Obama-Pelosi Declare WAR; Demonizing Health Industry; Warning, Socialist Demons At Work

Obama Attacks Your Health Insurance Co and Doctors to force Government Takeover with ObamaCare

Obama & Co Attacks Your Health Insurance Co and Doctors to force Government Takeover with ObamaCare Bill

Folks, lets face it. Obama wants what Obama wants and his list of dirty tricks is long.

Notice that Obama and Pelosi, along with the Obama Political Complex have now switched tactics to Demonize the Medical Profession and all Health Insurance Companies.

This is a Socialist War Against Private Industry, the Health Industry, and they are bent on a Socialist Government Takeover at all costs.

Nancy Pelosi?
You Are A…

Nancy Pelosi is a Lying SNAKE! HISSSSSS!!!!!

NANCY PELOSI
THE MOST
UNTRUSTED US POLITICIAN
SERVING IN OFFICE.

Obama and Pelosi want Their Socialism between you and your body’s care.

Thus, they accuse the health insurance industry of that which they themselves WILL DO TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

If you allow them to get away with it?
God Help You.

When Socialists are Accountable
There is no Accountability

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1,032 Responses to Obama-Pelosi Declare WAR; Demonizing Health Industry; Warning, Socialist Demons At Work

  1. ohiobelle says:

    VF, GREAT POST!!!!

    The picture scared the hell out me… lol

  2. VotingFemale says:

    I added links to commenter’s related blog posts.
    Now you get to see how pingbacks work! 🙂

  3. VotingFemale says:

    Check your e-mail Belle! You Got PingBacked! lol

  4. ohiobelle says:

    I want to say how very sorry I am to have posted the “cash for clunkers” link!!! sigh
    I guess I thougth we could trust our government. I’ll never make that mistake again.

  5. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, that photo was banned at iReport! lol

    I origionally used it for several iReports about the Socialists behaviors and poof! they each got zapped. I did replacement iReports without the pic and each was allowed.

    go figger…

  6. ohiobelle says:

    PingBacked??? lol Nothing yet.

  7. ohiobelle says:

    That’s the picture!! lol It used to tick them off so much. That’s too funny.

  8. VotingFemale says:

    Cash For Clunkers is a major BUST…

    These Dik Heds know nothing and now? they are screwing with the car market like kids with the password to Dad’s online Stock Trading Account.

  9. VotingFemale says:

    LOL Belle!!!

    The iTrolls HATED HATED HATED that picture!

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  10. ohiobelle says:

    I can’t believe everthing I’ve been seeing on tv. Barack Obama is nothing more than a puppet to Pelosi and Reid!

  11. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, then check your comment and spam moderation pages…

    you must have email notification of comments awaiting moderation turned off.

  12. ohiobelle says:

    Did you see the warning on the clunker site?

  13. ohiobelle says:

    vf wrote: you must have email notification of comments awaiting moderation turned off.

    yes.

  14. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, oh gee… you must have comments turned off…

  15. VotingFemale says:

    I saw that about the govt taking ownership of any computer and its contents if it accesses the cars.gov website.

    That pisses me the hell off!!!

  16. VotingFemale says:

    The more crap they pull the more it reveals what the pic above in the blogpost shows…

    EVILNESS

  17. ohiobelle says:

    I was so pissed off about that!!!

    This whole cash for clunker deal is destroying the used car industry!! Every car that is destroyed is c0sting dealerships $200.00. Why isn’t the government taking the $200.00 out of the $4,500.00??? Government just doesn’t understand how to run businesses!! This is really hurting the car dealerships!

  18. ohiobelle says:

    vf wrote: I saw that about the govt taking ownership of any computer and its contents if it accesses the cars.gov website.

    Can you imagine big bro logging on your site?? lol

  19. VotingFemale says:

    This blog gets a lot of traffic from Washington DC.

    no joke…

  20. ohiobelle says:

    IF WASHINGTON IS READING THIS…

    OHIO IS NOW A RED STATE!!! WE’LL NEVER BE BLUE AGAIN!! IT WAS VOTER FRAUD DONE BY ACORN!!

  21. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, did you catch what Beck is up to now?

    The Government Watchdog feature…

    He will be explaining it in depth next week but essentially, he got the heads up on that cars.gov deal via a listener to his radio show… now he wants folks to flag him on stuff we find.

    And I am SURE he will get the traffic into his website with watchdog alerts which he can focus on on his FOX program and the radio.

  22. ohiobelle says:

    ACORN was bringing homeless people to the polls! I know people that were working at the polls when this was happening.

  23. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, I can tell you with certainty that this blog is also read by Michelle Malkin… no joke.

  24. ohiobelle says:

    vf wrote: Belle, did you catch what Beck is up to now?

    The Government Watchdog feature?? What a great idea! That’s awesome!

  25. VotingFemale says:

    The depth of crookedness in ACORN and SEIU is so deep I cant stand it… and Obama is up to his neck in the ACORN/SEIU cesspool.

    ohiobelle says

    ACORN was bringing homeless people to the polls! I know people that were working at the polls when this was happening.

  26. ohiobelle says:

    I love Michelle Malkin!!

    I’ve got something I would love to post but I’ve been told to hold off for now. I think it’s important to share this but I can’t just yet.

  27. VotingFemale says:

    can you email it to me?

  28. ohiobelle says:

    I can however post this information on Becks Watchdog link….. hmmmm I think I might just do that.

  29. ohiobelle says:

    vf, I was planning on emailing it to you. You could actually do more with it then I could. You could get the word out to more people.

    I’ll check with my source and what he thinks.

  30. VotingFemale says:

    Glenn Beck: 10 Million Watchdogs

    July 31, 2009 – 10:31 ET

    GLENN: I want to have a serious kind of ‑‑ I don’t even know what to call ‑‑ a call to action here. I’d like to ask you to become a part of America’s future. I’d like to ask you to become a part of the solution and not the problem.

  31. VotingFemale says:

    more from the Glenn Beck article: But see, here’s the secret: I or Rush or anybody else, they don’t have to do it alone. We don’t need the mainstream media anymore. The paradigm is about to shift. Don’t worry about the media. The media will find themselves in the dustbin of history. We have each other. We currently have all forms of communication available to us. We currently ‑‑ and I don’t know how long this lasts, but we currently have an unrestricted Internet where we can communicate and we can find the answers. You will be amazed on how many answers you can find. You will be amazed on how transparent things really are when you just know what to look for.

    I need you to help me define what the fronts are. What are the lines that they are moving in and pushing on. For instance, healthcare cannot be passed. No form of universal healthcare. Because it is not about the healthcare. It is about the structure, and I will outline this in the next few days. Structure is what matters. Nothing else matters. Structure is what matters. We need to watch the czars. We need to watch cap and trade, structure on cap and trade. We need to watch ‑‑ quite honestly we need to guard, as much as I hate every member of congress, we need to guard congress because the executive branch is devouring all other branches. They are devouring it, and the people in congress are so stupid, so insipid or so in on the game, they are going to find themselves irrelevant wildly fast. We must guard all three branches of government. It is a shell game. It is a transformation.

  32. ohiobelle says:

    I can’t believe how many czars we have!!! Doesn’t anybody see what’s happening to our country??? I can’t stand it anymore!

  33. ohiobelle says:

    I honestly believe this is a deliberate attempt to harm our country.

  34. VotingFemale says:

    I, however, am a Constitutional WatchCat

    rawooowrrrrrrrr pshtttt

  35. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, Obama is hell bent on revenge for slavery

  36. ohiobelle says:

    Thank you vf!

    Glenn Beck didn’t say anything about the $200 per car cleanup fee that the dealerships have to pay! Al Gore is making them put something in the engine before the car is destroyed!! Why should dealerships have to pay this cost?

  37. ohiobelle says:

    Belle, Obama is hell bent on revenge for slavery

    I feel like the white people are under attack in this country?? Do you think CNN will ever do White In America? lol

  38. ohiobelle says:

    hahahhahaha!! Constitutional WatchCat!!

    I’ll be the WatchDog…. grrrrrrrrrrr…

  39. VotingFemale says:

    hell the dealerships cant even get the Government payment for the clash for clunkers to go through… the red tape is endless…

    hahahahahahahahahahahaha

  40. VotingFemale says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    nope… Whitey will simply be “cleansed from existence”

    Belle the Constitutional Watchdog says

    I feel like the white people are under attack in this country?? Do you think CNN will ever do White In America? lol

  41. ohiobelle says:

    vf wrote: hell the dealerships cant even get the Government payment for the clash for clunkers to go through… the red tape is endless…

    hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    I believe it’s about 50 pages they have to fill out per customer.

  42. ohiobelle says:

    vf… lol

    nope… Whitey will simply be “cleansed from existence”

    I hear I have a few FEMA camps around my area. I’ll save you a spot.. lol

  43. VotingFemale says:

    yeah, it is reported to be about as complicated as an income tax return…

    Government Motors… they take ownership of your computer contents after you try to get reimbursed for th $4500 Govt giveaway of borrowed money taxpayers are on the hook for.

    The Inmates are Running the Asylum

  44. ohiobelle says:

    I’ll even pack up enough commie chow for you, my commie friend. lol

  45. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, The Military announced they are ready to establish Martial Law when the Swine Flu is turned into a civil crisis…

    This all gets deeper and deeper…

  46. VotingFemale says:

    ohhh yummie… Obamie Commie Chow

    Wonder if it is fortified with aborted fetus parts, and old people parts who are too expensive to give health care to.

  47. ohiobelle says:

    vf wrote: The Inmates are Running the Asylum

    You bet they are!

    What I’ve seen happening around here is making me so mad.

  48. VotingFemale says:

    While we see it all… the real joke is on the sheep who Baaaa-Lieve Obaaaa-maaaa

  49. VotingFemale says:

    They have been fed hatred to the point of Jehad on all Conservatives [Whitey]

  50. VotingFemale says:

    And they will go down with the rest of us…

    Stupid Bastards, that they are

    baaa-BAAAAAAA-Baaaa

  51. ohiobelle says:

    Belle, The Military announced they are ready to establish Martial Law when the Swine Flu is turned into a civil crisis…

    What? Are you kidding? I would rather die then trust any vaccine Obama & Co would make us take! We’d probably be paralized just as Obamacare passes!

  52. ohiobelle says:

    I have so little faith in our government. I honestly think they’d use swine flu to get their nationalized health care.

  53. VotingFemale says:

    It is no joke on the preparations being completed for Federal Troops to act when Martial Law is Delcared by Obama re: Swine Flu

    The Socialists are lining up Pregnant Women to be the first to get the shot… no fucking thank you very much.

    ohiobelle says

    Belle, The Military announced they are ready to establish Martial Law when the Swine Flu is turned into a civil crisis…

    What? Are you kidding? I would rather die then trust any vaccine Obama & Co would make us take! We’d probably be paralized just as Obamacare passes!

  54. VotingFemale says:

    Belle, they are holding back the majority of the 787 billion Pigzilla Money for next year… the mid-term election year… as giveaways for political leverage.

  55. ohiobelle says:

    They are probably waiting until later in the hurricane season to pass cap & trade!

  56. VotingFemale says:

    This is like a fucking nightmare…

  57. ohiobelle says:

    I’ll be right back… I must take blood pressure medicine!!!!

    vf wrote:

    Belle, they are holding back the majority of the 787 billion Pigzilla Money for next year… the mid-term election year… as giveaways for political leverage.

  58. ohiobelle says:

    Can’t anybody do something? I feel so helpless!! OMG!

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  60. ohiobelle says:

    I would like a new election. I would like to see how many votes Obama would get today??

  61. VotingFemale says:

    SEC. 1076. USE OF THE ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.

    (a) Use of the Armed Forces Authorized-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Section 333 of title 10, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

    `Sec. 333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law

    `(a) Use of Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies- (1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to–

    `(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that–

    `(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and

    `(ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or

    `(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).

    `(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that–

    `(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

    `(B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

    `(3) In any situation covered by paragraph (1)(B), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

    `(b) Notice to Congress- The President shall notify Congress of the determination to exercise the authority in subsection (a)(1)(A) as soon as practicable after the determination and every 14 days thereafter during the duration of the exercise of that authority.’ (See ext of HR5122 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:6:./temp/~c109bW9vKy:e939907: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-5122&tab=summary

    These far-reaching provisions allow the Armed Forces to override the authority of civilian federal, state and local governments involved in disaster relief and public health. It also grants the Military a mandate in civilian police functions. Namely the legislation implies the militarization of law enforcement in the case of a national emergency.

  62. ohiobelle says:

    The flu season is upon us. Which type will we worry about this year, and what kind of shots will we be told to take? Remember the swine flu scare of 1976? That was the year the U.S. government told us all that swine flu could turn out to be a killer that could spread across the nation, and Washington decided that every man, woman and child in the nation should get a shot to prevent a nation-wide outbreak, a pandemic!!!

    UGH!!! I AM CHEWING ON MY BENICAR!!!!

    DEAR MR PREZ,

    I AM NOT TAKING ONE OF YOUR SHOTS!!!! B.T.W. SOCIALISM SUCKS!!

    F OFF,
    OHIOBELLE

  63. ohiobelle says:

    VF, Are you trying to give me a heart attack? lol

  64. VotingFemale says:

    Belle… just submit to your ObamaShot. It wont hurt long…

  65. ohiobelle says:

    I think Obama will use fear to chase us into the FEMA camps!

    He wants everybody to see what the Katrina victims felt like. I am scared!

  66. VotingFemale says:

    Imagine the Zombie in the Pic above administering the shots to Whitey… and relax… lol

  67. ohiobelle says:

    vf wrote: Belle… just submit to your ObamaShot. It wont hurt long…

    YOU FIRST MY LOVELY KITTY!! TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM. LOL

  68. ohiobelle says:

    Imagine the Zombie in the Pic above administering the shots to Whitey… and relax… lol

    I just fell over laughing!!

    That clown would be the perfect ending. lol

  69. VotingFemale says:

    well… we can survive anything Obama can throw at us…

    Above all his Poll numbers tell the story… as they slip slide away…

    listen to this song Belle and get your BP back down sweetie pie…

  70. ohiobelle says:

    I will be wearing my sweater with the big red R! I assume you will be the kitty with the bandage around your leg… lol ObamaShot!

  71. VotingFemale says:

    No political race in sight, but Hillary Clinton’s camp is election-ready

    WASHINGTON – Hillary Clinton says running for office isn’t on her “radar,” but she still has an eight-person political team and sports two overflowing campaign war chests.

    Her team transformed the former Democratic White House contender’s massive campaign debts into a $3 million mountain of political cash, according to federal fund-raising records through the end of June.

    Clinton’s failed presidential bid is now $1 million in the black, and her old Senate campaign committee has $2.1 million in the bank, much of it transferred in from the presidential account.

    The former First Lady paid eight staffers nearly $100,000 in the second quarter of the year to tend to the remains of her political empire.

    She officially pulled out of the political arena in January when she became secretary of state. But Clinton’s campaign Web site continues to accept contributions.

    Democratic operatives were surprised at the size of the operation. “She’s got eight?” said one Democrat. “Can I get a job there?”

    By comparison, Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is up for reelection next year, had just three people on staff last quarter.

    One of Clinton’s remaining campaign workers said they were just there to wind down what was essentially a $250 million business, and would soon cut staff to five people.

    The worker noted John Kerry didn’t terminate his 2004 White House campaign for more than three years after he lost.

    The aide also said Team Clinton is looking to liquidate her presidential bank account, either by giving the money to other candidates or donating it to charity.

    Clinton is adamant she’s not running for anything, telling a Thai TV station recently, “That’s not anything that is at all on my radar screen.” And she told ABC News on Sunday, “I’m out of politics.”

    But analysts said as long as Clinton has a campaign committee with millions of dollars in it – dormant or not – she has weight in the political world.

    “It raises questions about that nascent presidential campaign for 2016 – and she didn’t close the door on that, if you read her remarks carefully,” said the University of Virginia’s Larry Sabato.

    “Just having the committee and the money gives her political clout, if she ever needs it,” Sabato said.

    A former Clinton senior campaign aide told the Daily News that her current job running the State Department would position her perfectly for a White House campaign redux.

    “It answers the last question about her: can she run something?” the aide said. “And it’s a huge platform.”

  72. m2 says:

    from the article, lol:

    “In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if ole’ Bill and his buds were undercutting Obama in Congress. I mean, how is it that the Democrat-controlled CBO is suddenly telling the truth about the certifiably insane MediCoup that Obama is trying to pull off? The CBO wasn’t supposed to do that.”

  73. ohiobelle says:

    from the article, lol:

    They’ve been watching the Obumbler paint himself into one corner after the next, over and over again, and salivating at the chance they knew would come. Comes the looming catastrophe of ObamaScare, and Hillary starts nipping at Obi’s ankles like a mad Chihuahua.

  74. ohiobelle says:

    I don’t know what to think of Hillary anymore…
    Hell, anybody is better than Barry! lol

  75. m2 says:

    more from AT …ha ha:
    “All the Democrats in Congress are running scared, caught between the wild-eyed fanatics of Obamaland and tens of millions of voters, who are finally glomming on to the fact that they’ve been sold a complete bill of goods by the liberal media — again!!!”

  76. m2 says:

    Belle, there are conspiracy theory sites… I kid you not, that claim Hillary C. is the “last President of the United States” and the real anti-christ.

    LOL

    and that by “deduction” (this is the big thing here for the conspiracists) Obama is just part of the process. They believed no one would have elected Hillary (as a nation) …of course Dems would, but by putting in someone so far left, now “by method of deduction” the nation will take Hillary over anyone that resembles Obama. It’s very eerie and I recommend no one read those stupid sites…

  77. m2 says:

    I’d probably take HC over Obama. I still feel she’s more in tune with American values.

  78. ohiobelle says:

    M2, I never go to any of those sites but I don’t rule anything out. I’ve always feared the government would have knowledge of a future terrorist attack or meteor shower and not tell us until the last minute. That’s why these FEMA camps bother me. Maybe they know something is going to happen? I know it sounds stupid…

  79. ohiobelle says:

    M2 wrote: I’d probably take HC over Obama. I still feel she’s more in tune with American values.

    I am not so sure about Hillary. I would’ve voted for her in the past but I don’t like what I see now. She’s more progressive than I thought. She actually could do more harm than Obama.

  80. m2 says:

    I agree… I found this conspiracy site that said the above by chance in a forum. But all their theories had been proven wrong! Which made me laugh. They said that Obama would be made to step down and Hillary take over before he even took office. I spent 5 min. on there. There are some real loons and most of them are religious weirdos. I’ve seen those people on ireport too. 1 is a liberal. LOL.

    the FEMA camps are bothersome.
    and the shot too.

    I hear the flu shot will be 4 shots given to kids or something.

    I don’t want to do it!

  81. m2 says:

    No I don’t think so Belle.

    I tend to thing that the Clintons are pragmatists. And Obama is an ideologue, who happens to believe in Radical ideology.

    Remember even Clinton thought his Stalinist campaign tactics were too much.

    Bill was left but ruled from the center b/c the country wanted that.

    Obama is left but doesn’t give a shit, he’s prepared to go down in flames in order to change this country forever. Once they have their system in place, like Glenn said- the exoskeleton, which is pretty much there… it’s all theirs and we are all slaves to the radical elites.

    A community organizer.

    SNORT.

    Knowing all the CRAP we know about ACORN now, and the country put an ACORN community organizer in the highest position of the nation.

  82. m2 says:

    here is a comment from an AT commenter, good one too:

    In order for a Progressive Marxist movement to gain traction it is essential that the bulk of their members follow the party line, no deviance can be tolerated. They know their positions well: if they are zealous in their support they may acquire the position of “Useful Idiot,” to rise beyond that milestone, guarantees admittance into the realm of the ruling elite. This is the world of wealth and power, whether a Liberal is aware of this unofficial party organization or not is immaterial: they all have the knowledge and desire to direct our lives and the world we live in to give us a better life for all of mankind. Educated or not, this is the creed of the Liberal, which is only a precursor for a Communist.

    The state run propaganda bureaus are merely spokes in the wheel of Communism, unless a spoke is physically knocked out of position, it serves as a fundamental component that connects the wheel or the masses to the hub or the central party headquarters. They are a static part of the wheel, there is no deviance or the wheel collapses. To view them as a news organization is an insult to real journalists. Like trolls in the blogosphere, it is best to ignore them and regard their message as inconsequential. As soon as the public regards them as irrelevant, the sooner the Communist Front will collapse.

  83. ohiobelle says:

    M2 wrote: I hear the flu shot will be 4 shots given to kids or something.

    Not my kids. Obama & Co will not tell me what they have to take!

    I still think Clintons are the cause for many of our problems. I still think if Bill would’ve reacted to the Cole attack or the Embassy bombings then 9-11 MAY have been prevented.

  84. ohiobelle says:

    I also believe the Clintons support ACORN just as much as Obama does.

  85. m2 says:

    I think so too… I think anything Clinton did well -the surplus, etc. was because of the Republican Congress.

    but sometimes I just think, ANYONE but Obama. You know?

    as our right to our own destiny is destroyed every day.

  86. ohiobelle says:

    That explains everything. The Clintons are the leaders of the Progressive Marxist movement and Obama is their “Useful Idiot”. lol

  87. m2 says:

    I was having near panic attacks this morning thinking about the rationed healthcare and what if I couldn’t just call my doc and go in today?

    Like I would.
    Because I have quite a few minor health problems.

    I hate this healthcare. Everyone does.
    Kill the bill!

  88. ohiobelle says:

    I wish the Republicans were “conservative” when they were in power!! Had they been then we would not be going down this road. I blame both parties for what is happening today.

  89. ohiobelle says:

    M2 wrote: I was having near panic attacks this morning thinking about the rationed healthcare and what if I couldn’t just call my doc and go in today?

    I am worried about Countrywide Dodd. When he gets his ass thrown out of office, I hope our new health care system can save him from testicular cancer.

  90. m2 says:

    yes, the Repubs screwed up. BUT THE DEMS ARE THE DEVIL… I’m pretty sure.

    Repubs are still playing by the rules of the game.
    Dems have crapped on all respect, tolerance and rules… they just don’t care what they look like (ie. Pelosi, Obama)

    Did you notice how the most animated and genuine Obama has been, was when he talked about the racism by the police in that presser?

    ugh. They need to ALL be pink-slipped.

    For what it’s worth, Republicans are doing okay now. Even M. Steele is getting on the ball. But they are still being too polite, and probably right not to sink to the Dem gutter level, maybe the Dems will do their own party in just by being who they are.

  91. m2 says:

    Rush said the other day something like ‘ask Dodd if he will be going to Canada or going to France to recieve his treatment’.

    LOL

    belle wrote: I am worried about Countrywide Dodd. When he gets his ass thrown out of office, I hope our new health care system can save him from testicular cancer.

  92. ohiobelle says:

    Unfortunately Countrywide Dodd is too old to save. You know that cut off line that will continue to drop… At least he’ll have the opportunity to choose how to die.

  93. m2 says:

    Dumbing down America, you got that right. That’s my biggest problem with the democratic party and Obama. They give you the line that they are concerned about the little guy, the poor, the hard working average American. Fact is they could care less about them or any of us. They have programmed this country into hating the rich and successful, the real hard workers who love this country. Their plan is to keep everyone dumb. That’s why they are against school choice. Somebody explain to me how a poor mother in a city of drugs and crime can still vote democratic while the democrats refuse to give their kids an education in a charter or private school. Where charter schools are successful the democrats are shutting them down like they are doing in Washington D.C. On top of this charter schools are cheaper to run. The reason is that these urban cities that have a high school graduation rate of about 30% have become nothing more that a democratic voter breeding ground. You see, in a charter school or private school instead of giving your child a condom or telling them that its ok for little Joey to kiss little Brad, your child will learn how to read and write, they will learn math, history and geography. They will be given the building blocks for a successful career. Democrats don’t want people to think and they don’t want your kids to get an education. That’s a fact.

  94. ohiobelle says:

    Countrywide Dodd will have the best state run nationalized health care in prison… good luck Dodd!

  95. m2 says:

    Choice is becoming a rarity these days Belle. In healthcare -Dem way, that means 1 size fits all care, and you will do as you are told.

    or else!

    belle says:
    Unfortunately Countrywide Dodd is too old to save. You know that cut off line that will continue to drop… At least he’ll have the opportunity to choose how to die.

  96. ohiobelle says:

    Dumbing down America?? Maybe this is why the talk slow to us.. lol

    The Democrats will not be happy until every state looks like Mass, California and Michigan.. YEA!! ALL A RESULT OF GOING GREEN, NATIONALIZED HEALTH CARE AND GOVERNMENT MOTORS!!! WOW, THE DEMS ARE HERE TO SAVE THE DAY!

  97. m2 says:

    Belle, Dodd should have been made to step down long ago.

    Just like Barney Frank should
    Just like Charlie Wrangle should.

    Just like when Republicans cheat or screw up they step down.

    But the Democrat party generally elevates their corrupt to a higher position.

  98. ohiobelle says:

    I am really going to miss Barney Fudd… lol

  99. m2 says:

    Did you know that he had a gay prostitution brothel running out of his house BEFORE he came to be a rep at D.C. ?

    ???

    what the?

  100. m2 says:

    US Unemployment Up In All 372 Metro Areas In June Vs Yr Ago

    WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)–The unemployment rate climbed in all of the U.S.’s biggest urban areas during June, and 18 places had joblessness of at least 15%.

  101. m2 says:

    Guess who said the following words:

    I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us.

    Who said that?

    Barack Hussein Obama. Yes, really.

    I hope the Obama White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of Barack Obama.

    Where’s your birth certificate, Barry?

    Where are your college records, Barry?

    Where are your passport records, Barry?

    Before the Senate can confirm your Supreme Court nominee, the Senate must first put to rest the questions about your eligibility by:

    1) Inspecting an official copy of your original birth certificate, delivered under seal directly from the State of Hawaii, and

    2) Asking the Supreme Court to clarify the definition of “natural born citizen” so that the senate can support and defend the Constitution (relevant sections include Article II Section 1, and the 12th, 14th, and 20th Amendments).

    It is your duty to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate your record and your eligibility to hold the office of President.

  102. m2 says:

    That was from Michelle Malkin’s site.

  103. m2 says:

    OMG!!! THE BANKING QUEEN!! Me and hubby love this one. Rush is so great!!

    zero down!

  104. m2 says:

    mmm hmmm… that woman got an extra 11 bucks in her paycheck and well, nevermind- she’s probably unemployed, like everyone else.

  105. ohiobelle says:

    I bet that girl is so pissed right now. lol

  106. m2 says:

    my favorite!

  107. ohiobelle says:

    OMG!!! THE BANKING QUEEN!! Me and hubby love this one. Rush is so great!!

    zero down!

    We love it!!

    It’s getting ready to pour down rain. I’ll be right back.. doggies outside.

  108. ohiobelle says:

    That is awesome!!!!

    M2, let’s tell the story… This is how he got elected…

  109. ohiobelle says:

    Congrats.. This man became our CEO of the United States.

  110. m2 says:

    yes that is scary belle.

  111. m2 says:

    I’m telling you, that Obama Civilian army is the stage after Healthcare, and they are tying it into Education. Now that only the gov’t can issue loans (house bill passed July 15) they will mandate service to the state to get money.

  112. ohiobelle says:

    m2, yours are great! I’ve got some more.

  113. m2 says:

    BELLE that video is right on the money.

    I can’t tell you how creepy Obama’s FASCIST imagery is to me.

  114. ohiobelle says:

    This was the video I meant to copy. Everybody remembers this moment… I almost had a stroke!!!!

  115. m2 says:

    yes. and don’t forget the organized youth that sing songs of Obama… there are quite a few of those!

  116. m2 says:

    will we all have to be tattooed with the Obama-flag?

  117. m2 says:

    That’s sick.

    they don’t even care about the country. He’s been molded to take the place of country. That O flag is is sick.

  118. ohiobelle says:

    hahaha. I am going to have to leave you with this one last one. THIS IS SCARY!!

    YES WE CAN DESTROY AMERICA!!! HMM.. ARE THEY STILL CHANTING TODAY??

  119. m2 says:

    The O flag thing really does remind one of the swastika. I didn’t even realize it until the video you put that clearly shows the similarities in cult of personality and fascist imagery/and PROPAGANDA.

  120. m2 says:

    Yes, we’re going out.. it was good to catch you on here though!

  121. ohiobelle says:

    Whoops… this will help.. lol

    ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibYetJZpCX8

  122. ohiobelle says:

    screw the link.. lol It was stupid anyway. I can’t seem to copy it right.

    It was great to catch up. I will talk to you soon.

  123. m2 says:

    wonder why it’s not showing up in the comment field… oh well..

  124. m2 says:

    bye! have a good saturday afternoon! 😀

  125. ohiobelle says:

    Thank you… hahah

  126. m2 says:

    that video should have used the State-mandated, “O-Flag”… the country flag has to be changed

  127. ohiobelle says:

    ahh M2 great video.

    I’m stuck doing something for work. I shouldn’t be much longer.

    be back soon!

  128. ohiobelle says:

    M2, you’ll appreciate this… I’m so ticked! I had vacation time that my old job just cut me a check for, it was only $2,000.00 but they took over $900.00 in taxes!!! Can you imagine what it’s going to be like after health care passes and cap & trade??? MY GOD! I guess they don’t want us to have too much money!

  129. ohiobelle says:

    I am going to have to get a second job just to make sure Obama gets his fair share!!

  130. ohiobelle says:

    Well done Mr Redistributor CEO of the Union States of America! Well done!! Please make sure your czars are paying their fair share as well. We know that you only appointed czars so they wouldn’t have to be bothered by that crazy vetting process that kept getting in your way!

  131. LisaInTX says:

    From the link VF posted above.

    SEC. 1076. USE OF THE ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.

    (a) Use of the Armed Forces Authorized-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Section 333 of title 10, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

    `Sec. 333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law

    `(a) Use of Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies- (1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to–

    `(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that–

    `(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and

    `(ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or

    `(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).

    `(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that–

    `(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

    `(B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

    `(3) In any situation covered by paragraph (1)(B), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

    `(b) Notice to Congress- The President shall notify Congress of the determination to exercise the authority in subsection (a)(1)(A) as soon as practicable after the determination and every 14 days thereafter during the duration of the exercise of that authority.’ (See ext of HR5122 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:6:./temp/~c109bW9vKy:e939907: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-5122&tab=summary

    These far-reaching provisions allow the Armed Forces to override the authority of civilian federal, state and local governments involved in disaster relief and public health. It also grants the Military a mandate in civilian police functions. Namely the legislation implies the militarization of law enforcement in the case of a national emergency.

    “Catastrophic Emergency” and “Continuity of Government,”: The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20

    Coinciding with the passage of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, a National Security Presidential Directive was issued in May 2007, (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential DirectiveNSPD 51/HSPD 20) .

    NSPD 51 /HSPD 20 is a combined National Security Directive emanating from the White House and Homeland Security. While it is formulated in relation to the domestic “war on terrorism”, it also includes provisions which allow for Martial Law in case of a natural disaster including a flu pandemic.

