, he makes all this intellect-talk into common language… so does Rush, btw.

  124. m2 says:

    I do think they may have infiltrated the GOP. And I agree with you whole-heartedly. As Jonah says, now Union and ACORN-type organizations (Apollo who wrote the Stimulus) is virtually indistinguishable from this Administration.

    Most of the organizations serve as cover for Communist ideals.

    The DEM party was totally hijacked, but it’s there fault too for selling out to the highest payer… billionaires like Soros make the Fringe Leftism possible.

  125. m2 says:

    another component is the Media.

    Our media has broken down. It’s terrible.

    So the media, billionaire kooks and DEM’s hungry for power, and the radicals that are now running the show.


  126. m2 says:

    Like Bill Ayers and others like him say, ‘this has been planned for decades’…

    I even heard a son of a Communist family on Rush’s show one day. His parents had Communist meetings in his house bi-weekly… he heard it all.. and he says that what we see today is his parents and Communist greatest dreams realized for America.

  127. tellitlikeitis says:

    Does this sound familiar?


    The Communist ManifestoKarl Marx and Friedrich Engels

    Summary The Communist Manifesto reflects an attempt to explain the goals of Communism, as well as the theory underlying this movement. It argues that class struggles, or the exploitation of one class by another, are the motivating force behind all historical developments. Class relationships are defined by an era’s means of production. However, eventually these relationships cease to be compatible with the developing forces of production. At this point, a revolution occurs and a new class emerges as the ruling one. This process represents the “march of history” as driven by larger economic forces.

    Modern Industrial society in specific is characterized by class conflict between the bourgeoisie and proletariat. However, the productive forces of capitalism are quickly ceasing to be compatible with this exploitative relationship. Thus, the proletariat will lead a revolution. However, this revolution will be of a different character than all previous ones: previous revolutions simply reallocated property in favor of the new ruling class. However, by the nature of their class, the members of the proletariat have no way of appropriating property. Therefore, when they obtain control they will have to destroy all ownership of private property, and classes themselves will disappear.

    The Manifesto argues that this development is inevitable, and that capitalism is inherently unstable. The Communists intend to promote this revolution, and will promote the parties and associations that are moving history towards its natural conclusion. They argue that the elimination of social classes cannot come about through reforms or changes in government. Rather, a revolution will be required.

    The Communist Manifesto has four sections. In the first section, it discusses the Communists’ theory of history and the relationship between proletarians and bourgeoisie. The second section explains the relationship between the Communists and the proletarians. The third section addresses the flaws in other, previous socialist literature. The final section discusses the relationship between the Communists and other parties.

  128. m2 says:

    tellit, that’s familiar…
    and the die hard cult of personality Obama supporters want that because they apparently have no grasp on history or what other countries who’ve instituted communism have struggled with.

    I don’t know…

    Well guys, Litte E is really sick. I got to go, have a good day!

  129. VotingFemale says:

    M2, the country is in danger… and this infection has been creeping in for decades…

    “community organizing”

    and I see Obama and his band of communists as being so bold as to not care what people think as a majority.

    that is very possibility their Achilles Heel… their arrogance and audacity.

    They counted on apathy of the public …they underestimated the sleeping power of the core American spirit and love of what this country really stands for.

    That the Communist/Socialists try to marginalize these Americans is akin to Hitler and his creeping marginalization of the Jews.

    But we are the majority and how does a minority group marginalize the majority? only if the majority rolls over and gives up.

    I see the majority who is under attack fighting back… stronger and stronger.

    This very well may give birth to a new political party… the Tea Party… who no longer can count on the GOP to do what they are supposed to be doing.

    John McCain lost the election because he was too namby pamby… not so with Sarah Palin.

    That is why they have attacked and smeared her. They only do that with those they fear… and they were not afraid of McCain.

    McCain wimped out… perhaps he is a Manchurian Candidate.

  130. samiam60 says:

    The Line has been drawn in the sand.

    Town Hall meetings, Tea Parties, Conservative blog posts, talk radio, Rush, Beck, Hannity and on and on. It is quite clear to all with eyes to see and ears to hear where we are heading. Well Obama do an about face? Hell No !

    I fear this is what we may soon see coming to a neighbor hood near you and me:

  131. samiam60 says:

    For God and Country.

  132. samiam60 says:

    As Obama’s bus loads of Union Thugs move in on the Town Hall meetings we may well see the Flash Point of the Beginning of what we all dread in America.

