ObamaCare Town Halls – Failure to Launch; 54 percent say NO to ObamaCare Bill

obamacare going down in flames(above picture is work of blogger PatriotsForAmerica. You are free to use this picture, unaltered, if you credit PatriotsForAmerica as the originator)

With all the Obama Hype… with all the Obama name calling of any who voice dissent …with all the staged Socialist ObamaCare Town Hall meetings …with the White House SPAMMING of Americans with e-mail Propaganda …with veiled threats against Anyone who would dare to disagree with ObamaCare …with the SEIU and ACORN bused in Thugs to town hall meetings to intimidate ObamaCare Dissenters …and with 90% of the Main Stream Media in Obama’s Hip Pocket spewing Socialist Propaganda 24/7

…With ALL THAT, Obama is going down in flames along with his Socialist Party and their hidden Communist Agenda.


Obama is a JOKE

The Joker-In-Chief

The Joker-In-Chief

Take a look at what has been reported by Rassmussen Reports about what We the People have on our minds about ObamaCare this week…

54% Say Passing No Healthcare Reform Better Than Passing Congressional Plan

Let’s also see what is being reported elsewhere in the media, shall we? 🙂

Debate’s Path Caught Obama by Surprise

Public Option Wasn’t Intended as Major Focus

Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, August 19, 2009

President Obama’s advisers acknowledged Tuesday that they were unprepared for the intraparty rift that occurred over the fate of a proposed public health insurance program, a firestorm that has left the White House searching for a way to reclaim the initiative on the president’s top legislative priority.

Administration officials insisted that they have not shied away from their support for a public option to compete with private insurance companies, an idea they said Obama still prefers to see in a final bill.

But at a time when the president had hoped to be selling middle-class voters on how insurance reforms would benefit them, the White House instead finds itself mired in a Democratic Party feud over an issue it never intended to spotlight.

“I don’t understand why the left of the left has decided that this is their Waterloo,” said a senior White House adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “We’ve gotten to this point where health care on the left is determined by the breadth of the public option. I don’t understand how that has become the measure of whether what we achieve is health-care reform.”

“It’s a mystifying thing,” he added. “We’re forgetting why we are in this.”

Another top aide expressed chagrin that a single element in the president’s sprawling health-care initiative has become a litmus test for whether the administration is serious about the issue.

“It took on a life of its own,” he said.

In search of new momentum, Obama plans to discuss the matter Thursday with thousands of his most loyal supporters in a nationwide “strategy call” hosted by Organizing for America, a grass-roots arm of the Democratic National Committee.

He is likely to repeat what he and his top surrogates have said for months: that he will not “draw a line in the sand” about the inclusion of a public plan and that no one provision is a “deal breaker” as long as the final legislation embraces his broad principles for reform.

“That’s what we said in June; that’s what we’ve said in July; that’s what we’ve said,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters Tuesday.

Anger about an optional government-sponsored insurance program has been simmering for months, but the flare-up has created legislative and communications challenges for the White House at a critical point in Obama’s push for reform.

Polls suggest that support is dwindling for widespread changes to the health-care system, and Democratic lawmakers have begun second-guessing the bipartisan strategy advocated by Obama and being pursued in the Senate Finance Committee.

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Additional ObamaCare and townhall info:
GayPatriot: Rep. Massa To His Constituents: Drop Dead and Ma’am Boxer has time for a book signing, but “nothing scheduled” on health care reform
Alberto de la Cruz, Babalú Blog, an island on the net without a bearded dictator: The limp
Pirates! Man Your Women: Cowards
Hot Air: Democrat: I don’t care what my constituents think, I’m voting for single-payer and Rasmussen: 54% would prefer no bill to current ObamaCare proposals and Cornyn to Obama: Shut down Snitch Central and Blue on blue: Helen Thomas hammers Gibbs on Obama’s phony town hall and Obama: Government health care will be like, um, the post office
Delaware Online: Lawmakers opt out of shouting matches
Moe Lane: Rep. Bishop, Boswell having health care meetings allllll the way over *there*
El Campeador’s Weblog: Reader Report from San Francisco Rally Against Obamacare…LOOK! More “uncivil” MOBSTERS Madame’s Boxer and Pelosi. Madame’s meant in the most “uncivil” way….
The American Spectator: Gallup Finds Independents Sympathize With Protesters
QandO: Skeptical Americans Continue To Say No To Democratic Health Care Plan
Michelle Malkin: Democrat Rep. Betsy Markey, etiquette czarina and Profile in congressional cowardice and White House public option ploy: A trial balloon, not a white flag and Another Democrat takes refuge at a union headquarters and Congressional Fugitive Watch: Has your lawmaker absconded today? and Pretty sneaky, Congresswoman Bean and Winds of change in San Francisco and Obamacare/OFA stage props in Houston: “One is a Che Guevara fan and the other lies about being a doctor.” and Hey, Rep. Betsy Markey: You’re invited to a town hall meeting you refuse to hold! and Breaking: Finance Committee to drop end-of-life provision and Selective outrage of the MSM and Billie Jean King: Obama’s distortions are “cute” and Obama’s town hall performance and Democrats now taking refuge at SEIU offices and Little girl at Obama town hall has not-so-random political connections and NBC: “YES WE DID” and What’s the SEIU up to now?
John C. Phillips, Big Hollywood: ObamaCare: From the People Who Brought You the Post Office
Nice Deb: OUT: Public Option IN: Health Care Co-ops (With Updates)
American Thinker: Orthopedic Surgeons respond to Obama on amputation comment
Pink Elephant Pundit: Skeptic Joins the Town Hall Train: Providing a Backbone for the Good Guys
Confederate Yankee: Obama Administration Distances Itself, From Itself, On Health Care ” Public Option”
Ztower: Congressman Frank Kratovil Escapes Maryland’s Eastern Shore, Finding Refuge In The Calmer, Cooler Middle East.
Yahoo, Reuters: Liberal Democrats unhappy with healthcare shift
Frugal Café Blog Zone: More Dem Cowards Hiding Out from Voters: Delaware Senators Carper & Kaufman Refuse to Hold ObamaCare Town Hall Meetings and “You Can Bet Our Astro-Turf…” San Francisco Tea Party Against Health Care (video) and San Francisco’s Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer Refuse to Host ObamaCare Town Hall Meetings… Citizens Will Hold Their Own Mock Town Hall Meeting and Candle Vigil (UPDATE: Boxer’s Book Tour) and Dr. Obama’s in the House: I’m Not a Doctor, but I Play One on TV (video) and Phony-Baloney Democrat Astro-Turfing: Dems Hiring Fake ObamaCare Protesters from Ads Placed on Craigs List; UPDATE, Little Girl with Political Connections to POTUS? and Trojan Horses and Bold-Faced Lies: Obama’s Own Words on Eliminating Private Health Insurance (video) and Rush Limbaugh: Town Hall ObamaCare Protests, “All Statist” Insurance, and “Obama The Joker” Posters and Fake Democrat Astro-turf Protesting: Is Code Pink “Too-Well Dressed”? Or Just “Too Pink”? Only Sen. Babs Boxer Knows for Sure…
The Reluctant Optimist: Health Care Town Halls
The Clampdown: Obama Ripped By American College Of Surgeons
The Substratum: RHINOCare – The Senate Finance Committee Puts Lipstick On A Pig. Rush Limbaugh And Other Concerned Parties Are Counting On The Blue Dogs And Ignoring The Elephant In The Room
Doug Powers, Michelle Malkin: Town hall time for Obama and ‘the mob’ and Did ‘Cash for Clunkers’ just put Obamacare on the junk heap?
Patterico’s Pontifications: Deceiver.com on Pelosi and Obama: Goal Is to Eliminate Private Health Insurance
American Elephants: The Democrats Really, Really Don’t Want to Hear From You About Nationalized Health Care
Right Voices: Specter: “I could be somewhere else. I don’t get any extra pay — I don’t have any requirement to be here.”
NewsBusters: Harry Reid Will Only Do Town Halls By Telephone, Media Mum
Real Clear Politics: Dem Congressman: Town Hall Protesters Are “Political Terrorist[s]”
The Hoosierpundit: Baron Hill Repeats “Political Terrorists” Line
GayPatriot: AP Finds Anti-ObamaCare Protests Represent Genuine Grassroots
Jim Blazsik: Breitbart.tv » ‘06 Flashback: Pelosi Tells Anti-War Protesters ‘I’m a Fan of Disruptors’
Just Americans Making Ethical Statements Weblog: Surprise: Young Girl @ Obama TownHall in NH was a Plant!
Goodtimepolitics: A Video Obama Doesn’t Want Americans To See (ACORN and local police)
No Sheeples Here: Mistrust Those In Whom The Urge To Punish Is Strong
Fire Andrea Mitchell!: Cowardly Democrats Tim Bishop and Alan Grayson now holding townhalls at union offices

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246 Responses to ObamaCare Town Halls – Failure to Launch; 54 percent say NO to ObamaCare Bill

  1. VotingFemale says:

    Hey Obama? Kiss my Conservative ASS!

  2. tellitlikeitis says:

    These Glen Beck Video are important. Please watch.

  3. tellitlikeitis says:

  4. samiam60 says:

    This White House is the most technically savvy administration in history. It wants to “own your computer” when you sign up for the “Cash for Clunkers” program; it wants to monitor your browsing habits with “cookies;” and it wants you to report your neighbor if you notice anything “fishy.” Now, it wants us to believe that the most recent Internet-related story involving third party healthcare e-mails is another mistake. Don’t believe the government’s excuses. This White House is pushing programs and bills down our throats and it knows exactly how to use the Internet as a means to its ends. But Americans, like the viewer that provided my FOX News colleague Glenn Beck with the “Cash for Clunkers”/”own your computer” story and some journalists, like my colleague Major Garrett, are confronting the government. What my FOX News colleague Major Garrett did, by demanding to know how the White House gains access to the e-mail addresses of millions of Americans, was historic in its dimension.

    The present administration has not even tried to hide its antipathy for our privacy and our right to speak and communicate without intimidation. For starters, the Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment protects the right to anonymous speech; thus, any effort to find out who or where or why folks oppose the president is unlawful and unconstitutional. Second, the statutes that the president has sworn to enforce make it unlawful for him or anyone in his name to take names and try to pierce constitutionally-protected anonymity. Third, the threat to deliver cookies to the computers to those who communicate with the White House is an egregious violation of privacy. Think about it: The government is absolutely prohibited by caselaw and statute from putting a camera over your shoulder while you browse in a bookstore or library. It also cannot monitor your computer browsing habits without violating your privacy.

    The Supreme Court rejected the idea that the First Amendment permits the government to make and keep a record of the faces and voices and ideas of its domestic political opponents. The Court called this “chilling” the right to speak freely; in other words, denying it the breathing room that free speech requires. The whole purpose of the First Amendment, the Court wrote, is to encourage — not discourage — open, broad, robust political debate; and any inhibition, real or threatened, that comes from the government is unconstitutional. In direct response to President Nixon’s enemy list, Congress enacted the Privacy Act. Among many other protections, it specifically prohibits the president or anyone in his name from making or keeping records of any persons’ use of speech.

  5. tellitlikeitis says:

    I hope they retire this ahole in 2010.

    DARTMOUTH (FOX25, myfoxboston) – Rep. Barney Frank lashed out at protester who held a poster depicting President Barack Obama with a Hitler-style mustache during a heated town hall meeting on federal health care reform.

    “On what planet do you spend most of your time?” Frank asked the woman, who had stepped up to the podium at a southeastern Massachusetts senior center to ask why Frank supports what she called a Nazi policy.

    “Ma’am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it,” Frank replied.

    He continued by saying her ability to deface an image of the president and express her views “is a tribute to the First Amendment that this kind of vile, contemptible nonsense is so freely propagated.”

