Obama apparently considers F-22 Raptor, Racist;Threatens to Veto Bill if funding included


Apparently Obama considers the F-22 Raptor Fighter Jet to be Racist and gives Whites an unfair edge.
Barack threatens to Veto own defense bill if it includes funding for the stealth fighters.

What do you think???


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Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

President Obama says he’ll veto his own defense bill if money for seven F-22 fighter jets stays in.

By Jennifer Griffin


Monday, July 13, 2009

It’s not every day that a president threatens to veto his own defense spending bill.

But that’s the rare position President Obama finds himself taking after senators made an 11th hour addition of $1.75 billion to buy seven F-22 fighter jets whose price tag has ballooned to about $350 million apiece.

The fifth generation fighter jet has been overtaken by the newer F-35, critics argue, and Obama wants to keep with the recommendation of former President George W. Bush and cap the purchase at 187 jets.

The president’s not alone in opposing the change. He’s also got the Democratic chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee, Sen. Carl Levin, and his former GOP rival Sen. John McCain — a war hero himself — on his side.

But with jobs on the line, other senators are putting up a fight for the F-22.

Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., whose state would lose at least 2,000 jobs should the cap be imposed, pushed for the seven extra F-22’s to be built.

“While the administration is emphasizing winning current conflicts, its stance regarding the F-22 does not adequately account for other kinds of threats,” Chambliss said.

But the F-22 requires 30 hours of maintenance for every hour of flying time and costs the taxpayer about $44,000 an hour to fly, according to confidential Pentagon test results.

“This plane has never flown over Iraq or Afghanistan — the two wars that we are in,” McCain said.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote to senators Monday to express their dismay at the 11th hour addition.

“We strongly believe that the time has come to close the F-22 production line. If the Congress sends legislation to the president that requires acquisition of additional F-22 aircraft beyond fiscal year 2009, the secretary of defense will strongly recommend he veto it,” the letter said.

Gates earlier said the insertion of more money, into the already $680 billion defense budget, for F-22s posed a “big problem” for him.

Analysts say it would be unprecedented for a defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs to urge the president to veto their own defense bill.

But they, and Obama, have made clear that they view such expenditures as wasteful.

“We do not need these planes. That is why I will veto any bill that supports acquisition of F-22s beyond the 187 already funded by Congress,” Obama said in a letter Monday to senators.

Meanwhile, another last-minute potential showdown is brewing that could stall the defense bill.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., told FOX News she plans to introduce an amendment Tuesday that would halt the enforcement of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” legislation for 18 months.

“We are losing some of the best and the brightest when we need them. We have two wars, we have Afghanistan, we have Iraq, we have missions all across the world right now that need the best and the brightest, and I think we shouldn’t be limiting ourselves,” Gillibrand said.

The amendment would halt the Defense Department from removing any openly gay members of the military from serving for the next 18 months while the administration and the Pentagon review the policy.

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274 Responses to Obama apparently considers F-22 Raptor, Racist;Threatens to Veto Bill if funding included

  1. samhenry says:

    What a mess. Barack uses race and class to judge business and legislative matters all the time. But is he succeeding? Take a gander at the Huffy Postie headline that

    Goldman Execs Sold $700M Of Stock, Most Of It During Bailout

    Government does not belong in business!

    Good Call, VF. A post you will NOT see everywhere today. That is your genius. You really keep me doing background reading to keep up with you. YOU are a stealth aircraft – the STEALTHCAT.

  2. samiam60 says:

    Oh Noooooooo, Good Morning to all my friends here in cyberland. Hope everyone has a great day.
    There is lots of Obama News on Fox News Website today.

  3. samhenry says:

    Barack is so super confident that he will have Air Force Fun fitted out with its own ordinance so that he may drop his own bombs and do a bit of strafing on his own for his pleasure. Keep an eye on his flight plans! The F-22 plant in Georgia could be in his sights.

  4. samhenry says:

    Didn’t see you Great Wolf. Standing next to that silver BMW in the parking lot near the dock really makes your camouflage work! Thanks for the FOX tip – I’ll do a little catchup. How are you?

  5. samiam60 says:


    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the Presidential election:

    * Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
    * Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
    * Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
    * Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

    Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”
    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

    If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.

    If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

    “Fear is an instinct. Courage is a choice.”

    Rear Admiral Joseph Kernan USN

  6. samiam60 says:

    Hi SamH good to see you back here today. Now we need you to pull some of those Fox News stories and share your views on them. Ruff, Ruff 🙂

  7. samhenry says:

    Don’t get me started on the illegals, Sami. This is one of the great tipping points for our survival as a nation on so many levels – financial (down goes the government over service charges for illegals who need jobs, medical care, etc., territorial (Mexico regains US territory).

    Illegals send backs can be phased in – the trickle down Mexico way effect. We cannot allow one country’s people who come here to have preferential treatment over those from another.

  8. samiam60 says:

    Obama needs their illegal votes and Acorn will find a way to do that with the census.

  9. samhenry says:

    Sami – the most troubling is the Sotomoto/Obama interpretation of how to judge – to have empathy. That is such racial ploy. White judges, conservative judges – do not have empathy? It is a code word for understanding minorities and it is clearly divisive. We have been thrown under the bus on this one. I will long remember the democrats who vote FOR this nomination. An by the way, how is it that Al Frankin, Freshman Senator suddenly has mike privileges at the hearing? Isn’t that a lot of Hollywood interest garnering and influence peddling bit of advertising.

  10. samhenry says:

    I will check back later, Sami. Have to drive a distance to a CAT scan today. Will catch up with you later for more analysis with you. This is a missed opportunity, geeze.

    Dog lowered into launch for trip to shore.

  11. samiam60 says:

    It’s the Obama Hour SamH. His little side show of celebrity stars who are worshiped as Gods by the extreme Left.

  12. samiam60 says:

    Oh Nooooooooo 🙂

  13. samhenry says:

    PS you are absolutely right about the need for votes. That is the key. Disgusting isn’t it.

  14. samiam60 says:

    Palin attacks Obama’s Crap and Trade as a danger to US economy. Let the show begin 🙂


  15. samiam60 says:

    Obama’s teleprompter breaks mid speech.

    Ohh Noooo

    His response was: A a a a ah ah ah duh ah ah ah


  16. samiam60 says:

    Obama threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill

    Ohh Noooooo

    Obama to Cancelle F22 Raptor


    Putin to Obama: You don’t need anymore warplanes

    Obama to Putin: Oh, we will disarm and you can protect us.

  17. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Noooooooo, Obama Czars being brought into question. Ohh Noooooo, America is waking up, Ohh Noooooooo


  18. rosehips says:

    good morning peeps.

    I see the good ol’ double standard is alive and well this morning!

    Flash: Pork added to Obama’s Defense Bill.
    22 fighter jets at a cost to taxpayers of 1.7 billion dollars in eleventh hour. Republicans wet themselves.

    Do you people really support this addition to the bill?
    Quick, before you go research why we should do this, tell me how this is going to help America?

    Jobs? Those people could be put to work on building infrastructure or energy efficient technology that will move us toward energy independence.

    What are we gonna bomb? Caves of suspected terrorists?

    This is unbelievable…

  19. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning all. TOTUS lost a tele[rompter.

    If a teleprompter falls in the White House, does it make a sound?

    Yes, especially when it’s the President’s teleprompter – or TOTUS as it is often referred to.

    Midway through his speech on urban and metropolitan policy in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building this afternoon, one of his two small glass prompters came crashing down, hitting the wood floor and crashing in many pieces. It made quite a ruckus.

    “Oh, goodness,” a startled President Obama said. “Sorry about that, guys.”

    He then proceeded on with his remarks, “To pull our economy back from the brink, including the largest and most sweeping economic recovery plan in our nation’s history…”

    For the rest of the speech the president relied on the one remaining teleprompter, to his right, and notes on his podium to finish his speech.

    Shards of glass remained near the president’s feet for the duration of his speech.

    The President’s fandom for his nearly omnipresent prompter has become something of a joke, even to him. In May at the White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner the President poked fun at himself, declaring that he wanted to “speak from the heart” and “off the cuff.”

    Two large teleprompters then rose, with a big smile from the President, and laughs from the White House press corps.

    Prompter problems also recently plagued Vice President Joe Biden as well. During a commencement address in May to graduates of the Air Force Academy, a gust of wind knocked over his teleprompter.

    The VP took the opportunity to crack a joke at his boss’s expense.

    “What am I going to tell the president when I tell him his teleprompter is broken?” Biden joked, “What will he do then?”

    Of course, television reporters and anchors never become over-reliant on teleprompters. Never happens. Nope. Never.

  20. Foxwood says:

    No research or feeling needed. Because it keeps America free and betters our defense. Without defense, we have no freedom.

  21. tellitlikeitis says:

    The teleprompter must have gotten overloaded with all the lies and BS on it’s screen.

  22. Foxwood says:

    It is Obamas duty to defend our country. It is his only duty. He bastardizes the Constitution with all of the extra stuff he does.

  23. Foxwood says:

    Ok Rose. Let’s not defend ourselves. Is it ok if the Ruskies come over to play?

  24. samiam60 says:

    Morning Rose and tellit.

    Ohh Noooooooo Rose is in rare form this morning. Save the infastructure create jobs instead of making weapons to defend our infastructure. lolol Ohhh Nooooooo

    Rose says:

    Do you people really support this addition to the bill?
    Quick, before you go research why we should do this, tell me how this is going to help America?

    Jobs? Those people could be put to work on building infrastructure or energy efficient technology that will move us toward energy independence.

    What are we gonna bomb? Caves of suspected terrorists?

    This is unbelievable…

    Ohh Nooooo, this is unbelievable, Ohh Noooooo

  25. Foxwood says:

    Hmmmmm… must of been my typical feeling answer.

  26. m2 says:

    Gooooood Morning!! VF gone again? boo hoo… 😦

    Sam, did you see Fox & Friends just now?
    The “Science Czar” wrote a book about freaky deaky things like Eugenics.

