Sotomayor Racist Decision Overturned by Supreme Court re: White Firefighters

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Here is the decision:

How many of you saw this Coming?

The United States Supreme Court overturned the Sotomayor decision and in doing so, made a landmark decision to stop Racism against Whites in this country.

The New Haven 20 ( have had justice served at last.

Congratulations to you men and may you enjoy the promotions you have rightfully earned.

supreme court its all about firefighting

By God, there is a fair legal system in this country after all…. oh wait, Sotomayor has been nominated to be a Supreme Court Judge… and who has the grit to stand up to Obama and reject his nomination of a Racist?

And if she is rejected for nomination who is next on Obama’s list of Socialist Judge nominees?

Folks who are moderate and voted for Obama… you rolled the dice and voted for the UNBUSH candidate.

See… there are things that are much worse that Bush, who did his best to do his duty for the country and got many things right.

Now we have a Socialist who is doing his dead level best to tear this country apart… and racism is but one of his weapons.

Lets see what is breaking at this moment in even the MOONBAT NEWS…

Court Rules for White Firefighters Over Promotions


Supreme Court rules for white firefighters in dispute over promotions

By MARK SHERMAN Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON June 29, 2009 (AP)

The Supreme Court has ruled that white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., were unfairly denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision that high court nominee Sonia Sotomayor endorsed as an appeals court judge.

New Haven was wrong to scrap a promotion exam because no African-Americans and only two Hispanic firefighters were likely to be made lieutenants or captains based on the results, the court said Monday in a 5-4 decision. The city said that it had acted to avoid a lawsuit from minorities.

Court Rules For Firefighters In Ricci Case


White Rejected For Promotion Win

(CBS/AP) The Supreme Court reversed a decision in a controversial reverse discrimination suit.

In siding 5-4 with a group of white firefighters who said the rejection of promotions was unconstitutional, the Justices rejected claims by the city of New Haven that it could refuse to apply a test for which no minorities passed, out of fear those minorities might claim discrimination.

The controversy started when New Haven voided its entire 2003 promotional exam after the results made 18 whites – but no blacks – eligible to become officers. When the city decided to promote no one, the white firefighters called that invalid under the Constitution.

The city said it acted because it might have been vulnerable to claims that the exam had a “disparate impact” on minorities in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

When the case reached the appeals court Judge (now Supreme Court nominee) Sonia Sotomayor was on the three-judge panel that rejected the reverse discrimination complaint.

“Fear of litigation alone cannot justify the City’s reliance on race to the detriment of individuals who passed the examinations and qualified for promotions,” wrote Justice Anthony Kennedy. “Discarding the test results was impermissible under Title VII, and summary judgment is appropriate for petitioners on their disparate-treatment claim.”

Title VII prohibits both intentional acts of employment discrimination based on race, color, religion sex and national origin (or disparate treatment), and policies or practices that intentional or not have a disproportionately adverse discriminatory effect on minorities (or disparate impact).

Under Title VII, an employer can engage in an act of intentional discrimination for the purposes of avoiding or remedying a disparate impact only if there is evidence that the employer would be subject to disparate-impact liability. The Justices did not feel New Haven’s action rose to that level.

In her dissent, Justice Ruth Ginsburg wrote, “It is indeed regrettable that the City’s noncertification decision would have required all candidates to go through another selection process. But it would have been more regrettable to rely on flawed exams to shut out candidates who may well have the command presence and other qualities needed to excel as fire officers. Yet that is the choice the Court makes today. It is a choice that breaks the promise of Griggs that groups long denied equal opportunity would not be held back by tests ‘fair in form, but discriminatory in operation.'”

CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen notes that, with the departure of Justice David Souter, the ruling would not have come out differently had it been decided next year. (Souter agreed with Sotomayor.)

The case is Ricci, et al. v. DeStefano, et al. (07-1428 and 08-328). The opinion can be viewed here.


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480 Responses to Sotomayor Racist Decision Overturned by Supreme Court re: White Firefighters

  1. arlenearmy says:

    Still watching Foxnews this morning. There’s something being said by Sotomayor’s camp.

    brb … commercial & cereal break.

  2. VotingFemale says:

    Thanks Arlene,

    I will turn it on… and keep and ear and eye out for it.

  3. tellitlikeitis says:

  4. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit, you get a gold star for the Timely Heads Up on the USSC decision! Dang!

    This really is a team effort… well done!

  5. VotingFemale says:

    I knew it was coming today… just did not know when…

  6. VotingFemale says:

    Arlene? What is the link for the Firefighter blog site you were in contact with??

  7. arlenearmy says:

    Firefighters website is:

  8. Foxwood says:

    Thanks Arlene, Rose for the best wishes. I told my sister to call me anytime if she knows anything. I didn’t sleep well last night.

    Tellit, what kind of dog is that?

  9. tellitlikeitis says:

    Thank youVF, I am constantly scouting for breaking news stories and I post any as soon they becomes available.

  10. rosehips says:

    arlene, thanks for the link to the newhaven20 website. I believe the mayor of new haven is pandering to constituents and needs to find a new job. I can’t say if the test discriminates without looking more into the issue. That the cases were all such a close vote tells me there are valid reasons why the employer’s rights should be protected, but if the test really accurately measures who the best qualified candidates are, race should not be an issue, imo.

  11. VotingFemale says:

    Well said, Rose… It is about Fire Fighting… not Race.

  12. VotingFemale says:

    Arlene, I edited the blogpost and added that link and an additional pic…

  13. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, I think it’s a jack russel terrier.