  133. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam, indeed, the line has been drawn in the sand… and the socialists have prepared for a violent response that will cut the legs from under their opposition.

    This is why I and Glenn Beck and many many others are urging and warning…

    Do Not Take The Violent Path! It will hurt us.

    This is a war of thoughts and words and legal behavior under the First Amendment.

    If I learned of some idiot planning any sort of violence I would turn them in before they could act.

    Violence is NOT THE ANSWER

    the LAST thing this country needs is Civil War II

  134. VotingFemale says:

    these bastards can be defeated with VOTES and THOUGHTS and VOICES and LAWFUL ACTION and CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZING at the GRASS ROOTS LEVEL.

    these things are what frightens the Communist/Socialist inflitrators the most… because these things they can not defend against and will push them back from leadership of the country.

    The American Civil War was the singular worst thing that ever happened to this country… and the scars from it still exist today.

  135. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is just my theory but you have to wonder why the dems are still so brazen and bold even with all this push back. It makes me believe that they are intentionally fanny the flames of turmoil,dissent, and division to create a public insurrection that would eventually result in martial law being imposed. I gurantee they have something nefarious up their sleeves.

  136. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, I agree put if the Dems keep pushing it may be unavoidable.

  137. samiam60 says:

    VF I agree whole heartedly and violence is the last thing I would ever want to see, so don’t turn me in just yet. I agree with Tellit that this Government is trying to push the American People into a Rebellion for the purpose of Marshal Law.

  138. samiam60 says:

    Lest we forget:

  139. VotingFemale says:

    tellit… LisainTX is a registered DEM and I was a registered DEM, SamHenry was a registered DEM who voted for Obama.

    People need to understand… moderate DEMs are helping …and more of them are stepping across the line and standing with the Opponents of Obama and his band of Socialists/Communists.

    How can I explain that this is not purely a DEM problem we are dealing with?

    This is a Socialist/Communist problem… and those bastards hijacked what was a moderate DEM party.

    I do not attack “DEMs”, I Attack Socialists and Communists within the DEM party and do verbal battle with their brainwashed converts… the fringe leftist sheep.

  140. tellitlikeitis says:

    Violence is always the last resort after all resonable avenues have failed. I hope it doesn’t come down to that because that is what they want.

  141. samiam60 says:

    When the appointed Czar’s carry out their acts against America who then will our words affect?

  142. karmahd says:

    Morning Conservative Bloggers, Karma is moving slowly today up way too late, I see the fight continues to OUT, the BS lies of the Obama administration and there grass weeds group of anarchistic mindless followers.

    Facts and Logic, is all that is needed, Energy and persistence conquer all things Benjamin Franklin

  143. VotingFemale says:

    I have always felt that Bush Jr was the wrong man for the GOP to nominate for President…

    thus the Bush Presidency hurt conservative americans…

    The same exact thing can be said about Obama and the damage he is doing to the DEM party.

    Americans are not a majority of radicals on either the left or the right…

    and in the main, we go conservative with a president…

    I have always believed that a party should not have a majority in congress while that party has the executive branch… a lack of checks and balances leads to political excess and ends up hurting the majority party in the long run.

    Bush has a GOP congress for six years… and the excesses of the GOP during those six years lead to the election of Obama.

    Think about it…

    Now? The same thing is happening with the DEM party.

    Obama’s excesses will lead to serious damage to the DEM party and usher in a change of majority again.

    Obama needs to be offset by a GOP majority Congress to keep him under control.

  144. VotingFemale says:

    and millions of persistent and loud voices of those who Oppose Communization/Socialization of America.

    Let the Citizens Speak!

    In a war of facts and logic, the Socialist leaders of the brainwashed nutroots will wither.

    karmahd says

    Morning Conservative Bloggers, Karma is moving slowly today up way too late, I see the fight continues to OUT, the BS lies of the Obama administration and there grass weeds group of anarchistic mindless followers.

    Facts and Logic, is all that is needed, Energy and persistence conquer all things Benjamin Franklin

  145. VotingFemale says:

    MOONBAT-ness is a mental disorder

  146. karmahd says:

    Yes VF that is correct, Pelosi’s numbers just came out and she has a 30% favorability rating, with 64% disapprove.