    Why I would expect nothing less from this Marxist takeover.

    sam say: Ohh Noooooooo, Obama Czars being brought into question. Ohh Noooooo, America is waking up, Ohh Noooooooo


  27. samiam60 says:

    Ohhh Noooooo, don’t worry the Chinese will give people jobs when they forclose on America.
    Ohhhh Nooooo, Chinese chain gangs in America, Ohhh Noooo, how did this happen? Ohh Nooooo cry the liberals when we are a defeated Nation and the whole world falls into tyranny from foreign aggressors.

  28. tellitlikeitis says:


    Officials have been frustrated as red-tape and rising mortgage rates have slowed a housing rescue plan announced in February that was meant to refinance 5 million borrowers and lower monthly payments for 4 million more.

    A housing crisis of record defaults began at the end of a five-year housing boom of easy lending but the current crisis is being driven by climbing unemployment, say many analysts.

    “All these numbers keep going up. We are not anywhere near the bottom,” said Jay Brinkmann, chief economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association.

    Traditionally, homeowners have been tipped into default after a personal crisis, but the current downturn is worse as many borrowers have no home equity to soften the blow.

    “What I don’t know is will every job loss, every divorce, every death going to lead to a foreclosure because there is just not enough equity left in the home to avoid foreclosure?” Brinkmann said.

    Recent data from bank regulators present a mixed picture for the industry in responding to the foreclosure crisis as more modifications are being offered while the number of tardy loans continues to grow.

    Servicers implemented 185,156 loan modifications during the first quarter of the year, up 55 percent from the prior quarter, according to data from the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and Office of Thrift Supervision.

    The report also showed that seriously delinquent mortgages, defined as loans that are 60 or more days past due, increased by nearly 9 percent from the prior quarter to 5 percent of all mortgages in the portfolio.

    The Treasury Department asked the largest 25 mortgage service companies last week to appoint a special liaison officer to work directly with government officials trying to stem defaults.

    Treasury will host a meeting with leading servicers on July 28 to hear how the companies are expanding their aid programs and making sure that those seeking help are not improperly disqualified

  29. samiam60 says:

    Morning M2, Fox&Rose 🙂

  30. m2 says:

    The vast majority of the population is unified under The World State, an eternally peaceful, stable global society, in which goods and resources are plentiful (because the population is permanently limited to no more than two billion people) and everyone is happy. In this society, natural reproduction has been done away with and children are decanted and raised in Hatcheries and Conditioning Centres.

    All members of society are conditioned in childhood to hold the values that the World State idealizes.

    Spending time alone is considered an outrageous waste of time. Admitting to wanting to be an individual in the social group is shocking, horrifying, and embarrassing. Conditioning trains people to consume and never to enjoy being alone.

    In The World State, people typically die at age 60 having maintained good health and youthfulness their whole life.

    To grow closer with members of the same class, citizens participate in mock religious services called Solidarity Services.

    – ‘Brave New World’ / Science Czar

  31. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Noooo, Lightning started a forest fire, Ohh Nooo the earth is warming.
    Ohh Noooo, a volcano erupted, Ohh Nooooo, global warming.
    Ohh Noooo, Yellowstone’s old faithful just gushed up some vapors, Ohh Noooo, an iceberg melted.

    Ohh Nooooo, it must be Man’s fault, Ohh Noooo

  32. m2 says:

    EcoScience by John Holdren:

    • Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
    • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
    • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
    • People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
    • A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.

  33. samiam60 says:

    Bible says in the last days we would see knowledge abound and a One World Order. Hmmmmm
    Ohh Noooo, what if it is true? Ohh Nooooo

  34. samiam60 says:

    M2 you are so spot on with this one and are we not already seeing the stage being set for just such an event?

  35. m2 says:

    I’m so sick of slovenly society not paying attention to the loss of their freedoms.

    Hello dorks?

    Obama institutes Czars so he can bypass checks and balances “of the people by the people”…

    This country deserves what Obama gives us.

  36. m2 says:

    60 % of this country is non-political… ie. Self-absorbed and stupid about the laws which govern them.

  37. Foxwood says:

    I’m being silent in the background, Sami, but your being real funny today.

    Then again, your funny.

  38. m2 says:


  39. samiam60 says:

    M2 in my travels I has spoken with a great many of the 30 to 40 crowd in my area and I am so very depressed to find they have not a clue as to what is happening to their freedoms.
    All they care about is the Hope for Change somehow thinking Obama is a good thing and yet they know little or nothing about his policies.
    It seems America is ripe for the picking 😦

  40. m2 says:

    the other percent are the ideological which have been polarized by the media.

    Y’all remember when Congress/Paulson/Bush did Tarp 1? How many news stories did you hear analyzing it? What about gas when it went up in 2008. How many stories across the board (NPR) did you hear about Economic “woes” during Bush.

    Now we have the worst economy in 26 years and the news stories are so fluff…

    No wonder Democrats are surprised to find out how bad things are when the “figures” become known. The media lying to the people and pushing agenda is the number 1 problem.

  41. Foxwood says:

    Trying to get ready for work and forget about Sotomayor.

  42. Foxwood says:

    I know what you mean Sami, I talked to my kids and they are the same. Oh Dad, Your such an old fart.

  43. Foxwood says:

    I just found out my oldest girl is 30. I thought she was still 12.

  44. m2 says:

    I have a friend who claimed he was moderate.. So before the election I sent him emails regarding the power-elite and Obama’s inherent Marxism.

    He’s arty so he wanted to really “fit in” with the typical “liberal” mold, he wanted to be so excited about Obama. He genuinely was- until we started really “talking”…

    Then he became much quieter, more thoughtful. Wasn’t just whipping out the nasty talking point circulating by Democrat’s media.

    He still voted for Obama, but after it was over he said “Thank God that’s over”… and was very quiet… and now is completely non-political and I’m guessing by now he’s rescinding that support… actually he told me in an email that he didn’t have faith in Obama any more.

    But he won’t be open about it to his friends, now he just ignores political topics.

  45. samiam60 says:

    Fox it is so sad because they really don’t even care what might happen under Socialism. They are living for today and trying to get by and the almighty buck is all they seem to care about.

    Ohhh Nooooooooooooooooooooo

  46. Foxwood says:

    Got to make my first stop.

  47. m2 says:

    The other people, I can’t talk to- their eyes just glaze over. Some of them are Republicans too… they just don’t know what’s going on. Well they don’t like it, but they don’t want to know b/c it’s too terrible.

  48. tellitlikeitis says:

    Minority Broadcasters Seek Federal Aid

    WASHINGTON –A group of minority broadcasters asked Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner Monday for financial assistance akin to the aid that has been extended to the financial and auto industries.

    “Minority-owned broadcasters are close to becoming an extinct species,” the letter said. “Even in better economic times, minority broadcasters have historically had difficulties accessing the capital markets.”

    The broadcasters told Mr. Geithner they can bounce back if they are given some temporary assistance while the credit markets are slow. “Unlike the auto business, broadcasting has been healthy for many years,” their letter said.

    The broadcasters appeal follows a proposal sent in May to Mr. Geithner by a group of influential House members asking for a minority broadcaster support program, bridge funding, or government-backed loans.

    The House letter was signed by House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) and a group of key committee chairmen, including Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D., Mass.) Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel (D., N.Y.) and Oversight Committee Chairman Edolphus Towns, (D., N.Y.).

    At a hearing last week, National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters President James Winston told lawmakers that advertisers have severely cut investments in minority audiences at the same time minority broadcasters are having difficulty negotiating loan terms with banks.

    Research from the Internet advocacy group Free Press says minorities own just 7.7% of full power commercial radio stations and 3.2% of full power commercial TV stations.

    Minority broadcast ownership also is an issue important to Federal Communications Commission Commissioner Michael Copps, who was acting chairman of the agency earlier this year.

    Companies and groups that signed on to the Geithner letter included the National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters, the Inner City Broadcasting Coalition, the Spanish Broadcasting System, Taxi Productions Inc., and Carter Broadcast Group, Inc

  49. m2 says:

    Some Obama voters just voted based on Michelle being pretty and them thinking he was “cute”… and they just “seemed” “cooler” than and “old white dude”.

    Seriously, people actually vote like this.

    But anyway, I think the reason he won mostly is ACORN was stealing every battleground state for him. Ha ha ha

  50. samiam60 says:

    M2 that is exactly what happens to a Liberal once they get a glimse of reality.

    To admit they may have been wrong is not possible because of the injury it would cause their egos and Pride.

  51. m2 says:

    yes, but a lot of non-political people wanted to be a part of something and voted Obama b/c the media brain-washed them, and now they’re “reverting to true form” which is Oblivious.

  52. samiam60 says:

    M2 when Obama’s policies hit their pocket books we will hear their screams to hi heaven.
    Ohhhh Nooooooooooo not my money

  53. m2 says:

    Actually, I have read both Andrew Weil books and Christine Northup books… (both doctors yet also in tune with holistic health)

    They say it’s better to go on a “news diet” and be Oblivious to things outside of your control.

    Makes sense, actually. That’s also a Christian teaching. Help your local area and do not try to over-expand… so it’s also, what- a conservative viewpoint.

  54. m2 says:

    Yeah Sam, I was freaking out before the election to my dad… he goes “Don’t worry about it. They’ll come around, when they feel it they will…”

  55. m2 says:

    Did you guys see Hillary Clinton is criticizing Obama b/c he still hasn’t filled key department positions.

    Remember Dick Morris said, if Hill sees a fracture, she’ll strike out on her own… Go Hill go!

  56. samiam60 says:

    Yes Hillary is no dummy and gave Obominator just enough rope. She will now start to pull on that rope.

  57. m2 says:

    At least Hillary has pride in our country.

  58. samiam60 says:

    I hope Hillary has pride in this Country. I still think her and Bill are Socialists.

  59. m2 says:

    Yes, but now I think being a Socialist w/pride is better than being a Marxist with loathing for America.

    Ha ha!

    Bill was much more center-left than both.
    Hillary is more qualified than Obama.

  60. samiam60 says:

    Hillary speaks out.

    Maybe Hillary and Sarah should be on a ticket together?

  61. samiam60 says:

    M2 says:

    Bill was much more center-left than both.
    Hillary is more qualified than Obama.

