Obama Health Care – like All Americans Taking Up A Three Pack a Day Smoking Habit; both Costly and Deadly

Death By Delay; Your Life is Worth Less to Universal Govt Health Admin

Death By Delay; Your Life is Worth Less to Universal Govt Health Admin

Barack “Trust Me” Obama’s Goal is to Remake America into a Socialist State where Government controls your money, your life, and your death.

Time is running out for Obama

hourglass

The Obama Charm is wearing off in light of his behavior… even Lou Dobbs of CNN, last night, Called for Barack Obama to stop stonewalling and reveal his long form birth certificate. No joke folks… even CNN is now calling on The Enchanted One to stop hiding his long form birth certificate.

The Biggest Obama Lie of All: “If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

Oh really??? Listen to this!!!

OBAMA PRETENDS
NOT TO KNOW
WHAT IS IN THE BILL

OBAMA GOT CAUGHT
IN HIS SNAKE OIL SALESMANSHIP LIES

AND HE COUNTERS WITH
LET ME SPEAK FOR THE “OBAMA ADMINISTRATION?”

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This WILL BE a Single Control Government Mandated Federalized System… and Obama has no problems saying any lie to get you to buy his snake oil.

Under the multi-trillion dollar Obama Care Bill, if your individual health care cost gets high you will simply be wait-listed until it is too late for you.You will simply not be worth the amount of money the government takes from you.

It is called Death by Rationing.

If you doubt it… you deserve to get what is coming for you

Millions of Swing Voters and Voters within the Dem party are joining Conservative Voters and revolting against “The Enchanted One.”

Obama Worship is a dying religion.

In the end… no one wants to be worth more dead than alive.

It is called the Human Instinct for Survival.

Obama will bring to prime time this evening his very best Snake Oil Salesmanship to blow more smoke up the ass of America. Who and how many will not buy it will dictate whether the life expectancy of Americans will be reduced.

Obama Health Care
It’s Like All Americans Taking Up
A Three Pack a Day Smoking Habit;
Both Costly and Deadly

Lets see what is being reported by the Wall Street Journal, shall we???

Repealing Erisa

One by one, President Obama’s health-care promises are being exposed by the details of the actual legislation: Costs will explode, not fall; taxes will have to soar to pay for it; and now we are learning that you won’t be able to “keep your health-care plan” either.

The reality is that the House health bill, which the Administration praised to the rafters, will force drastic changes in almost all insurance coverage, including the employer plans that currently work best. About 177 million people—or 62% of those under age 65—get insurance today through their jobs, and while rising costs are a problem, according to every survey most employees are happy with the coverage. A major reason for this relative success is a 1974 federal law known by the acronym Erisa, or the Employee Retirement Income Security Act.

Erisa allows employers that self-insure—that is, those large enough to build their own risk pools and pay benefits directly—to offer uniform plans across state lines. This lets thousands of businesses avoid, for the most part, the costly federal and state regulations on covered treatments, pricing, rate setting and so on. It also gives them flexibility to design insurance to recruit and retain workers in a competitive labor market. Roughly 75% of employer-based coverage is governed by Erisa’s “freedom of purchase” rules.

Goodbye to all that. The House bill says that after a five-year grace period all Erisa insurance offerings will have to win government approval—both by the Department of Labor and a new “health choices commissioner” who will set federal standards for what is an acceptable health plan. This commissar—er, commissioner—can fine employers that don’t comply and even has “suspension of enrollment” powers for plans that he or she has vetoed, until “satisfied that the basis for such determination has been corrected and is not likely to recur.”

In other words, the insurance coverage of 132 million people—the product of enormously complex business and health-care decisions—will now be subject to bureaucratic nanomanagement. If employers don’t meet some still-to-be-defined minimum package, they’ll have to renegotiate thousands of contracts nationwide to Washington’s specifications. The political incentives will of course demand an ever-more generous “minimum” benefit and less cost-sharing, much as many states have driven up prices in the individual insurance market with mandates. Erisa’s pluralistic structure will gradually constrict toward a single national standard.

Yet a computer programming firm, say, and a grocery store chain have very different insurance needs, and in any case may not be able to afford the same kind and level of benefits. Innovation in insurance products will also be subject to political tampering. Likely casualties include the wellness initiatives that give workers financial incentives to take more responsibility for their own health, such as Safeway’s. Some politicians will claim that’s unfair. High-deductible plans with health savings accounts are also out of political favor, therefore certain to go overboard. If you have one of those and like it, too bad.

The new Erisa regime will be especially difficult to meet for businesses that operate with very slim profit margins or have large numbers of part-time or seasonal workers. They may simply “cash out” and surrender 8% of their payroll under the employer-mandate tax. A new analysis by the Lewin Group, prepared for the Heritage Foundation, finds that some 88.1 million people will be shifted out of private employer health insurance under the House bill. If those people preferred their prior plan, well, too bad again.

The largest employers—though not all—may clear the minimum bar, at least at first. But in addition to the “health choices” administrative burden, the cost of labor will rise because the House guts another key section of Erisa. Currently, lawsuits about employee benefits are barred under the law, allowing large employers to avoid the state tort lotteries in disputes over coverage. No longer. As a gratuity to the trial bar, Democrats will now subject businesses to these liabilities in the name of health “reform.”

So when Mr. Obama says that “If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what,” he’s wrong. Period. What he’s not telling the American people is that the government will so dramatically change the rules of the insurance market that employers will find it impossible to maintain their current coverage, and many will drop it altogether. The more we inspect the House bill, the more it looks to be one of the worst pieces of legislation ever introduced in Congress.

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408 Responses to Obama Health Care – like All Americans Taking Up A Three Pack a Day Smoking Habit; both Costly and Deadly

  1. samiam60 says:

    As Obama prepares to speak to America tonight I can tell all of you first hand the horrors of Government Run Healthcare. I am a Vietnam Veteran under the Veterans Health Care plan and to tell you the truth the Medical Care I receive is an absolute nightmare. Without going into detail I have been turned away from Medical Tests and Care because it was simply unjustified because of the “Cost” factor, according to the Veterans Hospital.
    Now do you want YOUR loved ones and children to me at the Mercy of a Government Run Health care system?

  2. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Everyone. The tension is building.

    Cardin Town Hall Meeting On Health Care Gets Angry

    LARGO, Md. (WUSA) — Maryland Senator Ben Cardin, a Democrat who favors health care reform, faced an audience of more than 500 people (at its peak) Monday evening for what he called a town hall meeting on the topic that is the number one item on President Obama’s domestic agenda.

    With so many versions of the legislation in so many committees on Capitol Hill, the bill’s final form is far from known.

    “We’re at the first stages of the discussion of health care reform,” Cardin said.

    Audience members could offer questions on cards that were passed out as they entered the Prince George’s County Community College Student Center, or they could line up at microphones to offer them in person.

    Perhaps the most controversial, came from Robert Broadus of Clinton, Maryland, an audience member who had lost his job and replaced it with one that paid him far less money.

    “I decided not to get the health insurance. That’s working out for me because I’m able to save that extra money and give it to my family members and use it on myself. Senator Cardin, I want to know are you going to tell me an individual…that I have to buy health care or else you’re going to fine me $2,500 every year I don’t get it? Our founding fathers assured us we have a Bill of Rights and I want to see you uphold that,” Broadus said in an increasingly emotional voice and to scattered applause.

    Cardin responded by asking Broadus what would happen if he became sick, broke a bone, had a car accident and ended up in an emergency room.

    “You don’t pay. You are part of the population that shifts its costs over to a person who does pay, and they’re paying for you,” Cardin said.

    Explaining how hospitals have often to absorb those costs, Cardin said many hospitals would chose simply to leave the community.

    “I just think the overriding public interest is to require you and everyone in this country to have health insurance,” Cardin said.

  3. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning Tellitlikeitis and VF, SamH. 🙂

  4. samiam60 says:

    Michelle Malkin describes this Socialist Program as : CODE BLUE. That is a hospital code for someone who is dying and needs immediate medical attention. Under Obama’s plan would be changed from CODE BLUE to PULL THE PLUG.

  5. SamHenry says:

    Tellit

    Since there are so many versions of the health care bill in so many Congressional Committees and that the shape and form of the actual legislation is unknown, it appears premature to say the least for the President to hold forth at length about things that may or may not obtain.

  6. SamHenry says:

    Good morning VF, Sami and Tellit.

  7. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning all. It is a new day and our journey together has seen great accomplishments to date. We are living in incredible times and these days Our words are as sharp as a two edged sword. Our Freedoms have been threatened and our resolve is firm. We shall not fade away but rather restore the Constitution and our Freedoms as the Founding Fathers had intended. The World Wide Web is now the Power of the People.
    Mr. Obama we are more than just a Cup of Tea.
    We are ” We The People”.

  8. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Tellit!

    I added an important youtube vid recorded yesterday while Obama was appealing to liberal bloggers to help sell his health care snake oil… and Obama got it snapped on in his Obama Administration Ass… by one of them liberal bloggers.

    this guys time is draining out

  9. VotingFemale says:

    http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=10412

    [Mayo Clinic] The Gold Standard of Healthcare Denounces Obamacare

  10. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good morning VF, He is pulling out all the stops to get this done by August. There is so much confusion about it but that’s what he wants. I thinks bell or m2 said last night that he is going to get this done come hell or high water even if it means circumventing the Congress. How else would you expect a dictator to act.

  11. tellitlikeitis says:

    good morning Sam and SH.

  12. tellitlikeitis says:

    The biggest lie he has told so far was he said it’s not about him. The truth is it’s all about him and his agenda.

  13. VotingFemale says:

    It is ALL ABOUT BARACK and always has been…

    I await his bully tactics to come to light… and would have loved to be a fly on the wall during the one hour meeting with the blue dog DEMS at the white house yesterday.

  14. SamHenry says:

    Well there was a report that Pelosi does not have to Blue Dog dems under control. I will track that down and sniff it out.

  15. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, I am sure the arm twisting has been going on for awhile. The blue dogs are watching their political careers start to vanish right before their very eyes. Many of them took seats away from republicans in conservative congressional districts. If they jump on board with Obama on this they are afraid it will blow up in their faces and they will be toast in 2010.

  16. VotingFemale says:

    I saw a brief interview with a spokesman for the Blue Dog Coalition after the Obama meeting… and from what he said… their issues stands; Obama did not turn them.

  17. VotingFemale says:

    Junior Dem congressmen are standing up to Obama as well… they do not have the investment in their careers, thus are more fearless, than long time DEM congressmen with more to loose by not being dead fish going with the flow…

  18. VotingFemale says:

    I just wish Sarah Palin had announced her resignation earlier… I know she is going to weigh in on this like a lightening bolt to Obama’s head as soon as she is out of office and free from the harassers and their war of ethics filings.

  19. m2 says:

    Good morning friends!

    Democrats are starting to see what he’s about.
    Good for them.

    the Stimulus was political payout, and Healthcare is nothing more than finishing this Marxist takeover.

    His arrogance is extremely disconcerting.

  20. m2 says:

    Well, Sarah Palin doesn’t want this for her children or her senior parents.

    Who would?

    That’s why she’s serving a higher calling.
    Stopping this fascist is as probably as high a calling as one can get.

  21. VotingFemale says:

    M2, without these DEMs turning on Obama …all would be lost, in my opinion.

    Their actions separates them from the actual Socialists like Obama, Pelosi, Barney Frank and all those of their ilk.

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  22. m2 says:

    I agree, I’m so proud of them standing up for this Un-American behavior.

    Congress is “slow” for a reason. To stop this fraud and wrongfulness, and allow the American people (I know a new notion to Obama) to see what laws they are passing.

  23. m2 says:

    Did you see how he unprecedentedly called for a mtg. in the Oval with the head of the CBO (non-partisan group which Congress created) in order to threaten and pressure them?

    Shades of Chavez anyone?

  24. VotingFemale says:

    I see her as America’s future William Wallace…

    m2 says

    Well, Sarah Palin doesn’t want this for her children or her senior parents.

    Who would?

    That’s why she’s serving a higher calling.
    Stopping this fascist is as probably as high a calling as one can get.

  25. tellitlikeitis says:

    I believe Obama is walking on a slippery slope now. His own party is getting upset with him and worried that he is going to take them down the road to ruin. If he gets to far out of control I would not be surprised if that elusive kenyan birth certificate magically appears proving as everone suspects that he is not a natural born citizen and he will be null and void and his presidency will be over. The democrats will eat their own if it means survival.

  26. m2 says:

    I thought that very same thing, Tellit, yesterday.

  27. VotingFemale says:

    And Obama fortifies his plans by appointing a Frankenstein as the Science Czar… which will dovetail nicely with his ObamaCare plans for Americans…

    see: http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/21/the-science-czar-stonewalls/

    excerpt:

    The science czar stonewalls
    By Michelle Malkin • July 21, 2009 01:54 PM

    Can a population control freak holding the prestigious title of “Science Czar” get away with published musings on forced abortion, mass sterilization programs, and a “planetary regime” to re-engineer society by simply stonewalling?

    He’s trying his best.

    Last week, I called the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy to press Science Czar John Holdren on his views; his purported disavowal of Ecoscience, the book he co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich; and his continued embrace of forced-abortion advocate and eugenics guru Harrison Brown, whom he credits with inspiring him to become a scientist.

    I got an earful from OSTP flack Rick Weiss, who lectured me about journalism. He let me know that he was a reporter for 15 years (at the Washington Post) and put me on notice against writing a “smear job.” He had snippy words for blogs covering the Holdren story and warned against making unfair associations between what Holdren believes and what other population control promoters believe.

    But when I pressed him specifically about Holdren’s relationship with Harrison Brown, he:

    1) said he didn’t know who he was;

    2) balked at drawing any conclusions about Holdren’s views based on his homages to Brown (even though Brown is a lifelong intellectual mentor, colleague, and continued inspiration for Holdren);

    3) and told me not to expect any response from Holdren’s office on my specific question about whether Hodren disavows his relationship with a eugenics enthusiast who referred to the world population as a “pulsating mass of maggots.”

    I didn’t have any luck. Maybe you will.

    Questions:

    1) Does Dr. Holdren disavow the population control extremism of his intellectual mentor and colleague, Harrison Brown or not?

    2) Does Dr. Holdren also view the world population as a “pulsating mass of maggots?”

    3) Was Dr. Holdren unaware of Harrison Brown’s views when he paid homage to him at the AAAS keynote address in 2007?

    Contact the science czar:

    Office of Science and Technology Policy
    Executive Office of the President
    725 17th Street Room 5228
    Washington, DC 20502
    info@ostp.gov

    Director’s Office
    Phone: 202.456.7116
    Fax: 202.456.6021

  28. tellitlikeitis says:

    morning m2.

  29. m2 says:

    I’m really not sure why people aren’t in the streets over this.. the science “Czar”… really? Is media indoctrination that mind-numbing that people just don’t care there are CRIMINALS un-elected, non-appointed, changing our country?

  30. m2 says:

    morning tellit!

  31. m2 says:

    Guess the power of silver fox (anderson cooper) soothes and assuages all mind numbed robots.

  32. VotingFemale says:

    M2,

    Obama has revealed himself as a snake lower than the low… and he slithers with the likes of Castro, Chevez, and the Islamic Mullahs , the Sharia Law Dictators…

    m2 says

    Did you see how he unprecedentedly called for a mtg. in the Oval with the head of the CBO (non-partisan group which Congress created) in order to threaten and pressure them?

    Shades of Chavez anyone?

  33. samiam60 says:

    We did it before and we can do it again:

  34. VotingFemale says:

    Michelle Malkin calls them NUTROOTS…

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nutroots

    1. nutroots 26 up, 6 down
    A play on the term “grassroots”; referring to activists, usually Leftists, whose protests are assumed to represent mainstream public opinion but that in fact represent those of lunatics. (See Frank Chu).

    The term differs from “econuts” in that the latter is presumed to concentrate on environmental activism, whereas the “nutroots” are more broad-based in their ideological interests. There is some crossover however – econuts are normally assumed to be a subset of the nutroots.

    In the UK the term is usually translated as the “loony Left”.
    That the WTC was destroyed by controlled demolitions planted by Bush administration employees and/or agents of the Mossad is an example of a belief common at the nutroots level.

  35. tellitlikeitis says:

    I honestly believe that the senior powerful members of the Democratic party know the real truth on his birth and will use that information if necessary to destroy him. They agree with his agenda but they want to do it in a subtle way as to not wake up the sleeping public. Obama on the other hand want to ram socialism right up our a$$es.

  36. m2 says:

    We see him usurping power. But he did the same thing to HRC in the primaries… busing people into Iowa to caucus… changing the rules of the Delegate vote to an unprecedented “in hotel room” vote (WHO WENT ALONG WITH THAT? WTF?)

    This man is on the level of Dictators… so I’m not sure if his spiraling “popularity” will actually speed-bump his plans to create a Marxist America. The trouble with egomaniacal dictators is they don’t care about justice, truth and what’s right. And Obama has been displaying these characteristics from day 1 of his public un-veiling.

    vf says: Obama has revealed himself as a snake lower than the low… and he slithers with the likes of Castro, Chevez, and the Islamic Mullahs , the Sharia Law Dictators…

    tellit says: I believe Obama is walking on a slippery slope now. His own party is getting upset with him and worried that he is going to take them down the road to ruin.

  37. VotingFemale says:

    As I reported above in this blogpost… CNN in the person of Lou Dobbs called out Obama last evening on his Long Form Birth Certificate… to produce it.

    That Obama is bleeding in the water… with DEM sharks circling… is not unnoticed at all.

    tellitlikeitis says

    I believe Obama is walking on a slippery slope now. His own party is getting upset with him and worried that he is going to take them down the road to ruin. If he gets to far out of control I would not be surprised if that elusive kenyan birth certificate magically appears proving as everone suspects that he is not a natural born citizen and he will be null and void and his presidency will be over. The democrats will eat their own if it means survival.

  38. samiam60 says:

    If you watched the video and saw the movie we all know What changed this patriots mind.

  39. m2 says:

    Nutroots… Looney Left… sounds accurate to me.