  14. VotingFemale says:

    Arlene, thank you for initially picking up this story and blogging on it…

  15. rosehips says:

    maybe I should post an ireport on the issue.

    mj is still dominating but there a a few about the coup in Hondoras and a couple on Madoff. I saw one that said Ricky Martin is dead. oy vey. Will the world be obsessing about him now?

  16. VotingFemale says:

    Arlene, check the list of Related Blog Posts for this blogpost. I added your article at the top of the list…

  17. rosehips says:

    just got an email from my rep Cathy McMorris Rodgers. She voted against cap and trade but was able to “secure” funding for the air force base in Spokane. Is that an earmark? Here’s what she wrote:

    “It is so great to be back home in Eastern Washington this week. Last week, we were busy voting not just on cap and trade legislation that would increase the price of energy, but the House also passed the National Defense Authorization Bill, where I secured $4.15 million to replace an outdated and cramped refueling vehicle maintenance facility at Fairchild Air Force Base.”

    I think I should pay Cathy a visit. she may be at her local office in Colville. I’ll have to stop by and see if we can speak.

  18. VotingFemale says:

    Rose… may I suggest you do a wordpress blog post on this subject then provide a reference to it in an iReport lol

  19. rosehips says:

    There is a young guy on my couch whose phone is going off every few minutes. Another guy tried to rouse him and he is out cold. He and Jonah didn’t get to bed until after I woke up around 5 am. At least his ring tone isn’t too bad but it’s starting to get annoying. I’m going to do some stuff. bbl.

  20. VotingFemale says:

    Rose, pay Dave Reichert (R-Washington State) a visit and thank him for being an Obama Socialist turncoat…

  21. Foxwood says:

    Rose said:
    “She voted against cap and trade but was able to “secure” funding for the air force base in Spokane. Is that an earmark?”

    I don’t know if that was in it. I don’t know if anybody read the damn thing. I really wished they’d stop the earmarking. They make lawmaking a game.

  22. rosehips says:

    vf, my wordpress blogposts get so little traffic, but I might post there too. I know I don’t put much effort into my wordpress blogs.

    I hardly post ireports anymore. I thought it comical that a couple of days ago, I made it to the top 10 superstars on the grid. And I have cut back on ireporting by over 90%! haha
    I just checked now and I have been knocked down to the 30th position. lol. What a diff a day or two can do. Looks like I better post something juicy so I can move back up. as if it matters. lol

  23. Foxwood says:

    My source just said no one read the freaking bill completely. I’m guessing the only reading they did was to make sure their part of the bill was there.

  24. VotingFemale says:


    Well… doing a WP Blogpost then referencing it in an iReport will bring more traffic from iReport.

    If I were still an iReport member and blogging on WP I would be doing that.

  25. VotingFemale says:

    When law makers don’t even read the law they vote for… there is Ripe Election Campaigning ammunition to throw them out of office…

    How DARE Lawmakers vote for a bill they have not fully read and understand!

  26. VotingFemale says:

    sotomayor discussion now on FOX

  27. rosehips says:

    and my ireports don’t get much traffic either. sigh.

  28. VotingFemale says:


    FOX NEWS interviews a MOONBAT MEDIA “Journalist” Tim O’Brain, Who just crapped on the Supreme Court Decision?????

    WHO THE ‘F’ is running the FOX NEWS DESK??????

  29. Foxwood says:

    VF said:
    “sotomayor discussion now on FOX”

    Foxwood: Huh?
    Roger Murdock: Flight 2-0-9’er, you are cleared for take-off.
    Captain Oveur: Roger!
    Roger Murdock: Huh?
    Tower voice: L.A. departure frequency, 123 point 9’er.
    Captain Oveur: Roger!
    Roger Murdock: Huh?
    Victor Basta: Request vector, over.
    Captain Oveur: What?
    Tower voice: Flight 2-0-9’er cleared for vector 324.
    Roger Murdock: We have clearance, Clarence.
    Captain Oveur: Roger, Roger. What’s our vector, Victor?
    Tower voice: Tower’s radio clearance, over!
    Captain Oveur: That’s Clarence Oveur. Over.
    Tower voice: Over.
    Captain Oveur: Roger.
    Roger Murdock: Huh?
    Tower voice: Roger, over!
    Roger Murdock: What?
    Captain Oveur: Huh?
    Victor Basta: Who?

  30. rosehips says:

    I believe the legislators rely on the bill’s authors to tell them what is within, or rely on colleagues who are on the committee. But why don’t the aides read them? (and I assume some do). If their aides know them well enough they can pick out the items they know the rep will be concerned about and bring it to their attention.

  31. VotingFemale says:

    Keep an eye on FOX News… they are pulling some strange crap…

  32. rosehips says:

    lol vf. it’s called “Fair and Balanced” remember?

    vf said: WHAT???!!!????

    FOX NEWS interviews a MOONBAT MEDIA “Journalist” Tim O’Brain, Who just crapped on the Supreme Court Decision?????

    WHO THE ‘F’ is running the FOX NEWS DESK??????

  33. Foxwood says:

    I told you VF, Fox has been going Lib since they started going gren.

  34. rosehips says:

    vf, they are justing “priming” themselves for when they have to provide opposing viewpoints and a more balanced “sanitized” version of the news of the day. haha

  35. Foxwood says:

    You might be right Rose.

  36. VotingFemale says:

    There was no balance in that FOX News “interview”… it was clearly pro-socialist…

  37. rosehips says:

    foxy, Fox News went green? So they “crapped” on the USSC decision to kill Lower Slate Lake? I didn’t hear any dissention about that decision coming from them, but then again I didn’t check.