    The thrust and emphasis of NSPD 51, however, is different from that of Section 1076 of HR 5122. It defines the functions of the Department of Homeland Security in the case of a national emergency and its relationship to the White House and the Military. It also provides the President with sweeping powers to declare a national emergency, without Congressional approval.

    The directive establishes procedures for “Continuity of Government” (COG) in the case of a “Catastrophic Emergency”. The latter is defined in NSPD 51/HSPD 20 (henceforth referred to as NSPD 51), as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.”

    “Continuity of Government,” or “COG,” is defined in NSPD 51 as “a coordinated effort within the Federal Government’s executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency.”

    The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counter terrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination. (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential DirectiveNSPD 51/HSPD 20, emphasis added)

    This Combined Directive NSPD /51 HSPD 20 grants unprecedented powers to the Presidency and the Department of Homeland Security, overriding the foundations of Constitutional government. NSPD 51 allows the sitting president to declare a �national emergency� without Congressional approval The adoption of NSPD 51 would lead to the de facto closing down of the Legislature and the militarization of justice and law enforcement.

    NSPD 51 grants extraordinary Police State powers to the White House and Homeland Security (DHS), in the event of a “Catastrophic Emergency”.

    A flu pandemic or public health emergency is part of the terms of reference of NSPD 51. “Catastrophic Emergency” is broadly defined in NSPD 51 as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions”

    “The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counter terrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination. (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20, emphasis added)

    The directive acknowledges the overriding power of the military in the case of a national emergency: The presidential directive “Shall not be construed to impair or otherwise affect… the authority of the Secretary of Defense over the Department of Defense, including the chain of command for military forces from the President, to the Secretary of Defense, to the commander of military forces, or military command and control procedures”.

    Since their enactment two years ago, neither the John Warner Defense Authorization Act nor NSPD 51 have been the object of media debate or discussion.

  132. LisaInTX says:

    NSPD 51 and/or the John Warner H.R.5122 could be invoked at short notice following the declaration of a national health emergency and a nationwide forced vaccination program. The hidden agenda consists in using the threat of a pandemic and/or the plight of a natural disaster as a pretext to establish military rule, under the facade of a “functioning democracy”.

  133. LisaInTX says:

    National Emergency Centers Establishment Act: H.R. 645

    If Martial Law or a National emergency were to be adopted in the context of a Public Health emergency, what we would be dealing with is the “forced vaccination” of millions of people as well as the establishment of internment facilities for people who have been quarantined.

    In this regard, it is worth noting that in January 2009, a piece of legislation entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645) was introduced in the US Congress.The bill calls for the establishment of six national emergency centers in major regions in the US to be located on existing military installations, which could be used to quarantine people in the case of a public health emergency or forced vaccination program.

    The bill goes far beyond previous legislation (including H.R 5122). The stated purpose of the “national emergency centers” is to provide “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster.” In actuality, what we are dealing with are FEMA internment camps. HR 645 states that the camps can be used to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.” (Michel Chossudovsky, Preparing for Civil Unrest in America Legislation to Establish Internment Camps on US Military Bases, Global Research, March 2009)

    There has been virtually no press coverage of HR 645, which is currently being discussed by several congressional committees.

    These “civilian facilities” on US military bases are to be established in cooperation with the US Military. Modeled on Guantanamo, what we are dealing with is the militarization of FEMA internment facilities.

    Once a person is arrested and interned in a FEMA camp located on a military base, that person would in all likelihood, under a public health emergency, fall under the de facto jurisdiction of the Military: civilian justice and law enforcement including habeas corpus would no longer apply.

    HR 645 could be used, were it to be adopted, in the case of public health emergency. It obviously bears a direct relationship to the economic crisis and the likelihood of mass protests across America. It constitutes a further move to militarize civilian law enforcement, repealing the Posse Comitatus Act.

    In the words of Rep. Ron Paul:

    “…the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough… Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt-based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next.” (Daily Paul, September 2008, emphasis added)

    The proposed internment camps should be seen in relation to the broader process of militarization of civilian institutions. The construction of internment camps predates the introduction of HR 645 (Establishment of Emergency Centers) in January 2009.

  134. samhenry says:

    Hi all – I heard on CNN that yes the Prez has sinking poll numbers but then they got into job approval ratings where he is again low. They pointed out that the Republican figures have not moved – that they have not benefit ted from the Obama demise and that they are not an alternative. Any thoughts?

    Have to feed me and the dogs – bbl

  135. LisaInTX says:

    Also of relevance, was the repatriation of combat units from the war theater to assist US Northern Command in the case of a national emergency including a flu pandemic. In the last months of the Bush administration, the Department of Defense ordered the recall of the 3rd Infantry’s 1st Brigade Combat Team from Iraq.

    The BCT combat unit was attached to US Army North, the Army’s component of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM). The 1st BCT and other combat units would be called upon to perform specific military functions in the case of a national emergency or natural disaster including a public health emergency:

    “The Army Times reports that the 3rd Infantry’s 1st Brigade Combat Team is returning from Iraq to defend the Homeland, as “an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.” The BCT unit has been attached to US Army North, the Army’s component of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM). (See Gina Cavallaro, Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1, Army Times, September 8, 2008, emphasis added).

  136. VotingFemale says:

    A Reminder of What Ain’t Free

  137. samhenry says:

    Drive by drop

    (CBS) An attorney for former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has denied a report that she and her husband are planning to divorce.

    Sarah Palin’s attorney, Thomas Van Flein, told CBS News that the report of a divorce is “categorically false.”

    The Web site Alaskareport.com, citing “multiple sources,” claimed today that the couple was planning to divorce. A similar report had been posted on the blog The Immoral Minority.

    Another Palin attorney, Robert Barnett, also told CBS News that the divorce rumors were “totally untrue.”

    Among the points made to try to support the divorce claim was a purchase by Sarah Palin of land in Montana; the suggestion that the Palins were “noticeably not speaking to each other” during her appearance in Fairbanks last Sunday when she formally handed over the governor’s office to Sean Parnell; and a report that she had been seen not wearing a wedding ring.

    Van Flein told CBS News the report of a land buy in Montana is false.

    CBS News producer Scott Conroy, who followed Palin on the campaign trail last year, said the story of the couple not speaking to each other appears to be untrue.

    As for the wedding ring, CBS News Political Director Steve Chaggaris said, Sarah Palin often campaigned without it.

  138. SamHenry says:

    I’m baaaaaaaaaaaack. We really need to strike back at this one:

    But whatever the problems faced by Obama and his party, they still earn higher approval ratings than other Washington leaders or the Republican Party, according to the Public Trust Monitor poll. And the loss in trust in Democrats did not correspond with a gain for the GOP: Trust in Republicans fell from 40 percent in March to 36 percent in the recent survey.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin also took small hits in public trust, slipping to 24 percent from 26 percent and to 35 percent from 38 percent. Only 15 percent of respondents said they trust House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), while 32 percent said they trust former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a likely 2012 Republican presidential candidate, and 24 percent said they trust Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, one of the principal architects of the Obama administration’s economic policy.

    The poll is based on 1,000 online surveys of registered voters conducted July 9-12 by Public Strategies Inc., a public relations and business advisory firm based in Austin, Texas, in conjunction with POLITICO, and has a 3.1 percentage point margin of error.

  139. SamHenry says:

    Washington Post

    Now we cut to the chase – poll data not in yet on Gates effect on Obama approval. Below slippage among whites measureable in Pew poll.

    Posted at 11:21 AM ET, 07/30/2009
    A Gates Effect?
    Did President Obama accelerate his public image problems by venturing into the racial politics swirling around Henry Louis Gates Jr.’s arrest in Cambridge?

    That’s the intriguing contention found in an analysis from the Pew Research Center: in their new poll, Obama’s overall approval rating among whites tumbled seven points from just after his press conference last Wednesday through the weekend, as the focus turned increasingly to his handling of the situation. The percentage of whites who “like” the kind of person he is fell by six.

    In a callback survey Monday evening, more than twice as many whites disapproved than approved of how Obama was handling the matter (45 percent disapprove, 22 approve, 33 percent don’t know).

    Of course, many things were shifting in Washington at the tail-end of last week when Pew was interviewing for this poll, but the new numbers are stark, as the Gates story took up nearly a third of total newshole by Friday, according to a separate analysis by the Project for Excellence in Journalism.

    On health care, the week’s still-dominant issue, Obama slipped five points among whites from Wednesday and Thursday nights to Friday and the weekend. On other specific issues, the changes were smaller, or nonexistent.

    Another caveat is that Obama’s slippage in the polls predates the brouhaha over the Gates incident, with Obama on a downward trajectory for the month. Regardless, among other goals for this evening’s beer summit with Gates and arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley, Obama may hope to douse any flames of discontent stoked by his handling of the situation.

  140. SamHenry says:

    At the Pew Website, the above is further discussed. Of concern IMO is the following – leading to class warfare:

    But reactions to the methods proposed to make sure more people have access to health care coverage are mixed. A thin 52% majority favor a government health insurance plan to compete with private plans. There is broad support (63%), however, for raising the taxes on affluent people to help pay for changes to the health care system. On the other hand, there is equally strong opposition (62%) to new taxes on employees with health insurance benefits above a certain value. Most (58%) also oppose putting tighter restrictions on what medical procedures Medicare and Medicaid will cover.

  141. SamHenry says:

    VF will appreciate your comments on some of these polls. Yes, we don’t truly trust polls but beyond that.

  142. SamHenry says:

    OK – found what I was looking for to counter above poll that Repubs not gaining in light of Obama failings:

    Gallup Poll:
    A recent public opinion survey by the Gallup organization contains a clear message that independent voters may be becoming concerned about their decision to place one-party rule in the hands of the Democrats.

    The poll, conducted July 17-19, had some interesting findings. Some 59 percent of the respondents said that the Obama administration’s proposals called for too much federal spending. Not surprisingly, 90 percent of Republicans felt that way, compared to only 28 percent of Democrats. But a solid 66 percent of independents expressed strong concern about the high level of federal spending.

    In a similar vein, 52 percent of the respondents felt that the Obama agenda was moving toward too great an expansion of the federal government. Again, 83 percent of Republicans held that view while only 17 percent of Democrats concurred. But 60 percent of independent voters expressed a concern that the federal government is growing too large, too fast.

    Other recent polling data show that the president’s popularity is falling, support for his handling of key issues is diminished, and the generic ballot question of whether the voters would prefer a Democrat or Republican in Congress is moving more in the direction of the Republicans. Next year is an election year in which every House member and roughly a third of the Senate face elections. That being the case, this recent Gallup poll should be a wake-up call for the president and the congressional members of his party.

    from bayoubuzz.com – too lazy to go directly to Galllup site. Imagine.

  143. SamHenry says:

    Finally:

    Good news for 210 – from gallup.com

    Bottom Line

    Gallup’s initial read on 2010 midterm election voting preferences shows Democrats with a slight lead among registered voters, but one that is hardly large enough to suggest they are in a solid position with more than a year left before votes are cast.

    Historically, the party whose president occupies the White House loses seats in a midterm election. Thus, the Democrats would probably expect to lose some of the seats they won in the House in 2006 and 2008. However, parties have been able to minimize their party’s losses if not make gains in midterm elections when the president was popular, as in the 1998 and 2002 midterm elections. Although President Obama has been quite popular for much of his presidency, his approval ratings have declined in recent weeks.

    Survey Methods

    Results are based on telephone interviews with 916 registered voters, aged 18 and older, conducted July 10-12, 2009. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

    Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).

    In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

  144. SamHenry says:

    Lessons learned from the above: As VF has said all along that Obama will do himself in. All we have to do is sit back and watch.

    Pollsters tend to view the traditional Democrat – Republican divide; they do not look to the important Independent factor. Obama needs them to succeed. This is why it was difficult to dig down to get the true picture of alternatives to Obama and what the chances would be for an Indepandent – Republican coalition to win in 210 and in 2012.

    Remember this voters. Conservatives are NOT chasing myths as many columnists opine – columinsts not on the ground with Conservatives. They also have not done their homework. And they don’t listen to the ground for hoofbeats indicating the quick exit from the Obama White House by Independents, etc.

    Finally, the Obama Administration is considering getting Michele involved again to help health care but be warned – it will only raise the spectre of patient dumping – a subject that has dogged her for years.

  145. ohiobelle says:

    I can’t stick around because we have dinner plans but I am just so ticked off at something going on in our area and I want to see what you guys think.

    I hope somebody can make sense of this! I just found out that Government Motors sent a letter to a local dealership saying welcome to the new GM!!! This dealership just filed bankruptcy and yet they were able to keep their doors open!! Another dealership in Columbus is #5 (in the whole country) in customer retention yet was told their dealership was to shut down!! It seems like the great dealerships are being told they must close their doors!

  146. SamHenry says:

    Why do we think we need a government run plan to make health care work? Perhaps Jindal’s most intelligent statement to date. He’s on CNN.

    Right now, Medicare shifts costs to the private sector and pays doctors artifically low reimbursements. Imagine when private insurance sponge no longer there to soak up the excess.

    And from other commentators the point that without reform in the areas of malpractice and control of drug costs and with the addition of the huge bureaucracy to run the new health care system – costs WILL go up and go up a lot.

  147. SamHenry says:

    This is not the SAMH blog so I will stop barking and resume nappping – I’m very tired today.

    yawn – stretch – overboard. REfreshing.

  148. ohiobelle says:

    I think if you own your dealership and the land then the government wants nothing to do with you! If they can’t control you then your doors will be shut!

    It’s happening all over the place in our area!!

  149. ohiobelle says:

    See you Sam.

    I have to take off myself. I will check back before I leave.

  150. SamHenry says:

    Belle – welcome to government run industry. The govenment is runningevery major sector of the economy.

    And hey are using their PR machine to bury Palin under miles of muck (eg she’s getting a divorce).

  151. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, believe me when I tell you, I know… sigh

    Sam wrote: Belle – welcome to government run industry. The govenment is runningevery major sector of the economy.

    They just can’t get away with this!! UGH!

  152. ohiobelle says:

    I for one didn’t want my tax dollars to go towards bankrupt companies! I would rather the good companies keep their doors open.

    Another bad investment by our government.

  153. ohiobelle says:

    I have alot more information about what they are doing. I will unleash it all if it doesn’t stop!!

  154. SamHenry says:

    And another thing about Palin – rember even if the divorce rumors were true, the stats for divorce of couples with a special needs child are very high. It is a terrible strain on a marriage.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07129/784323-114.stm

  155. ohiobelle says:

    I’ll be back after dinner.

  156. SamHenry says:

    Bell Mar is now on CNN dumping on Palin. It is amazing, the farther down Obama’s polls go, the more attention the liberals pay to Palin and want to dump on her and make her look crazed. Level playing field is not a phrase in their vocabulary.

  157. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, I checked back one last time.

    Liberal attacks are almost flattering. It means they are threatened by that person. lol

    They are scared to death of Palin! I LOVE IT!!

    I’ll talk to you later.

  158. SamHenry says:

    Wolf B is taking Mar to task for saying America is Dumb. Asked why, he said “because the could elect Sarah Palin.” But what about the fact that they elected Barack Obama? Well, there are bright people among the stupid. “The bright people are watching CNN right now; the not to bright are the ones writing e-mails.”

    WHAT AN ARROGANT B…..D.!

  159. LisaInTX says:

    Glen Beck 7.31.09

    Everyone has seen those online “agreements.” When you download software, etc. you will often times have to click on the “agree” at the end of the text to proceed.

    Do you want to participate in the “Cash for Clunkers Program?” Beck displayed a couple of paragraphs in the online agreement – that most people do not read all the way through – before they hit “agree.”

    What did this one say? Fairly standard stuff, except for the part where you, by your clicking the “agree” button, are giving the federal government the right to download everything on your computer!

    Ah, yes. Is this not a great program or what?

  160. samhenry says:

    Hi Lisa

    And on Facebook, when you take those tests like “what color are you, etc.’ there is a disclaimer that when you go to the site for the test, you agree to upload info from your facebook account and info about your friends. The sheeples are going along with this.

    Consider when Yahoo and Gmail e-mail accounts want you to upload your address books. What else are they uploading at the same time? I think we need to wake up.

  161. LisaInTX says:

    A message to all members of Patriotic Resistance

    Dear Patriots,

    Today is August 1st and we are running out of time to purchase airline tickets prior to the 30 day time period that will have cheaper rates! The hotel rooms and charter buses are filling up fast!

    With the current ObamaCare crisis and cap and trade still on the floor we need as many people as possible to come and be the face of America who are opposed to more spending at the cost our children and grand children and who know that nationalized healthcare is just another step closer to losing the Republic for which we stand!

    We have to get in their face and show them that WE the People have hired them! And WE the People will Fire them! WE aren’t going to allow the nation to run on auto pilot anymore…We Are Changing the System back to the foundations of our fore fathers!

    Here is the agenda:
    Tentative agenda for 9-10 through 9-12.

    Thursday, 9-10:
    Morning: Liberty Summit with select Congressmen and Senators
    Afternoon: Grassroots visits with Representatives and Senators (PINK SLIP TIME!)
    To set up an appointment with your Congressman and Senators, please contact Andrew Moylan of National Taxpayers Union. amoylan@ntu.org
    Evening: Open…Explore DC…Free Time

    Friday, 9-11:
    Morning: September 11th Never Forget memorial @ 9am
    Afternoon: Grassroots leadership training and Grassroots Activism seminars (grassfire classes free!)
    (there may be a separate charge for some of the classes provided)
    Evening: 4:30-6:30 Resistnet Meet and Greet Fellow Resistors!
    Freedomworks Dinner (there is a charge) or Explore DC

    Saturday, 9-12:
    8:00am Set up for stages and volunteers (Volunteers report)
    9:30am Lining up for march Freedom PLaza 14th and Penn.
    10:30am March begins and ends at the U.S. Capitol Building
    (handicapped persons in wheelchairs who want to march can be pushed, others will have a designated area at the Capitol Lawn)
    1:00pm Event/Protest Rally Starts at U.S. Capitol Lawn

    Register here:

    http://www.grassfire.org/118/signup.asp

    See you in DC!

    Visit Patriotic Resistance at: http://www.resistnet.com

  162. LisaInTX says:

    Congressman Bill Posey, a freshman Representative from Florida, has introduced a bill in the U.S. Congress that would require presidential candidates to provide a birth certificate and other documents to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

    His bill, H.R. 1503, is an amendment to the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, which increased required campaign fund disclosure and was later amended to establish the Federal Elections Commission. It’s language is short and to the point:

    “to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee’s statement of organization a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution.”

    It’s as simple as that — with this bill, we could prevent future “Barack Obamas” from running for President, unless they prove they are eligible!
    Representative Posey explained why he introduced this bill: “I was pretty surprised to find out that to run for president, despite the constitutional requirement and the media scrubbing that goes on, it’s not required for a candidate to file these documents when they submit their statement of candidacy with the FEC.”

    “But having been charged with reforming the elections in the State of Florida after the 2000 recounts and lawsuits, I thought I could offer a solution to this question on eligibility… if what some folks are worried about — that presidential candidates don’t have to submit to the same documentation that average folks have to submit to — well, then we can change that for the next election.”

    This is just common sense — but common sense is what is sorely lacking in Washington, D.C. these days. Why should there be two standards — one for playing Little League baseball, and one for running for President of the United States?

    Of course, Obama-maniacs insist that this is just an attack on their Messiah, Lord Obama. But it’s not an attack on Barack Obama; it’s just clarifying the issue for future elections! Once we pass this bill, we can be assured that future elections won’t have this problem.

    It IS true that, if it’s passed, this amendment to election law would require Mr. Obama, just like any other candidate, to provide a birth certificate in any future presidential election. And THAT is what REALLY has the Democrats worried — because they don’t want Barack Obama to have to produce his actual birth certificate if he runs for re-election!

  163. LisaInTX says:

    The American people DESERVE TO KNOW that their President is Constitutionally qualified. A new scientific public opinion survey of a cross-section of Americans, conducted by WorldNet Daily and Wenzel Strategies, shows that when Americans were asked if they are aware of the questions raised about Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office, 51.3 percent answered affirmatively, while only 18.7 percent said no. Americans are not only aware of questions about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office; almost HALF are either “troubled” by the questions or believe he should release all relevant documents including his long-form birth certificate.

    Keep in mind, Barack Obama hasn’t just refused to release his actual birth certificate. Among the documentation not yet available for him includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

    None of this means that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is — we just don’t know!

  164. samhenry says:

    Lisa – I have the time but not the money to go to DC or I’d be on that bus. Thanks for the info. Good to know what is going on!

  165. samhenry says:

    Hi, M2. Thanks for that Google info. I’ll just bet the Government occasionally asks them for some searches and reads on groups of people etc.

    I got nervous the minute I read that you can use your G-Mail account to sign into Facebook and Twitter. Scary. I am going to return to my roadrunner account. I went with G-mail because I go back and forth between road runner and the local tel company for the best rate. I swear these people behind these businesses AND the government count on the fact that we are all too busy and way too trusting to not give them what they want.

  166. LisaInTX says:

    Hi Samh
    Your welcome.
    I can’t go either, but I was hoping to pass on the info for those that live close or who could go.
    Wished I could be there to scream a few words out myself!!! >8-}

  167. samhenry says:

    Lisa – M2 I’m in and out. Trying to stay awake.

  168. m2 says:

    I’m back too momentarily…

    yes I have been uneasy about Google ever since I found out the CEO’s are mega-libs who love Obama.

    My brother-in-law works at Google.
    The place is out of control.

    They give them free lunch and dinner. It’s like a commune.

  169. samhenry says:

    Lisa – honestly it looks as if an early bedtime is winning. I hope to catch you later if I wake up or tomorrow.

  170. LisaInTX says:

    M2
    Thanks for the heads up on the goggle search…I have an account there and so does a good friend of mine….I passed your link on to her.

  171. LisaInTX says:

    Hmmmmmmmmm….Maybe I should change accts to another…yahoo most likely….

  172. m2 says:

    I know… did you know Google has Google “apps” with your gmail account. Where instead of Word you can use a Google “Document” (like word) and compose Word documents on the internet and access them from any computer.

    and now they have Google “Voice”…

    It is Big Brother.

    and though I’ve got two gmail accounts, I am seriously considering changing them!

  173. m2 says:

    See back in the day, I thought Google apps was cool. I thought Google maps was cool. I even composed word docs on Googles “Documents” app at work.

    I used to look at “Maps” and find my friends houses. You could see real time imaging of their house, their street!

    And now we have an Authoritarian in office who Google happens to just adddooooorrreeee!

  174. samhenry says:

    Google is moving to what is called “cloud” computing where everything will be done in the internet – no software on the machine.

  175. samhenry says:

    Lisa – Yahoo is in on all of this too and has just partnered with Microsoft on a search engine. I would keep your e-mail attached to your ISP.

  176. LisaInTX says:

    Well girls…this stuff just gets scarier and scarier by the day!!
    I think I had a breach on my computer yesterday??? My anti-virus was turned off!! And that never happens??? Hmmmmm…..big brother snooping around?? LOL…hope they enjoyed 10,000 horse photos and misc horse related documents…hahahaaa

  177. LisaInTX says:

    Oh and the many Anti-obama/Pelosi/Franks photos in various states of their INSANITY!!
    My personal fav is the one with Pelosi holding up a Condom!! But Franks runs a close 2nd of the one of him in a pig body roasting on aa open fire like the chestnutless wonder he is!!!lmao

  178. samhenry says:

    chestnutless – good god lol

  179. arlenearmy says:

    About the demonizing, so far Obama demonized

    1. CEOs of the auto industry

    2. Hospitality Industry in Las Vegas

    3. Firemen

    4. Police Officers

    and I have lost count on who else..

    What’s he’s doing is turning America AGAINST itself. And he’s doing it deliberately.

  180. samhenry says:

    Hello and great summary, Arlene. You are so right in your assessment as usual. He is really throwing European America and its institutions under the bus and embracing communism.

  181. samhenry says:

    The Hospitality industry and his hitting it as a destination for the CEOs showed his complete disregard for job security in that industry. He has just strangled it. This summer there are lots of destinations that are crying out for takers – the Shakespeare Festival in Canada is deep discounting tickets, etc. Really, he has undone our whole way of life in every way from corporations to culture.

  182. samhenry says:

    Arlene I feel duly demonized and demoralized by a man who has no feeling for people as people. I am quite certain that his wife and children suffer from this. He is just a preying mantis in a suit.

  183. VotingFemale says:

    We are in a state of flux… people are afraid of the unknown… trust in Obama is eroding and issues that the ObamaCare bill is a Socialist Takeover with intent to tax to the max and crap all over people is very real now.

    Palin is doing nothing at the moment… and inaction even for a while is creating an unknown.

    I have faith she is working hard to make the changes necessary for her next stage of politics and expect her to relocate to the lower 48.

    And, really, she must do this… Alaska is a frontier… essentially another country…. Obama did the same thing she must do… Hawaii is too far away.

    SamHenry says

    VF will appreciate your comments on some of these polls. Yes, we don’t truly trust polls but beyond that.

  184. samhenry says:

    Arlene – I have got to get the dogs in and go to bed. I will miss talking with you. Leave some good thoughts for blogsville to wake up to tomorrow. Kiss the chickens for me….

  185. VotingFemale says:

    Obama lost some serious luster… and I expect him to continue to lose more as his snake oil salesmanship BS gets seen by the public for what it really is.

    Politics often moves in slow motion but with event spikes such as the Gates-Crowley-Obama incident.

    That seriously jammed the Enchanted One.

  186. samhenry says:

    VF – thank you – so glad you checked in to put the pieces of the political puzzle together so that my brain may truly sleep. The Palin Alaska – Obama Hawaii parallel makes sense.

  187. samhenry says:

    And I feel strongly that the Gates debacle and not the Health Care bill has been his waterloo. I think a lot of independents jumped ship right after his words about it at that press conference.

  188. samhenry says:

    I’m glad we see eye to eye on the import of the Gates moment. Watergate – gates – got to beware of that gatey thing.

    It began with the gum chewing, it continued with the caftan kissing, it generated heart palpitations at the press conference and it died with the beer in the rose garden – any respect for this man.

    PS, OB 1 Knobe nothing – it’s no talkie during a police investigation; tea in the rose garden you schmuck.

  189. VotingFemale says:

    yeah, SamH, it was really bad… he outed himself to a public which believed he was race neutral… and he is not… and now folks like us who see through him will be listened to more carefully.

    Obama needs more fire to his feet over withholding his Long Form Birth Certificate… the reason/s that he hides it is an unknown and that is not a good thing for him. The lower his approval goes… the more heat is brought to bear on his BC business.

    With that I must turn in SamH… enjoy the rest of the evening and sleep well, dear. We went through a lot worse during the FDR years.

  190. samhenry says:

    Yes we did indeed. But you know, at that time we still had respect for our culture – and we supported the artists who represented it. It’s not there now. It’s just shovels like USSR.

    Thanks for the late night talk, VF. Sleep well yourself. And if you get up with a wince about Obama – here’s a little Humperdink to take you back to nod:

  191. LisaInTX says:

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,745404-3,00.html
    “Popular Enlightenment. Called the youngest German ever to hold major Cabinet rank, 35-year-old Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels (Ph. D., Heidelberg) became last week Minister of Propaganda and Popular Enlightenment, a Ministry which he promptly organized in five departments of nation-wide dictatorial power: 1) Propaganda; 2) Radio; 3) Press; 4) Cinema; 5) Theatre.

    “I demonstrated to President von Hindenburg,” boasted young Dr. Goebbels. “how necessary it was to create such a department. . . . We must create a Press joyously conscious of its responsibility to the Fatherland! . . . We must catch the soul vibrations of the German people. . . . Ach, Meine Herren, think of the Press as a great keyboard on which the Government can play.”

    Asked if his brand of soul vibrations might not prove in the end tedious. Dr. Goebbels slapped his thigh. “You know me!” he cried. “I am a sworn enemy of every sort of boredom! . . . Best of all, our propaganda is not going to cost the German people anything. Instead my Ministry cannot fail to show a profit— the radio advertising, you know!”

    Dr. Goebbels, having at his disposal German radio stations of sufficient power to encircle the entire world with Hitler propaganda, said that he would begin by putting on the air a daily short-wave broadcast in English & German aimed at listeners throughout the U. S. and Canada. At first the programs will stress German music and such—proceeding gradually to Enlightenment and Propaganda when a sufficiently large audience has been built up.”

  192. LisaInTX says:

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,753625,00.html?internalid=ACA

    “The Reichstag passed the Enabling Act 441-94. Adolf Hitler became Dictator of Germany for four years to come.

    Socialists did not let the bill go through without one word of protest. Cried Deputy Otto Wels:

    “Take our liberty, take our lives, but leave us our honor! If you really want social reconstruction you would need no such law as this.”

    In full Nazi uniform Chancellor Hitler popped from his seat, his little mustache twitching with excitement.

    “You’re too late!” he roared. “We don’t need you any longer in molding the fate of the nation!”

    Not a few U. S. editors, rapidly scanning the Enabling Act for early editions, headlined their stories END OF THE REPUBLIC. Well they might, for the Enabling Act contained the following provisions :

    1) Emergency decrees no longer need be signed by President von Hindenburg.

    Chancellor Hitler will proclaim them on the authority of his own Cabinet.

    2) Emergency laws need the approval of neither the Reichstag nor the Reichsrat (Federal Council of States). The right of popular referendum on them, expressed in the Weimar Constitution, is specifically set aside.

    3) Treaties with foreign powers no longer need Reichstag or Reichsrat approval.

    4) The Cabinet can decree the annual budget and borrow money on its own authority.

    5) Any law proclaimed by the Chancellor may deviate from the Constitution, becomes effective 24 hours after its publication in the Federal Gazette.

    Since the rights of free speech, public assembly and inviolability of the home have long been suppressed, here was more power in the Chancellery than even Bismarck dreamed of, but careful investigation showed that canny old Paul von Hindenburg still held two aces up his detachable cuffs: The President still has power to dismiss any or all members of the Cabinet including Handsome Adolf himself. He still remains Commander-in-Chief of the Reichswehr, with sole power to proclaim martial law. The Reichswehr is not yet a Nazi organization. If told to turn Adolf Hitler out of office it could theoretically do so.

    Observers agreed that these two cards had been shoved up the President’s sleeve by Vice Chancellor von Papen. At the week’s end lean-jawed Lieut.-Colonel von Papen was fighting hard for yet another check on the Nazis: the vital post of Prussian Premier. He was holding his own at the week’s end. Chancellor Hitler let it be known that the Premiership would not be definitely awarded for some time yet; possibly until after May 1.”

  193. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    Earlier today, we discovered chicken feathers outside the pen. Apparently 3 of them flew out to play & we think a coyote or some dangerous animal killed & drug 3 of them away. I didn’t see any blood, but there was trail of feathers leading to the woods. It wouldnt been so bad or hurtful it happened at night. But in broad day light.

    So we had to finish installing the electric fence. I figured something like this was gonna happen because yesterday we saw 2 dogs scoping out the chickens. I dont know who those dogs belong to, but they were looking really hard. I spotted them and took aim & they took off.

  194. samhenry says:

    Chilling look back Lisa.