    M2, I am more qualified than Obama
    Ohhh Nooooooooo

  62. m2 says:

    Obama’s cabinet is more qualified than Obama!
    Ohhh Noooooo

  63. m2 says:

    I think maybe Obama is being a vindictive man to Hill on purpose. That’s why he locked her away as SOS…

    wow he harbors so much resentment… for Hill for country, for business (ie. the economy)

  64. tellitlikeitis says:

    Budget deficit tops $1 trillion for first time

    WASHINGTON – The federal deficit has topped $1 trillion for the first time ever and could grow to nearly $2 trillion by this fall, intensifying fears about higher interest rates, inflation and the strength of the dollar.

    The deficit has been widened by the huge sum the government has spent to ease the recession, combined with a sharp decline in tax revenues. The cost of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also is a major factor.

    The soaring deficit is making Chinese and other foreign buyers of U.S. debt nervous, which could make them reluctant lenders down the road. It could also force the Treasury Department to pay higher interest rates to make U.S. debt attractive longer-term.

    “These are mind-boggling numbers,” said Sung Won Sohn, an economist at the Smith School of Business at California State University. “Our foreign investors from China and elsewhere are starting to have concerns about not only the value of the dollar but how safe their investments will be in the long run.”

    The Treasury Department said Monday that the deficit in June totaled $94.3 billion, pushing the total since the budget year started in October to $1.09 trillion. The administration forecasts that the deficit for the entire year will hit $1.84 trillion in October.

    Government spending is on the rise to address the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and an unemployment rate that has climbed to 9.5 percent.

    Congress already approved a $700 billion financial bailout for banks, automakers and other sectors, and a $787 billion economic stimulus package to try to jump-start a recovery. Outlays through the first nine months of this budget year total $2.67 trillion, up 20.5 percent from the same period a year ago.

    There is growing talk among some Obama administration officials that a second round of stimulus may eventually be necessary.

    That has many Republicans and deficit hawks worried that the U.S. could be setting itself up for more financial pain down the road if interest rates and inflation surge. They also are raising alarms about additional spending the administration is proposing, including its plan to reform health care.

    President Barack Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner have said the U.S. is committed to bringing down the deficits once the economy and financial sector recover. The Obama administration has set a goal of cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office.

    In the meantime, the U.S. debt now stands at $11.5 trillion. Interest payments on the debt cost $452 billion last year – the largest federal spending category after Medicare-Medicaid, Social Security and defense.

  65. m2 says:

    Well I’m gonna go outside, catch ya later!

  66. Foxwood says:

    Tellit info: Minority Broadcasters Seek Federal Aid

    It’s called Localism. Oh no, They won’t do the Fairness doctrine.

  67. samiam60 says:

    Have a great day M2.
    One Trillion, Ohh Nooooooooo

    What will Obama do?

    Answer: RAISE YOUR TAXES .

  68. samiam60 says:

    America is now on the road to becoming but a State in the one World Order. Mark my words we are on that road.

  69. Foxwood says:

    Sami, I know this. Obama has a “in” if Healthcare and Crap and trade don’t go through the House and Senate. It’s his Czars. And this is his wsy to control us until the NWO can get in place.

  70. samiam60 says:

    Fox I am afraid to say this but I think his Czar’s maybe the future American SS .

  71. tellitlikeitis says:

    Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president
    Says he shouldn’t have to go to Afghanistan because Obama is not a U.S. citizen
    By Lily Gordon – lgordon@ledger-enquirer.com

    U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.

    His reason?

    Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.

    Actually, Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.

    Cook’s lawyer, Orly Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in other courts, filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector for his client.

    In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia — the California-based Taitz asks the court to consider granting his client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

    Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. … simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”

    Cook, a reservist, received the orders mobilizing him to active duty on June 9.

    According to this document, which accompanies Cook’s July 8 application for a temporary restraining order, he has been ordered to report to MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., on Wednesday. From there, the Florida resident would go to Fort Benning before deploying overseas.

    A hearing to discuss Cook’s requests will take place in federal court here Thursday at 9:30 a.m.

  72. tellitlikeitis says:

    NHS helplines swamped as swine flu panic rises after death of six-year-old girlBy Daniel Martin
    Last updated at 3:01 PM on 14th July 2009

    Chloe Buckley: She was not given Tamiflu after her doctor apparently misdiagnosed her illness as tonsillitis
    Swine flu helplines are being flooded with calls as panic over the deadly virus rises, it was revealed today.
    Staff at NHS Direct have fielded more than 52,000 calls in the last week compared to a total of 190,000 since April.
    Many of the callers are not thought to be ill but are scared because apparently healthy people have now started dying from the virus.
    The rise in calls is despite health chiefs insisting there is no need to panic and trying to reassure people that measures to contain swine flu are in place.
    Public fears have increased after yesterday’s announcement that a healthy child and a GP with no known underlying problems have died from the virus.
    The deaths of Chloe Buckley, six, and Dr Michael Day mean three people with no previous health problems have now died of the illness out of a total of 17 deaths across Britain.

    Chloe’s parents described her as their ‘fun-loving baby girl’ today as they spoke of their distress for the first time.
    Health Secretary Andy Burnham said it was a ‘tragedy’ today but insisted people must not worry too much.

    ‘There have been lots of children already having the condition but making a very quick and full recovery. We do have to keep it in perspective,’ he said.
    Britain was at the ‘front of the queue’ for the swine flu vaccine and the first should arrive here next month, the minister added.
    ‘We could not be in a better position. So as soon as stocks are made, the very first vaccines will come to this country. We expect to get the first next month.’
    Enough vaccine for the whole population has been ordered and half of all doses are expected to arrive by the end of the year.

    A list has been drawn up of people who will get the first injections, including health workers and patients with conditions like diabetes and asthma.
    Scientists fear a unique strain of the virus has already developed in London due to the sheer number of infections.
    This could mutate into an even more virulent version which could prove more dangerous and faster-spreading.

    However, experts are currently adamant swine flu is no more contagious than the normal seasonal flu and will prove mild for most who catch it.

  73. Foxwood says:

    Tellit, Your on top of it. Beck is just now getting to Localism this morning.

  74. tellitlikeitis says:

    Thanks Foxwood, I try to find news articles to help keep you all informed.

  75. Foxwood says:

    Libs have no respect for the Constitution, Sami. They use it when it suit there need, but the rest of the time they just take a big dump on it.

  76. Foxwood says:

    Is it just us guys again?

  77. samiam60 says:

    What has Happened to My America?

    Where is the Great Republic we fought for?

    What has happened to our Constitution?

    This is not the America we envisioned all those many years ago. How is it that you became the Greatest Nation the World has ever known only to throw it all away because of fear.

    How dare you embrace Socialism and tax my people into poverty. How dare you remove our Creator from our citizens. How dare you hinder Free Speech, and divide this once Great Nation.

    America you need to return to the days of your sanity and once again stand up for the values that made this the Greatest Nation in the World. Return to the morals of your forefathers and stand strong and be brave. No one can defeat a nation that is unified and under God. Return America to your former self and be that light of Freedom for the whole World to see. Do not wait America, stand up and speak out against tyranny and corruption. Forsake what is Evil and replace it with what is Good.

    America does not need change, America needs to remember what made it Great and return to those things that we all stood for, Freedom.


  78. tellitlikeitis says:

    The Economy Is Even Worse Than You Think
    The average length of unemployment is higher than it’s been since government began tracking the data in 1948.

    The recent unemployment numbers have undermined confidence that we might be nearing the bottom of the recession. What we can see on the surface is disconcerting enough, but the inside numbers are just as bad.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics preliminary estimate for job losses for June is 467,000, which means 7.2 million people have lost their jobs since the start of the recession. The cumulative job losses over the last six months have been greater than for any other half year period since World War II, including the military demobilization after the war. The job losses are also now equal to the net job gains over the previous nine years, making this the only recession since the Great Depression to wipe out all job growth from the previous expansion.

    Here are 10 reasons we are in even more trouble than the 9.5% unemployment rate indicates:

    David Klein
    – June’s total assumed 185,000 people at work who probably were not. The government could not identify them; it made an assumption about trends. But many of the mythical jobs are in industries that have absolutely no job creation, e.g., finance. When the official numbers are adjusted over the next several months, June will look worse.

    – More companies are asking employees to take unpaid leave. These people don’t count on the unemployment roll.

    – No fewer than 1.4 million people wanted or were available for work in the last 12 months but were not counted. Why? Because they hadn’t searched for work in the four weeks preceding the survey.

    – The number of workers taking part-time jobs due to the slack economy, a kind of stealth underemployment, has doubled in this recession to about nine million, or 5.8% of the work force. Add those whose hours have been cut to those who cannot find a full-time job and the total unemployed rises to 16.5%, putting the number of involuntarily idle in the range of 25 million.

    – The average work week for rank-and-file employees in the private sector, roughly 80% of the work force, slipped to 33 hours. That’s 48 minutes a week less than before the recession began, the lowest level since the government began tracking such data 45 years ago. Full-time workers are being downgraded to part time as businesses slash labor costs to remain above water, and factories are operating at only 65% of capacity. If Americans were still clocking those extra 48 minutes a week now, the same aggregate amount of work would get done with 3.3 million fewer employees, which means that if it were not for the shorter work week the jobless rate would be 11.7%, not 9.5% (which far exceeds the 8% rate projected by the Obama administration).

    – The average length of official unemployment increased to 24.5 weeks, the longest since government began tracking this data in 1948. The number of long-term unemployed (i.e., for 27 weeks or more) has now jumped to 4.4 million, an all-time high.

    – The average worker saw no wage gains in June, with average compensation running flat at $18.53 an hour.

    – The goods producing sector is losing the most jobs — 223,000 in the last report alone.

    – The prospects for job creation are equally distressing. The likelihood is that when economic activity picks up, employers will first choose to increase hours for existing workers and bring part-time workers back to full time. Many unemployed workers looking for jobs once the recovery begins will discover that jobs as good as the ones they lost are almost impossible to find because many layoffs have been permanent. Instead of shrinking operations, companies have shut down whole business units or made sweeping structural changes in the way they conduct business. General Motors and Chrysler, closed hundreds of dealerships and reduced brands. Citigroup and Bank of America cut tens of thousands of positions and exited many parts of the world of finance.