  40. arlenearmy says:

    Obama is already violating the separtation of powers. Foxnews said that he’s called a meeting w/ COG’s Elmendorf. At earlier hearing Elmendorf said that “subsidies to help uninsured people would raise federal health care spending, which is already growing at an unsustainable rate. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/story?id=8097048&page=1

    This meeting sounds suspect. I suspect that Obama is gonna threaten that man.

  41. tellitlikeitis says:

    I think Obama will succeed where bill clinton failed in destroying the Democrat party for decades to come. Nancy pelosi will help him do it.

  42. VotingFemale says:

    the movie The Patriot, is burned into my memory, Samiam.

    The Ghost was created by the acts of a Tyrant.

    samiam60 says

    If you watched the video and saw the movie we all know What changed this patriots mind.

  43. VotingFemale says:

    Bill Clinton was a “moderate” leftist…

    Barack Obama is a Full Blown Communist.

    And the only way for the DEM party to save itself is to devour Obama and all who stand with him.

    America is not who they thought they were.

    tellitlikeitis says

    I think Obama will succeed where bill clinton failed in destroying the Democrat party for decades to come. Nancy pelosi will help him do it.

  44. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi arlene, He has turned out exactly as I predicted as a self appointed arrogant dictator. He is using up political capital and starting to burn bridges with his own party. This is what happens when you elect somone who is not qualified for the office they hold.

  45. arlenearmy says:

    I hear that theres a bunch of closed doors meetings on capital hill. Where’s transparency.

    Pelosi is suppose to speaking today.

  46. m2 says:

    I knew this from the start, you can’t take anything they say as one iota of truth. All that yapping about “transparency” from Obama. This is what dictators do! Lull the people into false security.

  47. arlenearmy says:

    tellit
    I hear that Obama is very ILL informed on healthcare. I am in agreement w/Manning who called this a Obama Death Care

  48. samiam60 says:

    History tells us that the American people have never run from tyrants but defeated them!
    Let it be so for this generation of AMERICANS.

  49. m2 says:

    enator Ted Kennedy, who is now 76 years old and was diagnosed with brain cancer in May of last year, is telling the world that nationalized medical care is “the cause of his life.” He wants to see it pass as soon as possible, before he departs this vale of tears.

    The prospect of Kennedy’s passing is viewed by the liberal press with anticipatory tears and mourning. But they are not asking the proper question by their own lights: That question — which will be asked for you and me when we reach his age and state in life — is this:

    Is Senator Kennedy’s life valuable enough to dedicate millions of dollars to extending it another month, another day, another year?

    Because Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy agree with each other that they of all people are entitled to make that decision. Your decision to live or die will now be in their hands.

  50. SamHenry says:

    Waxman, Blue Dogs strike deal on costs
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    Henry Waxman speaks.
    Henry Waxman speaks after he and other Blue Dog Democrats met with President Barack Obama Tuesday, July 21, 2009, at the White House in Washington. Listening from left are, Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., left, Rep. Baron Hill, D-Ind., and Rep. Frank Pallone, D-N.J. Photo: AP

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    Moderate House Democrats and a key committee chairman emerged from a three-hour meeting at the White House on Tuesday with a tentative agreement to give an outside panel — rather than Congress — the power to make cuts to government-financed health care programs.

    OMB Director Peter Orszag called it “probably the most important piece that can be added” to the health care bill in the House, and the deal between the Blue Dog Coalition and House Energy and Commerce Committee
    Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) was the first positive development Democratic Party leaders could claim since the American Medical Association endorsed their bill last week.

    But the arcane-to-the-outside development is a pint-sized breakthrough in an ocean of concern. It’s also a concession to one subgroup — the Blue Dogs — that’s likely to inflame others.

    And set against the self-imposed August deadline for getting health care reform through both the House and the Senate, such a small-ball advance underscores the amount of work still to be done.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25244.html#ixzz0Lzt2j9xa

  51. arlenearmy says:

    Sami
    I think we are gonna watch that dvd tonite – The Patriot.

  52. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama’s game is deception and confusion. It important to keep everyone off balance and keep changing the subject. What scares me about him is I believe at some point out of desperation he will manufacture a crisis or allow one to happen so he can divert attention from himself and come out looking like a great leader. I believe he intends on being in the whitehouse for some time beyond 4 or even 8 years and he will do anyrthing to hold on to or gain more power. You can see whats going on in front of the camera but what’s more important to me is what’s going on behind the scenes. If that makes me a conspiricy theorist than so be it.

  53. samiam60 says:

    Arlene I think I will watch it too. Never thought I would live to see the day where we in America would fear our own leaders.

  54. tellitlikeitis says:

    Oh I forgot about kennedy. now I understand the urgency. Obama want to get this passed before Ted kicks the bucket. Now that’s a good reason to ruin our nations healthcare so commie ted gets to see his national healthcare dream come true.

  55. m2 says:

    Tellit, HRC has been a benefit of Soros… however Soros is not the traditional power-elite. The real power-elite are the ones in Europe. And Hillary has been of them for decades. The Bush’s too. McCain and Kerry. Most of our Presidents (except Reagan) have been beholden to the power-elite. They do not necessarily like Soros.

    And they do not necessarily like seeing the economy shrink by 5%, and their wealth deplete. There maybe be some factions at work behind the scenes to dethrone the Soros radicals, it may involve the Clintons…

    We don’t know, but time will tell.

  56. arlenearmy says:

    Congressional Budget Office says this wont save cost. Obama is pissed off at this report. He wants what he wants RIGHT NOW … dont read nothing. People realize that when it comes to their HEALTH, they draw the line. Folks will die from this Obama death plan.

    btw, it says that his approval rating is 55%. I don’t think his rating is that high.

  57. m2 says:

    and when I say “economy shrink by 5%” I’m talking Global Economy.

    However, Goldman Sachs is based in the UK, and their employees got 500,000 pound bonuses… Warren Buffet could be taken up with the radical power-elite. They could be symbiosis feeding off each other right now. But I suspect there will be a fracturing.

  58. arlenearmy says:

    tellit
    Obama is getting desperate MORESO everyday. He’s turning into a rabid dog. And he’s gonna bite somebody. This can turn dangerous.

  59. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Arlene…

    I have a theory that Obama is well informed on the Health Care Bill and pretends not to be… to cover his ass if necessary as in the video I show in the blogpost above… in conversation with a blogger he is trying to enlist to sell his snake oil.

    The blogger handed him his ass… and Obama pretended ignorance… I don’t buy it.

    arlenearmy says

    tellit
    I hear that Obama is very ILL informed on healthcare. I am in agreement w/Manning who called this a Obama Death Care

  60. m2 says:

    Arlene, what has Obama accomplished? Killed the economy in permanent stagnant quagmire, with rising unemployment and scared as hell business/entreprenuers, wasted 800 billion on political payouts instead of Stimulus. Got nothing from Russia, the EU, or India… Took over car and bank industries but is not making them better, and created a clusterf-ck of the Gitmo prison… is it closing? Is it not?

    There’s not much for the hopey-changey crowd to be that proud of.

    they got about 11 bucks extra in their checks until the end of the year, I guess.

  61. m2 says:

    Oh right and that new age of bipartisanship and post-racial governing…

    ***Bzzzt***

    There’s no bipartisan ship (“I won.”) and Nancy sending out emails to Dems not to talk to Repubs, and he expressly uses racial politics to divide and agitate.

  62. VotingFemale says:

    agreed… we are in uncharted Obama waters… he is not getting his way… and he is insisting that he does get his way… and the DEMs are digging in their heels against him with the GOP cheering them on…

    There has already been some real nastiness… I am thinking… what will Obama do next? Call ACORN and have some contracts released to have a few congressmen capped in the ass as examples to the rest?

    arlenearmy says

    tellit
    Obama is getting desperate MORESO everyday. He’s turning into a rabid dog. And he’s gonna bite somebody. This can turn dangerous.

  63. rosehips says:

    morning peeps. I’m back. I had a fantastic day yesterday. Thank you to everyone who sent wishes my way. It was an over-the top birthday.

    I think age is going to mellow me. If I appear to lose my edge, there is a reason. love is the answer….

  64. m2 says:

    I’m sure those Dems are being threatened as we type.

  65. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama is becoming like a little kid throwing a tantrum after mommy said no. He has been given the red carpet treatment and a pass for so long he can’t handle any serious resistance.

  66. tellitlikeitis says:

    good morning rose, I’m glad you had a great birthday.

  67. arlenearmy says:

    VF
    Obama’s response made him look like a dummy & it also makes folks think that the blue dog democrats & republicans made the wiser choice in trying to slow this down.

  68. VotingFemale says:

    Happy to hear you had a great BD, dear!

    Mellow is a nice thing to be…

    rosehips says

    morning peeps. I’m back. I had a fantastic day yesterday. Thank you to everyone who sent wishes my way. It was an over-the top birthday.

    I think age is going to mellow me. If I appear to lose my edge, there is a reason. love is the answer….

  69. tellitlikeitis says:

    Vf, I ‘m sure he will leave no stone unturned to get the votes. The usual criminal stuff , like threats,blackmail, intimidation,etc. He comes from the land of al capone the windy city of corruption.

  70. VotingFemale says:

    damn straight Arlene!

    Obama is pushing to ram rod this through knowing full well… if he does not… once it is understood and public knowledge… it has no chance.

    Same with Cap & Trade and any further “Stimulus” Bills…

    He had a short honeymoon window… and it has closed for the most part.

    arlenearmy says

    VF
    Obama’s response made him look like a dummy & it also makes folks think that the blue dog democrats & republicans made the wiser choice in trying to slow this down.

  71. m2 says:

    Glad you had a good Birthday rosehips! It’s nice to feel special for a day and not be guilty for it!

    Tellit, remember didn’t they fly some Dem in from intensive care to squeeze his vote?

    I think we should fire everyone in congress and choose names out of the phone book. Whoever said that 1x was right on.

  72. m2 says:

    Did you guys see Frank Lutz last night?

    He said, “A woman with a sick child that needs medical attention right now or an operation and cannot get it- that is a crisis.”

  73. tellitlikeitis says:

    Rosehips said: If I appear to lose my edge, there is a reason. love is the answer….

    Did you meet a special friend on your birthday yesterday? I’m not trying to be nosey just curious.

  74. VotingFemale says:

    It is what Obama refers to as…

    “Using the Full Force of The Presidency”

    he has a track record of intimidation that goes beyond the pale… and now? Too many people are standing up for themselves… he cant bully us all.

    tellitlikeitis says

    Vf, I ‘m sure he will leave no stone unturned to get the votes. The usual criminal stuff , like threats,blackmail, intimidation,etc. He comes from the land of al capone the windy city of corruption.

  75. m2 says:

    CBO numbers say half of those uninsured have the monetary funds to buy insurance but they don’t. No wonder Obama dislikes the CBO. They don’t have progressive groups foot in tainting the facts…

    LOL !

  76. tellitlikeitis says:

    M2, It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama bussed a whole childrens cancer ward up to capital hill to get the votes he wants.

  77. arlenearmy says:

    Obama ORDERED CBO director to meet w/him behind close doors is out of line. So Bob Beckle is full of shit. What the hell is wrong w/Bob. Im beginning to question his judgment.

  78. VotingFemale says:

    USA Today interviewed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California on paying for the bill: “‘If the Senate comes up with a potpourri of further cuts or other sources of revenue that don’t hurt the middle class, then that’s something we should all be looking at. But this (reform) is going to happen. And those who oppose it are mainly just opposed to health care,'” Pelosi said (Interview with editorial board, 7/21).

  79. m2 says:

    well Frankie was saying that there is a trumped crisis in healthcare (spewed by Obama), all we need is reform, but his bill will make a real crisis where people who need immediate attention will be denied…

  80. m2 says:

    Pelosi will have to reconcile with herself when she accounts for her deeds in life. That is all I have to say about her. Best of luck to that angry witch.

  81. tellitlikeitis says:

    I hope he has enough of a history now that people realise he will thrown anyone under the bus thats not onboard with him.

  82. VotingFemale says:

    Health-Care Deadline a Double-Edged Sword for Obama

    By Ben Pershing
    Speaking in the Rose Garden Tuesday, President Obama demanded “action over inaction” on health-care reform. But does that action have to happen by Aug. 7?

    As Obama himself has said, without deadlines, “nothing gets done in this town.” Absent the urgency of a defined timeframe, the House and Senate could well have punted on health care by now. But at the same time, the White House’s insistence on a deadline has helped fuel the current, widespread storyline that the reform effort is struggling. Is it true that health care reform is further along on the Hill than it has been in decades? Yes, but that’s not the barometer the administration has established for itself. Because Obama has imposed a deadline and stuck to it publicly, it will look like a setback for him if and when Congress fails to meet it. Obama holds a press conference tonight at 8 p.m. ET, and both foes and allies will be watching to see if he starts laying the groundwork for an extension of the deadline.

    That debate over timing arises as yet another day dawns dominated by Democratic divisions on health care. The Senate Finance Committee, at least, believes it can finish a bill before Obama’s deadline. In the House, Henry Waxman struck a deal Tuesday with the Blue Dogs on giving an outside panel the authority to cut government health-care costs, though Politico calls the agreement “a pint-sized breakthrough in an ocean of concern” and “a concession to one subgroup … that’s likely to inflame others.” The New York Times goes big-picture, saying Obama is at a “pivotal moment,” as his handling of health care “over the next several weeks could shape the rest of his presidency, shedding light on his political strength, his relationship with both parties in Congress and his appetite to fight for his own agenda.” Is that all?

    from: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/07/22/health-care_deadline_a_double-.html?wprss=44

  83. VotingFemale says:

    Obama woos Dems on his health plan

    BY Michael Mcauliff
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

    Wednesday, July 22nd 2009, 4:00 AM

    WASHINGTON – President Obama chastised opponents of his health care overhaul as political opportunists Tuesday – and then hauled balky Democrats into his office to twist their arms.

    “It’s a familiar Washington script,” Obama said in the White House Rose Garden before sitting down with conservative “Blue Dog” Democrats in hopes of getting a plan by next month.

    “These opponents of reform would rather score political points than offer relief to Americans. They would maintain a system that works for the insurance and the drug companies while becoming increasingly unaffordable for families and businesses.”

    Blue Dog health care point man Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.) emerged from his meeting with Obama after more than an hour. He professed agreement with the President’s main goals but said no deals were reached on “about 10 issues that we’re concerned with.”

    The biggie is raising taxes, as proposed by House leaders.

    “There’s a number of potential cost-cutting measures which I think the American people expect before we consider any kind of new revenue,” Ross said. “That’s what we’re demanding.”

    Some Republicans have crowed that if they can stall health care reform, they can kill it – and cripple Obama.

    A Gallup/USA Today poll yesterday suggested they may be on to something.

    The survey found that Americans disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care 50% to 44%. Among crucial independent voters, the margin is a glaring 55% to 40%.

    House Minority Whip Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) argued it’s not just the GOP blocking Obama. “A bipartisan majority has formed against the current proposal,” he said, but he agreed the next couple of weeks are crucial.

    “There is no question – we are at a crossroads. … Either this bill fails, or it will change dramatically,” he said.

    from: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/22/2009-07-22_obama_woos_dems_on_his_health_plan.html#ixzz0M04cE9UE

  84. m2 says:

    Support for Republican congressional candidates has reached its highest level in over two years as the GOP lengthens its lead over Democrats in the latest edition of the Generic Ballot.

    Elections have consequences…

  85. SamHenry says:

    Just a final comment about someone distancing themselves from Obama – one that knows him best – Michelle. We don’t hear about her quite so much; when they deplaned from the helicopter after Camp David this past weekend, the girls came with Dad and Michelle was many steps behind. Now unless she has morning sickness she may have mourning sickness. Off to lunch with a pal. Back later.

    Dog jumps happily into drink and swims ashore.

  86. VotingFemale says:

    President Obama Uses Magnetism, Political Capital to Push Health Care Bill
    Swaying public opinion would go a long way toward convincing resistant lawmakers that a massive health care reform bill is vital and needed immediately. The task could be a heavy lift for the president, who so far is getting little love from either voters or Congress.

    President Obama is spending his considerable political capital and using his personal magnetism Wednesday in a prime-time appeal to Americans on the virtues of the 10-year, $1 trillion-plus health care reform package big-footing its way through Congress.

    Swaying public opinion would go a long way toward convincing resistant lawmakers that a massive health care reform bill is vital and needed immediately. The task could be a heavy lift for the president, who so far is getting little love from either voters or Congress.

    Causes for hesitation include, among other issues, the massive price tag, the number of people covered, the elimination of insurance options, the fear of long lines and inability to access physicians, the increase in taxes to pay for it and concern that the 1,000-page bill is not being vetted enough as it is moves quickly through Congress.

    Previewing his 8 p.m. ET press conference, the president told CBS in an interview that aired Tuesday morning that the country needs a reform bill immediately to stem the rising costs of health care. He defended himself against claims that the bill is being hustled through without proper consideration.

    “We’ve been studying this ad infinitum. Starting in November after my election, a lot of members of Congress, including the chairman of the Finance Committee, Max Baucus, started meeting and working through ideas,” Obama said. “So we’ve actually been working on this for a good solid nine months now.”

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., vowed weeks ago that the House would vote by the end of July on the legislation to meet the goals established by Obama months ago. Still, the pace of movement is concerning both Democrats and Republicans alike.

    “No one wants to tell the speaker that she’s moving too fast and they damn sure don’t want to tell the president,” Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a key committee chairman, told a fellow lawmaker as the two walked into a closed-door meeting on Tuesday. The remark was overheard by reporters.

    “If we don’t put the brakes on the president, he’s going to break our country right now,” Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., told FOX News. “And the last time we let him ram something through Congress, we ended up with this catastrophic stimulus failure that’s hurting our jobs and mortgaging our future. And now he’s trying to push this trillion-dollar health care bill through in two weeks, before we go home on the August break. And we’ve got to slow him down.”

    Adding to the suspicions about the bill are reports of a meeting held at the White House with a group that included Congressional Budget Office Director Dougles Elmendorf, who upset Democratic supporters of the plan by putting the $1 trillion-plus price tag on it, sending shock waves through Washington and beyond.

