Obama v Palin; Obama Blinks; Ready to drop ‘Public Option’; Way to Go Sarah!

We the Jury Find Obama Guilty of Socialism/Communism

We the Jury Find Obama Guilty of Socialism/Communism

Sarah Palin, in her latest article, is forcing Obama & Co to defend that which can not be rationally defended in the eyes of the Majority of Americans.

obama socialism jokerThe ‘Public Option’ is not an ‘option’ at all but a cleverly sneaky lowball crafted segway to Socialist Takeover of your very life via Domination of the Health Care of All Americans and Illegal Aliens living in the USA, now and in the future.

Illegal Aliens = Votes for Socialists

Lets take a look see at what is being reported on the Associated Press, SHALL WE?

White House appears ready to drop ‘public option’

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer Sun Aug 16, 7:36 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Bowing to Republican pressure and an uneasy public, President Barack Obama‘s administration signaled Sunday it is ready to abandon the idea of giving Americans the option of government-run insurance as part of a new health care system.

Facing mounting opposition to the overhaul, administration officials left open the chance for a compromise with Republicans that would include health insurance cooperatives instead of a government-run plan. Such a concession probably would enrage Obama’s liberal supporters but could deliver a much-needed victory on a top domestic priority opposed by GOP lawmakers.

Officials from both political parties reached across the aisle in an effort to find compromises on proposals they left behind when they returned to their districts for an August recess. Obama had wanted the government to run a health insurance organization to help cover the nation’s almost 50 million uninsured, but didn’t include it as one of his core principles of reform.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that government alternative to private health insurance is “not the essential element” of the administration’s health care overhaul. The White House would be open to co-ops, she said, a sign that Democrats want a compromise so they can declare a victory.

Under a proposal by Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., consumer-owned nonprofit cooperatives would sell insurance in competition with private industry, not unlike the way electric and agriculture co-ops operate, especially in rural states such as his own.

With $3 billion to $4 billion in initial support from the government, the co-ops would operate under a national structure with state affiliates, but independent of the government. They would be required to maintain the type of financial reserves that private companies are required to keep in case of unexpectedly high claims.

“I think there will be a competitor to private insurers,” Sebelius said. “That’s really the essential part, is you don’t turn over the whole new marketplace to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing.”

Obama’s spokesman refused to say a public option was a make-or-break choice.

“What I am saying is the bottom line for this for the president is, what we have to have is choice and competition in the insurance market,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday.

A day before, Obama appeared to hedge his bets.

“All I’m saying is, though, that the public option, whether we have it or we don’t have it, is not the entirety of health care reform,” Obama said at a town hall meeting in Grand Junction, Colo. “This is just one sliver of it, one aspect of it.”

It’s hardly the same rhetoric Obama employed during a constant, personal campaign for legislation.

“I am pleased by the progress we’re making on health care reform and still believe, as I’ve said before, that one of the best ways to bring down costs, provide more choices and assure quality is a public option that will force the insurance companies to compete and keep them honest,” Obama said in July.

Lawmakers have discussed the co-op model for months although the Democratic leadership and the White House have said they prefer a government-run option.

Conrad, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, called the argument for a government-run public plan little more than a “wasted effort.” He added there are enough votes in the Senate for a cooperative plan.

“It’s not government-run and government-controlled,” he said. “It’s membership-run and membership-controlled. But it does provide a nonprofit competitor for the for-profit insurance companies, and that’s why it has appeal on both sides.”

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said Obama’s team is making a political calculation and embracing the co-op alternative as “a step away from the government takeover of the health care system” that the GOP has pummeled.

“I don’t know if it will do everything people want, but we ought to look at it. I think it’s a far cry from the original proposals,” he said.

Republicans say a public option would have unfair advantages that would drive private insurers out of business. Critics say co-ops would not be genuine public options for health insurance.

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas, said it would be difficult to pass any legislation through the Democratic-controlled Congress without the promised public plan.

“We’ll have the same number of people uninsured,” she said. “If the insurance companies wanted to insure these people now, they’d be insured.”

Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., said the Democrats’ option would force individuals from their private plans to a government-run plan as some employers may choose not to provide health insurance.

“Tens of millions of individuals would be moved from their personal, private insurance to the government-run program. We simply don’t think that’s acceptable,” he said.

A shift to a cooperative plan would certainly give some cover to fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats who are hardly cheering for the government-run plan.

“The reality is that it takes 60 percent to get this done in the Senate. It’s probably going to have to be bipartisan in the Senate, which I think it should be,” said Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., who added that the proposals still need changes before he can support them.

Obama, writing in Sunday’s New York Times, said political maneuvers should be excluded from the debate.

“In the coming weeks, the cynics and the naysayers will continue to exploit fear and concerns for political gain,” he wrote. “But for all the scare tactics out there, what’s truly scary — truly risky — is the prospect of doing nothing.”

Congress’ proposals, however, seemed likely to strike end-of-life counseling sessions. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has called the session “death panels,” a label that has drawn rebuke from her fellow Republicans as well as Democrats.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, declined to criticize Palin’s comments and said Obama wants to create a government-run panel to advise what types of care would be available to citizens.

“In all honesty, I don’t want a bunch of nameless, faceless bureaucrats setting health care for my aged citizens in Utah,” Hatch said.

Sebelius said the end-of-life proposal was likely to be dropped from the final bill.

“We wanted to make sure doctors were reimbursed for that very important consultation if family members chose to make it, and instead it’s been turned into this scare tactic and probably will be off the table,” she said.

Sebelius spoke on CNN’s “State of the Union” and ABC’s “This Week.” Gibbs appeared on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” Conrad and Shelby appeared on “Fox News Sunday.” Johnson, Price and Ross spoke with “State of the Union.” Hatch was interviewed on “This Week.”


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Additional town hall protesters vs. elected officials articles:
Lone Star Times: Obama camp plants fake doc, Che fan at Jackson Lee forum
The American Spectator: Sheila Jackson Lee Is A Liar, And Not A Convincing One At That and Gallup Finds Independents Sympathize With Protesters
Scott’s Slant on Politics: Sheila Jackson-Lee is a moron
The Blog of Micah: Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee… just a phone call away…
Frugal Café Blog Zone: Dem Leader ‘Gone Wild’ – Embarrassing Video of Congressman David Scott’s Ranting at ObamaCare Town Hall and Runnin’ Scared: Democrats Not Handling ObamaCare Town Hall Protests Well… Some Hiding Out from Voters (video)
The Daley Gator: Sheila Jackson Lee a national disgrace
NewsReal: Who Are You Going to Believe, Sheila Jackson Lee or Your Lying Eyes?
Ed Driscoll: Sheila Jackson-Lee Phones It In
Patterico’s Pontifications:Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? and Roxana Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings
Doug Powers, Michelle Malkin: Town hall time for Obama and ‘the mob’
Hot Air: Who are your Milk Carton Politicians? and Video: Specter shocked, shocked to find individual mandate in ObamaCare
NewsBusters: Harry Reid Will Only Do Town Halls By Telephone, Media Mum
Moe Lane: Rep. Bishop, Boswell having health care meetings allllll the way over *there*
John T. Simpson, Big Hollywood: What if President Obama Were a Republican?
Michelle Malkin: Pretty sneaky, Congresswoman Bean and Obamacare/OFA stage props in Houston: “One is a Che Guevara fan and the other lies about being a doctor.” and Rep. Melissa Bean charging $25 entrance fee to town hall and The Etiquette Czar’s Rules for Patriotic Protest and Hey, go flag yourself! and Hey, Rep. Betsy Markey: You’re invited to a town hall meeting you refuse to hold! and Selective outrage of the MSM
Clinging to G & G: What if Conservatives have to go underground
Real Clear Politics:
Baron Hill Repeats “Political Terrorists” Line.
Stop Socialism Now: Sheila Jackson Lee Talks on Cell Phone During Town Hall Question…. Lies like Obama
Blog de KingShamus: More Plants: Roxana Mayer, Maria Isabel & the Sheila Jackson Lee town hall/greenhouse
Riehl World View: Dems To Libs: Get Under Obama’s Bus

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335 Responses to Obama v Palin; Obama Blinks; Ready to drop ‘Public Option’; Way to Go Sarah!

  1. VotingFemale says:

    I have got to run… hope to be on later today.

    Keep the pressure on Obama… his poll number have fallen further… check them out…

  2. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning VF and Karma!

  3. samhenry says:

    Good morning all and I see a cat tail in the distance and I will read her journal remains of the day. Don’t be gone more than 24 Great Cat. You are the pilot of the great info ship VF and without you, we go nowhere.

  4. karmahd says:

    Hey, and good morning, odd thing I was on facebook and someone tried to get into my computer, I had to hard crash the system

  5. samhenry says:

    That is frightening Karm. How did you know what was going on?

  6. samhenry says:

    And how do you hard crass the system?

  7. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Karma, How the weather where you are. Are you affected by the tropical storm?

  8. samiam60 says:

    Our US Citizen Sarah Palin seems to bringing about more Change than the Change President.
    Unfortunately for him it is Citizen Palin bringing his mis-deeds to light. Just imagine what Candidate Sarah Palin will do to this Corrupt Administration? You go Sarah, we are with you all the way.

  9. karmahd says:

    Hard crash=pulling the plug out of the wall!!

    Weather is good here, that storm pulled all the rain up north, I have to get out an cut my lawn soon!!

  10. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning Tellit, VF, SamH, and Karma, where are my manners this morning?

  11. karmahd says:

    SH, I have a bunch of stuff to alert me of an attack, but bottom line is, if someone wants to get in they can, so this computer is my blog computer and not much on it! My main computer, has a different IP, and identity.

  12. samhenry says:

    Karm what sign did you have that someone was trying to get into your computer.

  13. karmahd says:

    Hey Samster, Tellit, SH

  14. karmahd says:

    locked up, flashing, sites changing, scan recorded an intrusion, that was blocked, no worms or trojans that are know to the current software

  15. samiam60 says:

    Anyone wanting to give Sarah Palin a word of encouragement may do so at this site:

    http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/08/david-warren-palin-called-spade-spade.html

  16. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Karma , Sam , and SH.

  17. tellitlikeitis says:

    Former Gov. Dean calls public option indispensable

    By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 51 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – Former Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, a leading figure in the liberal wing of his party, said Monday he doubts there can be meaningful health care reform without a direct government role.

    Dean urged the Obama administration to stand by statements made early on in the debate in which it steadfastly insisted that such a public option was indispensable to genuine change, saying that Medicare and the Veterans Administration are “two very good programs that have been around for a long time.”

    Dean appeared on morning news shows Monday amid increasing indications the Obama White House is retreating from the public option in the face of vocal opposition from Republicans and some vocal participants at a town-hall-style meetings around the country.

    The former Vermont governor was asked on NBC’s “Meet the Press” about President Barack Obama’s statement over the weekend that the public option for insurance coverage was “just a sliver” of the overall proposal. Obama’s health and human services secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, advanced that line, telling CNN Sunday that a direct government role in a system intended to provide virtually universal coverage was “not the essential element.”

    Dean, a physician, argued that a public option is fair and said there must be such a choice in any genuine shake up of the existing system.

    “You can’t really do health reform without it,” he said. Dean maintained that the health insurance industry has “put enormous pressure on patients and doctors” in recent years.

    He called a direct government role “the entirety of health care reform. It isn’t the entirety of insurance reform … We shouldn’t spend $60 billion a year subsidizing the insurance industry.”

    Dean also said he doesn’t foresee any Republican support for a public option. “I don’t think the Republicans are interested and in order to have a bipartisan bill, you’ve got to have both sides interested,” he said.

    The shift in the administration’s stance on a government-run insurance program leaves open a chance for compromise with Republicans that probably would enrage Obama’s liberal supporters but could deliver a much-needed victory on a top domestic priority.

    Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., who is co-chairman of the Middle Class Caucus, said that “leaving private insurance companies the job of controlling the costs of health care is like making a pyromaniac the fire chief.”

    Officials from both political parties are looking for concessions while Congress is on an August recess. Facing tough audiences, lawmakers and the White House are looking for a way to cover the nation’s almost 50 million uninsured while maintaining political standing.

    Sebelius said the White House would be open to co-ops instead of a public option — a sign that Democrats want a compromise so they can declare a victory.

    Under a proposal by Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., consumer-owned nonprofit cooperatives would sell insurance in competition with private industry, not unlike the way electric and agriculture co-ops operate, especially in rural states such as his own.

    With $3 billion to $4 billion in initial support from the government, the co-ops would operate under a national structure with state affiliates, but independent of the government. They would be required to maintain the type of financial reserves that private companies are required to keep in case of unexpectedly high claims.

    “I think there will be a competitor to private insurers,” Sebelius said. “That’s really the essential part, is you don’t turn over the whole new marketplace to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing.”

    Obama’s spokesman refused to say a public option was a make-or-break choice.

    “What I am saying is the bottom line for this for the president is, what we have to have is choice and competition in the insurance market,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday.

    A day before, Obama appeared to hedge his bets.

    “All I’m saying is, though, that the public option, whether we have it or we don’t have it, is not the entirety of health care reform,” Obama said at a town hall meeting in Grand Junction, Colo. “This is just one sliver of it, one aspect of it.”