    Frank, who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, sought to assure more than 500 people attending the rowdy meeting that the average taxpayer wouldn’t be hurt by plans currently under consideration in Congress.

    Some of those attending the meeting organized by the Democratic Town Committee of Dartmouth shouted and booed as Frank and others addressed the crowd.

    At one point, Frank asked the crowd: “Which one of you wants to yell next?”

    Several people wanted to know how the government would pay for the reforms without worsening a growing federal budget deficit.

    At least two dozen protesters gathered in small groups outside, handing out pamphlets and holding signs criticizing the overhaul, Obama and Frank. Some of the posters read: “It’s the economy stupid, stop the spending” and “Healthcare reform yes, government takeover, no. Tort Reform Now”

    Audrey Steele, 82, from New Bedford, said she does not want the government to get involved with health care because “they just make a mess of everything,” referring to the $700 billion bailout of financial institutions that was used to pay for lavish conferences and hefty executive compensation.

    Others at Tuesday’s meeting were more supportive of reform.

    Dr. Sheila Leavitt, a physician from Newton, said she hoped for changes that would support primary care physicians who aren’t paid as much as specialists. She said some of the rowdy critics at Tuesday’s meeting appeared to be using the same “talking points” as those who showed up at similar meetings around the country.

  6. karmahd says:

    How undeniably arragont for Obama and his administration to think there would be no debate over his health care bill. Now they are changing the message to a “moral” tone?

    Let’s see if this shit sticks, I think not! Morning all

  7. samiam60 says:

    Dr. Sheila Leavitt, a physician from Newton, said she hoped for changes that would support primary care physicians who aren’t paid as much as specialists. She said some of the rowdy critics at Tuesday’s meeting appeared to be using the same “talking points” as those who showed up at similar meetings around the country.

    Well yah Sheila, That is the point they are trying to make. America is united on they’re Decent of specific issues, thus it is repeated from town to town. There is no right wing conspiracy but rather a united “WE THE PEOPLE” fighting this Socialist Health care plan.

  8. Foxwood says:

    Footage of damages last night.

  9. samiam60 says:

    Howdy Karma. 🙂

  10. Foxwood says:

    Good night all.

  11. tellitlikeitis says:

  12. samiam60 says:

    Well Karma looks like we are in the same boat under Obama. I have got to get out there and look under every rock I can find.

  13. samiam60 says:

    Sometimes it seems to futile.

  14. karmahd says:

    I hear ya Samiam, last time I had to look for work I thought it could not get worse, Newsflash>>>>it’s worse!!!

  15. tellitlikeitis says:

    Accused of Hiding During Recess, Congressmen Now Considering Health Care Town Halls
    Members of Congress who were accused of avoiding health care town halls are now embracing the sometimes fiery forums after voters and local press faulted them for skipping out during their August recess.

    Dozens of congressmen have been using their lengthy summer recess to play hide-and-seek with voters, avoiding the spotlight and spite that have greeted some politicians who returned home to discuss health care reform.

    Those days, it appears, are over.

    Facing pressure from voters and hostile local editorial writers, more and more members of Congress appear to be wilting in the heat of the health care summer and are opening up to the sometimes hostile public forums.

    “Part of the responsibility of being in public office is listening to people, and sometimes the listening isn’t pleasant,” said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics.

    Supporters of the health care legislation being formed in the House and Senate have faced angry questions and accusations at town halls on the subject. Notably among them was Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., who was called a tyrant and was warned of God’s coming wrath over his vote on health care.

    The difficult forums made many politicians wary of hosting their own. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who said organized protesters were prepared to take over the town halls and “shout and shove” their way to the podium, called the public meetings a waste of his time.

    “The people who are showing up at these town meetings are not looking for dialogue. They’re looking for diatribe,” Durbin said. “I don’t think that’s a productive use of my time.”

    But despite worries that they are a forum for seething crowds, public health care town halls are becoming all the rage.

    Rep. Ed Markey was singled out Saturday by the Milford Daily News in Massachusetts as “a senior member of the House committee that wrote the health care bill (who) has yet to schedule a public meeting on the topic.”

    But the Massachusetts Democrat’s office told FOXNews.com that such a meeting is now in the works.

    “Rep. Markey also plans on hosting a substantive and informative forum on national health care policy in the near future,” said Markey spokesman Daniel Reilly.

    Some representatives have also dabbled in tele-town halls, giant phone-in events where constituents can hear from their congressmen and a lucky few get to pose questions.

    “It’s better than nothing, but I don’t think it’s as effective as having a town hall in person,” said Sabato. “There’s just nothing like coming face to face with your congressman.”

    In the telephone events, randomly selected constituents are robocalled and invited to join the conversation, allowing the representatives to reach a large audience — but still protecting them from direct contact with the public.

    “You couldn’t get 2,400 people together in such a convenient fashion,” said Steve Katich, a spokesman for Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, who spoke to thousands of constituents on a massive call in August. Katich said that in-person events sometimes draw six people, a tiny fraction of the reach of their call.

    But a few representatives who tried the tele-town halls have been raked over the coals by voters and local press and now are ready to try the public forum.

    “Some of the folks said recently that we’re hiding. People who know Marcy Kaptur know that’s simply not the case,” her spokesman told FOXNews.com. Kaptur is planning to hold regularly scheduled town halls in September or October.

    Rep. Paul Hodes, D-N.H., held a private health care discussion with residents of a single retirement home in Hanover in early August, but he has held no large in-person public forum.

    “[Is he] reluctant to hear unfiltered, unscreened questions and feedback on this important bill from their constituents?” asked an editorial Sunday in the New Hampshire Union Leader.

    “He’s not running scared,” said Mark Bergman, the communications director for Hodes who told FOXNews.com that such a forum was in the planning process and noted Hodes’ tele-town halls and talk radio appearances. “He is engaged on this issue — he is talking to folks and hearing from all sides.”

    Democratic Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, Hodes’ colleague in the Granite State, didn’t hold any in-person meetings on health care during the first weeks of her recess, choosing instead to conduct a tele-town hall, which the congresswoman’s office said will reach more voters.

    But local papers weren’t impressed by her plans to phone it in.

    “The whole concept of a telephone town hall meeting is flawed,” read an editorial Sunday in the Portsmouth Herald of New Hampshire, which faulted Shea-Porter for essentially “hounding” her opponent at town halls before her first election, but refusing to engage in the meetings now.

    Shea-Porter, like other representatives who have been under the gun during their usually casual recess, is now expected to hold town halls before the end of summer.

    Sabato, of the University of Virginia, said he was pleased to see the burst in attention for congressional town halls — the most they’ve ever gotten in his lifetime.

    “I think the ones not doing it are missing an opportunity,” he told FOXNews.com. “We do live in a representative democracy. That’s the way it’s supposed to work.”

  16. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Karma.

  17. karmahd says:

    Yeah, I have finally made my mind up, I have to focus on winning the lottery! I will spend all day choosing numbers, I hear that works…

  18. samiam60 says:

    GM recalled a whopping 1350 employee’s thanks to the 3 billion dollar Cash for Clunkers Program.
    Great investment of tax payer money. A whole lot of Imports got sold off.

  19. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma, Are you out of work now? If so you should consider starting an online business or selling stuff on ebay.

  20. karmahd says:

    Hey Tellit, I used to be very active on Ebay, but as a buyer, now it is time to shift to being a seller, and I own 4 websites, but all are inactive, I have to think of something to do with them!!! All I know, even though I have been able to make a living in the mortgage industry over the past couple of years since the crash, it is proving to be almost impossible now.

  21. samiam60 says:

    Well at least some of our College Grads have been able to find work.

    IN CHINA !

  22. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma this might be some good news for you.

    Mortgage Applications Rise as Rates Plunge

    U.S. mortgage applications rose last week, largely reflecting a jump in demand for home refinancing loans as interest rates slid to a five-week low, data from an industry group showed on Wednesday.

    Applications for loans to buy a home, an early indicator of sales, rose for a third consecutive week.

    The trend bodes well for the hard-hit U.S. housing market, which has been showing nascent signs of stabilization.

    The Mortgage Bankers Association said its seasonally adjusted index of mortgage applications, which includes both purchase and refinance loans, for the week ended Aug. 14 increased 5.6 percent to 527.0.

    Brad Geisen, president and CEO of real estate website Foreclosure.com, said the level of interest rates on mortgages plays less of a role in home buying than it does in refinancing activity.

    “Probably the biggest driving factor for home purchasing right now is price,” he said. “During the housing boom, a lot of first-time home buyers were squeezed out of the market, but now property values have come down enough where they can afford it.”

    Low mortgage rates, high affordability and the government’s $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers — part of the stimulus bill — have helped pave the way for stabilization, he added.

    “People now realize they can buy the home of their dreams at an affordable price,” he said.

    Borrowing costs on 30-year fixed-rate mortgages, excluding fees, averaged 5.15 percent, down 0.23 percentage point from the previous week. It was the lowest since the week ended July 10, but above the all-time low of 4.61 percent set in the week ended March 27.

    The survey has been conducted weekly since 1990. Interest rates, however, were well below year-ago levels of 6.47 percent.

    The MBA’s seasonally adjusted purchase index rose 3.9 percent to 277.7.

    The four-week moving average of mortgage applications, which smoothes the volatile weekly figures, dipped 0.1 percent.

    The U.S. housing market has suffered the worst downturn since the Great Depression and its impact has rippled through the recession-hit economy as well as the rest of the world.


    30 yr fixed 5.31% 5.53%
    30 yr fixed jumbo 6.21% 6.50%
    15 yr fixed 4.79% 5.06%
    15 yr fixed jumbo 5.84% 6.05%
    5/1 ARM 4.61% 4.28%
    5/1 jumbo ARM 4.99% 4.42%

    But the housing market has been showing signs of stabilization in recent months, with sales rising and home price declines moderating in many regions of the country.

    In fact, home prices in some regions have risen. Some analysts, however, say prices may fall again, with a wave of more foreclosures in the pipeline.

    The Mortgage Bankers seasonally adjusted index of refinancing applications increased 6.9 percent to 1,982.5.

    The refinance share of applications increased to 53.3 percent from 52.3 percent the previous week, but remained significantly lower than the peak of 85.3 percent in the week ended Jan. 9.

    The adjustable-rate mortgage share of activity increased to 6.5 percent in the latest week, up from 5.8 percent the previous week.

    Fixed 15-year mortgage rates averaged 4.52 percent, down from 4.71 percent the previous week.

    Rates on one-year ARMs decreased to 6.66 percent from 6.71 percent.

  23. Sammy says:

    All obama will do is outsource anyways. Just think about the all the lobbyists flocking to Washington DC because of obama’s reckless over-spending of $2 TRILLION in just 6 months, which alone is increasing the National Debt by 20%.

    Politicians take people’s money and reward the large corporations, in this case companies in the health care industry, since they have the money to more effectively lobby politicians. In the end smaller businesses will be hurt.

    Politicians will only reward companies that will be in their best political interest. Honestly, when can you really trust politicians since they are basically professional liars, and being president just means you are the best liar of the time. Why not just give the money directly from the people to the companies and take politicians in government out of the equation?

    obama is going to recklessly spend TRILLIONS of tax payers’ money just to give insurance to about 25% of those who do not have it. Over 50% of people’s income go towards taxes, just imagine how many more people will afford health care insurance if their income is almost doubled because of dramatic tax cuts.

    Competition is what is needed. It lowers prices of products and services, along with developing new innovations. All of which will benefit consumers. You need to remember that monopolistic tendencies can also apply to government.

    The reason why the cost of insurance is high is because politicians in government mandate insurance companies to increase their premiums to pay for ridiculous things. In addition, politicians put up regulations so that Americans are not allowed to get insurance from another state and use the coverage in their own state. This reduces competition making it more expensive for people to get insurance. On top of that medical professionals are not allowed to freely practice their profession in any US state without taking a long and tedious licensing process. This again increases the cost of medical insurance.