  147. karmahd says:

    Pelosi will be the target of my next post, and some of the stupid crap she is trying to shove down the citizens of this great nation, by the way Good Morning everyone

  148. VotingFemale says:

    who then will our words affect?The Majority of US Voters…

    The Push Back against the Socialists at their Town Halls is not going to change the Socialists… it is changing the masses understanding of what is going on and just how many people are standing up to them and their planned destruction of America as we know it.

    This is a thinking war… a war of wills.
    No longer can folks ignore politics… for it will surely bite them in the ass if they do.

    Talk to people… ask them what they think… dont preach as I am doing now. I only do that at this moment in time because no one on this comment log needs to be convinced of the dangers of Obama and his socialist thug organizations.

    samiam60 says
    When the appointed Czar’s carry out their acts against America who then will our words affect?

  149. tellitlikeitis says:

    I hate to sound like there is a conspiricy but I believe that the Dems surely most know what damage they are inflicting upon themselves. Many were around during the Clinton years and must remeber the schellacking they took from the Gingrich revolution. I believe there is something going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about yet. Why else would they be so brazen and so in your face to the American people. This is just a theory.

  150. tellitlikeitis says:

    One word of encourgement. I know many people that are paying attention to what is going on now. These are people that you wouldn’t think would care. They are not as vocal about it as we are but they are informed and fully aware of what is happening to this country.

  151. karmahd says:

    Tellit, they do this because they are pissed off about the Bush years, which were not to kind to them, and they are drunk with power. The people who have been sleeping, basically lazy over the last 25 years are now standing up, the democrats and there actions have unified the Republican party, when just 5 short months ago the death of the party was being seriously discussed. This is what happens when you have raving narcissists in power, they see and think they can do no wrong!! Woops, the people are awake, and the health care plan will not get passed if it does without the assistance of the republican party, they will all be gone 2010. I will not let that slip by, and will blog every day to get that message out. Everyone has to do there part if they really care!

  152. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit, just who are the “DEMs?”

  153. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, Dems= Democrats. I just abbreviated it.

  154. karmahd says:

    Just ask why is this health care so important to Obama when the country is in the great recession?? Reason, it will expand government, it will increase unions, it will create positions for his weed movement, it will spread the cancer of rampant government!! Tea party, blog, comment, do what you can, that is what we are seeing, and it has taken the administration by surprise, they thought the MOLE would win!!

  155. karmahd says:

    I see this as an ideology issue that transcends party lines, there are not too many statesmen in government these days, and the republicans are responsible for running up the deficit, Obama just threw gas on the fire and has a total disregard for the nations core beliefs, he is smart he is dangerous, the pen is mightier than the sword in this case, and this is working!!

  156. VotingFemale says:

    although this Sexist Fucker of a FOX News announcer takes a cheap shot at Palin… (I will find out his name and blog on his mangy ASS)

    This video discusses sub-categorizes of DEMs; Liberal DEMs and Conservative DEMs.

    Who are “DEMs?” there are all flavors… from the COMMUNISTS in the DEM party to Rush Listening Conservative DEMs.

  157. samiam60 says:

    Question ? Did Ben Franklin make this statement before or after signing the Declaration of Independence?

    Facts and Logic, is all that is needed, Energy and persistence conquer all things Benjamin Franklin

  158. tellitlikeitis says:

    We should really try to get copies of these bills that were passed like the spendulus bill, etc. I will bet there are some really disturbing and eye opening things in them. They have not been scrutinized like the health care bill. I believe the Dems are setting up the framework now to take over this country and keep themselves in power forever. They are going to pull out all the stops to make sure they don’t sit on the sidelines for another 12 years. I still believe George Soros is the puppet master pulling the strings along with his band of one worlders.

  159. karmahd says:

    Samiam asked: Question ? Did Ben Franklin make this statement before or after signing the Declaration of Independence?

    Facts and Logic, is all that is needed, Energy and persistence conquer all things Benjamin Franklin

    I don’t get your drift samiam? Does it make a difference?

  160. samiam60 says:

    Thank you for that link M2. Absolutely incredible the Liberal Mind or lack of one.

  161. samiam60 says:

    Karma my drift is that perhaps when all else fails Franklin went to war. That is why I question when he made that quote. Before or after signing the Declaration of Independence. I thought it a fair question in life of its substance. No offense meant at all, just a question.

  162. VotingFemale says:

    M2, thank god there are idiots like that Huffpo blogger, Melissa Lafsky, spewing their transparent bullshit for the likes of the Socialists.