    Lawmakers have discussed the co-op model for months, although the Democratic leadership and the White House have said they prefer a government-run option.

    Conrad, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, called the argument for a government-run public plan little more than a “wasted effort.” He added there are enough votes in the Senate for a cooperative plan.

  18. tellitlikeitis says:

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Monday, August 17, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThisAdvertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 33% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -7

  19. samhenry says:

    INFOADDICT has a new video on iReport:

    Health Care Bill – What Worked Against the President.

    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-315469

  20. samiam60 says:

    This is not the America we envisioned all those many years ago. How is it that you became the Greatest Nation the World has ever known only to throw it all away because of fear.

    How dare you embrace Socialism and tax my people into poverty. How dare you remove our Creator from our citizens. How dare you hinder Free Speech, and divide this once Great Nation.

    America you need to return to the days of your sanity and once again stand up for the values that made this the Greatest Nation in the World. Return to the morals of your forefathers and stand strong and be brave. No one can defeat a nation that is unified and under God. Return America to your former self and be that light of Freedom for the whole World to see. Do not wait America, stand up and speak out against tyranny and corruption. Forsake what is Evil and replace it with what is Good.

    America does not need change, America needs to remember what made it Great and return to those things that we all stood for, Freedom.

  21. samhenry says:

    Sami – well said:

    America does not need change, America needs to remember

  22. Foxwood says:

    I’m having computer problems as well. Fixed most of them, but I can’t see embedded youtube vids. I can’t even get the URL of them. I can see vids at youtube, but not on any blog.

  23. m2 says:

    The White House is deploying an array of tactics to promote ObamaCare.

    Here’s the list to date.

    1. Warn about the cost of inaction. Or the, “Sure it’s expensive, but just think of how much it’ll cost if we don’t do anything!” argument. It’s a false dichotomy. Many of those who oppose Obamacare believe healthcare reform is in order – just not the nationalized medicine approach proposed by Obama and the Democrats.

    GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. President Obama appears to have fixed on a new strategy to counter what he has called fear-mongering by his opponents in the national health care debate: Try to convince the public that making no change would be scarier.

    2. Use Grandma to build empathy through association. Or the “I wouldn’t deny healthcare to the elderly for I once had a sick grandma, too” argument.

    GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. | President Obama for the first time invoked the death of his own grandmother to strike back against opponents of his health care plan who have tried to claim it would create government “death panels” to “pull the plug on grandma.”

    3. Accuse opponents of racial prejudice – play the race card. In an article entitled “Fear for Obama’s Safety Grows as Hate Groups Thrive on Racial Backlash,” ABC News alleged a link between racial prejudice and anti-Obamacare sentiments.

    Experts who track hate groups across the U.S. are growing increasingly concerned over violent rhetoric targeted at President Obama, especially as the debate over health care intensifies and a pattern of threats emerges.

    4. Shift the focus of the debate. The White House has shifted the focus away from the positive – improving healthcare for all Americans – to a negative – reining in the evil health insurance industry.

    5. When accused of having a controversial proposal, just say “No we don’t.” This tactic is popular with some Senators and Representatives when constituents push back against specific proposals in Obamacare. It’s the “No, it doesn’t say that” response. It’s dependent on tactic #6.

    6. Hide the plan. When the House version of the plan is criticized, just say that the Senate has a different version, but then don’t reveal that version. And, if you’re Obama, say, “Well, that’s not in my plan.” It’s all a shell game – plan, plan, who’s got the plan?

    7. Hide key congressional proponents. For example, Rep. Harry Teague (D. NM) is just one among those Democrat members of Congress hiding from their constituents during the recess. Callers asking to know his schedule are referred to the Congressman’s website for a list of town hall meetings on ObamaCare. His last “Harry in your hometown” event was August 8th. Where’s Harry now?

    Congressman Dennis Cardoza (D. CA.) is also hiding from his constituents. According to the Merced County News:

    Normally this is the one time of the year that we can expect to hear from our Congressman. Traditionally there are Town Hall meetings to give the constituents a one on one with their Congress in discussion of the various topics being debated on Capitol Hill. Our Congressman Dennis Cardoza says there will be no Town Hall meetings. He is not expected to return to Merced County over the summer recess.

    8. Pretend to give up on controversial issues that were never acknowledged in the first place. We’ve heard that the alleged Senate bill has omitted the controversial “death committee” provision that was never acknowledged to have existed in the first place. This offers the illusion of compromise.

    9. Hold pro-Obamacare pep rallies that profess to be open town hall-like events. Obama is reverting to the campaign style that brought him success during the election. Fill a room full of supporters, answer stacked questions, claim that support is widespread, and attempt to build positive momentum.

    10. Blame the media for focusing on the opponents. Since the legacy media is decidedly pro-Obama, this accusation doesn’t provoke their ire. It should, but it doesn’t.

    11. Demonize the opposition. This is, perhaps, the most consistent and frequently used tactic designed to weaken the opposition to Obamacare. Rush Limbaugh is accused of inflammatory language, and his alleged minions dutifully march into the contentious town hall meetings that surface on YouTube.

    12. Make false claims for Obamacare. This tactic is close to #5. It’s represents the dissemination of misinformation about the House bill, pertaining to the bill’s costs and provisions. This tactic provoked angry pushback at some town hall meetings. People had read the bill, while their congressional member clearly had not.

    So what other tactics are yet to be deployed?

  24. Foxwood says:

    Considering it was too easy to spam, I wondered how long it would last.

    Still working on project. Looking at shortening it up as SamH suggested. It is and is not about healthcare so speed is and isn’t a factor. More it’s about reforming Congress. It is way out of hand and even tho Healthcare is a major issue, more major issues will come down the road, so I must still carry it forward.

    Tea Parties and Town Hall meetings are still going to be the major factor for Healthcare. But even if it’s the best healthcare plan in the world and the government can run it better than the post office, it’s still unConstitutional.

  25. samiam60 says:

    Canadian Health Care system Sick and Imploding.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html

  26. Foxwood says:

    Where is Rose when this sh!t happens?

  27. tellitlikeitis says:

    My small tribute to a legend.

  28. m2 says:

    The mention of cooperatives triggered in my mind a Morning Bell Heritage Foundation report posted by Conn Caroll on August 6. In his post, Don’t Let Co-ops Become a Trojan Horse, Caroll has this to say:

    “But, don’t be fooled; Burkean little platoons are not what the Obama Administration and its allies in Congress have in mind. In liberal Washington today, leaders such as Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), are talking up co-ops that would be:

    Run by the government, preferably thefederal government

    Funded or subsidized by the government, or

    Includes plans chosen by the government.”

    Caroll goes on to say,

    “a co-op with any of these three features is obviously unacceptable. A real co-op is:

    Run by its members,

    Funded by its members and other private sources, and

    Controlled by its members.”

    Will leading legislators have in mind the right type of co-ops?

    The proof is in the pudding. I believe the American people have every right to be skeptical as to any abandonment of the public option, as a government-run health care system has long been a dream of the Democratic Party.

  29. m2 says:

    “Government insurance Co-ops? Co-ops are private, but the closest thing in government is quasi-private. Think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; same principle. How did that work out for us?”

  30. VotingFemale says:

    Duck & Cover comes to mind… lol

    Foxwood says

    Where is Rose when this sh!t happens?

  31. tellitlikeitis says:

  32. samiam60 says:

    I’ve got Rose here duck taped to a chair watching Sarah Palin Videos.

  33. m2 says:

    “The dems will protect the ambulance chasers and slip and fall lawyers to the bitter end.Trial lawyers are huge contributers to dems campaigns,They have a powerful lobbying force,The dems know lawyers are a huge reason for the crises through lawsuits,choking regulations,etc and see a crises as an oppurtunity.Therefor lawyers are helping to create opportunities.Add to that most pols are lawyers and the bills are written by lawyers and it’s easy to see why lawyers always come out winners.Without tort reform,specifically loser pays laws.calling this bill ”Healthcare Reform” is absurd”

  34. m2 says:

    “”Insurance companies can’t be trusted to do the right thing.” so says KS from KS. Apparently Health Secretary She-Bill-Us thinks the Government can be trusted to do the right thing. Like not read a bill, any of them, and just vote “aye” on the them. She’s a lawyer not a doctor and apparently a total lackey. Where’s the tort reform, She-Bill-Us?? Where’s some original thought? How come the health care debate isn’t being run through your office? Why aren’t you attacking the lawyers?? What a hypocrite she is. Apparently “Zeke” Emanuel has put down the law through Rahm. “Ration health care to babies born alive until they are 16. Then we can put the slaves to work.” Maybe She-Bill-Us should put some effort into controlling the band-aid industry. I hear they’re making too much money and they need more government oversight.”

  35. VotingFemale says:

    We need to tattoo her upper arm with…

    I HEART Sarah Palin!

  36. samiam60 says:

    I just finished the Reagan Tattoo. Will start the Sarah Palin Tattoo’ssssssss in a minuet.

  37. samiam60 says:

    OUCH, she bit me!

  38. samiam60 says:

    Gotta love the Rose, she is away visiting family for about a week. I know she knows we love her and fill the void of her absence with this stuff.

  39. m2 says:

    “This is only a trick to get a bill out of the Senate !!
    The House Bill already has a robust public option.
    Once the two bills go to conference, the FINAL version will likely include the public plan.
    A vote will be quickly called for in the dead of night.
    Obama will sign it the same day.”

    — the committee will be ‘secret’ as usual and they’ll put in everything, since all the bills are a loose framework.

    Glenn Beck had a great show on it, I watched on Saturday…

  40. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good afternoon everyone!
    Yes, Where has Rose been? Is she hiding from us? lol

  41. samiam60 says:

    This one is for you Rose:

  42. m2 says:

    I Will See Your Hitler, and Raise You a Holocaust
    By Harold Witkov

    They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare.
    – Nancy Pelosi (August 5, 2009)

    Table talk at a poker game can sure get out of hand when the healthcare stakes are high, and it all began with Nancy Pelosi on August 5. Much to my chagrin, however, Jewish organizations across America (American Jewish Congress, Anti-Defamation League, Simon Wiesenthal Center, etc.) have conveniently overlooked the galvanizing swastika table talk begun by Speaker Pelosi about average American citizens practicing their free speech rights at town hall healthcare meetings, and instead fallen into the familiar liberal line of condemnation for Rush Limbaugh. Leading the way on this front, in my opinion, has been the National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC).

    As a member of what the National Jewish Democratic Council refers to as a “small anti-Obama wing of the Jewish community,” I must call the NJDC to task. The facts are Nancy Pelosi, the same Speaker Pelosi who last May accused the CIA of “misleading the Congress,” started this recent Nazi finger pointing mess. Rush Limbaugh added to the volatile table talk on August 6, and upped the ante with his ongoing comparisons of Germany’s National Socialism under Hitler to that of the Democrat’s national healthcare agenda. The National Jewish Democratic Council, also seated at the poker table, then specifically accused Mr. Limbaugh of abusing “the memory of the Holocaust,” and started a control-Limbaugh petition drive demanding he stop dirtying the memory of millions of Holocaust victims.

    We in the Jewish community, like all Americans, are having enough problems trying to figure out the various 1,000-page reform bills floating around Congress. We do not want to be distracted from our mission. We do not enjoy distracting table talk, and we certainly do not need the NJDC or anyone else to confuse the issues by starting a new card game of their own called, I’ll see your Hitler, and raise you a Holocaust.

    To be sure, Mr. Limbaugh is a key leader in the conservative movement, and as such, I can understand why liberals stand against him. However, when it comes to Israel, it is important that all Jews should understand that, whether they are liberal or conservative, there is none more committed to a strong Israel than Mr. Limbaugh. One only has to listen to him speak about Israel to know he stands solidly with the tiny nation. I say this from personal experience. One day, while I was riding in my car (during the Clinton years) I was arbitrarily going through the various radio stations when I came upon the most inspirational speaker I had ever heard regarding the State of Israel. Articulating the need to avoid legitimizing Arab terrorists like Arafat, he made the case that America’s most important mission in the Middle East should be to support democracy and our democratic ally, Israel. As I listened, I wondered who this Jewish man could be that so profoundly described Israel’s history, people and vulnerable situation. As it turned out, he was not a landsman. He was Rush Limbaugh.

    Knowing how committed Mr. Limbaugh is to the State of Israel, I find it very painful to hear liberal Jews denigrate a man so committed to Israel while they applaud the President, whose loyalty to the Jewish nation becomes more and more questionable every day. Now I find myself sorely disappointed to hear different Jewish organizations chastising the recent Rush Limbaugh commentaries while overlooking Nancy Pelosi’s “They’re carrying swastikas” diatribe.

    Perhaps now would be a good time for all Americans to move away from the distracting table talk of swastikas, Nazis, and the Holocaust, and instead concentrate on the real game in town: President Obama’s sleight-of-hand healthcare reform shell game.

  43. tellitlikeitis says:

    You know this administration has perfected the art of deception. You can’t believe any of the lies that come out of this whitehouse.

  44. karmahd says:

    Rose is on the Right coast this week with family

  45. m2 says:

    Hi VF, and Sam and Tellit!!!
    and Fox and SH if they are still here.