    It’s very unusual for the CBO director, who is appointed by the majority party to serve as the official numbers cruncher, to go to the White House, and Elmendorf’s visit raised questions about whether he was being pressured to revise his dire analysis.

    A White House spokesman said that Elmendorf was invited to be one of the participants at the meeting because he, like the president, is serious about bringing down costs.

    “If someone thinks it’s inappropriate for the president to meet with the CBO director, that’s unfortunate,” White House spokesman Reid Cherlin told FOX News.

    Elmendorf added on his Web log that he offered to the president a personal briefing of the contents of his analysis and the same testimony he gave Congress, but would not be swayed by a personal meeting with Obama.

    “People have asked whether it was exciting to meet the president and be in the Oval Office: Yes, and my kids will be jealous when they get back from summer camp and hear about it,” Elmendorf wrote.

    “Of course, the setting of the conversation and the nature of the participants do not affect CBO’s analysis of health reform legislation. We will continue to work with members of Congress and their staffs, on both sides of the aisle, to provide cost estimates and other information as health reform legislation is considered,” he added.

    Problematic for many lawmakers is the claim that the legislation will not swell the enormous current deficit, a charge that was further doubted after a senior administration official told reporters Tuesday that the pledge to be “deficit neutral” does not apply to an estimated $245 billion to increase fees for doctors serving Medicare patients over the next decade.

    Trying to rein in Medicare costs is a major challenge. In 1966, the year Medicare became law, the cost was $3 billion and estimated to be $12 billion by 1990. Actual cost in 1990 for Medicare was $107 billion. In 2007, Medicare spent $468 billion on prescription drugs, hospital care and physician services.

    The Medicare account is now projected to spend more than it gets in revenues in 2017.

    Backers insist that savings will be realized in other areas, for instance, by Americans becoming healthier and spending less on doctors visits and because emergency rooms won’t be used for primary care.

    “There (are) efforts to invest in wellness, to go after fraud and abuse, which we know is a huge
    part of the system with people stealing money away from our senior citizens and our most
    vulnerable citizens,” Health and Human Service Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told FOX News.

    Sebelius said the differences that divide lawmakers and competing legislation are not as big as they seem. Among the five bills being ushered through the House and Senate, all share “common ground that everyone would be covered, that we would provide a new marketplace for those that don’t have coverage or coverage they can’t afford to have some choices and have some cost competition.”

    “No one is going to be forced to lose their private coverage. That’s just an incorrect assertion and assumption,” Sebelius added.

    But still bothering GOP lawmakers are measures to include 5.6 million illegal aliens among those covered as well as the refusal to cap medical malpractice awards.

    “Taxpaying families, already weighed down by bailouts and massive spending bills, cannot afford to pay for health insurance for millions of illegal aliens,” said Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. “It is wrong to reward law breakers. The American people are speaking loud and clear and saying, ‘No health care for illegal aliens.'”

    “There is something fundamentally wrong with America when it is easier to sue a doctor than see a doctor,” said Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas.

    Each year, $30 billion is awarded to victims of medical malpractice. Obama has said he does not support caps on awards.

    “There are bad doctors out there, but the answer is not frivolous lawsuits, and it’s not these incredible liability costs imposed on all of us, it’s take their licenses away. That’s what you do with bad doctors,” Hensarling said, noting that many doctors order a battery of unnecessary tests to protect themselves from a lawsuit, further driving up the prices of health care.

  87. rosehips says:

    maybe Obama proposed this plan knowing it would be rejected. It really is just a compromise plan no? I think maybe he’ll come back with a universal health plan proposal. It’s really what many health professionals know is what we need. If you filter out the mis-information, you will see it is the best alternative where no alternative is ideal. Most people know we need to reform health care in some way. Ignoring the flaws is just too difficult. Does anyone think that the system that forces people to go to emergency rooms for non-emergencies doesn’t need to be changed?

    When I heard Obama say that parents shouldn’t have to go to the emergency room if their child has a sore throat, it really made me think about what we expect from our medical professions. I think too many people run to the doctor every time they have a frickin’ tickle in their throat. Maybe people overuse the system? There are a lot of home remedies you can use without running out and getting a prescription.

    My ireport the other day on parasite therapy shows that our society has created many health problems by our obsession with killing germs and bacteria. Countries where hookworm is common have virtually no allergies or asthma, colitis, Crohn’s disease, psoriasis and other immune disorders. I find this intriguing and encouraging. Think of all the money going to treat asthmatics. What if our immune systems worked properly and treated our bodies natually? what an idea to lower costs. But I guess all the allergists would have hissy fits. We will never have a system where everyone is happy.

  88. VotingFemale says:

    I call it Obamatism

  89. m2 says:

    There are more Americans who love their home than their are un-American radicals who want to change this nation to their (throughout history) vision of Socialism and stagnating nanny-state.

    Huzzah for the bipartisan Dems, and Independents!!

  90. tellitlikeitis says:

    Maybe the urgency is due to a dying Ted Kennedy. Maybe he is trying to rush this through before teddy kicks the bucket. Teddy is one his greatest socialist supporters and universal health care is one of his greatest passions. Maybe Obama wants ted to leave this world with a big smile on his face knowing that he screwd america good with government health care.

  91. m2 says:

    Reforming healthcare doesn’t mean putting everyone on the government dole and ignoring the facts presented by CBO!

    Obama is just a straight up LIAAHHH!!!

    and this bill is all Democrat written, rosie.

  92. m2 says:

    That’s so funny ain’t it Tellit? Considering Teddy is living this long due to his bells and whistles cadillac plan paid for by us, for “congress” only.

    Ironic!

  93. VotingFemale says:

    Rose… everyone pretty much agrees that the cost of health care is out of line…

    The answer is not Government run single payer health care. That is even more expensive and less effective that the present cost of medical care.

    The hype is clear… and so are the motives…
    it is a Socialist Takeover.

  94. m2 says:

    He’s getting the most innovative operations and drugs to keep him from seizing and shrink his tumor. Thanks to non-public plan.

  95. VotingFemale says:

    I wish LisainTX was around…

  96. m2 says:

    VF, and that is why his poll numbers are declining. This is the straw to break the camels back. Obummer may not like it, but I think that “Waterloo” analogy is spot-on.

    VF says: The answer is not Government run single payer health care. That is even more expensive and less effective that the present cost of medical care.

    The hype is clear… and so are the motives…
    it is a Socialist Takeover.

  97. m2 says:

    Off to take care of house-ly duties! Talk to all soon!

  98. rosehips says:

    I realize Bill Moyers is an ultra liberal commie socialist but the guy he interviews is a former insurance exec and has some very insightful things to say about our system. This is the first part of the interview. I saw an ireport with the whole interview. It’s long, but like I said, very insightful. I’ll post that link too.

  99. samiam60 says:

    No matter how you cut the cake we have a President who has lost credibility and may or may not be a US citizen. We have a military who is unsure if should obey his orders and a democratic party letting go of his coat tails. In hindsight I must say I have never seen an American President go down the tubes in just 6 months. I believe we are witnessing history being made and the beginning of the end for this ill qualified Commander and Theif.

  100. rosehips says:

    vf, how is universal more expensive and inefficient?

    also the insurance guy reveals how Michael Moore and his Sicko film were targeted and discredited. A lot of money was spent to portray sicko as a piece of crap. Thing is, it wasn’t.

  101. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2, you see people like teddy don’t need insurance. They get a hospital bill for 220 grand or even a million dollars it’s no problem for them just pull out the checkbook and pay it in full.

  102. rosehips says:

    here’s the whole interview. It really is worth watching to hear what this ex insurance guy has to say. It’s hard to dispute a guy who was part of the problem and had an epiffany.

    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-301089

  103. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2 , Teddy is a goner. You don’t beat brain cancer you just survive it for awhile with chemo and other drugs.

  104. samiam60 says:

    Tellit although Kennedy could write that check people like him get rich off of other peoples money. Or just happen to have a Dad who was a Rum runner. lol

  105. rosehips says:

    and here’s a recent post by sintheesize, one of my favorite ireporters. She is calling for the end to misinformation on Canadian health care. Many Canadians that come here for treatment are not paying out of pocket. They have insurance that covers care in the US.

    As an American living in Canada, I think she gives a valid and credible perspective.
    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-301703

  106. samiam60 says:

    Here you can continue to believe this too:

  107. samiam60 says:

    It sucks if you believed the lies.

  108. samiam60 says:

    The “TRUTH” just won’t go away, will it?

  109. tellitlikeitis says:

    Some Sarah Palin news.

    Palin to feds: Alaska is sovereign state
    Constitutional rights reasserted in growing resistance to Washington

    By Chelsea Schilling
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

    Gov. Sarah Palin has signed a joint resolution declaring Alaska’s sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution – and now 36 other states have introduced similar resolutions as part of a growing resistance to the federal government.

    Just weeks before she plans to step down from her position as Alaska governor, Palin signed House Joint Resolution 27, sponsored by state Rep. Mike Kelly on July 10, according to a Tenth Amendment Center report. The resolution “claims sovereignty for the state under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.”

    Alaska’s House passed HJR 27 by a vote of 37-0, and the Senate passed it by a vote of 40-0.

    According to the report, the joint resolution does not carry with it the force of law, but supporters say it is a significant move toward getting their message out to other lawmakers, the media and grassroots movements.

    Alaska’s resolution states:

    Be it resolved that the Alaska State Legislature hereby claims sovereignty for the state under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
    Be it further resolved that this resolution serves as Notice and Demand to the federal government to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

    While seven states – Tennessee, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Alaska and Louisiana – have had both houses of their legislatures pass similar decrees, Alaska Gov. Palin and Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen are currently the only governors to have signed their states’ sovereignty resolutions.

    The resolutions all address the Tenth Amendment that says: “powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

  110. samiam60 says:

    Tellitlikeitis this is a great move by Alaska with overwelming support.

    I found this statement in it very interesting:

    Be it resolved that the Alaska State Legislature hereby claims sovereignty for the state under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
    Be it further resolved that this resolution serves as Notice and Demand to the federal government to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

  111. samiam60 says:

    WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

    Be it further resolved that this resolution serves as Notice and Demand to the federal government to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

  112. tellitlikeitis says:

  113. samiam60 says:

    CNN is reporting that some Democrats are Frustrated and baffled by the LACK of information Obanna has on his own health care bill.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/health.reform/index.html

  114. samiam60 says:

    Great video Tellit, keep em coming cause there is enough of em out there now to run them non-stop.
    Obama you are so Exposed !!!!!

  115. samiam60 says:

    White House hiding Health Care meeting.
    So much for Transparency Mr. President.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-healthcare-talks22-2009jul22,0,1752248.story

  116. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hey guys, listen to this. scary.

  117. tellitlikeitis says:

    You guys have to watch this. This is really scary!

  118. tellitlikeitis says:

    More trouble for Sarah.
    Investigator rules against Palin in ethics probe
    By RACHEL D’ORO, AP
    5 hours ago

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Days before Gov. Sarah Palin is scheduled to leave office, the former vice presidential candidate is facing yet another legal distraction: An independent investigator found evidence she may have violated ethics laws by trading on her position as she sought money for lawyer fees.

    A report obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press says Palin is securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust, set up by supporters.

    An investigator for the state personnel board says in the July 14 report that there is probable cause to believe Palin used or attempted to use her official position for personal gain because she authorized the creation of the Alaska Fund Trust as the “official” legal defense fund.

    The practical effect of the ruling on Palin will be more financial than anything else, although the fate of the tens of thousands of dollars in the fund is unclear, said Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein. The report recommends that the complaint be resolved without a formal hearing before the board. That allows her to resolve the issue without a formal ethics reprimand.

    Palin posted an entry on Twitter in which she said the “matter is still pending,” a statement echoed by Van Flein.

    The fund aims to help Palin pay off debts stemming from multiple ethics complaints against her, most of which have been dismissed. Palin says she owes more than $500,000 in legal fees, and she cited the toll of the ethics probes as one of the reasons she is leaving office on Sunday.

  119. rosehips says:

    Obama defends his jeans.

  120. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is good.

  121. m2 says:

    • By 52 percent to 40 percent, voters are opposed to the healthcare bill introduced on July 14 to the House of Representatives.

    • Independents now oppose ObamaCare by a ratio of almost 2:1.

    • The World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients’ needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors. Among those currently insured, 84% are satisfied with their healthcare. But if you’re happy, don’t get too comfortable: ObamaCare will force people to change their insurance.

    • The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says that the bill proposed by House Democrats would increase the federal deficit by $239 billion.

    • Team Obama says the CBO has failed to account for plans to reduce waste and cut services. Unfortunately, reducing waste would account for only about 1% of ObamaCare “savings.” Any other potential savings would have to come from reductions in patient care services.

    • In its “keep the plan deficit-neutral” charade, the Obama Administration indicates that it is counting on reductions in patient care in the form of cuts to the Medicare health program for the elderly. However, the American Medical Association, in its controversial letter of support for the Democrats’ plan, thanks House leaders for repealing $230 billion of Medicare cuts.

    • Team Obama is also counting on savings from prevention initiatives. Legislation pushed by Senate Democrats mentions “prevention” repeatedly. But as the CBO has repeatedly pointed out, prevention doesn’t generally save money.

    • Obama tells us he wants a public plan comparable to the Federal Employees’ Health Benefits Plan Congress enjoys. This notion is a farce. Congress has a high-choice cafeteria plan that is indeed paid for by the public, but it is not run by the government.

    • Congress enjoys very special perks the rest of us can only dream about. There is an attending physician on call exclusively for members of Congress, and Congress enjoys VIP access and admission to Walter Reed Army Medical Center and Bethesda Naval Medical Center. Is Congress going to provide us with VIP treatment?

    • ObamaCare will implement an oppressive health care bureaucracy with eye-popping complexity that would make Rube Goldberg’s head spin.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/obamacare_is_a_sick_joke.html

  122. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is worth reading.

    Fiscal ruin of the Western world beckons
    For a glimpse of what awaits Britain, Europe, and America as budget deficits spiral to war-time levels, look at what is happening to the Irish welfare state.

    By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
    Published: 5:40PM BST 18 Jul 2009

    Comments 249 | Comment on this article

    Events have already forced Premier Brian Cowen to carry out the harshest assault yet seen on the public services of a modern Western state. He has passed two emergency budgets to stop the deficit soaring to 15pc of GDP. They have not been enough. The expert An Bord Snip report said last week that Dublin must cut deeper, or risk a disastrous debt compound trap.

    A further 17,000 state jobs must go (equal to 1.25m in the US), though unemployment is already 12pc and heading for 16pc next year.

    Britain’s prized AAA rating under threat as S&P issues stark warningEducation must be cut 8pc. Scores of rural schools must close, and 6,900 teachers must go. “The attacks outlined in this report would represent an education disaster and light a short fuse on a social timebomb”, said the Teachers Union of Ireland.

    Nobody is spared. Social welfare payments must be cut 5pc, child benefit by 20pc. The Garda (police), already smarting from a 7pc pay cut, may have to buy their own uniforms. Hospital visits could cost £107 a day, etc, etc.

    “Something has to give,” said Professor Colm McCarthy, the report’s author. “We’re borrowing €400m (£345m) a week at a penalty interest.”

    No doubt Ireland has been the victim of a savagely tight monetary policy – given its specific needs. But the deeper truth is that Britain, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, the US, and Japan are in varying states of fiscal ruin, and those tipping into demographic decline (unlike young Ireland) have an underlying cancer that is even more deadly. The West cannot support its gold-plated state structures from an aging workforce and depleted tax base.

    As the International Monetary Fund made clear last week, Britain is lucky that markets have not yet imposed a “penalty interest” on British Gilts, given the trajectory of UK national debt – now vaulting towards 100pc of GDP – and the scandalous refusal of this Government to map out any path back to solvency.

    “The UK has been getting the benefit of the doubt, both in the Government bond market and also the foreign exchange market. This benefit of the doubt is not going to last forever,” said the Fund.

    France and Italy have been less abject, but they began with higher borrowing needs. Italy’s debt is expected to reach the danger level of 120pc next year, according to leaked Treasury documents. France’s debt will near 90pc next year if President Nicolas Sarkozy goes ahead with his “Grand Emprunt”, a fiscal blitz masquerading as investment.

    There was a case for an emergency boost last winter to cushion the blow as global industry crashed. That moment has passed. While I agree with Nomura’s Richard Koo that the US, Britain, and Europe risk a deflationary slump along the lines of Japan’s Lost Decade (two decades really), I am ever more wary of his calls for Keynesian spending a l’outrance.

    Such policies have crippled Japan. A string of make-work stimulus plans – famously building bridges to nowhere in Hokkaido – has ensured that the day of reckoning will be worse, when it comes. The IMF says Japan’s gross public debt will reach 240pc of GDP by 2014 – beyond the point of recovery for a nation with a contracting workforce. Sooner or later, Japan’s bond market will blow up.

    Error One was to permit a bubble in the 1980s. Error Two was to wait a decade before opting for monetary “shock and awe” through quantitative easing.

    The US Federal Reserve has moved faster but already seems to think the job is done. “Quantitative tightening” has begun. Its balance sheet has contracted by almost $200bn (£122bn) from the peak. The M2 money supply has stagnated since January. The Fed is talking of “exit strategies”.

    Is this a replay of mid-2008 when the Fed lost its nerve, bristling over criticism that it had cut rates too low (then 2pc)? Remember what happened. Fed hawks in Dallas, St Louis, and Atlanta talked of rate rises. That had consequences. Markets tightened in anticipation, and arguably triggered the collapse of Lehman Brothers, AIG, Fannie and Freddie that Autumn.

    The Fed’s doctrine – New Keynesian Synthesis – has let it down time and again in this long saga, and there is scant evidence that Fed officials recognise the fact. As for the European Central Bank, it has let private loan growth contract this summer.

    The imperative for the debt-bloated West is to cut spending systematically for year after year, off-setting the deflationary effect with monetary stimulus. This is the only mix that can save us.