    Arlene – I am very sorry about 3 chickens – that’s a lot. I am not surprised at a broad daylight attack. My friend who has the farm and the chickens I visit has coyote coming to grab one in broad daylight. She does not fence them in which I consider cruel. They are fenced in only at night.

    Sounds like the dogs might have done it. They could be feral dogs.

    On my family’s farm (now gone) we had black faced sheep (for 150 years they were on our property). As the area developed, people’s pet dogs started chasing the sheep for sport, then for a kill. Grandpa warned these people they would have to keep their dogs under control or they could be shot. Once the dogs taste blook, that’s it. Well, Grandpa just couldn’t do that so he sold the sheep. It was so sad. They helped feed us during WWII.

    I visited my chicken pals at my friend’s farm the other day. There is an old rooster that was hen pecked and is pretty beat up so he is with a group of less aggressive birds. He loves it when you pet him. Imagine. SamH cuddling with roosters! Any guy in a pinch!

  195. samhenry says:

    Well, as the Mamas and the Papas sing: “Rainy days and Sundays always get me down…”

    I can be stoic about the weather just so long and then the primordial scream breaks out followed by binge eating.

    Have you noticed that we’ve had rain ever since Obama….

    The Jackson 5 – Blame it on the Boogey (man)

  196. samhenry says:

    Carley Simon may have been talking about love in this one but substitute “weather” or “rain” and it amounts to the same thing.” OR maybe it has to do with Health Care Legislation:

  197. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning SamH! and Everyone!

    Lisa, history repeats itself because the hard learned lessons are buried with a generation.

    There will be future Obamas… and future generations… and the beat goes on.

    The struggle never ends… it is the way of humanity.

    Arlene, mmmmm… there be fowl play afoot.
    Coyotes or Dogs… dead chickens are still dead chickens.

    Do you guys have a dog?

  198. VotingFemale says:

    Love that Carly Simon song, SamH…. thank you for sharing it.

  199. VotingFemale says:

    have a touch of the blues today… her song made me cry…

  200. VotingFemale says:

    I hope Sarah is strong enough to reach her potential… she is so loved and respected.

    come back around, Sarah …you can do it.

  201. samhenry says:

    Speaking of coming back around…. I’m back.

  202. samhenry says:

    I don’t want you to cry big CAT. What can I come up with to wash away the tears?

    This has a wonderful beat. Morb was down last night and he put on some Toto and felt better.

  203. rosehips says:

    good morning VF, samhenry and all you fine peeps. I can’t stay for very long. I am still mopping up from my yard sale and then I’m swamped with schoolwork.

    It was the hottest day of the year yesterday. Not sure what the high temp was, but it was over 100 degrees here. It should be hot as well today. I should be on the water. I wish I was.

  204. samhenry says:

    VF – this is THE best rendition of ONE from Chorus Line – Mikhail Baryk??? the ballet master and the dancing is remarkable:

  205. samhenry says:

    Hi Rose – just trying here to brush away the clouds and rain for we East coast types just done in by more of same…

  206. samhenry says:

    OK if the music doesn’t do it – Phyllis Diller?

  207. samhenry says:

    VF the Carley Simon piece was filmed on Martha’s Vineyard. She has stage fright and being near home helped.

    I hope Barack is off to the Vineyard for vacation soon. His mouth needs a rest.

  208. rosehips says:

    did you see this? The gov’t seized hand sanitizers from a laboratory. If you have Clarcon products, they could be dangerous. I wonder if this is terrorist related.

    Lock your doors and hide your sanitizers. The marshall’s may be at your door soon. lol

    Marshals seize Clarcon sanitizers

    WASHINGTON – Officers with the U.S. Marshals Service have seized all skin sanitizers and skin protectants, including ingredients and components, at Clarcon Biological Chemistry Laboratory’s facility in Roy, Utah, the Food and Drug Administration said.

    The FDA also warned the public Saturday not to use any Clarcon products because they contain harmful bacteria.

    Clarcon voluntarily recalled the affected products, marketed under several brand names, in June, following an FDA inspection that revealed high levels of potentially disease-causing bacteria in the products.

    The FDA’s seizure of these products, along with their ingredients, occurred after Clarcon did not agree to promptly destroy them. The FDA said it is protecting the public by preventing the products from entering the marketplace.

  209. samiam60 says:

    Of course this was on Fox news First:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,536168,00.html

  210. rosehips says:

    well, I must get to work. Coffee time is over. I hope you all have a wonderful Sunday.

    Wishing sunshine to you all….

  211. samiam60 says:

    Morning VF, SH, Rose 🙂

  212. samiam60 says:

    Rose how are you. I heard Obama is declaring Martial Law now over this hand sanitizer thing. lol

  213. m2 says:

    Morning SH… here are some comments from Michelle Malkin’s site. Thought they deserve bear repeating:

    ObamaCare –
    This is socialized, government subsidized, single payer, WelfareCare for all. We’ll end up giving the government half of everything we produce, and they will (claim to) take care of us, decide for us, and think for us. Then, of course, bury us.

    **************************

    I don’t think you’ll find too many people who want to have cost/ideology driven medicos verbally abusing, pushing, shoving, wheedling, their older family members into government- demanded euthanasia.

    Remember Dr.Obama’s well thought out prescription for older folks:”You can’t have pacemakers, just take some pain pills instead.”

    **************************

    Socialized medicine doesn’t work. Take a look at the rationing, shortages in Canada and the UK. In fact If we adopt their model, their own health care system will collapse deeper than it already has, because they will no longer have any incentive to pay their doctors wages close enough to American doctor wages to keep the UK/Canadian docs from emigratijng to the US as physicians. The soviet Union had so many women doctors not because of feminism, but because the wages for a Soviet doctor were barely above that of a plumber, so there was no financial incentive for men to go into medicine.
    Do I really have to go blow-by-blow on this subject?

    **************************

    Obamas presidency is a Giant Clunker Meltdown

  214. m2 says:

    morning RH, and sam

  215. samiam60 says:

    Morning M2. 🙂

  216. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning M2! and Samiam!

  217. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Rose!

  218. m2 says:

    blah… Elena’s come down with a cold or something and have to go to grocery… see you later!

  219. m2 says:

    hey VF, sorry have to jump off… bbl!

  220. VotingFemale says:

    Why didn’t the Socialists send in the freeking Marines instead of Federal Marshals?

    They could have dropped in from helicopters with M-16s and grenades…

    rosehips says

    did you see this? The gov’t seized hand sanitizers from a laboratory. If you have Clarcon products, they could be dangerous. I wonder if this is terrorist related.

    Lock your doors and hide your sanitizers. The marshall’s may be at your door soon. lol

    Marshals seize Clarcon sanitizers

    WASHINGTON – Officers with the U.S. Marshals Service have seized all skin sanitizers and skin protectants, including ingredients and components, at Clarcon Biological Chemistry Laboratory’s facility in Roy, Utah, the Food and Drug Administration said.

    The FDA also warned the public Saturday not to use any Clarcon products because they contain harmful bacteria.

    Clarcon voluntarily recalled the affected products, marketed under several brand names, in June, following an FDA inspection that revealed high levels of potentially disease-causing bacteria in the products.

    The FDA’s seizure of these products, along with their ingredients, occurred after Clarcon did not agree to promptly destroy them. The FDA said it is protecting the public by preventing the products from entering the marketplace.

  221. samhenry says:

    Hey, the Administration admits big defic a poblem

    August 2, 2009
    Geithner: Economy turning around, but deficit is a big problem
    Posted: August 2nd, 2009 09:49 AM ET

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — The U.S. economy is no longer on the edge of collapse, but Americans face “tough choices” in the future on reducing the expanded deficit, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday.

    Appearing on the ABC program “This Week,” Geithner said he expected continued economic improvement for the rest of 2009 and a reversal in job losses the following year.

    “What you’re going to see first is growth turn positive,” Geithner said. “Then you’re going to see the pace of job losses slow significantly further,” with job creation possible next year.

    Economic collapse is “not going to happen,” Geithner said.

    He warned, though, that emergency steps including the bailout plan last year and the economic stimulus bill this year are expanding the federal budget deficit to unsustainable levels.

    “We will not get this economy back on track, recovery won’t be strong and sustained” if the deficit isn’t reduced in the future, Geithner said.

    “We can do this — it just requires the will to act,” he said, calling an overhaul of the health-care system one important step by reducing costs for both the government and average Americans.

    Geithner refused to rule out future tax increases, saying the government would take whatever steps were necessary to reduce the deficit once recovery is established.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

  222. samhenry says:

    Rose – RE Hand sanitizers – this was an FDA raid not an FBI Raid. This is how they do it.

  223. samhenry says:

    Palin is keeping a low profile. But wonder if she will surface on the Sunday AM shows.

  224. samiam60 says:

    Hand Sanitizers are now a threat to our national security. Obama declares Marshal Law.. 🙂
    It would be that simple wouldn’t it?

    Hi VF, Sh.

  225. VotingFemale says:

    Earth to Geithner!

    DUHHHH you Bleeping Idiot!

    That is why that 787 Pigzilla Spending Spree was a bad idea in the first place.

    Most of that Money has not been spent… but did these idiots think giving that money back to China where they borrowed it would be a smart idea?

    NOOOOOOO!!!!

    @@#$%#@$&$*^#%$%^@#$^@#^$

  226. VotingFemale says:

    Hiya Samiam! 🙂

  227. samhenry says:

    We are a satellite country to China as Hungary was to Russia. You can’t borrow THAT MUCH and not be in China’s pocket. They hav won without firing a shot.

  228. VotingFemale says:

    I believe she is hard at work in the background with un-named individuals crafting a plan.

    I love how she keeps the opposition in the dark… guessing… thinking… waiting for her to pounce on Obama.

    They are truly more afraid of her than other single person in the GOP.

    B O O

  229. samiam60 says:

    So VF,, What is next. Will the Government be taking over Microsoft next?

  230. VotingFemale says:

    It would require Microsoft needing a Bailout and that is not going to happen… but will Microsoft get in bed with the Socialists? probably if the Socialists get the upper hand…

    Intel is already in bed with SnoBama

  231. VotingFemale says:

    The latest Socialist Troll crap about Sarah is they are saying she and Todd are getting a divorce.

    AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Not happening… what a loaf of crapola!

  232. samhenry says:

    The socialists know Palin is now free to plan and they have encouraged and perhaps helped plan to render Palin a side item in an off election year.

  233. Pingback: As “The Blob” (aka HR3200) Oozes Out Of Committee, Speaker Pelosi Programs Cyborgs With “Health Reform Talking Points.” « Ztower

  234. VotingFemale says:

    Thanks for linking to this blog post thus spawning that pingback to here, ZTower.

    This is the way we help spread the word around the world.

    I will add your pingbacked link to the body of this Blog Post as a way of thanks for thinking of us here, dear.

  235. VotingFemale says:

    I urge readers to check out Ztower and other pingbacks. It is a strengthening of the Conservative Blog Network

  236. karmahd says:

    GIVE ME SANITIZERS OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!

    LOL: just another intrusion of government, the administrating is metastasizing at a profound rate, and unless treated the patient will die an ugly slow death.

    Thought I would keep my comments in the health care ilk…

  237. samiam60 says:

    Morning Karma

  238. karmahd says:

    Hey Sam, how is ya

  239. samhenry says:

    I have just one comment about the cash for clunkers – another not so well thought out plan or was it. I had benefited the foreign cars rather than the American that it hoped to target. Now come on people. All you had to do was get a copy of the Consumer Reports annual car issue and compare gas mileage – the crux of the Cash for Clunkers program. Some US cars wouldn’t even qualify as being better from what they were junking.

  240. karmahd says:

    Hello VF, Rose, M2, SH, and to all the other conservative blogging “fembots and hebots” First chance for me to check in, been a busy week.

  241. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Karma!

    A sanitizer (anti-bacterial) with bacteria….

    must be some kick ass bacteria… probably socialist.

    hahahahahahahaha

  242. samhenry says:

    Hi Karm you Kutie. Yea – a busy week checking out all of the bells and whistles on the new phone – the one that goes anywhere.

  243. VotingFemale says:

    A limit I heard on CFC was if your clunker has a mortgage on it, you dont get the free money from the backs of tax payers handout.

    hahahahahaha

  244. karmahd says:

    VF it is the new feared “Bamabug”!!

    SH, the lift from the cash for clunkers is a further expansion of the “leveling” of the playing field or spreading of the wealth of this administration. We are subsidizing the purchase of autos, that is our tax dollars are going to the shoring up of an industry that could not or would not make the correct decisions in running there business. I think also SH that the cash for clunkers is only available for GM. Chrysler, and Ford, but I could be wrong

  245. VotingFemale says:

    If an airplane hits a tree… Obama planted it 😉

  246. karmahd says:

    Yeah that phone is totally cool, I am highly impressed. Problem is I only have a few free moments during the day to utilize its power, but those moments are mine alllllll mine I say Yut ut Ahhhhhh.

  247. samiam60 says:

    Dealers are now being scrutinized to make sure they crossed every single T and every single Dot in order to get their money. I see a big news story coming as these dealers get screwed on technicalities.

  248. karmahd says:

    For anyone who might illicit a bare minimum of interest…

    http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/

  249. m2 says:

    WHAT THE??????

  250. karmahd says:

    M2 he is working with Obama math, it is also used in the claiming that 7% of the stimulus money spend have turned around our economy, and it is also helpful in taking credit when none is warranted

  251. samhenry says:

    Karm – the problem is that people are trading for foreign cars – I don’t think it is limited to US (or formerly US) auto makers.

  252. samiam60 says:

    No teleprompter is all M2.

  253. karmahd says:

    I am not sure SH, but I have not seen the cash for clunker offer on any foreign cars?? I will google and report back.

  254. m2 says:

    YOU MEAN HE IS STUPID!?

    Yeah.
    Either that or freudian slip.

    He knew he would be President because it was planned.

  255. samhenry says:

    Karm – here’s a Toyota promotion. Nissan has one like it .

    http://www.toyota.com/cashforclunkers/?srchid=K610_p212869091

  256. VotingFemale says:

    Obama’s Socialist Hero, FDR, who served 4 terms in office… is the reason two term limit was put into place… those F’ing Marxists want the job for life…

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    And because of SnoBama, you can BET when it is possible, the GOP will pass a law to force POTUS Candidates to produce every scrap of documentation including their long form birth certificate.

  257. karmahd says:

    OK here is how the car industry works, and I know Samiam has some experience here as well. The OFFICIAL program is for GM and Chrysler only. The others are picking up on the program and using it in there advertising, but they are NOT eligible under the government sponsored program, they are just jumping on board due to the success of the program, and all the free advertising.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/01/earlyshow/main5203908.shtml

  258. samhenry says:

    Karm here’s the Consumer Reports mileage listing and look where the US cars fall. The gas mileage is first figure; cost the last.

    http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/06/cash-for-clunkers-recommended-cars-that-qualify-for-a-voucher.html

    Make & model EPA combined mpg MSRP
    Acura TSX 25 $29,675
    Chevrolet HHR 24 24,730
    Chevrolet Malibu (4-cyl.) 26 23,585
    Ford Escape (4-cyl.) 21 25,470
    Ford Escape Hybrid 28 25,470
    Ford Focus 27 18,940
    Ford Fusion (4-cyl., 2010) 25 22,145
    Ford Fusion Hybrid (2010) 39 30,010
    Honda Accord (4-cyl.) 24 22,795
    Honda Civic 29 19,610
    Honda CR-V 22 24,675
    Honda Fit 31 16,020
    Honda Odyssey 18 32,410
    Hyundai Elantra 28 18,695
    Hyundai Santa Fe 19 30,745
    Hyundai Sonata (4-cyl.) 25 20,735
    Hyundai Tucson (V6) 20 22,154
    Kia Optima (4-cyl.) 25 22,795
    Kia Sportage (V6) 20 23,565
    Mazda3 (2.0L, 2010) 27 19,070
    Mazda3 (2.5L, 2010) 25 20,700
    Mazda5 23 22,615
    Mini Cooper (base, MT) 32 21,700
    Mitsubishi Outlander (4-cyl.) 22 22820
    Nissan Altima 2.5S 26 22,705
    Nissan Murano 20 33,330
    Nissan Rogue 23 25,850
    Nissan Sentra 28 18,855
    Nissan Versa hatchback 29 16,675
    Pontiac Vibe 1.8L 28 19,085
    Scion tC 23 17,365
    Scion xB 24 18,360
    Scion xD 28 16,620
    Subaru Forester 22 22,040
    Subaru Impreza 22 19,106
    Suzuki SX4 (FWD) 26 17,378
    Toyota Camry (4-cyl.) 25 21,080
    Toyota Camry Hybrid 34 29,720
    Toyota Corolla 30 18,404
    Toyota Highlander 19 38,575
    Toyota Highlander Hybrid 26 43,770
    Toyota Matrix S (2.4L) 24 21,180
    Toyota Prius 46 24,803
    Toyota RAV4 (4-cyl.) 24 25,405
    Toyota Sienna 19 36,989
    Volkswagen Jetta (2.5L) 24 23,580
    Volkswagen Rabbit 24 19,725
    Volvo C30 23 25,795

  259. VotingFemale says:

    The Anti-Sarah Troll Hall of Crap! hahaha

  260. samhenry says:

    Thanks Karm for getting to the bottom of this. Obama Admin should have known the foreign car makers would not take this lying down. I have an 8 year old Passat with a small turbo engine that gets about 28 mpg – that is out front of us cars for EIGHT years. Were the US auto makers NUTS?

  261. karmahd says:

    YEP SH those cars that were designed in other countries or were designed with the world market in mind, did design there cars with higher gas mileage. The Americans on the other hand have been focusing all there efforts over the last decade and an half on high profit vehicles IE; trucks and SUV’s. That was a critical misstep and a live in the now moment for GM and Chrysler, you will note that Ford 3 years ago made the move to efficiency, and they are showing a profit, of which has pissed off Obama, he wanted them in his back pocket!!

  262. samhenry says:

    LOL VF – – Such an attractive bunch of dullards.

  263. karmahd says:

    OK my conservative blogger network producers, it is Sunday, I have worked the last 6 days 10 hours a day, time for the Karma, to have some good Karma, off to experience the world, be back later, good to talk to all of you, and I miss you guys during the week!! I will get better with the tiny digital keyboard on my phone and put my thumbs to work!!!

  264. samhenry says:

    By Philip Rucker
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Sunday, August 2, 2009

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi returned home to San Francisco this weekend carrying a red, white and blue pocket card that will help guide her through the August recess. The card lists talking points she hopes will convince everyday Americans of the benefits they could receive under the health-care reform plan she hatched with other House Democrats last week.

    Pelosi distributed the cards to all 256 of her caucus members, arming the unruly Democratic majority for battle in their disparate districts across the country. After laboring for weeks in Washington to reach a compromise between liberal and conservative factions of her caucus, Pelosi is taking the fight outside the Beltway, where polls show that her popularity is faltering. She plans to stump for health-care reform in San Francisco, Denver and other cities.

    At stake is legislation that could define her legacy as speaker and shape President Obama’s political future. Pelosi called health-care reform with a public insurance option “the issue of an official lifetime.”

    “August will be a month of inoculation against the negative message of the insurance industry,” Pelosi said in an interview, resting in a yellow armchair in her stately office, which has sweeping views of the Mall. “It will be a month of education in terms of what is in our bill. It will be a month of communication — listening, listening, listening to what constituents have to say.”

  265. karmahd says:

    Damn VF I thought half those people in the video were DEAD??

  266. VotingFemale says:

    US auto makers sell cars people show demand for… if gasoline cost 5 cents a gallon few people would be interesting in a wimpy little car.

  267. samhenry says:

    Kaarm – they are dead and keep on ticking to vote.

  268. samhenry says:

    US auto makers sell cars people show demand for… if gasoline cost 5 cents a gallon few people would be interesting in a wimpy little car.

    BUT intelligent people – university types, drove Volvos in the 70s before moms in suburbia caught on.

  269. samhenry says:

    Just got this from ORGANIZING for AMERICA. They are calling this The LISTENING TOUR.

    Jean —

    My name is Melissa DeRosa, and I’m the New York State Director for Organizing for America.

    I’m excited to announce that we’re on the ground in New York — I’m thrilled to be part of this movement standing with President Obama to make the change we fought for in 2008 a reality in 2009 and beyond.

    Right now, that means working to fix our deeply broken health care system that has denied many Americans the care they need for far too long. Organizing for America is fighting to make sure Congress passes real health insurance reform that gives every American access to the quality, affordable health care they deserve.

    But to be successful, we need to hear from you — your effort and commitment are the backbone of this movement and this organization. That’s why we’re hosting Listening Tour stops across the state.

    Will you make your voice heard and join us on the Listening Tour?

    At Listening Tour stops, you’ll get a chance to learn about OFA’s goals and accomplishments, hear about some lessons learned during the election, and offer your thoughts on how we can organize New York going forward. Your ideas will be used to write a New York-specific plan for Organizing for America.

    The campaign brought an unprecedented number of new voices into the process — we need to make sure those voices remain at the center of the debate as the President and Congress work to fix our health care crisis, reinvest in our schools, and jumpstart a new green economy.

    But these events are not just for folks who were involved in the campaign — we hope that every New York resident will get involved.

    We can’t stop growing our movement now. We’ve never had a better opportunity to shape our future — and just like during the election, we’ll do it from the bottom up.

    Sign up now to attend a Listening Tour stop:

    http://ny.barackobama.com/ListeningTourNY

    I look forward to seeing you,

    Melissa

    Melissa DeRosa
    New York State Director
    Organizing for America

    P.S. — If you can’t make it to a Listening Tour stop, you can still get involved with Organizing for America in New York. Let us know how you’d like to see New York organized:

    http://ny.barackobama.com/LTSurvey

  270. samhenry says:

    “I am on the ground in NY” – Sami – this is language you abhor from that camp.

  271. VotingFemale says:

    hahahaha it is true…

    The SnobBot’s cars make “statements”

    well so does a Ford Pickup Truck!

    lol

    samhenry // August 2, 2009 at 11:01 am (edit)

    US auto makers sell cars people show demand for… if gasoline cost 5 cents a gallon few people would be interesting in a wimpy little car.

    BUT intelligent people – university types, drove Volvos in the 70s before moms in suburbia caught on.

  272. samhenry says:

    You’re right, VF. In other parts of the country the huge Ford pick ups are status. My brother has one. A snow plow damaged his bumper and he got a new bumper. I looked at him in dismay and said: “the local farmers will consider you a tender foot and you will be laughed out of Iowa. This is a work horse. You need to let the world know it has been working.”

  273. samhenry says:

    Time to make a 1,000 calorie lunch. I have my standards. bbl

    Dog eagerly overboard.

  274. samiam60 says:

    Hey now wait a minuet. I drove a Chevy Cavalier that was supposed to get 32mpg and I got 37 mpg.
    A lot depends on the kind of driving you do and how you drive. Lead foots get about 15 mpg.

  275. samiam60 says:

    Liberals usually get about 45 mpg as they drive around with their nose’s in the air thus making them more areo dynamic.

  276. karmahd says:

    SH as to your letter from the “movement”, this is what I am talking about when I say they are utilizing the internet to there advantage, they have a mailing list of either contributors or people at one time interested in the Obama Doctrine of domination of the people by aquiring the methods of production!! This is a slimy group of lying sheeple.

    I got three letters over the last 10 days since I am a member of one of Obamas webpages, and do you know he does not sign his correspondence as the President of the US, I believe he does not sign to give one the impression he is just a regular guy, Bull Puckey!!!

  277. karmahd says:

    Samiam, the liberals cars run on granola, which they grow on there granola trees. Thus the high mileage

  278. samiam60 says:

    Liberals usually drive Subaru’s and Volvo’s.

  279. samiam60 says:

    Actually Karma the Liberals usually get around 50 MPG as they drive around most of the time with their heads up their a$$e$.

  280. samiam60 says:

    Thus you get the Democrats Symbol.

  281. karmahd says:

    Hey how about we give every liberal a donkey when they trade in there 75 Volvo 240’s

  282. VotingFemale says:

    You should see the jazzed up Drug Store Cowboy Pickup Trucks in Texas… hahahahahahahaha

    which never saw a load of anything in the back 😉

    samhenry // August 2, 2009 at 11:10 am (edit)

    You’re right, VF. In other parts of the country the huge Ford pick ups are status. My brother has one. A snow plow damaged his bumper and he got a new bumper. I looked at him in dismay and said: “the local farmers will consider you a tender foot and you will be laughed out of Iowa. This is a work horse. You need to let the world know it has been working.”

  283. VotingFemale says:

    Ya’ll will get a kick outa this Mazda Protege ass end…

  284. samhenry says:

    lol Oregon Bumper stickers! I once heard:

    If you can see Mt. Hood, you know it is not raining.

    The earth worm is the state symbol.

    And it would not be difficult to keep Oregon “wierd.”

  285. samhenry says:

    Having consumed at least 1,000 calories, it’s time for some activity – bed again! Later gator

  286. samhenry says:

    Sami – loved the aerodynamics of the cars for elites.

  287. Pingback: How Much Will It Cost… Really? Cool Visual Demos with Pennies Showing True Costs of Obama’s Stimulus Bill, Budget, & ObamaCare (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone

  288. samhenry says:

    Here are my favorites:

  289. samhenry says:

    Ya see, guys, I had two brothers. We would sit in the back seat and play car identification games. And detail? I did detail with the best of them. I took science in grade school and knew how an internal combustion engine worked. Withal, I was a good looking broad!

  290. samhenry says:

    VF those tricked out cars are wundebar but my bike on the 4th of July with crepe paper in the spokes of the wheels – outstanding.

  291. samiam60 says:

    Subject: The Marine and the Iraqi terrorist

    The Marine and the Iraqi terrorist

    A U.S. Marine squad was marching north of Fallujah when they came upon an Iraqi terrorist, badly injured and unconscious. On the opposite side of the road was an American Marine in a similar but less serious state. The Marine was conscious and alert and as first aid was given to both men, the squad leader asked the injured Marine what had happened.

    The Marine reported, “I was heavily armed and moving north along the highway here, and coming south was a heavily armed insurgent. We saw each other and both took cover in the ditches along the road. I yelled to him that Saddam Hussein was a miserable, lowlife scum bag who got what he deserved, and he yelled back that Ted Kennedy is a fat, good-for-nothing, left wing liberal drunk who doesn’t know how to drive. So I said that Osama Bin Laden dresses and acts like a frigid, mean-spirited lesbian!

    He retaliated by yelling, “Oh yeah? Well, so does Nancy Pelosi!”

    “And, there we were, in the middle of the road, shaking hands, when a truck hit us.”

  292. karmahd says:

    Now this is a truck!!

  293. karmahd says:

    OMG I HAVE TO GET ONE OF THESE!!!!!

  294. samiam60 says:

    President Obama seems it is time to stop the rumors once and for all.
    Some believe you are a natural born American and some believe you
    have something to hide.

    Perhaps you could unseal your Original Birth Certificate and clear the
    air once and for all. That would stop all the speculation and settle this
    debate once and for all.

    Some say you spent one million dollars in legal fee’s to protect your
    privacy. Others say you have something to hide.

    Should it be proven that you are not a natural born American it would
    go down as the biggest scam in American History. It would also end
    your Presidency.

    If you are in fact a Natural Born American than by all means be
    as “Transparent” as you promised us you would be and provide
    the required proof.

    This issue will only go away when you do the right thing once and
    for all.

  295. boudicabpi says:

    NANCY PELOSI
    THE MOST
    UNTRUSTED US POLITICIAN
    SERVING IN OFFICE.
    I think Obama may be more untrustworthy or at least equal.

    As far as the cash for clunkers, how many people that have older clunkers would like to exchange theirs for one that will be destroyed. Surprised no one has set up a clunker exchange yet, or maybe they have and I have not heard about it??

    Bob A.

  296. samhenry says:

    I am royally pissed – still the only way to be pissed. I just opened a letter from AARP to find they are initiating a campaign “AARP’s Petition Across America.”
    “We are working with President Obama and Congress to find solutions to strengthen retirement security in this nation. We are working to protect and strengthen Social Security…ensure all Americans have access to quality health care at lower costs…ensure that pensions and returement savings programs remain secure…allow seniors to keep a roof over their heads…and create more employment opportunities for those seniors who must continue working.

    But of course they need us to achieve the above so they provide petitions directed to our congressional representatives and to the President.

    I will be resigning from AARP. It is one thing to petition them; another to so blatantly work with them. This is buying into a specific government program in a highly organized way.

    We are asked to sign the petitions AND to make a contribution to AARP. The contribution is perhaps to fund continued lobbying efforts.

  297. LisaInTX says:

    SamH
    I think most of the insurance companies are backing Obama….I mean they can’t loose now……I bet many of those companies are heavy share holders of GE!!!

  298. LisaInTX says:

    LMAO…I was told that Obam is more to my “right”, than he is to this guys (A native born Texan that most would consider Red-neck) ‘left”…..
    HOLY CRAPOLA!!!
    If that is the real case in America!!!

  299. LisaInTX says:

    AARP meeting with Obama: Note the vid is an hour long—so maybe save to watch when you have time.

  300. LisaInTX says:

    More On Government Tracking: Cash for Clunkers.
    To:

    Here is the Glenn Beck video clip I told you about earlier regarding the Cars.gov website.

    Actual text from the CARS.gov website: (by the way DON’T go there!)

    “This application provides access to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the U.S. Government. Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, Dot, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.”

    Kimberly Guilfoyle (Fox News Anchor) stated, “They [feds] are jumping right inside you, seizing all of your personal and private information, and it is absolutely legal, Glenn…Guess what? They can continue to track you, basically forever, once they’ve tapped into your system, the government off-course has like Mal-Ware systems and tracking cookies and they can tap in anytime they want…It is so broad that they can just about do anything with it saying that its in the government’s interest because they are trying to protect against fraud and that kind of thing.”

    Jonah Goldberg added,” Say you use Skype or some other internet phone system, right? If you’re on the phone while logged in on this thing, according to this lawyer I talked to before….the government can legally listen to your phone call.”

    Glenn said they would do more on this on Monday’s program.

  301. samhenry says:

    Lisa – it just makes me sick. Americans are being rounded up and herded by various organizations into a position of being fellow lobbyists.

    AARP is among the largest lobbies in DC.

    I wish the Repubs and Conservative Dems would hold out until reform of insurance industry and tort law reform have been dealt with.

  302. samhenry says:

    They are creating an entire new system WITHOUT fixing the problems of the old one and carrying over the problems into the new paradigm. That doesn’t make sense. Why hasn’t anyone called them on this?

  303. samhenry says:

    This one’s for you Barack

  304. LisaInTX says:

    Another disagreement was….. He didn’t care/mind if we had private insurance, so why shouldn’t he have free healthcare?
    I’m confused how he could compare the two??
    I told him that we PAY out of our own pocket for our healthcare and do not expect, nor do we think it right, that other Americans pay for our healthcare. It is a privilege, not a right under our Constitution.
    Saying thus, I then asked him why I should pay for his healthcare, when he could , like us, purchase his own insurance plan? Affordability is one thing, but this guy claims to have money to get insurance, but chooses NOT too!
    I really don’t understand these people….he and I have allot in common, but will never agree on the entitlement bullshit!
    I don’t want other American’s to pay for me…..nor do I want to pay for other American’s….the programs that we have, need to be shredded/reformed and made cost effective—those in charge to be held accountable if they are not done so or otherwise done away with all together ….IMO.