    Have been busy myself…

    Tellit, Charles Kraughthammer said that Obama has the potential of becoming a lame duck president, “unheard of” he said, 3.5 years out from the end of his administration. It made me laugh heartily. Why you ask? Because the man is surely going to pass this beast one way or another and he will be HATED by much more than those who knew what he was before he was bought the Presidency (a la self-serving power-elite, foreign and domestic and radical Communist-agenda groups)

    Yet there’s still the 2013 before it goes into effect… evil people there on Capitol Hill. Full of LIES and TRICKERY.

  46. m2 says:

    Hi Karma too!

  47. VotingFemale says:

    Yeah… we are dragging her kicking and screaming out of the brain trap of Pelosi and Obama. They are EVIL.

    DEVIL BEGONE!

    ROFL

    samiam60 says

    Gotta love the Rose, she is away visiting family for about a week. I know she knows we love her and fill the void of her absence with this stuff.

  48. m2 says:

    lol! So Canada’s system is dead. France’s is on the way out. And Britons want to dismantle the “archaic” National Health Service. So wait, how are Liberals/Democrats considered “progressive”???? LOL!!!

    samiam says: Canadian Health Care system Sick and Imploding.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html

  49. VotingFemale says:

    Hi M2! you Socialist Hating Convervative Bitch Birther! hahahaha

  50. VotingFemale says:

    Obutthole is a dollar short and a day late… just like he was with the Iraq war…

    AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    m2 says

    lol! So Canada’s system is dead. France’s is on the way out. And Britons want to dismantle the “archaic” National Health Service. So wait, how are Liberals/Democrats considered “progressive”???? LOL!!!

  51. karmahd says:

    I say HEAL heathen liberal devil worshiper HEAL I say!!!!!

  52. samhenry says:

    Hi – now the Prez is contradicting his Secretary of health (mental at this point) by saying that public health is NOT off the table. This administration doesn’t know what the H it is doing. It is the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. I think that Joe Biden is in his secure area hoping it will all go away.

    In Arizona where the Prez just spoke, there is an open gun law and people showed up with assault rifles. Nice. We live in a country that really makes sense.

  53. VotingFemale says:

    Sarah Palin is likely to be 2 and 0… life sucks, huh Obutthole?

  54. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma, I don’t know if I would call the east coast the right coast. The left wing lunatics from New England, NY and NJ are just as bad as the ones on the left coast.

  55. samhenry says:

    Horray – the CAT to save us this hot day! The country went down the tubes in the time you were away. It isn’t just the blog that suffers. Quick, chain her to her throne.

  56. VotingFemale says:

    lol Karma!

    Perhaps you should become a Socialist Healer!

    Go among the Obama Flock and bring them out the Socialist path to HELL

  57. samiam60 says:

    VF says:

    Hi M2! you Socialist Hating Convervative Bitch Birther! hahahaha

    Samiam says, stop my sides hurt from laughing so hard.

  58. karmahd says:

    SH there is no way any gun got near the president regardless of any gun laws. The SS would not allow that! Did you see pictures of that, if so Oboneo will have to change his shorts!!!

  59. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sorry VF, I believe you said you live in Mass. I wasn’t slamming you. lol

  60. karmahd says:

    I will heal them like I make a dog heal!!!!

  61. VotingFemale says:

    BTW, the hate commenting for this blog from the SORE LOSERS on the left keeps going UP.

    That is a bellweather indicator of their ANGER at the Hosing Down Obutthole is getting in the POLLS and from Saint Sarah, the Patron Saint of Barracudas!

  62. m2 says:

    Hi yourself you freedom-loving, Capitalist, Lives over ‘Life Years’, Zionist “I’m against Obama’s nation killing policies because I’m naturally a “Racist”, not because he’s a walking Marxist Lie with an installed shadow gov’t of Communists and Eugenicists and crooks!!”… Good to see you.

  63. tellitlikeitis says:

    Isn’t it funny we call our secret service the SS. It kind of reminds you in a way of someting else from history.

  64. m2 says:

    ahhh got some duties… will bbl!!

  65. karmahd says:

    M2 my Maoist hating friend you are correct, HEAL I say HEAL

  66. VotingFemale says:

    I keep blocking the comments from Obutthole’s Sheep… but I find it highly amusing to read some of their Rants and fits of anger…

    awwwww…. poor pitiful little Obutthole sheepies…

    baaaaaaa BAAAAA

  67. tellitlikeitis says:

    Most New Englanders I know are ok if they haven’t been bitten by the liberal bug.

  68. m2 says:

    Obama’s new petname is Obeyme…
    it goes fitting with his campaign/presidency propaganda.

  69. karmahd says:

    Tellitlikeitis, I have a little inside on the SS, and they are doing there duty, and that is all when it comes to Obonehead. Lets just say some presidential duty is better than others…

  70. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit,

    Actually it is the USSS… but ‘Secret Service’ is a damn weird name for those who protect the President… damn weird…

  71. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, you should post a few just for entertainment value.

  72. samhenry says:

    Karm – believe it – They had video of the thing. There were several men with the assault rifles – one pro the other con Obama. They were not arrested; they were detained outside the hall. It was unreal – in fact – this whole world is unreal these days. Did you see my post here that a commentator under my post today said Great Britain is going to assassinate Obama. That the F is going on.

  73. VotingFemale says:

    I wonder what they call Obutthole behind his back…

    AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  74. VotingFemale says:

    lets see…

    President Stoner and the First Bitch

  75. karmahd says:

    Well the great “uniter” has done just the opposite, like all of his other promises, they were cheap rhetoric and nothing more, I have to find this, a family friend is with the SS, and from the stories he has told me, no guns but theres for miles

  76. samiam60 says:

    Hey all, the Secret Service is a very tuff job to get into. I heard tell you need to provide your Long Form Birth Certificate just to get interviewed.

  77. karmahd says:

    well it sure as hell is not Eagle One

  78. karmahd says:

    Sammie, it did not help me I was rejected LOL

  79. samiam60 says:

    Speaking of Birther Bitches, does anyone know if she is pregnant?

  80. karmahd says:

    had something to do with some juvenile stuff with some damn plant…I found out later, oh well, look at all the success I would be passing up in banking LOL

  81. tellitlikeitis says:

    I have a funny feeling that Obama is going to eventually replace Nixon as the most hated president.

  82. karmahd says:

    is who pregnant??

  83. tellitlikeitis says:

  84. samhenry says:

    Maybe we are at a point where doctors will be cut lose from a public system and we will all be treated by PA’s. Cutting those high salaries will be critical to controlling costs – like corporate CEO salaries. The government will take over the private insurance companies when they are no longer competitive. What percentage of the entire economy will they control at that point? The drug companies will move offshore to avoid takeover. Microsoft will also relocate.

    Where will the doctors, insurance co ceos go? Mars where they are confident that even if lichens are ruling the planet that they will be more supportive.

  85. samiam60 says:

    Karma I could just see it now if you had got in and was assigned to Obama. Roflmao

  86. karmahd says:

    TORT reform, Tort reform, HEAL tort reform HEAL I SAY

  87. karmahd says:

    I would joke about that, but won’t but yes it would be odd, hell I would be retiring in 3 years, and am too old for presidential duty, but I could be a driver LOL

  88. samhenry says:

    Well one of the Kardashian sisters is pregnant. They are typical of our society today. You wander around the world looking for average people with average intelligence and book them on a reality show. I tell you things are unreal. I’m going to live in underground with the worms.

  89. karmahd says:

    From the Anti Gun nuts

    Bringing loaded firearms to any Presidential event endangers all in attendance. Even though our weak national and state gun laws may allow this dangerous behavior, we should use a little common sense. Individuals carrying loaded weapons at these events require constant attention from police and Secret Service officers, thus stretching their protective efforts even thinner. The possibility that these weapons might be grabbed or stolen or accidently mishandled increases the risks of serious injury or death to all in attendance.

  90. VotingFemale says:

    No one better lay a finger on a single hair on his head… that is the LAST DAMN THING WE NEED… is a Socialist Martyr Michael-Jackson-Worship-o-thon that will last a hundred years.

    Obutthole needs to live to be a ripe and old age… and to witness daily, the massive setback he has brought to the DEM party with his Arrogant FIGJAM Communist Bull Sh*t… and his dismissal as someone who should have never been given the nomination at the cost of throwing Hillary under the Bus.

    Stupid bastards…

    samhenry says

    Karm – believe it – They had video of the thing. There were several men with the assault rifles – one pro the other con Obama. They were not arrested; they were detained outside the hall. It was unreal – in fact – this whole world is unreal these days. Did you see my post here that a commentator under my post today said Great Britain is going to assassinate Obama. That the F is going on.

  91. samiam60 says:

    Well I’ll betcha Eli Lilly has pumped up production of they’re Pain Killers for Gramma.

    I could just see the ad now:

    Grandma’s Oxicoton, not just your Grandma’s happy hour anymore.

  92. karmahd says:

    I’m going to live in underground with the worms.

    SamHenry we will be worm chow soon enough LOL

  93. samhenry says:

    This is off subject. I have to relent and repent. Sarah Palin – very good post VF. It kept the conversation going for a long time. OOOOOh where did she go. I was not recognized or greeted; I did not get hugs, I don’t like smooches from a Cat but I know those here who do.

  94. karmahd says:

    Grannyludes, a time to relax by Bayer

  95. VotingFemale says:

    Karma?

    Smooch for you dear!

  96. samhenry says:

    Karm – I love it when the wormies nip my toes. It tickles.

  97. tellitlikeitis says:

    SH, How can Great Britain do that? They have no guns. lol

  98. samhenry says:

    I will give you the Larouche website – hold on. It’s crazy but the point is that his Kardashian worshiping society will take it to heart.

  99. karmahd says:

    Smooch back VF, and bear hugs for the rest of ya!!

  100. samiam60 says:

    They will send in Austin Powers.

  101. samiam60 says:

    No one in their right mind would ever want to hurt Obama. Most will enjoy watching him suffer a lot more as a lame duck.

  102. tellitlikeitis says:

  103. karmahd says:

    This is all I get when I search and consider the source, MSCSA

  104. samhenry says:

    Mind you these are crazies and I reported the link on my blog and it was removed. None of this makes sense to me but then I don’t like the Kardashions.

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2008/3544brit_assass_obama.html

    http://www.silobreaker.com/larouche-it-is-time-to-declare-war-5_2262467871424643087

  105. tellitlikeitis says:

  106. samhenry says:

    Karm – this happened about an hour ago in Arizona.

    When you search something that happens on a day, search with the date of the day

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/17/man-carrying-semi-automat_n_261279.html

  107. VotingFemale says:

    Sarah PalinBarack Obama is a vacuous, demagogic, ideologue who has never had an original, much comprehensible thought of his own in his whole life and Michelle is nothing more than a untattooed version of Jeane Garafalo. The scare tactics being used by Obama and Pelosi and those who are for health care reform are shameful. Pelosi and her soul-mate, Barack Obama, are blatant liars who routinely pick up on every rumor there is about the bills in Congress, never bothering to get the real facts about any of them and conveniently ignoring key passages which don’t suit their opportunistic agendas.

    These people are so angry that the country does not bow down a black president because he is black that they are willing to say just about anything, no matter how false, to get the minorities and hippies up in arms. Before anybody listens to a word any of these people has to say about any subject, especially health care reform, they should visit a mental health facility. There, they will see how many “Pants-On-Fire” awards these so-called idiots have been awarded for telling outright lies that have been designed to incite uninformed, gullible people on the left.

    The fact is, the status quo of medical care in this country is acceptable. The United States is now first in the world in health care quality, despite other countries spending nearly twice as much on of the GDP and with even lower life expectancy after the Socialist BS spin on the numbers is filtered out. They want to SCARE people with “The Health care costs are spiraling higher” to ramrod their Socialist Take Over of the Country all the while make billions in hidden deals and profits each year.

    The flip side is that millions of hard-working Americans will go bankrupt if they are forced to pay the taxes needed to fund ObamaCare, and that is the plan. Nearly 50 million people in this country will charge their medical care to folks who can not afford to pay it. Just whom do these Socialists think already pays for the care uninsured people when they visit an emergency room? The Tooth Fairy? Who picks up the tab when people go bankrupt? The Obama Easter Bunny?

    The fact is, the more people who are covered by medical insurance waste is reduced and medical malpractice insurance cost are brought to a rational level, the more people affordable health services becomes. The GOP has a plan to do that but the Socialists want to bankrupt the country instead.

    Sarah Palin publicly stated two weeks ago that Obama’s plan had “death panels”. She was was correct and she forced Obama to pull the death panel crap out of the bill. God help us all if the Socialists get their way with ObamaCare.

  108. samhenry says:

    Now you have resources for all I have said in the last hour – hugs CAT

  109. tellitlikeitis says:

  110. samiam60 says:

    Humpty Bomma sat on a wall. You know the rest.