  38. Foxwood says:

    Rose, you laugh at me the other day, but I really do think Fox is sizing up the situation to go with the flow.

  39. VotingFemale says:

    FOX News has been acting Schizoid ever since Obama complained about their “Pretty Big Megaphone”

  40. Foxwood says:

    If Fox keep this up, talk radio with be the last sanctuary, until the Fairness Doctrine or Localism.

  41. rosehips says:

    did you find any validity whatsoever in what the guy was saying vf?

    I think what with all the money and time the newhaven20 spent preparing for the test, it is a travesty that they were not promoted. But did the black guys study hard too? I haven ‘t really seen what their argument was about. I don’t want to turn on the tv cuz this guy is on my couch, but the news stories I read didn’t get into the details enough.

  42. VotingFemale says:

    Just after FOX Started acting Schizoid, Obama, in his first press conference following that interview with MSNBC, made a specific point to take the first question from Major Garrett of FOX News…

  43. Foxwood says:

    Yeah, Fox went green. I was not happy, because it sounded to me like they jumped the fair and balanced ship.

    They don’t make as big a deal about it like they did a month ago.

  44. rosehips says:

    green in what way foxy?

  45. rosehips says:

    I just got this in my email. Sorry to be off topic. I find it interesting:

    New Reports Focus on Failure to Disclose Climate Change Risk in Corporate Filings
    Contributed by Sive Paget & Riesel PC

    June 29 2009

    Two reports released on June 3 2009 criticize current disclosure of climate change risk by many public companies and call for specific climate change disclosure guidance from the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). “Reclaiming Transparency in a Changing Climate: Trends in Climate Risk Disclosure by the S&P 500 from 1995 to the Present”,(1) commissioned by the Centre for Energy and Environmental Security, Environmental Defence Fund, and Ceres, analyzed approximately 6,400 10-K filings by Standard & Poor’s 500 companies in the utilities, energy, materials, industrial, financial, consumer products, information technology and technology sectors. The report found that “there is an alarming pattern of non-disclosure by corporations regarding climate risks”. It also found that:

    76.3% of 2008 annual reports filed included no mention of climate change;
    only 5.5% of 2007 annual reports identified at least one risk posed by climate change and articulated a strategy for managing and mitigating that risk;
    less than 10% of companies in the financial sector discussed climate change in their 10-K filings; and
    the utilities sector had the highest disclosure rate.
    The second report, “Climate Risk Disclosure in SEC Filings”,(2) prepared by The Corporate Library, assessed climate risk disclosures in the 2008 first quarter filings of 100 global companies in the electricity, utilities, coal, oil and gas, transportation and insurance sectors. The report concluded that most companies failed to discuss their greenhouse gas emissions or their position on climate change in their filings. The utilities sector had the highest ranking because three of the 26 companies studied disclosed the risk climate change posed to their businesses and two companies disclosed actions to address climate change.

    Both investors and regulators are demanding greater disclosure of climate risks. For example, the Global Framework for Climate Risk Disclosure was developed by investors to encourage standardized reporting from companies. In 2007 the New York attorney general subpoenaed five major energy companies amid concerns that the companies did not disclose material information about increased climate risks. The subpoenas resulted in two of the companies entering into settlement agreements with the Attorney General’s Office. Unless and until the SEC issues more specific guidance, the New York attorney general’s settlement framework may represent the most complete articulation of factors to be considered in connection with disclosure of climate change risk.

  46. VotingFemale says:

    Fox, that would explain FOX ignoring the CAP & Trade vote and kept their focus on Michael Jackson…

    There be some back room goings on…

  47. Foxwood says:

    Like I was going to pay attention?! All I heard was green and I changed channels.

  48. Foxwood says:

    I’m sure VF. Something is going down.

  49. VotingFemale says:

    Rose… when you stop ignoring the Censoring of the Latest EPA climate change report which shows there is no global warming going in… I will consider listening to you…

    you selectively hear what you want to hear… and in doing so are not being an independent thinker… you are letting others do your thinking for you dear…

    ignoring these reports and ignoring they are being covered up by the Obama Administration is not cool…

  50. Foxwood says:

    I would almost bet it’s some administration arm twisting. Just my gut.

  51. Neil says:

    This was good news, though still sad that the vote was 5-4 and not 9-0.

  52. rosehips says:

    vf, I will disregard your condescending tone and to defend myself I will say that I am not ignoring anything. I am all ears. If climate change is not something we should be worried about, I will welcome the evidence that shows this. I have not been convinced that this is true. Have you shown one ounce of proof that climate change is a hoax? (or must I prove you wrong?) Global warming theories have been replaced by climate change theories. I admit they are just theories. No one knows for sure. I feel strongly that human activity impacts the climate. I don’t know how much. I believe that climate change is natural, but have serious questions about our influence. I think anyone who unequivocally dismisses the significance of our impact is a fool.

  53. VotingFemale says:

    Neil, I agree with you…

    it was down party lines… and the SCOTUS is not supposed to be political… but that is a pipe dream.

  54. VotingFemale says:

    I apologize if it sounds condescending…

    and I never once saw you acknowledge that report… you ignored it.

    If there is no global warming… what is the point of trying to stop global warming to the tune of Trillions of Dollars? The point is MONEY and POWER for SOCIALISTS… and their FAT CAT Buddies who stand to gain many billions for their Companies…

    rosehips says

    vf, I will disregard your condescending tone and to defend myself I will say that I am not ignoring anything. I am all ears. If climate change is not something we should be worried about, I will welcome the evidence that shows this. I have not been convinced that this is true. Have you shown one ounce of proof that climate change is a hoax? (or must I prove you wrong?) Global warming theories have been replaced by climate change theories. I admit they are just theories. No one knows for sure. I feel strongly that human activity impacts the climate. I don’t know how much. I believe that climate change is natural, but have serious questions about our influence. I think anyone who unequivocally dismisses the significance of our impact is a fool.