    Job losses may last well into 2010 to hit an unemployment peak close to 11%. That unemployment rate may be sustained for an extended period.

    Can we find comfort in the fact that employment has long been considered a lagging indicator? It is conventionally seen as having limited predictive power since employment reflects decisions taken earlier in the business cycle. But today is different. Unemployment has doubled to 9.5% from 4.8% in only 16 months, a rate so fast it may influence future economic behavior and outlook.

    How could this happen when Washington has thrown trillions of dollars into the pot, including the famous $787 billion in stimulus spending that was supposed to yield $1.50 in growth for every dollar spent? For a start, too much of the money went to transfer payments such as Medicaid, jobless benefits and the like that do nothing for jobs and growth. The spending that creates new jobs is new spending, particularly on infrastructure. It amounts to less than 10% of the stimulus package today.

    About 40% of U.S. workers believe the recession will continue for another full year, and their pessimism is justified. As paychecks shrink and disappear, consumers are more hesitant to spend and won’t lead the economy out of the doldrums quickly enough.

    It may have made him unpopular in parts of the Obama administration, but Vice President Joe Biden was right when he said a week ago that the administration misread how bad the economy was and how effective the stimulus would be. It was supposed to be about jobs but it wasn’t. The Recovery Act was a single piece of legislation but it included thousands of funding schemes for tens of thousands of projects, and those programs are stuck in the bureaucracy as the government releases the funds with typical inefficiency.

    Another $150 billion, which was allocated to state coffers to continue programs like Medicaid, did not add new jobs; hundreds of billions were set aside for tax cuts and for new benefits for the poor and the unemployed, and they did not add new jobs. Now state budgets are drowning in red ink as jobless claims and Medicaid bills climb.

    Next year state budgets will have depleted their initial rescue dollars. Absent another rescue plan, they will have no choice but to slash spending, raise taxes, or both. State and local governments, representing about 15% of the economy, are beginning the worst contraction in postwar history amid a deficit of $166 billion for fiscal 2010, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, and a gap of $350 billion in fiscal 2011.

    Households overburdened with historic levels of debt will also be saving more. The savings rate has already jumped to almost 7% of after-tax income from 0% in 2007, and it is still going up. Every dollar of saving comes out of consumption. Since consumer spending is the economy’s main driver, we are going to have a weak consumer sector and many businesses simply won’t have the means or the need to hire employees. After the 1990-91 recessions, consumers went out and bought houses, cars and other expensive goods. This time, the combination of a weak job picture and a severe credit crunch means that people won’t be able to get the financing for big expenditures, and those who can borrow will be reluctant to do so. The paycheck has returned as the primary source of spending.

    This process is nowhere near complete and, until it is, the economy will barely grow if it does at all, and it may well oscillate between sluggish growth and modest decline for the next several years until the rebalancing of excessive debt has been completed. Until then, the economy will be deprived of adequate profits and cash flow, and businesses will not start to hire nor race to make capital expenditures when they have vast idle capacity.

    No wonder poll after poll shows a steady erosion of confidence in the stimulus. So what kind of second-act stimulus should we look for? Something that might have a real multiplier effect, not a congressional wish list of pet programs. It is critical that the Obama administration not play politics with the issue. The time to get ready for a serious infrastructure program is now. It’s a shame Washington didn’t get it right the first time.

  79. samiam60 says:

    Fox I think we should dock VF a days pay.

  80. Foxwood says:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

    “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” – Ben Franklin
    “Give me liberty or give me death.” – Patrick Henry
    “Better dead than red.”

  81. samiam60 says:

    Tellit these are very disturbing unemployment numbers even though we knew things were bad the future looks bleak.

  82. tellitlikeitis says:

    Dunkelberg: ‘The Stealth Taxation That Congress Loves’

    I thought I would be protected from having to pay for the barrage of spending programs that Congress has passed or is considering. After all, I was promised that I would not see my taxes go up even a nickel if I earned less than $250,000. Heck, I was even safe with the Biden revision to $200,000 as the definition of “rich”.

    But now I am beginning to see the con, the semantic dodge, the switch behind the curtain.

    We will soon be told the president meant “income taxes” only. 95% of us got a tax cut? Well, even it that were true, how about the other taxes? Mandating employer provided health care will definitely cause money wages to fall and the prices of goods and services to rise (25% of employees of small businesses would prefer cash to a health care plan).

    That’s a tax.

    Current DateTime: 03:59:13 14 Jul 2009
    LinksList Documentid: 31890331
    Consumers’ Mood Sours in Early July
    The Road to Economic Demoralization
    EXCLUSIVE: How Close Is White House To Second Stimulus?

    Then there are higher sin taxes being considered, on cigarettes, soda, and the like. And “cap and trade”, estimated to add thousands to the electric bills of consumers and to raise gasoline prices to pay for the permits. Sales taxes are being raised by states and even cities. This is the stealth taxation that Congress loves. Instead of being angry at Congress for raising taxes, consumers will rail against utilities, refiners, snack food manufacturers, and every business that will have to raise its selling prices to cover the increased costs imposed by this legislation.

    Bottom line, consumers will notice that their incomes buy less stuff because prices are up everywhere, ultimately filling the tax coffers. Governments will have more, consumers will have less. It’s as inevitable as the bankruptcy of GM [GLMOP 23.3181 — UNCH (0) ] (that I predicted in commentaries a decade ago, I have a friend who ignored that warning and bought a dealership!). The unions used their market power with government backing to tax the purchasers of cars – until imports arrived to expose the extortion. That’s what markets do well.

    And how about the $50 billion taxpayer investment in GM? Well, GM’s market value will have to reach an all time record high to give taxpayers their money back. Want to put odds on that?

    Well, at least there are “jobs saved” – union workers still get paid above market wages and benefits at the old Big 3. There will be few new hires at the agreed upon lower “market rate” since these old companies are not going to grow much if at all.

    Now were stuck with it.


  83. tellitlikeitis says:

    Yea we are in for an economic ride to hell. I believe this will be worse than the great depression and you can coun’t on the congress to make it worse.

  84. samiam60 says:

    Have you not Heard, have you not seen what is happening to Our America

    It is time to Wake Up America and speak with a Loud Voice

    Do not let your Freedoms slip into the Night

    Fight for the Freedoms of our Forefathers and the blood that was shed to keep us Free


    Socialism comes to us as a thief in the night!

    Stand up and Speak out today for the Freedom we have all taken for granted

    It is time to take Our Stand against the obvious move toward Socialism

    God help us all and may God Bless these United States of America

  85. samiam60 says:

    Tellit says:

    Yea we are in for an economic ride to hell. I believe this will be worse than the great depression and you can coun’t on the congress to make it worse.

    And we will not stand by and be raped by a corrupt US Government.

  86. Foxwood says:

    I just made an great investment. I just hired a dancer from Bayou Babes.

  87. Foxwood says:

    5$ cover charge.

  88. samiam60 says:


    Ohh Noooooo were gonna get banned.

    Want a beer?

  89. Foxwood says:

    If we’re gonna get banned, mibht as well throw a party! 🙂

  90. Foxwood says:

    Yeah! Pass me a beer!

  91. tellitlikeitis says:

    Siamiam60 said, And we will not stand by and be raped by a corrupt US Government.

    We already are and they will continue to rape us more.

  92. Foxwood says:

    While your getting raped Tellit, Habe a beer.

  93. Foxwood says:

    Damn, Alrady slurrin my wurds.

  94. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Noooooooo, wrong video. Ohhhhh, meant to get Poledancers Ohhhh Nooooooooooo

  95. Foxwood says:

    Yowza yowza yowza!

  96. Foxwood says:

    The cat’s away… time to play!

  97. samiam60 says:

    Phewwwwwwww, that was a great video Phewww

  98. Foxwood says:

    Hey Sami, I need a dollar.

  99. samiam60 says:

    Sorry Fox all Obama left me was Change.

  100. Foxwood says:

    Tellit’s mom, Can Tellit come out and play?

  101. Foxwood says:

    You know, If we could have timed it, Karma could be here.

  102. samiam60 says:

    He will show up I’m sure. I will be leaving soon so show me more……… 🙂

  103. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Nooooooo it wouldn’t work. Fox can you fix this?

  104. Foxwood says:

    It’s broke. I think Kelly is too. Her legs are bent.

  105. tellitlikeitis says:

    Looks like you 2 are having fun here. If I was off today I would be going to a real bar instead of a cyberbar.

  106. LisaInTX says:

    She’s a limber little minx! —lmao at you guys…hahhaaa 😛
    I must say I have never seen swan lake performed in that way, very creative of her…heeeee

  107. samiam60 says:

    Gotta run for now Fox, catch on the flip side buddy

  108. Foxwood says:

    Tear it down boys! We’ve been caught!

  109. m2 says:

    I knew the dem’s were rigging everything last year:

    Goldman Sachs, the Wall Street leviathan that is heavily invested in the cap-and-trade carbon market scam, has admitted it has developed and used software that can manipulate such financial markets.

    The revelation came during proceedings in a legal case with enough plot twists to make even John Grisham proud; it was made, not by Goldman, but by an assistant U.S. Attorney.

    “(B)ecause of the way this software interfaces with the various markets and exchanges, the bank has raised a possibility that there is a danger that somebody who knew how to use this program could use it to manipulate markets in unfair ways,” Joseph Facciponti told a federal magistrate in an unusual Saturday afternoon bail hearing — and not just any Saturday afternoon, but the Fourth of July.

    Facciponti’s comments came at a hearing for Sergey Aleynikov, a former Goldman Sachs programmer, who had been arrested the day before, disembarking from a plane at Newark’s Liberty International Airport. Aleynikov is accused of absconding with the code for the Goldman program and uploading it to a server in Germany, shortly before leaving the firm to take a job with a Chicago start-up for three times his $400,000 a year Goldman salary.

    Aleynikov denies the charges.