  111. samhenry says:

    Well bust my myth but Canada is overhauling their health insurance to include private insurance. Really this day is out of control. News breaking is like a fish flipping in the end of a line.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/16/ap-canada-considering-healthcare-overhaul-private-insurance

  112. samhenry says:

    The great Cat has said:

    Sarah PalinBarack Obama is a vacuous, demagogic, ideologue who has never had an original, much comprehensible thought of his own in his whole life and Michelle is nothing more than a untattooed version of Jeane Garafalo. The scare tactics being used by Obama and Pelosi and those who are for health care reform are shameful.

    VF – could this be an intellectual menage a trois? Clearly none of the parties has any compassion for another person. I can imagine when they find a mirror, the three of them fight to use it first.

  113. karmahd says:

    OK I watched the vid with the black guy with the AR, actually it looked more like a CAR 15, all I have to say, remember the child who was planted to ask Obama the health care question, this is a publicity stunt to further the efforts of gun control. Let’s find out the back story on the guys with the guns, I think it will be interesting to get to the true motive of this. The Kardashians, not much to say, just another group of vapid narcissists totally out of touch with real life!!

  114. samhenry says:

    Face it, most black leaders today are not the same level of greatness of their predecessors. They would not march in support of anything. They are too busy lunching with their upscale friends at trendy DC restaurants discussing policy in public. Meanwhile their white lackeys are back at the White House writing the text of their next speeches.

  115. tellitlikeitis says:

    No Government-Run Health Insurance, No Bill, Say Liberal Supporters of Reform
    The Obama administration appears to be stepping back from its insistence on a government-run health insurance plan, earning new wrath from the left as the president tries to appease vocal opponents of a “public option.”

    Momentum behind a new government-run health care plan appeared to slow considerably Sunday, as a lead Democratic negotiator called the option a “wasted effort” and President Obama’s health secretary suggested the White House is ready to accept a health care reform package without it.

    Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., one of six negotiators trying to hammer out a bipartisan compromise measure on the Senate Finance Committee, told “FOX News Sunday” that the so-called public option simply does not have the votes to pass.

    “The fact of the matter is there are not the votes in the United States Senate for the public option. There never have been,” he said. “So to continue to chase that rabbit I think is just a wasted effort.”

    Conrad and other negotiators on the finance committee are instead pushing a system of nonprofit insurance cooperatives, as an alternative to the public plan.

    “Co-ops are very prevalent in our society,” Conrad said. “They’ve been a very successful business model.”

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius also told CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday that a public option is “not the essential element” in reform legislation.

    The White House indicated it could jettison the contentious public option and settle on insurance cooperatives as an acceptable alternative.

    “I think there will be a competitor to private insurers,” Sebelius said. “That’s really the essential part, is you don’t turn over the whole new marketplace to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing. We need some choices, we need some competition.”

    The statement comes after Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said last week that he’s “open” to a bill with no public option.

    The finance committee is the last of five committees to consider such legislation.

    Conrad had previously cast doubt on the chances that a public option could ever pass the full Senate. But with opposition to Democrats’ bill growing, other top officials are starting to leave wiggle room for legislation that does not include the option as Conrad and other negotiators push hard for a co-op system.

    As proposed by Conrad, the co-ops would receive federal startup money, but then would operate independently of the government. They would have to maintain the same financial reserves that private companies are required to keep to handle unexpectedly high claims.

    The idea has met a mixed reaction among Republicans.

    On Sunday, Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said a co-op system would be a step in the right direction.

    “We ought to look at it. I think it’s a far cry from the original proposals,” he told “FOX News Sunday.”

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday that the “bottom line” for the president is “choice and competition in the insurance market.”

    “The president has thus far sided with the notion that that can best be done through a public option,” Gibbs said.

  116. samhenry says:

    Bingo Karm about the Kardashians. I was looking for somebody in the continental US who was on to this group and you win. The prize is in the mail. It is a pink flamingo for your lawn to express your class and charm.

  117. samhenry says:

    VF – I send you a smooch. I was just being hard to be pleasant.

  118. karmahd says:

    For Christs sake get Robert Reich a phone book to sit on!! He looks like a talking head!!!

    Beck is on in that video, and covered many of the names in my last post!

    Obama is a Maoist, he fits the definition perfectly!!

  119. karmahd says:

    Samhenry, we have a saying about people who put “Pink Flamingos” in there front yard. Go back home LOL

  120. samhenry says:

    Reich is like that head in the box that ed sullivan show senor wences used to take on the Ed Sullivan show:

  121. karmahd says:

    OK it is the Karm and Sam show, time to clean up from trimming the flamingo wings in the front yard!

  122. karmahd says:

    Topo Giggo off to the showers

  123. samhenry says:

    VF – you have said

    The fact is, the status quo of medical care in this country is acceptable.

    And that is true. Where I live, medical records are automated, etc. I have a friend who works for an agency that provides information about health care to institutions, etc. Someone from the Obama administration is to come to Rochester to discuss our picture here. We are slowly heading back to where we were under Eisenhower Secretary of State’s plan for us during his retirement. It was masterful.

  124. samhenry says:

    Rochester was a national model of health care. We are still a model in our state and somewhat nationally.

    Rochester: Health Care

    Rochester’s health system remains a model for success, with an uninsured population well below state and national rates and better-than-average access to medical and dental care. Cooperation between large employers and health care providers kept costs low through the 1990s; although this structure is less evident today, statistics indicate Rochester citizens have a higher satisfaction level with their health system than most of the nation.

    Strong Health is the largest health care provider in Rochester, with a network of hospitals, outpatient services and community clinics across upstate New York. The 750-bed Strong Memorial Hospital is its flagship facility, consistently ranking among the nation’s top hospitals in an annual survey by U.S. News and World Report. Strong Memorial offers highly specialized services, such as a heart transplant unit, and a 24-hour emergency department. Other facilities include Highland Hospital, known for its women’s services, joint center, and gastric bypass program; and Golisano Children’s Hospital, one of the nation’s leading pediatric hospitals. Strong Health is affiliated with the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry and the School of Nursing.

    Other health care providers in the area include Rochester General Hospital, a 526-bed acute care teaching hospital; Park Ridge Hospital, a 521-bed non-profit hospital recognized for its quality Intensive Care Unit; and Monroe Community Hospital, a 566-bed long-term care facility.

    Health Care Information: Monroe County Medical Society, 1441 East Avenue, Rochester, NY 14610; telephone (585)473-7573

    Cite this article
    Pick a style below, and copy the text for your bibliography.

  125. samhenry says:

    CAT – did you see my comment here where the Canadian system of health care is up for review and will include more private elements. There goes one leg of Obama’s health care argument.

  126. VotingFemale says:

    Hugs and Salutations on Mighty SamHenry… warrior with a pen.

    samhenry says

    This is off subject. I have to relent and repent. Sarah Palin – very good post VF. It kept the conversation going for a long time. OOOOOh where did she go. I was not recognized or greeted; I did not get hugs, I don’t like smooches from a Cat but I know those here who do.

  127. VotingFemale says:

    Canada.. proves that no one can grow money on trees…

    the socialists are brain dead, SamHenry.

  128. VotingFemale says:

    How about Scared Sober… from the 2008 win high…

    They are going to be ground up into Political confetti for Sarah Palin’s Hero Parade.

    samiam60 says

    DEMONCRATS ARE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT 2010 ELECTION.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/17/zelizer.democrats.obama/index.html

  129. samhenry says:

    VF – it appears that the White House PR machine that never sleeps and always shifts gears will further lose focus as we draw closer to the election. I think their 2008 reliance on cyberspace may have run its course. Lately with glitches (and snitches) it smacks of big brother. The 1600 crew will have to get moving and press the flesh and hope for those photo ops that guarantee a thousand words. If image is everything, stay off the computer; back away from those letters and give the American public pictures. All of their reading material from Life Magazine on up is small text; large pictures. They should remember that keeping Joe Biden out of the picture has been very effective. A lock on Nancy Pelosi’s dressingroom door would go a long way to keep on message. They are really down to Barack and Michele to keep on message. They just don’t seem to be able to handle the cabinet and others to whom the delegate the message. This will come to haunt them. Then again, it may be a case of good cop/bad cop. Who the H knows. The White House loves to play fox with the press and the people. And that is another important point. They are a slick group and Americans don’t like slick. They generally shop LLBean.

  130. samhenry says:

    Thanks for the compliment about my writing, VF. It’s the mouth that needs a little work. I’m getting tired of my own voice on CNN. My age shows. I can’t get the message out in a zippy fashion for easy fast consumption.

  131. samhenry says:

    The ole dawg has to jump ship and tend to the others in the kennel. Imp the terrier is shredding paper under my feet – pulling paper from the waste basket without fear; Sam Henry is licking me all over in a way that makes you want to hop in the shower. Two ways of gaining attention: annoyance and love overdrive. It kind of reminds me of our President. When he uses the “I” word, he is annoying; when he talks about his grandmother – he goes into love overdive causing crocodile tears to fall on the teleprompter. Laters VF So glad you are around. Everyone is in tip top shape when you are here – doing their best work. You are very important.

  132. samhenry says:

    Sami – excellent article by the Princeton Professor. I am more trusting of Princeton speak.

  133. samhenry says:

    This student who the other day challenged the President to an Oxford Style Debate, was on CNN a moment ago. He is a Conservative! He jumped on the McCain bandwagon when Sarah Palin signed on. Below is the video from the town hall in which he challenged the President. Tonight he refined his position by saying that when the President mentioned the fact the the Post Office did not compete well with Fedex and UPS, he was comparing apples and oranges. FedX and UPS do not carry mail; the government subsidizes the mail service. A sound business head on the shoulders of a good conservative student! Hail to the thief of the event!

  134. karmahd says:

    Happy news, unemployment will recover to 6% IN TEN YEARS!!!!!, jeeze just about time to retire I will be able to get a job!!

  135. VotingFemale says:

    The American people have had a belly full of Obama and his bully tactics… and that bodes ill for the DEMs who are lining up with him and running for reelection…

    I would not bet a buck on any of them getting reelected… and that is how it goes with We the People.

    samhenry says

    VF – it appears that the White House PR machine that never sleeps and always shifts gears will further lose focus as we draw closer to the election. I think their 2008 reliance on cyberspace may have run its course.

  136. VotingFemale says:

    Ten whole years? It will never recover if the Socialists are left in charge.

    That is why they are going to be drop kicked out of office. Ain’t it going to be sweet! HEEEEE HAWWWW Ridem CowGirl!

    karmahd says

    Happy news, unemployment will recover to 6% IN TEN YEARS!!!!!, jeeze just about time to retire I will be able to get a job!!

  137. VotingFemale says:

    All Obutthole knows how to do is campaign… and people have had a belly full of his crap.

  138. karmahd says:

    I found Becks program and the challenges of small business enlightening, how the hell can you open and run a business if your taxes are 54% of your gross income?? That is pure BS!!

  139. karmahd says:

    anyone who knows even basic accounting can see that what is the lift? Why bother if the government is going to take the money and spend 700 million on wild horses in the west?? Or turtles in Florida, and I lean to the left on ecology!!! And I think that is just stupid, 2010 will be a “GREAT AWAKENING”, and 2012 will follow with the new American Renaissance!! (the French did contribute something) he he

  140. yeah, VF We hope people have had a belly full of his crap!

    Illegals = Socialist Votes (NO KIDDING)

    Doggoneit, and he’s so freaking creepy!

  141. ohiobelle says:

    Hello everybody. Somebody has been trying some new things with my computer and I don’t think I am going to have anymore problems.

    Sorry for logging on so late. Hopefully now I’ll be around alot more.

  142. ohiobelle says:

    I love it! It took me less than a minutes to log on and comment. I might just sit here and talk to myself for a while.. lol

  143. ohiobelle says:

    Oh I see… everybody is watching The Factor. haha

    I’ll check in at commerical.

  144. samhenry says:

    Sami that dog vid is priceless. If you take something from Barack Obama HE will bite you.

  145. ohiobelle says:

    SamH, isn’t wonderful that my computer is up and running!! All it took was them taking down flag@WH… It all started when I got flagged and ended the day they took it down.

  146. ohiobelle says:

    I am only saying…. lol

  147. ohiobelle says:

    I am going to call it an early night. I’ll check back tomorrow.

  148. m2 says:

    I thought Newsweek (media) and Obeyme said the recession was over!! Don’t tell me that was ANOTHER pathetic lie to pass Socialism (ie. healthcare insurance reform)… HA HA HA HA HA

    Stocks Drop in Global Pullback; U.S. Economy Is Still Sputtering
    U.S. stocks plunged Monday as investors became caught up in a global sell-off that undermined recent glimmers of economic hope and left investors and traders wondering whether the summer rally had run out of steam.

    The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 186.06 points, or 2 percent, to 9135.34, erasing its August gains. It was the blue chips’ biggest one-day drop since July 2. The broader Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index fell 24.36 points, or 2.4 percent, to 979.73, while the tech-heavy Nasdaq composite index closed down 54.68 points, or 2.8 percent, at 1930.84.

    All three indicators have risen at least 40 percent, with the Nasdaq leading the way, since hitting their lows in early March bottoms. Investors had been expecting a pullback — especially considering the underlying weakness of an economy still in recession.