    In the end, the problem with most economic issues is too much government intervention of the economy by politicians, who will only tend to do things for political self interest. Just like how obama nationalized GM to pander to its unions. Politicians can barely run government, yet people think they can run a multi-national auto manufacturing company?

    The solution is SMALLER government, LESS spending, and LOWER taxes.

  24. karmahd says:

    Well Tellit, what the new administration has done is forced the hand of the small and private mortgage providers, or in other words the market and his in-action in addressing the housing crisis has forced most of these types of companies out of business. So now the only operations that are still in the business are primarily the Super Regional banks like BOA, Wells And Chase. Those companies are not hiring, and if they do are doing so via contract/temp, so they can cut staff at anytime, and they do not have to pay benefits. This used to happen on a small scale in the past, now it is the operating model and has been for the last 24 months. It is almost impossible to obtain steady work in the mortgage industry, 90% of my friends have left the business, I have been lucky due to my past I had a lot of options and fit a broad array of employment opportunities. Where in the past I managed large operations, for the last two years I have been a piece worker. It is what it is, and looks like I will have to think of some other way to pay my bills.

  25. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sammy, You are right but this group we have in Washington now believes government is the answer to all problems. Until we change the players and the mindset in Washington this country will continue down the path of ruin.

  26. samiam60 says:

    Karma I think the next big trend in housing will be the development of Government Sponsored Tent Cities to house those who are waiting on the Shovel Ready Jobs.

  27. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Luck Karma, My cousin was a layed off GM middle manager and just got a new job. I am happy for him because he has a wife and 3 kids and was really getting stressed out. He is lucky that he is going in to the new company with the same salary he left GM. He didn’t have to take a loss like so many others.

  28. karmahd says:

    Samiam I sent a resume for the under the bridge temporary housing project!

  29. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam, The shovel ready projects are a code word for euthinasia. We will be burying millions of our seniors after government run health care denies them medical treatment.

  30. karmahd says:

    Tellit, over the last 24 months my salary has ranged from the same to 50% of the same. Your cousin is very lucky, good for him!!! I don’t have any kids, so that is not a problem.

  31. tellitlikeitis says:

    I think Walmart is having a tent and tarp sale this week.

  32. tellitlikeitis says:

    Yes he is lucky. We are all happy for him. The only problem is his commute will increase by an hour. His GM job was only 15 mins away.

  33. samiam60 says:

    You may have noticed but the Main Stream Media is staying away from the stories concerning the Tent Cities popping up all over the USA.

  34. m2 says:

    sammy says exactly what we all know and believe!

    and so well put too sammy!!

    And how I wish we had not this morally vacuous congress and head of state. The real battle is figuring out how we can come out with the least damage. Because, although you speak the absolute truth, you know that the politicians are going to push as much Government (irreversible) on this nation before 2010. Where they then believe they can entangle the country in 1-party domination and use ACORN and the like to fill in the vote gap.

    They can all go to HELL!

  35. m2 says:

    “main stream media” stays away from 97% of viable “stories” in favor of agenda and stonewalling truth.

    samiam says: You may have noticed but the Main Stream Media is staying away from the stories concerning the Tent Cities popping up all over the USA.

  36. samiam60 says:

    Amen to that M2. It is what the Main Stream Media is not reporting on that has deceived so many Americans.

  37. karmahd says:

    We are all living the “Truman Show”

  38. m2 says:

    This piece was written my a liberal democrat who turned conservative this last election:

    The Alinskyite’s Big, Fat Governance Failure
    By Kyle-Anne Shiver

    What happens when the thing a president knows best is a set of tactics designed to take power from the “haves”? When the most highly prized info a president ever garnered could be summed up as nothing better than gaming an electoral system with ACORN pay-for-registration schemes?

    What happens when a president is very skilled in deceptively cloaking these less-than-altruistic means in rhetorical “moral garments” and his lies finally start catching up with him, destroying his credibility? When a president has never actually run anything successfully, not even his own paper route or a PTA meeting or a small town’s city council?

    What happens when power-grab tactics, taught by a rabble-rousing revolutionary, suddenly catapult a charismatic demagogue into the highest power-perch in the world?

    Well, then, Barack Obama’s big, fat governance failure happens.

    Here we are, on the worst morning-after any romance writer could conjure, facing a future in the harsh light of day, and beginning to know that all the lovely sweet nothings, murmured in our ears the night before, were just the stuff of fanciful fairytales.

    Even stupid-is-as-stupid-does Bill Maher has pleaded with his president to stop the campaign and do the job already.

    Even Helen Thomas has seen through the wall of false transparency, the sweetest nothing of all in the One’s glittery basket of campaign promises.

    Even Camille Paglia is aghast at the healthcare debacle and wants all the underlings fired.

    Tsk. Tsk. Even the millions of faithful celebrity Tweeters have gone back to play-acting and Facebookers have found a better face over which to swoon.

    The sad and sorry fact is that anyone with even half a brain and a single ounce of common sense would have — and should have — seen this big, fat governance failure the day before, without having to wait until the sickening morning after.

    I shall forever remember 2008 as the year when the ninnification of America reached its peak.

    It’s as though 59 million Americans joined hands and shouted at the top of their little lungs, “Yes, We Can March off This Cliff.”

    It’s every mother’s adolescent-groupthink nightmare.

    Now that the cult-of-personality demagogue is indeed our elected President, even his own faithful Alinskyite minions can no longer be summoned to clamorous action. As the New York Times reported last week, folks who fell right into bed – with amorous passion aplenty — the night before, swooped up in the hopey, dopey, changey campaign, have now gone back to their real lives of making a living, raising their kids and trying to survive the utterly-failed Crimulus Stimulus and the still-lingering recession.

    Morning-after reality has set in faster than a popsicle melts in the August sun.

    So, what actually has gone wrong here?

    Here’s the scoop for anyone who’s been living under the rock of mainstream media’s propaganda lock. Barack Obama used the power tactics from Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, which he honed in Chicago, to play this Country’s voters for fools.

    Alinsky’s power tactics are all about gaining power and have absolutely nothing to offer in the way of practical solutions for effective American governance. Even Alinsky alerted his acolytes to this glaring hole in the revolutionary garment he was devising. Devising solutions was supposed to be the other half of the equation, a part that has not only been written by scads of socialists for the past century. But the big problem is that these programs have been tried again and again, with the same devastating results every single time.

    The only tactic left to a power broker with no clue is to try as hard as he can to revive the dead horse of socialism and parade it around the ring like a horror-filled remake of Weekend at Bernie’s.

    So, when a politician jumps the gun and sprints for the presidential power-perch without first thinking through the country’s problems and trying to come up with some actual new things to try, he is sunk in a mudhole of his own making long before Inaugural Day. When a politician has no executive experience, and suddenly finds himself in the hottest hellhole CEO job in the world, he is treading water from day one.

    What to do? For starters, hire 32 czars to do your job for you.

    The Constitution be damned! Bring me my czars!

    What to do about all the promises made? Turn everything over to the haggard old, tax-and-spend liberals in Congress and their power-pimping lobbyists.

    Even Barack Obama himself admitted in his “Audacity” book that lawyers aren’t good at solving problems, that they’re trained to win arguments, not formulate policy or find workable solutions. He also denounced political operatives in print, summarizing that too many lawyers and too many political operatives were the very source of the mountainous un-workability of our federal government.

    Then, why oh why, is his whole administration a flailing mix of lawyers and political operatives?

    Of course, none of this should come as a surprise.

    We had the president’s own shadowy record, with far more deletions than “allowable” information, which should have raised the skeptical antennae of anyone with half an ounce of common sense. What is the single reason why anyone assumed and portrayed as brilliant-beyond-brilliant hides his own scholarship and grade transcripts? If these records were demonstrably brilliant, they would be on prominent display.

    You betcha!

    In the end, we have one big — possibly horrendous — instance of the president’s own self-fulfilled prophecy:

    “We all know how high-flying words can be deployed in the service of cynical aims, and how the noblest of sentiments can be subverted in the name of power, expedience, greed or intolerance.”
    – Audacity of Hope; Barack Obama; p. 8

    What we have here is a president who knew well how to gain power, but hasn’t a clue how to make that power work for the good he said it would. A president who, for the sake of expedience, attempts to ram unread legislation down the throats of the American public without proper debate. A president, whose greed for power was far more important a priority than taking the time to gain the actual experience good governance requires. And a president woefully intolerant of those who disagree with him on matters of policy.

    Candidate Obama gave us some “high-flying words,” all right.

    But President Obama has given us nothing more substantive than power, expedience, greed and intolerance.

    A very bad bargain indeed.

  39. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma, It’s been a real challenge to live on less money but I have gotten use to it lately.

  40. karmahd says:

    Good post M2, I echo those comments!!

    Tellitlikeitis, I don’t want to get used to it, Dammit!!

  41. karmahd says:

    Tellit I was kidding, but no I don’t want to settle

  42. m2 says:

    VF must be out, but I wanted to tell her that this blog post we’re commenting on made me laugh out loud. That opening paragraph was brilliant! And true!!

    I have chores and projects to do, so I will see you, tellit, SH, samiam, fox and VF later!

  43. tellitlikeitis says:

    By m2 see you later.

  44. karmahd says:

    OK M2 I will see you later too???

    I feel like Rodney Dangerfield here…

  45. m2 says:

    This part from the Kyle-Anne article also made me laugh:

    “The only tactic left to a power broker with no clue is to try as hard as he can to revive the dead horse of socialism and parade it around the ring like a horror-filled remake of Weekend at Bernie’s.”

  46. tellitlikeitis says:

    TUSCALOOSA | Social Security could face a deficit within two years, according to U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus who met with The Tuscaloosa News editorial board Tuesday.

    Congressman Spencer Bachus, who represents Alabama’s 6th Congressional District, visited the Tuscaloosa News on Tuesday morning for an editorial board meeting. Bachus answered questions from associate editor Tommy Stevenson and executive editor Doug Ray

    “The situation is much worse than people realize, especially because of the problems brought on by the recession, near depression,” said Bachus, R-Vestavia Hills, in an interview with the Tuscaloosa News editorial board.

    Bachus, the ranking member of the House Committee on Financial Services, said most people seem unaware of the impending crisis. He initially said Social Security could face “default” within two years, but his staff responded later saying the Congresssman intended to say “deficit.”

    “What this recession has done to Social Security is pretty alarming,” he said. “We’ve known for 15 years that we were going to have to make adjustments to Social Security, but we still thought that was seven or eight years down the road. But if things don’t improve very quickly, we’re going to be dealing with that problem before we know it.”

    The solvency of Social Security, which provides pensions for people older than 65, has not played a major role in the current debate about health care in Congress. Bachus said it will not likely be addressed in any health-care bill the House eventually passes, although if a Social Security bailout is needed, it will invariably have an impact on government health-care programs.

    In the debate over health-care reform, Bachus said that he could support a bill that includes privately administered, nonprofit health-care co-operatives, and the elimination of fraud and waste in existing government programs like Medicaid and Medicare.

    The creation of health-care co-ops run by members is an idea that has gained momentum as Democrats and President Barack Obama seem to have moved away from insisting on a “public option,” a government-run alternative to private health insurance offered by for-profit companies.

    “I cannot vote for a bill that has the government intruding into the private sector, subsidizing health care and eventually putting the insurance companies out of business,” Bachus said.

    As for the looming Social Security crisis, Bachus said solutions are beginning to be discussed.

    “We could raise the retirement age, or in the worst case, cut back on some benefits,” he said. “But that is something we are just now beginning to get a handle on.”

    Bachus visited The News the day after a standing-room-only crowd of 2,000 people attended a health care public forum he hosted in Birmingham on Monday night.