    Heaven forbid she goes Conservative, I would not want to be associated with idiots like Melissa Lafsky.

    She has the IQ of a collie and probably end up as a brain washed sex slave in a religious sect.

  163. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF wrote,

    Talk to people… ask them what they think… dont preach as I am doing now. I only do that at this moment in time because no one on this comment log needs to be convinced of the dangers of Obama and his socialist thug organizations.

    I am doing my part to get the word out.
    The good news is that no one can afford to be apathetic anymore. What is going on in Washington is touching the lives of everyone in some shape or form and in my view that is why the sleeping giant is awake and really pissed off.

  164. m2 says:

    here’s another good article written by a Democrat lady turned Conservative:

    Early last fall, an old friend of mine and long-time volunteer for Republican women’s associations, called me from her home in Orlando, Florida. She was quite shaken. She had just returned from what was intended to be a small, quiet McCain support outing, just like the ones she had been dutifully attending for 30 years. The small group of middle-aged homemakers took their little signs to an approved street corner, carried their small American flags and assembled to do their hour’s vote-for-our-guy walk before heading off to the nearest coffee shop to divvy up coming-week duties of stuffing envelopes and making phone calls.

    But something had changed between the last election and 2008. My friend told of a morning from hell, in which the women were rudely accosted on the street by young male thugs (her word), who called them “c*nts,” “whitey whores” and “stupid bitches.” These young males got in their faces and jostled them with angry shoves. My friend said that in all the years she had been doing just this simple patriotic activity, she had never had such a frightening experience. It was to be the first of several, which have left her shaken to this day.


  165. karmahd says:

    Sammie I was not being critical I just did not see the reason for the question that’s all.

    But the efforts in the organization of our nation differ now in that we are a nation. I believe as I said to tellit yesterday this is what the administration wants, it wants to incite anger so it can then use that excuse to implement marshal law. We cannot let that happen, if it does you, me VF and all of us will not be on here discussing politics, we will be shut down and powerless.

  166. tellitlikeitis says:

    Yea, I am sure Mary Jo would have sacrificed her life for the political aspirations of the bloated drunkard Ted Kennedy.

    Give me a break.

  167. m2 says:

    The data compiled by Dr. Long, along with the video-recorded testimonials of dozens of caucus-goers, are indeed convincing. According to Dr. Long, in a personal interview, reports from caucus attendees are pretty horrifying at worst, wholly undemocratic at best. Female Clinton supporters reported being called “c*nts” and other sexual epithets, being spat upon by Obama supporters, being threatened physically, and an overall environment of hostility. Not exactly the democratic process to which we are accustomed.

    … from the same article …

  168. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam, the colonies tried to peacefully gain independence from King George. King George was not going to let it happen.

    In the case of the American Revolution it was the only option left open.

    Civil war in America over the current political situation is not a viable option and certainly not the sole remaining option.

    We will win this with courage to stand up for ourselves and convince others by conveying facts and logic with our written and spoken words, exercising our First Amendment Right to Dissent.

  169. karmahd says:

    The people are speaking in unity for the most part, 80% of all republicans and 55% of independents are on the same page, the democrats are pushing this dangerous agenda that infringes our rights, and they will pay the price with there jobs, I do not think anyone on here would roll over and give up if it ever came to a coup by the Obama administration, first of all the military would not answer to him in my opinion!

  170. samiam60 says:

    Agreed Karma. I do think Obama will find one way or another to Order Marshal Law. ie swine flu,etc.
    Fact is his ultimate goal is total control and that would be his only means to that end. imo

  171. VotingFemale says:

    Notice the Socialists have said many times, to dissent with Obama & Co is treason and un-american because he is the president?

    And those same people felt it was American and correct to dissent against both Presidents named Bush and Reagan?

    That is pure bullcrap hypocrisy.

  172. VotingFemale says:

    notice that Hillary Clinton was responding to claims from the Right that dissenting with a GOP president is treason and un-american.

    funny how the roles changed

  173. samiam60 says:

    VF says:

    Samiam, the colonies tried to peacefully gain independence from King George. King George was not going to let it happen.

    In the case of the American Revolution it was the only option left open.

    Civil war in America over the current political situation is not a viable option and certainly not the sole remaining option.

    We will win this with courage to stand up for ourselves and convince others by conveying facts and logic with our written and spoken words, exercising our First Amendment Right to Dissent.