    “Whether it’s the facts catching up with the expectations or the expectations catching up with the facts, I’m not sure which,” said Bill Stone, chief investment strategist for PNC Wealth Management.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/17/AR2009081701198.html?hpid=topnews

  149. m2 says:

    FoxNews poll: 72% want stimulus money back
    Some discouraging poll numbers for Obama from FoxNews via Hot Air:

    Americans don’t trust Obama: 69% expect him to break his promise not to raise taxes on the middle class. And almost three quarters want their stimulus money back.

    Regarding the latest Rasmussen numbers, Nile Gardiner writes that Obama wishes he were as popular as Bush:

    The latest Rasmussen Reports Daily Presidential Tracking Poll is a significant blow to President Obama’s flailing presidency, just 7 months since taking office. According to Rasmussen, a highly influential pollster, Obama’s approval rating now stands at just 47 per cent, with 52 per cent disapproval, and 37 per cent strongly disapproving.

    At the same time in his first presidency in August 2001, George W. Bush’s approval ratings stood at around 55-59 per cent in most major polls, with roughly 35-38 per cent disapproval. It was not until Spring 2004 that Bush’s ratings were as low as Obama’s figures in today’s Rasmussen poll – more than three years into his first term of office.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/13/fox-news-poll-69-now-expect-obama-to-break-promise-about-not-raising-taxes/

  150. Foxwood says:

    I take a nap before I have to leave for the night and I miss all of the fun. I gotta nap for a couple of more hours before I go to work tonight.

  151. samhenry says:

    So sorry you have to work tonight, FOX. Take care. I’m off to do a little house work before hitting the sheets. See you tomorrow.

  152. tellitlikeitis says:

  153. karmahd says:

    Looks like Specter opened his pie hole and called the protesters at his town hall meeting “not representative of America” IE; right wing nut bags, all I have to say is thanks for switching parties!!! You have found a home with the Democrats!

  154. tellitlikeitis says:

  155. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma, Specter better start making retirement plans. He will be toast in 2010.

  156. karmahd says:

    No jobs for 10 years, I wonder if anyone is hiring concubines? Or I might be Tom Delays stand in on Dancing with the Stars, or hey how about an internet spammer, yeah that’s it!

  157. karmahd says:

    Yeah Tellit, he did not have a chance as a Republican, and he is not impressing too many of his constituents with his switch to Democrat. Let’s see he will get hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit at home from the US government, all I can get is $275 a week for that!

  158. karmahd says:

    I wonder if I can get a stimulus loan?

  159. karmahd says:

    http://www.hud.gov/news/release.cfm?content=pr09-155.cfm

    In the middle of the greatest housing crisis know to man, we have Carrot Top (Donavan) using his great powers to do this??? Brilliant, just brilliant!!!

  160. karmahd says:

    You know I like talking to myself, hello Karma, what do you think about the housing crisis, Karma, hello Karma, duoooooooop, BEEEER>>>>

    OK I am done

  161. karmahd says:

    White House says it did send unwanted e-mails

  162. tellitlikeitis says:

  163. karmahd says:

    http://www.hud.gov/news/release.cfm?content=pr09-152.cfm

    Ok I am on a roll, HUD’s Tee Pee and Igloo plan to turn around the housing market.

  164. tellitlikeitis says:

  165. LisaInTX says:

    Here is Tom Hayden….Mr. Progressives for Obama himself, who demonized and helped set the rabid dogs of war on Sarah Palin!!!
    Wonder how he feels about his ‘chosen one’ now????

  166. LisaInTX says:

    Thanks Karma and Tellit….going to read the article now…brb

  167. LisaInTX says:

    Here is Hannity and Gibbs battle….even here, Gibbs was a jerk. He thought he was right and smug by trying to hold Hannity accountable for another’s statements, yet would not answer the questions that Hannity presented….no WONDER Obama picked this idiot for his press sec….LMAO….

  168. LisaInTX says:

    oopps…sorry….try the video above…

  169. LisaInTX says:

    Here is what Hayden will be singing real soon!!!! He is one of those stepping stones that Obama needed to get elected!

  170. Foxwood says:

    Written in 1929 by Memphis Minnie
    about the 1927 flood of the Mississippi

  171. Foxwood says:

    More Led for your head.

  172. Foxwood says:

    The Rain Song
    The strings were played on a electro-mechanical, polyphonic keyboard called a mellotron.

  173. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!

  174. tellitlikeitis says:

  175. samhenry says:

    “more Led for your head” – lol FOX.

    Great new post, Lisa.

    I was so enraged at the statements of Rep. Weiner from NY I was moved to write a new post – Rep Weiner Threatens Democratic Process

  176. samhenry says:

    Good vids per usual Tellit

    Need a few more zzzzzzzzzzz. BBL

  177. tellitlikeitis says:

    You guys gotta watch this!

  178. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is a must watch video!

  179. tellitlikeitis says:

  180. tellitlikeitis says:

  181. LisaInTX says:

    “I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.” –Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Charles Jarvis, 1820

  182. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Lisa, I heard today that Chuck Shumer is fast tracking immigration reform/ amnesty by Labor Day. You got to keep your eye on the ball with this sleazy crowd.

  183. tellitlikeitis says:

  184. tellitlikeitis says:

  185. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is future Obamacare.

    Thousands of surgeries may be cut in Metro Vancouver, leaked paper reveals

    VANCOUVER — Vancouver patients needing neurosurgery, treatment for vascular diseases and other medically necessary procedures can expect to wait longer for care, NDP health critic Adrian Dix said Monday.

    Dix said a Vancouver Coastal Health Authority document shows it is considering chopping more than 6,000 surgeries in an effort to make up for a dramatic budgetary shortfall that could reach $200 million.

    “This hasn’t been announced by the health authority … but these cuts are coming,” Dix said, citing figures gleaned from a leaked executive summary of “proposed VCH surgical reductions.”

    The health authority confirmed the document is genuine, but said it represents ideas only.

    “It is a planning document. It has not been approved or implemented,” said spokeswoman Anna Marie D’Angelo.

    Dr. Brian Brodie, president of the BC Medical Association, called the proposed surgical cuts “a nightmare.”

    “Why would you begin your cost-cutting measures on medically necessary surgery? I just can’t think of a worse place,” Brodie said.

    According to the leaked document, Vancouver Coastal — which oversees the budget for Vancouver General and St. Paul’s hospitals, among other health-care facilities — is looking to close nearly a quarter of its operating rooms starting in September and to cut 6,250 surgeries, including 24 per cent of cases scheduled from September to March and 10 per cent of all medically necessary elective procedures this fiscal year.

    The plan proposes cutbacks to neurosurgery, ophthalmology, vascular surgery, and 11 other specialized areas.

    As many of 112 full-time jobs — including 13 anesthesiologist positions — would be affected by the reductions, the document says.

    “Clearly this will impact the capacity of the health-care system to provide care, not just now but in the future,” Dix said.

    Further reductions in surgeries are scheduled during the Olympics, when the health authority plans to close approximately a third of its operating rooms.

    Two weeks ago, Dix released a Fraser Health Authority draft communications plan listing proposed clinical care cuts, including a 10-per-cent cut in elective surgeries and longer waits for MRI scans.

    The move comes after the province acknowledged all health authorities together will be forced to cut staff, limit some services and increase fees to find $360 million in savings during the current fiscal year.

    In all, Fraser Health is looking at a $160-million funding shortfall.

    D’Angelo said Vancouver Coastal’s deficit is closer to $90 million — almost a third of which ($23 million) has already been absorbed through reductions in non-clinical administration efficiencies.

    Vancouver Coastal performed 67,000 surgeries last year, an increase of 6,500 surgeries over 2007.

    “What has now happened is that now our wait times are about 25 per cent lower than the provincial average,” D’Angelo said. “We have put a dent in that wait list.”

    Brodie acknowledged surgical waiting times have dropped significantly in recent years, particularly for patients needing hip and joint replacements.

    He said the proposed cuts threaten those advancements.

    “It sounds like we are going backwards here,” he said.

    Total health spending in British Columbia was $15.7 billion this year, up about four per cent over last year’s total of 15.1 billion, according to figures provided by the ministry of health.

    Health Minister Kevin Falcon was unavailable for comment Monday on the proposed health-care cuts. A ministry spokesman said Falcon is away on his honeymoon until the end of August.

    Elsewhere in British Columbia, the province will look to replace the head of the Interior Health Authority, Murray Ramsden, after he announced he will step down at the end of the year.

    Ramsden has said his decision to retire is not related to financial problems faced by the authority.

  186. tellitlikeitis says:

    AARP loses members over health care stance

    WASHINGTON (AP) — About 60,000 senior citizens have quit AARP since July 1 due to the group’s support for a health care overhaul, a spokesman for the organization said Monday.
    The membership loss suggests dissatisfaction on the part of AARP members at a time when many senior citizens are concerned about proposed cuts to Medicare providers to help pay for making health care available for all. But spokesman Drew Nannis said it wasn’t unusual for the powerful, 40 million-strong senior citizens’ lobby to shed members in droves when it’s advocating on a controversial issue.

    AARP is strongly backing a health care overhaul, running ads to support it and hosting President Obama at an online forum recently to promote his agenda to AARP members. However, the group has not endorsed a specific bill and says it won’t support a plan that reduces Medicare benefits.

    “We take stands on issues that are contentious, it’s part of what we do,” Nannis said. “And because we have so many members we’ll always have a small percentage that disagree with us so strongly they feel they need to cancel membership.”

    The approximately 60,000 number represents members who specifically cited AARP’s stance on the health overhaul debate in canceling their membership between July 1 and mid-August, Nannis said. He said that on average AARP loses some 300,000 members a month, but he couldn’t say how many more members had quit for other reasons in that time period.

  187. LisaInTX says:

    HI Tellit
    Thanks…this admin is totally ANTI-American in their agendas……
    BUT the good news as you have just shown in the videos, PATRIOTS have AWAKEN and are standing up to the corruption and tyranny!

  188. samhenry says:

    Tellit – the student on the vid was on CNN yesterday and he is a CONSERVATIVE.

    Chuck Schumer and that Weiner I just made a post about are just hacks. I’m embarrassed to be a New Yorker.

  189. m2 says:

    Hi Tellit, Sh, Lisa…

    Tellit, that 60-Minutes clip on the second Mortgage crisis really has me in a funk.

    Ef Obama… and his trillion dollar programs.
    This nation is going to default and die.

    Thank you Democrats.

  190. tellitlikeitis says:

    Ouch! That’s gotta hurt! lol

  191. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hello Lisa, SH,and m2. Keep and eye out for the amnesty bill. It’s coming soon.

  192. m2 says:

    I don’t know if the USA can be saved from the greed of Democrat Leadership and their billionaire benefactors…

    Greedy for power, greedy for money.

  193. karmahd says:

    What I find scary is while the nation fights between ideals of freedom verses government control, the nation is going deeper in the dumpster each day, more job losses, more foreclosures, further bleeding of the value of homes, and the answer to all of this is Keynesian tax and spend.

    We need to build confidence, and this administration is not performing there duty in providing that!!

  194. karmahd says:

    Deflation is rearing its ugly head, this my friends is what “could” put us in a depression!!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090818/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy_4

  195. tellitlikeitis says:

    I believe their game plan is to throw so much at us at one time while we are concentrating on one thing it will allow them to sneak something else through.

  196. m2 says:

    yeah that’s been their gameplan for everything… but do they really want what they are going for. They literally want to kill this nation in order to cement their power and greed.

    That is the most unsettling thing.

  197. LisaInTX says:

    Karma
    WOW….thanks for the link…..Beef prices fell….and as I see it, the problem is, I don’t think grain prices have gone down!
    This is NOT good.
    The cost to feed is still too dang high! And now the wholesale has gone down…..

  198. samiam60 says:

    A Second Economic Collapse is well on its way and we have billions in Unspent Stimulus going to waste as America heads to bankruptcy Court.

  199. m2 says:

    yes, and the media hypes partisan things, and Jon Stewart (where half the country get their news) tells the audience that the stay at home mom who questioned Arlen Spector was exaggerating.

    When you put it all together.
    Only a fool would think that what is happening is no big deal.

  200. karmahd says:

    Robin Hood and his merry men have been very busy setting the stage for their new world order of equality in there eyes!

  201. m2 says:

    right, today I heard the term “Social Justice” attributed to Healthcare.

    Social Justice is the new “Aryan” reason excuse to exterminate, redistribute and create totalitarianism… only problem is, the US is the only last great hope… and now they are killing it. The world will be very dark.

  202. karmahd says:

    The problem we have is, our economic well being is solely based in consumer confidence, with the poll numbers and discourse we are at 8 months into this administration, and the general overall mood toward politicians, this could get ugly in a mob kind of way!! So there plan is working, create social anarchy, sweep in and take control with marshal law, and use that to implement further control of the masses! These people are not stupid, I am working on another post, about Obamas, stable of attorneys, and his rewriting of the constitution!

  203. tellitlikeitis says:

    It seems clear to me the economy is not the priority of the democrats or this administration because everything they are doing is making it worse which makes me believe that they have more nefarious plans for this country.

  204. tellitlikeitis says:

    Karma, Whatever nefarious plans they have for this country they will need some kind of muscle to back it up. If they declare martial law who will enforce it. The police? The US military? UN troops? Who? The police hate Obama now and I don’t believe the US military would turn against it’s own citizens so that leaves UN troops.People should be talking about this stuff because I believe it will happen under Obama because he is completely out of control.