  55. rosehips says:

    at least I do not leave the room whenever a viewpoint is raised that opposes mine. I think for myself no matter what you say. I listen to what others say, on all sides. I look at where the information comes from.

    I am sorry that I view some of the sources of information that comes from the right as very suspect. I see self-interests all over the copy. Fox, WND, Wash Times, Michelle Malkin, they all profit from the scandals they perpetrate. And the same can be said for MSNBC and Huff Post. I don’t think Free Speech TV does the same. I have more respect for them then any media, call them what you wish. With that said, I don’t watch fstv nearly enough, unless Jonah turns it on. I can only tolerate serious news to a point. It gets me too worked up.

  56. Foxwood says:

    Neil, good to see you. How did you find us?

  57. VotingFemale says:


    The Obama Environmental Protection Agency

    That is a MATTER OF RECORD…

  58. VotingFemale says:

    The EPA says there is no Global Warming… and the Obama Administration is trying to Bury that DATA from the EPA….

    THAT is the long and short of THAT

    and you ignore it… no offense

  59. Foxwood says:

    Climate change in not a hoax Rose, just man made global warming or what ever they call it today. We can’t control it. We can control pollution.

  60. Foxwood says:

    I’ve got to admit Rose, you don’t walk off. 🙂

    What’s the word? tenacious.

  61. VotingFemale says:

    I think she did what I do when I get PO’ed… I leave the keyboard and go cool off… and that is a wise thing… something we all need to do when it happens.

    Rose knows I love her to pieces… and am debating… but I am not angry… just making a point…

  62. rosehips says:

    vf, I will do research into this. I’m sorry that I overlooked the vid in your previous post on cap and trade, that accuses the EPA of suppressing evidence. But the guy in the vid might not be objective when he calls it evidence. I will check into it.
    You provide a lot of links and vids and it is not feasible to see everything.

    I remember mentioning that anything in excess is toxic. That is a fact and an excess of CO2 would be polluting, imo.

    I think that saying that CO2 in not a pollutant is a matter of semantics. CO2 is natural and per se is not naturally a pollutant. Mercury is natural and in it’s natural state is not a pollutant. But when you change its natural state and extract it, it becomes very toxic. When we emit CO2 when we burn fossil fuels I believe we are creating pollution.

  63. Foxwood says:

    I’ve been trying to make an effort as well, but she may be like me (busy) and getting back to it as she can.

  64. rosehips says:

    no didn’t walk off, just checking what is was I missed that got you so po’d. 😉

  65. rosehips says:

    and here is the source from the guy in the vid. These are all the eds of Thomas Fuller

  66. Foxwood says:

    I do believe Rose. that if we replant trees as we use them tho, it offsets the excess. I just don’t think Big Brother needs to babysit us and make us do it.

  67. Foxwood says:

    I don’t thing Big Brother has our best interest in mind.

  68. VotingFemale says:

    Well, Rose, you bring up a valid point… I think we all tend to close our ears to a valid message because of who the messenger is…

    note I quoted two Socialist News Outlets in this very blogpost… and I watch CNN… as well as FOX.

    Why? to hear the stories from both points of view… to filter out spin and bias…

    I decide what I believe… and I am more interested in FACTS than being right or wrong… when armed with FACTS I can counter all arguments which are political in nature and not fact based.

    That is why I called out that you ignored the EPA report pointing to hard evidence that there is no Global Warming Trend…

  69. SamHenry says:

    Well now – what a fine how do you do. I leave for 2 hours and come back ad the blog is atwitter with litter. Give me some focus, maestro. Actually I have to get back to some outdoor activities since this may be the only time the sun shines this week. You know that saying “PUT IT WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE”? Someone in Rochester, NY coined that phrase. Happens here all the time. We are the dark storage capitol of the world.

  70. VotingFemale says:

    Now… The Enchanted One just got Air Time on Cap and Trade… and instead of touting it as a fix for Global Warming, he switched tactics and touted it as reducing dependence on Foreign Oil…

    Even Obama is now being forced to step away from the myth there is Global Warming… yet, Cap and Trade is a red herring to “Fix” something this is not broken… and it could not fix Global Warming even if the Globe was warming…

    Cap and Trade is a Political Shell Game to Take Money from Tax Payers for ulterior reasons… it is a Snow Job…

  71. SamHenry says:

    OMG – a FACT CAT – the fat cat went to jail this AM.

    Dog overboard

  72. VotingFemale says:

    “Big Brother” is in it for Big Brother… which, like War, grows itself for its own sake… it is like a self replicating virus which lives to feed off the host.

    Foxwood says

    I don’t thing Big Brother has our best interest in mind.

  73. VotingFemale says:

    yeah… that FAT CAT got what he deserved…

    SamHenry says

    OMG – a FACT CAT – the fat cat went to jail this AM.

    Dog overboard

  74. SamHenry says:

    Back on board to repost what I posted in the early hours. This is from the ECONOMIST and is the endgame with the world population and aging we are dealing with versus available productivity and dollars. We need to stop spending NOW.