    My awful fear is that we will do exactly the opposite, incubating yet another crisis this autumn, to which we will respond with yet further spending. This is the road to ruin.

  123. tellitlikeitis says:

  124. tellitlikeitis says:

  125. karmahd says:

    Telit “we have rescued the economy” WTF?? I guess if Rham and Boma say they have everyone must believe them!! Chicago politics once again. How stupid do they think we are???

  126. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hey karma , lol, check out the boehner videos. He should run for president.

  127. tellitlikeitis says:

    White House declines to disclose visits by health industry executives

    Citing an argument used by the Bush administration, the Secret Service rejects a request from a watchdog group to list those who have visited the White House to discuss the healthcare overhaul.
    By Peter Nicholas
    July 22, 2009
    Reporting from Washington — Invoking an argument used by President George W. Bush, the Obama administration has turned down a request from a watchdog group for a list of health industry executives who have visited the White House to discuss the massive healthcare overhaul.

    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sent a letter to the Secret Service asking about visits from 18 executives representing health insurers, drug makers, doctors and other players in the debate. The group wants the material in order to gauge the influence of those executives in crafting a new healthcare policy.

    The Secret Service sent a reply stating that documents revealing the frequency of such visits were considered presidential records exempt from public disclosure laws. The agency also said it was advised by the Justice Department that the Secret Service was within its rights to withhold the information because of the “presidential communications privilege.”

    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics said it would file suit against the Obama administration as early as today. The group already has sued the administration over its failure to release details about visits from coal industry executives.

    A White House spokesman, Ben LaBolt, said, “We are reviewing our policy on access to visitor logs and related litigation.”

    As a candidate, President Obama vowed that in devising a healthcare bill he would invite in TV cameras — specifically C-SPAN — so that Americans could have a window into negotiations that normally play out behind closed doors.

    Having promised transparency, the administration should be willing to disclose who it is consulting in shaping healthcare policy, said an attorney for the citizens’ group. In its letter requesting the records, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics asked about visits from Billy Tauzin, president of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America; Karen Ignagni, president of America’s Health Insurance Plans; William Weldon, chairman and CEO of Johnson & Johnson; and J. James Rohack, president of the American Medical Assn., among others.

    “It’s extremely disappointing,” said Anne Weismann, the group’s chief counsel. Obama is relying on a legal argument that “continues one of the bad, anti-transparency, pro-secrecy approaches that the Bush administration had taken. And it seems completely at odds with the president’s commitment . . . to bring a new level of transparency to his government.”

    PhRMA, which represents the nation’s drug companies, said it had taken part in two meetings with senior White House officials in the Roosevelt Room. Participants, according to Tauzin, included White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, along with the CEOs of some major drug companies. Both meetings were closed to the public.

    In an interview, Tauzin said most of the “real negotiations” took place with the Senate Finance Committee. At its meetings with the White House, the drug industry reported on progress made with the Senate and got a briefing from Obama officials “about how they saw” healthcare reform unfolding, Tauzin said.

  128. m2 says:

    Bless John Boehner’s heart for he is a truth teller!

  129. tellitlikeitis says:

  130. rosehips says:

    m2,re: statistics from american thinker. if you google “WHO ranking health care”, the first link shows their latest ranking of all countries. The site states that WHO no longer ranks health care because of the complexities. no shi!t. Anyway, you can see from the rankings done in 2000 that the US ranked 37th overall for health care. So the ranking provided by AT is a bit mis-leading. No one disputes the quality of care and service. But the overall system needs to be scrutinized more carefully and we need some realistic suggestions. I haven’t heard anything coming from the right that isn’t a talking point or something based on bunk.
    Here’s the link to WHO rankings of health care:
    http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

    m2: from American Thinker
    • The World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients’ needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors. Among those currently insured, 84% are satisfied with their healthcare. But if you’re happy, don’t get too comfortable: ObamaCare will force people to change their insurance.

  131. tellitlikeitis says:

    The GOP should draft John Boehner for president for the 2012 election.

  132. Foxwood says:

    Universal Healthcare: ineffecient and expensive

    Government run universal healthcare = ineffeciency. Why? the first word “Government”. When has our government ever been effecient. Inefficiency is a widely accepted feature of almost all government-run entities. Nuff said, but when you add in the cost of using a huge entity like the IRS to actually collect the money for govt healthcare, which is usually not factored in with the other costs of govt run systems, govt enterprise is woefully inefficient.

    Expensive? A study published by the Pacific Research Institute, shows four decades of government-run health care and that it has risen far more than the costs of private care. The study compares the cost increases of Medicare and Medicaid with those of all other health care in the United States. Since 1970, Medicare and Medicaid’s costs have risen one-third more, per patient, than the combined costs of all other health care in America the vast majority of which is purchased privately.

    Since 1970, Medicare and Medicaid’s combined per-patient costs have risen from $344 to $8,955, while the combined per-patient costs of all other US health care have risen from $364 to $7,119. Medicare and Medicaid used to cost $20 less per patient than other care. Now they cost $1,836 more. And that’s even without the Medicare prescription-drug benefit.

  133. tellitlikeitis says:

    I posted a lot of stuff here lately. I hope nobody’s getting information overload. lol

  134. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood , watch the boehner vids I posted. Thsi guy tells it like it is. lol

  135. m2 says:

    you mean accd. to the NYP who AT took the story from:
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/07172009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_broken_promises_179667.htm

    They have good reason to be. If you’re diagnosed with cancer, you have a better chance of surviving it in the United States than anywhere else, according to the Concord Five Continent Study. And the World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients’ needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors

  136. m2 says:

    Does that make the NYP liars?

    Obama is the liar.
    This bill is bad.

  137. m2 says:

    No healthcare rationing!

    No ending my parents lives b/c a bureaucrat mandates it!

    If the gov’t can deny you – it is not a “right”!

    NO OBAMACARE.

    It is his Waterloo. And he knows it.

  138. Foxwood says:

    Morning all.

    There is nothing good in this healthcare plan. Again, where is it in the Constitution that there is a right to healthcare.

  139. m2 says:

    They will have the power to deny you service… that is not a “right”. A right is freedom, the right to free speech, the right to free religious practice.

    They are liars.

    and everything in that AT list is spot on. The bill sucks, and even Democrats know it.

    he he…

  140. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama is a liar. I knew that the first time I heard him open his mouth. Even his teleprompters dissrespect him now and commit suicide on stage.

  141. m2 says:

    the teleprompters have had enough! The lies are breaking them to pieces… lol

  142. tellitlikeitis says:

    I hope the democrats aren’t ready to fall on the sword for obama. I think they are mortified because they are watching this guy selfdestruct before their eyes.

  143. m2 says:

    liberalism needs conservatism to even exist.
    We prop the liberals up, like the US props up the free world.

    that’s the bandy truth, aye!

  144. tellitlikeitis says:

    Who do you think is a bigger liar? Bill Clinton or Obama?

  145. m2 says:

    OBAMA!

    Bill Clinton had sense, and patriotic duty.

  146. Foxwood says:

    If healthcare in Canada and Europe is so good, why do they come to our country for specialized medicine? Why to they wait in line for procedures? Why are people dying while waiting, or being denied, “because they are going to die anyway”?

    Obama has already said it in his own words when someone asked about his 105 year old mother and her pacemaker. It may be better to give her pain medicine than to take care of her problems. That is what universal healthcare will be about.

  147. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2 wrote, Bill Clinton had sense, and patriotic duty. Yes to monica lewinsky. She kept his pipe clean.

  148. Foxwood says:

    BRB, gotta shower.

  149. m2 says:

    He was a lib no doubt… and generally libs are like Bill Clinton, but Obama is un-american and radical… he is funded by a non-american socialist billionaire, need anyone say more?

  150. tellitlikeitis says:

    Yes foxwood , the pharmacuetical companies and pain management doctors will thrive under Obama’s health plan.

  151. rosehips says:

    america: #1 health care leader in health care costs. #1 in quality of care and lowest waiting time for procedures. #1 in many areas of specialization. But if we don’t figure out how to control costs, we will price everyone but the very wealthy out of the market for those specialized treatments.

    We are still 37th overall for healthcare. There is something to that. Why do you think we fall so far from the top?

  152. m2 says:

    According to the Census Bureau, of the 47 million, 38 percent (18 million) have personal incomes of more than $50,000 a year and can afford coverage, but choose not to get it.

    Of the remaining 29 million uninsured, 12.6 million are illegal immigrants. That leaves 16.4 million.

    Of that remaining 16.4 million uninsured, 8 million are under the age of 18. Since they are under 18 years of age, if the parents of these young ones can’t afford coverage, there are public insurance options available.

    So that leaves 8.4 million uninsured, less than 3 percent of the population. And if any of those 8.4 million are poor, they are eligible for Medicaid.

    ________
    reform the free private sector of choice, not fascist-tyranny of government takeover! Obama will fail…

    This is make or break for him and he’s only about 15% into his Presidency, with no previous experience in anything.

    he’s passed/created more legislation as President than as a Senator.

    Elections have consequences. Maybe next time Democrats won’t sell their party to a falsehood.

  153. m2 says:

    Who gives a crap! With Obamacare which has been roundly condemned by the experts and THE PEOPLE we’ll probably be 153rd in the list! Who gives a crap!! He doesn’t have the money to pass his fascist bill.

    Reform fine. Government fascism that denies people the right to choose. NO!

  154. tellitlikeitis says:

    The healthcare system needs repair but not a total overhaul.

  155. SamHenry says:

    I just saw the headline in the DemocratandChronicle Rochester’s Newspaper:

    Hope for Obama Dims

    It sounds as if he is in intensive care.

  156. m2 says:

    anyway… that’s right. If it’s so good why is congress on Private non-gov’t run plan.

    really, the debate ends at the lies, the deception of Obama, the congress not opting into the “universal” and keeping their “private”… there is no debate.

    Obamacare is over.

  157. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is just more of obama’s socialist expansion under the guise of healthcare reform.

  158. Foxwood says:

    “We are still 37th overall for healthcare. There is something to that. Why do you think we fall so far from the top?”

    Because it’s a lie.

  159. tellitlikeitis says:

    SH, check out the stuff I posted earlier.

  160. m2 says:

    SH, we are seeing him come un-hinged… guess he should have stuffed this in first, instead of paying out 800 bill to political payoffs.

    I’ve never seen a more disastrous start to a Presidency or a Presidency. He hasn’t done anything for anyone. Except dig us deeper into the craphole. I mean there is nothing he can be proud of! Nothing.

    Unless he’s proud of devastating the country ??

  161. tellitlikeitis says:

    I hope he becomes a lame duck president in his first term. He is well on his way to it.

  162. m2 says:

    Time to work. Laters.

  163. m2 says:

    that’s what I’m saying Tellit, this is the final blow. His credibility is gone.

    He could maybe save some face by being honest about this, but this will finish his leadership roll…

    No one will trust him.

  164. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2, That’s his goal to create confusion and dissaray.

  165. m2 says:

    roll -> role

  166. m2 says:

    Impeach Obama, create a job.

  167. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2, I am hoping he will lose all credibility but I is doing alot behind the scenes that will cause much damage.

  168. tellitlikeitis says:

    If the real truth comes out about his birth certificate he will be gone. If the democrats loook at him as damaged goods and he is no longer effective I believe they will throw him under the bus to save themselves. You are already seeing some of that now.

  169. m2 says:

    They always do, Tellit, those extreme fascist, leftist, what have you… always working behind the scenes because they are not honest or genuine enough to be good leaders.

  170. Foxwood says:

    Washington needs to do their homework first and then do a test runs before submitting bills, and let Washington be the lab.

    So for a healthcare bill, they research what Europe and Canada had f*cked up. Then if they still insist “we the people” have to have it, they must make it work in Washington first.

    You would see less bills from Washington it this were mandatory.

  171. m2 says:

    I believe you are right Tellit..

    and so does my dad. And my dad is generally always right.

    TTYL!

  172. Foxwood says:

    What health care boils down to is “gimme gimme gimme”. It’s class warfare pure and simple and Obummer and the Democraps goes with it because it furthers his agenda.

  173. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2 , you wrote this on rose’s b’day blog.

    hey you guys, Hannity said in the car that Obama told Left bloggers in a phone conf. that if he doesn’t get his bill passed, he will do it covertly, ie. subvert the system (our government system, ie. congress) in order to do it.

    How’s that for “the people”… huh?

    Dinner is done

    I believe it!!! Why let the congress get in the way of your personal ambitions.

  174. arlenearmy says:

    tellit said:
    “If the real truth comes out about his birth certificate he will be gone.”

    ——–

    Most folks feel Obama is not a natural born citizen. He does not pass the smell test. Most on the left are turning a blind eye to it. I also think EVERY senator & congressman knows this. Even military thinks he’s not legit.

    Dems in senate & congress use the birth certificate as black mail. So when Obama goes down, his REAL WATERLOO will be that birth certificate.

  175. tellitlikeitis says:

    CNN Poll: President’s approval on health care under 50 percent

    From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

    A new CNN Poll of Polls indicates that 47 percent of Americans approve of how President Obama is dealing with health care reform.
    WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hours before President Barack Obama holds a prime time news conference to push for health care reform, a new CNN Poll of Polls indicates that less than half the country approves of how he’s handling the issue.

    According to the CNN Poll of Polls, 47 percent approve of how the president’s dealing with health care reform, with 44 percent disapproving.

    The CNN Poll of Polls on health care was compiled and released on Wednesday. It’s an average of the three most recent national surveys to ask about Obama’s performance on health care: USA Today/Gallup (July 17-19); ABC/Washington Post (July 15-18) and CBS News (July 9-12).

    The ABC News/Washington Post poll, which was released Monday, indicates Obama still has a large advantage over Republicans on the issue. Fifty-four percent of those questioned say they trust Obama to do a better job handling health care than Republicans in Congress, with 34 percent putting more faith in congressional Republicans than the president.

  176. arlenearmy says:

    Tellit said in comment:
    “he will do it covertly, ie. subvert the system (our government system, ie. congress) in order to do it.”
    —————–

    What does that mean ? I know what subvert means, but I am trying to figure out the possible scenario.

  177. tellitlikeitis says:

    arlene, I believe it. He wouldn’t be fighting so hard against the court challenges if he had nothing to hide.

  178. Foxwood says:

    Tellit,
    The czars are a work around. When “we the people” get our way and the bills fail, Obummer has a back door. It bypassed the “separation of powers” laid out in the Constitution, and Obummer gets what he want’s anyway.

  179. tellitlikeitis says:

    Arlene, he will use executive orders and his non accountable czars to circumvent the congress. If he can create a situation to cause civil unrest on a large scale he can declare martial law suspend the constitution and become an instant dictator.

  180. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, I believe you just made my point. The czars are plan B.

  181. arlenearmy says:

    tellit
    this is how bad its getting on this birth certificate stuff. a liberal got caught stealing signs that protest the birth certificate. Now just imagine if you or I were wearing a t-shirt about this. No doubt we would have to defend ourselves because we would get physically assaulted.

  182. tellitlikeitis says:

    I am more afraid of the machine he has in place working behind the scenes to undermind this country. I still believe Obama is just a puppet taking orders form his democrat masters.

  183. tellitlikeitis says:

    arlene, I am perfectly capable of defending myself. If anyone attacks me the only way they will bring me down is with a gun.

  184. tellitlikeitis says:

    I don’t have a Obama birther t-shirt but I would like to find one.

  185. arlenearmy says:

    fox & tellit:
    that kind of subverting would be going too far. But I noticed somethings in the “sideline” news that suggests pockets of unrest & brewing.

    Look at what’s happening in Paris, TX. The black panthers & Nation of Islam seems to be making there rounds. And Obama KNOWS that all it takes is a little nudge & encouragement.

  186. arlenearmy says:

    tellit
    since the obama machine may get activated on us, i think that clarence thomas needs to come out & make some kind of statement on this birth certificate. somebody in high office needs to SAY SOMETHING .. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!

  187. Foxwood says:

    From the Mayo Clinic:

    Mayo Clinic’s reaction to House Tri-Committee bill
    July 16, 2009

    Although there are some positive provisions in the current House Tri-Committee bill – including insurance for all and payment reform demonstration projects – the proposed legislation misses the opportunity to help create higher-quality, more affordable health care for patients. In fact, it will do the opposite.

    In general, the proposals under discussion are not patient focused or results oriented. Lawmakers have failed to use a fundamental lever – a change in Medicare payment policy – to help drive necessary improvements in American health care. Unless legislators create payment systems that pay for good patient results at reasonable costs, the promise of transformation in American health care will wither. The real losers will be the citizens of the United States.

    In my words… IT’S A PIECE OF SH!T!

  188. tellitlikeitis says:

  189. samiam60 says:

    Arlene I enjoyed the video of the Liberal stealing the signs. I guess they don’t believe in Freedom of Speech either. They are running around acting like Hitlers goons did back in Germany. I imagine we will see a burning of the history books next.

  190. samiam60 says:

    THIS BARES REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN:

    Good Morning all. It is a new day and our journey together has seen great accomplishments to date. We are living in incredible times and these days Our words are as sharp as a two edged sword. Our Freedoms have been threatened and our resolve is firm. We shall not fade away but rather restore the Constitution and our Freedoms as the Founding Fathers had intended. The World Wide Web is now the Power of the People.
    Mr. Obama we are more than just a Cup of Tea.
    We are ” We The People”.

  191. SamHenry says:

    Hi all and Arlene at this hour – good deal!

    Tellit – I just read this that you posted and my question is: What happened to openness in Government?

    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sent a letter to the Secret Service asking about visits from 18 executives representing health insurers, drug makers, doctors and other players in the debate. The group wants the material in order to gauge the influence of those executives in crafting a new healthcare policy.

    The Secret Service sent a reply stating that documents revealing the frequency of such visits were considered presidential records exempt from public disclosure laws. The agency also said it was advised by the Justice Department that the Secret Service was within its rights to withhold the information because of the “presidential communications privilege.”

  192. samiam60 says:

    SamHenry President Bush did the same thing but it was for a real purpose. “National Security” Obama is using it for his corruption policies.