  205. karmahd says:

    A core group of people, not even the whole democratic party. This is a distinct reality, and not a conspiracy theory, keep your eyes open while we still have the internet. People are led and become followers via the message, Obama has a solid base of mindless followers, we deal with them every day, get enough of those followers, and the movement will be difficult to stop.

  206. m2 says:

    karma, I have to get over there to check out your blog. I’ve been so negative about what is happening in current events, I’ve just shut my eyes and ears these past few days.

    They will do whatever they want. They don’t care about the voters. It would be very easy to resolve a lot of the problems… but they seek to suppress truth and further cement their elitism. They consider themselves Rulers now… not Representatives.

    We should be worried about the mortgage mess heading our way. None of the money Obama has spent (printed) will help us with what we face. He has made it worse for us and children. He will go down in history as the President that killed this nation. But there won’t be a future for that to even matter.

  207. samiam60 says:

    For those Liberals out there who were convinced we needed Change. You got it!
    A deepening Recession
    A deepening Racial Divide
    A deepening war in Iraq
    A deepening war in Aftganistan
    A deepening Terrorist threat.
    A deepening Crisis with N. Korea
    A deepening Crisis with Iran
    A deepening Foreclosure Crisis
    A deepening devaluation of home prices
    A deepening devaluation of the Dollar
    A deepening distrust for Government
    A deepening divide among the American People
    A deepening National Dept
    A deepening fear of Marshall law
    A deepening fear of our privacy
    A deepening fear of healthcare
    A deepening fear of Cap and Trade
    A deepening fear of Congress
    A deepening fear of the White House
    A deepening fear of losing our Freedoms
    A deepening fear of losing more of our jobs
    A deepening fear of a one world government
    A deepening fear of the future of our Children
    A deepening fear of what Obama will do next
    A deepening fear of Socialism in America
    A deepening fear of Communism in America
    A deepening fear of our ability to defend America.
    And the list can go on and on my friends. You liberals need to wake up and realize that
    “WE THE PEOPLE” are fighting for YOUR Freedoms too!

  208. tellitlikeitis says:

    Cantor: Stimulus not working as well as advertised

    WASHINGTON – A member of the House Republican leadership says he doesn’t think the $787 billion economic stimulus program the Obama administration pushed through Congress earlier this year has worked as advertised.

    House GOP Whip Eric Cantor of Richmond said Tuesday that no one should be touting the benefits of stimulus — as Vice President Joe Biden has — at a time when national unemployment is at 9.4 percent.

    Interviewed on CBS’s “The Early Show,” he said that when the administration pressed Congress to act immediately, it projected joblessness no higher than 8.5 percent. Cantor said at a job fair recently, some 3,200 people showed up in 90-degree weather and said people are still worried job security

  209. LisaInTX says:

    The democracts were elected into power in 2006 because they ran on the putting an end to the Iraq war! Hello…..seems that war is still going on, in fact seems there is another in Afghanistan…..
    Oh but let us NOT recall that it was CONGRESS that voted for the wars or that Pres Bush stated reduction of forces in 2009….let us all acknowledge that Obama wants to take credit for Bush policies and totally overlook that he went over there during his campaign and without any authority, tried to stop the reduction of forces happening right then, until AFTER the election!!!
    The arrogance and corruption of these ANTI-AMERICANS makes me want to vomit!!!!

  210. karmahd says:

    Well don’t you find it odd Tellit that we are increasing our resources in Afghanistan, history has proven that regardless of might or power this is not a war first that can be won, second, why is such an antiwar leftist so concerned with the Afghanistan people?? In military terms it is called dividing your assets, they are busy fighting the police action, and distracted and out of the country, amass a police force (keep your eyes open for this) and take over with the ostensible reason “for the peoples safety”.

  211. m2 says:

    I have good reason to believe some Democrats sit in seats that were not elected by the people, but were bought by corruption and use of ACORN. That is the Democrat legacy.

    Angry hateful, elitist fakes who have to lie to obtain seats, or steal. Now they are there, they don’t care about “laws” or “respect for government”… they only care about themselves…

    and that is all.

  212. tellitlikeitis says:

    There doesn’t seem to be much worry about voter backlash and it makes you wonder why unless the fix is already in for 2010.

  213. m2 says:

    Even now, they lie and lie and lie. They can’t tell the people that they “don’t want things to get better” which is the truth. They want to corrupt the idea of government, they want to twist and corrupt the media to suit their own greed.

    They want to lie to the people in order to cement un-ending power for their future, even if it means wounding this nation irrevocably.

    I think this thought/mental state is a psychiatric problem. No one can be this deceitful and malicious and be sane.

  214. LisaInTX says:

    According to the Anti-American in chief……HIS grassroots were considered ambassadors….while they name those that oppose them as terrorists, extremist, nazis, deathers, birthers, racist, bigots, un-american…….etc..etc….

    I’ve gotta run folks…good to talk with y’all!!!

  215. m2 says:

    Thanks to today’s modern Democrat party, I now understand how Hitler came to power, and how so many people could exterminate hundreds of millions of people just like them. It is a mental condition.

    I used to wonder how people could do that to their friends and neighbors. I now see how it is possible thanks to modern-day liberalism which is now a shade’s breath away from Nazism.

  216. m2 says:

    good to see you Lisa…

    one thing about Hitler and his ilk, is they were more honest than the lot currently in power. The lot in power now still pretend to be conservatives.

  217. tellitlikeitis says:

    Afganistan is our new Vietnam. We should have learned from the Russians getting their asses kicked over there but we didn’t. Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

  218. m2 says:

    right tellit, which is why the Democrats are enacting the same Socialism that created Authoritarian Germany in 1930’s. But they pretend they are not, they pretend they are conservatives, they lie. But we see it. We see what they want, the discord between their policies, their appointments, and the talking points Axlerod writes for Obama. They are scattered in their message, the Dems, not because of any reason other than being FAKE. When you believe in something, when you stand behind it, when you speak for truth, it is easy to stand up for your message.

    When you are covering your intentions, when you have to lie, when you do not believe in fixing a problem, – you look like Obama and cronies… flopping and floundering day in and day out.

    It’s called, being a phoney.
    If he were himself, he’d sound just like Adolf.

  219. m2 says:

    I’ve got to do some jobs… will touch base later…

  220. tellitlikeitis says:

    bye Lisa and m2.

  221. karmahd says:

    http://www.exploitingchaos.com/exploiting-chaos-partner

    Check this out, I am on a mailing list called Trend Hunter, it dissimulates future trends (business). this is the source of the email sent to me today. Note the header Creating Chaos!

  222. samhenry says:

    On my way out. ALL Dems are dictators. Here’s one who ran for mayor of NYC twice and is now gunning for the President. Check Wickipedia but I think he is on the Finance Committee and I forget the other. This is fro samandimp.wordpress.com – I recommend the site lol.

    REP WEINER FROM NEW YORK THREATENS DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
    August 18, 2009 by samhenry

    Americans should be very concerned with the recent announcement of Representative Anthony Weiner, D-N when he declared that the “best” health care option would be “a single-payer plan, like Medicare for all Americans.” He went on to say that:

    “In the House of Representatives, without a strong public plan, even stronger than the one we reported out of committee, that HR3200 would have a very difficult time getting 218 votes.” Moving past debate to aggressively assert his views as the final word on Health Care legislation has echoes of dictatorship. He represents a district not a nation; his “inside” information about majority opinion in the House is an opinion, not fact.

    Ignoring the protestations of a significant number of Americans against the public option now in House Bill 3200. He put the President on notice that if the current public option currently in R 3200 is dropped from the bill, it will never make it out of Committee and, if brought to the floor would never get the votes needed to pass. He would help in this matter by abstaining.

    “Look, the president has to lead on this, and he has to say very clearly a public option is important[.]“ He further opined that only the single payer system would end private insurance companies flagrant abuse of their position.

    Representative Weiner appears to be a one man committee in the House who is taking the leadership position from both the President and the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. Isn’t the President still head of Party and Country? Last time I checked, we still live in a democracy based on voting and compromise and not the actions of a single member of the House who takes it upon himself to speak for an entire chamber of Congress – no matter the “inside” information he has.

    POSTSCRIPT: The Federal Election Commission had two cases (MURs, or Matters Under Review) concerning Weiner. Both cases have the same name, Friends of Weiner. MUR 4995 resulted in a $47,000 fine (”civil penalty”) against Weiner because of some financial misconduct in one of his reelection campaigns. MUR 5429 involved an illegal $28,000 loan that Weiner’s parents made to one of his campaign committees.

  223. tellitlikeitis says:

    I finally figured out the hope and change mystery. Obama’s Hope was to get elected so he can implement his radical agenda. The Change is consequences of it and what will result from it.

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  225. samiam60 says:

    Is it no wonder that so many Americans are misinformed on the important issue of our day?
    All one has to do is listen to the main stream news media for one full day and see for yourself all of the misinformation being spewed out by the liberal left. Fox News stands alone as far as reporting the facts but even then they are time limited on just how much detail they can offer.
    I feel certain that it will be left to the Conservative Bloggers to get detail facts out to the public.
    I myself cannot believe the distortions of truth I see on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and on and on. Journalism has been bought with money and power and we the People need to expose they’re deceptive ways of reporting the news.

  226. samiam60 says:

    The biggest scam of the Liberal News Media is the news they do not report on.

  227. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Sam, If you want to put them out of business boycott the sponsers.

  228. samiam60 says:

    That’s a great idea but unfortunately I don’t have the means to really buy anything anymore. What I do buy is very boycott selective for sure though.

  229. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam, I am not talking about big ticket stuff. I am refering to semi affordable things like household products and food items that are advertised.

  230. tellitlikeitis says:

  231. LisaInTX says:

    OH HELL!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!
    Hahhaaaaa…….

  232. samiam60 says:

    5 little girls who offer Hope for America!

  233. tellitlikeitis says:

    nice vids Lisa.

  234. LisaInTX says:

    She’s a pro

    The woman applying for a job in a Florida lemon grove seemed to be far too qualified for the job.

    The foreman frowned and said, “I have to ask you this: Have you had any actual experience in picking lemons?”

    “Well, as a matter of fact, I have!” she replied. “I’ve been divorced three times and I voted for Obama.”

  235. LisaInTX says:

    Thanks Tellit!! lol
    Thank you for posting yours too….:-}

    Heading outside…bbl

  236. LisaInTX says:

    The link above is for us RACIST BIRTHERS!!! hahahaaa

  237. m2 says:

    Obama to spend $1 billion to fund offshore drilling – for Brazil
    Rick Moran

    Just when you think Obama has made the dumbest move of his presidency, he proves once again that there is no limit to his stupidity.

    The Wall Street Journal is incredulous:

    The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.

    The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a “preliminary commitment” letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount. Ex-Im Bank says it has not decided whether the money will come in the form of a direct loan or loan guarantees. Either way, this corporate foreign aid may strike some readers as odd, given that the U.S. Treasury seems desperate for cash and Petrobras is one of the largest corporations in the Americas.

    But look on the bright side. If President Obama has embraced offshore drilling in Brazil, why not in the old U.S.A.? The land of the sorta free and the home of the heavily indebted has enormous offshore oil deposits, and last year ahead of the November elections, with gasoline at $4 a gallon, Congress let a ban on offshore drilling expire.

    Obama is actually going to go ahead with additional oil leases for the Gulf of Mexico. But as the Journal points out, there is as much oil along our east and west coasts as the oil field in Brazil our president is financing.

    But carbon is evil and we emit too much of it. Better to let Americans pay through the nose for foreign oil than exploit any of our own fields and have one additional molecule of CO2 waft up into the atmosphere.

  238. tellitlikeitis says:

    Why are you surprised m2? I’s just monoply money to him. He is the new Santa and everyday is christmas. He wants to run this country right into financial ruin and we are well on our way now.

  239. tellitlikeitis says:

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  241. samiam60 says:

    It’s a good day to be above ground.

  242. tellitlikeitis says:

    Robert Novak: Innovator’s life marked by passion

    August 18, 2009

    BY SUN-TIMES EDITORIAL BOARD
    Most people know the late Sun-Times columnist Robert D. Novak, who died this morning [Tuesday] from complications of a brain tumor, as a journalist. And indeed he was among the best this country has produced. Simply stated, Bob was a relentless reporter. His political columns were marked by his determination to dig out new information, behind-the-scenes anecdotes and Washington secrets to tell us something we didn’t know. He combined that with sharp analysis, insightful commentary and passion about the issues facing the nation to emerge as a brawling contestant in the great national debates of his era.

    Firmly planted in the print world with his widely read syndicated thrice-a-week column, Bob also was an innovator in the electronic media. With the CNN programs “Capital Gang” and “Crossfire,” Bob pioneered the brash, no-holds-barred public affairs programming so familiar to viewers of cable news television today.