  305. m2 says:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/shocking-new-birth-certificate-proof-obama-born-in-kenya.html
    If authenticated, document could create constitutional crisis, reaction could be martial law

    “I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds,” Taitz told WND. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/29/2009-07-29_hillary_camp_is_election_ready.html

  306. m2 says:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/shocking-new-birth-certificate-proof-obama-born-in-kenya.html
    If authenticated, document could create constitutional crisis, reaction could be martial law

    “I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds,” Taitz told WND. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/29/2009-07-29_hillary_camp_is_election_ready.html

  307. m2 says:

    This story published today.

  308. m2 says:

    “Before, they said, ‘You don’t have anything backing your claims,'” Taitz explained. “Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on the Internet more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has signatures.”

  309. m2 says:

    could be fake though … shrugs.

  310. samhenry says:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

    WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
    Is this really smoking gun of Obama’s Kenyan birth?
    Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa
    Posted: August 02, 2009
    11:55 am Eastern

    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.

    This document purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth for Barack Obama, allegedly born in Mombasa, Kenya, in 1961

    The document lists Obama’s parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

    Document enlarged to show detail alleges Barack Obama was born at Coast General Hospital in Mombasa on Aug. 4, 1961

    No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.

    WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

    An enlarged view of the bottom of the document

    Last week, a counterfeit document purporting to be Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate made the rounds of the Internet, but was quickly determined to be fraudulent. The new document released by Taitz bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax.

    Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.”

    Taitz’s motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama’s birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    “I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds,” Taitz told WND. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].

    “I’m forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond,” she said.

    “Before, they said, ‘You don’t have anything backing your claims,'” Taitz explained. “Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on the Internet more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has signatures.”

    Join the petition campaign to demand President Obama resolve the question by revealing his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!

    Taitz’s most celebrated case involved a military officer, Maj. Stefan Cook, whose order to deploy to Afghanistan was revoked when he challenged Obama’s eligibility to hold office. That case has now been refiled in federal court in Florida, raising the specter of a class-action claim among members of the military that their orders aren’t valid because of questions surrounding Obama’s constitutional eligibility.

    Taitz told WND she plans to file additional paperwork with the Florida court tomorrow, adding the alleged Kenyan birth certificate to Maj. Cook’s case.

    (Story continues below)

  311. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    Wow… Im headed over to WND to see if they got a copy of what Taitz filed in court.

  312. arlenearmy says:

    SH & Everybody:
    I got a gut feeling that the Kenyan Birth certificate show now on WND will have legs. That certificate has a sources such as book & page number. Also a SIGNATURE.

    This is BREAKING NEWS !!!

  313. samhenry says:

    ROSE

    When you get here – this is something we both can agree on – terrible. Barack should have gone here, too.

    U.S. Electronic Waste Gets Sent to Africa
    Toxic Trash Sickens Young Scavengers in Ghana
    By RON CLAIBORNE
    ACCRA, Ghana, Aug. 2, 2009

    It’s the wet season now in Ghana, and the heavy, daily rains have turned the vast field behind the Agbogbloshie market into a muddy swamp.
    PHOTO: Electronic Junk from America finds its way to Africa.
    Electronic junk from America finds its way to Africa. Debris in the Agbogbloshie dumpsite in Ghana… Expand
    Electronic junk from America finds its way to Africa. Debris in the Agbogbloshie dumpsite in Ghana has been identified as computer pieces with decals from the Washington Metro Transit Authority, U.S. Army, State of Connecticut Mental Heath Facility, and other U.S. city, state and federal agencies. Even computers with the label of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency were found at the dump. Collapse
    (ABC News)

    With the mud so thick it can pull the shoes from your feet — if you’re lucky enough to have shoes — the children come here to rummage and rake the mountains of electronic debris that spills across the landscape.

    They are scavenging for copper wiring that they can sell. On a very good day, they can extract about $2 of copper from the broken computers, telephone answering machines and televisions that have been discarded.

    Much of the e-waste in the Agbogbloshie dump comes from foreign countries, including the United States. Recyclers that buy it from government agencies ship it overseas in cargo containers mixed in with second-hand electronics. The buyer in the foreign country keeps what is salable and carts of what isn’t to e-waste sites such as Agbogbloshie.

    Children at Risk

    Some of the children are aware that breaking open junked electronics exposes them to potentially harmful chemicals, such as lead, mercury and cadmium. Many don’t know. No one is deterred.
    Related
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    WATCH: Tracing African Roots

    Yusef Nashedu, 12, has been mining the field for copper for the past three years. He goes to school weekdays and comes here after school. On weekends, he spends all day in the dumpsite.

    “Sometimes, I feel sick,” Yusef said. “In my body, I can’t feel free.”

    Dressed in short pants, a dirty polo shirt and plastic yellow flip-flops, Yusef shuffles through the jagged debris, stooped over, looking for copper wires.

    Some of the children built fires on which they toss large hunks of discarded electronics. The fire melts the plastic, revealing the copper wires inside. The fire also releases toxic fumes.

    “We are looking at immense health implications,” said Mike Anane, a local environmental activist who frequently visits the Agbogbloshie field to warn the children and adults of the dangers of what they are doing.

    “For the kids, we’re talking about lowering the IQ as a result of the lead, of the mercury, even the cadmium. It affects the nervous system. These are kids. Their bodies are very vulnerable,” Anane said.

    It is difficult to trace where the e-waste comes from. Most of it has been shattered or broken into pieces that bear no identifying markings. But among the scattered junk are a few items with labels.

    Anane held up computer pieces with decals for the Washington Metro Transit Authority, U.S. Army, State of Connecticut Mental Heath Facility, and other U.S. city, state and federal agencies. According to environmental group Greenpeace, even computers with the label of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency were found at the dump.

  314. arlenearmy says:

    I wonder if this certificate could be Obama’s Waterloo?

  315. samhenry says:

    Hi Arlene – M2

    The sad part is that this new birth certificate like the Hawaiian one is a stand in for the original.

  316. samhenry says:

    Arlene – I think his Waterloo was the Gates thing. He lost a lot of Independents with coming out in support of his friend before all the facts were in. He showed he really doesn’t represent all Americans.

  317. samhenry says:

    At last – something we have the world needs:

    Spruce Pine, a modest, charmingly low-key town in the Blue Ridge mountains of North Carolina, is at the heart of a global billion-dollar industry.

    Although this Mitchell County community calls itself the Mineral City, with just 2,000 residents one could dispute the city status. But when it comes to minerals, Spruce Pine has definitely undersold itself.

    The jewellery shops, highlighting local emeralds, sapphires and amethysts, hint at the riches. The mountains, however, contain something far more precious than gemstones: they are a source of high-purity quartz.

    This ultra-pure mineral is essential for building most of the world’s silicon chips – without which you wouldn’t be reading this article.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8178580.stm

  318. samhenry says:

    Frankie Avalon?

    A well-preserved 4,500-year-old skeleton of a man was found on a beach south of Rome, Italian police told Reuters.

    The man is believed to be a warrior killed by an arrow in the chest, Reuters reported.

    Six small vases were also found buried near the man.

    “We thought it was that of a Roman solider, but then the experts identified it as dating back to the third millennium B.C.,” said Raffaele Mancino, an official who oversees Italy’s cultural heritage.

    The skeleton was discovered during a routine air patrol of areas of archaeological interest.

  319. arlenearmy says:

    SH
    The major difference I see between the 2 certificates is that the African 1 has
    1. signature
    2. book & page number
    3. registrars name
    4. raised seal
    5. certificate number on the top

    There’s too much references on that certificate, that the Hawaiian one severely lacks.

  320. samhenry says:

    You’re right, Arlene. But with all of that, will they still want to see the original?

  321. samhenry says:

    I just thought – the book and page number must lead to the original? Or is it the book and page number of this. Ah well, should be easier to find. I hope this is the thing.

    If this is real and he is not a citizen then this cover up has been going on for a long time. And it involves more than just Barack.

  322. samhenry says:

    Arlene – you need to be a forensic expert! You can discover what happened from the evidence from chicken feathers to birth certificates!

  323. samhenry says:

    Lisa – Hi – and Arlene

    I’m headed back to bed – my favorite destination.

    A – I hope those chicks are safe now. You’ve done all you can do. When my parents lived a short time in Arizona, we used to hear baby rabbits squealing as hawks ate them on top of our chimney. I kept saying to myself “hawk has to live, hawk has to live…”

  324. m2 says:

    hey guys, went to watch True Blood at my friends house.

    check this video out:

    notice how the Dems and Liberals say Single-Payer in place of Universal (yet he says “Universal” in 07 to SEIU) … but they know “universal” doesn’t work on the broad scale, so they changed it to single-payer to confuse people… yet actually now they deny single-payer and hide behind lies.

  325. m2 says:

    As to the public option leading to single payer … IT DOESN’T MATTER!!! The federal government does not have the power to create a health insurance company in order to “provide compeition”. Period. It doesn’t matter what it might, or might not, lead to – the fact is that what the liberals are proposing is just, plain un-Constitutional.

    Of course, trying to enforce our Constitution is a hard sell, these days. No one seems to want to be bothered by it.

  326. m2 says:

    I agree with this!!

    If the GOP had any kind of leadership, there’d be 30-40 seconds of that clip being shown to national prime-time audiences daily.

  327. m2 says:

    Global Warming
    Climate Change

    National Health Care
    Health Care Reform
    Health Insurance Reform

    Stimulus for Immediate Recovery
    Stimulus for Year End Recovery
    Stimulus for Recovery Sometime in 2010

    Cannot Win Bush’s War
    Surge Won’t Work
    Troops Should Be in Afghanistan

  328. m2 says:

    well the above shows the change of Democrat propagandizing…

  329. m2 says:

    OH here’s a new one. 🙂

    Obama lied.
    America died.

  330. LisaInTX says:

    M2
    So which “truth” do the Dems claim is the correct one? LMAO……this man is a LIAR LIAR pants are an INFERNO!!! More like a super volcano of lies!!!

  331. LisaInTX says:

    Obama Lied
    and America got PISSED OFF!!
    The libs lied
    and America got PISSED OFF MORE!
    They called us racist
    and we all know it is they who are the real racists!

  332. m2 says:

    awww here’s another lie broken. IN fact the only reason he was really signed on as POTUS by mainstream America, lol… it just becomes a never ending nightmare, Lisa, it really does:

    2 Obama administration officials can’t guarantee middle-class Americans won’t see tax hike

    By Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer
    On Sunday August 2, 2009, 9:24 pm EDT
    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s treasury secretary said Sunday he cannot rule out higher taxes to help tame an exploding budget deficit, and his chief economic adviser would not dismiss raising them on middle-class Americans as part of a health care overhaul.

    As the White House sought to balance campaign rhetoric with governing, officials appeared willing to extend unemployment benefits. With former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan saying he is “pretty sure we’ve already seen the bottom” of the recession, Obama aides sought to defend the economic stimulus and calm a jittery public.

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Larry Summers both sidestepped questions on Obama’s intentions about taxes. Geithner said the White House was not ready to rule out a tax hike to lower the federal deficit; Summers said Obama’s proposed health care overhaul needs funding from somewhere.

    “There is a lot that can happen over time,” Summers said, adding that the administration believes “it is never a good idea to absolutely rule things out, no matter what.”

    During his presidential campaign, Obama repeatedly vowed “you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.” But the simple reality remains that his ambitious overhaul of how Americans receive health care — promised without increasing the federal deficit — must be paid for.

    “If we want an economy that’s going to grow in the future, people have to understand we have to bring those deficits down. And it’s going to be difficult, hard for us to do. And the path to that is through health care reform,” Geithner said. “We’re not at the point yet where we’re going to make a judgment about what it’s going to take.”

    Selling that proposal, however, has proved tricky.

    On Friday, the government released a report that suggested the worst recession in the United States since World War II appears on the verge of ending. The economy dipped only slightly in the second quarter of this year — falling at a 1 percent annual pace, better than expected.

    The president cautioned against instant turnaround, though.

    “Well, as I’ve said, I think we maybe are beginning to see the end of the recession, but it’s still going to be some time before we are seeing companies hiring again. That’s usually the last thing that happens,” Obama said in an interview with Univision that aired on Sunday.

    “So I think we are still going to have a tough remainder of the year — probably until next year — but, you know, at least what we are seeing — we’ve pulled back from the possibility of a depression. That’s not the danger.”

    Many analysts think the economy is starting to grow again in the current quarter, setting up a long-awaited recovery.

    “Most private forecasters — and let’s use their judgment — suggest you’re going to see unemployment start to come down maybe beginning in the second half of next year,” Geithner said, adding those same economists predict positive growth during the second half of this year.

    At the same time, Geithner and other administration officials are contemplating how to ask Congress to extend — again — unemployment benefits for the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in recent months. The proposal drew measured support from Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., as long as the benefits are drawn from the already approved economic stimulus package.

    “We need to take care of those who are unemployed, but we also need to make sure they get jobs,” he said.

    Those jobs, though, are still elusive. Greenspan said the economy is slowly coming back.

    “Collapse, I think, is now off the table. We were teetering for a while,” he said.

    Greenspan said he doesn’t think the Federal Reserve should be considering raising interest rates to ward off inflation, although he added that the Fed will have to rein in credit and raise rates at some point.

    Obama’s opponent for the presidency, Sen. John McCain, questioned whether the administration’s actions will prove beneficial for the country.

    “I think it’s pretty clear, if you pump trillions of dollars into the economy, you will see some recovery,” the Arizona Republican said while giving Obama credit for the improvement. “But the long-term consequences, I think, are going to be, unfortunately, devastating unless we do something about it.”

    Geithner and Greenspan appeared on ABC’s “This Week.” Summers appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” and CBS’s “Face the Nation.” DeMint was interviewed on “Fox News Sunday.” McCain spoke with CNN’s “State of the Union.”

  333. m2 says:

    Lisa, my friend was telling me at work he works with a bunch of Union guys who are all Democrat. My friend is a conservative who does not support the polices of Obama. My friends says the Dem Union guys go on with racial slurs ALL DAY LONG. But they love Obama. That doesn’t stop them from making the most classless racial judgements, yes, as Democrats. Then when my friend comments on an Obama “POLICY” they get on his case and go “You’re just against him b/c he’s black!”

    and my friend says, “I don’t get it. Out of all the guys there, I’m the only one that is NOT A RASCIST, and likes all people, and they are the ones constantly making racist remarks… but they say that about me b/c I don’t want Government run healthcare?”

    I just shook my head.

    That’s how they are… those Dems.

  334. LisaInTX says:

    M2
    Funny that WE KNEW this was coming, yet those that voted for him and continue to support him, did not! Granted the biased media did the most damage by NOT revealing his past speeches and appearances, but shit fire!!! The man wanted to bring back the FDR days and all one had to do was some research to find the truth!! That is how I found out about him and his plans to destroy America—of course that little memory I had from my dad referring to FDR as a Commie helped push me in the right direction…lol

  335. LisaInTX says:

    He needs to tell those idiots, that he doesn’t like Obama because THEY are racists pigs. lol

    Or say Prove it or shut the hell up!
    Most of the OLD Dem party were RACIST…..they became that way after the civil war because of the north reconstruction/carpet baggers coming down like the plague stealing everything they could get their hands on—-Resentment of blacks came after the war when they began competing for jobs with the poor whites. The north didn’t care about the troubles down south—
    Resentment is not a good thing to have towards another race….no matter the color…..it breeds evil ideals and horrible things happen because of it.
    Affirmative Action is another such policy that if it is not done away with in the name of equality for all, I fear will cause more and more problems in our future.

  336. m2 says:

    Girl you know the media’s head honchos are all heavily invested in the Democrat-Socialist policies. The media wouldn’t uncover a pebble if they were ‘forced by coercion’ to.

    And most Americans know it.

    It’s like VF said, this is circular. Everywhere on Earth generations have to beat back Liberalism which leads to inevitable servitude through LIES. It is the never-ending battle.

    We see the same thing, they always call themselves “Progressives” “for Change”… they are the supreme Propagandists. They are the True Fascists.

    After all, ppl think Fascism is about race? Yes, Fascism is about using “social justice” to gain totalitarian control. It is about extending the central government into a “State” and doling out liberty…

    Obama’s fascism is the same as every other througout history. He uses RACE and CLASS to gain control and destroy the Republic from the inside out.

  337. LisaInTX says:

    I’ll add that the republicans have lied too. Bush could have stopped allot to things, like our open borders, ended the affirmative action BS—-but he choose not too.
    Guess now it will be up to some racist wise Latina bitch to tell us Americans how to be real racists in America.

  338. m2 says:

    Hoooo weee that woman is so racist she brings down the honor of the position… though I guess that’s not much diff. than Obama. He tries to hide his bias.

    But nothing will ever change the fact that his life has been rife with Radicals, Racists, and his only real-word work experiences was a Community Agitator rousing up the crowds with hate and division.

  339. LisaInTX says:

    M2
    That ‘social justice” is what got millions of Jews murdered in the holocaust.
    They were deemed the enemy of the German people thru propaganda just as conservatives, RICH White People, Capitalism are now being demonized by the American fascist regime aka dem party.

  340. m2 says:

    I wonder if all those Obama voters who thought he’d give them a tax cut, knew they voted for what is basically the “head honcho” of ACORN.

    now that Barack’s … fightthesmears site is offline. Do they feel cheated?

    So many lies…

    so many.

  341. m2 says:

    Oh I know Lisa… that’s what the general liberal population fails to see. Some of them really need to actually articulate history. I see some non-critical thinkers on ireport.. that just blow my mind. The level of hate. They don’t even realize they are the new “Brown Shirts”

  342. m2 says:

    what I should start saying back to those guys is, “Yes. I don’t support his freed0m and America-killing agenda because he is WHITE.”

    He’s as white as he is black.

    Their logic is so devoid of intellect and reasoning it’s beyond me to even contemplate.

  343. Foxwood says:

    Gawd I hurt.

    Didn’t expect to have a move out. Had to get a rent house ready for a new renter. Was an all weekend event.

    I got a secret for low income Capitalists coming as soon as I heal up. I’ll do some VFBlog catching up as I rest up, then get back to you… Probably tomorrow.

    I’m wacked tonight.

  344. LisaInTX says:

    M2
    That was a great article. Thanks…I have that bookmarked! :-}

  345. m2 says:

    Yes that one is a winner!!!

    Hey Foxwood!
    and actually it’s about time for bed for me,
    signing off for today-

    good night, Lisa and Fox!

  346. LisaInTX says:

    I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahhaa……and it is so
    DAMNED true!!! That should shut their vile mouths up!!! hahahaaa

    M2 says “what I should start saying back to those guys is, “Yes. I don’t support his freed0m and America-killing agenda because he is WHITE.”

    He’s as white as he is black.

  347. LisaInTX says:

    Hi foxwood
    OUCHY……sorry you had a tuff day….get some rest and fill us in on the details when you get time. :-}

  348. LisaInTX says:

    Might M2….ttyl….
    Guess I need to head out myself….night all that pop in after we hit the hay…:-}

  349. karmahd says:

    Internet is dead b back when fixed

  350. Foxwood says:

    I’m dead! Wake me up when I’m alive again.

  351. samhenry says:

    A quick drop from UK’s Independent

    Exclusive
    Warning: Oil supplies are running out fast

    Catastrophic shortfalls threaten economic recovery, says world’s top energy economist

    By Steve Connor, Science Editor

    Monday, 3 August 2009

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    The world is heading for a catastrophic energy crunch that could cripple a global economic recovery because most of the major oil fields in the world have passed their peak production, a leading energy economist has warned.

    Higher oil prices brought on by a rapid increase in demand and a stagnation, or even decline, in supply could blow any recovery off course, said Dr Fatih Birol, the chief economist at the respected International Energy Agency (IEA) in Paris, which is charged with the task of assessing future energy supplies by OECD countries.

  352. samhenry says:

    dog doggone tired – up early – overboard in sluggish mode. Uses inner tube to paddle to shore. Spoiled pooch,.

  353. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!
    2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won’t go up
    2 Obama administration officials can’t guarantee middle-class Americans won’t see tax hike

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s treasury secretary said Sunday he cannot rule out higher taxes to help tame an exploding budget deficit, and his chief economic adviser would not dismiss raising them on middle-class Americans as part of a health care overhaul.

    As the White House sought to balance campaign rhetoric with governing, officials appeared willing to extend unemployment benefits. With former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan saying he is “pretty sure we’ve already seen the bottom” of the recession, Obama aides sought to defend the economic stimulus and calm a jittery public.

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Larry Summers both sidestepped questions on Obama’s intentions about taxes. Geithner said the White House was not ready to rule out a tax hike to lower the federal deficit; Summers said Obama’s proposed health care overhaul needs funding from somewhere.

    “There is a lot that can happen over time,” Summers said, adding that the administration believes “it is never a good idea to absolutely rule things out, no matter what.”

    During his presidential campaign, Obama repeatedly vowed “you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.” But the simple reality remains that his ambitious overhaul of how Americans receive health care — promised without increasing the federal deficit — must be paid for.

    “If we want an economy that’s going to grow in the future, people have to understand we have to bring those deficits down. And it’s going to be difficult, hard for us to do. And the path to that is through health care reform,” Geithner said. “We’re not at the point yet where we’re going to make a judgment about what it’s going to take.”

    Selling that proposal, however, has proved tricky.

    On Friday, the government released a report that suggested the worst recession in the United States since World War II appears on the verge of ending. The economy dipped only slightly in the second quarter of this year — falling at a 1 percent annual pace, better than expected.

    The president cautioned against instant turnaround, though.

    “Well, as I’ve said, I think we maybe are beginning to see the end of the recession, but it’s still going to be some time before we are seeing companies hiring again. That’s usually the last thing that happens,” Obama said in an interview with Univision that aired on Sunday.

    “So I think we are still going to have a tough remainder of the year — probably until next year — but, you know, at least what we are seeing — we’ve pulled back from the possibility of a depression. That’s not the danger.”

    Many analysts think the economy is starting to grow again in the current quarter, setting up a long-awaited recovery.

    “Most private forecasters — and let’s use their judgment — suggest you’re going to see unemployment start to come down maybe beginning in the second half of next year,” Geithner said, adding those same economists predict positive growth during the second half of this year.

    At the same time, Geithner and other administration officials are contemplating how to ask Congress to extend — again — unemployment benefits for the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in recent months. The proposal drew measured support from Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., as long as the benefits are drawn from the already approved economic stimulus package.

    “We need to take care of those who are unemployed, but we also need to make sure they get jobs,” he said.

    Those jobs, though, are still elusive. Greenspan said the economy is slowly coming back.

    “Collapse, I think, is now off the table. We were teetering for a while,” he said.

    Greenspan said he doesn’t think the Federal Reserve should be considering raising interest rates to ward off inflation, although he added that the Fed will have to rein in credit and raise rates at some point.

    Obama’s opponent for the presidency, Sen. John McCain, questioned whether the administration’s actions will prove beneficial for the country.

    “I think it’s pretty clear, if you pump trillions of dollars into the economy, you will see some recovery,” the Arizona Republican said while giving Obama credit for the improvement. “But the long-term consequences, I think, are going to be, unfortunately, devastating unless we do something about it.”

    Geithner and Greenspan appeared on ABC’s “This Week.” Summers appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” and CBS’s “Face the Nation.” DeMint was interviewed on “Fox News Sunday.” McCain spoke with CNN’s “State of the Union.”

  354. tellitlikeitis says:

  355. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning, Tellit, SamH, and M2.

    Oil seems to be running low because of production cutbacks. This in and of itself is the next big threat to our economic recovery. It could derail it all together. On top of that add the inevitable fact that Obama and Company can and will be raising Taxes on the Middle Class. Those two things alone should create civil unrest, which seems to be the Goal of this Administration.

  356. tellitlikeitis says:

    College Grad Can’t Find Job, Wants $$$ Back

    She went to college to boost her chances of finding a great job once she got out of school, but now that that hasn’t happened, Trina Thompson wants her money back.

    Thompson, a graduate of Monroe College, is suing her school for the $70,000 she spent on tuition because she hasn’t found solid employment since receiving her bachelor’s degree in April, according to a published report.

    The business-oriented school in the Bronx didn’t do enough to help her find a job, Thompson alleges, so she wants a refund. The college says it does plenty for grads.

    The 27-year-old information-technology student accuses the school’s Office of Career Advancement for not living up to its end of the deal and offering her the leads and employment advice it promised, according to The New York Post.

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    “They have not tried hard enough to help me,” the beleaguered Bronx resident wrote in her lawsuit, filed July 24 in Bronx Supreme Court.

    Thompson’s mother is proud of her daughter for completing her college education, but acknowledges Trina is upset that all her high hopes haven’t panned out.

    The mother and daughter live together, but Trina’s mother, Carol, is a substitute teacher and the only one of the two who makes any money. They’re barely scraping enough together to get by, reports the Post.

    On top of her unemployment woes, Trina now faces mounting debt from student loans.

    “This is not the way we want to live our life,” her mom told the paper. “This is not what we planned.”

    Monroe defends its career-advice programs and is adamant that its staff assists young professionals in their careers.

    “The lawsuit is completely without merit,” school spokesman Gary Axelbank told the Post. “The college prides itself on the excellent career-development support that we provide to each of our students, and this case does not deserve further consideration.”

    On the school’s Web site, the career program boasts that it provides free services for graduates at any point in their lives

  357. tellitlikeitis says:

    Iran is ready to build an N-bomb – it is just waiting for the Ayatollah’s order

    Iran has perfected the technology to create and detonate a nuclear warhead and is merely awaiting the word from its Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to produce its first bomb, Western intelligence sources have told The Times.

    The sources said that Iran completed a research programme to create weaponised uranium in the summer of 2003 and that it could feasibly make a bomb within a year of an order from its Supreme Leader.

    A US National Intelligence Estimate two years ago concluded that Iran had ended its nuclear arms research programme in 2003 because of the threat from the American invasion of Iraq. But intelligence sources have told The Times that Tehran had halted the research because it had achieved its aim — to find a way of detonating a warhead that could be launched on its long-range Shehab-3 missiles.

    They said that, should Ayatollah Khamenei approve the building of a nuclear device, it would take six months to enrich enough uranium and another six months to assemble the warhead. The Iranian Defence Ministry has been running a covert nuclear research department for years, employing hundreds of scientists, researchers and metallurgists in a multibillion-dollar programme to develop nuclear technology alongside the civilian nuclear programme
    “The main thing (in 2003) was the lack of fissile material, so it was best to slow it down,” the sources said. “We think that the leader himself decided back then (to halt the programme), after the good results.”

    Iran’s scientists have been trying to master a method of detonating a bomb known as the “multipoint initiation system” — wrapping highly enriched uranium in high explosives and then detonating it. The sources said that the Iranian Defence Ministry had used a secret internal agency called Amad (“Supply” in Farsi), led by Mohsin Fakhri Zadeh, a physics professor and senior member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Council.

    The system operates by creating a series of explosive grooves on a metal hemisphere covering the uranium, which links explosives-filled holes opening onto a layer of high explosives enveloping the uranium. By detonating the explosives at either pole at the same time, the method ensures simultaneous impact around the sphere to achieve critical density.

    “If the Supreme Leader takes the decision (to build a bomb), we assess they have to enrich low-enriched uranium to highly-enriched uranium at the Natanz plant, which could take six months, depending on how many centrifuges are operating. We don’t know if the decision was made yet,” said the intelligence sources, adding that Iran could have created smaller, secret facilities, other than those at the heavily guarded bunker at Natanz to develop materials for a first bomb. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency only keep tabs on fissile material produced at monitored sites and not the number of centrifuges that Iran has built.

    Washington has given Iran until next month to open talks on resolving the nuclear crisis, although hopes of any constructive engagement have dimmed since the regime’s crackdown on pro-reformist protesters after June’s disputed presidential elections.

    Ehud Barak, Israel’s Defence Minister, last week reiterated that a military strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities was still an option, should the talks fail. Israeli officials estimate that a raid on Natanz and a nuclear facility at Arak, in central Iran, would set Iran’s nuclear programme back by two to three years.

    An Israeli official said that Iran had poured billions of dollars over three decades into a two-pronged “master plan” to build a nuclear bomb. He said that Iran had enriched 1,010kg of uranium to 3.9 per cent, which would be sufficient for 30kg of highly enriched uranium at 95 per cent. About 30kg is needed to build one bomb.

    British intelligence services are familiar with the secret information about Iran’s experiments, sources at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said. Although British agencies did not have their own “independent evidence” that Iran had successfully tested the explosive component of a nuclear warhead, they said there was no reason to doubt the assessment.

    If Iran’s leader does decide to build a bomb, he will have two choices, intelligence sources said. One would be to take the high-risk approach of kicking out the international inspectors and making a sprint to complete Iran’s first bomb, as the country weathered international sanctions or possible air strikes in the ensuing crisis. The other would be to covertly develop the materials needed for an arsenal in secret desert facilities.

    Last week, during a series of high-level US visits to Israel, officials outlined Washington’s plans to step up sanctions on Iran, should Tehran fail to agree on talks. Robert Gates, the Defence Secretary, and General James Jones, the National Security Adviser, said that Iran had until the end of next month, when the UN General Assembly is to meet, to make a positive move towards engagement.

    If Tehran fails to respond, Washington aims to build a tough international coalition to impose harsh sanctions focusing on petroleum products — an area where Iran is particularly vulnerable because it sends almost all of its crude abroad for refinement.

    Experts believe that the unrest of the summer will make Iran particularly vulnerable to sanctions. They would also hit the Revolutionary Guards Council, which finances its operations by running a huge conglomerate of international companies, rather than drawing directly from state coffers.

  358. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Sam and m2. I am not surprised. Obama’s lied about everything else so did anyone think the middle class wasn’t going to get hit with new taxes. There aren’t enough rich people to tax so the middleclass is where the money is. They can tax me all they want to but they are not going to be able to get blood from a turnip. I about tappped out. Howabout you?

  359. m2 says:

    Tellit, he should be impeached for his LIES and for his destruction/treason to this country.

    ___________________________________
    Yet we now know that this life story is chock full of fiction. Typical and disturbing, to take just one example, is the entirely fabricated account in Dreams from My Father of Obama’s first job after college:

    Eventually a consulting house to multinational corporations agreed to hire me as a research assistant. Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office and sat at my computer terminal, checking the Reuters machine that blinked bright emerald messages from across the globe. As far as I could tell I was the only black man in the company, a source of shame for me but a source of considerable pride for the company’s secretarial pool. They treated me like a son, those black ladies; they told me how they expected me to run the company one day. . . . The company promoted me to the position of financial writer. I had my own office, my own secretary, money in the bank. Sometimes, coming out of an interview with Japanese financiers or German bond traders, I would catch my reflection in the elevator doors — see myself in a suit and tie, a briefcase in my hand — and for a split second I would imagine myself as a captain of industry, barking out orders, closing the deal, before I remembered who it was that I had told myself I wanted to be and felt pangs of guilt for my lack of resolve. . . .