  193. SamHenry says:

    From the Washington Post 6 July 2009

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/05/AR2009070502770.html

    Familiar Players in Health Bill Lobbying
    Firms Are Enlisting Ex-Lawmakers, Aides
    Former House majority leader Richard K. Armey, left, is one of several ex-congressmen working on behalf of health-care companies as a Senate committee considers legislation. Armey represents a New Jersey pharmaceutical firm.
    Former House majority leader Richard K. Armey, left, is one of several ex-congressmen working on behalf of health-care companies as a Senate committee considers legislation. Armey represents a New Jersey pharmaceutical firm. (By Danny Johnston — Associated Press)

  194. tellitlikeitis says:

    SH, Openess in government dissapeared when Obama became president. The only transparency I can see it my ability to see though his lies and bullsh*t.

  195. SamHenry says:

    Tellit – I interrupt the proceedings to bring this news bulletin to us:

    Taco Bell Chihuahua Dies at 15
    Posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago in Business, Gossip | Share Share Newser

    (Newser Summary) – Gidget, the iconic chihuahua of Taco Bell ads, died of a stroke last night at 15, her trainer tells People. “She made so many people happy,” Sue Chipperton says. Largely retired, the canine spent most of her time basking in the sun and appearing in photo shoots, where she showed off her pep. “Gidget always knew where the camera was,” says Chipperton.

    Now here is a death that really makes me sorry. Great little being.

  196. tellitlikeitis says:

  197. tellitlikeitis says:

    poor Gidget. RIP Gidget!

  198. samiam60 says:

    At 2:29pm cnn announced a poll they took shows Obama’s approval ratings have dropped below 50
    to 47% on his Health Care Reform.
    Interesting cause he will be on TV tonight to try and sell this to an awakened American Public.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

  199. m2 says:

    here’s where Obama’s supposed-Bipartisan respect will lead us!

  200. m2 says:

    EXTRA EXTRA!

    so I had that link that samiam posted open in another tab, I just looked at it now and went to click on Comments and (there were 52 comments) and it went to a page that said “Not found”…

    I refreshed samiam’s page link and the story is GONE!!!!!!!

    LOOK AT THE FASCIST GOV’T AND WHAT THEY DO TO THE MEDIA!

  201. tellitlikeitis says:

    Conservative kiosk not allowed at mall

    CONCORD, N.C. — “Impeach Obama.”

    “Al Qaeda’s favorite days: 9/11/01 and 11/04/08.”

    “Work Harder. Obama needs the money.”

    The bumper stickers and posters sold at “Free Market Warrior” at Concord Mills are meant to be “biting,” the kiosk’s owner Loren Spivack said.

    At least one passerby found them racist and bigoted, and took time to tell the mall in a letter and a letter to the editor of the Charlotte Observer.

    Whatever your opinion, the fact is this: At the end of July, Free Market Warrior will not be allowed at Concord Mills Mall. The kiosk chain’s owner shared e-mail correspondence with NewsChannel 36 that explains that the mall management has decided that the items sold are not “neutral” enough. The lease will be allowed to expire July 31, 2009 without an option to renew.

    Spivack, who first leased the space this spring, says the decision came as a shock to him. He says mall management seemed pleased with the kiosk just a few weeks ago.

    “Nobody in that mall is selling anything from a conservative perspective. Plenty of people are selling things with a liberal perspective, with a pro-Obama perspective,” he said. “Given that we are in America and not North Korea, we probably should have some stuff on the other side.”

    Spivack says he is careful not to sell things that personally attack a politician and wants a fair exchange of ideas. “The material that I sell is about politics and ideas,” he told Newschannel 36. “It’s all legitimate criticism.”

    Concord Mills, owned by Simon Property Group, would not comment for this story, cited a policy against talking about tenant and landlord situations.

    Spivack says the company first contacted him about his lease after a letter to the editor appeared in the Charlotte Observer. The author, recent UNC-Charlotte graduate Jennifer Ibanez, wrote”

    “Free Market Warrior, a kiosk located adjacent to Bass Pro Shops, specializes in memorabilia embellished with pro-confederacy statements as well as those opposing both the government and President Obama. In addition, these products support ideas such as racisms, sexism, and even slavery. While freedom of speech is a Constitutional right it’s difficult not to believe that something just isn’t quite right here.

    “I find it appalling that Concord Mills, North Carolina’s #1 visitor attraction, would condone such a message to be portrayed by their vendors and can’t imagine how the outside visitors’ perceptions of North Carolinians have been skewed by such an establishment.

    “It’s hard to stay open-minded when such uncivilized and outdated ideas are endorsed on a daily basis. It’s 2009; please, let’s at least try to put this type of bigotry to an end.”

    Ibanez told NewsChannel 36 she was so offended, she wrote the mall as well. She says a friend of hers also wrote in. Both threatened not to return to Concord Mills.

    The owner of the mall group, Mel Simon, has been a generous contributor to Democratic causes and politicians, including Barack Obama. Spivack thinks the decision about his lease is political.

    “If they have decided to make their malls conservative/libertarian free zones, where those opinions can’t be expressed, I do think it’s their right to do that, but it’s our rights to publicize the fact that they are doing that,” he said.

    If the issue is about causing offense, he told us, the mall should police other stores. Spivack sent NewsChannel 36 pictures of several T-shirts and banners from novelty stores at the mall that were so crude we’ve chosen not to share them.

    “What I think the mall should have done if they thought that we were expressing one set of ideas and not another, is that they should have gotten another store to come in and sell their ideas,” he said. “I would’ve been all in favor of that. I would have helped them move in.”

  202. tellitlikeitis says:

    The Koreans know how to have a lively debate.

  203. rosehips says:

    m2, thanks for the laugh. that is the most subdued brawl I have ever seen in my life. lol. I always find it funny to see grown women fighting but when it is the gov’t, it’s hysterical. Those guys are such pussyweights. hahahaha

  204. samiam60 says:

    Oh really M2. It was only posted at 2:27 PM today and they pulled it because of Obama’s tv show tonight on Health Care. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

  205. m2 says:

    Rosehips.. I know it really was funny!!

    Sam, I am really upset!!

  206. m2 says:

    it’s still linked here samiam, they can’t get the google bots to move fast enough in scrubbing:
    http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=cnn+poll+obama+healthcare

  207. samiam60 says:

    M2 I just went to the homepage for CNN and clicked on the ticker link to the story Obama gets bad news, and a story about Pelosi is there in its place. So much for this Opaque Presidency.

  208. m2 says:

    was that the title of the story?

    “Obama gets bad news”?

  209. samiam60 says:

    IT’S GONE NOW M2 THEY GOT TO GOGGLE ALREADY.

  210. samiam60 says:

    It was something to that effect M2

  211. m2 says:

    Actually it’s still on Google, but they severed the story… so the joke is on them.

    AND I HAVE SCREENSHOTS.

  212. m2 says:

    meaning you can still see there was a story posted, but the link back to CNN shows they scrubbed the story. Of course they put that POS mind-control story about Pelosi up.

    So, was it 47 against 44 approve? Was that what the numbers were?

  213. m2 says:

    I have the screenshot of the Political page where it says Poll: Approval on Obama Healthcare Falls.

    and the screenshot of the Google link. That will be scrubbed when the bots move through in the next hour or so.

  214. samiam60 says:

    Yep I think it was 47% AGAINST AND 43 % in favor of it.

  215. m2 says:

    Interesting.

    I am appalled, but I’ve been saying the media controls the message for so long to see it in action is disgusting.

    I’m getting off the computer for now… talk to everyone later…

  216. samiam60 says:

    The number against the Health Care Reform bill seem to be escalating rapidly as more Americans cough up the Kool Aid and sip the Tea.

  217. m2 says:

    and who else uses media to control messaging:
    Chavez, Iran guy, No Ko, and Castro brothers.

  218. m2 says:

    just got back from an errand. Appears poll story is back. Probably edited… maybe the comments got to “conservative” and they had to scrub em!

  219. m2 says:

    is this HRC trying to warm people up to the idea of Obama having to be forced down?

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/22/clinton-biden-in-2016/

  220. m2 says:

    due to ineligibility?

    ha ha ha ha ha…

  221. arlenearmy says:

    Glenn Beck show was not long enough. Its getting real serious Folks….. Real serious !!!! His show cut off when he was talking about a black nationalist who is compared to Jeremiah Wright. I need to find that person’s name.

  222. samiam60 says:

    This will sound really crazy but I cannot shake this feeling that a foreign Power is pulling the puppet strings on Obama. Going back to the Clinton years and free trade with China to borrowing billions from China. My nightmare is this: Could our elected officials have sold out America for personal gain and guarantees from a Foreign Government promising them power and territory in exchange for the Surrender of the United States of America. Sounds like a movie made for TV but really how far fetched could this be given what we are now seeing first hand. In six short months our government has begun to disarm us and our military and is now bankrupting us and trying to put youth in asia in affect with this healthcare program.

    A chilling thought for sure and I have to say although this is far fetched I just don’t think I would be to surprised to see it happen.

  223. samiam60 says:

    I could go on and on with scenerios of this but I think you get the picture. A limited Nuclear strike for a cover and a immediate surrender. Hmmmm

  224. samiam60 says:

    Hope everybody likes Chow Mein.

  225. m2 says:

    def. a plausible theory samiam…

    and Arlene, I didn’t see Beck today but is sounds like he is talking about the “Green Czar” who is both a Communist and Black Nationalist.

  226. m2 says:

    The Green Czar/Communist/Black Nationalist was and maybe still is a blogger on Huff Po.

    His own bio says:

    Van Jones is working to combine solutions to America’s two biggest problems: social inequality and environmental destruction.

    I wasn’t aware that going “Green” meant “combining” “social inequality solutions”.

    WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE PEOPLE?

    … going out for the night, check in later.

  227. Foxwood says:

    Gimme, gimme, gimme… that’s all the “useful idiots” want. Healthcare is nothing more that class warfare.
    http://animal-farm.us/change/gimme-gimme-gimme-542

  228. ohiobelle says:

    Oh my god!!!! I get home and turn on the tv to hear we have another CZAR!!!! What in the hell is happening to us???

  229. Foxwood says:

    So Hillary’s been traveling in Thailand. I bet Bill wishes he could have gone. With stops at Phuket and Bangkok, Bill would have had a ball.

  230. ohiobelle says:

    I can’t wait to hear Rahm Emanuel say “Obama saved the economy”!! Is the recession over? If so, somebody should tell the banks!

  231. ohiobelle says:

    I bet Obama got tired of the vetting process so now he’ll appoint CZARS!!! THIS MAKES ME SICK!!

  232. ohiobelle says:

    I’ll be back… I better hurry up and feed my dogs before they file a friggen lawsuit against me!

  233. samiam60 says:

    ABC was covering a Town Hall meeting somewhere and I don’t know where but people were shouting WHERE IS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!! and the speaker there could not tone them down. It was over before I could get any more information. Perhaps it will be on ABC at 11 PM. Thats all I got out of it folks.

  234. arlenearmy says:

    Is it true that Obama is up to 3 packs of cigarettes a day?

    With the speech he’s gonna do tonite, I wonder if he’s gonna be sober… Not under the influence of substance. The stress is getting to him.

    Folks, not only observe his words tonite, look at his eyes & his body language.

  235. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, I believe this was the video… hmmm it appears somebody had the video removed.

  236. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio ….

    video removed ? it looks like I need to start downloading stuff before they start scrubbing down the net.

  237. ohiobelle says:

    WOW!! I guess all videos that question the anointed one will be pulled!!!

  238. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene, I think you’re right.

    This is just the beginning of Obama taking control of the internet.

  239. ohiobelle says:

    It’s no secret that Rahm “Socialist Pig” Emanuel had his communist bff’s at CNN ban the conservatives on iCry!

  240. samhenry says:

    Belle – how did you find this out – conference room?

  241. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene, I’ll be right back. I have to walk my dogs around the cul de sac before the sue me.

  242. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, I just saw your comment. I’ll be in the conference room.

  243. arlenearmy says:

    Hey y’all .. I wonder if they had the videos pulled showing BET’S Bob Johnson slamming Obama (during the campaign). That’s the one where he indicated that Obama’s on drugs. I recalled it going viral on youtube. Now, we got to hunt hard for that stuff.

    Folks, I truly feel that Jermiah Wright “God Dam America” sermons will be scrubbed next.

  244. samhenry says:

    Arlene – what site pulled the video you were discussing?

  245. samhenry says:

    Back later, Arlene – someone at the door and Barack coming on soon.

  246. samiam60 says:

    We might be next to get the axe if you know what I mean.

  247. arlenearmy says:

    SamHenry
    The video of Carnahan getting heckled appears to be snatched down off youtubes. Ohio just posted it herein (but youtube link indicate its been remove. So Im trying to run it down now.

    Also during the campaign, Bob Johnson of BET slammed Obama. That video went viral on youtubes at that time. Im having hard time hunting that down.

  248. arlenearmy says:

    SamI
    I hear yah … but I’m still under illusion that I’m living in the land of the free.

  249. SamHenry says:

    I’ back Arlene – thanks for the info.

    I am a genius. My point has been taken up by David Gergen:

    First, he does not yet have a fully formed health care plan to “sell” to the country. Ordinarily, a president trying to persuade the public on a contentious issue has a firm plan to present in prime time. But the nature of the process in health care has meant that five different Congressional committees are working on ideas — and two of the most influential have not even reported yet on their recommendations.

  250. SamHenry says:

    See all of you tomorrow. I have a lot to do before bed – if I can find it.

  251. arlenearmy says:

    thanks, Karma

    pc working so hard that its making winding noise. but its moving as fast as it can. trying to scarf up this history. It could all be gone in a blink.

  252. arlenearmy says:

    Obama is boring me. He’s still speaking.

  253. m2 says:

    Hello comrades!

    I was just at a family function.

    My dad said a day or so ago the leader of the Communist party came out and gave Obama “an A+! 110% job approval”

  254. m2 says:

    Communist Party leader Sam Web, excerpts:

    “Six months into the Obama presidency, I would say without hesitation that the landscape, atmosphere, conversation, and agenda have strikingly changed compared to the previous eight years.

    “In this legislative session, we can envision winning a Medicare-like public option and then going further in the years ahead.

    “We can visualize passing tough regulatory reforms on the financial industry, which brought the economy to ruin.

    “…In the current political climate, the expansion of union rights becomes a real possibility.

    “Much the same can be said about winning a second stimulus bill, and we sure need one, given the still-rising rate, and likely long term persistence, of unemployment.

    “Isn’t it possible in the Obama era to create millions of green jobs in manufacturing and other sectors of the economy in tandem with an attack on global warming?

    “…The new conditions of struggle are possible only – and I want to emphasize only – because we elected President Obama and a Congress with pronounced progressive and center currents.

    “Yes, socialism is our objective and, according to recent public opinion polls, it is increasingly attractive to the American people. But clearly it is not on the immediate political agenda.

    “…As for our radicalism, we should be as radical as reality itself. And reality strongly suggests that our main task is to bring the weight of the working class and other democratic forces to bear on the reform process with the aim of deepening its anti-corporate content and direction.

    “…Let’s be aware that he [Obama] has to keep a coalition together for his long-term as well as immediate legislative agenda. Let’s give President Obama some space to change and to respond to pressures from below.

    “…The Right Wing, the American Medical Association, the pharmaceutical and insurance companies have drawn a line in the sand on health care.

    “…The core of this struggle, whether we like it or not, turns on the inclusion of a public option in a health care bill.

    “…Months ago it was said that the downturn could be “L-shaped” rather than “V-shaped.” In other words, the crisis begins with a steep decline in economic activity followed by long period of economic stagnation.

    “I suspect that this is what will happen, thus making sustained government and people’s intervention an imperative. In my view this should take at least three forms:

    “First, more economic stimulus: the economy is underperforming and nearly 30 million workers are unemployed or underemployed and that number hasn’t peaked yet.

    “Second, restructuring is imperative. The old economic model that rested on bubble economics, cheap labor, financial manipulation and speculation, deregulation, capital outsourcing, environmental degradation, and so forth, has to be replaced by a new model that expands and restructures the productive base and is “people and nature” friendly.

    “Finally, the economy has to be democratized. The wizards of Wall Street and inside the Beltway failed miserably, in fact, so miserably those economic decisions that affect the welfare of millions shouldn’t rest in their hands.

    “…In the meantime, the struggle for immediate public sector jobs and relief should command our attention.

    “…President Obama … has expressed a readiness to engage with countries that during the Bush years were considered mortal enemies – Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and others.

    “…In Iraq, the U.S. withdrawal plan is proceeding, with the first stage being withdrawal from Iraqi cities by July. President Obama has reiterated his intention to stick with the pullout deadlines. Even with the caveats about what U.S. forces might remain, this is a major victory for the peace movement.”

  255. m2 says:

    (1) Obama’s policy agenda and that of the CPUSA are in perfect alignment: more stimuli; green jobs; global warming; public sector jobs; more regulation and, in fact, restructuring of the entire economy; eventual single-payer health care, with the public option being critical to any immediate plan; union-friendly legislation; cutting defense spending; engaging and normalizing relations with the US’s mortal enemies like Hugo Chavez, the Castro brothers and the reigning mullah’s of Iran; claiming victory in Iraq as their own.

    (2) Obama’s political approach is also in perfect harmony with that of the CPUSA’s. The method is gradualism. Overall, Obama is doing pretty well at achieving CPUSA’s goals under the current political circumstances. The Left should not expect immediate and radical changes. And of all things, the Left should not “define the current struggle as one that arrays the people against President Obama. That’s not Marxism; it’s plain stupid.”

    (3) Mr. Webb expects a lousy economy to continue. Specifically, he expects the “L-shaped” recovery. But this “long period of economic stagnation” will be an excuse for continued government intervention. As Lenin supposedly said, “the worse the better.”

    (4) Socialism is the objective.

    In my view, this duck has a bill, webbed feet and feathers; quacks, walks, flies and swims; and has DNA that matches that of a duck. I’m willing to call it a duck.