    VF, I agree and hope that is how things will go.
    The Revolutionary War started once we had no other choice available to us.
    Civil War started for the North at Fort Sumpter. Again no choice left after diplomacy failed.

    I am saying that if this current Socialist Movement continues unabated by our words the American People will fight in the streets to stop it. But of course only after all else fails.

  174. karmahd says:

    It sure is, now that they are in (percieved) power, the very actions they used to voice there opinion are now TREASON!!! Two words BULL SHIT

  175. VotingFemale says:

    Why would Obama coup himself? he is already in power… why overthrow himself to put himself in power?

    Were he to refuse to step down from the presidency when his term is done and a newly elected president-elect was to take the office… that would be dealt with swiftly. But why speak in hypotheticals?

    He is too smart to pull that kind of lunacy..

    karmahd says

    The people are speaking in unity for the most part, 80% of all republicans and 55% of independents are on the same page, the democrats are pushing this dangerous agenda that infringes our rights, and they will pay the price with there jobs, I do not think anyone on here would roll over and give up if it ever came to a coup by the Obama administration, first of all the military would not answer to him in my opinion!

  176. tellitlikeitis says:

    The dems have been feeding us slices of the socialst pie for years one piece at a time but now they want to smash it in our faces. Their blatant in your face tactics have now rung the alarm bells.

  177. VotingFemale says:

    tellit, are you a Republican?

  178. karmahd says:

    My comments were an effort to show that violence is not needed to win this war, as to hypothetical’s that was also illiticted as my opinion that it is not viable to think that ANYONE would allow a takeover of our country without action or dissent.

  179. samiam60 says:

    Has anyone on this blog been “Cautioned” by a Government Official?

  180. karmahd says:

    nope got a link samiam

  181. VotingFemale says:

    understood, and agree.

    I just want to defuse the rush to violence as a first response to this problem… I see that as a testosterone fueled knee jerk reaction to a problem which does not warrant such a solution.

    If a problem of sufficiently grave magnitude should ever arise which required an armed response, I have no doubt in the American Male to step up to the plate and do what can not be avoided.

    karmahd says

    My comments were an effort to show that violence is not needed to win this war, as to hypothetical’s that was also illiticted as my opinion that it is not viable to think that ANYONE would allow a takeover of our country without action or dissent.

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  183. karmahd says:

    UGGGGG! sez caveman!!

  184. tellitlikeitis says:

    You all must be aware that hyperinflation is just around the corner. All the deficit spending and money printing will have severe consequences on this economy and any economist worth their salt will tell you that. When it hits it will be like a financial tsanami the likes of which we have never seen. Just image 20 dollar a gallon gas and a gallon of milk for 30 dollars. Even the rich won’t be able to maintain a decent standard of living. I believe when that hits it will be the spark that ignites the forest fire.

  185. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, I use to be a republican but now I am an independant.

  186. VotingFemale says:

    We are not on their radar, Samiam.

    They are focusing on the Michelle Malkins, Glenn Becks, Rush Limbaughs, and Sarah Palins.

    That is not to say that angry MOONBAT citizens have not confronted any of us… we have all been confronted by those zombie loons. hahahahahaha

  187. samiam60 says:

    Karma says:

    UGGGGG! sez caveman!!

    Ahahahaha, your a funny dude.

  188. karmahd says:

    The hyperinflation is around the corner, but it can be mitigated to some degree, first put people back to work! Second, stem the runoff of equity in housing and investment, third stop Keynesian spending and the printing of money!! You cannot spend your way out of debt!!!!

  189. VotingFemale says:

    I am now an Independent also.

    Why did you leave the Republican Party?

    tellitlikeitis says

    VF, I use to be a republican but now I am an independent.

  190. samiam60 says:

    VF says:
    We are not on their radar, Samiam.

    VF, how do you know that?

  191. tellitlikeitis says:

    I don’t believe the American military will turn against it’s own people. There are many that don’t believe Obama is a natural born citizen. If there is a coup I believe the military will be on the side of the American people against the government. I believe they are starting to get tired of getting killed in Iraq and Afganistan by this leaderless president that barely acknowledges that we have two wars going on and is probably not giving them the supplies and support they need..

  192. VotingFemale says:

    Karma, we are investing in gold as a hedge against the coming flood of inflation.

    I remember the Carter Inflation years… 21% interest rates on home loans. Talk about screwing the value of houses. No one could afford a house and it drove the values down.