    As the website Sweetness & Light details, this is bunk.
    Obama did not work at “a consulting house to multinational corporations”; it was, a then-colleague of his has related, “a small company that published newsletters on international business.” He wasn’t the only black man in the company, and he didn’t have an office, have a secretary, wear a suit and tie on the job, or conduct “interviews” with “Japanese financiers or German bond traders” — he was a junior copyeditor.

    What’s unnerving about this is that it is so gratuitous. It would have made no difference to anyone curious about Obama’s life that he, like most of us, took a ho-hum entry-level job to establish himself. But Obama lies about the small things, the inconsequential things, just as he does about the important ones — depending on what he is trying to accomplish at any given time.

    In the above fairy tale, he sought to frame his life as a morality play: the hero giving up the cushy life of the capitalist “enemy” for the virtues of community organizing. But we’ve seen this dance a hundred times. If Obama wants to strike a connection with graduating students in Moscow, he makes up a story about meeting his “future wife . . . in class” (Barack and Michelle Obama met at work). If he wants to posture about his poverty and struggle in America, he waxes eloquent about his single mother’s surviving on “food stamps” so she could use every cent to send him “to the best schools in the country” (Obama was raised by his maternal grandparents, who had good jobs and were able to pull strings to get him into an elite Hawaiian prep school). If he wants to tie himself to the civil-rights struggle of African Americans, he tells an audience in Selma, “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma . . . so [my parents] got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born” (Obama was born in 1961, four years before the civil-rights march in Selma — by which time his parents had divorced and his mother was planning a move to Indonesia with the second of her two non-African-American husbands). If he wants to buy a home he can’t afford, he “unwittingly” collaborates with a key fundraiser (who had been publicly reported to be under federal investigation for fraud and political corruption). If he wants to sell a phony stimulus as a job-creator, he tells the country that Caterpillar has told him the stimulus will enable the company “to rehire some of the folks who were just laid off” (Caterpillar’s CEO actually said no, “we’re going to have more layoffs before we start hiring again”).

    The fact is that Obama’s account of his background is increasingly revealed as a fabrication, not his life as lived; his utterances reflect the expediencies of the moment, not the truth. What is supposed to save the country from fraudulence of this sort is the media. Here, though, the establishment press is deep in Obama’s tank — so much so that they can’t even accurately report his flub of a ceremonial opening pitch lest he come off as something less than Sandy Koufax. Astonishingly, reporters see their job not as reporting Obama news but as debunking Obama news, or flat-out suppressing it. How many Americans know, for example, that as a sitting U.S. senator in 2006, Obama interfered in a Kenyan election, publicly ripping the incumbent government (a U.S. ally) for corruption while he was its guest and barnstorming with his preferred candidate: a Marxist now known to have made a secret agreement with Islamists to convert Kenya to sharia law, and whose supporters, upon losing the election, committed murder and mayhem, displacing thousands of Kenyans and plunging their country into utter chaos?

  360. samiam60 says:

    M2 that was a most informative Fox News piece and I am sure that will be echoed around these United States in days to come.

  361. tellitlikeitis says:

  362. tellitlikeitis says:

  363. samiam60 says:

    Automobile Association warns dealers to hold off on Cash for Clunkers program.

    http://news.aol.com/article/obama-may-raise-taxes-on-middle-class/596102

  364. samiam60 says:

    Wrong link, sorry

  365. samhenry says:

    Hi Sami, Tellit, M2 – Here’s proof positive about what socialized society will be like:

    MULLINS SAYS SOUTHWEST VIRGINIANS WOULD RATHER BE ON WELFARE THAN WORKING

    From the Recorder newspaper in Bath/Highland Counties:

    Mullins “He ended his talk with a story about a Wise County insurance office that had to close two offices, not due to lack of work or the economy, but because it couldn’t find employees. He said the employer tried to recruit employees at a nearby college campus. “They preferred to be on welfare,” Mullins said.

    That is the legacy of Democratic rule, he inferred, and one more reason Virginians need to vote Republican.”

    How totally out of touch can the Republicans get about our unemployment problem in Virginia? Do they really believe that it is impossible to find workers because they would rather be on welfare? Is that what “Bob for Jobs” is really about?

    Pathetic, Pat.
    http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2009/08/mullins-says-southwest-virginians-would-rather-be-on-welfare-than-working.html

  366. samhenry says:

    Off to a spa – yes the unemployed sometimes treat themselves just to get through one more day of insolvency. Later gators.

  367. samiam60 says:

    Cash for Clunkers cannot get the correct link for some reason.

    By the way they should re-name the program:

    Clash over Clunkers: Dealers get screwed.

  368. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama lies revisited.

  369. tellitlikeitis says:

    The democrat strategy for winning in 2010.
    More Bush Bashing!

    Democrats Continue Anti-Bush Campaign
    Ex-President’s Record Used Against McDonnell

    By Rosalind S. Helderman
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, August 3, 2009

    Six months after George W. Bush, the man, quietly decamped to a Dallas suburb, George W. Bush, the political symbol, has come out of retirement.

    Convinced that Americans still hold Bush responsible for the nation’s economic woes — and will show more patience with Democratic policies if reminded of their dissatisfaction with the eight years of his presidency — Democratic candidates have stepped up efforts to link GOP opponents to Bush, repeating a strategy that helped them take over Congress, the White House and a number of state offices in the past two election cycles.

    In Virginia, Democratic gubernatorial candidate R. Creigh Deeds has pounced on statements by Republican Robert F. McDonnell indicating that Bush’s tax cuts were good for the economy in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The Bush name has littered Deeds’s statements in the past week.

    “Let’s be clear: George Bush is responsible for our economic problems,” Deeds said recently when asked an unrelated question about the record of the state’s sitting Democratic governor. “We are more than happy to compare their records.”

    Likewise, in New Jersey, the only other state with a November gubernatorial election, Gov. Jon S. Corzine (D) has been running ads that tie his Republican opponent, Christopher Christie, to Bush. With President Obama at his side last month, Corzine warned against handing over New Jersey’s statehouse to the “same people who failed so miserably in the White House.”

    And last week, the Democratic National Committee released ads targeting four Republican members of Congress whom they accuse of blocking Obama’s agenda, tagging the group with backing Bush policies that created the recession. “They broke it,” the ad says. “Now they refuse to fix it.”

    The strategy is aimed at defusing Republican attacks on Obama’s administration by refocusing attention on how unhappy people were when Bush was in charge. And in New Jersey and Virginia, it is designed to recapture the electoral enthusiasm that brought Democrats victory last year.

    The two states will serve as a testing ground to see whether candidates can still turn elections into a referendum on the Bush years. If successful, it is a playbook likely to be used again for the 2010 congressional elections and beyond.

    “One of the benefits of being in the minority is you get to sit on the sidelines and throw stones,” said Nathan Daschle, executive director of the Democratic Governors Association. “We as a party need to remind people of their record when they were in power.”

    Republicans insist that voters have already shifted responsibility for the economy to Democrats, who control Congress and the White House. They say that Bush has lost his potency to excite voters and that running against his record again is a trap that will lead voters to conclude that Democrats do not have plans for the future.

    “I’m sure what happens is they sit around the table and poll George Bush and find that he’s still unpopular,” said Phil Musser, former executive director of the Republican Governors Association and a political strategist. “Shocking! But it’s a tired argument that reflects an old playbook. Didn’t America just vote to change the negative politics of the past?”

    The Deeds campaign believes McDonnell has made Bush relevant again through comments suggesting that he would be guided by the economic philosophies that drove Bush to cut taxes in the early part of this decade.

    In late June, McDonnell, a former attorney general, told an audience that Bush’s tax reductions were “followed by an unprecedented period of economic recovery and economic growth” that by 2006 had “almost overheated” the nation’s markets.

    “I think that’s the way you stimulate business,” McDonnell said. “And that’s the kind of governor that I’m going to be, to reduce those impediments to entrepreneurship, to let small businesses grow and thrive and create some opportunity.”

    Add those comments to McDonnell’s record as a member of the House of Delegates — where he opposed budgetary policies advanced by Gov. Mark Warner (D), now a U.S. senator and the most popular political figure in the state — and the Deeds camp believes it has a powerful argument that Virginians cannot trust McDonnell to manage state government in a recession.

    “People remembered the disastrous era of Herbert Hoover, and Democrats successfully ran against him for a long time,” said Deeds’s campaign manager, Joe Abbey. “Even in the era of Facebook and Twitter, people remember six months ago.”

    Rather than backing off his embrace of Bush tax cuts, McDonnell reaffirmed his praise for Bush’s handling of the economy during his first years in office when he met Deeds in their first debate a little more than a week ago. He insisted that freeing business from government regulation is the way to spur growth.

    But a spokesman notes that McDonnell has criticized Bush for failing to curb federal spending. McDonnell was also a critic of No Child Left Behind and a Bush-era Energy Department policy, seeking to dictate power line placement to states, that met bipartisan opposition in Virginia.

    McDonnell has also praised Obama’s education platform even as he has tried to saddle Deeds with Obama’s push for health care reform, limits on greenhouse emissions and the federal stimulus spending, all of which McDonnell believes make Virginians uneasy.

    “I don’t think anyone would disagree that you don’t get into an economy like this one without mistakes being made by both parties,” said McDonnell spokesman Tucker Martin. “I wish we had the luxury to stand around and debate who’s to blame. But I don’t think Virginians have time for it.”

    Indeed, according to a July poll in New Jersey by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, only 10 percent of those surveyed felt it was fair for Corzine to attack Christie as being too close to Bush, while 77 percent said Corzine should focus on state issues.

    “You remember Bush? He used to be president? Now he’s a guy who lives in Texas,” said Maurice Carroll, director of the institute. “I just don’t know if it’s going to work.”

    But Bush has hardly dropped from the headlines, as new revelations about his administration emerge almost daily. The goal in the two state races, Democrats say, is to use Bush’s policies to draw an analogy as to how Republicans would govern on local issues.

    And, if it works, Bush will be back for the congressional midterm elections next year.

    “If the two Democrats win governor’s posts by attacking George Bush, you better believe you’ll see a lot of it in 2010,” said national Democratic strategist Tad Devine. “These races are real-world laboratories, to a very real extent. If, in fact, we see Democrats lose, that could be the end of Bush bashing.”

  370. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi SH! Bye SH!

  371. tellitlikeitis says:

    Cash for clunkers. More Obama gimmickery and taxpayer waste to give car dealers a one month shot in the arm.

  372. tellitlikeitis says:

    Austin’s got it right. Just say no to Obamacare!

  373. tellitlikeitis says:

  374. LisaInTX says:

    Chuck Norris asks Obama to present his REAL birth Certificate
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105767

  375. tellitlikeitis says:

  376. LisaInTX says:

    “The ordaining of laws in favor of one part of the nation, to the prejudice and oppression of another, is certainly the most erroneous and mistaken policy. An equal dispensation of protection, rights, privileges, and advantages, is what every part is entitled to, and ought to enjoy.” –Benjamin Franklin, Emblematical Representations, 1774

  377. rosehips says:

    morning peeps. just doing a driveby to say hey and leave you with this inspiring news item. But no worries since global warming is just a hoax perpetrated by Al Gore to line his pockets with dough. ho ho ho

    damn, I wish I could hear some good news for once. Anyone know of any?

    Have a great day everybody.

    VF, is it a golf day?

    The seven terrors of the world
    Rob Edwards

    Published on 2 Aug 2009

    The world is facing a series of interlinked crises which threatens billions of people and could cause the collapse of civilisation, according to an international report out this week.

    Climate pollution, food shortages, diseases, wars, disasters, crime and the recession are all conspiring to ravage the globe and threaten the future of humanity, it warns. Democracy, human rights and press freedom are also suffering.

    The report, called 2009 State Of The Future, has been compiled by the Millennium Project, an international think-tank based in Washington DC, and involved 2700 experts from 30 countries.

    “Half the world appears vulnerable to social instability and violence,” the report says. “This is due to rising unemployment and decreasing food, water and energy supplies, coupled with the disruptions caused by global warming and mass migrations.”

    for the entire article: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport-environment/the-seven-terrors-of-the-world-1.821224#

  378. LisaInTX says:

    Okay, so now that people are PISSED the HELL off, our unethical leaders now decide that they will refuse to even take the heat for their corrupted and irresponsible behavior. Ahhhhh…..too bad assholes. Stand up and be ACCOUNTABLE—We The People DEMAND IT!!!

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105758
    WASHINGTON – Call it the tea party that never ends.

    A rebellion is brewing in home congressional districts of incumbent Democrats evidenced by the reaction at several town hall meetings.

    Members are being forced to suspend meetings with their constituents, screaming protesters are being dragged out of events by police and officials are being greeted by protest signs and chants.

    Rep. Tim Bishop, D-N.Y., has called off further events.

    “I had felt they would be pointless,” he said. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

  379. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning rose and lisa. Yes rose there is some good news for us today. The good news is that we are all still alive.

  380. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lisa , check out the vid clip from austin.

  381. samiam60 says:

    Morning Rose and Lisa.

    Rose it must be true if you found it on the internet.

  382. LisaInTX says:

    Good morning Rose, Tellit, M2, Sami, Samh and any I may have missed….

    The good news at my house is that it has finally stopped raining!
    Bad news is that my acre of yard is now about a foot high and needs to be mowed…..

  383. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit
    I saw that and the one of spector the deflector….
    I LOVE it!!!
    People are PISSED OFF and it is only going to get worse if those morons don’t figure things out soon=— that it is WE THE PEOPLE that rule this Nation, not them.

  384. LisaInTX says:

    Sorry I can’t stay but I gotta run take care of some business….y’all have a great day…..:-}

  385. samiam60 says:

    Lisa did you get your pm straightened out?

  386. rosehips says:

    hey tellit, lisa…
    enjoy the spa sh….

    Sorry to be off topic. I have a big assignment due today and I am getting to work toute suite so I cannot read comments or respond. I saw the articles in the bulletin I get every day and found them interesting.

    Okay, I am now going to go hunt for my rose colored glasses. I really think I need to put them on or I might self-destruct.

    Woodstock lives on 40 years later…gots to get back to the garden. see you!

    This is from Conservation magazine. It brings up some good points about how unpredictable the outcomes of the changing climate really are. I thought y’all might be interested since it does question the cause and impacts of global warming…

    Is a Warmer World a Sicker World?
    As scientists piece together how climate impacts disease, strange patterns are emerging: mosquito outbreaks can follow drought, shorter migrations can make butterflies sick, and more birds (not fewer) can ward off West Nile virus.

    By Roberta Kwok

    In the late 1990s, a set of alarming maps created a stir in the scientific community. Based on predictions by a team of Dutch and Australian researchers and initially published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, the maps charted how global warming could increase the risk of malaria in seemingly unlikely locales: northern countries such as Poland, the Netherlands, and Russia.

    Over the next several years, versions of the maps continued to appear in journals and at scientific meetings as researchers raised the disquieting possibility that climate change could trigger an expansion of disease. An article in Scientific American reprinted one iteration of the maps and declared that “by the end of the 21st century, ongoing warming will have enlarged the zone of potential malaria transmission from an area containing 45 percent of the world’s population to an area containing about 60 percent.” Statements like these added to the popular perception that a warmer world will automatically be a sicker one.

    But what if this isn’t true, or is only partially true? Kevin Lafferty, an ecologist at the U.S. Geological Survey, is among a handful of scientists now raising these questions and rethinking conventional wisdom. Lafferty recently published a controversial article in the journal Ecology suggesting that, while climate change may shift the ranges of certain diseases, it won’t necessarily increase the total amount of territory they affect. (1) And Sarah Randolph, a parasite ecologist at the University of Oxford, has reviewed recent disease outbreaks—some of which have been attributed to global warming—and concluded that human actions and other factors may have played a larger role than climate.

    Lafferty’s and Randolph’s opinions have stirred intense debate. While there are credible arguments on both sides, the overriding point is that some scientists are beginning to see the ecology of disease as far too complicated to support simple declarations about the impact of global warming. It turns out that disease ecology is made up of a multitude of moving parts, ranging from precipitation patterns to animal migrations, that constantly shift and adjust in relation to each other. And when climate changes, the end result may be an increase in disease—or not.
    for the whole article:
    http://www.conservationmagazine.org/articles/v10n3/is-a-warmer-world-a-sicker-world/

  387. tellitlikeitis says:

    media bias? No coverage of dead in afganistan.

  388. tellitlikeitis says:

    More and more dissent! Don’t you just love it!! People are waking up!

  389. LisaInTX says:

    I wrote about this 5 mths ago!!
    Now I really gotta run!! lol
    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-211897

    I find it OH SO OBVIOUS of Jeffery Immelt, owner of MSNBC (The “MEDIA VETTORS” of Obama) AND owner and CEO of General Electrics (which BTW has LOST allot of money since he took over), to accept the “kickback” job of being an ‘adviser’ on the NEW Recovery PORK-US BILL–If you people can’t follow the money and IMO, the paybacks-sooooo sorry now? haha Oh and did you also know that GE was also in on the last NEW DEAL1930’s under FDR?? Tell ME history don’t repeat itself!! Don’t get any better than this!!!!! Talk about a Chess game!! Wow-I miss the simple days of “GO Fish”
    As I was watching Glenn Beck this afternoon, I saw the segment about the National Recovery Act by FDR. After looking up the Act online, I was very surprised to see where General Electric played a BIG part in this act back during FDR’s day and NOW, we have Jeffery Immelt, Current owner and CEO of General Electric who just “happened” to be brought in by Pres. Obama, as an adviser in HIS “President’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board”

  390. LisaInTX says:

    Jeffrey Immelt (born February 19, 1956, Cincinnati, OH) is the current chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the U.S. based conglomerate General Electric. He was selected by GE’s Board of Directors in 2000 to replace John Francis Welch Jr. (Jack Welch) following his retirement. Previously, Immelt had headed up GE’s Medical Systems division (now known as GE Healthcare) as its President and CEO. In February, 2009, Immelt was appointed as a member to the President’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board to provide the president and his administration with advice and counsel in fixing America’s economic downturn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._Immelt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Economic_Recovery_Advisory_Board http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Universal GENERAL ELECTRIC As of 2003 Television Holdings: * NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households. * NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise. * CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%). The “MS” in MSNBC means microsoft Other Holdings: * GE Consumer Electronics. * GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants. * GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment. * GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.

  391. tellitlikeitis says:

    You gotta watch these videos. People are fired up! These congressman and senators better stay in DC because they are getting their asses reamed when they go home . lol!

  392. Foxwood says:

    Morning all…

    Been a long two weeks, and I had some work I had to do over the weekend. I’m sore, but want to share some info when I have more time tonight.

    Tellit, I don’t think the Reps and Senators know what’s going to hit them. I was under the impression they would avoid us so they don’t have to hear it, but between youtube and FOX news, I’m seeing alot of people give the politicians hell.

    Did you see the lady that bitch slapped Arlen Sphincter?

  393. tellitlikeitis says:

    These vids are great!

  394. Foxwood says:

    Morning Lisa, Rose, Telit.

  395. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Foxwood! How are you? Bitch slap Spector? Really? Where’s the vid? There has got to be a vid for that.

  396. Foxwood says:

    Saw it on FOX and Friends this morning, it that helps.

  397. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood you mean he was bitch slapped figuratively not literaly. right?

  398. tellitlikeitis says:

  399. Foxwood says:

    Yeah, but it would be good to see it literally. I’ve been looking for it, but I can’t find it. He went to a town hall meeting and got the smack down.

  400. Foxwood says:

    Audience Shouts Down Sebelius, Specter at Health Care Town Hall in Philadelphia
    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Sen. Arlen Specter got a preview Sunday of the tough sell lawmakers will face over health care reforms.

    FOXNews.com

    Monday, August 03, 2009

    Aug. 2, 2009: Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Sen. Arlen Specter take questions from a boisterous audience in Philadelphia (FNC).

    Sunday: Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Sen. Arlen Specter take questions from a boisterous audience in Philadelphia (FNC).

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Sen. Arlen Specter got a preview Sunday of the tough sell lawmakers will face over health care as audience members booed and jeered them during a town hall meeting in Philadelphia.

    Among those at odds with the officials touting the $1 trillion, 10-year plan was a woman who earned loud applause when she said she doesn’t want Washington interfering with her health care choices.

    “I look at this health care plan and I see nothing that is about health or about care. What I see is a bureaucratic nightmare, senator. Medicaid is broke, Medicare is broke, Social Security is broke and you want us to believe that a government that can’t even run a cash for clunkers program is going to run one-seventh of our U.S. economy? No sir, no,” she said.

    Click here to see the video of the town hall meeting.

    While supporters offered courteous applause to the officials, Sebelius didn’t earn any fans when she said that if lawmakers say they don’t understand the legislation voters should urge them to go back and read it.

    Specter was shouted down when he said that lawmakers divide up the bills into sections and have their staffs read portions because, “We have to make judgments very fast.”

    He then said he will have read the Senate bill before he votes on it, which Sebelius pointed out hasn’t been written yet.

    “The Senate bill isn’t written so don’t boo the senator for not reading a bill that isn’t written,” she said.

    That explanation, which undermined an earlier failed argument that the legislation should be passed quickly, didn’t satisfy many of the more than 400 people estimated in attendance.

    Dozens in the back shouted at Sebelius when she said the bill would stop the system of rationing that insurance companies use. Sebelius then scolded the audience who jeered her, saying she would take questions if people could stop shouting at each other.

    The anger is just a sample of the reaction lawmakers are bracing for as they try to sell the massive plan wending its way through Congress. The House Energy and Commerce Committee passed its version — one of five in Congress – late Friday before the House broke for the August recess.

    They are using that month’s time to sell the plan to voters. For those Democrats who haven’t read the 1,000 pages of legislation, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has handed out cards with talking points to address constituents’ concerns.

    The card, labeled “health insurance reform to hold insurance companies accountable” drives home two points — one, that the health care bill is good for consumers, and two, that Congress will hold the insurance industry accountable.

    But while insurance companies are low on voter opinion polls, Congress is viewed even less favorably. And Republicans are seeking to capitalize on the intense scrutiny President Obama is facing over his top priority, issuing a new ad out Monday that tries to make light of the situation.

    “Like the old joke goes, President Obama isn’t a doctor, but he plays one on TV,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner, calling the ad lighthearted but pinpointing a serious issue.

    “Americans want lower health care costs — not a trillion-dollar government takeover of health care that increases costs and lets Washington bureaucrats make decisions that should be made by doctors and patients.”

  401. Foxwood says:

    Got to get to the next cellsite. BRB.

  402. tellitlikeitis says:

    Where is VF? Golfing?

  403. tellitlikeitis says:

    Some nonpolitical news for today.

    Posted: Monday, 03 August 2009 9:54AM

    3 scorned Wis. women charged with tying up lover

    STOCKBRIDGE, Wis. (AP) — Three Wisconsin women are accused of tying up and assaulting a married man after allegedly finding out he was having affairs with each of them.

    The women are each charged with false imprisonment, a felony that carries a maximum prison term of six years.

    Calumet County prosecutors say 48-year-old Therese A. Ziemann of Menasha lured the man to a Stockbridge motel last Thursday. Prosecutors say she was soon joined by 43-year-old Michelle Belliveau of Neenah; 43-year-old Wendy L. Sewell of Kaukauna; and the man’s wife.

    Authorities say Ziemann punched the man in the face and applied Krazy Glue to other body parts. All four women allegedly fled with his cell phone, wallet and vehicle.

    Prosecutors also plan to charge the wife.

    Online court records didn’t list defense attorneys for any woman Monday.

    Stockbridge is southeast of Appleton.

  404. m2 says:

    LOL LOL!!!

    rosehips copied: “Half the world appears vulnerable to social instability and violence,” the report says. “This is due to rising unemployment and decreasing food, water and energy supplies, coupled with the disruptions caused by global warming and mass migrations.”

    ____
    Newsflash. This is due to autocratic governments controlling freedom. Much like Obama. Why do you think Dem Farmers despised Obama’s cap and tax?

    Because if it goes through, there will be FOOD SHORTAGES. Just like there will be ENERGY SHORTAGES.

    All of this is thanks to Leftist thought of control and servitude. They will create the Armagheddon with their own policies and government. Why the hell do you think Africa is in eternal famine?

    Because of the dictator leftist autocratic bully control of their STATIST leaders…

    please.

  405. m2 says:

    Oh let’s not leave out how lethal Liberals and Leftists are to “employment” jobs and economy.

    it’s the absence and enemies of Freedom that create all misery and chaos in the world.

  406. tellitlikeitis says:

    New news on Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

  407. tellitlikeitis says:

  408. m2 says:

    It’s all well and good to say that you and others looked into this, found proof of birth and didn’t bother to report it because there was no story. That sounds sane and logical. Unfortunately, this was happening at the same time as hard hitting pieces in the NYT that were giving weight to McCain’s birth and eligibility. Color me cynical but one does have to wonder if the NYT’s went with the ridiculous McCain piece just in case the Obama birth certificate gained legs.

    All throughout the last race, anytime anyone brought up anything(Ayers,Wright/Alinski,Reszko,birth,muslim school) they were immediately painted as kooks and some reporter/newsman/network would assure us that all this had been looked into and no story was found. Nothing there. Nothing to print. We had to trust the journalists, the press.

    Thing is, Ayers wasn’t simply an ex weatherman/neighbor…he’s been a very strong voice in education theory. And his theory is very clearly in line with Alinsky….want to overthrow democracy? Get to the kids, teach them about progessives and collectivism. Teach them that every want is a right and that it’s their duty to work for the collective good. And yes, Obama’s only real management job was working with Ayers handing out monies for the betterment of education. Too bad the money never went to math or reading programs….yep, they went straight to programs that fell in line with a socialist program. But the Ayers angle didn’t need reporting further than reporters scoffing at the lunatic fringe sniffing after an ex terrorist. The people certainly didn’t need to know that those ‘socialists’ slurs might actually hold a nugget of truth. There couldn’t be an interesting story connecting Obama’s own political theory to ACORN and the massive turnout of youth…nah, no story there at all. Nothing to report.

    Wright? Again not a story. Obama was above all that and hadn’t in 20 years heard a single thing Wright said. No story to be reported. And yet, he defends a socialist professor against a white cop. It was a knee jerk case of profiling. And yet, who profiled whom? And after Wright can we really say there was no evidence that should have been looked into by journalists as to how Obama felt about race relations?

    The nutty muslim thing…..no story there. Just as nutty as the birther thing. Except we have a major speech given, a touching speech actually, where the President discusses his muslim beginnings. Wait. I thought his campaign and the press assured us that the muslim stuff was all fiction cooked up by the nutty fringe? Those ridiculous rumors about being educated in a muslim school? No need to report the truth about his interesting diverse beginnings…just call it kooky, nutty..no need to risk the people questioning the candidate.

    Over and over we get these little flashes of the truth in the ‘nuttiness’ and it’s disconcerting…..is it really any wonder that some of us may look at all this birther stuff , remember the incredulous McCain isn’t an american crap and wonder what exactly is going to come out about the president’s birth? I think this speaks volumes about the level of distrust between the press and the people. When you guys tell us there’s no story…when the ‘irrefutable’ proof is left to websites and blogs and not disclosed in the papers like say…McCain’s birth story or his affair story then you run the risk of the people saying there’s a there THERE. It’s great that YOU found the evidence and were satisfied….problem is, you are supposed to give us facts where WE decide. You had no problem doing this with Clinton or McCain even when it strained the very definition of fact. No, story after story was written on little or no names sources.

    But with Obama, you all decided that we should trust you. Nothing printed, nothing reported. Maybe this is about smearing the repubs…but my gut tells me that it’s much larger and it’s all about people realizing they can’t trust the purveyors of truth.

    Thanks. This 50 year old very moderate independent is now a conspiracy kook.

  409. m2 says:

    Politico:

    So much for the honeymoon period.

    Six months into her first term as North Carolina governor, Democrat Bev Perdue is facing dismal poll numbers that rank her as one of the most unpopular governors in the nation.

    Perdue’s approval rating has dropped precipitously since she took office, falling from a high of 60 percent in mid-January to an anemic 25 percent in mid-July, according to Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm.

    “It’s as ugly as I’ve ever seen for any governor at any time in our state,” says Dean Debnam, president of PPP.

  410. Foxwood says:

    M2 Said:
    “#

    Newsflash. This is due to autocratic governments controlling freedom. Much like Obama. Why do you think Dem Farmers despised Obama’s cap and tax?

    Because if it goes through, there will be FOOD SHORTAGES. Just like there will be ENERGY SHORTAGES.

    All of this is thanks to Leftist thought of control and servitude. They will create the Armagheddon with their own policies and government. Why the hell do you think Africa is in eternal famine?

    Because of the dictator leftist autocratic bully control of their STATIST leaders…

    please.

    Oh let’s not leave out how lethal Liberals and Leftists are to “employment” jobs and economy.

    it’s the absence and enemies of Freedom that create all misery and chaos in the world.”

    All good points M2!

  411. Foxwood says:

    Tellit,

    Above is the vid I was looking for.

    here is the link I got it from

    http://www.beaconstreetjournal.com/?p=447

  412. tellitlikeitis says:

  413. tellitlikeitis says:

  414. tellitlikeitis says:

    Thanks foxwood.

  415. Foxwood says:

    Hmmmm… That’s the same meeting, but not the vid I saw on Fox and Friends. What a saw was a woman hand Sphincter his nads.

  416. rosehips says:

    hey hey. sorry I can’t stay, respond, or bs wit yas. just taking a short break…

    Did you see this?

    here’s an article I read about the ad being placed during Lou’s show on CNN. HAHAHA

    The liberal media watchdog group Media Matters for America is ratcheting up the pressure on CNN this week with a television ad slamming the network for allowing host Lou Dobbs to continue raising questions about President Obama’s birth certificate on the air.

    In the ad, which Media Matters is seeking to run on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC for at least a week, the group spotlights Dobbs’ recent focus on the so-called birther controversy, fueled by right-wing critics of Obama who question whether he is really a citizen.

    “Let CNN know there’s nothing ‘legitimate’ about racially charged paranoia,” the ad says. The spot will begin airing Tuesday in New York, Atlanta and Washington, including during “Lou Dobbs Tonight,” the host’s daily CNN program. CNN did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    Dobbs has said that he believes Obama is a citizen, but has continued to report on the rumors, saying that the president should produce a long-form birth certificate for the sake of “transparency.”

    On his radio show Friday, Dobbs called Media Matters “a rabid, left-wing operation” and said the idea that they would run an ad against him “just really extraordinary.”

    “It isn’t an issue of legitimacy; it isn’t an issue of citizenship … because I believe he’s a citizen of the United States,” he said. “It’s an issue of just being open, transparent — deliver the goods and be done with it and move on … . If it’s not openness and transparency, then it’s pretty much arrogance on the part of this president, that he’s above the very same principles that were followed by, amongst others, John McCain throughout his campaign.”

    Late last month, CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told Dobbs’ producers in an internal e-mail that he believes the supposed controversy is a “dead” story. But in an interview, he defended Dobbs’ coverage and said he had not issued a directive for him to drop the topic.