    Robert David Sanders Novak, 78, was born and raised in Joliet and his first newspaper jobs were with the Joliet Herald-News. He passed away at 4:30 a.m., returning home after being hospitalized between July 10 and July 24.
    (NBC file)

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    But more than that, his contributions to the great debates of the day demonstrated that Bob was someone who thought deeply about his country, its system of government and the challenges both faced. For example, in his 2000 book Completing the Revolution: A Vision for Victory in 2000, Bob offered his views on how America should build on the freedom legacy of President Reagan.

    He was always eager to share his passion for public policy and politics. In speeches to college graduation classes, Bob distilled the essence of his years-long ruminations on America for young people just starting out in life:

    “Always love your country — but never trust your government!

    “That should not be misunderstood. I certainly am not advocating civil disobedience, must less insurrection or rebellion. What I am advocating is to not expect too much from government and be wary of it power, even the power of a democratic government in a free country.

    “Ours is one of the mildest, most benevolent governments in the world. But it too has the power to take your wealth and forfeit your life. … A government that can give you everything can take everything away.”

    That sounds like good advice, whether you’re a conservative or a liberal. And Bob most definitely was a conservative, though he never let his political inclinations blind him to what he saw as the realities of the world, even when it angered his natural allies. Bob’s dissent from the Bush administration’s rush to topple Iraq’s Saddam Hussein earned him the ill will of other, perhaps less insightful conservatives. In one of those incomprehensible moments that occasionally mar the nation’s political discourse, Novak found himself labeled as one of America’s “unpatriotic conservatives” in a cover story in National Review magazine.

    Bob’s disagreement with the mainstream of conservative thought on Iraq exemplified his independent spirit, his dedication to a robust discussion of the great issues facing the nation and his belief in the values underpinning our society.

    Bob saw America as the inheritor, greatest manifestation and guardian of the best of Western civilization. He was introduced to those values at the University of Illinois through a freshman course on the history of Western civilization. Recalling that time in his 2007 memoir The Prince of Darkness: 50 Years Reporting in Washington, Bob wrote, “It was a golden moment for a 17-year-old boy from Joliet, leading to four years of exploration in the riches of our heritage: Plato, Aristotle, Chaucer, Castiglione, Machiavelli, Shakespeare, Milton, John Donne, Hawthorne, Melville, T.S. Eliot — dead white men all. How barren would be my life without that background?”

    In later years, Bob became worried about the retreat from those values on the college campus. Typically, he resolved to do something about it. To help perpetuate the education of America’s youth in those values and traditions, Bob in 2000 endowed at his beloved University of Illinois the Robert D. Novak Chair of Western Civilization and Culture.

    We at the Sun-Times will remember Bob as a generous friend and colleague, a tireless workhorse, an innovator in journalism and an example of how to practice our profession. His most enduring legacy, though, may well be his work to pass down generation to generation his love of this country, its traditions and its values that guided his life and work.

  243. karmahd says:

    Wish I would have had this when I posted the article on Sunstein

  244. karmahd says:

    FDR’s Second Bill of Rights, and apparently the Obama outline for his change

    In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

    Among these are:

    The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

    The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

    The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

    The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

    The right of every family to a decent home;

    The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

    The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

    The right to a good education.

    All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

    America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens.

  245. tellitlikeitis says:

    Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll
    Monday, August 17, 2009
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief

    Self-identified conservatives outnumber self-identified liberals in all 50 states of the union, according to the Gallup Poll.

    At the same time, more Americans nationwide are saying this year that they are conservative than have made that claim in any of the last four years.

    In 2009, 40% percent of respondents in Gallup surveys that have interviewed more than 160,000 Americans have said that they are either “conservative” (31%) or “very conservative” (9%). That is the highest percentage in any year since 2004.

    Only 21% have told Gallup they are liberal, including 16% who say they are “liberal” and 5% who say they are “very liberal.”

    Thirty-five percent of Americans say they are moderate.

    During Republican President George W. Bush’s second term, the number of self-identified conservatives as measured by Gallup dropped, riding at a low of 37% as recently as last year.

    According to new data released by Gallup on Friday, conservatives outnumber liberals in all 50 states–including President Obama’s home state of Illinois–even though Democrats have a significant advantage over Republicans in party identification in 30 states.

    “In fact, while all 50 states are, to some degree, more conservative than liberal (with the conservative advantage ranging from 1 to 34 points), Gallup’s 2009 party ID results indicate that Democrats have significant party ID advantages in 30 states and Republicans in only 4,” said an analysis of the survey results published by Gallup.

    “Despite the Democratic Party’s political strength– seen in its majority representation in Congress and in state houses across the country–more Americans consider themselves conservative than liberal,” said Gallup’s analysis.

    “While Gallup polling has found this to be true at the national level over many years, and spanning recent Republican as well as Democratic presidential administrations, the present analysis confirms that the pattern also largely holds at the state level,” said Gallup. “Conservatives outnumber liberals by statistically significant margins in 47 of the 50 states, with the two groups statistically tied in Hawaii, Vermont, and Massachusetts.”

    Massachusetts, Vermont and Hawaii are the most liberal states, even though conservatives marginally outrank liberals even there. In Massachusetts, according to Gallup, 30% say they are conservative and 29% say they are liberal, a difference that falls within the margin of error for the state. In Vermont, 29% say they are conservative and 28% say they are liberal, which also falls within the survey’s margin of error for the state. In Hawaii, 29% say they are conservative and 24% say they are liberal, which falls within the margin of error for that state.

    In one non-state jurisdiction covered by the survey, liberals did outnumber conservatives. That was Washington, D.C., where 37% said they were liberal, 35% said they were moderate and 23% said they were conservative.

    Even in New York and New Jersey, conservatives outnumber liberals by 6 percentage points, according to Gallup. In those states, 32% say they are conservative and 26% say they are liberal. In Connecticut, conservatives outnumber liberals by 7 points, 31% to 24%.

    Alabama is the state that comes closest to a conservative majority. In that state, according to Gallup, 49% say they are conservative and 15% say they are liberal.

    In President Obama’s home state of Illinois, conservatives outnumber liberals, 35% to 23%.

    Gallup’s results were derived from interviewing 160,236 American adults between Jan. 2, 2009 and June 30, 2009.

    Even though conservatives outnumber liberals in all 50 states, in 21 of these states self-identified moderates outnumber conservatives, and in 4 states the percentage saying they are conservative and the percentage saying they are moderate is exactly the same.

    The two states with the highest percentage of self-identified moderates are Hawaii and Rhode Island, where 43% say they are moderate.

    For a ranking of all 50 states by the advantage that self-identified conservatives have over self-identified liberals see the Gallup analysis here.

  246. karmahd says:

    The next wave of the freedom grabbers!!

  247. karmahd says:

    Where the hell is everyone??

  248. samhenry says:

    I’m here, Karm

  249. samhenry says:

    I am uploading a video that will make you sick. Two House Reps from NY State have taken the President to task and will hope to change the current bill to Single Payer. Massa goes even further and states that he will vote for single payer over the objections of his constituents.

  250. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    That’s a darn shame !! Congressmen bucking the will of their constituents is a dangerous thing these days. They must not be watching the news.

    Hey, I just got email AGAIN from barackobama.com folks.
    I dont know what part of NO those folks dont understand. I have clicked unsubcribe many times. And they keep sending me emails. What’s wrong w/those folk. They are like a used car salesman who stays on your ass to make a sale & you walk away, but they still will not go away. This is pure harassment!

  251. samhenry says:

    Arlene – it is harassment straight up but I think what is happening is that that database with all of our names in it is so large and complex they just can’t access it to delete it. What grabs me is that they are now saying that a “third party” was responsible for the list of people that had not signed up to receive their mailings. Apparently either no one is home in the Administration OR they don’t know what they are doing. I believe both can be true!

  252. samhenry says:

    Arlene, I think things are very bad generally. I hate to say this. Hang on to your chickens, It’s going to be a bumpy ride – Didn’t Bette Davis say that in that movie or was it Hold on to your seats it’s going to be a bumpy ride? lol.

  253. samhenry says:

    I have to get dinner going. Wouldn’t miss a meal you know.

    DOG OVERBOARD

  254. samiam60 says:

    It is my profound opinion that Obama has jacked up America.

  255. samiam60 says:

    Mr. Obama do America a favor and :

  256. samiam60 says:

    LONG LEGGED MAC DADDY YOU GOT’S TO GO

  257. samiam60 says:

    This is just so beautiful I have to play it again:

  258. samiam60 says:

    If that don’t give ya Goose Bumps ya must be dead

  259. Foxwood says:

    Morning all,

    I was getting ready to post about Bob Novak’s death, then my power went out. Just got it back.

  260. arlenearmy says:

    Folks,
    Could it just be my pc or is the internet dragging slow ?

  261. Foxwood says:

    I just got my power back to the house an hour ago, so I haven’t noticed, Arlene.

  262. samiam60 says:

    Wahhh Geeee da liberals are all upset with the chosen one. Wahhhhhhh, drink your Kool Aid Libs

    AP – Frustrated liberals have a question for President Barack Obama and Democratic lawmakers: Isn’t it time the other guys gave a little ground on health care? What’s the point of a bipartisan bill, they ask, if we’re making all the concessions?

  263. VotingFemale says:

    Hi Everyone! Just wanted to pop in and wave!

    I see the White House Spammers are moving underground…. and the DEM Congresspersons are hiding now from the dissenting voters… damn cowards… hahahahahaha

    Run little Socialists RUN!!!!

  264. VotingFemale says:

    Hi Fox, Samiam, Arlene, SamHenry, Karma!

  265. VotingFemale says:

    ahhh… no one on… going to turn in for the evening… sleep well dears… Obutthole is on the run.

  266. samiam60 says:

    Barney Frank ends Town Hall Meeting:

  267. karmahd says:

    “Frank blamed cost of the war in Iraq as one reason it has been difficult to find the resources to cover domestic reforms”.

    The war in Iraq cost us 1.2 trillion dollars over 7 years. Obama has spent twice that in 7 months. The Barney show is clearly relying on ridicule to throw his detractors off point. How this guy survived after what he did to contribute to this mess via his more than obvious hand in the financial meltdown, which is the real reason we are in the mess we are in, and that is estimated to cost over 100 trillion by the time this is all said and done. He is the definition of HYPOCRITE!!!!

  268. Sammy says:

    All obama will do is outsource anyways. Just think about the all the lobbyists flocking to Washington DC because of obama’s reckless over-spending of $2 TRILLION in just 6 months, which alone is increasing the National Debt by 20%.

    Politicians take people’s money and reward the large corporations, in this case companies in the health care industry, since they have the money to more effectively lobby politicians. In the end smaller businesses will be hurt.

    Politicians will only reward companies that will be in their best political interest. Honestly, when can you really trust politicians since they are basically professional liars, and being president just means you are the best liar of the time. Why not just give the money directly from the people to the companies and take politicians in government out of the equation?

    obama is going to recklessly spend TRILLIONS of tax payers’ money just to give insurance to about 25% of those who do not have it. Over 50% of people’s income go towards taxes, just imagine how many more people will afford health care insurance if their income is almost doubled because of dramatic tax cuts.

    Competition is what is needed. It lowers prices of products and services, along with developing new innovations. All of which will benefit consumers. You need to remember that monopolistic tendencies can also apply to government.

    The reason why the cost of insurance is high is because politicians in government mandate insurance companies to increase their premiums to pay for ridiculous things. In addition, politicians put up regulations so that Americans are not allowed to get insurance from another state and use the coverage in their own state. This reduces competition making it more expensive for people to get insurance. On top of that medical professionals are not allowed to freely practice their profession in any US state without taking a long and tedious licensing process. This again increases the cost of medical insurance.

    In the end, the problem with most economic issues is too much government intervention of the economy by politicians, who will only tend to do things for political self interest. Just like how obama nationalized GM to pander to its unions. Politicians can barely run government, yet people think they can run a multi-national auto manufacturing company?

    The solution is SMALLER government, LESS spending, and LOWER taxes.

  269. samhenry says:

    You don’t have to be an opera fan and I am not so much of one – to have a passion for Wagner’s Tristan and Isolde’s most famous part “Liebestod” – “love death.” It is conducted by the legendary conductor VonKarajan with the Berlin Philharmonic. This was his final concert. And who did he chose to work with? He brings us a US national treasure – Jesse Norman. Please try to bring yourself to listen:

  270. samhenry says:

    I view the above as one of many “requiems” for our nation and what it is going through. We love it and hope we will not have to see its death -spiritually as well as legally.

  271. samhenry says:

    Rep Barney Frank in New Hampshire at Dartmouth last night. Only part of the meeting.

  272. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning SamH!

    good vids!

  273. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Everyone!

    Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others

    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) – A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said Tuesday.
    Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an “agent provocateur” and was taught by the agency “what he could say that wouldn’t be crossing the line,” defense attorney Michael Orozco said.

    “His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest,” Orozco said.

    Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in Illinois deserved to die.

    “But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating, there was no difference. No difference whatsoever,” Orozco said.

    Special Agent Ross Rice, a spokesman for the FBI in Chicago, said he would not comment on or even confirm Turner’s relationship with the FBI.

    Orozco spoke to reporters after a court hearing in Hartford on Tuesday. Turner, 47, of North Bergen, N.J., did not appear, because he is in federal custody in Illinois. His arraignment on the Connecticut charges was rescheduled to Oct. 19.