    Unlike some town hall meetings that have turned chaotic across the country as members of Congress have returned to their districts during the August congressional recess, Bachus said there was “only a little friction” between opponents and supporters of various health-care proposals advanced by the Democratic majority in Congress.

    “I think everyone was for the most part civil and we had a lot of people just agree to disagree,” he said. “But you can tell that health care is an issue that has energized the country, because I have never had a town meeting with 2,000 people. And we even had to turn away a lot of people because of fire department regulations.”

  47. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama Goes Postal, Lands in Dead-Letter Office: Caroline Baum

    Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) — “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” — Barack Obama, Aug. 11, 2009

    No institution has been the butt of more government- inefficiency jokes than the U.S. Postal Service. Maybe the Department of Motor Vehicles.

    The only way the post office can stay in business is its government subsidy. The USPS lost $2.4 billion in the quarter ended in June and projects a net loss of $7 billion in fiscal 2009, outstanding debt of more than $10 billion and a cash shortfall of $1 billion. It was moved to intensive care — the Government Accountability Office’s list of “high risk” cases – – last month and told to shape up. (It must be the only entity that hasn’t cashed in on TARP!)

    That didn’t stop President Barack Obama from holding up the post office as an example at a town hall meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, last week.

    When Obama compared the post office to UPS and FedEx, he was clearly hoping to assuage voter concerns about a public health-care option undercutting and eliminating private insurance.

    What he did instead was conjure up visions of long lines and interminable waits. Why do we need or want a health-care system that works like the post office?

    What’s more, if the USPS is struggling to compete with private companies, as Obama implied, why introduce a government health-care option that would operate at the same disadvantage?

    Obama Unscripted

    These are just two of the questions someone listening to the president’s health-insurance reform roadshow might want to ask.

    Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day. For all the president’s touted intelligence, his un-teleprompted comments reveal a basic misunderstanding of capitalist principles.

    For example, asked at the Portsmouth town hall how private insurance companies can compete with the government, the president said the following:

    “If the private insurance companies are providing a good bargain, and if the public option has to be self-sustaining — meaning taxpayers aren’t subsidizing it, but it has to run on charging premiums and providing good services and a good network of doctors, just like any other private insurer would do — then I think private insurers should be able to compete.”

    Self-sustaining? The public option? What has Obama been doing during those daily 40-minute economic briefings coordinated by uber-economic-adviser, Larry Summers?

    Capitalism Explained

    Government programs aren’t self-sustaining by definition. They’re subsidized by the taxpayer. If they were self-financed, we’d be off the hook.

    Llewellyn Rockwell Jr., chairman of the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama, and editor of LewRockwell.com, put it this way in an Aug. 13 commentary on Mises.org:

    “The only reason for a government service is precisely to provide financial support for an operation that is otherwise unsustainable, or else there would be no point in the government’s involvement at all.”

    Rockwell sees no “economic reason for a government postal system” and would abolish it.

    Of course, there’s the small matter of the U.S. Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, grants Congress the power “to establish Post Offices and Post Roads.” A series of subsequent statutes gave the USPS a monopoly in the delivery of first-class mail. Congress thought that without such protection, private carriers would cherry-pick the high-profit routes and leave money-losing deliveries in remote areas to the post office. (In those days, the USPS covered most of its expenses with revenue.)

    Less Bad Option

    It was only through exemptions in the law that private carriers, such as UPS and FedEx, were allowed to compete in the delivery of overnight mail.

    Short of a constitutional amendment or a waiver from Congress, we are stuck with the USPS.

    But back to our storyline. Everyone makes a mistake or flubs a line when asked questions on the spot, including the president of the United States. We can overlook run-on sentences, subject and verb tense disagreement, even a memory lapse when it comes to facts and figures.

    The proliferation of Obama’s gaffes and non sequiturs on health care has exceeded the allowable limit. He has failed repeatedly to explain how the government will provide more (health care) for less (money). He has failed to explain why increased demand for medical services without a concomitant increase in supply won’t lead to rationing by government bureaucrats as opposed to the market. And he has failed to explain why a Medicare-like model is desirable when Medicare itself is going broke.

    The public is left with one of two unsettling conclusions: Either the president doesn’t understand the health-insurance reform plans working their way through Congress, or he understands both the plans and the implications and is being untruthful about the impact.

    Neither option is good; ignorance is clearly preferable to the alternative.

  48. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hey guys and gals check out this link.

  49. tellitlikeitis says:

    This was recorded a year ago. I’m sure it’s much worse now.

  50. tellitlikeitis says:

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  54. LisaInTX says:

    Good Morning my fellow Patriotic Americans!!

    I recently spoke to a friend that lives in OR. She said that hundreds in her area are homeless, and that many churches have opened their doors and parking lots to RV’s and tents to help shelter and feed them.

  55. tellitlikeitis says:

  56. LisaInTX says:

    “Because ‘government-run health care’ — both the phrase and the actuality of the idea — go over like a lead balloon with the American people, the Democrats have chosen new language hoping to obscure their intent to remake the health care system. The new language key word: ‘reform.’ … Language is important. In the policy debates, it matters how words are used. Words used accurately clarify and inform. Words can also deceive and obscure the truth. The true reformers need to point out that the current Democrat plan is not health-care reform, it’s government-run health care and it’s an overhaul.” –columnist Melissa Clouthier

    “When it comes to civil liberties, liberals are often distrustful of government power. But, for reasons that baffle me, they are quite comfortable with Uncle Sam getting into the business of deciding, or providing ‘guidance’ on, which lives are more valuable than others. A government charged with extending life expectancy must meddle not just with our health care, but with what we eat, how we drive, how we live. A government determined to cut costs must meddle not just with how we live, but how we die. That sounds scary and un-American to me.” –columnist Jonah Goldberg

    “In reality, the entirety of the congressional health care plan is a ‘public option.’ It is all about one thing: putting government in control of health care. In doing so, it will necessarily increase the government’s influence over some of the most morally significant decisions you will ever make about your own life and the lives of your loved ones. … Americans can either be self-reliant and free or reliant on government and not free. Choose freedom.” –columnist Terence Jeffrey

    “Obama has said his opponents were trying to ‘scare and mislead the American people,’ when in fact his opponents are the American people whom he is trying to scare and mislead.” –columnist David Limbaugh

    “Nazi Germany is a useful historical example of socialism run amok. The genocide and terrorism ultimately practiced by the Nazis were horrible — that goes without saying. But National Socialism went on for a dozen years, it was the last stage in a progressive nationalization of German society, and there was a lot more to it than genocide and terrorism. It cannot be that because there was genocide and terrorism, the socialist aspects of National Socialism are outside the lines of acceptable political discourse.” –columnist Andrew McCarthy

  57. tellitlikeitis says:

  58. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Lisa!

  59. samiam60 says:

    The Obama Administration should be ashamed of themselves letting these tent Cities struggle with no help. And people criticized Bush after Katrina?
    That was a natural disaster that no one could have prepared for. This Tent City thing can be dealt with in away that helps these folks FIRST! BEFORE ANYONE ELSE GETS A DIME.

  60. LisaInTX says:

    “Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.” –Thomas Jefferson

  61. samhenry says:

    Hi Lisa, Tellit – I’ve had it. I just made a video over at iReport and also mentioned how far we have come since the constitution. It will upload soon. It has to do with Obama the Centrist who is not around anymore.

  62. arlenearmy says:

    We still not out of the woods yet. Some democrat politicians at the townhalls may tell their constituents that they will vote No on the bill. But we got to see what they will actually do when they get back to D.C.

  63. samiam60 says:

    New York Auto Dealers pull out of the Cash for Clunkers Program because of “GOVERNMENT” delays. And the GOVERNMENT wants to run our Healthcare. lol


  64. karmahd says:

    Samiam I went to my local Chevy dealer just to take a look at the new Camero, and they quit the cash for clunkers two weeks ago due to the fact that they had not been paid, and were carrying several million on there floorplan for the program.

  65. samhenry says:

    Hey Sami – I did not realize you no longer have a blog – I went for a visit the other night but you weren’t home! Sorry about that.

  66. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma, new camaro? Did you just win the lottery? lol

  67. samiam60 says:

    That’s right Karma this Government Run Give Away of Our Tax Dollars is creating a nightmare for Dealers. Some my have to closeup because of the Failure of Our Government to process and pay these Cash for Clunkers Claims. This program has also put a lot of Small Used Car lots out of business.
    The only winners in this debockle was the Import Car Company’s who took our tax dollars back home.

  68. samiam60 says:

    SamH how are you today?

    Sup Tellit?

  69. karmahd says:

    I was LOOKING, no money to buy, thanks to our governments inability to address the economy, I am left with my truck which is paid for thank god!!

  70. samiam60 says:

    I see a Clinton vs Obama Showdown coming.

  71. karmahd says:

    It is amazing to me when if you look at the history of our governments past forays into business, you will find, nary a one that has returned a profit, and the worst part is, they don’t care, it employees more cronies and friends that they employ to buy votes!

  72. samiam60 says:

    Those new Camaro’s are HOT.

  73. samiam60 says:

    After only 8 shorts months Obama is well on his way to becoming the Worst US President in our History.

  74. karmahd says:

    A red one came in yesterday Samiam, and I need to get a good paying job, I want that car!!! SS red black interior leather, the big block 400 HP, $32000, which is a lot of money but a steal for that much car, Chevy did it right!!!

  75. samiam60 says:

    Karma I waited for 3 years for that car to come out of Detroit. What were they thinking? Ford had that Mustang out and running fast enough to capture the market. The Dodge Charger was the only true competion. The Challenger is real nice when you get close up and personal with it.

  76. samiam60 says:

    In 1969 I bought a Brand New 69 Camaro SS for cash that I saved for 4 years. A year later I went to Nam. Came back the Car was there waiting for me.
    The Girlfriend not so much.

  77. karmahd says:

    My Dad was a car salesman, so I got to ride in the fastest muscle cars of the 60’s, my fav was the 1966 GTO tri carb, but the Camero/Firebird 1969 400 was a hoot. I will own one of these new Cameros, it is my incentive to find work!!

  78. samiam60 says:

    Those were the days my friend we thought they’d never end.

  79. tellitlikeitis says:

    Chevy camaro. 8cyl 400hp? I thought government motors was going to make yugo like little boxy green cars that get 40 miles per gallon. I sounds like the new camaro would qualify for the cash for clunkers program before it even gets off the showroom floor . lol

  80. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi sam and karma.

  81. tellitlikeitis says:

    This one is for sam.

  82. samiam60 says:

    Hey Tellit. Now we know why GM had to go belly up. They couldn’t get anything done in a competitive way. They took Way Too Long to bring out that Camaro.
    Fact is this car, The Camaro is a tribute to AMERICAN Technology at its best.

  83. samiam60 says:

    Thanks for that Tellit. We were thinking alike there.

  84. tellitlikeitis says:

  85. karmahd says:

    The manual tranny is 426 HP, you cannot go wrong with a Chevy big block, one of the best engines ever built! and 26 MPG to boot, that is as long as you don’t put the boot to it toooo often!

  86. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam , I had a Camaro from the 70’s. I loved it. A beautiful car. maroon ext, white int. 4 on the floor. That car got me in so much trouble. lol

  87. samhenry says:

    Sami – if a car is “hot” today, that means Rose must be away.

    Karm, you sound like the Prez “I WILL have that car deal all wrapped up by Christmas.”

    I hope both of you get some of what you want. I think it’s still possible in America.

  88. tellitlikeitis says:

    sam, GM is offering no money down and zero percent apr for up to 15 years on the new Camaro. That should keep the payments below 200 a month. Just kidding. lol

  89. samhenry says:

    Now I’m going out to get one!

    Hi Tellit.

  90. samiam60 says:

    SamH Rose is right here heat duck taped to a chair watching Sarah Palin Videos.