    Dobbs has raised most of the questions about Obama’s birth certificate on his nationally syndicated radio program. His most recent reference to the issue on CNN was on July 28, when he reported that the director of the Hawaii Department of Health said she had seen Obama’s original birth certificate on file.

    “That official repeated her opinion that the president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4th, 1961,” Dobbs said.

    — Matea Gold
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/media-matters-launches-tv-ad-attacking-cnn-host-lou-dobbs.html

  417. rosehips says:

    here’s the link. It didn’t imbed prolly cuz I have two links there.

    ciao!

  418. samiam60 says:

    Make no mistake about it. IF it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama IS NOT a natural born citizen of the United States the dumb ass liberals are gonna just say: SO WHAT!

  419. samiam60 says:

    Thanks for the video Rosehips. Just proves the Liberals are all for censorship of anykind. Whats next? Book burning?

  420. tellitlikeitis says:

    Go to link to view documents.

    –http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

    BORN IN THE USA?
    Is this really smoking gun of Obama’s Kenyan birth?
    Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa
    Posted: August 02, 2009
    11:55 am Eastern

    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.

    This document purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth for Barack Obama, allegedly born in Mombasa, Kenya, in 1961

    The document lists Obama’s parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

    Document enlarged to show detail alleges Barack Obama was born at Coast General Hospital in Mombasa on Aug. 4, 1961

    No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.

    WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

    An enlarged view of the bottom of the document

    Last week, a counterfeit document purporting to be Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate made the rounds of the Internet, but was quickly determined to be fraudulent. The new document released by Taitz bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax.

    One of the issues Taitz must deal with will be the authentication of the document. Critics immediately jumped on the Feb. 17, 1964, date for the document, explaining that the “republic” of Kenya wasn’t assembled until in December of that year.

    Media Matters wrote, “Sorry, WorldNetDaily: Kenya wasn’t a republic until Dec. 1964.”

    But Kenya’s official independence was in 1963, and any number of labels could have been applied to government documents during that time period.

    At Ameriborn Constitution News, the researcher noted that the independence process for the nation actually started taking as early as 1957, when there were the first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council.

    “Kenya became an Independent Republic, December 12, 1963, which gives more [credibility] that this is a true document,” the website stated.

    The 1963 independence is corroborated by several other information sources, including the online African History.

    Even the People Daily news agency cited, on Dec. 12, 2005, the “42nd independence anniversary” in Nairobi. “The country gained independence from Britain on Dec. 12, 1963,” the report said.

    An online copy of the Kenya Constitution, “adopted in 1963, amended in 1999,” states: “CHAPTER I – THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA, Article 1, Kenya is a sovereign Republic. Article 1A, The Republic of Kenya shall be a multiparty democratic state…”

    It was in November 1964 when the region voluntarily became a one-party state, according to an online source.

    The region including Mombasa originally was dealt with as a separate independence movement, but it almost immediately became part of Kenya when the sultan of Zanzibar ceded the “coastal strip” to Kenya, according to sources.

    Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.”

    Taitz’s motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama’s birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    “I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds,” Taitz told WND. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].

    “I’m forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond,” she said.

    “Before, they said, ‘You don’t have anything backing your claims,'” Taitz explained. “Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on the Internet more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has signatures.”

    Join the petition campaign to demand President Obama resolve the question by revealing his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!

    Taitz’s most celebrated case involved a military officer, Maj. Stefan Cook, whose order to deploy to Afghanistan was revoked when he challenged Obama’s eligibility to hold office. That case has now been refiled in federal court in Florida, raising the specter of a class-action claim among members of the military that their orders aren’t valid because of questions surrounding Obama’s constitutional eligibility.

    Taitz told WND she plans to file additional paperwork with the Florida court tomorrow, adding the alleged Kenyan birth certificate to Maj. Cook’s case.

  421. samiam60 says:

    President Obama, can you honestly sing this song?

  422. tellitlikeitis says:

  423. tellitlikeitis says:

  424. Foxwood says:

    I bet he can’t honestly sing this song either.

  425. Foxwood says:

    This may be of some interest. I’m going to try to make it.

    http://912dc.org/

  426. karmahd says:

    Hello blog buddies internet still down be back soon

  427. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Karma!

  428. Foxwood says:

    Schumer hints at ‘reconciliation’ for health bill
    By Martin Kady II 01:31 PM
    August 03, 2009

    Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) sounds like he’s getting ready to play hardball this fall on health care, even if it means forgoing a Finance Committee deal and bypassing a filibuster by using “reconciliation” to push the bill through.

    More from POLITICO’s Carrie Budoff Brown:
    Schumer said the Senate will move ahead with health care reform this year regardless of whether Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) is able to strike a bipartisan deal.

    Baucus has until Sept. 15 to reach an agreement with Republicans — and that is still the goal.

    “But if we don’t, it is not going to stop us from moving forward with health care,” Schumer told reporters Monday. “If the Republicans are not able to produce an agreement (by then), we will have contingencies in place. Health reform is just too important to let this window pass by.”

    Among the options is invoking a procedural maneuver known as reconciliation, which would allow Senate Democrats to pass a bill with a simple majority rather than a 60-vote filibuster-proof threshold.
    Schumer would not say what other contingency plans he had in mind.

    “I’m going to leave it at that because we want to get a bipartisan deal,” Schumer said.

  429. Foxwood says:

    I gotta know your secret Karma, How do you get on the internet when it’s down?

    🙂

  430. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, You know they are going to somehow ram this national healthcare down our throats and up our a$$es.

  431. tellitlikeitis says:

  432. tellitlikeitis says:

  433. arlenearmy says:

    hey i just heard something on beck about the government taking over the computers thru that CARS CLUNKERS deal. Seems like the government scrubbed down that warning.

  434. arlenearmy says:

    its said that the department of transporation changed the language (disclaimer) on the website.

  435. samiam60 says:

    Hi Arlene, you are just the person I was looking for.
    I am having trouble with my pm and thought you could give me some pointers.

  436. arlenearmy says:

    tellit
    those politicians are running scared. i heard that they are trying to find a way to not show up & do a teleconference.

  437. karmahd says:

    Why Fox with my wiz bang internet cell phone, that is how. Much slower and much smaller print… But now the internet is back up, apparently my dickhead neighbor got the hankering to run his edger over his lawn and cut my cable, oh well, police report will be filed, and he will be questioned LOL, just love to irritate him!!

  438. samiam60 says:

    Hi Karma could also use your help.

  439. m2 says:

    Everyone, Hannity said it again today. When Obama conf. called the Lib bloggers he said he would use “RECONCILIATION” to jam this Healthcare Slavery-Control bill through. Under that, you don’t need the 60 Majority.

    I heard Harry Reid is talking about it in a story on Politico today.

    Tellit says: Foxwood, You know they are going to somehow ram this national healthcare down our throats and up our a$$es

  440. m2 says:

    OK not Reid, Schumer. The same Schumer who started March 08 Bank Run the catalyst for the financial meltdown. The same Schumer who got tax loopholes kept in for Hedge Fund industry in 07 b/c he was the head of the Committee (and Dems controlled Congress), b/c the Hedge Funders fund (ie. Wall Street Fat Cats) fund Dems. Got to love they disgusting nation selling Liberal party folks! Corruptocrats to the CORE!

  441. m2 says:

    August 03, 2009
    Categories: Health Care

    Schumer hints at ‘reconciliation’ for health bill
    Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) sounds like he’s getting ready to play hardball this fall on health care, even if it means forgoing a Finance Committee deal and bypassing a filibuster by using “reconciliation” to push the bill through.

    More from POLITICO’s Carrie Budoff Brown:

    Schumer said the Senate will move ahead with health care reform this year regardless of whether Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) is able to strike a bipartisan deal.
    Baucus has until Sept. 15 to reach an agreement with Republicans — and that is still the goal.
    “But if we don’t, it is not going to stop us from moving forward with health care,” Schumer told reporters Monday. “If the Republicans are not able to produce an agreement (by then), we will have contingencies in place. Health reform is just too important to let this window pass by.”
    Among the options is invoking a procedural maneuver known as reconciliation, which would allow Senate Democrats to pass a bill with a simple majority rather than a 60-vote filibuster-proof threshold.
    Schumer would not say what other contingency plans he had in mind.

  442. m2 says:

    Media Matters is nothing but propaganda.

  443. m2 says:

    I once played a joke on a co-worker. I had only been at the job a couple of weeks, and I pretended to be evasive when I give my name. I eventually had to show my driver’s license to dispell the lingering doubts I created with my juvenile joke.

    Now, there are “truthers” and there are ordinary people who just don’t find themselves amused. Obama has been proven to repeatedly lie about his past, and then, he comes along and displays a redacted document. And then, has a third party display dubious “pictures” of it in response to very valid criticism.

    Imagine if you applied for a job, and when they asked for your ID, you refused and stated that all your information was posted to X website, and that’s good enough. You would NOT be hired. The interviewer and anyone else involved would NOT be amused. But suppose they persisted. So, you brought them printed copies of the website.

    Instead of being forthright and attempting to recover some credibility, Obama or his people have lied. The excusess for not showing his original fit the pattern of evasion. Obama’s legal team never argued in court that he was proven to be qualified. They argued that nobody has standing to challenge ‘his imperial majesty’.

    And, in the largest fit of groupthink I’ve ever seen displayed, all the media rallies around “factcheck.org”, accepting them as messengers direct from God. NBC reporters seek to scoop ABC reporters, and don’t accept what ABC says as being the definitive word on truth… But not a soul in the media will question Factcheck.org’s website. What? Why the hell not? Sometime back, a blogger decided to find out who the people are who were responsible for the COLB release at factcheck.org. Turns out they are just out of college, not journalists, not investigators, and at least one of the two is a political science major. Now that’s real assuring.

    The media whines and screams that Drudge isn’t a journalist, doesn’t understand research and fact finding. But none could bring themselves to look a second time at a couple of political activist types at a website.

    Which brings us back to right where we are. People of normal intelligence would be REQUIRED to doubt what’s been presented, unless they were motivated to accept it. That’s part of the skepticism that stops us from falling for scams, that warns us when the salesman is flaky, that keeps us from being totally gullible fools.

    To add fuel to the fire, ONE PAPER IN HAWAII ran a story that said Fukino verified Obama’s birth. They printed the public statement, which did not say anything even remotely like that, but the meme was set. Nobody, anywhere, in the media ever even questioned that CONCLUSION. Not even when they read the statement, that didn’t say what the paper said it said. And, thus, it became instant lore. How many times did the media, members of the media simply recite factcheck.org and Fukino as being absolute proof? Any cursory examination leads you to at least question the conclusions drawn, and 2 seconds of thought makes you laugh at the absurdity.

    Post election, Obama’s website that had his campaign themes and promises suddenly “expired” almost all of them. The promises about lobbyists, and other stuff vanished and were summarily ignored in real life.

    Now, Fukino comes along and makes a statement you have to parse very carefully, and when faced with facts, is doubtful. It’s just a long pattern of evasion.

    The truth COULD BE what Obama says it is. His behavior, and that of a lot of people with an agenda, provides a mountain of evidence that it isn’t. I don’t know what to believe… But I know I will NOT believe Obama about anything. The level of proof required for me to believe a word he says, or a document he produces, or anything, is going to be extradordinarily high, and it’s his own behavior and his own absolutely terrible disrespect for the people, the nation, and truth that is to blame.

    Instead, I see these people who absolutely refuse to question a single extremely questionable thing calling me “nuts”. If that’s nuts, then please certify me.

  444. samhenry says:

    Hi all – M2 – Media Matters is DANGEROUS propaganda. And i think they track certain sites.

  445. samhenry says:

    they are going out after Lou Dobbs. Tune in tonight. They’ve got ads running against him and everything.

  446. samhenry says:

    Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

  447. m2 says:

    samhenry… MediaMatters is about as fringe left thug arm of the Clintons. Notice how they beat up any MSM journalist during the campaign, and praised FOX NEWS! HA HA HA HA.

    I think that source for any quantifiable information is about as ghetto and scary as those Christian Zealots who predict the end of the world every day. Good to know CNN approves of lunatics.

    lol.

    If the Certification of Birth is fake, it’s no different then the print-out obtained by Annenburg and Kos that is supposed to stand for Obama’s legitimacy.

    Nevermind the BC.
    The man is a lie, and that is why his integrity is at stake. This is the most sinister Presidency in all of our history.

  448. samhenry says:

    But HOW does Media Matters track ….

  449. samhenry says:

    Sorry guys – just looked at the clock and will have to jump ship. Later

  450. m2 says:

    later… I’m about to eat dinner myself.

  451. samiam60 says:

    The White House is trying to back peddle on the Middle Class Tax that is coming. Of course those of us with Common Sense know better.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/03/obama.economy/index.html

  452. m2 says:

    sam,

    This is where we are at.
    Our economy is so disembowled by team Obama, the Chi-Comms don’t even want to loan us money. It was imperative Geithner and crew make good on our goods by publically decrying a future of taxes for Obama’s sour management of this nation. Once that was airing out in the Public, it was meant to feed the Chinese a little reassurance.

    This administration is the most un-transparent, stonewalling, power-seething, suppressive, oppressive administration ever, and best yet- they don’t even care that they are growing so hated. Because once they get their leftist shell in place, there’s no turning back.

  453. m2 says:

    publically enforcing a future of taxes…

    What I wonder is, how can liberals honestly support this corruption? They’re so corrupt they can’t even get all of their party to vote for their bills. They have to suppress free speech on Republican mailers which would discuss facts of their Healthcare takeover.

    They’re so corrupt, Obama has lied about his entire life, incl. where he met his wife.

    They’re so corrupt, all that matters is their backroom deals with their corrupt buddies. They’re so dishonest, disingenuous, uncaring, seething with elitist hatred for their constituents, I’d be friggin embarresssed to support this, to support the administration that is going to take a dump on the Constitution in order to line their pockets and purposefully create chaos and unemployment and misery to gain more power as ultimate thug-nanny state. Who would support people who take away liberty, freedom, choice?

    The new brown shirts?

    Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., sponsored an amendment requiring members of Congress to forgo their current health coverage and enroll in any government plan they pass to compete with private insurers. “Let’s demonstrate leadership and confidence in the system,” Coburn said before his amendment squeaked through the Senate Health Committee. A similar measure was defeated in the House. A spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi demurred when asked if she would sign up for a government-run plan.

  454. samhenry says:

    Fed workers should be required to live under the new gov-run plan. THAT would save us some money!

  455. m2 says:

    That’s true, SH.

    also, do you notice this search and destroy tactic by liberals to malign and fire Lou Dobbs. Isn’t it interesting. 1 man in MSM actually questions Annenburg/Kos evidence (the only “jpg”) semblence of a past that we have of Obama (meanwhile he lies about innocuous things about where he works, where he met his wife, MSM never talks about him campaigning for a genocidist Odinga – his cousin)… and instead, Liberals are so robot programmed to group think, they demonize anyone that dares to hinder their agenda. It’s like all Leftist movements in History. This is how the Mafia took control of Sicily and made people fear their brazen arm of Big Brother.

    It’s so sad and pathetic to see people with such hatred for anything that doesn’t fit their template. They will latch onto any kook leftist propaganda think-tank who in the past praised their satan, Fox News… in order to destroy a person. The liberals make the politics of personal destruction a sport.

    Well this isn’t going to go away, ppl. Sorry, but when you have someone that is a compulsive liar, who’s broken every campaign promise, and in fact, destroyed the economy further all to suit his political paybacks and the elites of his party… people are not going to forget that everything is a lie. And that he has not been transparent in any area of his life. It’s only 8 months in now and we have over 3 years… and they think it’s bad now? Kos boo-hooing because he got his communist feelings hurt? Well as more and more people get laid off, as their taxes take effect, as people see the Congress with approval in the 30’s, maybe 20’s… they are going to want answers.

    They are going to want to know why the Obama Deception exists.

    They tried to tell us Healthcare would save money, then the CBO said that it would be so expensive they weren’t allowed to past forecast a decade out, b/c the people would revolt.

    Then they said the Healthcare would be paid for by taxing those evil disgusting putrid filthy horrid “rich” people. Those assholes that are entrepreneurs and give this country jobs.

    Then the CBO said THAT wouldn’t pay for this Slave to the State bill.

    Then they said it was the Republican’s fault. Until it leaked out the Democrat party as a whole was fractured. (Because they don’t need 1 Republican to vote yay.)

    Then they said the Insurance companies are killing our system, and they are immoral… yet when Pelosi was reminded the Insurance industry was invited to the table to cut a deal early on and was completely in favor (ie. siding with this for profit), Pelosi denied it.

    Yet they won’t let a Republican committee snail mail a letter with actual facts to their constituents.

    Hmmmm…
    Someone said on Facebook today Obama is the fastest falling approval rating of any president in history. There are now more ppl on there complaining about Obamacare and there are “crickets” from those who were pretty Obama-loving vocal before the election.

    We have an anonymous artist in L.A. plastering posters of Obama/Socialism in full Joker-makeup. This public is getting fed up. And little libbies that don’t want their feelings hurt so they try to demonize anyone who dispels journalistic integrity and truth are in for a rough ride from here on out, I think. Their playbook is all to obvious, and it’s getting tired. Too tired to explain every inconsistency with Obama.

  456. samhenry says:

    Media Matters quoted a NYT article by Rich that said White Fears are driving this and gave a history of white fears. I said that, no, the Prez did this all on his own. He had lots of Independent support that he lost in his handling of the Gates affair. He proved he was Gates’ President, not mine.

  457. samhenry says:

    I’m going to watch Lou and will be back but don’t know what time because I have to go to my big HATE – not Obama but the grocery store – schleping, bagging, schleping, putting away – OY. So much for a poor ole dawg to do – especially one so loosened up from the spa today – boy did I spend my unemployment money big time. Tuna, tuna, tuna, and tuna for days….to make up for it. But oh, it was so necessary. Put spa coverage into the health bill and I will lay down and die for it.

  458. m2 says:

    Yes, SH.. when all else fails the last page of playbook is to often call someone a racist for doubting the agenda of the Democrats.

    If they go that route, SH… people who are independent like you will see through it, and I think it will add more fuel to the fire of Obama’s stonewalled life.

    People are not going to be told that it is racist to want to know something of his past, anything. This will be a Dan Rather-undoing to their campaign, b/c it doesn’t make any sense to me.

    what does make sense, is the man ran as a Fiscal Conservative and he is a Union enforcing Community Organizing ACORN radical Marxist. People know THIS now.

    So that little “Racial” play is going to blow up in their faces. It won’t work like they’ve tried to make it work 5x before. People know what Obama is about now. He can’t hide.

  459. m2 says:

    Sounds like a good day!
    I also HATE grocery shopping.

    Really really hate it.

    TTYL!

  460. m2 says:

    Michelle Malkin! Tearing up the media circuit! Go girl go!!

  461. m2 says:

    whoops, this link works friends and not the previous. 🙂

  462. arlenearmy says:

    Oreilly is talking bull crap again. He’s pissing me off again.

  463. arlenearmy says:

    Oreilly said that he dont care where Obama was born. That bull! There’s a lot of folks care where he was born.

    Oreily dont know that the hell he’s talking about. Oreilly got to go.

  464. arlenearmy says:

    What is Oreily’s problem. If he keeps this up, I may have to ban him from our TV.

  465. samiam60 says:

    How do I see Obama’s first 200 DAZE:

    OK, so the birth certificate thing seems to ruffle some feathers lately. Ahcehmmm, perhaps the easiest way to end this nightmare would be for President Obama to come clean and produce his long form birth certificate. Either one will do, Kenya, or Hawaii. Lets just get this all behind us now and get used to saying, President Biden.

    As far as the Health Care reform bill goes, well lets just say the American People are far too smart to fall for this one. Now that Congress is on Vacation I am sure they will get an earful at the Town Hall Meeting’s they attend. Oh, seems they already are.

    Cap and Trade seems to have got pushed through before anyone really knew what was going to be hitting us on that one. When the utility bills start coming in I am sure we will be hearing the words impeachment frequently.

    Cash for Clunkers is off to a fine Government Red Tape start. Imagine how well our Government could handle Health Care? Maybe as well as they have handled Social Security, or Welfare, or Medicare? Ya just gotta wonder what people are thinking sometimes. Don’t Ya?

    Oh and what ever happened to Al Gore? You know the Global Warming thing? It did lead to the Cap and Trade deal and lots of money for Gore and other politicians. By the way, just where is the man lately?

    How about we just might have to tax the middle class. Well anyone with a lick of common sense knew this would be coming soon. You just can’t spend all of China’s money with out making a payment or two. Shucks there just aren’t enough Rich People in America to tax so I guess the Middle Class will have to pick up the tab on the Stimulus that created all those shovel ready jobs.
    Or did it? What is the unemployment rate today?
    Hold on the White House just announced that they will not Tax the Middle Class. Contrary to what Giether has said. So, who should we believe? We already know its coming so what they say today will be different tomorrow. Its called Back Peddling!

    Well President Obama you did promise us Change. It’s just that I thought you were going to really keep all those Campaign Promises you broke in your first 200 days. This is NOT the Change we were expecting Sir.

    You might also want to re-consider ever starting a Civilian Security Force in this Country. Just because Hitler got to do it don’t mean were going to let you even try it.

    PS, I will never become a Socialist so you are going to find that “WE THE PEOPLE” are very much alive and well in the United States of America! I like many others today are very sorry that we Voted for You! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

  466. m2 says:

    I think his guests provided good response. It’s about credibility.

  467. m2 says:

    The Republicans actually aren’t doing anything in Congress. Wussies… O’Reilly keeps saying that they should, but newsflash O’Reilly. THEY’RE NOT…

    lol…

    and it would be so easy. There is such a wealth of Policy to criticize.

  468. m2 says:

    O’Reilly also said there was no way Obama was a Socialist last summer/fall. And b/c he plays nice, he was granted an interview with Our Dear Leader.

    Now he knows Our Dear Leader is a Socialist… Ha ha ha ha ha…

  469. samiam60 says:

    Is O’Reilly like blind to what our Demander in Chief is doing?

  470. samiam60 says:

    Maybe O’Reilly just is afraid of having the tax problems like Rush has. Ya know, Obama can send in his Chicago boys and ruff Bill up.

  471. m2 says:

    O’Reilly is still playing by the old rules of the game, not the updated radical-upped ante of Dear Leader’s party. O’Reilly didn’t even think he was a Socialist last year when he said “spread the wealth around”.. he made up excuses.

    Well since then, we’ve seen O’Reilly pop a few forehead veins due to Obamism Socialist takeover…

  472. ohiobelle says:

    Hello!!!!

    I need some help with something we’ve been fighting. I will be posting a link in just a few minutes… It will only take a minute to really help me out. I’ll be back in a few.

  473. m2 says:

    well sam, O’Reilly has always been behind the curve partially because he likes to maintain his image of Non-Partisan. But in the end, he comes around.

    Hey Belle.

    Ok, sam, this is SOOOO GROOSSS, but SOOOO FUNNY!!
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such shocking public display of body ‘uh’ stuff and from a celebrity golfer too. Oh lawrd!!

    http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=591cf0cb-312b-44fb-ac44-d68cd88d1879

  474. arlenearmy says:

    SamI
    I see Obama 1st 200 daze as a failure. To some folks its a disappointment when they heard Obama’s true feelings on the Skippy Gates matter.

    A lot of his supporter (who I know) knew that he would be a failure. With all this mess going on w/Obama I ask his supporters how could this had happened. They say: “well, he’s inexperienced & handling the country is well over his head”. I then ask, why did you vote for him. They respond that they just wanted to give a black man a chance to get in the White House”.

  475. m2 says:

    yeah Arlene, it’s sad, but some of it isn’t even the voters fault. It’s the power-brokers behind Obama and with him, the Democrat party, and the media that let this country down.

    The best we can do now is expose their tactics and force them to be honest to us by exposure. If the power of the people is not behind them, they will still try to pass their America-killing legislation, but we have to keep going. There’s no other choice.

  476. samiam60 says:

    Michelle Malkin is like sooooo hot 🙂

  477. m2 says:

    She’s such a quick thinker! She totally shuts them down… we need her in congress.

  478. samiam60 says:

    M2 that video was too much. Tiger had him a problem in that, that one sounded wet. lol

  479. samiam60 says:

    M2 Sarah Palin needs to recruit Michelle for her campaign.

  480. m2 says:

    omg, this description made me cry-laugh. I need a good laugh in these days and times.

    CBS is broken-hearted, swearing Tiger wasn’t the one who farted.

    Moonves’ minions have finally responded to FartGate ’09, telling TMZ Tiger Woods wasn’t gassy on 18 at the Buick Open — and the obvious flatulent sound came from somebody else.

    But CBS didn’t crack this caper — refusing to say who cut the cheese.

    The mystery lingers…

  481. m2 says:

    I think VF would feel good that even if we’re off subject we’re covering a worthy topic like Tiger. Her and my favorite golfer.

  482. m2 says:

    The Great Irony Of Health Reform: Middle Class, Not Rich, Get Shaft

    Investors Business Daily Editorials | August 3, 2009 | JEFFREY H, ANDERSON

    That’s the great irony of President Obama’s ambitious health care agenda: His administration, which seems to feel little empathy for the rich, is paving the way to a two-tiered system in which only the very rich would have a choice.

    Under ObamaCare, the rich would continue to get the care they want — whether here or abroad — by paying for it out of their own pockets. The rest of us would stand in line and wait for rationed care.

    Most Americans want consumer freedom. They want to be able to shop for health care value — for the best care, at the best prices. They’d like to have a lot more freedom to shop for such value than they currently have.

    That’s why Democrats are couching their proposed expansion of government-run health care in the language of competition and choice.

    Listen to the president as he pitches the centerpiece of that agenda — a “public option,” a form of Medicare for all. He says it’s merely a way to give Americans another choice: People can buy private health insurance, just like now, or they can instead choose the government option.

    But millions of middle-class Americans who are currently happy with their employer-provided insurance would soon find that the choice isn’t theirs to make.

  483. m2 says:

    blah. Nothing he says is true, and the media’s job is to suppress and debunk the truth.

    all we have left is … the people.

  484. samiam60 says:

    That was Obama the Candidate

  485. samiam60 says:

    Obama the President/Dictator

  486. samiam60 says:

    “WE THE PEOPLE”

  487. samiam60 says:

    REVOLUTION IS BREWING

  488. m2 says:

    good one, that song never disappoints. And yes, Americans know we are born free and no false god can take it away from us.

  489. m2 says:

    secular liberals think they don’t have need for god or religious order, but they just replaced it with almighty central bureaucracy (if they control it) and environmentalism.

    See everyone is inherently religious. Everyone.

  490. ohiobelle says:

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  491. samiam60 says:

    Federal Tax Revenues are plummeting!!!!!!!
    Federal Tax revenues are estimated to drop 18% this year do to the Recession. This is the biggest drop since the Great Depression:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-ENTERPRISE-Federal-tax-apf-2967547650.html?x=0

  492. samiam60 says:

    Ohio I am on it girl.

  493. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio,
    I will call the following politicians on tomorrow:

    MaryJo Kilroy:
    Phone: (202) 225-2015
    Fax: (202) 225-3529

    Congressman Patrick J. Tiberi
    http://tiberi.house.gov/
    (202) 225-5355
    Fax: (202) 226-4523

  494. samhenry says:

    Hey guys – that Tiger Woods thing was a set up phart. It sounded like one of those pillows you squeeze. Nah – Tiger – gas – only at Esso/Exxon.

  495. m2 says:

    bwha ha ha ha … back in 2005 Obama on a delegation was detained by the Russian’s probably because he/passport popped up on Interpol… lol

    The specifics of the delay
    When the US delegation attempted to board their plane, local Russian border officials stepped in and demanded to search the American aircraft before takeoff. International law, however, protects the US military plane from searches, which lead to a stand-off between customs officials and the group.

    http://www.bellona.org/english_import_area/international/russia/nuke_industry/co-operation/39511

  496. m2 says:

    During the August recess of 2005, Lugar and freshman Senator Barack Obama visited Russia, Azerbaijan, and Ukraine to inspect nuclear facilities there.[8] He was detained for three hours at an airport in the city of Perm, near the Ural Mountains, where they were scheduled to depart for a meeting with the President and the Speaker of the House of Ukraine. He was released after a brief dialogue between U.S. and Russian officials, and the Russians later apologized for this incident.

  497. m2 says:

    Belle, I emailed the first lady, but the guys website is down?

  498. ohiobelle says:

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    From above:

    Please help me save this dealership!!! Please contact these links and tell them to save Bobdanielscars.com!!! This means EVERYTHING to me!!

    Mary Jo Kilroy is http://www.kilroy.house.gov

    Pat Tiberi is http://www.tiberi.house.gov

    THANK YOU!!!!

  499. samhenry says:

    The bottom line on health care reform is this: Social security and Medicare and Medicaid are nearly out of money. A lot of the reason is mismanagement. So do we really want to put the government in charge of more people and more money? I think not.

  500. LisaInTX says:

    President Obama and key leaders in Congress are threatening to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act — forcing same-sex marriage laws in Massachusetts and Connecticut on the whole country!

    Please take a moment to send an e-mail telling Congress: Don’t Mess With DOMA!

    http://www.twomillionformarriage.com/siteapps/advocacy/ActionItem.aspx?c=mkLRJ5MQKtH&b=5281187&aid=11845

  501. m2 says:

    Hold up kids.

    How old is Baracko today?

    because that russian article I posted said he was “41” in 2005.

    The 41-year old Obama, having won one of Illinois’ two Senatorial seats in 2005, is seen by many on Capitol Hill as heir-apparent to many of the non-proliferation concerns spearheaded by Lugar.

    He should be 48 today huh.
    So was he 44 back then or 41.

    WHAT THE ?

  502. m2 says:

    Oh nevermind, I must be tired. Was that article from 2005, I’m so confused?

  503. m2 says:

    okay so that article was dated 8/29/2005. And they said he was 41.

  504. m2 says:

    Great – so they are assaulting everything at once, we have a President who has like 2 BC. And has 3 potential ages 44/45 or 48 (like he supposedly turned today)

    F This People F THIS!

  505. LisaInTX says:

    The link above is a call to action on a local level! Attend the town hall meetings—pack the houses with COMMON SENSE! Let our voices be heard LOUD and CLEAR!

  506. m2 says:

    Why won’t the media do their jobs.

    Why won’t Congress stop being assholes.

    SH, of course you are right.
    Lisa, what more can I expect. They have to do it all at once in order to create a sh*tstorm.

  507. LisaInTX says:

    Hi M2 and Samh
    Yeah…they are sure throwing this crap at us. Like Beck said…we need to focus on a few things, learn all we can about them, and bring that info to the table.
    There is just too much to handle and track and one of the reasons I LOVE this BLOG. We all are zeroing in on so many things and bring that info here so we can discuss them.

  508. m2 says:

    He’s got 4 or 5 different names.

    2 or 3 different ages.

    WT – Ef?

  509. m2 says:

    Seriously though Lisa, look at the Bellona story link I posted. That is news media not a blog, saying he was 41 in ’05.