    Perhaps Obama is engineering the coming Inflation Tsunami on purpose… seeing the high prices of homes as Racist.

  193. karmahd says:

    OMG Florida’s governor just appointed one of his associates that worked for him to Mel Martinez’s vacated seat of which the governor is running for in the next election!!! See republicans are stupid too LOL

  194. VotingFemale says:

    too small a foot print…

    if this blog became as powerful as Malkins, it would be on the radar.

    I am sure this blog is on a list of conservative blogs kept by the DNC… but that does not mean much.

    All the liberal blogs are on a list in the RNC.

    samiam60 says
    VF says:
    We are not on their radar, Samiam.

    VF, how do you know that?

  195. karmahd says:

    Hell yes he is VF!! Obama is against prosperity, he is not a believer in free markets, his actions are thinly veiled attempt to equalize the population and reach his end goal of the have’s and the have not’s!!!! His spending is his key action in ruining the standing of the U.S. in the world economy!!! This HAS to be stopped!!!

  196. karmahd says:

    But the mindless followers of this PERSONALITY are just plain DUPED into thinking his change is what we need!!! It is scary how little some people see and understand, they are led like lemmings over the cliff by this man!!

  197. VotingFemale says:

    when you have radar blips which are bombers inbound you going to scramble jets to take out piper cubs? no, you triage.

  198. karmahd says:

    “Facta, non verba” Action not words!!! Obama is all words to the public and all action behind the scenes to implement his plan!

  199. samiam60 says:

    Pearl Harbor Radar showed blips.

  200. samiam60 says:

    Government ally Google tells me each and every one of us is on the radar.

  201. VotingFemale says:

    the power of this blog is not weak… that there are huge numbers of blogs like this one and more coming in line every day is real power… decentralized power…

    that we do not have a centralized point of control makes us as a group of millions of conservative bloggers very powerful collectively. taking out one of us does nothing… two more will grow back in its place.

    the power of US as a massive group of online blogging commenting Americans… is really impossible for the Socialists to effectively deal with.

    We collectively are like the Hydra

  202. Foxwood says:

    You guys are on a roll today. I wished I could be on more today. Keep up the good fight. I’ll be back later this afternoon.

  203. tellitlikeitis says:

    Vf, I didn’t leave the republican party it left me. I am a conservative with libertarian leanings. The republican party is full of rinos which are nothing more than democrast hiding behind the republican brand. Since I could no longer identify with the republicans and surely have nothing in common with democrats I decided go independant which seemed to be the logical choice.

  204. VotingFemale says:

    radar was untrusted and a novelty at that point…

    it was ignored through ignorance… and inexperience with radar itself.

    samiam60 says

    Pearl Harbor Radar showed blips.

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  206. samiam60 says:

    Fact is we are here exercising our Freedom of Speech and doing so regardless of our being on Government Radar. Fact is we have to Assume we are. Our comments are well documented throughout Google. I come on here each day prepared to Stand by my Opinions unless proven wrong by my piers.

  207. VotingFemale says:


    Now there are DEMs going Independent because the DEM party has been hijacked by radical Communist Extremists.

    so you have something in common with these new independents… your party forsake you as theirs did them.

    tellitlikeitis says

    Vf, I didn’t leave the republican party it left me. I am a conservative with libertarian leanings. The republican party is full of rinos which are nothing more than democrast hiding behind the republican brand. Since I could no longer identify with the republicans and surely have nothing in common with democrats I decided go independant which seemed to be the logical choice.

  208. karmahd says:

    Fact: without unity of purpose and direction we are all barking dogs. The focus is and should be not trying to be right, but what can we do or say to bring light to the Obama administrations actions.

  209. samiam60 says:

    VF says:

    radar was untrusted and a novelty at that point…

    it was ignored through ignorance… and inexperience with radar itself.

    VF, this is very true however the intended warning was there. It worked.

    Today I can see my house from Space.

  210. karmahd says:

    Off to write my blog on Pelosi! or my Scankiticle, LOL

  211. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam, I am sure the paranoia of Obama & Co equals, and likely exceeds, the paranoia of all presidents when it comes to dissension.

    When I said we are not on their radar, I mean we do not merit their overt reaction. I have no doubt they are aware of us.