    STOP thinking for a moment about deep recession, trillion-dollar rescue packages and mounting job losses. Instead, contemplate the prospect of slow growth and low productivity, rising public spending and labour shortages. These are the problems of ageing populations, and if they sound comparatively mild, think again. When the IMF earlier this month calculated the impact of the recent financial crisis, it found that the costs will indeed be huge: the fiscal balances of the G20 advanced countries are likely to deteriorate by eight percentage points of GDP in 2008-09. But the IMF also noted that in the longer term these costs will be dwarfed by age-related spending. Looking ahead to the period between now and 2050, it predicted that “for advanced countries, the fiscal burden of the crisis [will be] about 10% of the ageing-related costs” (see chart 1). The other 90% will be extra spending on pensions, health and long-term care.

  75. SamHenry says:

    My ears are wet, not closed – dog overboard.

  76. rosehips says:

    vf, I believe that its important to continue to follow the very latest trends and evidence in climate. I agree there is much scientists have learned since 2005 that could dispute the current “school of thought”. But this new school of opposing thought may also end up being disputed and dispeled. The guy admits how hard it is to change policies to adapt to the newest evidence, but I think it’s important to do if we are talking about such significant impacts to the economy on those policies.
    I hope that this Carlin guy can get some high profile respected scientists to back his allegations. I think that’s what he needs to influence the likes of Al Gore and the Global Warming advocates.

    I know that there is a certain amount of self serving of interests in the scientific community. Why would a scientist shift positions? Well, for one because it is the right thing to do if he/she indeed sees that there may be even partial validity to the objection. I would like to think that most scientists have the integrity to do that.

  77. VotingFemale says:

    What the hell is this morbid fascination with death of celebrities by the Media?

    Now FOX just played the 911 call re:Billy Mays

    I had to go google Billy Mays when his death was first reported… to see who he was.

    oy vey

  78. Foxwood says:

    Or it has to do with money.

  79. VotingFemale says:

    Rose, there is a huge difference between “schools of thought” and factual DATA…

    FACT: The globe temp has been measured… it is not in a warming trend… in fact it is in a cooling trend and the data is pointing to that cooling trend to continue for the next 20 to 30 years…

    rosehips says

    vf, I believe that its important to continue to follow the very latest trends and evidence in climate. I agree there is much scientists have learned since 2005 that could dispute the current “school of thought”. But this new school of opposing thought may also end up being disputed and dispeled.

  80. Foxwood says:


  81. VotingFemale says:

    Al “I invented the internet” Gore jumped on a band wagon for political purposes and the DATA proves he was wrong…

    Al Gore is going to be the laughing stock of the world over this.

  82. Foxwood says:

    No more billy mays jokes… 😦

  83. Foxwood says:

    He’ll be a rich laughing stock tho…

  84. VotingFemale says:

    Fox, next thing you know the ShamWow guy will croak and we will be subjected to his 911 call and non-stop “NEWS” coverage looping 24/7 while the Senate holds votes for Cap and Trade…

    The weirdness of it all is mind boggling…

  85. rosehips says:

    vf, if you look at the trend since 1895, temps have clearly risen. If today is cooler than yesterday and tomorrow is cooler than today, then the “fact” is we are in a cooling trend. You can skew facts to show whatever you want, really.

  86. Foxwood says:

    Washington has an assassin knocking off these guys to divert the news. It’s a conspiracy.

  87. Foxwood says:

    and if you look at the trend since the Jurassic age, we have cooled.

  88. VotingFemale says:

    oh yeah… and that is the whole point…

    Cap and Trade is about taking money from tax payers for Power and Profit, to the benefit of Socialists and their FAT CAT Pals in Big Business!

    Foxwood says

    He’ll be a rich laughing stock tho…

  89. Foxwood says:

    There is no way you can take a date and call it definative.

  90. Foxwood says:

    We were in a little ice age in the 14th century because of Mt. Penawhosit.

  91. rosehips says:

    I don’t think many people knew Billy Mays name until he bumped his head on the plane that blew a tire. Now he will go down in history as an example of machismo stupidity for refusing to get medical treatment. I am not following the story closely at all, I could care less but I do find it interesting that the media focuses on these celebrity deaths. I think there are not enough celebrity scandals right now to divert our attention away from the news. Things continue to be very bad for Iranians, but like Pakistan, Thailand, and all the other grave issues around the globe, the news selects the issues based on viewership. More people tune in to hear about mj and the oxyclean guy than about cap and trade or sotomayor or iran.

  92. Foxwood says:

    Rose, Fox isn’t covering any news. It looks like Entertainment Tonight. Fox radio is doing much better tho.

  93. rosehips says:

    what about the trend since the big bang vf? lol

  94. Foxwood says:

    I think we’ve cooled off alot since then…:)

  95. Foxwood says:

    Hey! Where’s my smilley face!

  96. Foxwood says:

    Ok… There he is…


  97. Foxwood says:

    I got to get to my next stop. BBL.

  98. SamHenry says:

    Just a quick hit fox, Rose – Let’s just play the global warming thing the way the Italians play life: Batta be batta bo. You can plan too carefully. I don’t think that anyone can say we are at a climate tipping point. We are little aunt on this round ant “hill” trying to see things that are bigger than we are. We can drill down to study ice layers, collect data from the point of view of outerspace and check the stomach contents of mummies and still we will not be able to get our arms around it. The very best we can do is deal with what we can when we can. We know for a fact that the population is growing and graying exponentially. THAT should encourage us to get spending under control. The good/bad news is that in another 100 years, the cost of overpopulation should slow because the older generations will have died and the fact that people today are not having as many children will kick in. Population is the key culprit – ahead of global warming if it exists. I think that we are in a cycle back to the ice age. And these are the facts and opinions I have assembled on Monday 29 June 2009 at 14:36 hours.