  91. samhenry says:

    anything you can do… I had one like the white one. It was used but I used it MORE>

  92. samiam60 says:

    SamH I bet you wish you still had that Thunderbird?

  93. samhenry says:

    I certainly do. Dad gave it to me for graduation. When he died, my brothers convinced my mother that it should be sold for a car we could all drive. So what did they get? A Chevy Corvair – you remember “unsafe at any speed”? We had to ditch it when the wind picked up the front end and sent one of my brothers over the side of a hill. I then went out and bought a ford Mustang – first one!

  94. samhenry says:

    When I had the T bird, I had a mechanic say to me: Little girl please be careful with this. It is like a rollerskate with an engine!

  95. tellitlikeitis says:

    I found an old vid of me and my camaro. Just kidding but this car is the same color. lol

  96. karmahd says:

    They just don’t make commercials like that anymore!

  97. samhenry says:

    I miss the old cars. Will health care reform make me miss not having to wait more than 1/2 hour in the waiting room.

  98. karmahd says:

    We still talking cars here

  99. samhenry says:

    Dog yelling from shore and jumping up and down:

    “I have a new report and it’s all about me.” Politics be dammed! After reading Lisa’s report, I’m going to report the Democrats to Peta for out gassing the cattle and for cruelty to other humans – ie Republicans.

  100. m2 says:


    Swiss bank account details going to IRS
    Posted by Associated Press August 19, 2009 9:08 AM
    WASHINGTON — IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman says Swiss banking giant UBS will give his agency the details of 4,450 client accounts suspected of holding undeclared assets.

  101. VotingFemale says:

    Hey Lisa SamH and M2!

    Odipshit is in trouble with the Lefters in his own party…. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  102. arlenearmy says:

    Some democrat congressmen are telling their constituents what they want to hear. Or at least the ones who are in conservative districts. This is why we need to hold their feet to the fire. And WATCH them carefully.

  103. samhenry says:

    THIS ONE IS FOR SAMI, KARM, AND FOX = a followup to yesterday’s “car talk.” Listen, kids, before you were born there was a singer called Dinah Shore and she sang this…

  104. samhenry says:

    Moving from one iconic moment to another about I don’t know over a decade later, “gull wings” were in and Dinah was driving around with some men with the top down singing…. [my family had one of these -same color]

  105. samhenry says:

    VF – thanks for letting me borrow the blog for this nonsense but we all like to please the boys! Finally, Carl Wilson of the Beach Boys had a hard time getting around and evoked the name “Honda.”

  106. VotingFemale says:

    I believe it is a good thing, dear.

  107. Foxwood says:


  108. samhenry says:

    I love the photo in this last great blog of yours – it breathes what is going on here – disaster. And I get SO TIRED of impassioned young people with no knowledge of history who are headed blindly in the wrong direction. The bottom line here is we elected a man with no voting record to look at. We bought a pig in a poke and I paid a high price for the privilege. I apologize for my part in this mess. I just haven’t got religion like the libs.

    Hail the new management of the hallowed General Motors. However, it’s now see the USA in your Camry or Corolla.

  109. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Fox and Samiam!

    The breakfast club is now in session

    Anyone catch the crap Barney “the housing queen” frank muncher was throwing at a town hall yesterday?

  110. samhenry says:

    Finally, a vid of the first government motors car to come off the deconstruction line:

  111. VotingFemale says:

    Also AARP = CRAAP is bleeding all over the place due to a mass exodus of members… it’s management was stocked with Socialists by you guessed it… the Socialists… and people are revolting.

  112. samhenry says:

    Barney? Why yes. I’ve never seen such sensitivity in crown control, mah deah.

  113. samhenry says:

    AARP did issue some kind of statement that with every controversial issue, they expect a peel off in membership. Hell, they lost the whole apple this time.

  114. VotingFemale says:

    Barney needs to be flushed out of office like the socialist crap he is…

  115. samhenry says:

    This is my kind of car ad….
    This is VERY anti-bama and funny

  116. VotingFemale says:

    Posted August 14th…

    AARP is a high jacked outfit

  117. VotingFemale says:

    We have someone on our side who is swinging with effect…

    The Power of Palin

  118. samhenry says:

    Wish there were a comic vid off AARP but there is nothing funny about selling out thousands of elderly who counted on you to PROTECT them from government abuse not sponsor a course in it. See their website for explanation of health care reform. Can anyone spell “conflict of interest”?

  119. VotingFemale says:

    Ridiculing Obama works…

  120. samhenry says:

    Obamanites have hijacked the sense of socialism and have made saying that in relation to Obama racist. What have we come to when ANY criticism of this President is deemed racist. And for those who say “you’re not giving him a chance, ” I say, this is not a toddler that needs Mom and Dad to support him as he learns to walk. Remember in his pre-inauguration remarks one of the things he emphasized was his team would “hit the ground running.” Running? How about streaking.

  121. samhenry says:

    Residents who have torn down joker posters have left the remains at the site. Are these environmentalists? For shame. There are fines for posting; there are fines for “deposting” and leaving litter!

  122. VotingFemale says:

    Notice that it is the young adults who are rallying to the cause…

    Obama is the Joker… and Socialism is the EVILNESS he deals in.

  123. VotingFemale says:

    The Young Adults of this Country are responding… they know no fear …they are in the Frey …they can match the Socialists in gall.

    Go Young People Go

  124. samhenry says:

    It occurs to me that now Obama worshipers have deemed the posters as “vandalism” and have involved the police, we now live in a state in which the opposition to someone’s posted views now have law enforcement working for them? Dissent and vandalism? Hey, the socialists are coming, he socialists are coming and as long as private talk radio has any rights remaining, it will be a mantra.

  125. samhenry says:

    I’m glad to see young people who are thoughtful coming to their senses. Notice how they are not yelling and screaming. They are not paid plants at meetings. They are putting the pedal to the metal and burning leather to distribute the joker posters.

  126. VotingFemale says:

    The Socialists use every tool they can. But… they are poisoning the political landscape with their tactics and it back fires on them.

    Look at the kid in this video… look at his face… he is undaunted and unafraid and focused on branding Obama for what he is… The Evil Joker of Socialism

  127. samhenry says:

    Well, in foreign relations we have to remember the realignment that is going on in both hemispheres bordering the Atlantic – Northern Europe is out, Russia and South America are in. We don’t see joint communiques from Britain and the US anymore. And NATO and British troops are in Afghanistan to prevent Europe from being overrun not because they support Obama’s war – and it is becoming known as that. He’s the one who pulled out of Iraq and has escalated in Afghanistan.

  128. VotingFemale says:

    Yes… SamHenry, these young people are swinging… and they are not going to stop. That is power… that is the fan which is tossing back the crap to Socialists which they have been throwing.

  129. samhenry says:

    VF did you see where OBAMA has opened up yet another disinformation website? I got this letter yesterday:

    Jean —

    It feels like a new lie about health insurance reform crops up each day. Government taking over all health care? Not true. Euthanasia for seniors? Couldn’t be more false. Rationing of care? Reform will stop rationing, not increase it.

    These lies create fear and anger, and we’re seeing the results around the country. Frightened crowds have flooded town halls, and the office of a Georgia representative was defaced with a swastika.

    It’s time to set the record straight — and, more importantly, expose the special interests and partisan attack organizations behind the lies and misinformation.

    That’s why we created our new “Setting the Record Straight” site. Check out the site today and then spread the word to your friends.

    As the site makes clear, these lies are no accident. They’re part of a deliberate plot by the special interests who profit from the status quo to kill any reform at all. While Americans watch their paychecks dwindle, their coverage disappear, and their businesses struggle, special interests are trying to scare folks into opposing reform.

    Our “Setting the Record Straight” site has all the info you need to fight back, as well as easy ways to get involved in the fight for health insurance reform. We’ll be updating it often with new information debunking health care lies, so stop by regularly.

    As we learned during the campaign, lies like these can spread like wildfire through viral emails and from friend to friend. The best way to stop them is to arm yourself with the facts — and make sure your friends and family know the truth.

    Check out the site, and share it with everyone you know:




    Mitch Stewart

  130. Foxwood says:

    David Assholerod, Can you say Cheney and Haliburtion?


  131. samhenry says:

    How many informational websites and mailings does the President have to authorize before people will believe him? It’s ridiculous and a waste of taxpayer money. Just think of all the government workers who are spending time on this and you cannot deny that this stuff is being worked on and controlled by the Prez and his chief henchman, Rauhm the Ripper – he’s trying to slice up the opposition but can’t get a sharp enough knife.

  132. VotingFemale says:

    Yeah, SamH, I learned about that site yesterday… but they are preaching to the choir… the socialist choir who is already in their hip pocket… their BS websites are not convincing anyone who knows the face of Socialism and Rejects it for good reason…


  133. VotingFemale says:

    Another Young Person making a statement on…

    Good verses Evil

    Sarah Palin verses Barack Obama

    listen to what this young man says… it is from the heart.

    The dialect of his speech is that of an Hispanic.

  134. samhenry says:

    I received an e-mail from OFA telling me who my House rep was, when he was having a town hall mtg and providing a “reservation” option. We were encouraged to go and express our support of HR3200. Now if that isn’t organizing for these town hall meetings I don’t know the real world anymore. Imagine they were organizing right down to this lever!

    And how long will the Administration be able to keep this database under current law?

  135. samhenry says:

    Great and instructive vids VF. Good updates and good to know we have garnered additional support.

  136. VotingFemale says:

    The Rumor Mill strikes again! lolololol

    R.I. is a hot bed of Socialism… where would be the upside? SocialistDorks just keep walking on their diks…

  137. samhenry says:

    …garnered the support of youth – the future of a common sense approach to traditional values in government – Conservatives. It is a battle of good and evil. Obama wants to make us prisioners of his economic reforms.

  138. VotingFemale says:

    The Evil attacks the Good…

    Proof of Total Fear of Sarah Palin

    They are more afraid of her than any other single person on the Planet.

    I say RUN SOCIALISTS RUN! Sarah is Kicking Your MoonBAT ASSES!!!

  139. samhenry says:

    Actually in the fight of good over evil Rhode Island makes sense. That state is so corrupt (and the residents know it and keep voting these people in because everyone is either bought off or controlled by people who have been bought off.
    It is a good out of the way central location on the East Coast.

  140. samhenry says:

    When people say the state is blue collar, they forget that there is a ton of Army AND Navy installations there. My brother headed up Personnel and Financial Analysis for the National Guard in Rhode island. He is typical of the Republicans there that would welcome Sarah Palin.

  141. samhenry says:

    And of course the vid about Palin is not anti-feminist or racial? It makes her a clown. Why not Barack as a clown?

  142. VotingFemale says:

    well… rumors are rumors… and she keeps the Socialist ASSHATS guessing! lol

  143. VotingFemale says:

    No vid makes anyone anything… that is the funny part… it does not stick on Palin… it does stick on Obama.

    THAT is the ironic part…

  144. VotingFemale says:

    Part of surviving the War between Good and EVIL is knowing which is which and going with Good…

    EVIL attacks Good… because they bring only EVIL to the Table.

  145. samhenry says:

    Table, VF? The Dems don’t want open debate of 3200. Last I read on the net yesterday, they want closed debate. Outrageous. We’ll never know what was on the table.

  146. VotingFemale says:

    I see strength in using the EVIL ONES’ Attacks on GOOD as a weapon against them. People are not stupid… but EVIL thinks they are.

  147. VotingFemale says:

    The Socialists tried to RAMROD HR 3200 thr0ugh without public debate because HR 32oo is EVIL… thus the RAMROD tactic.

    The last they they wanted was what is now going on… and the response of the EVIL ONES to We the People is pure EVILNESS and it is back firing.