    The really striking thing about all this, though, is that the CPUSA can openly align itself with the President of the US, right under our noses, and it will have zero effect on public sentiment because the lapdog media studiously averts its gaze.

  256. arlenearmy says:

    He really aint told us sh*t, except that it’s Bush’s fault.

  257. m2 says:

    Also comrades,

    do note- Obamatics is going after student loan, making the private loan industry dust in the wind, and instituting gov’t loan only by which student must make mandated service to the state.

    This is coming after Healthcare.

    I heard from pops that the loan thing may or may not have passed through, I will have to check on that.

  258. m2 says:

    Yes here it is:

    A bill that cleared a House committee Tuesday would largely remove private lenders from the federal student loan industry, generating an estimated $87 billion savings over 10 years to fund more government grants and loans.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/21/AR2009072103409.html

  259. m2 says:

    On student loans:

    Republicans opposed to the legislation say it amounts to a federal takeover of student lending.

    “I have to ask: Is there any industry not on the verge of federalization?” said Rep. John Kline (Minn.), the senior Republican on the committee. Rep. Brett Guthrie (R-Ky.) said he wasn’t “comfortable with the idea of the federal government acting as a profit-making bank.”

  260. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good evening my friends! I want to share a utube video of a local kick ass cover band in my area doing an instrumentasl version of a Led Zepplin cover. I hope you like it.

  261. ohiobelle says:

    Did our CEO of the United States really say “feed the kitty” or was the teleprompter fighting back??

  262. tellitlikeitis says:

    belle, Obama’s teleprompters are getting overwhelmed now and commitinf suicide.

  263. ohiobelle says:

    tellit, maybe they should contact Obama’s suicide help line… lol

    tellit wrote:
    belle, Obama’s teleprompters are getting overwhelmed now and commiting suicide.

  264. ohiobelle says:

    I would love to chat the night away but I have to get up early to pay for my neighbors house.

    Good night all.

  265. tellitlikeitis says:

  266. tellitlikeitis says:

    good night belle.

  267. ohiobelle says:

    Good night tellit…

    Get ready for some good ol’ Chicago Way politics running your healthcare…

    And to think we thought doctors were thugs?? lol

  268. Just finished listening to that vid VF. Man, every word out of his mouth was a lie. This man is a consumate liar. When will it stop?

    Great Post girl.

  269. karmahd says:

    KarmaHD Rant For The Evening>>>>

    AAAAA the drama of it all!! What a sales job on the press conference tonight, he was pushing, blaming, bumbling, bullshitting his way through all of it. I think this guy works completely off the polls, did anyone ask him about the economic numbers he is putting off until mid August. Those numbers are going to be pretty bleek. No way he can justify any additional spending until this economy is addressed. They have milked the bad times long enough, focus on putting people back to work, get the good workers back in there jobs three levels up in pay. Stimulate the economy for Christs sake!!

  270. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning all.

    Anyone know why Obama felt the need to insult police and doctors?

  271. samiam60 says:

    The Obama autosales man was selling the Rust Proofing and Paint Sealant last night. I imagine the extended warranty was in all that BS as well.

    Well I have to say he most likely lost some support from doctors and police officers. The blame game on Bush continues as Obama try’s to mask is massive failures and dropping pole numbers.

    Obama will be in Cleveland today and I did not get a ticket to see him but I am going to still try and get near by to spectate the event. Have my where’ s Your Birth Certificate Banner ready to go.

  272. SamHenry says:

    It’s the voice of freedom from the forest to the plains – Woooolf – good morning. I just found this news from the BBC about health care in UK. What do you all think about phone it in flu care?

    Pandemic flu service to go live
    By Nick Triggle
    Health reporter, BBC News

    Woman sneezing
    The NHS is facing “exceptional” levels of demand over swine flu

    The National Flu Service is expected to go live later, giving thousands of swine flu sufferers access to drugs without needing to consult a GP.

    The phone and website service, which will only cover England, is the first of its kind in the world.

    It has been designed to relieve pressure on the NHS and will use a checklist to diagnose cases.

    Pregnant women, people with health conditions and the under-ones will still all be referred to GPs.

    The Department of Health has accepted that the service could be abused by people giving the answers they believe will give them access to anti-flu drugs.

    But Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson has said it is a price worth paying to help the NHS cope with its “biggest challenge in a generation”.

  273. SamHenry says:

    Sami I am disgusted that the Prez did not say the following about the Cambridge situation with the professor:

    “I am a friend and supporter of the professor but I cannot get into a local matter. However, as you know, blacks and latinos have in the past been objects of racial profiling.

    To have gone on to discredit the Cambridge Police as “stupid” was racial profiling the other way around. If they have an officer in their ranks acting non-professionally, they will care for it.

  274. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning SamH.

    SamH says:

    To have gone on to discredit the Cambridge Police as “stupid” was racial profiling the other way around. If they have an officer in their ranks acting non-professionally, they will care for it.

    SamH, this was just another attempt by this President to fan the flames of racial tensions in the US. One brick at a time Obama is building a wall between the races.

  275. SamHenry says:

    You are quite right Sami and he is not making any attempt to hide it. He speaks excathedra as if he were Pope! HE is the law of the land. I see where the Mayor of Cambridge has ordered an investigation which she should. We don’t know what insult the professor hurled at the police that brought about the charges. There are two sides to every issue and people have gone into this in a one-sided way. I reject racial profiling in every form it takes but I also reject calling an incident racial profiling until all the facts are in.

  276. samiam60 says:

    As far as I am concerned there is NO racial profiling at all. It is called Crime Prevention and it is color blind.

  277. samiam60 says:

    The fact that our Prison system is 50% black speaks for itself.

  278. SamHenry says:

    British scientists according to the BBC are about 10 years away from reproducing a human brain electronically. It is hoped it will lead the way to cures for mental diseases of the brain. HELP IS ON THE WAY!

    Also, Sami, it explains why we can communicate on a level others cannot as members of the same Pack:

    The project now has a software model of “tens of thousands” of neurons – each one of which is different – which has allowed them to digitally construct an artificial neocortical column.

    Although each neuron is unique, the team has found the patterns of circuitry in different brains have common patterns.

    “Even though your brain may be smaller, bigger, may have different morphologies of neurons – we do actually share the same fabric,” he said.

    “And we think this is species specific, which could explain why we can’t communicate across species.”

  279. SamHenry says:

    Well, the President himself has said recently that there is no excuse not to go to school, not to do x,y and z – you are in charge of your own destiny.

  280. samiam60 says:

    BBL, as I have some things to get done this morning.

  281. boudicabpi says:

    Tell me if I am misunderstanding this.
    We currently once a year can switch between several health plans. The way I understand it if I switched from one to another it would be a new policy and I would lose my private health insurance and be thrown into Obamacare.

  282. SamHenry says:

    Here’s a Brit Journalist who says this has been a week of failed sales in Washington – from the Watergate Hotel to Obama’s health care:

    Even Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Speaker of the House, has slammed on the breaks because she does not like the fact that universal coverage – under her House colleagues’ proposals – would be paid for by a tax hike on individuals earning more than $280,000 and families earning more than $350,000

    She wants that limit to be much higher, around $500,000 per individual and $1m per family. This sounds like: “Let the rich be fleeced so the poor can heal”.

    Broadly speaking, most polls indicate that just under two-thirds of the country are in favour of healthcare reform, the same number that still like the president.

    Surely these figures have the makings of a deal.

    Here is the problem. President Obama does not need to appeal to the 47 million Americans who are uninsured. He is their only hope.

    He does not even need to appeal to the 25 million or so who are under-insured and are understandably bitter that they are not getting the service their premiums had led them to expect.

    Ironically, this fight is about the largest group of them all, the 83% of Americans (according to a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll) who are happy with their healthcare.

    Too many words

    They are the ones reform opponents have been scaring with ads featuring Canada’s mostly state-funded health service.

    In one of them, a cancer patient explains how she would have died if she had stayed in Canada and waited for the state to cut out her tumour.

    The people these ads are aimed at are the ones who cannot see what is in the reform for them.

    But what is in it for them, potentially, is a huge saving.

    It is calculated that the annual cost of health insurance is nearly $6,000 per capita; that is nearly twice as much as France or Germany where the majority of citizens are satisfied with their care.

    Ronald Reagan
    President Reagan gave 33 prime-time news conferences

    Since the money is deducted from Americans at source, they never really feel the pain of the cost and they rarely see how it breaks down. This has made them lazy.

    America is a country where people are forever chasing deals, shaving margins and measuring bangs for bucks. And yet this country is curiously lax when it comes to the household cost of healthcare, its second biggest annual expense after the mortgage.

    In other words, Mr Obama needs to appeal to the born again stinginess of American bargain-hunters lumbered with a recession.

    He needs to explain this as sparingly and reassuringly as a tax consultant. How about using a white board?

    It is about the numbers, Mr President. Golden words alone will not do the trick. There have been too many already.

    Mr Obama used the power of words to get himself elected. He cannot use the power of words to persuade Middle America that healthcare reform is in their best financial interest.

    The president has given four prime-time news conferences in six months.

    That is how many George W Bush gave in eight years. Now, to be fair, we criticised Mr Bush for giving too few and it would be churlish to slam Mr Obama for giving too many.

    Ronald Reagan, the Great Communicator, stacked them like no one else. He gave 33 prime-time news conferences in his eight years in office.

    The point is not their frequency. It is their potency. They do not seem to be working when it comes to selling policy.

    The president is now far more popular than his policies and that is a dangerous place to be as he heads off to splash in the waves off Martha’s Vineyard.

    His opponents want this to be his Waterloo.

    He has to be careful it does not become his unsold Watergate Hotel.

    Matt Frei is the presenter of BBC World News America which airs every weekday on BBC News, BBC World News and BBC America (for vi

  283. SamHenry says:

    boudicabpi
    You have said in part:

    We currently once a year can switch between several health plans. The way I understand it if I switched from one to another it would be a new policy and I would lose my private health insurance and be thrown into Obamacare.

    I have not read all of the parts of the presently fragmented new health care legislation. If you will be allowed to retain your private health care insurance, you may want to do so having that as a backup insurance – supplementing Obamacare. For this reason, I doubt that you could totally lose private insurance. If you wish to keep 100% private I would imagine you could and change provider annually as you do now. All that they have been saying seems to lead to this view.

    What in the news or the bill has caused you to think you could lose if you switch?

  284. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone! Good for him I wouldn’t apologize either.

    Officer in Henry Gates flap tried to save Reggie Lewis
    Denies he’s a racist, won’t apologize
    By Laurel J. Sweet, Marie Szaniszlo, Laura Crimaldi, Jessica Van Sack & Joe Dwinell
    Thursday, July 23, 2009 – Updated 7h ago

    E-mail Print (268) Comments Text size Share Buzz up!The Cambridge cop prominent Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. claims is a racist gave a dying Reggie Lewis mouth-to-mouth resuscitation in a desperate bid to save the Celtics [team stats] superstar’s life 16 years ago Monday.

    “I wasn’t working on Reggie Lewis the basketball star. I wasn’t working on a black man. I was working on another human being,” Sgt. James Crowley, in an exclusive interview with the Herald, said of the forward’s fatal heart attack July 27, 1993, at age 27 during an off-season practice at Brandeis University, where Crowley was a campus police officer.

    It’s a date Crowley still can recite by rote – and he still recalls the pain he suffered when people back then questioned whether he had done enough to save the black athlete.

    “Some people were saying ‘There’s the guy who killed Reggie Lewis’ afterward. I was broken-hearted. I cried for many nights,” he said.

    Crowley, 42, said he’s not a racist, despite how some have cast his actions in the Gates case. “Those who know me know I’m not,” he said.

    Yesterday, Lewis’ widow, Donna Lewis, was floored to learn the embattled father of three on the thin blue line of a national debate on racism in America was the same man so determined to rescue her husband.

    “That’s incredible,” Lewis, 44, exclaimed. “It’s an unfortunate situation. Hopefully, it can resolve itself. The most important thing is peace.”

    Gates, 58, an acclaimed scholar on black history and a PBS documentarian, went on the attack against Crowley on Tuesday, demanding he apologize for arresting him for disorderly conduct last Thursday while investigating a reported break-in at his home. Gates, returning from a trip, was seen by a Malden woman trying to force his front door open. Police alleged he initially refused to identify himself.

    Though he harbors no “ill feelings toward the professor,” a calm, resolute Crowley said no mea culpa will be forthcoming.

    “I just have nothing to apologize for,” he said. “It will never happen.”

    Attorney Charles Ogletree, Gates’ close friend and fellow Harvard savant, told the Herald, “It’s regrettable and unfortunate that the officer feels that way, and I do hope that some progress will be made in healing this wound.”

    Gates, who upon his arrest allegedly bellowed to a gathering crowd on Ware Street, “This is what happens to black men in America!” believes he was targeted by Crowley – whom he called a “rogue” cop – because of his race.

    Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert Haas, with Gates attorney Walter Prince’s consent, agreed Tuesday to drop the charge of disorderly conduct, calling the incident “an unfortunate set of circumstances.”

    Crowley, an 11-year veteran of the force, oversees the evidence room, paid details and records unit. He also coaches youth basketball, baseball and softball.

    Joseph McDonald, a former director of public safety at Brandeis, said Crowley was “a real pro,” calling Gates’ racial profiling charge “strange.”

    “You just do the job as a cop. You don’t look at the color of skin. You’re just trying to help people,” said McDonald, 57.

  285. SamHenry says:

    CBS News
    Richard Weinblatt, director of the Institute for Public Safety at Central Ohio Technical College, said the police sergeant was responsible for defusing the situation once he realized Gates was the lawful occupant. It is not against the law to yell at police, especially in a home, as long as that behavior does not affect an investigation, he said.

    “That is part of being a police officer in a democratic society,” Weinblatt said. “The point is that the police sergeant needs to be the bigger person, take the higher road, be more professional.”

    While there may have been a tinge of racial whatever, I believe it was just two men arguing one of whom, the police officer, forgot he was a professional and in charge of the situation at all times.

    I hope we may see the day when a white man may act unprofessionally against a black and not be called racist.

  286. SamHenry says:

    MY views begin after the quotes above.

  287. SamHenry says:

    Hi Tellit – As usual I have my nose buried so deeply in the news that I am oblivious to who is around. Good to see you.

  288. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Samiam! and SamH!

    It is another day in the Obama Collective… has everyone bowed to their 3 foot by 5 portrait of Obama? if not your children will be turning you in to the New Black Panthers… for being racist.

  289. rosehips says:

    good morning peeps.

    sami, it appears to me that you are carrying around a good ol’ double standard. You don’t seem to accept or believe anything Obama does or says but you have faith in our criminal justice system?

    Have you really looked into alleged racial profiling or the criminal justice system? Do you know no black person who has ever been stopped by law enforcement simply because of the color of his skin?
    What exactly does your statement below say for itself? (the point is that the disproportionate #’s of blacks in our prison system may be partly due to the racial bias of judges and jurors. How do you explain two people of different colors committing identical crimes but receiving very different sentences? And it is a fact that the black man is more likely to receive a longer sentence and is more likely to get wrongly convicted. It is fact. Justice is not color blind. The sad facts speak for themselves. I understand that higher percentages of blacks are engaged in criminal activities. But the disproportionate amount that are sent to jail doesn’t seem right. Something is wrong with that picture.

    sami said: The fact that our Prison system is 50% black speaks for itself.

  290. rosehips says:

    morning vf, 3X5 ft portrait? Where can I get one? lol

  291. rosehips says:

    and hey to sh and sami.

    I can’t stay on. I have company coming over this morning. Gotta go get ready…

  292. samiam60 says:

    Racism is but a mere excuse for bad behavior. Sad that it has to be used to the extent it is today.

  293. rosehips says:

    sami, I think you have it backwards. bad behavior is a mere excure for racism. Noone uses racism as an excuse. I’m sure if a cop targets a black man, he will claim it has nothing to do with race. It is difficult to prove racism unless it is blatant, and few are stupid enough to make statements eluding to the fact that actions are taken because of race.

  294. rosehips says:

    gotta go. bbl.

  295. samiam60 says:

    Rose, Yada,yada,yada, same old same old with you today. Nothing new in your personal attacks.

  296. samiam60 says:

    Rose says:
    Noone uses racism as an excuse.

    Samiam says: Huh?

  297. VotingFemale says:

    lol Samiam…

    Rose is lugging around her double standard today, I see!

    ROFL

  298. samiam60 says:

    Morning VF, good to see you as always.

  299. samiam60 says:

    VF I have a question for you. Do you need your birth certificate to get a passport?

  300. VotingFemale says:

    if a white kitty beats up a black kitty, it is racism.

    if a black kitty beats up a white kitty, it is justice.

    Any who oppose Barack Hussein Obama is a racist, straight up. Damn them tea baggin racist rednecks, doncha know? 😉

    Morning Fellow Conservatives… your anti-communism, thus racist, tendencies are showing.

    The only permitted racist black bashing is by the Socialists on conservative blacks.

    After all, they left the Socialist Plantation and did not bow down to Obama.

  301. VotingFemale says:

    yes

    samiam60 says

    VF I have a question for you. Do you need your birth certificate to get a passport?

  302. tellitlikeitis says:

    I don’t know why everyone is injecting race into this situation. It just seem like a staight up arrest. If you dissrespect a cop and verbally attack him or her expect to get arrested. I don’t care what color you are.

  303. samiam60 says:

    VF I have lived in a racially segregated community my entire life. I have seen first hand what is right and what is wrong. I have seen racism for sure and also seen it used as an excuse. So, no I am not a racist at all but do that it still exists to some degree and also see it used as an excuse.

    I do not need links and statistics to know what I have seen and heard in a lifetime. I believe half of what I see and none of what I hear. That is life in the real world and I am afraid many people are blind to reality and blind I might add by choice.

  304. samiam60 says:

    VF says:

    yes

    samiam60 says

    VF I have a question for you. Do you need your birth certificate to get a passport?

    Ok then VF , tell me how Obama got to go overseas?

  305. tellitlikeitis says:

    Oh!!!! noooooo!!! racism lifts it’s ugly head again. Where have the race hustlers Al and Jesse been hiding?