  99. Foxwood says:

    Heard this on Fox News Radio. The 300+ pages added to the bill before it passed has a provision in it that says your house has to pass an energy code before you can sell it. If your insulation, windows, stove heat and air are not up to this code, you can’t put your house up for sale. Thanks Big Brother.

    I bet if you don’t have smart grid installed, you can’t sell, at some point in time. Thanks GE.

  100. Foxwood says:

    Also heard on Fox, Honduras has just overthrown it’s socialist leader for a more democratic leader, Chavez and Obama have denounced the coup.

    Found a link.

  101. rosehips says:

    lol, a coup that imposes a democratic leader. a democratic coup? that oxymoronic, no?

  102. rosehips says:

    thanks for the links foxy. when I saw the headline about the coup yesterday I knew it was major but then have put it in the back of my mind.
    You don’t think Obama should have backed the coup do you? It looks like Zelaya was a strong critic of Obama, but the US has dirtied its hands in Central American coups enough in our history. the last thing we needed was to be involved. Obama did the absolutely right thing in trying to prevent the coup. All the guy was trying to do was have a referendum, by the people, to extend his term limits. Why not let the people decide. Of course if the election is rigged, or votes bought, it is not true democracy. But rousted the Presidente out of bed and kidnapping him cannot be disguised as democracy.

  103. Foxwood says:

    Your talking about my Fox News Radio! 😦

  104. Foxwood says:

    It’s just me, but if it were Reagan or maybe Bush, we’d back the democratic leader. It looks like Obama likes the socialist one to me.

  105. Foxwood says:

    Our goal should be to promote democracy. Yes, I beleive we need to be involved. We haven’t done enough and need to be more like Reagan..

  106. Foxwood says:

    Damn dyslexic fingers.

  107. VotingFemale says:

    The American Revolution of 1776 was just such a coup…

    Go read the full article… that butt head was trying to violate the constitution by going around it to get a change in the law to allow him to get reelected past the period of reelection cut-off and was doing it within 6 months of leaving office… which is strictly forbidden by the constitution. The guy is a bad guy…

    rosehips says

    lol, a coup that imposes a democratic leader. a democratic coup? that oxymoronic, no?

  108. rosehips says:

    vf, I have read the article and also done some other reseach including read ireports coming right out of honduras.

    it is a complicated issue. I see both sides.

    I see that Zelaya is a democratically elected leader who has lost sight of who he is working for. He is a typical despot wannabe, it appears. He is apparently in bed with Chavez and is trying to change the constitution to seize more control. This is wrong.
    I’m not sure the Congress is justified to order the military to remove him. If they are, then indeed it is not a “coup” as some in Honduras are insisting.
    If their constitution allows for Congress to vote and remove the President and if they did that legally, then I will support it.

    President Obama was quoted as saying the “coup” was not legal.

    Clinton said they are not calling for Zelaya’s reinstatement nor cutting aid at this point.

  109. rosehips says:

    I think it best to let the Latin America countries try to resolve it. I do not agree that we should be involved. I understand the fear that some have watching Chavez increase his influence, but we have enough blood on our hands from our involvement in latin american coups throughout history.

  110. SamHenry says:

    OK I don’t know if iI have this down you three but here goes. Z should be out of office because he tried to pull off a very unconstitutional thing. The same obtains in Iran. No hanky con panky in SA. If Chavez had nukes no way we would be opening our mouths but we should.

  111. SamHenry says:

    Rose – how about getting involved with our pals at the UN and in other regional alliances. We just can’t leave it to Chavez. The Chinese are, as in Africa, very active down there. It is not simply a question of regional powers.

  112. Foxwood says:

    “He is apparently in bed with Chavez and is trying to change the constitution to seize more control. This is wrong.”

    The same thing is happening here. Obama wants to change the Constitution, but for now is happy with ignoring it.

  113. Foxwood says:

    It is our duty to spread Democracy. That was Ronnie Reagan’s goal. We need to continue it.

  114. Foxwood says:

    Democracies do not wage war on each other. They treat their citizens with respect. Socialist/Communist countries do not respect their people.

  115. newsbird says:

    Hello VotingFemale and Co.!

    VF: “The weirdness of it all is mind boggling…”

    That is so funny because that is exactly what has stopped me in my tracks. How can all of this be happening? The Oxy guy’s death on cnn front page? I love the product he shouted about and knew his face but why on earth would he be on

    This cap and trade is a crisis waiting to happen. It is so absurd that it really is mind blowing how 6 from the GOP voted for it. I posted a blog on the issues of regulating carbon. Why should we think this new derivates market will not create a subprime carbon crisis? They are trying to implement something totally new to all regulators in a rush and all I can see is an unmanageble mess in the future… the same barbarians are at the gates as before… more looting and fraud and waste.
    Obama wants this bill so he can meddle in and shut down companies at will.

    If he now wants to promote this as a cap on oil imports why not just implement a tax on all imported oil? No need for a huge new government arm with fingers everywhere just like the IRS.

  116. newsbird says:

    I agree with you – we need to support democracy on the globe.
    Unfortunately we will not be a good example of it and I am sure Obama will spread the wealth in the USA and then globally – his dream is his Global Poverty Act. Have you read it? If it passes we will not be an independent nation anymore.

  117. VotingFemale says:

    OMG this is SO FUNNY!!!!

  118. VotingFemale says:

    Hi News, nice to see you

  119. rosehips says:

    and how exactly do we “spread” democracy foxy?

    foxy said: It is our duty to spread Democracy. That was Ronnie Reagan’s goal. We need to continue it.

    vf, that link was a riot.