  212. tellitlikeitis says:

    A prime example of my last comment about republicans is turncoat rino Arlen Spector who has hidden behind the republican brand for years and now he is home with the democrats where he belongs.

  213. samiam60 says:

    It important for each and everyone of us to be aware that our Freedom of Speech is not free.
    My point is I hope that everyone of us and ready and willing to stand up for our statements made here.
    Remember, we have the right to remain silent, anything we say or do can be used against us in a court of law.

    I am hopeful everyone here understands this as I feel we are dealing with a Different kind of President and the waters are uncharted.
    No cause for alarm at all IMO but just the same the unknown is worthy of Caution.

  214. tellitlikeitis says:

    One more comment about Arlen Spector. I hope the good people of Pennsylvania finally retire this closet socialist in the next election.

  215. VotingFemale says:

    I feel the same about McCain…
    now is not the time for RINOS in the GOP.
    kick the lot out of the party…

    eight of them come to mind… the eight that voted for cap and trade.

    tellitlikeitis says

    One more comment about Arlen Spector. I hope the good people of Pennsylvania finally retire this closet socialist in the next election.

  216. samiam60 says:

    Tellit from the looks of Arlen’s last Town Hall meeting I would say He is Toast.

  217. VotingFemale says:

    and Spector is due being fired by the PA Voters… disgusting turncoat.

  218. VotingFemale says:

    he switched parties because he knew he would not win against his republican opponent… he gambled that going DEM would get him reelected…

    I dont think so…

    Bye Bye Arlen you dried up sniveling sack of bull crap.

  219. VotingFemale says:

    present polls shows 20 DEM congress people out of office as a result of the 201o mid term elections.

    Massachusetts changed the law to keep massachusetts republicans out of congress and now they are considering changing it back to keep massachusetts republicans out of congress.

    this state so sucks…

  220. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam, as long as we don’t make threats or incite any type of violence or violent uprising I don’t think they care about us. This is just peaceful venting and dissent among friends. nothing more. I sure they have bigger fish to fry on the white supremist skin head sites.

  221. tellitlikeitis says:

    I would have been ejected from Mccains town hall meeting for yelling. You don’t tell me I can’t yell in a public forum. I will if I want to Johnny boy.

  222. VotingFemale says:

    I am going to write a new blog post…

    hint: “Civilian National Security Force”

    be back when it is finished…

  223. samiam60 says:

    That would make a Great Post VF.

  224. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is scary!!!


    Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

    They’re not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

    The new version would allow the president to “declare a cybersecurity emergency” relating to “non-governmental” computer networks and do what’s necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for “cybersecurity professionals,” and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

    “I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness,” said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. “It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill.”

    Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller’s aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.

    A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president’s power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.

    When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. “We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs–from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records,” Rockefeller said.

    The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government’s role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is “not as prepared” as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.

    Rockefeller’s revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a “cybersecurity workforce plan” from every federal agency, a “dashboard” pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a “comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy” in six months–even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.

    The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. “As soon as you’re saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it’s going to be a really big issue,” he says.

    Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to “direct the national response to the cyber threat” if necessary for “the national defense and security.” The White House is supposed to engage in “periodic mapping” of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies “shall share” requested information with the federal government. (“Cyber” is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)

    “The language has changed but it doesn’t contain any real additional limits,” EFF’s Tien says. “It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)…The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There’s no provision for any administrative process or review. That’s where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it.”

    Translation: If your company is deemed “critical,” a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.

    The Internet Security Alliance’s Clinton adds that his group is “supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective.”

  225. tellitlikeitis says:

    Another democrat tax cheat.



    By CHARLES HURT Bureau Chief
    SOLD! Chief tax-writer Charles Rangel racked up a tidy profit on this Harlem house, but initially neglected to report it.

    WASHINGTON — Rep. Charles Rangel failed to report as much as $1.3 million in outside income — including up to $1 million for a Harlem building sale — on financial-disclosure forms he filed between 2002 and 2006, according to newly amended records.

    The documents also show the embattled chairman of the Ways and Means Committee — who is being probed by the House Ethics Committee — failed to reveal a staggering $3 million in various business transactions over the same period.

    This week, Rangel filed drastically revised financial-disclosure forms reflecting new, higher amounts of outside income and numerous additional business deals that had not been reported when the reports were originally filed.

    In 2004, for instance, Rangel reported earning between $4,000 and $10,000 in outside earnings on top of his $158,100 congressional salary.