  306. tellitlikeitis says:

    You know Sam that is a good point. It would be interesting to see his passport. That might tell alot. He probably used he real birth certificate to obtain it and I’m sure it wasnt that phoney copy we saw on the net.

  307. samiam60 says:

    Tellit, I am curious if a President even needs a passport? I kinda think not.

  308. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good point Sam! He probably doesn’t as president.

  309. samiam60 says:

    Most people would assume an American President would be a natural born citizen.

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha, I crack myself up!

  310. VotingFemale says:

    Morning Tellit,

    if we are talking about the black cambridge professor getting arrested for breaking into a house, which later was determined to be his, I have the following comment to make on that there.

    Many years ago, I locked my keys in my car one day. I was trying to pull up the lock by inserting a piece of metal between the window edge and the rubber seal.

    A police officer driving by saw me and backed up. He got out of his car and walked up to me and asked if I was trying to break into the car.

    I answered, “Yes I am Officer, it is my car and I am locked out.”

    The officer asked, can you prove it is yours?
    I answered, “Yes Officer, as soon as I get the door unlocked.”

    I also said, “I appreciate you stopping and asking about this. You are protecting my property instead of just passing by without stopping.”

    I finally got it unlocked and showed him the registration and my driver’s license.

    He smiled and said, “just doing my duty ma’am.”

    Now if I had given him lip and pissed him off… it could have worked into an arrest without the door getting opened.

    Some folks create a problem…

  311. tellitlikeitis says:

    I am sure most of the american sheeple assume that. You know what happens when us assume.

  312. VotingFemale says:

    you do not have to be a natural born US citizen to get a US Passport

    samiam60 says
    VF says:

    yes

    samiam60 says

    VF I have a question for you. Do you need your birth certificate to get a passport?

    Ok then VF , tell me how Obama got to go overseas?

  313. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning VF, you just made my point from my earlier comment. Cops can arrest you on any BS charge if you piss them off. Color doesn’t matter. keeping your cool and being polite even if they are wrong will keep you out of jail. Fight your battles in court and not out on the street.

  314. VotingFemale says:

    many people create a problem using a minority “chip on the shoulder” attitude… which does not fly with most Police Officers…

    tellitlikeitis says

    Good Morning VF, you just made my point from my earlier comment. Cops can arrest you on any BS charge if you piss them off. Color doesn’t matter. keeping your cool and being polite even if they are wrong will keep you out of jail. Fight your battles in court and not out on the street.

  315. tellitlikeitis says:

    I am not niave enought to believe all arrests don’t have any racial component to them but I believe that would be more the exception and not the rule.

  316. samiam60 says:

    If I get pulled over in a traffic stop I am one big kiss a$$ as I know my chances are better that way of getting off with a warning. It never works for me but oh well our police officers go to work everyday not knowing if it will be their last. They deserve all the respect I can muster up. I appreciate the fact that I have someone to call in an emergency period.

  317. samiam60 says:

    If a black police officer pulls over a vehicle with black occupants, is that racial profiling? And if Racial Profiling was running rampant do you not think black officers would speak out?

  318. SamHenry says:

    Hi guys – was multi-tasking in bi-racial waters off the East Coast near Martha’s Vineyard! I have a new iReport:

    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-302732

  319. tellitlikeitis says:

    When you get pulled over always be polite because if you end up going to traffic court the one question the judge always asks the cop is. How was his or her demeanor? and you don’t want the cop to answer negatively about you to the judge if you’re looking for a break. BTW, if you have a good driving record always go to court because you can usually get a break on the points and /or fine.

  320. samiam60 says:

    IF YOU CONTROL THE MEDIA YOU CONTROL THE COUNTRY. THIS IS A MUST SEE VIDEO.
    SEND IN THE CLOWNS:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=3CAX3aJCoDg

  321. Hey ya’ll! I can’t believe you guys are talking about the man getting locked out, etc. I was so ticked off last night I actually did a post on it as well as other things.

    I THINK THE REPORTER WAS TOLD (STAGED) TO ASK THAT QUESTION (as his townhalls are preselected, etc). By what she asked in the way she asked it, how would anyone know what the heck she was referrring to? but bo sure jumped on it like stink on poo poo.

  322. SamHenry says:

    Professor Gates comes from another era and thus arena of bi-cultural experience. He is also an older American. These two elements could have made if difficult to deal in the unusual circumstance in which he found himself.

    As for the arresting officer who said he “played it from the book” – that can as easily lead you down the wrong path. Judgment is the primary skill needed here. He could have been cultural, educationally and emotionally over his head. However, he should not forget he is in charge of the situation – not the professor. He may have needed to act more professionally but here again we need to wait. Cooler heads need to move into this situation and to help create as much calm as possible. There are a lot of unstated emotions running rampant nationally now that need to be considered and dampened.

  323. plus that was a way for bo to leave the health destruction with the wedge of racism instead of what people should have been thinking on (how stupid he is) on health care. He totally diverted attention to his wack job on health care.

    gotta go bbl

  324. VotingFemale says:

    First I have seen of this… lol

  325. SamHenry says:

    Thanks for the tips, Telli – not from experience I hope – that is on the offending side. I hope you are an attorney!

  326. SamHenry says:

    My iReport on the Cambridge mess seems quite sweet until you get to this sentence that liberalpuke missed:

    since President Obama’s victory, there has been a need to make certain that everyone understands that one race has not won out over another

    No one really takes this on. There is a lot of unexpressed anger about this but no one mentions it.

  327. VotingFemale says:

    On the rare occasions I have been pulled over by a police officer I dont kiss ass… rather I am truthful, polite, and respectful. And that goes a long way to keeping a situation from going in a wrong direction.

    samiam60 says

    If I get pulled over in a traffic stop I am one big kiss a$$ as I know my chances are better that way of getting off with a warning. It never works for me but oh well our police officers go to work everyday not knowing if it will be their last. They deserve all the respect I can muster up. I appreciate the fact that I have someone to call in an emergency period.

  328. SamHenry says:

    Only once did I observe a cocky individual get off from a police stop. My late father ate a banana and threw the peel out the window. We were living in Florida. Cop pulled him over and asked — and did he know—- etc. My father looked up and him and said: Officer, if you were driving along eating a banana, what would you do with the peel”? Saved by a rhetorical question! He let us go. Later it was discovered that this same officer was found guilty of stealing a wallet out of a parked car.

  329. tellitlikeitis says:

  330. VotingFemale says:

    last time I was pulled over was for speeding one night last year on the way home from a client’s worksite… I missed seeing a drop in the speed limit on a hilly turny country two lane highway… and was doing my best to go the posted legal limit and my speed matched exactly the posted limit prior to the speed limit drop I missed seeing.

    I was really puzzled why I was pulled over and had seen the parked patrol car as I passed it and did not touch the brakes or unsnap the cruise control. I asked him why I was pulled over… not in an angry way but in a puzzled way. He told me why. I offered no excuses at all and just showed self-disappointment on my face.

    The Officer gave me a warning…

  331. samiam60 says:

    VF says:

    On the rare occasions I have been pulled over by a police officer I dont kiss ass… rather I am truthful, polite, and respectful. And that goes a long way to keeping a situation from going in a wrong direction.

    VF, that’s the same thing in my book,lololol

  332. tellitlikeitis says:

    This is funny as hell!!!!!

  333. samiam60 says:

    tellit that video is just too funny. Question for ya, What do you suppose would happen if a white comedian made that video?

  334. tellitlikeitis says:

    You goot watch this one! lol

  335. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit, that Chris Rock Vid pretty much sums it all up… except for the mad woman part.

    Chris should have said…. “Don’t piss off your woman else you deserve to get an ass kicking by the police.”

    ROFL

  336. tellitlikeitis says:

    You guys gotta watch the last vid I posted. It is funny as hell!

  337. tellitlikeitis says:

    OMG!!!! These vids are just tooooo funnnnny! ROFLMAO!

  338. SamHenry says:

    I need to learn to write out an iReport and then shelve it for at least an hour. I find I go back at them too often. I have revised my ireport in ways I can’t recognize. I finally voiced my disapproval at how the Prez is handling just about everything AND I placed more responsibility on this racism business on the part of those involved in the argument. The professor and the police officer both should go to their rooms. Shame

  339. SamHenry says:

    Dog is fading fast – up too early; thinking too hard – no positive results. Hate the iReport; hate the time lost and before I hate me – back to filling out job applications.

    Overboard until I can think clearly….

  340. tellitlikeitis says:

    sam, The answer to your question is that he would be called a racist.

  341. m2 says:

    Hello guys! My computer was gone today.. on a meeting w/husband.

    Did anyone see the Repub (Jim Demint?) who said that he brought forth legislation while Obama was a Senator to cut the cost, and regulate healthcare better… and Obama voted NO on all measures?

    That’s b/c he wants ALL gov’t, of course.
    and then that chart by the CBO of 10 years out!! BHA HA HA HA!!! what a laugh.

    It’s 5x more expensive on Obama’s plans than it is now.

    The repubs say we need tort reform…

  342. m2 says:

    uh and Obama only cares about the destruction of the economy in how it relates to his “poll numbers” as it is well planned by the Communist party (and Obama) that an “L” is the goal.

    What he wants is stagnation in order to continue to level out the social sphere ‘gradually’…

  343. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi m2.

  344. VF Said:
    if a white kitty beats up a black kitty, it is racism.

    if a black kitty beats up a white kitty, it is justice.

    Any who oppose Barack Hussein Obama is a racist, straight up. Damn them tea baggin racist rednecks, doncha know?

    GIRL!!! VF-Q, this is so stinking funny!!!!! I had to call my conservative girlfriend and tell her about it. People just can’t believe it when I tell them about you and others here and what DOGGONE FUNNY and TRUE stuff ya’ll say on here.

    gottagobbl!

  345. m2 says:

    Oh man!
    He’s got a LIE for a LIFE.

    I think this might mean he’s got psychiatric problems.

    Most of the scary Leftist dictators do have psychiatric problems, though.

  346. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, What do you expect from the Liar and Thief.

  347. m2 says:

    Hi VF, Tellit, WG… 😀

  348. m2 says:

    Commander in Thief

  349. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2 check out the videos I posted earlier especially the last 2.

  350. m2 says:

    surgeon says:

    Wow–after the AMA endorses his plan, he slanders doctors when he suggested that they make decisions based on fee schedules, eg, tonsillectomy for a sore throat. Every doctor in America should send him an email

    He screwed up when he was talking about “hidden costs” and “uncompensated” care–he explained it as someone showing up to an ER who does not have a primary care physician.

    He frequently used “health care” and “health insurance” interchangeably

    He talked about patients being more “discriminating consumers”. A government controlled plan won’t do that—Health Savings Accounts will.

  351. m2 says:

    They sure are funny, but they are CREEPY too… lol

  352. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hello warrant. Vf, must have like the two trillion tons video. She posted it again. lol

  353. tellitlikeitis says:

    Some people are so creative and have way too much time on their hands. lol

  354. m2 says:

    Guess who proposed a platform for change that contained all the points below? (All emphases added by me.)

    We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens.

    All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

    The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all.

    Abolition of unearned (work and labor) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

    … personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

    We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

    We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

    We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

    We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

    We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

    The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious [citizen] to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions… We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

    The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

    We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses … common utility precedes individual utility.

    The answer: The Program of the National-Socialist (Nazi) German Workers’ Party of 1920.

  355. tellitlikeitis says:

    Jobless Claims Up 30,000; Unemployed Number Falls
    The number of U.S. workers filing new claims for jobless benefits rose roughly as expected last week, but the data was distorted by an unusual pattern of layoffs in the automotive industry.

    AP
    ——————————————————————————–

    Initial claims for state unemployment insurance rose by 30,000 to a seasonally adjusted 554,000 in the week ended July 18, the Labor Department said Thursday. Analysts polled by Reuters had expected claims to increase to 550,000 from a previously reported 522,000.

    A Labor Department official said there were more layoffs than anticipated based on past experience in the automotive sector and elsewhere in manufacturing, following two weeks when there had been fewer layoffs.

    Because the department uses past history to try to smooth out the impact of seasonal patterns, this amplified the rise in claims last week. Actual claims fell by less than expected, in part because they had risen by less than anticipated in the previous two weeks.

    U.S. stocks index futures held gains, while prices for U.S. government bonds slipped and the euro rose against the dollar after the data was released.

    Economists cautioned the seasonal adjustment problems made it hard to accurately determine the underlying trend, but they said a big drop in claims earlier this month hinted the pace of layoffs was slowing.

    “I do think it tells you there’s a trend involved here. I wouldn’t say the economy’s necessarily improving, but it’s not getting worse. And maybe it is improving slightly, ever so slightly,” said Robert MacIntosh, chief economist at Eaton Vance Corp in Boston.

  356. samiam60 says:

    Hope the Obama dude has good tonsils. Wow, would a doctor like to get some pay back?

  357. m2 says:

    Tellit, this is an “L” economy… and we may or may not be at the horizontal part yet, but that’s our future.

  358. m2 says:

    it doesn’t even take a grade schooler to know that docs order un-needed tests in order to avoid lawsuits.

    They don’t remove body parts to make a buck.

    Obama.
    DUH.

  359. tellitlikeitis says:

    I couldn’t watch the press conferense last night. My stomach just can’t handle seeing him on TV. I am so happy that my CATV offered many alternative channels to watch at 8pm last night so I didn’t have to turn off the tv.

  360. m2 says:

    ha ha ha…

    I heard some lap dog reporter ask a question and as soon as Obama started talking my mind began to die so I switched the radio station (I was in the car)…

  361. tellitlikeitis says:

    Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing
    July 23, 2009
    By Jackie Kucinich
    Roll Call Staff

    ——————————————————————————–
    Democrats are preventing Republican House Members from sending their constituents a mailing that is critical of the majority’s health care reform plan, blocking the mailing by alleging that it is inaccurate.
    House Republicans are crying foul and claiming that the Democrats are using their majority to prevent GOP Members from communicating with their constituents.

    The dispute centers on a chart (view PDF) created by Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) and Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee to illustrate the organization of the Democratic health care plan.

    At first glance, Brady’s chart resembles a board game: a colorful collection of shapes and images with a web of lines connecting them.

    But a closer look at the image reveals a complicated menagerie of government offices and programs that Republicans say will be created if the leading Democratic health care plan becomes law.

    In a memo sent Monday to Republicans on the House franking commission, Democrats argue that sending the chart to constituents as official mail would violate House rules because the information is misleading.

    In their eight-point memo, which was obtained by Roll Call, Democrats identify a litany of areas where they believe the chart is incorrect.

    For example, Democrats argue that the chart depicts a “Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund” that is “simply a recipient of IRS funds, with no outflow. … This is false.”

    The chart’s illustration of low-income subsidies is also “misleading and false,” Democrats argue.

    Congressional rules for franked mail bar Members from using taxpayer-funded mail for newsletters that use “partisan, politicized or personalized” comments to criticize legislation or policy.

    The dispute over Brady’s chart is being reviewed by the franking commission, which must approve any mail before it can be sent. No decision had been made on the matter by press time.

    Brady adamantly denied that the chart was misleading and said Democrats are simply threatened by the content of the graphic.

    “I think their review was laughable,” Brady said. “It’s … downright false in most of the cases. The chart depicts their health care plan as their committees developed it.”

    “The chart reveals how their health care bureaucracy works, and people are frightened by it,” he added. “So this is their effort to try and discredit” the chart.

    Republican Members have made 20 requests to mail a version of the chart to their constituents and have been told that the requests are being delayed while the commission reviews allegations that the chart is misleading.

    “Hiding the truth about wildly unpopular policies is a Democrat specialty,” said one GOP aide. “I’d like to see the flow chart on how Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi plans on implementing the open and transparent government she keeps promising everyone.”

    “We have initiated discussions with the minority to try and resolve current differences and are operating in good faith to achieve that goal,” said Kyle Anderson, a spokesman for House Administration Chairman Robert Brady (D-Pa.). The committee has oversight of the commission.

    Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Calif.), ranking member of the committee and a member of the franking commission, said through a spokeswoman that he is also aware of the situation and is working with the members of the franking commission to resolve the differences, but he added that he believed Democrats on the commission were overreaching.

    “He strongly believes that the franking commission does not have the authority to deny Member communications based on partisan differences of pending legislation,” said Salley Collins, a spokeswoman for Lungren.

    The franking commission is made up of three Democrats and three Republicans.

    Republicans quickly embraced Brady’s chart, and over the past week about 50 Members have posted it on their Congressional Web sites or used it in a floor speech. It has also been posted on the home page of the Republican National Committee.

  362. m2 says:

    Obama was giving me Alzheimer’s with the lull of his voice spewing un-detailed conservative rhetoric that said nothing about his fascist healthcare takeover.

  363. m2 says:

    Democrat leadership is out of control. Can we just ship them to Venezuela and let them pass their remaining years there? They might be happy.

    Though they’d have to be controlled by another Leftist… ha ha ha

  364. tellitlikeitis says:

    More scare tactics from the socialists.

    <By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff

    WASHINGTON — Massive crop devastation, melting glaciers, water shortages, millions of displaced people — all of these will drag the US military into conflict if global climate change goes unchecked, a Senate panel was warned today.

    The Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, convened by Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, focused on what so far has received only modest attention in the climate change debate: the effect it is bound to have on national defense.

    "Addressing the consequences of changes in the Earth's climate is not simply about saving polar bears or preserving the beauty of mountain glaciers," retired Navy Vice Adm. Lee F. Gunn, president of the American Security Project, told the panel. "Climate change is a threat to our national security."

    Gunn and other military specialists said that climate change could have broad effects on how the US military operates. It will likely expand the number of humanitarian missions the Pentagon will have to undertake, they said, and even change how it deploys its fighting forces.

    For example, they warned that rising sea levels could swamp critical US military bases in the Indian Ocean and even the headquarters of the Atlantic Fleet in Norfolk, Va., which could be under water after just a one-meter rise in the ocean level.

    From Africa to the Middle East and South Asia, dramatic changes in the weather will stress already unstable nations, creating what Gunn called "climate conflicts."