    Goldman uses the program for all of its trades

    While Facciponti’s remarks that the Goldman computer program could “manipulate markets in unfair ways” have received attention in the financial press, another, almost equally important statement made by Facciponti has gone virtually unnoticed. According to transcripts of the hearing, as posted at the Wall Street Journal:

    “What the defendant is accused of having stolen from the investment bank (later identified by defense counsel as Goldman Sachs) is their proprietary, high-quantity, high-volume trading platform with which they conduct all of their trades in all major markets in the United States and other places.” (emphasis added)

    In other words, Goldman already uses the software. Implicit in Facciponti’s court statements is that Goldman can be trusted not to manipulate markets but others can not.

    Even if Goldman hasn’t actually rigged markets, the program could be used to give Goldman other unfair advantages; business commentator and author of Bailout Nation Barry Ritholz outlines some possibilities at his blog:

    Theoretically, this would allow GS to buy (or sell) stocks, selling (or covering) them back to the now compromised trader towards the end of their purchase (sale). Or, they could take a position, assuming there was more flow behind the initial order. Or, they could arbitrage a few fractional cents each trade.

    Coincidentally or not, Bank of America analyst Guy Moszkowski says that Goldman Sachs is on pace this year to beat its trading-revenue record in 2007.

    Goldman wouldn’t manipulate markets, would they?

    But what are we to make of Facciponti’s comment that “there is a danger that somebody who knew how to use this program could use it to manipulate markets in unfair ways.”

    Which leads the inquiring mind to ask, How does Goldman know that its program has that capability?

    Goldman, being the good corporate citizens they are, would never have used it that way.

    Or would they?

    A recent article by Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone accuses Goldman of manipulating markets to create speculative bubbles, including the internet bubble, last year’s crazy ride in oil prices, and the current economic bust initiated by the sub-prime mortgage meltdown.

  110. samiam60 says:

    Hi Lisa, I guess I can stay a few more minuets and than off to work…..

    Ohh Noooooo

  111. LisaInTX says:

    Morning guys!!!
    I see a party going on! Yeah Karma will be sad he missed it.
    I’m doing a drive by, heading outside.
    see ya later and thank you everyone for the information posted earlier. :-p

  112. LisaInTX says:

    Hi Sami
    How is the job going?

  113. m2 says:

    I came back in for lunch.

  114. LisaInTX says:

    Don’t you dare do such a thing….the party is fun and I can’t stay, so y’all have some fun! ;-}

  115. Foxwood says:

    Don’t know what your talking about Lisa. We’ve been discussing politics.

  116. LisaInTX says:

    You were right on. The markets have been sabotaged BIG TIME….and many of those ‘Fat Cats” are Nobama supporters too!

  117. m2 says:

    I just saw someone call Cap and Trade, Cap and Raid. LOL

  118. m2 says:

    yes Goldmann, Summers, Buffet!!! HATE.. Geithner -summers protege.

  119. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Noooooooo busted. Ohh Noooooooo

  120. m2 says:

    In the most Orwellian fashion imaginable, the Dems, spearheaded by ‘Populist- in-Chief Obama, have snookered the average citizen into believing that he was their protector, and will keep big, bad business from harming them.
    Little do they realize that the wolf is really Obama and his cap and trade cohorts. While they enslave and bankrupt the country, they will have made off with ALL the profits.

  121. samhenry says:

    Sorry Boyzzzz the ole dawg is back.

    Rose said:
    Flash: Pork added to Obama’s Defense Bill.
    22 fighter jets at a cost to taxpayers of 1.7 billion dollars in eleventh hour. Republicans wet themselves.

    Rose this was to save jobs in Georgia. I find it unnecessary IF they will transfer these funds to purchase the newer model plane. The next industry where we will see more contraction will be the defense industry. The reps from the districts where these corporations are will be dancing to the constituent tune and we will see more of this.

  122. LisaInTX says:

    LOL—-yeah, I prefer a hard working gal hanging off a pole in a tutu everyday of the week to Nobama TAX and SPEND us into oblivion. ..hahaaa

  123. Foxwood says:

    Someone say Buffet?

  124. samhenry says:

    Sami – how about Oy, nooooooo?

  125. samhenry says:

    LISA!!!!! I was just wondering yesterday where the H>>>>>you were. How you doing?

    Morning FOX

  126. LisaInTX says:

    I’ll be Taxing you!! This is great!!!

  127. Foxwood says:

    Morning Girls, Sami and I were just finishing our discussion on… politics, yeah, that’s the ticket.

  128. samhenry says:


  129. Foxwood says:

    Morning SamH.

  130. m2 says:

    Check out this comment that mentions the 550 billion bank run:

    I would be very curious to know if there was any correlation between the automated/high frequency trading pro gram and the banking run last 9/11/08. Yes you saw the date correctly.

    Congressman Paul Jankorski of the House Banking Committee describes in great detail the events leading to Hank Paulson go to the President & then congress to declare the emergency that we now call the financial meltdown.

    I have been shocked that this has gotten so little play and scant media attention. It certainly sounds like a computer operated manipulation program described by GS in this article.

    Maybe shocked is a little strong, given the the negligence by the MSM on Holdren as science Czar appointment, the coddling of dictators in Iran and Honduras, and on and on.

    When you see the rapidity of the actions of the White House, any one of which should be a major scandal, that seemingly raise nary a peep from the media/public one has to wonder at the forces at play. These things coupled with the laundry list of nefarious associations financially supported by Soros and propelled Obama into the oval office, makes one want to go get fitted for a tin-foil hat!

    If this doesn’t have all the elements of a grand conspiracy, I’ve never read a Ludlum or Le Carre novel in my life. I’ve read all of them and even the fertile imaginations of these grand masters of intrigue could never come up with scope and breadth of what appears to be going on today!

    I am reminded of confucion adage “may you live in interesting times”, we do!

  131. samhenry says:

    Politics, eh FOX? So what are these dollars doing all over the floor here? And the poles? You can’t use oars as poles?

  132. LisaInTX says:

    That beach looks like heaven…ahhhhhh….the peacefulness of it all…..;-}

    Hi honey!
    I’ve been busy with RL stuff….had a great sunday, put our 4 year old grandson in the saddle on a real horse for the first time. He thanked and hugged that horse almost til the fur fell off.

  133. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hello Lisa and m2

  134. samhenry says:

    RE grandson – that IS precious! Lucky you!

  135. samhenry says:

    Didn’t know you were still here, tellit

  136. Foxwood says:

    Money? Oh, it’s mine. I got a hole in my pocket. Ummm… Sami? You were supposed to pick up the bee… the water glasses.

  137. Foxwood says:

    Gotta go again. Gotta date with a cell site in DeQuincy.

  138. samiam60 says:

    I got the beer here

  139. samhenry says:

    Uh Huuuh – right. Well you Boyzzzz will have your fun and I’m not the police just the ole dawg.

  140. m2 says:

    dang kids! it’s only 4 min after noon! ha ha

  141. samhenry says:

    oy, nooooooooo

  142. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Nooooo, Fox don’t leave now

  143. samhenry says:

    M2 – Hi, sorry, my manners are in the kennel. Glad to see so many good comments/quotes from your and tellit to review this afternoon.

  144. m2 says:

    thanks SH! I often pop in without nary a Hello these days! There’s so much insanity happening… we’re getting it from all fronts!

  145. samhenry says:

    Ohnoooo – do I have to sedate you whenever FOX leaves?

  146. m2 says:

    hey everyone, I went on Vacation in June, 2008 with my mom and dad. My dad said Soros was going to pull strings. He said it before conservative pundits did. My dad! The visionary!! LOL

  147. samiam60 says:

    Sh says:

    Ohnoooo – do I have to sedate you whenever FOX leaves?

    No, its just that we were having fun is all.

    M2 sounds like your Dad has a very clear vision for truth. He knows and it would be great to have him join us on here.

  148. LisaInTX says:

    Your dad be a smart man!!

    I gotta run too….my son is online from Iraq
    See y’all later…

  149. samiam60 says:

    Ohhhhh Yessssss, I am here with all the Hot Babes

  150. LisaInTX says:

    HI Tellit
    Good to see ya!!! Please keep those information links coming.

  151. samiam60 says:

    But Ohhhh Noooooooooo I will have to leave soon, Ohhh Nooooooooo

  152. m2 says:

    My dad has a degree in Political Science.

    Is that what Lawyers study?
    He’s a business dude salesman though.

    Y’all, my dad is computer illiterate. Which makes it even funnier that he knows so much before the public catches on. He can barely surf the weather.com page or check his email.

  153. m2 says:

    well if everyone is leaving… guess I should take advantage of baby nap and mow the stinkin’ lawn.


  154. samhenry says:

    Sorry Tellit and M2 but I have repairmen in the driveway and that’s no joke the dogz are going crazy. Good to see you and hope to see you later…

    dog out the door

  155. m2 says:

    Hope your doctor appt. went well today SH.

    my dad lately has been talking about the Trilateral Commission (you will note many media journalists are members)… so if you want to do research, you heard it through me, the conduit for my dad. LOL

  156. samiam60 says:

    M2 I have heard alot about the Trilateral Commission over the years. It will play a key role in the One World Order which is coming.

  157. samiam60 says:

    Time for me and Mr. Bill to leave. See you all tonight.

  158. karmahd says:

    Duck, raptors in the da room! I wish I had time to stay, ciao, Karma

  159. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Karma.

  160. tellitlikeitis says:

    A Pest From Yesteryear, Bed Bugs Travel Nowadays

    Sleep tight and don’t let the bedbugs bite. lol

    Janet Hilowitz told me about a recent “lousy experience” in a motel, and sent me photos of nasty red welts on her arms and legs to prove it.

    Ms. Hilowitz, a retired college professor from Massachusetts, was actually referring not to lice but to bed bugs, which bit her arms and legs one night in a Georgia motel during a road trip with her husband.

    The next morning, after she checked out of the motel and got on the road, the pain and itching began. “I discovered I had been bitten all over,” she said. She found a drug store and asked the pharmacist to look at the welts on her arms and legs.

    Yep, bed bugs. The prescription was Benadryl and hydrocortisone, and a warning that she would probably feel uncomfortable for three days.