    But the amended filings show that after the sale of a property on West 132nd Street, his outside income that year was somewhere between $118,000 and $1.04 million.

    The forms filed by House members provide for a range of value on such transactions, so the precise number isn’t publicly known.

    Rangel also lowballed his income by as much as $70,000 in 2002, $46,000 in 2003 and $117,000 in 2006, records show.

    Only in 2005 did Rangel reveal his total outside income.

    Members of Congress are required to disclose all their assets and outside income in an effort to expose possible undue influences.

    Rangel’s office insists the Harlem Democrat did not conceal any outside income from the IRS and is paid up on his taxes.

    The Post revealed yesterday that Rangel is in arrears on New Jersey property taxes — for property that for more than 15 years he failed to disclose to Congress and the public.

    Another area of wide discrepancy in his financial-disclosure forms is where he’s required to list financial transactions.

    Every year between 2002 and 2007, Rangel failed to include all his deals for the year, according to records.

    On his 2002 and 2003 financial-disclosure statements, Rangel did not include any transactions whatsoever, according to papers on file with the House clerk.

    But the amended records filed this month show as much as $310,000 in business deals in 2002 and up to $80,000 in transactions in 2003.

    In 2004, Rangel left off his disclosure form as much as $430,000 in stock transactions, amended records show. One of those deals he did include as a transaction on his original disclosure was the sale of the brownstone on West 132nd Street.

    But in the same report, Rangel failed to include proceeds from that sale as outside income. That has been revised in the amended report.

    Despite the reported sale, city records still show Rangel is the owner of that property.

    His nephew, Ralph, who appears to live in the building, wouldn’t answer questions yesterday. Rangel’s office declined numerous requests yesterday for explanation.

    The problems with Rangel’s 2004 disclosure report were so glaring that apparently they caught someone’s attention, forcing Rangel to write a letter correcting his failure to fully disclose transactions that year.

    “I listed only the real-estate transactions in which we were involved in calendar year 2004 on the transactions schedule because I was not aware of such details as the date and magnitude of the transactions involving our securities holding in the Merrill Lynch account,” he wrote in a May 2006 letter to House Clerk Karen Haas.

  226. tellitlikeitis says:

    The Next Credit Bubble Is Now


    Mortgage-backed securities—and the bankers who loved them—wreaked havoc last year, helping to pitch us into the deepest downturn since the Great Depression. Are you ready for a replay?

    Gird your loins. The signs are growing that there’s a new Wall Street gold rush under way—for those complex bundles of mortgage loans that fueled banks’ profits between 2005 and 2007. This year, prices for mortgage-backed securities are rocketing as federal stimulus dollars flood the market. But the difference with this “boom” is the center of gravity has shifted: from giddy, cowboy bankers to the Federal Reserve. The Fed is so eager to save banks, create a demand for these securities, and stabilize the housing market that it’s taking troubled loans and mortgages onto its own books. The problem is the Fed may be in well over its head.

    The Fed is cleaning up the old mortgage securities in the market—mostly old residential mortgage loans backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. But it will soon be on the hook for new ones, too, as troubled commercial mortgages are expected to fail en masse in a crash. The institution has already received $2.3 billion in requests to buy commercial mortgages. Indeed, investors are so eager to dump their commercial mortgage-backed securities on the Fed that they have spurred an outcry against Standard & Poor’s, which has said it may tighten its ratings requirements to keep the more problematic loans out of government hands. Put simply, the holders of such securities don’t want anything to stand in the way of getting on the federal gravy train.

    Both types of assets are creating a shadow boom in unworthy debt, based on the same excessive leverage and questionable financial judgment of the last credit bubble. Plus the Fed is making some of the same mistakes as banks did in 2005-07. The banks forgot they were in the “moving” business-of underwriting mortgage-backed securities—and got into the “storage” business of keeping those securities on their books. That’s where the Fed is now. It has not yet articulated an exit strategy to dump up to $800 billion of mortgages from its balance sheet.

    And if you thought U.S. banks holding all those sketchy mortgages was a bad idea, wait until you see what happens when the center of our country’s money supply is saddled with bad debt. The Fed could bail out the banks; no one can bail the Fed out.

    It’s partly a matter of sheer dollars. The Fed has dug itself in deep, spending $64 billion over the last four weeks and $741 billion this year as it plans to purchase $1.25 trillion of securities backed by agencies like Fannie Mae [

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