    This man is a LIE

  510. LisaInTX says:

    O’Reilly ison my shit list!!! He now is referring to those that question the birth certificate and the fact that none of the other documents were released as “Obama Haters”!!! How dare he!!! What is with him??? When Lou Dobbs of CNN questions the FACTS and O’Reilly reduces the truth of the matter as though we should not question it in a condescending smirk!! :-/
    I don’t hate Obama, but I do hate his policies and I sure HATE being LIED TOO and Decieved!!

  511. m2 says:

    Lou Dobbs ain’t lettin up either. I saw a story today that says he is feared and respected at CNN no matter how much they wish he’d shut up

  512. m2 says:

    O’Reilly was on my shitlist a LOT last summer for defending him, and saying he wasn’t a Socialist even when the Joe the Plumber b-roll came out.

    remember that?

    O’Reilly does that sometimes because he likes to appear non-partisan. I think he is, too.

  513. LisaInTX says:

    The articial states 08/29/2005
    And that he was 41 years old….
    subtract them and the date of birth is 1964

    Isn’t he claiming the year 1961 as the year he was born???? LMAO………………AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    You ought to forward this to Beck!!! Or Lou Dobbs or Chuck Norris….hahahhaaaaa

  514. m2 says:

    Yes and his little Passport boondoggle!

    This man has so many lies to his past I don’t think he knows what he’s lied about, that’s the trouble with lies…

    they’ll BITE YOU IN THE END.

  515. m2 says:

    I do remember him suddenly gaining some “grey” in his hair coming back from his HA.

    BTW.. the HA thing last year was pretty pertinent for this reason:

    Daily Kos was the first to post a COLB, not the obama Fight the Smears site. 6/12/08.

    Birthers try to debunk the COLB stating there is not a seal or signature.

    Obama travels to Hawaii Aug. 8

    Aug. 21 Fact Check has access to a COLB, with seal and signature.

  516. LisaInTX says:

    Good for LOU!!!!!!!!!
    Hell yeah…..this is not a subject that should be dropped no matter what the brainwashed masses want.
    This issue and the non-release of the other documents smell like yesterdays diapers!!!
    Obama is a liar and is hiding those documents and needs to be called out for it!!

  517. m2 says:

    I remember Rush commented on the new grey. Rush just laughed it off as Dems trying to make him appear more “wise” and “ready to be POTUS”…

    But it’s probably because they were trying to make him look 47 and not 44?

  518. m2 says:

    HEY GUYS!!! WONDER WHAT WAS UP WITH O’REILLY TONIGHT? CHECK THIS OUT!

  519. LisaInTX says:

    You are so right!!! Lies ALWAYS come back to haunt you when you least expect them too…..Here is hoping that a bunch ALL at once are dumped on his little acting gig as communist in chief and that it ends with his impeachment.

  520. LisaInTX says:

    The link didn’t post?? I saw him tonight and neither ME or my husband were happy with his show tonight!!!

  521. m2 says:

    here’s what I’m reading:

    1) Maybe Fox and others know that the issue has more to do with the adoption by Soetero and his passport, and college application submission as a foreign student. The Indonesian school record stating he is Indonesian is FACT and POWERFUL yet we do not blast it throughout the internet for more discussion on it! 2) Fox and others may want to stay clear of the attacks by the Whitehouse and MSM who want to margnalize the story and cut the messsage by destroying the messenger. In other words, destroy the ever growing viewership of Fox News. O’Reilly has to continue his populist stance so that independents hear the merits.

    I’ll put it to you this way: Don’t you think Hannity would have the balls to promote this story? He neither endorses it nor denies it. Even O’Reilly says he believes in Dobbs’ freedom of speech.

  522. m2 says:

    The link did post… I think.

    O’Reilly and Dobbs are right.

    We do need the Republicans to start coming out against this bullshit. We need a more public voice.

    And Dobbs is right. It should never have been allowed that the President’s BC be shown up on a Far Left Fringe Kook site (first) and then his OWN Website.

    And that’s “it”.

    They should show respect for this office and gone by protocol through Major Media Outlets or something more credible than KOS for gawd’s sake. It’s absolutely asinine.

  523. m2 says:

    Other people are talking about O’Reilly cozying up with Dear Leader last summer…

    Just like I remember.
    He doesn’t play by the new rules of the game. One time he said he was surprised by Obama’s disingenuousness on something.

    When most of us saw it coming a mile out. From the get-go, Bill was denying that he could be a Socialist. Or that *gasp* he could purposefully ruin the country for his own self-serving grandiose power.

  524. LisaInTX says:

    I see the link and just got back from there. Hmmmm….so corporate politics is afoot at Fox news? Interesting….
    I agree, the office of the president SHOULD be respected. I recently have a problem though as I do not believe that the man that sits there right now, gained that office LEGALLY or honestly.

    Perhaps I should just go back to my little world of make believe America….and let the chips fall as they may???

  525. m2 says:

    You took the red pill! No turning back.

    I think this dude is 45 today. Btw.

    Ha ha ha ha!!!

  526. m2 says:

    so many lies… a veritable SEA OF LIES!

  527. LisaInTX says:

    He does not plan to leave that office OBVIOUSLY…..who would have thought that huh? lol
    Dictators usually have to be overthrown to remove them from power…..:-/

  528. m2 says:

    Ooooh Sarah Palin is also 45. They always seemed somewhat similar… lol

  529. LisaInTX says:

    Beck show was GREAT today1! He was talking about the ILLEGAL: CZARS of Obamaland….

    The judge was there and he was awesome!!!!

  530. m2 says:

    Similar in their personal appeal that is.

  531. m2 says:

    The Judge is awesome.

    I missed Glenn today. His show is so amazing, full of so much factual research and information.

  532. m2 says:

    Well, looks like I have to turn in. Got to get up early tomorrow. Take care, have a good night!

  533. LisaInTX says:

    Yeah….the camera does LIKE them both. :-}
    That is one thing about Obama….he has a gift of gab but only as long as his teleprompter does break down…hahhaha
    Sarah can talk without one….too bad Obama does not have the intelligence to do that! :-}

  534. LisaInTX says:

    g-night M2…have a good rest and see ya tomorrow

  535. m2 says:

    nOpe. He has a rough-go without TOTUS.

    He doesn’t look 48 to me either.
    Though when you have a parent from another Continent and have been adopted, re-adopted, 4 different names, a citizen here, in Indonesia, a Muslim (in order to attend school in Indonesia), a “Christian” – a Marxist, a fiscal Conservative, a Black Liberation Theologist, blah blah blah… I suppose you might get a little thing like what your actual birth year was …mixed up, eh?

    Night!!

  536. samhenry says:

    Good grief but those two left a lot of reading to do. Well, better make up some Ovaltine, put on my rabbit slippers and get my glasses cleaned up.

  537. arlenearmy says:

    Folks,
    the net is HOT tonite on that Obama birth certificate stuff. Youtube is dragging kinda slow, as too many folks are on it tonite. I must had received over 40 emails alerts on the BC stuff.

  538. samhenry says:

    The bottom line is this. If health care is adopted and cash for clunkers continues; if there are tax increases of varying degrees – will there be money left sufficient to purchase chocolate brownies with chocolate frosting? This is the crux of the matter straight up. Don’t let anyone fool you – even Lou Dobs, a force of nature at this point, cannot contend with a nation satisfied on chocolate covered brownies. Who would want to go to war against Islam? Who would want to demonstrate against tax increases? Yes, a nation satisfied in its tastes will not disrupt the order of things just satisfy the political whims of a network or a president.

  539. arlenearmy says:

    When folks start talking about Obama’s kenyan birth certificate at the gas station & at diner, that tells me that the word is out!!!

    Folks are beginning to wonder, just where the hell was this man was born. Many I’ve overheard talking in public at the diner are saying that they think he was born in Kenya.

  540. samhenry says:

    Hi Arlene – I’m still hanging around. Had to let the dogs out – yes I’m the one they are looking for “Who let the Dog Out, etc.”

    I am happy the internet is buzzing with the bc issue. It is at this point a matter of trust. The administration and others are trying to make it a racial issue. Everything today is a racial issue. You go to the movies and when the woman at the ticket counter asks what movie you want to see, you blurt out “Racial Issue” because that is the phrase at the tip of your tongue 24-7.

  541. LisaInTX says:

    When those idiots allow just a committee to pass such restrictive laws, without a congressional vote, it has gone too far. I keep trying to get you folks to wake-up, but I still hear snoring. What do you think of the Apollo Organization run by our old Clinton buddy, John Podesto and his “Center for American Progress?” In case you were asleep

    at 4 in the afternoon, last Wednesday, go to GLENNBECK@FOXNEWS.COM and either

    study or tape his chart and explanation of Apollo. He ties together all the organizations and big players in this White House run ponzi scheme. These are Oboma’s “Brown Shirt” people, but they are just wearing T-shirts…..Ed S

    Sadly I Can’t

    This bill will -NOT -become public knowledge – UNTIL -30 days after it is voted into LAW. !!!!!!!!
    Subject: – Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this LAW without the Senate voting on it at all.

  542. LisaInTX says:

    The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage, http://www.senate.gov// – search by the bill number, SB-2099.

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

  543. LisaInTX says:

    Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, lawful gun owners will become criminals if they do not fully comply.
    It has started. Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
    Even gun shop owners didn’t know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar. To find out about this – go to any government web site and type in HR
    45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information. Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm – any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver’s License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing –
    Each update change of ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 – Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is
    a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. – They would have the right to come inside your house without your permission and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

    If you think this is a joke – go to the web site and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a “termite” approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense – chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

    This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not. If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe.

    http://thomas.loc..gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

  544. LisaInTX says:

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill..xpd?bill=h111-45

    Please.. copy and send this message to EVERYONE you know, whether you support the Constitution of the United States and the 2nd Amendment for the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms, as I do, or favor gun control and a different form of government. The consequences of this legislation cannot be under estimated..

  545. LisaInTX says:

    The above comments are from a friend of mine…..all I can say is WHAT THE FUC-!!!!!!!!!

    Hello revolution!!!!!!!

  546. samhenry says:

    Lisa – I cannot believe this stealth legislation. I will certainly pass this on. And no, I did not read about. it.

  547. samhenry says:

    I have been saying for some time there will be a revolution. You cannot have this many people out of work with their homes in default for there not to be. It may take to the end of their unemployment checks? We may as well send out utility bills directly to China.

  548. LisaInTX says:

    SamH
    IF this admin goes after the guns….holy crap!!! Hail Hitler??? I don’t think so in America….war will come, no doubt!

  549. LisaInTX says:

    NOTE: Once Congress goes on break in mid-August we’ll be upgrading our hardware so we have less downtime once the fall session begins. 7/30/09

    GovTrack.us is currently having some down time. Either the website is undergoing maintenance, or the site was shut down because of an error or high load.

    Please try reloading the page in just a few moments.

    If the problem persists, please bookmark this page and return in a few hours. Thanks for visiting!

  550. LisaInTX says:

    That was the messege I got when I tried to read the HR 45……

  551. LisaInTX says:

    Samh
    Good to talk with you. This stuff is making me NUTS!!!!
    I’m heading to bed…ttyl….and have a great night.

  552. samhenry says:

    Always good to read your add ins and to talk with you.

  553. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!

  554. tellitlikeitis says:

    AP ENTERPRISE: Federal tax revenues plummeting

    By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press Writer – Mon Aug 3, 8:51 pm ET
    WASHINGTON – The recession is starving the government of tax revenue, just as the president and Congress are piling a major expansion of health care and other programs on the nation’s plate and struggling to find money to pay the tab.

    The numbers could hardly be more stark: Tax receipts are on pace to drop 18 percent this year, the biggest single-year decline since the Great Depression, while the federal deficit balloons to a record $1.8 trillion.

    Other figures in an Associated Press analysis underscore the recession’s impact: Individual income tax receipts are down 22 percent from a year ago. Corporate income taxes are down 57 percent. Social Security tax receipts could drop for only the second time since 1940, and Medicare taxes are on pace to drop for only the third time ever.

    The last time the government’s revenues were this bleak, the year was 1932 in the midst of the Depression.

    “Our tax system is already inadequate to support the promises our government has made,” said Eugene Steuerle, a former Treasury Department official in the Reagan administration who is now vice president of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation.

    “This just adds to the problem.”

    While much of Washington is focused on how to pay for new programs such as overhauling health care — at a cost of $1 trillion over the next decade — existing programs are feeling the pinch, too.

    Social Security is in danger of running out of money earlier than the government projected just a few month ago. Highway, mass transit and airport projects are at risk because fuel and industry taxes are declining.

    The national debt already exceeds $11 trillion. And bills just completed by the House would boost domestic agencies’ spending by 11 percent in 2010 and military spending by 4 percent.

    For this report, the AP analyzed annual tax receipts dating back to the inception of the federal income tax in 1913. Tax receipts for the 2009 budget year were available through June. They were compared to the same period last year. The budget year runs from October to September, meaning there will be three more months of receipts this year.

    Is there a way out of the financial mess?

    A key factor is the economy’s health. The future of current programs — not to mention the new ones Obama is proposing — will depend largely on how fast the economy recovers from the recession, said William Gale, co-director of the Tax Policy Center.

    “The numbers for 2009 are striking, head-snapping. But what really matters is what happens next,” said Gale, who previously taught economics at UCLA and was an adviser to President George H. W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisers.

    “If it’s just one year, then it’s a remarkable thing, but it’s totally manageable. If the economy doesn’t recover soon, it doesn’t matter what your social, economic and political agenda is. There’s not going to be any revenue to pay for it.”

    A small part of the drop in tax receipts can be attributed to new tax credits for individuals and corporations enacted in February as part of the $787 billion economic stimulus package. The sheer magnitude of the tax decline, however, points to the deep recession that is reducing incomes, wiping out corporate profits and straining government programs.

    Social Security tax receipts are down less than a percentage point from last year, but in May the government had been projecting a slight increase. At the time, the government’s best estimate was that Social Security would start to pay out more money than it receives in taxes in 2016, and that the fund would be depleted in 2037 unless changes are enacted.

    Some experts think the sour economy has made those numbers outdated.

    “You could easily move that number up three or four years, then you’re talking about 2013, and that’s not very far off,” said Kent Smetters, associate professor of insurance and risk management at the University of Pennsylvania.

    The government’s projections included best- and worst-case scenarios. Under the worst, Social Security would start to pay out more money than it received in taxes in 2013, and the fund would be depleted in 2029.

    The fund’s trustees are still confident the solvency dates are within the range of the worst-case scenario, said Jason Fichtner, the Social Security Administration’s acting deputy commissioner.

    “We’re not outside our boundaries yet,” Fichtner said. “As the recovery comes, we’ll see how that plays out.”

    The recession’s toll on Social Security makes it even more urgent for Congress to address the fund’s long-term solvency, said Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis., chairman of the Senate Aging Committee.

    “Over the past year, millions of older Americans have watched their retirement savings crumble, making the guaranteed income of Social Security more important than ever,” Kohl said.

    President Barack Obama has said he wants to tackle Social Security next year, after he clears an already crowded agenda that includes overhauling health care, addressing climate change and imposing new regulations on financial companies.

    Medicare tax receipts are also down less than a percentage point for the year, pretty close to government projections. Medicare started paying out more money than it received last year.

    Meanwhile, the recession is taking a toll on fuel and industry excise taxes that pay for highway, mass transit and airport projects. Fuel taxes that support road construction and mass transit projects are on pace to fall for the second straight year. Receipts from taxes on jet fuel and airline tickets are also dropping, meaning Congress will have to borrow more money to fund airport projects and the Federal Aviation Administration.

    Last week, Congress voted to spend $7 billion to replenish the highway fund, which would otherwise run out of money in August. Congress spent $8 billion to replenish the fund last year.

    Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., chairman of the House subcommittee that oversees fuel taxes, is working on a package to make the fund more self-sufficient. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which doesn’t back many tax increases, supports increasing the federal gasoline tax, currently 18.4 cents per gallon.

    Neal said he hasn’t endorsed a specific plan. But, he added, “You can’t keep going back to the general fund.”

  555. tellitlikeitis says:

    Geithner Warns Regulators to Back Reform Plan
    Published: Tuesday, 4 Aug 2009 | 3:54 AM ET

    U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner issued a stern warning punctuated with expletives to U.S. regulators to end turf battles and show support for President Barack Obama’s plan to overhaul financial regulation, a person familiar with the situation said on Monday.

    AP
    Timothy Geithner
    ——————————————————————————–

    At a tense, hour-long meeting on Friday, Geithner told Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Mary Schapiro and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp Chairman Sheila Bair to end recent public criticism of the plan and stop airing concerns over their potential loss of authority.

    The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the meeting, said that Geithner vented frustration over the plan’s slow progress and told regulators that “enough is enough”.

    Citing people familiar with the meeting, the newspaper also said that the Treasury Secretary used obscenities and took an aggressive stance in his dressing down of the regulators.

    A Treasury Department spokesman, Andrew Williams, said Geithner was resolute in his message.

    “We planned this meeting as a venue to deliver a tough message to regulators that we should work together to get reform done – and focus less on protecting turf.” Williams said.

    Spokespersons for the Fed, the SEC and the FDIC did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

    Obama in June unveiled a financial regulatory overhaul, sometimes called the biggest since the 1930s. Among other things, the plan would give the Fed added powers, award the government more power to break up troubled companies, and create a new agency to oversee consumer finance.

    regulators wary that any redistribution of power would reduce their own.

    Even though the regulators are viewed as independent of the White House, the Journal said Geithner told attendees that the administration and Congress set policy.

    It also said the Treasury Secretary, without singling out officials, raised concerns about regulators who have questioned the wisdom of giving the Fed more power.

    Schapiro and Bair have argued that more authority should be shared among a council of regulators.

  556. m2 says:

    Whoops today is August 4th.
    So Obama is 45 today.

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  557. tellitlikeitis says:

    Democrats’ break looking like a bad trip

    Angry protesters shouted down Democrats at public events from Texas to Pennsylvania

    over the weekend, leaving the party only one real hope for getting its message out over recess: a backlash.

    In Austin, Texas, Rep. Lloyd Doggett was drowned out by a group of noisy, sign-waving demonstrators who shouted, “Just say no” as he tried to talk about health care reform.

    In an e-mail to POLITICO Monday, Doggett called the group a “mob, sent by the local Republican and Libertarian parties” that “came not just to be heard but to deny others the right to be heard.”

    In Morrisville, Pa., Rep. Patrick Murphy was forced to scrap plans for a one-on-one meet-the-congressman session when people in the crowd started shouting. Murphy switched to a town hall format mid-event and even then had to ask the audience at times to “be respectful.”

    And at a health care event in Philadelphia, Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius were repeatedly interrupted by booing and heckling. “We can shout at one another, or we can leave the stage,” Sebelius said at one point. “It’s up to you.”

    For Democrats, that’s precisely the problem: Their ability to make their case on health care at public events during the August recess is mostly in the hands of the people who turn out for the events. And if those people want to be disruptive — especially en masse — there’s not much the Democrats can do about it.

    “Town halls have become town hells,” said Mark McKinnon, a former adviser to President George W. Bush. “Special interests and opponents have figured out how easy it is to disrupt town halls and get their own message out. The days of the truly free-form town halls may be over.”

    Democratic leaders aren’t quite ready to say that yet. Doug Thornell, a spokesman for Assistant to the Speaker Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), said House leaders are urging their members to continue holding public sessions, even if it means they’ll be shouted down and have it all replayed on YouTube.

    “We have encouraged our members to use everything in their arsenal to communicate with their constituents,” said Thornell. “They know what works best in their districts. More than anything, they have to stay on the offense and not get distracted by stupid Republican gimmicks.”

    The Republicans aren’t exactly apologetic.

    “As some members of Speaker Pelosi’s party are already learning, it’s hard to heed her orders to ‘go on offense’ when you’re busy defending such unpopular policies,” said Paul Lindsay, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee.

  558. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning M2!! Where is VF? On Vacation?

  559. m2 says:

    Morning. It is raining CATS AND DOGS out today. I am soaked!!

  560. tellitlikeitis says:

    GOP Gaining Traction Against Obama

    By Kenneth T. Walsh Kenneth T. Walsh – Thu Jul 30, 5:43 pm ET
    The Republican Party seems to be gaining some traction in attacking President Obama’s agenda and pulling him down a peg or two in public esteem. [See Photos of the Obamas Behind the Scenes]

    This contrasts with the GOP’s often ineffective and flailing performance during the first phase of Obama’s administration. The lack of a unified message created a sense of conservative drift and confusion. And it didn’t help that the party appeared too closely tethered to voices from the past, such as former Vice President Dick Cheney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and to the abrasive, hard-line ideologues of today, such as radio host Rush Limbaugh. [Read About Obama’s Toughest Opponents]

    But now it looks as if the GOP has gotten its act together, at least in terms of public relations, playing upon public doubts about Obama’s policies. Its new strategy seems to be based not on a compelling alternative to Obama’s agenda but on the fact that many Americans are increasingly nervous about Obama’s big-spending, activist-government policies. And it has also been spurred by the fact that Obama’s ballyhooed $787 billion stimulus package has failed to end the recession or stop unemployment’s upward spiral. The national jobless rate is expected to rise to 10 or 11 percent later this year and is already there in politically pivotal states such as Michigan and Ohio.

    All this has cooled the public’s enthusiasm for both Obama and his policies. The latest Gallup/USA Today poll finds that 55 percent of Americans now approve of Obama’s job performance, down from 61 percent in May. Only 47 percent approve of his handling of the economy while 49 percent disapprove, a deterioration from 55 percent approval and 42 percent disapproval in May. A new Politico/Public Strategies poll found that 54 percent of Americans trust Obama to find the right solutions to America’s problems, while 43 percent have little or no trust in him. That’s down from a 66-to-31 spread in March. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says part of the problem is that Obama is trying to achieve big, challenging goals, such as overhauling healthcare, making him a convenient target for naysayers. “There is an industry in this town that by definition has to be bleak,” Gibbs argues. [Read an Interview with AMA President James Rohack]

    But Republican leaders say their attacks are gradually paying off. Even though their party’s poll numbers remain weak, GOP strategists argue that they are undermining Obama’s popularity and the credibility of Democratic ideas, which they see as a precursor of a Republican comeback. So GOP-ers continue to drive home their points daily. They say that Obama’s policies are failing, that he is using discredited liberal approaches, and that he is digging the economy into an ever deeper ditch with overspending, massive deficits, and a meddlesome federal government. “Not only has the stimulus not worked and the economy not been rescued, [but] the president continues to promote policies that will create more unemployment in America,” House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said in a speech to the House last week. Citing figures he said came from Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, he argued that the Democrats’ health plan, which he called a “government takeover of healthcare,” would cost 5 million more Americans their jobs. [Read About Obama’s 5 Top Foes in Congress]

    Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina recently told a conservative group that if the GOP can stop Obama’s healthcare overhaul, “it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.” And Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele blasted the healthcare plan in a National Press Club speech last week as “too much, too fast, too soon.” Steele’s RNC also launched a new Web commercial that criticizes Obama for pushing “the biggest spending spree in our nation’s history.” And 90 minutes after the president’s prime-time news conference, Steele sent an E-mail solicitation to Republicans that declared, “Barack Obama’s risky experiments must be stopped.”

    Such appeals, and the tough Republican approach, seem to be working, as GOP coffers are bulging. The RNC reported raising $8.9 million and having $23.7 million overall in the bank at the end of June, while the Democratic National Committee raised $6.8 million and had only $13 million total.

    “Obama is treading water on personal attributes, and now you have a real intense disapproval of the president’s policies,” says a senior GOP strategist who advised a presidential candidate last year. “And hundreds of thousands of jobs are being lost each month.” He argues that until Obama shows clear economic results, his slide will intensify–with more than a little nudging from the GOP.

  561. m2 says:

    lol… yeah the GOP is finally sounding like Conservatives (a teensy bit), Rush & friends loved the Waterloo line. DeMint has an AMAZING BOOK out.

    All they had to do was stop marginalizing true Conservatives and stand with us. But they are not doing nearly enough. Ramp it up GOP, your country needs you! And it’s so easy, the Democrats are as corrupt a party as anyones ever seen in this lifetime!

    Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina recently told a conservative group that if the GOP can stop Obama’s healthcare overhaul, “it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.” And Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele blasted the healthcare plan in a National Press Club speech last week as “too much, too fast, too soon.”

  562. m2 says:

    Avoiding the Next Obama

    By L.E. Ikenga
    In times like these, it is tempting to focus only on the issue at hand. But if you do, you do so at your own peril. As I watch what is happening to this great country, I find myself just shaking my head more and more while thinking, Mark Twain was absolutely right: “history does not always repeat itself, but it does often rhyme.”

    My Igbo parents came to this great country from Nigeria. They arrived a few years after Nigeria’s independence from Great Britain. In Nigeria, it was a time of unprecedented cultural and political turmoil, which allowed politicians very much like Barack Obama to continue to seep into Nigeria’s political system. These politicians all promised a change from the past. And unfortunately, they ended up fulfilling their promises. What these politicians ended up changing was the very fabric of the African societies, which they had been taught to see as unsophisticated and inferior.

    I call these men, who appeared all over Africa in the wake of independence, African Colonial politicians (ACP’s). They were the direct offspring of the European Imperialists, imposing radical European leftist political theory on tribal cultures. ACP’s and their unscrupulous followers were able to almost completely destroy many African cultures.

    For the most part, these ACP’s were intellectual frauds, completely unworthy of the honors bestowed upon them. But they sounded and looked good; so the people listened to them. With their fancy Oxbridge degrees, grandiloquent speeches given with perfectly accented “Queen’s English”, finely tailored European suits, and fabled family histories, ACP’s took the masses by storm.

    ACP’s convinced their constituents that they were as dumb as baboons and did not have what it took to make good decisions for themselves and for the future. They made Africans feel embarrassed about their entire histories and conservative values. They persuaded Africans to follow the “European way” of doing things, and assured that this blueprint for progress was one that could not fail.

    The people believed them. And so, over the course of many decades, and by means of the standard instruments of cultural indoctrination that included liberal education, elite professional career paths, and new religious and political paradigms, Africans began to consume ideas and theories that implicitly alienated them from their own roots. Today, many of those Africans and their respective cultures are well on their way to being nothing more than topics for discussion at some freshman anthropology seminar at some elite university.

    Colonialism in Africa ended but the ACP remained. He is now a touchstone in African political culture — and so are his imperialist policies. The ACP will never go away. He dominates all politics, all of the time. His presence is ubiquitous. He is being cloned by the thousands everyday at universities in Africa and in other parts of the world. Marxist mentors rear him in his professional and private life. Thus, he has been taught to see himself as a benevolent Pan-Africanist. Instead, he is an uncontrollable cancer, steadily pushing African cultures to the point of extinction.

    This all happened because African conservatives lost their way, took their cultures for granted, and underestimated the cupidity of their wanton politicians. They failed to make adjustments that would have helped to preserve their necessary values. The challenge for any culture is knowing when and how to make these adjustments, because if you do not, you die.

    Africans allowed themselves to be hoodwinked by smooth-talking elitist charlatans; they are now paying a very dear price for this.

    Politically speaking, most of Africa is now the laughingstock of the world with little to show for all of the progress that was once so intensely promised. In his 1947 essay, Path to Nigerian Freedom, Chief Obafemi Awolowo declared that,

    “… the educated elite in Nigeria were qualified by natural rights to lead their fellow nationals into higher political development.”

    Chief Awolowo, where is that development now?

    It is a very painful thing to know that something that you hold dear will soon cease to exist. It is even more painful to know that you are only one of a small few who can actually see that it is happening. This is what I am faced with. My Igbo heritage, passed down especially by my mother, has become a very precious thing to me, particularly because it is something that will soon cease to exist. I am sure that my great-grandchildren’s children will have to go to some Museum of Natural History to know who I was, and so I continue to fight to make sure that they have something to see.

    All of this is because my ancestors did not make the necessary adjustments. And most importantly, they never saw that there was always a large troupe of African colonial politicians, each impatiently waiting in the wings for the chance to audition for the role of a lifetime. (Obama’s 2004 DNC speech was an audition.)

    The Barack Obamas of the world helped to kill off so many cultures throughout the African continent. He is now here, with his Bacchic attendants, working hard to kill (conservative) American culture. He is killing everything that this country stands for. He is doing it under the guise of altruism. However, there is nothing altruistic about Obama. Instead, what we are witnessing is the greatest comedy of fateful errors that the world has seen in quite some time. The gods must be laughing like crazy.

    The move towards the Euro-style imperialist socialism that has taken over this country has been a long time coming. For decades, oblivious youth have been indoctrinated at American universities to sympathize with far-left values; the entertainment industry is filled with leftist blowhards who wear the mask of intellect; liberals of all stripes have become unselfconscious in mocking (Christian) religious customs, and the juggernaut that is the left-stream media has been sealing the deal for years, helping to make this Republic increasingly vulnerable to demagoguery and despotism.

    During the campaign, there was a reason why Obama’s handlers kept telling him to say, “We are the ones we have been waiting for!” So many are waiting in the wings for their chance to audition. Obama is now the playing the lead role. But new faces will come and take his place when he is done.

    This is why our nation is under siege with “all Obama, all the time”. They want you to focus on him so that you do not see what is coming. As difficult as it may be to believe, Obama is probably not the worst that this far-left faction will use to win future elections. There will be others who will be more “eloquent”, more charismatic, more racially mixed, more (once) oppressed by “the man”…

    In closing, I offer a wish list. If I could go back in time and meet some of my ancestors, here are a few things that I would tell them to watch out for and consider. And to my fellow American Conservatives, here are a few things to help us avoid the next Obama:

    Brand name market academics: the killers of common sense

    I cannot emphasize enough how these types of people continue to destroy cultures throughout the world. I have seen it happen; I am seeing it happen. Most of their ideas are based on book theories and not reality. They cannot relate to everyday people. Bottom line: if someone needs to tell you where they went to school in order to explain why they voted a certain way, change the subject, or better yet, if you can, just walk away.

    Spread your message, especially to the young

    One of the biggest mistakes that many Igbos continue to make is not teaching their kids about their ancestry and culture. In the West especially, some of those kids do not speak the language, understand any of the traditions, nor do they have the desire to visit the land of their forefathers. By default, these children have become Igbos in name only. A person without knowledge of their history and culture is like a tree without roots-a shell of a thing that can be easily blown away. Ironically, irreverence towards one’s culture and history is always part of a tradition that is passed down from one generation to the next. Be the one to put an end to this tradition.

    In praise of patriarchs

    The whole truth, not half of it. The Igbos are a patriarchal people, and I grew up listening to fantastic tales of how my great forefathers lived impeccable lives. I understand why this was necessary but some of those tales just bordered on the absurd. I might as well have been reading the Aeneid. Patriarchs are people, and it is equally important that we learn from their successes AND their failures. Avoiding talk of their failures leads to a loss of trust from those who really want to learn. The reality is that many Igbo patriarchs made crucial mistakes, which allowed the Imperialists to gain access and power; this must be acknowledged. The American Founders achieved tremendous goals. The United States Constitution is the Crown Jewel of Western civilization. The Founders paved the way for liberty and justice for all; this was no small feat. But mistakes were still made, and the legacy of some of those mistakes still haunt us today. Telling the whole truth is what sets people free.