    "International conflicts over resources, due to migrants, and/or as a means of distraction are not only likely," he added, "but likely to exacerbate the underlying climate change problem."

    Kerry, since he took the helm of the committee earlier this year, has made addressing climate change a top priority. Several specialists said today that elevating the security aspect will help garner the kind of support necessary to make the difficult changes in energy and other global policies to stabilize the climate.

    Sharon E. Burke, vice president for natural security at the Center for a New American Security, testified that the hearing was "an important demonstration of the fact that global climate change is now taken seriously as a strategic challenge."

    Kerry, for his part, pledged to keep the shining the light on the issue.

    "If we fail to connect the dots — if we fail to take action — the simple, indisputable reality is that we will find ourselves living not only in a ravaged environment, but also in a much more dangerous world," he said.

    Correction: This item has been revised because of a reporting error that misstated the title for Sharon E. Burke, vice president for natural security at the Center for a New American Security.

    Kerry's full opening statement is below:

    KERRY'S PREPARED OPENING REMARKS

    We are here today to discuss a grave and growing threat to global stability, human security, and America’s national security. As you will hear from all of today’s witnesses, the threat of catastrophic climate change is not an academic concern for the future.
    It is already upon us, and its effects are being felt worldwide, right now. Earlier this year, a 25-mile wide ice bridge connecting the Wilkins Shelf to the Antarctic landmass shattered, disconnecting the Shelf from the Antarctic continent. In four years, the Arctic is projected to experience its first ice-free summer—not in 2030, but in 2013. The threat is real and fast approaching.
    Just as 9-11 taught us the painful lesson that oceans could not protect us from terror, today we are deluding ourselves if we believe that climate change will stop at our borders.
    Fortunately, America’s most trusted security voices—including those here today—have been sounding the alarm. In 2007, eleven former Admirals and high-ranking generals issued a seminal report from the Center for Naval Analysis, where Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn serves on the Military Advisory Board. They warned that climate change is a “threat multiplier” with “the potential to create sustained natural and humanitarian disasters on a scale far beyond those we see today.”
    This is because climate change injects a major new source of chaos, tension, and human insecurity into an already volatile world. It threatens to bring more famine and drought, worse pandemics, more natural disasters, more resource scarcity, and human displacement on a staggering scale. Places only too familiar with the instability, conflict, and resource competition that often create refugees and IDPs, will now confront these same challenges with an ever growing population of EDPs—environmentally displaced people. We risk fanning the flames of failed-statism, and offering glaring opportunities to the worst actors in our international system. In an interconnected world, that endangers all of us.
    Nowhere is the nexus between today’s threats and climate change more acute than in South Asia–the home of Al Qaeda and the center of our terrorist threat. Scientists are now warning that the Himalayan glaciers, which supply water to almost a billion people from China to Afghanistan, could disappear completely by 2035.
    Water from the Himalayas flows through India into Pakistan. India’s rivers are not only agriculturally vital, they are also central to its religious practice. Pakistan, for its part, is heavily dependent on irrigated farming. Even as our government scrambles to ratchet down tensions and prepares to invest billions to strengthen Pakistan’s capacity to deliver for its people—climate change is threatening to work powerfully in the opposite direction.
    Worldwide, climate change risks making the most volatile places even more combustible. The Middle East is home to six percent of the world’s population but just two percent of the world’s water. A demographic boom and a shrinking water supply will only tighten the squeeze on a region that doesn’t need another reason to disagree.
    Closer to home, there is scarcely an instrument of American foreign policy that will be untouched by a changing climate. Diego Garcia Island in the Indian Ocean, a vital hub for our military operations across the Middle East, sits on an atoll just a few feet above sea level. Norfolk, VA, home to our Atlantic Fleet, will be submerged by one meter of sea level rise. These problems are not insurmountable, but they will be expensive, and they risk compromising our readiness.
    Of course, the future has a way of humbling those who try to predict it too precisely. But we do know, from scientists and security experts, that the threat is very real. If we fail to connect the dots—if we fail to take action—the simple, indisputable reality is that we will find ourselves living not only in a ravaged environment, but also in a much more dangerous world.
    We are honored to be joined today by an old friend who needs no introduction in these halls. John Warner served five terms as a US Senator from Virginia. He enlisted in the Navy at age 17, served as a sailor in World War Two, fought as a Marine in Korea, and rose to become Secretary of the Navy.
    I met Secretary Warner when he presented me a Silver Star. Senator Warner became a friend, a colleague for twenty-four years, and one of the true gentlemen of this institution. When he retired and I was awarded his old office, Senator Warner’s gift to his fellow Navy man was a binnacle—a tool that sailors use to point out the right direction and light a path forward. Of course, none of us could ask for a better guide than Senator Warner’s own words and his life of service. I am pleased that he continues to use his extraordinary credibility to speak directly to the American people about the urgency of this issue.
    Our other witnesses are impressive in their own right. A decorated 35-year veteran of the US Navy, Vice Admiral Lee Gunn now serves as President of the American Security Project.
    Sharon Burke is Vice President for Natural Security at the Center for a New American Security, where she directs the Center’s work on the national security implications of global natural resources challenges.
    Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn is a member of the CNA Military Advisory Board and former Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Warfare Requirements and Programs. I look forward to hearing from each of you. But first let us turn to a Senator who, for years, has been a Senate leader in confronting non-traditional security challenges from loose nuclear material to food security: Senator Richard Lugar.

  365. tellitlikeitis says:

    More scare tactics from the socialists.

    < July 21, 2009 06:55 PM
    By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff

    WASHINGTON — Massive crop devastation, melting glaciers, water shortages, millions of displaced people — all of these will drag the US military into conflict if global climate change goes unchecked, a Senate panel was warned today.

    The Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, convened by Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, focused on what so far has received only modest attention in the climate change debate: the effect it is bound to have on national defense.

    "Addressing the consequences of changes in the Earth's climate is not simply about saving polar bears or preserving the beauty of mountain glaciers," retired Navy Vice Adm. Lee F. Gunn, president of the American Security Project, told the panel. "Climate change is a threat to our national security."

    Gunn and other military specialists said that climate change could have broad effects on how the US military operates. It will likely expand the number of humanitarian missions the Pentagon will have to undertake, they said, and even change how it deploys its fighting forces.

    For example, they warned that rising sea levels could swamp critical US military bases in the Indian Ocean and even the headquarters of the Atlantic Fleet in Norfolk, Va., which could be under water after just a one-meter rise in the ocean level.

    From Africa to the Middle East and South Asia, dramatic changes in the weather will stress already unstable nations, creating what Gunn called "climate conflicts."

    "International conflicts over resources, due to migrants, and/or as a means of distraction are not only likely," he added, "but likely to exacerbate the underlying climate change problem."

    Kerry, since he took the helm of the committee earlier this year, has made addressing climate change a top priority. Several specialists said today that elevating the security aspect will help garner the kind of support necessary to make the difficult changes in energy and other global policies to stabilize the climate.

    Sharon E. Burke, vice president for natural security at the Center for a New American Security, testified that the hearing was "an important demonstration of the fact that global climate change is now taken seriously as a strategic challenge."

    Kerry, for his part, pledged to keep the shining the light on the issue.

    "If we fail to connect the dots — if we fail to take action — the simple, indisputable reality is that we will find ourselves living not only in a ravaged environment, but also in a much more dangerous world," he said.

    Correction: This item has been revised because of a reporting error that misstated the title for Sharon E. Burke, vice president for natural security at the Center for a New American Security.

    Kerry's full opening statement is below:

    KERRY'S PREPARED OPENING REMARKS

    We are here today to discuss a grave and growing threat to global stability, human security, and America’s national security. As you will hear from all of today’s witnesses, the threat of catastrophic climate change is not an academic concern for the future.
    It is already upon us, and its effects are being felt worldwide, right now. Earlier this year, a 25-mile wide ice bridge connecting the Wilkins Shelf to the Antarctic landmass shattered, disconnecting the Shelf from the Antarctic continent. In four years, the Arctic is projected to experience its first ice-free summer—not in 2030, but in 2013. The threat is real and fast approaching.
    Just as 9-11 taught us the painful lesson that oceans could not protect us from terror, today we are deluding ourselves if we believe that climate change will stop at our borders.
    Fortunately, America’s most trusted security voices—including those here today—have been sounding the alarm. In 2007, eleven former Admirals and high-ranking generals issued a seminal report from the Center for Naval Analysis, where Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn serves on the Military Advisory Board. They warned that climate change is a “threat multiplier” with “the potential to create sustained natural and humanitarian disasters on a scale far beyond those we see today.”
    This is because climate change injects a major new source of chaos, tension, and human insecurity into an already volatile world. It threatens to bring more famine and drought, worse pandemics, more natural disasters, more resource scarcity, and human displacement on a staggering scale. Places only too familiar with the instability, conflict, and resource competition that often create refugees and IDPs, will now confront these same challenges with an ever growing population of EDPs—environmentally displaced people. We risk fanning the flames of failed-statism, and offering glaring opportunities to the worst actors in our international system. In an interconnected world, that endangers all of us.
    Nowhere is the nexus between today’s threats and climate change more acute than in South Asia–the home of Al Qaeda and the center of our terrorist threat. Scientists are now warning that the Himalayan glaciers, which supply water to almost a billion people from China to Afghanistan, could disappear completely by 2035.
    Water from the Himalayas flows through India into Pakistan. India’s rivers are not only agriculturally vital, they are also central to its religious practice. Pakistan, for its part, is heavily dependent on irrigated farming. Even as our government scrambles to ratchet down tensions and prepares to invest billions to strengthen Pakistan’s capacity to deliver for its people—climate change is threatening to work powerfully in the opposite direction.
    Worldwide, climate change risks making the most volatile places even more combustible. The Middle East is home to six percent of the world’s population but just two percent of the world’s water. A demographic boom and a shrinking water supply will only tighten the squeeze on a region that doesn’t need another reason to disagree.
    Closer to home, there is scarcely an instrument of American foreign policy that will be untouched by a changing climate. Diego Garcia Island in the Indian Ocean, a vital hub for our military operations across the Middle East, sits on an atoll just a few feet above sea level. Norfolk, VA, home to our Atlantic Fleet, will be submerged by one meter of sea level rise. These problems are not insurmountable, but they will be expensive, and they risk compromising our readiness.
    Of course, the future has a way of humbling those who try to predict it too precisely. But we do know, from scientists and security experts, that the threat is very real. If we fail to connect the dots—if we fail to take action—the simple, indisputable reality is that we will find ourselves living not only in a ravaged environment, but also in a much more dangerous world.
    We are honored to be joined today by an old friend who needs no introduction in these halls. John Warner served five terms as a US Senator from Virginia. He enlisted in the Navy at age 17, served as a sailor in World War Two, fought as a Marine in Korea, and rose to become Secretary of the Navy.
    I met Secretary Warner when he presented me a Silver Star. Senator Warner became a friend, a colleague for twenty-four years, and one of the true gentlemen of this institution. When he retired and I was awarded his old office, Senator Warner’s gift to his fellow Navy man was a binnacle—a tool that sailors use to point out the right direction and light a path forward. Of course, none of us could ask for a better guide than Senator Warner’s own words and his life of service. I am pleased that he continues to use his extraordinary credibility to speak directly to the American people about the urgency of this issue.
    Our other witnesses are impressive in their own right. A decorated 35-year veteran of the US Navy, Vice Admiral Lee Gunn now serves as President of the American Security Project.
    Sharon Burke is Vice President for Natural Security at the Center for a New American Security, where she directs the Center’s work on the national security implications of global natural resources challenges.
    Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn is a member of the CNA Military Advisory Board and former Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Warfare Requirements and Programs. I look forward to hearing from each of you. But first let us turn to a Senator who, for years, has been a Senate leader in confronting non-traditional security challenges from loose nuclear material to food security: Senator Richard Lugar.

  366. tellitlikeitis says:

    m2 I agree. Let chavez have them.

  367. m2 says:

    Wow. You know Obama’s plan sucks when NYT/AP call out his supposed “Facts”

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/07/22/us/politics/AP-US-Obama-Fact-Check.html?_r=1

  368. Foxwood says:

    Funny vid Tellit.

    Does anybody know the compared numbers of people from the US going to Canada to see a doctor, as opposed to Canadians going to the US for a doctor?

    Hmmmm…

    Just asking.

  369. tellitlikeitis says:

    NYT piece is not good for the kenyan king. Maybe the liberal media is finally starting to turn on him. Maybe the liberal media is getting tired of being played like the fools they are.

  370. Foxwood says:

    leftist = leftists

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  372. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Foxwood.

  373. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, yes there were people going to Canada for medical procedures but unfortunately they all died waiting for treatment. lol

  374. Foxwood says:

    Bill Cosby has come out asking how the President can comment on the Cambridge incident when the President admitted he didn’t know the facts.

    I love Bill.

  375. Foxwood says:

    Morning Tellit, M2.

  376. Foxwood says:

    Listening to the Professors spew, it sounds like he gave the typical liberal crap. If I were a cop, I would have cuffed him.

  377. Foxwood says:

    Just woke up. I have to shower and get some green tea.

  378. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, Yea Bill Cosby. You can always count on him to inject common sense into an argument.

  379. Foxwood says:

    Gates house has been broke into before. The neighbors called the cops when they saw someone break in. The cops didn’t arrest Gates for breaking in. Gates did get in his house. So did the cops. Neighbors say Gates ran the cops out of his house and the cops arrested Gates for being belligerent. It had nothing to do with racism. A black cop was there for the arrest.

    It’s amazing people will take sides without knowing the facts.

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  381. Foxwood says:

    Bill has been spanked for telling the truth before, even when other blacks say the same thing. Bill gets spanked because he seems to be Conservative. I don’t know that he is Conservative, but I like the man.

  382. tellitlikeitis says:

    No Foxwood, People are just looking for racism where racism doesn’t exist.

  383. Foxwood says:

    I gotta take my shower.

  384. Foxwood says:

    Feel much better now.

  385. Foxwood says:

    I’ve found that since Obummer has been in office, and all of the lies that come with it, I’ve been using the name of a town in Thailand more and more often.

    Phuket!

  386. Foxwood says:

    Liberalism, Socialism, Communism will not be accepted by the common American in the United States, if it is not disguised. They do not pass. Liberals, Socialists and Commies have to lie and deceive to get their agenda passed. They rely on the 50 years of indoctrination in our public schools, i.e. lies and deception. That is how Obummer has gotten this far.

    “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” – Vladimir Lenin

    “Give us four years to teach a child and the seed we have sown will never be uprooted. Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.” – Vladimir Lenin

    “Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.” – Joseph Stalin

  387. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, I agree with you but at some point common sense and logic take over and resentment builds due to the insanity and unfairness.

  388. tellitlikeitis says:

    OMG!, I thought getting helthcare passed in Aug was a matter of life and death.

    Obama: OK If August Healthcare Deadline Missed

    President Barack Obama conceded Thursday that Congress will not meet his August deadline for passing healthcare reform bills, but said he wanted lawmakers to keep on working on the issue.

    It was the first time he has said he wouldn’t be troubled if the bills in the House of Representatives and the Senate didn’t pass by the time Congress leaves on its August recess.

    “I want the bill to get out of the committees,” Obama told a town hall meeting in Shaker Heights, Ohio. “I want it done by the end of this year.”

    If the bills don’t pass by August, he said, “that’s OK. I just want people to keep on working.”

    Obama’s drive for healthcare reform suffered a setback Thursday when Senate leaders said they would not be able to pass the measure before leaving for a monthlong August recess.

    The day after Obama’s prime-time news conference to sell the healthcare proposal, congressional leaders struggled to ease doubts about the plan and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the full chamber would not take up the bill until after its monthlong recess that begins Aug. 7.

    “We’ll come back in the fall” to work on the bill in the full Senate, he told reporters.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she was “more confident than ever” that Congress would meet Obama’s timetable of passing a bill by the end of the year, but the initial vote might not come as quickly as hoped.

    “We will take the bill to the floor when it is ready, and when it is ready we will have the votes to pass it,” Pelosi told reporters.

    The reform package under construction in both chambers of Congress has been besieged from all sides by criticism about its more than $1 trillion price tag and its scope, with debates raging behind closed doors over how to pay for the program and rein in healthcare costs.

  389. tellitlikeitis says:

    FOX News Poll: Obama Approval Rating Drops to New Low
    President Obama’s approval rating has dropped to a new low of 54 percent — down 8 points since June — as most Americans think his administration lacks a clear plan for fixing the economy, according to a FOX News poll.
    By Dana Blanton

    Though Americans still blame former President George W. Bush for the ailing economy, President Obama faces dropping approval ratings amid doubts that he has a clear plan for fixing the economy.

    A FOX News poll released Thursday shows approval of Obama’s job performance at a new low of 54 percent. That is down from 62 percent in June. The president’s job approval rating has averaged 61 percent over the first six months of his term.

    As Democrats continue to be happy with their party leader (86 percent approve) and Republicans continue to be cool to Obama (75 percent disapprove), everyone is tracking how independents feel. Some 54 percent of independents approve of the job Obama is doing, down from 66 percent last month, and 36 percent disapprove, up from 26 percent (9-10 June 2009).

    Obama’s approval rating is lower on the top issues of the day. On health care, 43 percent of Americans say they approve of the job the president is doing and 45 percent disapprove. On the economy, 50 percent approve and 43 percent disapprove.

    Click here to see the full poll results.

    Americans put fixing the economy (36 percent) as the top priority for the federal government right now, followed by creating jobs (21 percent). Reducing the deficit (12 percent) and reforming health care (12 percent) receive the same double-digit support, followed by handling the situation with Iran and North Korea (7 percent).

    “The president’s challenge will be to position health care reform as an everyday ‘pocket book’ issue and not a government takeover of a large part of the economy,” said Ernest Paicopolos, a principal of Opinion Dynamics Corporation.

  390. rosehips says:

    vf, that two trillion ton vid was pretty funny. But what I want to know is why did they stick a pic of Cynthia McKinney on a bad hair day in with Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton? I’m sure there is a racial “message” in there somewhere. lol.

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