  120. LisaInTX says:

    I’m STILL in shock!!! That it was overturned and REAL justice has been given —wow….just when you thought it could NEVER happen again, BAM!! lol

  121. Foxwood says:

    The same way Reagan did it. Pass the guns.

  122. Foxwood says:

    Rose, you won’t see Obama spread anything but socialism, That’s why he’s all for the old leader.

  123. Foxwood says:

    Thanks, Newsbird. Reagan was a true leader.

  124. rosehips says:

    sh, I hear you about the UN. I think that first I’d like to see how the latin countries who are meeting react. I think the UN should be involved. I really don’t pretend to know what the best strategy is. I think caution is best and I think the old school of “Reagan-style” diplomacy won’t go over very well these days. of course the thought of Obama’s admin orchestrating a coup or any covert military operations is laughable. I don’t think moderate Americans what that either. If the extreme right only had their way the world would be one big game of Risk.

    I know that Obama will be criticized no matter what he does. It is just how it is.

  125. rosehips says:

    so foxy, are you saying that our military operations in latin america were responsible for spreading democracy?

  126. Foxwood says:

    My opinion is Reagan style worked. Don’t change. But you can’t say that today. Yes Reagan can work. Get rid of the Socialist crap and go back to what worked. Capitalism worked for 200 years. What changed? We became socialists. Capitalism works. 200 years of proof in history, Rose.

  127. rosehips says:

    Reagan Spurred Latin Democracy? Nonsense.
    By William D. Rogers; William D. Rogers was Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs in the Ford Administration.
    Published: Friday, August 5, 1988
    It will come as a big surprise in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Ecuador to learn that the Reagan Administration claims leadership of the recent democratic advances in those countries. Democracy has indeed enjoyed a remarkable renaissance in the hemisphere during President Reagan’s watch. But there is little to suggest that his Administration brought about these changes.

    In fact, the recent transitions to democracy in these nations have been the work of local leadership. For this country to claim credit gives offense to the truth, the principle of nonintervention and the real heroes of the struggle.

  128. Foxwood says:

    You can’t impeach Reagan now? It doesn’t matter if the truth comes out anymore.

  129. Foxwood says:

    Then you don’t know history Rose.

  130. LisaInTX says:

    That Obama was silent then stated we should not “Meddle” in the Iranian elections—not show support for democracy, and now to quickly react in accordance with Chavez over Honduras, is exactly what I would expect of him. The man is a die hard Marxist bent on destroying democracy to his OWN liking!
    He wants GLOBAL POWER and Control. I have NO DOUBT in my mind about it.

  131. karmahd says:

    Newflash>>>>>> Obama will do what ever he and his cronies can to distract the mindless followers while he implements his “change” from freedom to state control. DIT DIT DIT DIT Newsflash Over and Out DIT DIT DIT

  132. Foxwood says:

    Read a older history book, not one of those they use in schools now. Read about Oliver North. Read about what Congress tried to do to him. How he got away with it. Reagan and North were hero’s.

  133. Foxwood says:

    Damn Karma,

    Why don’t people tell me these thing!

  134. Foxwood says:

    Lisa, Obomber is quick to denounce Honduras, but takes almost 2 weeks to say anything about Iran. It really does tell you alot about him.

  135. karmahd says:



    Obama=Politician=liar=vote him out

  136. karmahd says:

    Karma=comment=everyone leaves=whaaaaaaaaaaaa

  137. karmahd says:

    Love the shirt!!! Nobody know the Shirts I have seen

  138. Foxwood says:

    Nobody knows the shiites you’ve seen?

  139. karmahd says:

    Foxxxxxx I thought I was alone I was getting scared… Shitttites be dammed

  140. VotingFemale says:

    Karma… where is Karma…. looks like he is gone…

    oh well… guess he doesn’t want to chat…

  141. VotingFemale says:

    The eBay Obama birth certificate auction is back up again with a workaround to keep eBay off his back…

    current bit is $16,250.00 USD with a bid history presently setting at 32 bids.

    I wonder if Obama has an eBay account and is bidding on it…

  142. Foxwood says:

    I hate to bring up the cliche, the shiite hit the fan.

  143. arlenearmy says:

    Im still swimming to shore folks.

    Thanks VF for posting this. I feel pretty good about this ruling. Feeling some hope today 🙂

    Rose … yeah, like Beck said – MJ’s still dead. Nothing changed on that front except for last ditch formation of a crusty dynamic trio: Joe, Al & Jessie; & a Don King promo in the making.

  144. arlenearmy says:

    Also thanks for keeping us updated on the ebay auction of Obama’s kenyan birth certificate. I hope Obama’s camp is not trying to bid on it.

    This ebay auction might be the salvation we need. Just trying to keep hope alive.

  145. VotingFemale says:

    yeah we need more good news blogposts… I will see what I can do on that front…

  146. LisaInTX says:

    Here is an interesting POV on National Animal Identity Sucks!!! aka NAIS
    It is tied in with the USDA….imagine that!! lol

  147. SamHenry says:

    Hi all -VF what happened today with the deadline for the birth certificate – I’m just in from dinner out?

  148. SamHenry says:

    Is there anyone home who can answer my question? I am short of time for scrolling back….

  149. SamHenry says:

    OK – Dog overboard and overbored being alone here

  150. VotingFemale says:

    Something that gave me a laugh! hahahahaha

  151. VotingFemale says:

    SamH, don’t have an update yet…

  152. VotingFemale says:

    I am back and forth making dinner…

  153. samiam60 says:

    Here’s to US!!!!
    No matter what our kids and the new generation think about us,

    To Those of Us Born
    1930 – 1979

    At the end of this email is a quote of the month by Jay Leno.. If you don’t read anything else, please

    read what he said.