    These people are from HELL itself…

  148. samhenry says:

    You are quite on target, VF. There is strength in using the EVIL ONES’ attacks on GOOD as a weapon against them. I think it was Massa who said the dissent in the Town Hall meetings was killing them. DUH, Eric, you think so? Intelligent people know that the bulk of attendees (those not bussed in) were upset Republicans and the only 1% ere yelling and even with that, we are critical. The Party got a bum wrap last year but we can fix that. We are well on lur way.

  149. VotingFemale says:

    The Socialists want an Info War for the Minds of People?

    They got what they asked for…

  150. samhenry says:

    In a recent iReport vid I linked the Hitler accusation and the Joker picture are reprehensible to any campaign. I have since changed my mind on that. I think a regular picture of him of milk cartons where they advetize other people who are “missing.”

  151. VotingFemale says:

    They need to GLUE those Joker Posters on…

    that will trip up the Socialist Sheeplets

  152. samhenry says:

    VF, the ole dawg needs to borrow a bunk on the ship for a quick nap. I get up early with sun and dog but I fade around 8. BBL and thanks for the bunk time. I’ve enjoyed this.

  153. samhenry says:

    Socialist Sheeplets, VF? THAT is very fine.

  154. VotingFemale says:

    SamH, are you aware Obutthole visited Pakistan at the age of 20? A time when the US forbad US travel to Pakistan…

    What do you suppose a 20 year old was doing in Pakistan in 1981?

  155. samhenry says:

    Dog shouts from bunk:

    What really puts me to sleep other than liberal rants, is being surrounded by dogs that are snoring. I want to join in.

  156. VotingFemale says:

    ok SamH… catch 20 winklets! see you later dear!

  157. Foxwood says:

    Paper work is done… time for bed.

  158. samhenry says:

    Dog is roused from sleep – You don’t mean it, VF = Palesting at 20? Woa – why isn’t that being blasted all over?

  159. VotingFemale says:

    Sleep Well Foxwood!

  160. samhenry says:

    VF here is more info about the Pakistan visit in 1981 and alludes to another one later:

    Campaign press secretary Bill Burton subsequently gave inquiring journalists a few facts. Obama had visited Pakistan for “about three weeks” in 1981, after visiting his mother in Indonesia. He had traveled with a college friend whose family lived in Karachi. He had also visited Hyderabad in India, Burton said.

    Word of the visit surprised observers. The Democratic presidential hopeful has not mentioned it before while campaigning, nor has he written about it in either of his memoirs.

    “[It] was news to many of us who have been following the race closely,” wrote ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper at the time. “And it was odd that we hadn’t heard about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.”

    The news sparked considerable discussion online, with questions asked about why and how an American college student would have visited Pakistan at that time and what he would have done there.

    (The remark in San Francisco was a passing one, evidently aimed at boosting his foreign policy credentials in relation to those of Sens. John McCain and Hillary Clinton. Having visited Pakistan, Obama said, he knew the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam before he became a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.)

    A few more details of the visit trickled out over the following months.

    The 1981 visit took place after Obama left Occidental College in Los Angeles to transfer to Columbia University in New York that same year.

    Obama stayed in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Muhammed Hasan Chandoo. Now a financial consultant in Armonk, N.Y., and an Obama fundraiser, Chandoo on Sunday declined to comment. He confirmed he was Obama’s “friend” and former “roommate,” but said, “I decided at the beginning of the campaign that I’d stay out of this whole game.”

    According to published reports in Pakistan, Obama in 1981 also stayed at the home of a prominent politician, Ahmad Mian Soomro, in an upscale Karachi suburb, and went on a traditional partridge hunting trip north of Karachi. Soomro’s son, Muhammad Mian Soomro, is a senior politician who served as acting president before the appointment of President Asif Ali Zardari last September.

    Ahmad Mian Soomro died in 1999, and attempts to reach his son for comment were unsuccessful.

    An Associated Press story in May mentioned several of Obama’s Pakistani college friends, as well as an Indian friend, Vinai Thummalapally from Hyderabad, India.

    The following month the Times of India, citing Thummalapally, said Obama’s staff got it wrong – Obama had not visited Hyderabad in India but Hyderabad in Pakistan.

    (Hyderabad in Pakistan is a three-hour drive from Karachi. A city of about 1.5 million people – around 750,000 in 1981 – it boasts a famous bazaar. Hyderabad in India is about 900 miles from Karachi. Capital of Andhra Pradash state, it has a mostly Hindu population of about six million and is renowned for visitor attractions including forts and temples.)

    Obama may have visited Pakistan again later, when his mother, Ann Dunham, held a microfinance job there in the mid-1980s.

    A Lahore-based Urdu newspaper, Daily Waqt, reported last August that Dunham worked as a consultant for a Pakistan Agricultural Development Bank program that ran from 1987 to 1992.

    The project was in Gujranwala, the paper said, but Dunham stayed at a hotel in nearby Lahore, where Obama reportedly visited her. Dunham died in Hawaii in 1995.

    Dangerous destination

    Southwestern Asia was a risky place for a Westerner to visit in 1981, although it is unclear whether travel to Pakistan was actually restricted. (The U.S. government at the time advised against visits to Afghanistan and had recently lifted a ban on travel to Iran.)

    Two years earlier, the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan; the Islamic revolution toppled the Shah in Iran; a frenzied mob attacked the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, setting it on fire and killing a U.S. Marine and two Pakistanis; and military ruler Gen. Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq hanged former prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto – Benazir Bhutto’s father – whose government he had ousted in a 1977 coup.

    Pakistan in 1981 was under martial law, with opposition politicians incarcerated, judges sacked, media censorship enforced and anti-government strikes underway.

    The year Obama visited was also a particularly dangerous one for Americans. During a hijacking that March of a Pakistan passenger liner, three Americans onboard were singled out and threatened with death. (Interestingly, two of the three turned out to be wanted in the U.S. and Canada, respectively, for drug-related offenses. Pakistan at the time was a major source of heroin distributed in the U.S., along with fellow “golden crescent” states Iran and Afghanistan.)

    Pakistan in 1981 also was awash with Afghan refugees who had fled their homeland after the Soviet invasion – two million by the end of that year. In Karachi Afghan arrivals added to simmering sectarian and inter-ethnic tensions that was to blight Pakistan’s largest city during the 1980s and 1990s.

    The U.S. in 1981 stepped up funding, via Pakistan, to Afghans fighting the Soviet forces. Thousands of Arab and other foreign mujahideen flocked to Pakistan and Afghanistan to join the war.

    In the early 1980s, a Palestinian ideologue named Abdullah Azzam was coordinating the jihad from Peshawar, near the Afghanistan border. Azzam, who also taught at Islamabad’s International Islamic University, visited America numerous times during the 1980s, urging support for the war in Afghanistan.

    Described as a charismatic orator, he told fanciful tales of Islamic warriors not being harmed by Soviet tanks and bullets, and slain martyrs whose corpses did not decay.

    Azzam’s Peshawar center was known as the Afghan Bureau. His deputy and financier was a Saudi named Osama bin Laden. Azzam is regarded by many scholars as having laid the ideological groundwork for modern-day jihad. After his assassination in a 1989 bomb blast, bin Laden took over the bureau and developed what would become al-Qaeda.

    ‘Morbid thoughts’

    How much – if anything – the 19- or 20-year-old Obama knew about the Afghanistan jihad during that 1981 visit is unclear.

    But it’s precisely the shortage of details that worries some, like veteran security analyst Bahukutumbi Raman, a former Indian counterterrorism chief.

    Mulling how a President Obama would deal with each of South Asia’s historical foes, Raman said that as an Indian, he naturally felt troubled that Obama had not disclosed the Pakistan visit earlier.

    “Why did he keep mum on his visit to Pakistan till this question was raised?” asked Raman, who is the director of India’s Institute for Topical Studies. “Has he disclosed all the details regarding his Pakistan visit? Was it as innocuous as made out by him – to respond to the invitation of a Pakistani friend or was there something more to it?”

    Raman continued, “As I read about Obama’s visit to Pakistan in the 1980s, I could not help thinking of dozens of things. Of the Afghan jihad against communism. Of the fascination of many Afro-Americans for the jihad. Of the visits of a stream of Afro-Americans to Pakistan to feel the greatness of the jihad. Of their fascination for Abdullah Azzam …”

    Raman said although having such thoughts may seem “morbid,” it was “understandable when one has a feeling that one has not been told the whole story, but only a part of it.”

    “It is the right of the Americans to decide who should be their president,” he said. “It is my right to worry about the implications of their decision for the rest of the world, including India.”

    The Obama campaign did not respond to an invitation to comment on some of the speculation surrounding the visit to Pakistan or to provide further details about the trip.

  161. samhenry says:

    Source for the above:


    If his campaign manager had not tried to clarify the 1981 visit’s purpose, etc., it would have been impossible to track him there from Indonesia. How many other side trips has he made to the Middle East? I can’t believe he was studying the area so early on. Amazing. And they site this as foreign relations experience? It was a fact-finding mission straight up.

    Cat is so good to be up against your feine – I mean fine mind.

  162. VotingFemale says:


  163. VotingFemale says:

    I typed Palestine… meaning Pooky-Stoon lol

  164. samhenry says:

    VF, if Conservatives feel betrayed by Obama, think about the Jewish voters:

    « Our Condolences | Home | The Mount of Olives: Jerusalem and the Jewish People »
    Obama’s State Dept Says Jerusalem Is Palestinian

    In this day and age, an organization’s web page tells a lot about its owner. The words and the pictures present the images and the message of the sponsoring organization.

    That is why the United States State Department’s web site for the American Consulate in Jerusalem is so disturbing. The site can be accurately described as a newsletter for all things Palestinian. It announces U.S. taxpayer grants to the Palestinian Authority. It provides tickets for Palestinian youth to summer camps and movie theaters. It announces a grant to preserve Palestinian Heritage.

    What is not mentioned (and this may change when light is shed on this embarrassing situation) is that:


    Our friend Cliff May from the Foundation for the Defense Democracies notes that there is a link to an Arabic version of the site but none to a Hebrew version.

    Take a look at this piece of propaganda brought to you by the Obama Administration. After you look let Obama know what you think, let your elected Representatives know as well.

    One Jerusalem has repeatedly warned that the Obama Administration is intent on taking Jerusalem away from the Jewish people. Unfortunately the evidence supporting this proposition continues to pile up.

  165. samhenry says:

    Pooky -Stoon, VF? LOL – Thanks to Obama, we have entered another Viet nam in Afghanistan; thousands of our troops will be killed in the mountains with restrictions put on their movements in respect for Fooky-Stoon interests. Pakistan itself WILL become a radical Muslim state. Russia figured this out and left.

  166. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!

    Firms with Obama ties profit from health push

    By SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writer Sharon Theimer, Associated Press Writer – Wed Aug 19, 6:08 pm ET
    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama’s push for a national health care overhaul is providing a financial windfall in the election offseason to Democratic consulting firms that are closely connected to the president and two top advisers.

    Coalitions of interest groups running at least $24 million in pro-overhaul ads hired GMMB, which worked for Obama’s 2008 campaign and whose partners include a top Obama campaign strategist. They also hired AKPD Message and Media, which was founded by David Axelrod, a top adviser to Obama’s campaign and now to the White House. AKPD did work for Obama’s campaign, and Axelrod’s son Michael and Obama’s campaign manager David Plouffe work there.

    The firms were hired by Americans for Stable Quality Care and its predecessor, Healthy Economy Now. Each was formed by a coalition of interests with big stakes in health care policy, including the drug maker lobby PhRMA, the American Medical Association, the Service Employees International Union and Families USA, which calls itself “The Voice for Health Care Consumers.”

    Their ads press for changes in health care policy. Healthy Economy Now made one of the same arguments that Obama does: that health care costs are delaying the country’s economic recovery and that changes are needed if the economy is to rebound.