    “This was my first experience with bed bugs,” said Ms. Hilowitz, who was still angry when I spoke to her, weeks after the pain and swelling went away.

    Yes, bed bugs are back — not just in apartment buildings, but also in hospitals and hotels and motels. A familiar pest before World War II, the little red-brown insects were driven into relative obscurity in the United States by pesticides like DDT — which was largely banned in the 1970s.

    They’ve revived as pest control experts began using less toxic chemicals to combat other insects.

    “In recent years, bed bugs have made a comeback in the United States,” according to Michael F. Potter, a professor of entomology at the University of Kentucky.

    In the case of hotels, increased international travel is also partly to blame, since bed bugs remain prevalent elsewhere and are very adept at hitchhiking in suitcase crevices. At the same time, hotel housekeeping departments have switched to new, more environmentally friendly cleaning and pesticide products, and experts say this may have left an opening for patient and wily bed bugs.

    They like to lurk in bedding and even in headboards. Like movie vampires, they are active in the dead of night.

  161. tellitlikeitis says:

  162. arlenearmy says:

    Hello all … bbl

    I called Lindsey Graham D.C. office
    (202) 224-5972
    to ask that he get much tougher & NOT give her a Yes vote just to get along . I also let his office know that I did not like his “Unless You have a meltdown” remark. My last words to his staff was “I WILL BE WATCHING!!”

  163. Foxwood says:

    “They like to lurk in bedding and even in headboards. Like movie vampires, they are active in the dead of night.”

    So Tellit, your saying our Senators and Reps are like vampires?

  164. Foxwood says:

    Sorry Arlene, Missed you today.

  165. arlenearmy says:

    I missed you also my dear Foxwood 🙂

    Ive been watching the confirmation hearings. Seems thus far Senator Kyl did the best at keeping her feet to the fire. Sotomayor kept back stroking & contradicting herself. I called Sen. Kyl’s AZ office Phone: (520) 575-8633 to thank him. His D.C. lines (202) 224-4521 are busy.

  166. arlenearmy says:

    Maybe Sen. Kyl should be Dr. Kyl cause he proved the Schizophrenia of Sotomayor. That woman acted like she didn’t make those statements. I recall her saying something about her memory sometimes don’t work well.

  167. Foxwood says:

    I wished the Republicans would have asked hard questions like:

    Do you own a gun?
    Are you a member of La Raza?
    Have you ever been involved with ACORN?
    Have you ever made mention of making policy and why?

  168. arlenearmy says:

    I just printed up your questions & I am faxing them to the following republican senators RIGHT NOW. Not gonna waste my time faxing them off to democrats, cuz I know they will not listen.

    Jeff Sessions Ranking Member, R-Alabama
    Fax: (202) 224-3149

    Orrin G. Hatch R-Utah
    Fax: (202) 224-6331

    Charles E. Grassley R-Iowa
    Fax: (202) 224-6020

    Jon Kyl R-Arizona
    Fax: (202) 224-2207

    John Cornyn R-Texas
    Fax: (202) 228-2856

    Tom Coburn R-Oklahoma
    Fax: 202-224-6008


    Lindsay Graham dont have a fax #

  169. arlenearmy says:

    Since Lindsay Graham dont have a fax, I had to call his D.C. office to relay your 4 questions that he needs to ask Sotomayor. The staff told me that he is walking out the door to get ready to question her. Staff said that he’ll be next to question her & that they will make deliberate attempt to pass your questions on to him.

  170. tellitlikeitis says:

    Here the cold hard reality.

    Jobless Rate To Rise

    Talking to reporters in the Oval Office before leaving for Michigan, Obama said the United States is trying to rebound from the most severe recession since the Great Depression, and that the jobless rate probably will get worse before it gets better.

    “My expectation is, is that we will probably continue to see unemployment tick up for several months,” he said.

  171. tellitlikeitis says:

    There will be no rebound. Congress and the president will se to that.

  172. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hello Arlene!

  173. Foxwood says:

    Sorry Arlene, I was between cell sites. I could only call Coburn, because he is the only one I have a number to at work. No fax.

  174. arlenearmy says:


    Here are the phone numbers:

    Jeff Sessions Ranking Member, R-Alabama
    (202) 224-4124

    Orrin G. Hatch R-Utah
    (202) 224-5251

    Charles E. Grassley R-Iowa
    (202) 224-3744

    Jon Kyl R-Arizona
    (202) 224-4521

    Lindsey Graham R-South Carolina
    (202) 224-5972

    John Cornyn R-Texas
    (202) 224-2934

    Tom Coburn R-Oklahoma
    (202) 224-5754

  175. arlenearmy says:

    Lindsay Graham took her to the woodshed. He was lecturing her. He did hit on some points regarding your questions, such as giving tax payer abortions to welfare women (a group that she was a board member of). That group is ACORN related (PRLDEF a group she was a member of for 12 yrs.)

  176. arlenearmy says:

    How yah doing ?

  177. Foxwood says:

    I made it home, made some calls. But I was wanting to see Glenn! Might as well wack some weeds.

  178. samhenry says:

    Fox, tellit, arlene – Lindsay Graham just gave us THE moment in the hearings so far. His questioning in a steady not aggressive tone highlighted some of Sotomoto’s evasiveness. In the end he taught her and all of us a valuable lesson when he read the “Latina Woman” statement and said after that. “Do you realize that If I had said that my career would be over? Do you realize that if I had said that and my opponent for reelection had been a minority that I would have been hung? You really do have to be careful what you say away from the bench. Many feel it is an insight into how you think and therefore judge. He got to the point all of needed to take her and brought her AWAY from her argument that one might construe that comment the wrong way – it was out of context to his firm statement: There are few other ways to take it than that a White male cannot judge as well as a Latina. Then he said what he said above about “do you realize.” Sorry, I just got this all backwards! AMEN

  179. karmahd says:

    From what I am reading it looks as if Sotamomma is a shoe in for the job. OH well she was a republican nominee to the bench in the first place. Maybe now we will have affirmative action for males over 50??

  180. samhenry says:

    I hope we have affirmative action for males over fifty – I practice it myself.

  181. arlenearmy says:

    the above article says: “Apparently Obama considers the F-22 Raptor Fighter Jet to be Racist and gives Whites an unfair edge.”


    How would whites get unfair edge w/regards to the f-22 ? Maybe I missed something.

  182. samhenry says:

    You didn’t miss anything Arlene. The only thing I could think of was dumping the planes would have been taking out a defense contractor and lots of jobs in Georgia.

  183. samhenry says:

    Karm – correction – my affirmative action program is limited to men 65 and above. You get your Social Security and then you have to deal with me.

  184. arlenearmy says:

    Not that it matters, but is the defense contractor a person of color? Im just trying to find the connection.

  185. samhenry says:

    Obama is a person of color; possiblythe company in Georgia is run by whites. The only thing I can think of is that Obama in keeping them out was socking it to a white company – I really don’t know. We need VF to answer all of this.

  186. karmahd says:

    Well SH I have 30 years until I am 65, oh wait, its less than that, I forgot I got old!

  187. samhenry says:

    Arlene – I am very tired from running around today to cat scans, etc. I need to get dinner and then a bed.

    Dog lowered to launch and is motored to shore.

  188. Foxwood says:

    Karma, my motto when I turned 50 was I’m 18 with 32 years of experience.

    SamH, how does a dog get a cat scan?

  189. samhenry says:

    FOX The CAT scan eats the dog – dog just disappears into it. Today was just the head of the beast. Went smoothly but we’ll see.

  190. samhenry says:

    Karm – no one on the blog is good at math. Just keep it at 30 years younger that 65. Go ahead. Make your day.

  191. arlenearmy says:

    My take on this f22 matter was that Obama is trying to smack down on Saxby Chambliss.

    This is what I remember: Obama won the election & as a result black folks in Geogia slack off & did not return to the polls to cast vote for the Senate race. Chambliss was still running against a Democrat. I “think” it was Martin (correct me if Im wrong). But anyways, Martin was begging Obama to stump for him cause black turnout got real low. Since Obama had already won he could NOT show up. Conservatives nationwide massed e-mailed a bunch of disgruntled Obama supporters who were on the barackobamadotcom site & PUMA folks on Hillary site & they were asked to help Saxby & donate $5 or anything they can afford. I was one of the many Obama supporters who got solicited to move over to Saxby’s camp. Saxby won !!!

    So I see this as a retaliation against Saxby.

  192. Foxwood says:

    Looks like Republicans got a lot of emails, faxes, and phone calls, about Sotamayor, and flat out ignored them.

  193. arlenearmy says:

    What do you mean when you say flat out ignored them

  194. arlenearmy says:

    Hey YALLLL… I heard heads up on next segment by Bret Brair on Foxnews saying that Soldier refuses to go to Afghanistan because OBAMA is NOT LEGAL.

    Stay tune folks !!!!! FOXNEWS!!!

  195. arlenearmy says:

    Dont go to rest room folks. Hold your pee for now.

  196. arlenearmy says:

    Oh well… it’s commercial. brb

  197. arlenearmy says:

    just so ay
    A Major in military says Obama was not born in U.S. and that he wont serve under Obama. I need to find the other reportings on this in the Columbus Georgia news paper & Los Angelos Times. They say that a judge has decided to take the case.

  198. samiam60 says:



    Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up this country by landmass each taking a portion.. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

    We don’t like re distributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

    We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.. You can have your beloved homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

    You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters.

    When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.

    We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

    We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Volkswagen you can find.

    We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

    We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.

  199. arlenearmy says:

    I call it secede. Divorces can get messy.

  200. karmahd says:

    Sami did you write that, if so that looks like a good blog post to me!! Well done!!!

  201. samiam60 says:

    Ohh Nooooo, Secede, OHH NOOOOOO, its our Country! Lets run em out and take it back.. Ohh Yahhhhh, Oh Yahhhhhh

  202. samiam60 says:

    Karma My friend so very good to see you. Ohh Nooooo I didn’t right that. It was an email and I thought it was just so perfect. Go ahead and use it if you like my friend.