    In June, Turner urged his readers to “take up arms” against Connecticut lawmakers and suggested government officials should “obey the Constitution or die,” because he was angry over legislation—later withdrawn—that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic churches more control over their parish’s finances.

    He wrote in Internet postings the same month that the Illinois federal appeals judges “deserve to be killed” because they issued a ruling that upheld ordinances in Chicago and suburban Oak Park banning handguns. He included their photos and the room numbers of their chambers at the courthouse.

    Orozco officially joined Turner’s defense team in the Connecticut case on Tuesday, with approval from Superior Court Judge David Gold. Orozco said his Newark, N.J.-based firm has been representing Turner for the past five years, including during his FBI informant years.

    Turner’s Connecticut attorney, Matthew R. Potter, said it’s too early to tell which trial will move forward first. Orozco said he plans First Amendment defenses in both cases.

    Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Chicago, said the office would not comment on Orozco’s statements.

  274. VotingFemale says:

    good Morning Tellit!

    There is no low too low for the Socialists to stoop to gain control of the Government.

    The more they do the wider the eyes of We the People are Opened.

    It is called KARMA and the Socialist KARMA IS ALL BAD

  275. samiam60 says:

    This White House is the most technically savvy administration in history. It wants to “own your computer” when you sign up for the “Cash for Clunkers” program; it wants to monitor your browsing habits with “cookies;” and it wants you to report your neighbor if you notice anything “fishy.” Now, it wants us to believe that the most recent Internet-related story involving third party healthcare e-mails is another mistake. Don’t believe the government’s excuses. This White House is pushing programs and bills down our throats and it knows exactly how to use the Internet as a means to its ends. But Americans, like the viewer that provided my FOX News colleague Glenn Beck with the “Cash for Clunkers”/”own your computer” story and some journalists, like my colleague Major Garrett, are confronting the government. What my FOX News colleague Major Garrett did, by demanding to know how the White House gains access to the e-mail addresses of millions of Americans, was historic in its dimension.

    The present administration has not even tried to hide its antipathy for our privacy and our right to speak and communicate without intimidation. For starters, the Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment protects the right to anonymous speech; thus, any effort to find out who or where or why folks oppose the president is unlawful and unconstitutional. Second, the statutes that the president has sworn to enforce make it unlawful for him or anyone in his name to take names and try to pierce constitutionally-protected anonymity. Third, the threat to deliver cookies to the computers to those who communicate with the White House is an egregious violation of privacy. Think about it: The government is absolutely prohibited by caselaw and statute from putting a camera over your shoulder while you browse in a bookstore or library. It also cannot monitor your computer browsing habits without violating your privacy.

    The Supreme Court rejected the idea that the First Amendment permits the government to make and keep a record of the faces and voices and ideas of its domestic political opponents. The Court called this “chilling” the right to speak freely; in other words, denying it the breathing room that free speech requires. The whole purpose of the First Amendment, the Court wrote, is to encourage — not discourage — open, broad, robust political debate; and any inhibition, real or threatened, that comes from the government is unconstitutional. In direct response to President Nixon’s enemy list, Congress enacted the Privacy Act. Among many other protections, it specifically prohibits the president or anyone in his name from making or keeping records of any persons’ use of speech.

  276. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Samiam!

    am about to go do a new blog post…

  277. tellitlikeitis says:

    They are just going to ram it down our throats.

    Democrats see little chance for GOP cooperation on health care

    WASHINGTON — Given hardening Republican opposition to congressional health care proposals, Democrats now say they see little chance for the minority’s cooperation in approving any overhaul, and are increasingly focused on drawing support for a final plan from within their own ranks.

    Top Democrats said Tuesday that their go-it-alone view was being shaped by what they saw as Republicans’ purposely strident tone against health care legislation during this month’s congressional recess, as well as remarks by leading Republicans that current proposals were flawed beyond repair.

    The White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs, said of Republican lawmakers, “Only a handful seem interested in the type of comprehensive reform that so many people believe is necessary to ensure the principles and the goals that the president has laid out.”

    The Democratic shift may not make producing a final bill much easier. The party must still reconcile the views of moderate and conservative Democrats worried about the cost and scope of the legislation with those of more progressive lawmakers determined to win a government-run insurance option to compete with private insurers.

    On the other hand, such a change could alter the dynamic of talks surrounding health care legislation, and even change the substance of a final bill. With no need to negotiate with Republicans, Democrats might be better able to focus their energy to move more quickly, relying on their large majorities in both houses. Democratic senators might feel more empowered, for example, to define the authority of the nonprofit insurance cooperatives that are emerging as an alternative to a public insurance plan.

    Republicans have used the congressional break to dig in hard against the overhaul outline drawn by Democrats. The Senate’s No. 2 Republican, Jon Kyl of Arizona, is the latest member of the opposition to weigh in strongly, saying Tuesday that the public response lawmakers were seeing over the summer break should persuade Democrats to scrap their approach and start over.

    “I think it is safe to say there are a huge number of big issues that people have,” Kyl told reporters in a conference call from Arizona. “There is no way that Republicans are going to support a trillion-dollar-plus bill.”

    The White House has also interpreted critical comments by Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican negotiator in a crucial Finance Committee effort to reach a bipartisan compromise, as a sign that there is little hope of reaching a deal politically acceptable to both parties.

    The White House presumed he was no longer interested in negotiating with Democrats after he initially made no effort to debunk misinformation that the legislation could lead to “death panels” empowered to judge who would receive care.

    Further, Grassley said this week that he would vote against a bill unless it had wide support from Republicans, even if it included all the provisions he wanted.

  278. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good morning sam and VF.

  279. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning VF and Tellit.

  280. samiam60 says:

    This Administration has demonstrated that it has little regard for our personal freedoms of speech and our Constitutional rights. I say BEWARE!

  281. samiam60 says:

    Paul Revere yelled as he rode through the Colonies:
    To Arms, To Arms the British are coming.

    This Administration wants to take away that right to bare arms. What would Paul Revere had done under this administration?

    Perhaps he would have been forced to yell:

    Run for your life, the British are coming.

    THINK ABOUT IT.

  282. tellitlikeitis says:

    Energy workers rally against climate plan

    Local energy workers jammed a downtown Houston theater today to protest climate change legislation that the U.S. Senate will take up in the coming weeks.

    The Energy Citizens rally, promoted by some major energy companies and business organizations as well as the Greater Houston Partnership, is the first of several such events planned in 19 states in the coming weeks.

    About 3,500 people, or 1,500 more than expected, filed into the facility, many donning yellow T-shirts that were being handed out that read “I’m an energy citizen.” Houston Astros owner Drayton McLane Jr. was the keynote speaker.

    Organizers of the event, billed as a dialogue on energy and the environment, told the Chronicle on Monday that legislation the U.S. House passed last spring will destroy millions of U.S. jobs and raise costs without reducing greenhouse gas emissions blamed for climate change.

    “It’s a dangerous piece of legislation,” said James Hackett, chairman and CEO of Anadarko Energy, which is busing employees to the event.

    Hackett said he supports reducing greenhouse emissions and developing alternative sources of fuel.

    “But I do think there’s a virtual reality that’s being portrayed to most American citizens about how quickly we get there and how we get there,” Hackett said.

    The rally is scheduled for 12:30 p.m. at the Verizon Wireless Theater downtown, with doors open at 11:30.

    The climate change bill the House passed earlier this year sets a steadily decreasing cap on emissions from factories, power plants and other industrial sources and lets companies trade any excess emissions allowances. The price of those emissions allowances would most likely be passed on to consumers.

    The measure also would set up a system for creating extra allowances, called offsets, through other projects that reduce emissions, and would include incentives for renewable energy sources and home and business energy efficiency.

    But opponents say the bill won’t reduce greenhouse gas emissions because it doesn’t secure promises from developing nations, like China and India, to put controls on their growing emissions.

    It also makes no mention of encouraging nuclear power generation, which some rally organizers believe will be key to meeting the country’s electricity needs without creating more greenhouse gases, and doesn’t discuss a role for natural gas, which typically has lower carbon emissions than other fossil fuels.

    Opponents also say the cost of the legislation is ill-timed in a weak economy.

    A study released by the National Association of Manufacturers last week says the law would cost 1.8 million to 2.4 million jobs by 2030 and would cost each U.S. household up to $1,248 a year by 2030.

    Other estimates of annual household costs have differed — $83 per year according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration; $88-$140 according to the Environmental Protection Agency; and $175 a year projected by the Congressional Budget Office.

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, both major party nominees — Republican John McCain and Democratic winner Barack Obama — said they favored a cap-and-trade system for greenhouse gas emissions.

    One of the scheduled speakers at today’s event, National Black Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Harry Alford, said his organization has been on the record against such a bill since 1996 when it opposed the Kyoto Treaty that led to the emissions trading system now operating in Europe.

    Chevron has invited Houston employees and retirees to participate in the event, and will provide transportation, so they can be part of the policy discussion, said spokesman Scott Walker in an e-mail.

    “Chevron supports a national climate change program that is transparent, promotes energy efficiency and conservation measures, treats all participants fairly and protects our economy and energy security,” he said.

    Shell Oil has been outspoken in support of climate change legislation, and is a member of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, which has supported a cap and trade program.

    Shell is “neither encouraging nor discouraging participation in the rally,” spokesman Bill Tanner said.

    The Greater Houston Partnership is “still in the process of formulating an official position on the cap and trade plan in the energy legislation,” according to a release concerning the event, but is encouraging dialogue because of the legislation’s potential effect on the region.

  283. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam it’s called soft tyranny.

  284. tellitlikeitis says:

    People now have to work until August to achieve tax freedom.

  285. samiam60 says:

    Tellit says:

    Sam it’s called soft tyranny.

    Tellit,

    Well I think it is taking Viagra!

  286. tellitlikeitis says:

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9 (see trends).

    Just 6% of voters now expect a tax cut during the Obama years. Forty-two percent (42%) expect their taxes to go up. A Rasmussen video report notes that the Country Financial Security Index slipped to a record low last month.

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter and Facebook.

    Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

    Early polling in Illinois shows that the race for Obama’s old Senate seat is a toss-up.

    Most Americans would prefer no health care reform this year rather than passage of the legislation currently working its way through Congress. Sixty-seven percent (67%) believe politics in Washington, DC will become even more partisan over the coming year. That’s up from 55% a month ago and from 40% when President Obama took office.

    It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama’s numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That’s because some of the President’s most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote. Other factors are also important to consider when comparing Job Approval ratings from different polling firms.

    Forty-four percent (44%) of Americans believe that admission to national parks should be free while 47% disagree.

    Topics include the President’s Job Approval, health care, immigration, and more. For more measures of the President’s performance, see Obama By the Numbers and recent demographic highlights from the tracking polls.

    Scott Rasmussen has recently had three analysis columns published in the Wall Street Journal. The most recent was on health care. Earlier columns were on the President’s approval ratings and how Obama won the White House by campaigning like Ronald Reagan. If you’d like Scott Rasmussen to speak at your meeting, retreat, or conference, contact Premiere Speakers Bureau. You can also learn about Scott’s favorite place on earth or his time working with hockey legend Gordie Howe.

    A Fordham University professor has rated the national pollsters on their record in Election 2008. We also have provided a summary of our results for your review.

    Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 500 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The margin of sampling error—for the full sample of 1,500 Likely Voters–is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Results are also compiled on a full-week basis and crosstabs for full-week results are available for Premium Members.

    Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large (see methodology). Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. While partisan affiliation is generally quite stable over time, there are a fair number of people who waver between allegiance to a particular party or independent status. Over the past four years, the number of Democrats in the country has increased while the number of Republicans has decreased.

    Our baseline targets are established based upon separate survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews) and targets are updated monthly. Currently, the baseline targets for the adult population are 38.4% Democrats, 32.7% Republicans, and 28.9% unaffiliated. Likely voter samples typically show a slightly smaller advantage for the Democrats.

    A review of last week’s key polls is posted each Saturday morning. Other stats on Obama are updated daily on the Rasmussen Reports Obama By the Numbers page. We also invite you to review other recent demographic highlights from the tracking polls.

  287. tellitlikeitis says:

    Sam , I know the administration is just looking for an excuse to declare martial law. They are getting frustrated that people are trying to slowdown the socialist express.

  288. samiam60 says:

    I do not believe they (The Administration) expected this kind of response from the American People. They underestimated the Patriotism of
    “We The People”

  289. tellitlikeitis says:

    This arrogant motherf’er is why we need term limits.

  290. tellitlikeitis says:

  291. samhenry says:

    Hi guys

    This is very important. This is MY congressional representative, Eric Massa, describing my district as incredibly right wing. Then, at the end of the VIDEO, see that he says he will vote for single payer over the wishes of his constituents. Do you think I need his “help”?

  292. Foxwood says:

    Rough night. Just getting in. Still have paperwork, then it’s off to bed.

  293. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Fox!

    I just published the new blog post…

    now I have to go take care of non internet stuff… will be back later in the day.

    smooches to all!

    https://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/obamacare-town-halls-failure-to-launch-54-percent-say-no-to-obamacare-bill/

  294. Foxwood says:

    Some footage of damages in area

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