    There is no evidence that Axelrod directly profited from the group’s ads. Axelrod took steps to separate himself from AKPD when he joined Obama’s White House. AKPD owes him $2 million from his stock sale and will make preset payments over four years, starting with $350,000 on Dec. 31, according to Axelrod’s personal financial disclosure report.

    A larger issue is a network of relationships and overlapping interests that resembles some seen in past administrations and could prove a problem as Obama tries to win the public over on health care and fulfill his promise to change the way Washington works, said Sheila Krumholz, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, a government watchdog group.

    “Even if these are obvious bedfellows and kind of standard PR maneuvers, it still stands to undercut Obama’s credibility,” Krumholz said. “The potential takeaway from the public is ‘friends in cahoots to engineer a grass roots result.'”

    White House spokesman Ben LaBolt said that Axelrod has had no communications with Healthy Economy Now or with Americans for Stable Quality Care, and his payments aren’t affected by the ad contracts. Axelrod’s son, a salaried AKPD employee, doesn’t work with either coalition “or stand to benefit from that work,” LaBolt said.

    “David Axelrod has fully complied with the toughest-ever ethics rules for administration officials, including divesting from AKPD before the administration began,” LaBolt said.

    Ken Johnson, a PhRMA senior vice president, said GMMB and AKPD were the only two firms working on the $24 million in ads. He declined to reveal how much each was paid beyond saying that each received a small percentage of the total. The coalition’s campaign team decided to hire the two firms, he said.

    “In a perfect world, it’s a distraction we don’t need right now, but these are very gifted consultants who have done very good work,” Johnson said. “And it’s also important to remember that at the end of the day, the coalition partners determine the message.”

    Healthy Economy Now spokesman Jeremy Van Ess said the two firms were hired because “they are the best at what they do. Period.” The coalition didn’t seek approval or direction on any of its activities from the White House, said Van Ess, a partner in a consulting firm that has worked on Democratic Senate election activities and a former speechwriter for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

    AKPD and GMMB both proudly proclaim their connections to Obama on their Web sites.

    AKPD has a full page on Axelrod that includes pictures of Obama. In one photo, Obama hugs Plouffe on election night.

    “We are deeply honored to have been part of Barack Obama’s historic campaign to change America and the world,” GMMB says on its Web site. GMMB’s partners include Jim Margolis, a senior strategist for Obama’s presidential campaign.

    Both GMMB and AKPD also have worked for Democrats this year. The Democratic National Committee paid AKPD at least $106,000 for polling, media production, communication consulting and travel costs from February through April. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee paid GMMB roughly $75,000 from February through June for ads. And GMMB took in at least $9,000 this year from Senate leader Reid’s political action committee for communications consulting.

  167. VotingFemale says:

    OBAMA is Against Israel and they know it.

  168. tellitlikeitis says:

    Health Insurers Fear Probe By House Dems Is
    Strong arm tactics by the Obama health care thugs. This is what happens when socialists take over.

    Reprisal for Opposing Part of Obama’s Plan
    Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is “examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry.”

    In a move some fear is a reprisal for opposing President Obama’s health care plan, Democrats sent 52 letters to health insurers requesting financial records for a House committee’s investigation.

    Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is “examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry.”

    Waxman, chairman of the committee, and Stupak, chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee did not inform their Republican counterparts of their plans.

    Health insurers have until Sept. 4 to provide Congress a detailed list of every employee who made over a $1 million dollars a year between 2003 and 2008. Democrats also want documents about conferences and any events held off company property as well as the types of transportation, lodging, food, entertainment and even gifts exchanged.

    Raising the intimidation stakes: the Waxman letter offers insurers no explanation of what is being investigated or why.

    Industry insiders fear the beginning of reprisals for anyone daring to dissent from the Obama agenda. One said it feels like a reprisal audit by the IRS.

    With raucous health care town halls unfolding nationwide during the August congressional recess and polls showing increased opposition to a government-run insurance program or “public option,” neither Waxman nor Stupak nor their staffs would comment on this story. But it’s no secret that Democrats blame anti-reform ads on the private health insurance industry and its supporters.

    Private health insurers warn that a public option could put them at a competitive disadvantage and even out of business, but they insist they support health care reform in general.

    A spokesman for Stupak told The Associated Press Tuesday night that 52 letters had been sent to health insurers with $2 billion or more in annual premiums. He said letters were not dispatched to other industry groups, some of which have been airing television advertising in support of Obama’s call for legislation.

    But Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for the American Health Insurance Plans, said Democrats on the panel hoped to “silence the health insurance industry and distract attention away from the fact that the American people are rejecting a government-run plan” as part of Obama’s planned overhaul.

    Zirkelbach said it would be up to individual companies to decide whether to turn the records over.

    Spokesmen for three large insurance companies, Aetna, UnitedHealth Group Inc. and WellPoint Inc., confirmed the firms had received the letters but declined comment.

  169. boudicabpi says:

    I think they know there is a groundswell of opposition to Obama’s agenda and they want to jam everything they can down our throats before 2010.

  170. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama is a muslim so naturally he would be against Israel.

  171. samhenry says:

    Hate long posts like this but ….

    The Soros Doctrine in Obama Foreign Policy
    By Kyle-Anne Shiver
    President Obama is rapidly replacing the Bush Doctrine with the Soros Doctrine, implementing the foreign policy tenets of the principal financier of the American left.

    When Charlie Gibson peered pedantically down his nose at Sarah Palin last fall, asking “Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?,” I could not help but wonder whether anyone in our esteemed mainstream media would have the intelligence or the temerity to ask candidate Barack Obama whether he agreed with the Soros doctrines.

    Too late now.

    Soros doctrines reign in the Obama White House and we’re about to learn firsthand whether they represent the ideology of choice for a safer U.S.A.

    Or whether they were just the cockamamie delusions of an aged, amoral currency manipulator put in play by a neophyte politician with a staff-scripted teleprompter glued to each hip.

    But first, a little review of the Bush doctrine and its track record.

    This is for you, Charlie Gibson.

    In a piece titled, “Charlie Gibson’s Gaffe,” Washington Post writer, Charles Krauthammer offered the most succinct summation of the Bush doctrines (There were four.), stating emphatically that Gibson’s smug definition came up quite short of the mark.

    Krauthammer (who was himself the first to use the term, “Bush doctrine”) delineated four distinct and superceding elements to Bush foreign policy:

    #1 (pre-9/11) – unilateral withdrawal from the ABM treaty, the Kyoto protocol and other international initiatives, which were deemed by President Bush harmful to U.S. interests.

    #2 – the “with us or against us” speech to Congress nine days after 9/11, which quickly resulted in the 7-point ultimatum given to President Musharraf of Pakistan, demanding his withdrawal of support for the Taliban.

    #3 – in the wake of our invasion of Iraq, President Bush gave his justification for preemptive war for defensive purpose.

    #4 – enunciated in President Bush’s second inaugural address, that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to aid the spread of democracy throughout the world.

    The bottom line for America is that we know for certain the Bush Doctrines kept us safe for seven whole years, kept our IslamoFascist foes magnetized in Afghanistan and Iraq and kept other enemies balanced on their toes with the full knowledge that any belligerent move would be met with U.S. force.

    Say whatever you will, Charlie Gibson, the cowboy kept us safe.

    Soros, the Anti-Bush

    “I have made rejection of the Bush doctrine the central project of my life.”
    — George Soros, Wall Street Journal; March 3, 2004

    The relevant question here would seem to be, Why? What was it, specifically, about the Bush Doctrines that so roiled George Soros?

    Soros published his own book on the subject in 2003: The Bubble of American Supremacy: The Cost of George W. Bush’s War in Iraq. The Soros Doctrine boils down to a short list of simple tenets:

    * President Bush’s reaction to 9/11 was an extreme over-reaction. The Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have been counterproductive in the world scheme of things, causing far more harm than help.
    * The Global War on Terror was ill-conceived, ill-fought and ought to be dismantled, the sooner the better for international relations.
    * The desire to spread American democracy to other regions is based on a false set of documents, namely the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Soros’ belief that there is no such thing as a universal truth, that all things are relative and all moral systems are essentially equivalent leads him to conclude that our founding documents are fundamentally flawed in that they claim to rest upon “self-evident truths.”

    These might be called more accurately, anti-tenets, as they merely serve to refute the Bush Doctrines. But any careful observer would be inclined to make special note of Soros’ ever-present insistence that American foreign policy be formulated in a way that puts international objectives ahead of U.S. objectives. Soros expects the U.S. to subjugate herself to what he believes will help the whole world, not merely us and our interests.

    So, what doctrines does Soros specifically advocate?

    * The United States should use its position of financial and military might to “lead a cooperative effort to improve the world by engaging in preventive actions of a constructive character.”
    * The United States should increase foreign aid to all who need it. Soros believes that by giving grants, as opposed to loans, to developing countries, we make friends and give people what they need, thereby decreasing the incentives for making war against us.
    * Terrorists have always been with us, Soros insists, and terrorism requires “police action,” not wars based upon “imperialist intentions.”
    * Only an international body (such as the U.N.) can solve the problem of terrorism as it is an inherently international problem.
    * The Bush Doctrine of holding host nations responsible for their support and protection of terrorist entities shuts down the necessary diplomatic channels, which would otherwise lead to joint solutions.

    The bottom line is that George Soros is an internationalist; he always has been. He has even said that the only thing the U.S. does for him is issue his passport, which is itself an obsolete instrument of the even more obsolete nation-state concept.

    Soros Doctrines and President Obama

    President Obama’s Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has begged the Chinese to support our debt, while sloughing off human rights abuses by the communist regime and has praised the environmental efforts of our Mexican neighbor, while making no mention of the flood of Mexican illegal immigrants invading our southern borders. Madame Clinton has finger-wagged our Israeli allies, while securing $900 million in American aid to the beleaguered Palestinians (read Hamas) while there are no demands on them to stop firing rockets into Israel. Madame Clinton has additionally pledged a $200 million scholarship fund for Palestinians.

    Buying friends is a staple of Soros foreign policy. Greased palms, he seems to believe, provide a great deal of “cooperation.”

    Candidate Obama echoed this view in his Berlin citizen-of-the-world address, stating,

    “Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.”

    Adhering to Soros doctrine again, President Obama has declared that the United States is no longer engaged in a “Global War on Terror.” We are now conducting “overseas contingency operations.” For seven long years, George Soros vociferously attacked Bush for declaring war on terrorism, calling the Global War on Terror a “false metaphor,” which inevitably resulted in catastrophic civilian casualties, in turn creating more terrorists for the future.

    In addition, Obama has echoed Soros’ objection to Gitmo and has declared that it will be closed within the year. Obama seeks to revert to the failed Clinton policy of treating terrorism as an international policing problem, and plans to rely on the Soros doctrines of cooperation, international law and law enforcement actions that do not use military force except for police functions.

    Interestingly, President Obama’s intention to deploy 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan falls into what Soros counts as a police function. The original intention of Operation Enduring Freedom (War in Afghanistan) was to capture Osama bin Laden, destroy al-Qaeda, and remove the Taliban regime which had provided support and safe harbor to al-Qaeda. If bin Laden is ever captured, then presumably the Afghan “contingency operation” will end and President Obama will work out a peace accord with the “moderates” of the Taliban, as Pakistan has done.

    When President Obama announced last week his intention to add 4,000 troops to the earlier declared 17,000 additional forces to Afghanistan, he added that he intends to garner Congressional approval for a $15 billion aid package for Pakistan. The $15 billion for Pakistan’s leaders will most likely be approved, in spite of our own intelligence evidence, which concludes the Pakistan government is using our money to finance the Taliban in Afghanistan. The Taliban is killing U.S. soldiers, using our own money, funneled through the middleman, Pakistan.

    One must surely wonder whether Soros and Obama have ever read the Koran. It certainly appears that they have not.