    Intellectual integrity

    The Imperialists let the genie out. It is now up to you to put it back in the bottle. The Igbos allowed many things to be redefined for them by Imperialists who then took these new definitions and ran with them in order to make the Africans feel inferior. One of my favorites is how the Imperialists began calling African medicinal herbalists, “witchdoctors”. (I always crack up when I hear this word!)

    Something similar is starting to happen with the word racism. The far-lefties are now using this word willy-nilly to defame innocent people. Racism, in my opinion, is something very specific: an assault — of any kind — that attacks the humanity of a specific ethnic group. A racist is someone who believes in and sees the good in these attacks. And then there is bigotry; and there are bigots. By thoughtlessly throwing around the word racism we truly dishonor the memory of those who, throughout human history, actually went through the real thing. Imperialists and their liberal offspring, have no real intellectual integrity. They will stoop to any low to get their message across. Do not let these fools tell you what is and what isn’t.

    African Colonial Politicians and Black Liberationist Preachers: Best Friends Forever

    This point is more for future African and American generations. ACP’s and BLP’s go together like peanut butter & jelly. Black Liberation Theology (and all of its strange offshoots) is wreaking havoc in Africa and it will soon do the same here. The pastor and politician work like a tag-team to rob people of their dignity, culture, and political capital. Both teach their congregants/constituents to wear their (imagined) victim status like a badge of honor. By using all sorts of hocus-pocus and mumbo-jumbo techniques, they exact votes, cash, and “AMENS!” from lost and impressionable people. The less of a real history that people have to “cling to” the more they will seek these soothsayer/snake oil sales people out.

    Countries like Nigeria most definitely have what I call a “pastor problem”, and it looks like America is starting to have one too. As many have already figured out, the Obama-Wright relationship was no chance coincidence. Despite the Showtime at the Apollo theatrics in which they engaged the nation during the election, right now, both are laughing all the way to the bank.

    Chukwu duwe anyi (May God be with us).

  563. Foxwood says:

    Morning Tellit, M2,

    Where is everybody?

  564. m2 says:

    Dems Begin Alinsky-in-August Offensive
    By Kyle-Anne Shiver

    The healthcare-takeover plotters in the Democrat war room have charted their Alinsky-in-August offensive.

    And, pray tell, what are the Democrats’ — solely humanitarian — objectives here?

    * Pass another trillion-dollar tax burden upon the backs of unsuspecting American taxpayers.

    * Consolidate another takeover of the private sector. (James Lewis called it a “MediCoup.” I agree.)

    * Buy a bunch of votes for 2010 from ACORN registrants and illegal aliens.

    Selling another mine of fools gold to taxpayers could never be called humanitarian, no matter how one counts his little chickens.

    Their tactics worked with the Crimulus Stimulus, which provides jobs that last a mere week, props up perv-porn “art,” and expensive new potties for little-used national parks, all the while neglecting rotting bridges and states who didn’t vote for the stimulator in chief. But, so far, none of the Democrats’ tactics has worked all that well in convincing a wary public to just trust them to know what’s best for all our healthcare.

    Even Barack, the magic insurance salesman, hasn’t convinced Harry & Louise Q. Citizens to sign on the dotted line.

    Hard to trust an insurance salesman who hasn’t even read the policy, now isn’t it?

    Time to bring out the big guns of Alinsky for the August crush. While Barack, the magic insurance salesman, leaves his own job in the capable hands of Time magazine shills, and spends a month in elitist paradise on Martha’s Vineyard (taking Macho lessons?), his generals, Pelosi, Reid and Waxman, are taking the battle for federal healthcare control to the airwaves and the streets.

    Nancy Pelosi fired the first salvo last Thursday. Standing in her foxhole on the Hill, wagging her little finger like an AK-47, wearing her all-white-good-guy camouflage fatigues, Imperious Nancy threw down her battle gauntlet:

    “It’s almost immoral what they are doing,” Pelosi said to reporters, referring to insurance companies. “Of course they’ve been immoral all along in how they have treated the people that they insure,” she said, adding, “They are the villains. They have been part of the problem in a major way. They are doing everything in their power to stop a public option from happening.”

    Is it any wonder, folks, why Rahm kept Imperious Nancy in a secure San Fran closet during the ’06 elections?

    On Friday, The Hill intercepted a top-secret, Dem communiqué that spelled out the battle plan for the Alinsky-in-August MediCoup offensive, echoing Imperious Nancy’s salvo at the insurance companies, the now-to-be targeted “villain.”

    Alinsky Rule #13:

    Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

    The Democrats’ war strategy is simple and, of course, it’s pure Alinsky. Target the insurance companies and make them out to be reprobate wretches of the most vile, greedy, Simon-Legree sort imaginable. We are sure to be treated to ads, which feature purely hair-raising “robber-baron-rips-off-Harry&Louise” tales of insurance company bad guys.

    And, how on earth, did Democrats decide upon whom to paint the Alinsky bull’s-eye? Oh puh-lease. Public polling, of course. That’s how the Democrats decide everything, don’t you know.

    When 83% of Americans are quite happy with the healthcare they have, then convincing them to let go of it for the obviously-fools-gold “public option” is an up-hill battle, as the Dems have finally figured out. So, they will employ their usual politics-by-fear, and fill the airwaves with individual stories about evil insurers denying coverage (which are certain to be vastly exaggerated), and they will plant the fear that the very same thing could happen to every Harry & Louise Q Citizen without the MediCoup solution.

    Now, when Barack Obama promised a “transparent presidency,” was he referring to how easily a fourth grader could see through his party’s continuing use of these tacky Alinsky tactics?

    Also true to Alinsky form, Pelosi artfully waxed all week on the opposition, portraying herself as the purely do-gooding representative of the little people, and portraying anyone who opposes her as the enemy of same little people. Setting up the battle lines, Pelosi told the NYT what the so-called enemies of the little people will do in August:

    “This is going to be carpet bombing,” she said. “Carpet bombing, slash and burn, shock and awe – anything you want to say to describe what the insurance companies will do to hold on to their special advantage, which exploits the patients and holds the American consumer at the mercy of the insurance company.”

    Friday’s late-breaking news that Henry Waxman had strong-armed the Blue Dogs in his committee into rubber-stamping the “public option” tells any sentient observer that the Democrat generals will paint any — and every — opposition to their blatant power grab as a purely demonic enemy of the people. Before Pelosi and company are done at the end of August, any Democrat who dares to voice even the faintest concern over this new DC power-grab will be rhetorically nailed to the nearest tree as a public-hating scoundrel.

    And how can the Democrats fail?

    After all, folks, the ‘stars are aligned’ with them and their new power grab.

    Barack, the magic insurance salesman, told them so.

    And, if anyone out there doubts the clout of this power-hungry mob of DC jetsetters, then Imperious Nancy has a few words on that score. As she reminded the NYT just last week, when President Bush wanted to privatize social security accounts (putting the power of that purse back in the hands of the people), 60% of the seniors were in favor of it. Then, the Democrats went on attack, mobilized their Alinskyite armies in a propaganda campaign, and in less than a San-Fran minute, 70% were opposed. Pelosi kept Social Security power in DC, away from the people, and still came out with a rose between her pearly-whites, looking like the beneficent goddess she somehow imagines herself to be.

    So, if Imperious Nancy and her shocktroops from ACORN, SEIU and all the other propagandists can convince the American public that it’s better to have a DC bureaucrat between them and their healthcare provider than to have a private insurer in that spot, then they will pass the public option in short order and drive every private healthcare enterprise out of business. Which, of course, is the end game plan. A complete MediCoup.

    My advice is to just tell Democrats — the whole lot of ‘em — that if they even want to discuss healthcare reform, then they must first take the Skin-in-the-Game Pledge.

    You see, the dirty little secret of the DC jetsetters, living off public largess, is that they have the Rolls Royce of health insurance. And we pay for most of it. Why is the Congress’ healthcare plan comparable to a Rolls Royce? Why, because it contains the thing Americans most desire: lots of choices. And those choices come at subsidized rates, with taxpayers aiming up the difference. Yet, the Democrat MediCoup plan will limit the choices and raise the costs for the rest of us lowly citizens.

    These folks have got no skin in this game, nary even a tiny chunk of flesh.

    When every single Democrat Congressperson and their President signs a pledge to be the first enrollees in their “public option” health insurance scheme, then, and only then, will we be willing to talk about reform. Because, at the moment, we — Harry & Louise Q. Citizens — are the only ones with any skin in this game and we’re feeling mighty burned.

    These Democrats are nothing but a bunch of Alinskyite power-mongering vultures out to empower themselves and buy votes at our expense. Any pretense of public service is just another one of their tacky — utterly transparent — tactics, which, at this point, ought to elicit little more than a collective belch from the American public.

  565. samhenry says:

    Hi Tellit and M2 – what has happened to the blog – did someone drop a Neutron bomb? Is everyone sleeping in? Is there a parade or tea party we are missing?

    I am on my way to a nearby farm to pick up some great rocks for my garden not my head. M2 – it will be raining cats and dogs here by afternoon. What bad thing did we do to deserve this “summer.”

    CNN just interviewed Laffler. We need to check in with him. He had some good points about health care.

    bbl

  566. Foxwood says:

    Morning SamH,

    I myself have been very busy, between work and work.

  567. samhenry says:

    From the WSJ June 2009

    Get Ready for Inflation and Higher Interest Rates
    The unprecedented expansion of the money supply could make the ’70s look benign.

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    By ARTHUR B. LAFFER

    Rahm Emanuel was only giving voice to widespread political wisdom when he said that a crisis should never be “wasted.” Crises enable vastly accelerated political agendas and initiatives scarcely conceivable under calmer circumstances. So it goes now.

    Here we stand more than a year into a grave economic crisis with a projected budget deficit of 13% of GDP. That’s more than twice the size of the next largest deficit since World War II. And this projected deficit is the culmination of a year when the federal government, at taxpayers’ expense, acquired enormous stakes in the banking, auto, mortgage, health-care and insurance industries.

    With the crisis, the ill-conceived government reactions, and the ensuing economic downturn, the unfunded liabilities of federal programs — such as Social Security, civil-service and military pensions, the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, Medicare and Medicaid — are over the $100 trillion mark. With U.S. GDP and federal tax receipts at about $14 trillion and $2.4 trillion respectively, such a debt all but guarantees higher interest rates, massive tax increases, and partial default on government promises.

    But as bad as the fiscal picture is, panic-driven monetary policies portend to have even more dire consequences. We can expect rapidly rising prices and much, much higher interest rates over the next four or five years, and a concomitant deleterious impact on output and employment not unlike the late 1970s.

    About eight months ago, starting in early September 2008, the Bernanke Fed did an abrupt about-face and radically increased the monetary base — which is comprised of currency in circulation, member bank reserves held at the Fed, and vault cash — by a little less than $1 trillion. The Fed controls the monetary base 100% and does so by purchasing and selling assets in the open market. By such a radical move, the Fed signaled a 180-degree shift in its focus from an anti-inflation position to an anti-deflation position.
    [Our Exploding Money Supply]

    The percentage increase in the monetary base is the largest increase in the past 50 years by a factor of 10 (see chart nearby). It is so far outside the realm of our prior experiential base that historical comparisons are rendered difficult if not meaningless. The currency-in-circulation component of the monetary base — which prior to the expansion had comprised 95% of the monetary base — has risen by a little less than 10%, while bank reserves have increased almost 20-fold. Now the currency-in-circulation component of the monetary base is a smidgen less than 50% of the monetary base. Yikes!

    Bank reserves are crucially important because they are the foundation upon which banks are able to expand their liabilities and thereby increase the quantity of money.

    Banks are required to hold a certain fraction of their liabilities — demand deposits and other checkable deposits — in reserves held at the Fed or in vault cash. Prior to the huge increase in bank reserves, banks had been constrained from expanding loans by their reserve positions. They weren’t able to inject liquidity into the economy, which had been so desperately needed in response to the liquidity crisis that began in 2007 and continued into 2008. But since last September, all of that has changed. Banks now have huge amounts of excess reserves, enabling them to make lots of net new loans.

    The way a bank or the banking system makes new loans is conceptually pretty simple. Banks find an entity that they believe to be credit-worthy that also wants a loan, and in exchange for the new company’s IOU (i.e., loan) the bank opens up a checking account for the customer. For the bank’s sake, the hope is that the interest paid by the borrower more than makes up for the cost and risk of the loan. The recently ballyhooed “stress tests” on banks are nothing more than checking how well a bank can weather differing levels of default risk.

    What’s important for the overall economy, however, is how fast these loans are made and how rapidly the quantity of money increases. For our purposes, money is the sum total of all currency in circulation, bank demand deposits, other checkable deposits, and travelers checks (economists call this M1). When reserve constraints on banks are removed, it does take the banks time to make new loans. But given sufficient time, they will make enough new loans until they are once again reserve constrained. The expansion of money, given an increase in the monetary base, is inevitable, and will ultimately result in higher inflation and interest rates. In shorter time frames, the expansion of money can also result in higher stock prices, a weaker currency, and increases in commodity prices such as oil and gold.

    At present, banks are doing just what we would expect them to do. They are making new loans and increasing overall bank liabilities (i.e., money). The 12-month growth rate of M1 is now in the 15% range, and close to its highest level in the past half century.

    With an increased trust in the overall banking system, the panic demand for money has begun to and should continue to recede. The dramatic drop in output and employment in the U.S. economy will also reduce the demand for money. Reduced demand for money combined with rapid growth in money is a surefire recipe for inflation and higher interest rates. The higher interest rates themselves will also further reduce the demand for money, thereby exacerbating inflationary pressures. It’s a catch-22.

    It’s difficult to estimate the magnitude of the inflationary and interest-rate consequences of the Fed’s actions because, frankly, we haven’t ever seen anything like this in the U.S. To date what’s happened is potentially far more inflationary than were the monetary policies of the 1970s, when the prime interest rate peaked at 21.5% and inflation peaked in the low double digits. Gold prices went from $35 per ounce to $850 per ounce, and the dollar collapsed on the foreign exchanges. It wasn’t a pretty picture.

    Now the Fed can, and I believe should, do what it must to mitigate the inevitable consequences of its unwarranted increase in the monetary base. It should contract the monetary base back to where it otherwise would have been, plus a slight increase geared toward economic expansion. Absent this major contraction in the monetary base, the Fed should increase reserve requirements on member banks to absorb the excess reserves. Given that banks are now paid interest on their reserves and short-term rates are very low, raising reserve requirements should not exact too much of a penalty on the banking system, and the long-term gains of the lessened inflation would many times over warrant whatever short-term costs there might be.

    Alas, I doubt very much that the Fed will do what is necessary to guard against future inflation and higher interest rates. If the Fed were to reduce the monetary base by $1 trillion, it would need to sell a net $1 trillion in bonds. This would put the Fed in direct competition with Treasury’s planned issuance of about $2 trillion worth of bonds over the coming 12 months. Failed auctions would become the norm and bond prices would tumble, reflecting a massive oversupply of government bonds.

    In addition, a rapid contraction of the monetary base as I propose would cause a contraction in bank lending, or at best limited expansion. This is exactly what happened in 2000 and 2001 when the Fed contracted the monetary base the last time. The economy quickly dipped into recession. While the short-term pain of a deepened recession is quite sharp, the long-term consequences of double-digit inflation are devastating. For Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke it’s a Hobson’s choice. For me the issue is how to protect assets for my grandchildren.

    Mr. Laffer is the chairman of Laffer Associates and co-author of “The End of Prosperity: How Higher Taxes Will Doom the Economy — If We Let It Happen” (Threshold, 2008).

  568. samhenry says:

    Good to see you FOX. I just posted (without cleaning it up) an article by Arthur Laffer on what higher taxes will do to us.

  569. m2 says:

    hey foxwood, Sh… the blog is too slow. I’m abandoning ship until we get a new fresh blog post!

  570. m2 says:

    Barack O’Carter II

  571. m2 says:

    Great, “time” for them SH to be dumping our current working system which 90% of people are covered, 80%+ are happy. And the largest socialized Healthcare nation is still only 1/3 rd the size of ours. The Democrats know they are destroying this country. The only ones who don’t know it, are their blind supporters.

  572. samhenry says:

    Please watch the vid before we get a fresh post.

  573. samhenry says:

    m2 – all we have to do is an overhaul of Medicaid and medicare. Why reinvent the wheel?

    See you later

  574. m2 says:

    SH, he thinks they don’t know. But they do.
    Jimmy Carter may not have known.

    But Obama and friends do.

  575. m2 says:

    I leave you with this, have a good day!!

    ****
    Who’s funding the Obamacare Astroturf campaign?
    by Michelle Malkin
    Creators Syndicate
    Copyright 2009
    If you believe the White House, there are 30 million Americans who support a government health care takeover. But if you look at the funding behind the Obamacare Astroturf campaign, it’s the same few Leftist billionaires, union bosses, and partisan community organizers pushing the socialized medicine agenda. Let’s connect the dots.
    On Thursday, a national “grass-roots” coalition called “Health Care for America Now (HCAN)” will march on Capitol Hill to demand universal health care. The ground troops won’t have to march very far. HCAN, you see, is no heartland network. It is headquartered at 1825 K Street in Washington, D.C. – smack dab in the middle of Beltway lobby land.
    In fact, 1825 K Street is Ground Zero for a plethora of “progressive” groups subsidized by anti-war, anti-Republican, Big Nanny special interests. Around Washington, the office complex is known as “The Other K Street.” The Washington Post noted in 2007 that “[i]ts most prominent tenants form an abbreviated who’s who of well-funded allies of the Democratic Party… Big money from unions such as the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, as well as the Internet-fueled MoveOn, has provided groups like those at 1825 K Street the wherewithal to mount huge campaigns.”
    MoveOn, of course, is the recreational political vehicle of radical liberal sugar daddy George Soros. The magnate’s financial fingerprints are all over the HCAN coalition, which includes MoveOn; the action fund of the Center for American Progress (a Soros think tank); and the Campaign for America’s Future (a pro-welfare state lobbying outfit).
    HCAN has a $40 million budget, with $10 million pitched in by Atlantic Philanthropies – a Bermuda-based organization fronted by Soros acolyte Gara LaMarche. Also in the money mix: Notorious Democrat donors Herb and Marion Sandler, the left-wing moguls who made billions selling shady subprime mortgages and helped Soros fund his vast network of left-wing activist satellites. By their side is billionaire Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance, whose “Progressive Future” youth group has dispatched clueless volunteers armed with clipboards and literature bashing Rush Limbaugh and Fox News to scare up support for Obamcare.
    And two more left-wing heavyweights joining the HCAN parade: the corruption-riddled SEIU (which has battled numerous embezzlement scandals among its chapters across the country while crusading for consumer and patients’ rights) and Obama’s old chums at fraud-riddled ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
    ACORN and HCAN are linked by left-wing philanthropist Drummond Pike, who heads the non-profit Tides Foundation/Tides Center. As the tax disclaimer for HCAN discloses, “HCAN is related to Health Care for America Education Fund, a project of The Tides Center, a section 501(c)(3) public charity.” For decades, the Tides Center and its parent organization, the Tides Foundation, have seeded some of the country’s most radical activist groups of the Left, including the communist-friendly United for Peace and Justice, the jihadist-friendly National Lawyers Guild; and the grievance-mongering Council for American-Islamic Relations.
    Pike is the same philanthropist who assisted ACORN founder Wade Rathke after his brother, Dale, was caught embezzling nearly $1 million from the community organizing group. Rathke sits on the Tides Foundation board of directors. In a conspiracy to cover up Dale Rathke’s massive theft of funds, Pike volunteered to buy a promissory note worth $800,000 to cover the debt. These are the populist do-gooders supposedly looking out for you and your health.
    Why do they want Obamacare? An internal ACORN memo I obtained from August 2008 makes the motives clear. “Over our 38 years, health care organizing has never been a major focus either nationally or locally for ACORN,” wrote ACORN Philadelphia region director Craig Robbins. “But increasingly, ACORN offices around the country are doing work on health care.” The goal: “Building ACORN Power.” The memo outlines the ACORN/HCAN partnership and strategy of opposing any programs that rely on “unregulated private insurance” – and then parlaying political victory on government-run health care “to move our ACORN agenda (or at least part of it) with key electeds that we might otherwise not be able to pull off.”
    The objective, in other words, is to piggyback and exploit Obamacare to improve and protect their political health. The “grass-roots” movement is not about representing Main Street. It’s about peddling influence and power on 1825 K Street.

  576. samhenry says:

    I raise you in vid terms

    (CBS) Budget cuts at the Secret Service are so deep and a “culture change” so pervasive that the agency tasked with protecting the president is putting his life is at risk, because agents are cutting so many corners.

    The explosive charge comes from Ronald Kessler, author of the new book, “In the President’s Secret Service,” in which Kessler reveals many previously unknown inside info told to him by agents themselves.

    Secret Service Denies this.

  577. m2 says:

    did you guys know the WH has a site for their libbie brown shirts to report to?

    says this

    These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to …

    You Obama diehards are out of your FASCIST MINDS.

  578. samhenry says:

    Beck and I agree – the moment Barack backed his pal during the press conference was the moment he betrayed his racist leanings:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/28/ap/tv/main5194468.shtml

  579. Foxwood says:

    SamH said:
    “I just posted (without cleaning it up) an article by Arthur Laffer on what higher taxes will do to us.”

    Do you think we’ll get a jar of Vaseline?

    🙂

  580. Foxwood says:

    Beck is saying there is something in each of these big bills that when pieced together, will make one big machine. It’s not about Deathcare, not about Crap and Trade, it’s not about Cardcheck/Fastrack, there is something else they are trying to piece together.

    Why are these bill so big? Why are they not reading them, why are they ramming it down our throats without a care what we thing?

    I believe as Beck does, there is something else.

  581. m2 says:

    foxwood, where’s the link to the house bill… Rush was just reading it…

    this is what I typed quickly-
    16
    29
    42
    58

    59 “The federal acct. will have direct real time access to bank accounts”

    195 “the tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax”

  582. m2 says:

    nevermind I found it.

  583. m2 says:

    Sam Henry, Rush says Art Laffer is coming on at the top of the hour…

  584. Pingback: Darrell Issa to Rahm Emanuel on Stimulus/Porkulus Criticism: “Back Off! This Isn’t Chicago…” « Frugal Café Blog Zone

  585. m2 says:

    Issa to Emanuel: Back Off!

    August 4, 2009
    WASHINGTON. D.C. – Following reports that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has been orchestrating an effort to intimidate members of Congress and Governors who raise legitimate concerns regarding the effectiveness of the stimulus, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Ranking Member Darrell Issa (R-CA) sent a letter to Emanuel saying “While this type of scare tactic may work In Chicago, it will not work to intimidate me or other Members of the United States Congress.”

    “I and others have dared to bring these facts to the attention of President Obama, the Congress and the American people,” Issa wrote. “You’ve unfortunately reacted by once again resorting to the playbook of the Chicago political machine.”

    Last month, Politico reported that Emanuel had “launched a coordinated effort to jam” Senator Kyl and other Administration critics… “[A]fter seeing Kyl and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) again paint the legislation as a failure on Sunday talk shows, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel directed that the letters from the Cabinet secretaries be sent to [Governor] Brewer, according to two administration officials.”

    Issa noted, “The fact that the letters were coordinated by you to maximize the level of intimidation is supported by the timing, structure, and content of each letter. Not only were the four letters all sent the day following Senator Kyl’s remarks, but they were also remarkably similar in tone and sentence structure.”

    Letter from Ray LaHood, Secretary of Transportation:
    On Sunday, Arizona Senator Jon Kyl publicly questioned whether the stimulus is working and stated that he wants to cancel projects that aren’t presently underway. I believe the stimulus has been very effective in creating job opportunities throughout the country. However, if you prefer to forfeit the money we are making available to your state, as Senator Kyl suggests, please let me know [emphasis added].

    Letter from Ken Salazar, Secretary of the Interior:
    Some key Republican leaders in Congress have publicly questioned whether the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act is working and suggested cancelling all projects that are not currently in progress. I believe they are wrong. The stimulus funds provided through the Recovery Act are a very effective way to create job opportunities throughout the Country. However, if you prefer to forfeit the money we are making available to Arizona, please let me know [emphasis added].

    “At what point do you believe your practice of Chicago-style politics violates a public official’s right to speak out in favor of alternative policies,” Issa asks. “The American people have a right to know what role you played in developing the threatening letters to Governor Brewer and whether you intend to continue to engage in these tactics in the future.”

    In order to assist the Committee with its investigation of this issue, please provide the following information by close of business on Tuesday, August 11, 2009:
    Your response to Politico’s report that “White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel directed that the letters from the Cabinet secretaries be sent to [Governor] Brewer, according to two administration officials.”
    A full and complete explanation of the development of the four July 13 letters from the cabinet secretaries to Governor Brewer, including but not limited to the role you or any other White House official played in writing the letters or encouraging the writing of the letters.
    All records and communications between you and Secretary LaHood, Secretary Salazar, Secretary Donovan, and Secretary Vilsack referring or relating to the decision to send the July 13 letters to Governor Brewer.
    A full and complete explanation of the role of the Democratic National Committee and the White House Office of Political Affairs in authoring, encouraging, facilitating, or directing the four July 13 letters from the cabinet secretaries to Governor Brewer.

  586. Foxwood says:

    Sorry, M2, I had truck problems. Here’s the bill.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:

  587. Foxwood says:

    Rush was saying today, the only chance that the Dems have at their town hall meetings is if a nut job goes volatile. I’m guessing they will continue to hold the meeting “just in case”.

  588. samhenry says:

    From CNN

    Club for Growth targets Democrats over health care
    Posted: August 4th, 2009 03:37 PM ET

    From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — The anti-tax Club for Growth is launching a $1.2 million ad campaign in four states pressuring Democratic members of Congress to “oppose government-run health care.”

    The spot makes the claim that in England, the government-administered health care system makes decisions about when patients should die.

    “Life and death medical decisions should be made by patients and doctors, not politicians and bureaucrats,” says the ad’s narrator.

    The 30-second ad will begin running Thursday in Nevada, Colorado, Arkansas and North Dakota. Several of the Democratic legislators being targeted hail from conservative districts and might have to answer for their health care vote in the 2010 midterms.

    “Members of Congress who would support a plan that raises taxes and involves the government in some of the most important and personal decisions in our lives will hear from us,” said the Club’s president Chris Chocola in a statement announcing the campaign.

    Read the rest of this entry »

  589. Foxwood says:

    I am glad the two women have been released from NK. I just wonder what Bill gave the NKs.

    And I won’t leave any tacky remarks that I’ve heard.

  590. samhenry says:

    Hi FOX

    M2 – I am not surprised Rahm Emanuel is strong arming members of congress. That’s what he was hired for.

  591. Foxwood says:

    I’ve also heard today, and as soon as I find it I’ll get the website posted, but Libs are supposed to tattle on anyone not giving accurate information on the health care bill. One of the websites that Kathleen Sebelius said was telling flat lies was Drudge. All Drudge did was use youtubes of what Obuttface said. Could we be next and what are the consequences?

  592. Foxwood says:

    Morning, SamH.

  593. Foxwood says:

    Next cellsite…

  594. samhenry says:

    FOX – I’ve been searching under terms like “Gov watch list conservative bloggers” and have found a few things that say the libs are watching conservative bloggs AND that they consider conservatives terrorists. Things are really the way they were in pre-war Germany or the Soviet Union. When have we ever had a need for “truth Squads.” So we make a list – then what – exposed to the media as terrorists?

    This is just a detraction from what they are doing to push through health care. There is censorship coming on the internet. How this whole thing with Lou Dobbs was handled was a concern. Also the handling of Glenn Beck.

  595. samhenry says:

    People have not seen the “silent majority” pissed off in a long time. Are they now? Youbetcha. Bigtime.

    Obama thinks his on-line army is the only game in town. Think again Barack. The RNC may not be hip but many others on-line are and you would be surprised how fast conservative bloggers could hook up to print/distribute things very effectively. We have been using the net very effectively for a longer period of time using a minimum of tech. We leave the liberal media and you the grand websites and mailing lists!

  596. samhenry says:

    Realy miss the CAT and DOG debates. Hope golf is good. Know it has not been a good time for it. Also CATS do need vacations occasionally. I think M2 and Lisa and FOX and Tellit and Karm have done a good job holding down the blog. I just check in de temps a temps.

  597. karmahd says:

    > The year is 1947
    >
    > Some of you will recall that on July 8, 1947, a little over 60 years
    > ago, witnesses claim that an unidentified flying object (UFO) with five
    > aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and mule ranch just outside Roswell ,
    > New Mexico . This is a well known incident that many say has long been
    > covered up by the U.S. Air Force and other federal agencies and
    > organizations.
    >
    > However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of April 1948, nine
    > months after that historic day, the following people were born:
    >
    > Albert A. Gore, Jr..
    > Hillary Rodham
    > John F. Kerry
    > William J. Clinton
    > Howard Dean
    > Nancy Pelosi
    > Dianne Feinstein
    > Charles E. Schumer
    > Barbara Boxer
    >
    > See what happens when aliens breed with sheep and jackasses?
    > I certainly hope this bit of information clears up a lot of things for you. I now understand completely.
    >
    > No wonder they support the bill to help illegal aliens!

  598. samhenry says:

    LOL Karm – did you get back on the net?

  599. samhenry says:

    CAT – WE need help – slow posting!

    Thunder boomers. Will be back later FOX, Karm, M2

  600. karmahd says:

    yes SH it was sent to me, I thought it was pretty funny.

  601. m2 says:

    THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST GLENN BECK SHOW BEGINNING I HAVE EVER SEEN.

  602. samhenry says:

    Karm – Geeze the military is full of late developers if their read on Social Networks has just taken hold, lol but they seem to be right up to snuff in other ways “the Pentagon’s newly-appointed social media czar, said.”

  603. samhenry says:

    Hi M2 and FOX – Fox they highlighted that vid on CNN today. That was in direct response to Drudge vids which they downloaded from YouTube. They are running scared – or on empty – witchever..

  604. Foxwood says:

    Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in ‘Casual Conversation,’ the White House Wants to Know About It

    http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/04/call-for-informants-if-you-oppose-obamacare-the-white-house-wants-to-know-about-it/

  605. karmahd says:

    So Foxwood what this lady in your video is saying is believe Obama, nobody else is telling the truth. Also one of Obamas statements was we want to stop the health care companies from making money?? Is this not further expansion of government into the private sector!!!!

  606. Foxwood says:

    Karma, SamH, And we have the bill, we can read it, and they tell us WE’RE the liars?

  607. m2 says:

    Oh my gosh look at what they titled that YouTube Vid!!!

    The next in their Marxist Propaganda!!

    First it was Healthcare Overhaul,
    then they focus grouped that, and changed it to Healthcare “Reform”
    Now it’s Healthcare Insurance Reform.

    Let’s not forget it was “Universal” before “Single Payer”…
    until Single Payer become known as Universal. Then Healthcare Overhaul.. dadadada da.

  608. karmahd says:

    I strongly disagree with the Obama Health Care program, it is a quagmire of lies and mistruths.

    (you can report me at the below link thanks to Foxwood)

    http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/04/call-for-informants-if-you-oppose-obamacare-the-white-house-wants-to-know-about-it/