  203. samiam60 says:

    No Rose or VF today? Oh Nooooooooooo

  204. Foxwood says:

    Arlene, Fox news reported (before the preempted Glenn) that Republicans got a rash of email, faxes, and calls for them to ask questions like we did, and most of them were ignored. That’s all I got out of it.

  205. arlenearmy says:

    OOOOOOOO yess Mr. Bill. Secede may the only option. I know some folks make out that secession is a treasonous offense. But is that not what colonies did to England. Our forefathers committed treason to England, but they are heroes to us patriots.

  206. arlenearmy says:


    These are my personal views of the secession if it occurs:

    United States will be broken down into 3 Countries:

    1. East of Mississippi River
    2. West of Rocky Mountain
    3. what’s left in between – (Central United States).

  207. arlenearmy says:

    I heard that Coryn will question Sotomayor tomorrow. Hopefully he will take up the questions you have raised. I would like to know if she owns a gun.

    Everyone in this household sent a separate email & phone calls. Ive got a bunch of email notices to makes calls.

  208. samhenry says:

    Sami – Rose was on briefly today. She has, in her opinion, been on too much and her school work has suffered so she is taking a blog break one day at a time until she gets caught up. I just talked with her this afternoon. She will be on to tell you this herself. I overdue it and have to retreat. I am not getting on with my life so I have had to cut back.

  209. samhenry says:

    …And SamH will head to the Oneida Nation begging them to take me in! The Native Americans have finally won the wars!

  210. samhenry says:

    I clocked Rose one day and she was on for 12 hours so you can see the scope of the problem. I have a similar love of the blog but my doctor says my health has deteriorated due to hours in front of the computer so I have had to relent.

    Hope you all understand. Dog and Crab been BAD!

  211. m2 says:

    Maybe we can put you 2 on Dr. Phil…


    You really do have to get off in order to get things done.

  212. m2 says:

    Technical question for anyone technical with electronic gadgets…

    I have a 32 inch LCD HDTV Sony Bravia.

    One day a message came up that “not enough air flow in back, fan set to High”…

    Even though I’ve had it 2 years in the same TV cabinet. I can’t find anywhere online that deals with this, other than a slight mention that “dust” could cause the fan to come on?

    Does that seem plausible? It’s so annoying… all high and loud. I have to figure this out before my TV makes me go insane. I’m going to try and clean the back… I guess…

  213. samhenry says:

    Sounds like you have it down re Sony, M2. The engine light in the batty ladymobile came on today and I just saw dollar signs. Life on the edge!

    LOL your comment that Rose and I should go on Dr. Phil. I think you are right on target! At the very least I will write a book: Confessions of a Compulsive Blogger.

    I have noted that you do get off and get a lot done. But you leave us with so much. You are one sharp cookie. I was just mentioning that to Rose today on the phone.

  214. samhenry says:

    Have a call from and old friend. Laters.

  215. m2 says:

    You talk on the phone!

    I don’t get half as much done as I want. I am a perfectionist. I’m watching O’Reilly right now…
    Just found this quote online:

    “We are grateful to the Washington Post, the NY Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications, whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” David Rockefeller – Council on Foreign Relations

  216. m2 says:

    Blitz of “Cyber Attacks” as Rockefeller Bill Approaches

    A determined propaganda blitz is well underway as the government sets the stage for the passage of Cybersecurity Act of 2009, introduced in the Senate earlier this year. If passed, it will allow Obama to shut down the internet and private networks. …

  217. m2 says:

    HR 2749, Martial Law

    HR 2749 would give FDA the power to order a quarantine of a geographic area, including “prohibiting or restricting the movement of food or of any vehicle being used or that has been used to transport or hold such food within the geographic area.”

    [This – “that has been used to transport or hold such food” – would mean all cars that have ever brought groceries home or any pickup someone has eaten take-out in, so this means ALL TRANSPORTATION can be shut down under this. This is using food as a cover for martial law.]

    Under this provision, farmers markets and local food sources could be shut down, even if they are not the source of the contamination. The agency can halt all movement of all food in a geographic area.

    Who did write these bills? It seems Monsanto had not only a hand, but a “defining” influence.

  218. ohiobelle says:

    Hello everybody. I just got home and wanted to check out the new post.

    Obama said, “We do not need these planes. That is why I will veto any bill that supports acquisition of F-22s beyond the 187 already funded by Congress.”

    This is what democrats do… they tax and spend and cut military defense spending. They weaken a nation.

    I wonder how Obama feels now about 11th hour aka 4:00 am additions to a bill….

    I wish I could stick around but I’ve got some work to get done. I will catch up soon!

  219. ohiobelle says:

    Great post vf!

    Hello M2 & SH. I will try to check later tonight.

  220. arlenearmy says:

    I remember Foxwood saying that he’s good at electronics. He may be able to offer you tech support.

  221. m2 says:

    hi Belle!

    Pope’s New Encyclical Speaks Against, not for One-World Government and New World Order

    The Pope actually speaks directly against a one-world government, and, as would be expected from those who have read his previous writings, calls for massive reform of the United Nations. Confusion seems to have come from paragraph 67 of the encyclical, which has some choice pull-quotes which have spiced the pages of the world’s news, from the New York Times to those of conspiracy theorist bloggers seeing the Pope as the Anti-Christ.
    The key quote which has led to the charge reads: “To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago.”
    However, in paragraph 41, the Holy Father specifically differentiates his concept of a world political authority from that of a one-world government. “We must,” he says “promote a dispersed political authority.” He explains that “The integrated economy of the present day does not make the role of States redundant, but rather it commits governments to greater collaboration with one another. Both wisdom and prudence suggest not being too precipitous in declaring the demise of the State. In terms of the resolution of the current crisis, the State’s role seems destined to grow, as it regains many of its competences. In some nations, moreover, the construction or reconstruction of the State remains a key factor in their development.”
    Later in the encyclical (57) he speaks of the opposite concept to one- world government -subsidiarity (the principle of Catholic social teaching which states that matters ought to be handled by the smallest, lowest or least centralized competent authority) – as being essential. “In order not to produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature, the governance of globalization must be marked by subsidiarity,” says the Pope.

  222. m2 says:

    OH MAN samiam!!

    Was I not just saying this today, this very morning!? That the Christian is about local, small… and making it better from the smallest starting point… like Conservatism?

    I’m glad to know the Pope agrees with me! ha ha… Ok, I agree with him. But I didn’t see this news until now, it’s ironic!

  223. m2 says:

    Yes, Arlene.. he might help. My husband is the worst at electronics. I’ve always been the tech geek in our partnership. That’s why he told me to figure it out. lol

  224. samiam60 says:

    M2 it is my most ferverent belief that the Anti-Christ will come out of the Roman Catholic Church and sit on the Seven Hills of Rome.
    Remember too that the Church is a Political Country within a Country.

  225. samhenry says:

    Hi Arlene and M2

    M2 The FDA already has sway over foods and medicines in interstate commerce.

    I have to go to bed. Se you both tomorrow.

    Dog drops from deck into water like anchor but rallies.

  226. m2 says:

    Ron Paul On Fed Audit: We Will Not Be Stopped

    Congressman Ron Paul has vowed that he will not be stopped in his effort to audit the Federal Reserve, as he slammed Senate authorities for blocking the bill earlier this week.
    Appearing on Fox News’ Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano Paul referred to Senate authorities blocking Jim DeMint’s attempt to attach the legislation, which already has 250 co-sponsors in the House, as a provision to a spending bill as a “facade”.
    The amendment was blocked by Senate authorities on Monday after they claimed that it violated rules for provisions attached to spending bills.
    “Technicalities are always ignored for things they want – this means they don’t want it and this is their organized effort now to stop us, but we’re not going to be stopped, it’s just going to energize everybody at the grass roots,” said the Congressman.
    Paul said that it made no sense to give the Fed more power when they had already created the bubble that led to the economic collapse in the first place. The Obama administration’s new regulatory reform plan, which will officially hand the Federal Reserve complete dictatorial control over the U.S. economy, will give the Fed the authority to “regulate” and shut down any company whose activity it believes could threaten the economy and the markets.

    Asked what the powers that be were afraid of should the Fed be audited, Paul listed a number of issues that would be brought to light with increased transparency.
    “I think the biggest thing is the cronyism, who got the benefits, who really got some of these Federal Reserve funds as well as TARP funds, and I don’t think they want people to know about it,” said Paul, adding, “I’d like to know what they’re doing internationally, what kind of agreements they have with international banks, with other governments, and also what they do in the gold market – how they manipulate the value of the dollar by manipulating gold prices.”
    As we have previously highlighted, the Fed has refused to disclose where trillions in bailout funds have gone despite a lawsuit filed by Bloomberg.
    Paul explained that nobody knows exactly what would be uncovered but that was the whole point of having an audit in the first place.
    The Congressman concluded that the Washington elite would do everything in their power to dig their heels in and prevent the bill from passing, because it represents the first major step in abolishing the Federal Reserve altogether.
    “When we discover what’s really going on, I think the American people are going to demand the next step, they’re going to demand honest money – it’s happened many times in history,” added Paul.

  227. m2 says:

    SH, the monsanto deal within that bill means all our food will be GMOs…

    this is something bgb/cher told me long ago. GMO seeds cannot be used after 1 crop…

  228. samiam60 says:

    M2 use a vacuum the back side of the TV gently. If that don’t work use a hammer.

  229. m2 says:

    sam, I think the Pope is saying localism and disbursement of central power tyranny, also he put down the U.N. …so I don’t think he is the anti-Christ. 🙂

  230. m2 says:

    yeah, I’m going to try that! Right now, I’m gonna watch really terrible reality show on Bravo.

    So you guys have a good night!

  231. tellitlikeitis says:

    M2, Tv’s are a dust magnet. The fan is probably clogged with dust and needs to be cleaned. You will probably need to take the back off of the TV and clean the fan blades. Do you still have a warrantee on it.

  232. samiam60 says:

    I am speaking on a Spiritual level. Of course the Pope will reject a sectarian world Order. The Anti-Christ will come on the scene as a Political Leader and bring the Nations together for 3 and 1/2 years of peace. Then all hell breaks loose and there will be 3 and 1/2 years of war like never before seen on the Earth. The Anti-Christ will be Satan incarnate and will deceive a the great multitude. Just think of how Obama deceived so many. The Anti-Christ will be very powerful.