    At this point, a mere 2 months into the Presidency of Barack Obama, it seems painfully clear that we have not only elected a deceitful knave, but one intent on the complete dismantling of our own defenses, with seemingly very little concern for the consequences.

    The icing on this poisonous cake would seem to be that we ourselves will pay for our own destruction.

    Boiled down to the dry pot, we must conclude that President Obama, his entire Administration, the Democratic Congress and their favorite benefactor, George Soros, have an evolved form of slavery in mind. It’s a type of slavery whereby the productive class is held shackled to the political class’s outlandish worldview that there isn’t a single problem under the sun, which cannot be swiftly solved with our money, produced by the sweat of our collective brow. They consider our wages and the wages of our children and grandchildren to be their own property, to be squandered in whatever manner they see fit.

    And I believe this has a name, even though we modern folks have long forgotten not only its name, but the centuries of toil and buckets of blood that went into dismantling the system than enthroned it. It’s called, I believe, serfdom.

    Kyle-Anne Shiver is a frequent contributor to American Thinker. She welcomes your comments at kyleanneshiver@gmail.com.
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  172. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Tellit!

    Good Morning boudicabpi!

    and yeah… Obama is decidedly Anti-America

  173. tellitlikeitis says:

    boudicabpi , It took more than 6 months but people are waking up and realizing that a radical socialist was elected as president last November.

  174. VotingFemale says:

    Barney Frank responded, SamH, with a charge that OBamaCare will cost too much money with… “look at the money spent on the Iraq war” as if there is a Juxtapose between the two.


  175. VotingFemale says:

    I very much agree… the groundswell is responding to being lied to and to the destruction of the USA from the inside out…

    boudicabpi says

    I think they know there is a groundswell of opposition to Obama’s agenda and they want to jam everything they can down our throats before 2010.

  176. samhenry says:

    VF you are so right to bring these things together. And it is laughable.

    Poor Barney – he has troubles deciding many other things in his life as well. It just spills over into his work at times. I have to hand it to him he keeps on going regardless of his lack of knowledge about anything or the wishes of others that he should go home.

  177. VotingFemale says:

    The Socialists are escalating a Personal Attack War On Americans Who Dare To Object To Socialism… and it is not a war they will win.

    They come off like this… The Joker

  178. tellitlikeitis says:

    Tim Pawlenty: Voters ‘ticked off and scared’

    Minnesota GOP Gov. Tim Pawlenty, best known among Republicans for his fiscal record, has discovered a policy niche that is beginning to pay dividends for his prospective 2012 presidential bid: health care.

    Though party insiders tend to be more familiar with the two-term governor’s record of balancing his state’s budget three times when facing deficits without raising taxes, he is emerging as a key GOP voice during the health care debate by occupying a space between two party poles, with former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich positioned on one side and former Massachusetts GOP Gov. Mitt Romney on the other.

    Between Romney, who signed his state’s now-troubled universal health care plan into law, and Gingrich and Palin, who have used their megaphones to rail against so-called “death panels,” Pawlenty has carved out a space uniquely tailored to his political persona.

    “He is not comfortable being in a position where he is just throwing bombs or being negative. He likes policy and likes to talk policy,” said longtime Pawlenty friend and former Rep. Vin Weber (R-Minn.). “But once we get past the white hot debates of this August and fall, health care is still going to be an issue and he’s going to be in a great position where he can speak substantively on this issue.”

    “Minnesota’s been a fairly ambitious state in terms of enacting health care legislation so he’s had to deal with the positive sides of that, as well as the costs, that other governors from more traditionally conservative states have not,” Weber added.

    In an interview with POLITICO, Pawlenty offered tough criticism of President Barack Obama’s attempted health care overhaul and spoke in detail about potential GOP alternatives but stopped short of using the kind of overheated rhetoric that has marked the August debate .

    “People are ticked off and scared. You have a situation where a good chunk of the country is waking up to the fact that Obama is proposing things that are out of step with common sense, out of step with the notion that the government isn’t going to run everything,” said Pawlenty, who delivered a health care-oriented speech Friday at the second-annual GOPAC conference in Chicago, a meeting of conservative state legislators and national party leaders.

    Pawlenty said he has three major objections to Democratic plans: the public option, possible tax increases on small and medium-sized businesses and the “massive spending disaster” that would result if health care were added to a federal budget.

    The Minnesota governor also supports the right to pool insurance risk across state lines, opening up private insurance markets to allow consumers to buy a policy from nearly anywhere, creating an electronic billing and prescription system, the prohibition of coverage denials based on pre-existing conditions, portability guarantees and incentivizing hospitals and patients to reduce the cost of individual visits.

    His approach doesn’t always land him in the headlines, but it’s winning him notice as a serious voice in the debate without damaging his Minnesota Nice brand.

  179. samhenry says:

    From the BBC about the Afghanistan election today and the risk for obama:

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    Obama’s Afghan plan: comprehensive and campaigning

    Mark Urban | 21:51 PM, Friday, 27 March 2009

    The long awaited Obama blueprint form Afghanistan has appeared. It’s certainly comprehensive – acknowledging the importance of ‘non-kinetic’ efforts such as aid, reconciliation talks with ‘reconcilable’ Taleban, and training Afghan troops. It also gives a regional focus to the effort, with much emphasis on Pakistan, and plans for the formation of a diplomatic Contact Group to involve important neigbours including Iran, India or the Central Asian republics in find a solution to the problem.

    It begs though some questions both about the degree to which he wants US and other Nato forces to fight the Taleban and about his whether President Obama’s approach to political problems needs to be quite so partisan.

    He defined his country’s central aim as: “to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future. That is the goal that must be achieved. That is a cause that could not be more just. And to the terrorists who oppose us, my message is the same: we will defeat you”.

    Under the rubric of defeating al-Qaeda you could justify largely withdrawing from rural Afghanistan, since you won’t find many al-Qaeda types there. The logic for continuing the fight in places like Helmand, the President’s advisers might argue, lies in his phrase about preventing militant Islamists from regaining power in Afghanistan. Even so, one could easily argue that such an objective does not necessarily justify largescale involvement of Nato troops in Afghan counter insurgency operations. Elsewhere in the speech however the president said, “we and our friends and allies must reverse the Taliban’s gains”. This seems to imply a much larger involvement in counter-insurgency. We will wait to see how commanders on the ground resolve this dilemma.

    The other curious aspect about this announcement was the sense in which it still sounded a bit like a campaign speech rather than that of a Commander in Chief. The centrality of al-Qaeda and 9/11 in the early part of his argument sounded like an attempt to convince his Democratic base that the struggle is still worth it. The emphasis on turning over more of the fight to Afghan forces has already led some to dub this announcement an ‘exit strategy’.

    The president also appeared to blame the Bush administration a couple of times for neglecting Afghanistan in favour of Iraq. Today he announcemed that 4,000 troops would be sent to train bigger Afghan security forces but that “those resources have been denied because of the war in Iraq”. This sounded like a criticism of President Bush for taking his eye off the ball, yet it is hard to believe that the US armed services could not have provided a training mission of that size if local commanders had asked for it, say one year ago.

  180. samhenry says:

    This sounds more like domestic policy:

    He defined his country’s central aim as: “to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future.

  181. tellitlikeitis says:


    Today’s Wall Street Journal contains some puzzling news for all Americans who are impacted by high energy prices and who share the goal of moving us toward energy independence.

    For years, states rich with an abundance of oil and natural gas have been begging Washington, DC politicians for the right to develop their own natural resources on federal lands and off shore. Such development would mean good paying jobs here in the United States (with health benefits) and the resulting royalties and taxes would provide money for federal coffers that would potentially off-set the need for higher income taxes, reduce the federal debt and deficits, or even help fund a trillion dollar health care plan if one were so inclined to support such a plan.

    So why is it that during these tough times, when we have great needs at home, the Obama White House is prepared to send more than two billion of your hard-earned tax dollars to Brazil so that the nation’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, can drill off shore and create jobs developing its own resources? That’s all Americans want; but such rational energy development has been continually thwarted by rabid environmentalists, faceless bureaucrats and a seemingly endless parade of lawsuits aimed at shutting down new energy projects.

    I’ll speak for the talent I have personally witnessed on the oil fields in Alaska when I say no other country in the world has a stronger workforce than America, no other country in the world has better safety standards than America, and no other country in the world has stricter environmental standards than America. Come to Alaska to witness how oil and gas can be developed simultaneously with the preservation of our eco-system. America has the resources. We deserve the opportunity to develop our resources no less than the Brazilians. Millions of Americans know it is true: “Drill, baby, drill.” Alaska is proof you can drill and develop, and preserve nature, with its magnificent caribou herds passing by the Trans Alaska Pipeline System (TAPS), completely unaffected. One has to wonder if Obama is playing politics and perhaps refusing a “win” for some states just to play to the left with our money.

    The new Gulf of Mexico lease sales tomorrow sound promising and perhaps will move some states in the right direction, but we all know that the extreme environmentalists who serve to block progress elsewhere, including in Alaska, continue to block opportunities. These environmentalists are putting our nation in peril and forcing us to rely on unstable and hostile foreign countries. Mr. Obama can stop the extreme tactics and exert proper government authority to encourage resource development and create jobs and health benefits in the U.S.; instead, he chooses to use American dollars in Brazil that will help to pay the salaries and benefits for Brazilians to drill for resources when the need and desire is great in America.

    Buy American is a wonderful slogan, but you can’t say in one breath that you want to strengthen our economy and stimulate it, and then in another ship our much-needed dollars to a nation desperate to drill while depriving us of the same opportunity.

    – Sarah Palin

  182. samhenry says:

    Timely posts, Tellit. I am just down in my bunk in the hold and will be back in deck after a few winks. BBL

  183. VotingFemale says:


    Good For Pawlenty… and Stand By for the Socialist Personal Attacks on him.

  184. tellitlikeitis says:

    SH, I have believed all along the Soros is the puppet master behind the scenes. Obama has someone behind the scenes pulling his strings because he too dumb to come up with this sh^t all by himself. Obama is just a pitch man peddling socialism for his masters.

  185. VotingFemale says:

    There is No Doubt that Soros is in this up to his eyebrows. and Soros is a Communist by deed.

  186. samhenry says:

    Dog rouses from nap remembering that Tellit had said Obama needed to grow balls. In the 50s this would have been the grow balls anthem:

  187. tellitlikeitis says:

    I dedicate this song to our joke of a president.

  188. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good morning VF and SH! Just another day in the trenches with our fight against socialism.

  189. samhenry says:

    George Soros – Says one thing in February and another in August:



    And now in August:

    This article has been archived – no dollars to retrieve:

    US economy has bottomed: George Soros – August 12, 2009
    – 4:48am
    Aug 12, 2009 … NEW YORK – The US economy has hit bottom and the current quarter will see positive growth due to the government’s stimulus spending, …

  190. tellitlikeitis says:

    SH, The only thing I want Obama to grow is a skin flab that covers his lying mouth.

  191. tellitlikeitis says:

  192. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning my Fellow and Fellowette bloggers.
    VF, SamH, Tellit, and Fox, hope I did not miss anyone. Its a new day in America and the dream to stay free is alive and well on planet Earth.

  193. tellitlikeitis says:

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  195. samiam60 says:

    No surprise to us who are informed folks.


  196. tellitlikeitis says:

  197. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Sam!

  198. samiam60 says:

    Morning Tellit.

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  201. VotingFemale says:

    I am finishing up the new blogpost… will return with it post haste

  202. tellitlikeitis says:

  203. samhenry says:

    Sami and Karm – I left a couple of auto ads you will appreciate at the start of today. They are well before you both were born. Love, Granny.

  204. samiam60 says:

    SamH I was alive and well and really used to enjoy the Diana Shore show. I am old kiddo 🙂

  205. samhenry says:

    Well, misery doesn’t love company, SamH

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