  233. samiam60 says:

    The books of Daniel and Revelation will give you the answers you seek.

  234. samiam60 says:

    M2 didn’t mean to pick on the Catholic Church. The Seven Hills of Rome is a better description of where the Anti-Christ will reside. No offense meant, remember I too was born and raised Catholic.

  235. ohiobelle says:

    What’s all this talk about cleaning a tv??

    M2, get yourself a can of compressed air. That will clear the dust.

  236. samiam60 says:

    More Liberal atheists trying to expel God from America.


  237. samiam60 says:

    The key quote which has led to the charge reads: “To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago.”
    However, in paragraph 41, the Holy Father specifically differentiates his concept of a world political authority from that of a one-world government. “We must,” he says “promote a dispersed political authority.”

    M2 this is what I am alluding too.

    However, in paragraph 41, the Holy Father specifically differentiates his concept of a world political authority from that of a one-world government.

  238. samiam60 says:

    M2 this is a reference to the Anti-Christ. ( A Political leader)(Political Authority) ? Hmmm?

    However, in paragraph 41, the Holy Father specifically differentiates his concept of a world political authority from that of a one-world government.

  239. Foxwood says:

    M2, What Sami and Tellit said on the TV is the best bet. If you kept your owners manual, it may also have some info.

  240. samiam60 says:

    Hey Fox if M2 takes the back off the TV won’t the Plasma leak out?

    Ohh Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

  241. ohiobelle says:

    Hello Fox & Sam!

    I am calling it a night.

    I will talk to you all tomorrow. Hopefully I have more time to chat.

  242. tellitlikeitis says:

    sam, the plasma won’t leak out if you take the back off. lol

  243. karmahd says:

    M2 I second the vac on the back of the TV, its summer and those TV’s put out a great deal of heat, if it is in a closed cabinet, you will have that problem.

    Make sure you use the gargekey attachment on the vac, then point the frapastrat at the dust area, and turn on the ionizer. After that you should be fine!

  244. Foxwood says:

    And make sure you put the thingamajig in the watchamacallit.

  245. Foxwood says:

    I gotta go to bed guys. nite.

  246. karmahd says:

    Karma Thoughts of the day, (short version)

    Hot, sticky day in Florida, temp at 6:00 93 degrees, so I cut the lawn.

    I also did see some “southern senators” grilling Sodamare, sticking it too her with some strong from the bench Grillin! She will get in, this is window dressing, it appears that the republican party is choosing it’s battles. Some barking, some uncomfortable moments, but pretty tame. She stuck to the script, but did appear to be rattled when they read the reviews from her peers, and her “strong” personality, well that is what you get when you pull someone from the Bronx with a strong ethnic culture.

    Passing thoughts, night all Karma

  247. arlenearmy says:

    Nite all
    Its been a very long day for me. Ive been blogging all nite long.

    I want y’all to say a special prayer for Ricci.

  248. VotingFemale says:

    Hi Arlene…

    The F-22 was funded and developed by Conservatives in control of the government.

    Thus it is racist and evil.

    Rose made a comment it was pork barrel added to the defense budget… untrue.

    It was always a part of the Defense Budget and Obama decided to cut it’s funding as the Socialist he is… and thereby cut the jobs of the thousands of folks who make a living manufacturing these aircraft.

    Cutting the F-22 is the last thing that should happen… this plane saves lives of their pilots and are equiv to at least 20 planes of the previous generation. Thus older planes can be retired. This is Military Infrastructure and is seriously needed.
    arlenearmy says// July 14, 2009 at 5:33 pm (edit)

    the above article says: “Apparently Obama considers the F-22 Raptor Fighter Jet to be Racist and gives Whites an unfair edge.”


    How would whites get unfair edge w/regards to the f-22 ? Maybe I missed something.

  249. Foxwood says:

    Morning all. In the dead of night the House passed Healthcare. Over 1100 pages and no one read it. I have a few comments about it. I’ve been sharing my thoughts with Commie libs. It’s been interesting.


  250. Foxwood says:

    now one = no one

  251. VotingFemale says:

    Morning All!

    I will be on this afternoon. Looks like I missed out on some Great Conversations… boo hoo hooo

    please dont dock me a day’s pay! pout!

  252. Foxwood says:

    So… you didn’t miss much. Me and Sami talked some politics around 10 or 11 am, yesterday.

  253. Foxwood says:

    Fox news gaffa again. They have announced it all morning.

  254. VotingFemale says:

    Morning Fox!

    Looks like Rosehips did a drive by and ran away!

    She calls the F-22 “pork barrel” AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    It is not pork and it was not “added”

    Obama took it upon himself to cut it from the Mil Budget and it has been an ongoing process to update the Military with the next generation stealth/vertical take-off and landing/ supersonic multirole fighter aircraft that kicks ass like nobody’s business… I think Obama sees it as Racist… lol

    Brown People Countries Have nothing like and are not going to get it. This fighter can take down 20 enemy fighter jets in the blink of an eye and not even be seen on radar and from a stand off range of close to 100 miles.

    This Raptor is the most kick ass airplane ever to take to the skies and decidedly puts the advantage on our side… you know.. America… which is predominately white and christian.

  255. VotingFemale says:

    IF Obama could have his way all things considered… the US would probably have the military power of Mexico.

  256. Foxwood says:

    It’s depressing VF. I know why he does it, and the ignorant continue to play with their Wii. Don’t they know they’ll go blind?

  257. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning all!
    House Plans to Tax Millionaires to Fund U.S. Health-Care Plan
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    By Ryan J. Donmoyer and Kristin Jensen

    July 15 (Bloomberg) — House Democrats plan to fund the broadest U.S. health-care expansion in four decades by increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans, imposing a surtax of 5.4 percent on couples with more than $1 million in income.

    The legislation unveiled yesterday would place additional taxes on households with more than $350,000 a year in income and calls for further increases if the measure doesn’t hit a target for cost savings. The provisions are intended to raise $544 billion over 10 years.

    House leaders said the plan, which includes mandates to purchase coverage and a public health-insurance option, would cover 97 percent of Americans by 2019. President Barack Obama praised their work, saying it will “begin the process of fixing what’s broken” in the system.

    “We can’t continue to put more and more money into health care,” said Representative Henry Waxman, a California Democrat who runs the House Energy and Commerce Committee. “We cannot go home for recess unless the House and the Senate pass bills to reform and restructure our health-care system.”

    Obama, who has made health care his top priority, has called on both chambers to vote on their versions of the legislation before their August recess. Senator Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat, says that goal may be impossible, and Richard Durbin, the Senate’s No. 2-ranking Democrat, has said the chamber is unlikely to back the surtax on high-income people, further clouding the legislation’s prospects.

    1,018-Page Plan

    The 1,018-page House Democratic plan builds on a June 19 draft and for the first time includes details on how to pay for the measure. In addition to the levy on millionaire households, the House would place surtaxes of 1.5 percent on couples with incomes of $500,000 to $1 million and 1 percent on those with incomes of more than $350,000.

    In 2012, the White House budget office would review the estimated savings from the health-care overhaul. If the savings are $150 billion more than expected, then the government would scrap a planned second set of increases for those making between $350,000 and $1 million. If the extra savings top $175 billion, the surcharge for those incomes would be eliminated altogether.

    The surtax on wealthier Americans would be imposed based on adjusted gross income, meaning it would also apply to capital gains and dividends, which are currently taxed at a 15 percent rate. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said lawmakers targeted high earners because it “causes the least amount of pain on the least amount of people.”

    Corporate Taxes

    The plan drew fire from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nation’s biggest business lobby.

    “The intention of this plan is to tax high-income households, but the real victims would be America’s small business owners,” the Washington-based group’s president, Thomas Donohue, said in a statement. “Since when does our great free-market country punish success?”

    The legislation would raise taxes on larger corporations as well. Among other things, it would make it easier for the Internal Revenue Service to prosecute tax shelters, and deny certain cross-border deductions that some companies are able to claim through tax treaties.

    The House is also proposing a mandate on Americans above a certain income level: People would be penalized as much as 2.5 percent of their income for failure to buy health insurance. Most employers would be required to insure their employees or pay a penalty equal to as much as 8 percent of their payroll.

    Awaiting Cost Estimate

    Lawmakers are waiting for the Congressional Budget Office to determine how much the bill will cost. The nonpartisan agency said in a partial and preliminary analysis today that the plan would run to more than $1 trillion over 10 years and reduce the number of uninsured by roughly 37 million. The agency said that by 2019 some 17 million people — about half of them illegal immigrants — would lack coverage.

    Eventually, the House and Senate must craft a compromise measure, and conservative lawmakers in both chambers have balked at taxes outside the health-care system.

    Senator Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat, said he’s “not hearing a lot” of support for a surtax on wealthy Americans. People in his state don’t like the millionaire’s tax “because they are looking someday to get there themselves,” Nelson told reporters on July 13. “It’s the American way.”

    Republicans also voiced their disapproval.

    “The Democrats’ priorities for health-care reform are now clear: a government-run system financed on the backs of Americans and small businesses with higher taxes,” said Michael Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee.

    Leaning on Lawmakers

    Stumbles in the effort to reduce health-care costs and expand coverage prompted Obama to summon top lawmakers to the White House on July 13 to prod them toward action. The Senate has so far failed to reach a bipartisan compromise, and top advisers to Obama are discussing the possibility of relying only on Democrats to ram the legislation through Congress.

    “Ultimately, this is not about a process,” said David Axelrod, Obama’s senior political strategist, in an interview yesterday. “It’s about results.”

  258. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, the ignorant will finally wake up when the have to pay 10 gallon for gas and a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk cost them 50 dollars. By that time of course it will be too late.

  259. Foxwood says:

    I swear Fox said 3 times it passed last night. Now they say “If it passes”.

  260. Foxwood says:

    And I mean ignorant, not stupid. Two different things. Some people, Tellit, take offense at ignorant. Sitting on your arse and playing your Wii and being oblivious to events is ignorant.

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