    Very well stated, Mr. Leno.

    1930’s, 40’s, 50’s,
    60’s and 70’s!!

    First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

    They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can and didn’t get tested for diabetes.

    Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered
    with bright colored lead-base paints..

    We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, locks on doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes,
    we had baseball caps
    not helmets on our heads.

    As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, no booster seats, no seat belts, no air bags, bald tires and sometimes no brakes.

    Riding in the back of a pick- up truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

    We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.

    We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one actually died from this.

    We ate cupcakes, white bread, real butter and bacon. We drank Kool-Aid made with real white sugar. And, we weren’t overweight.. WHY?

    Because we were always outside playing…that’s why!

    We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on..

    No one was able to reach us all day. And, we were OKAY.

    We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps
    and then ride them down the hill,
    only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem

    We did not have Play stations, Nintendo’s and X-boxes. There were no video games, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD’s,
    no surround-sound or CD’s,
    no cell phones,
    no personal computers,
    no Internet and no chat rooms.

    WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

    We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

    We would get spankings with wooden spoons, switches, ping pong paddles, or just a bare hand and no one would call child services to report abuse.

    We ate worms and mud pies
    made from dirt, and
    the worms did not live in us forever.

    We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

    We rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them.

    Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team.
    Those who didn’t had to learn
    to deal with disappointment.

    Imagine that!!
    The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

    These generations have produced some of the best
    risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever.

    The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

    We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.

    If YOU are one of them, CONGRATULATIONS!

    You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives for our own good.

    While you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave and lucky their parents were.

    Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn’t it ?
    The quote of the month is by
    Jay Leno:

    ‘With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?’

  154. arlenearmy says:

    I went back to that ebay page & read that the sale will be transacted on the steps of the Iowa Capital Building. I wonder if the news media will be there to witness this.

  155. arlenearmy says:

    There’s a whole lot of truth to what you just posted. I remember those days. Those were the days when playing outdoors w/no shoes was common & we had to invent our own toys. Parents had an old car (no power steering nor air) w/glitchy brakes … mom used to pump on that brake & we kids in back seat laughing. We NEVER been in an accident.

  156. SamHenry says:

    Sami – those were great days.

  157. newsbird says:

    awesome comments! I have to agree!

    I think we early boomers had all the best of times! The technology changes, memories of some incredible things and experiences that can never be had today.

    The best music in the 60-70-80s, no TV until I was 12. I mean literally we had to become very creative to have a great time with nothing store bought. Monopoly for hours on end was the best game ever and why is it so boring today? We were always outside playing some sports. I hate to think if I will have grand kids and what they will have to face.
    Browing of USA is a fact – and I am not a racists but we are not getting any better as a nation competing in the global economy.
    It is awful to think europe is becoming more muslim each year.

    People’s habits and tastes are so jaded today I feel so sorry for them to miss all the free and best things in life.

  158. SamHenry says:

    Hi Lisa. I’m really behind te eight ball on theseevents

    Hi Arlene – good to see you. You’ve worked hard on the blog today

  159. SamHenry says:

    Karm – no one is home when I get on either.

  160. SamHenry says:

    Well, I’m not going to stand around talking to myself.

    Dog overboard

  161. ohiobelle says:

    Okay I think we should all be at the other story.. THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE… Judge Sotomayor is another Obama distraction.

  162. LisaInTX says:

    That was RIGHT ON!!!
    I remember those days very well and cherish them today. Those lessons and rewards are what developed character and wisdom.
    The good ole days indeed!
    Thanks for the reminder.
    It’s sad that our children and grand children will never experience them like we did.

  163. ohiobelle says:

    Sam, haha dog overboard… lol

    I’ve been on the other post talking to myself so I know just how you feel. The other post is THE STORY…

  164. SamHenry says:

    Belle – thank goodness and Lisa – are we all going over to the birth certificate area?

  165. arlenearmy says:

    I was & still am watching Foxnews. I saw the interview Hannity had w/some of the fire fighters. Those are a fine group of men. They present themselves as professionals.

  166. ohiobelle says:

    I am going to start a campaign and send all the Senators this message…

    Let your conscience be your guide; vote NO on Cap & Trade..

    What do you think?

  167. rosehips says:

    belle, hey girl, how was work today?

  168. SamHenry says:

    Oh Arlene, I was all alone on the wrong blog post. Creepy. I will turn on Fox News.

  169. LisaInTX says:

    It is always good to read your comments and input here.
    The NAIS is a LONG hard fought battle that has been waged for several years now.

  170. LisaInTX says:

    Evening girls!!:-]
    I only have a few minutes to post, but will be on later.
    I agree, the birth certificate is the REAL issue.

  171. SamHenry says:

    Thanks for some positive feedback about my person, Lisa. I am sitting here in gloomy, wet and cold Western, NY – 62 degrees at 8:00.
    I need to read up on NAIS that you have been posting.

  172. rosehips says:

    and just for the record…I think the Senate should vote “no” on the cap and trade bill. I think we need to wait to see if recent scientific data can dispel the predominant opinion that humans are impacting the climate and I personally want to know how much our actions can mitigate damages. I’m not convinced there is anything we can really do, so why bother if it will cost us so dearly?

  173. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: belle, hey girl, how was work today?

    Busy… my day started at 6:00am and I got home after 7:00pm but I still had some work to do from the office. Its great to work again.. it’s just going to take time to get used to it. lol
    I miss laying out on my deck.. haha

  174. ohiobelle says:

    Sam wrote: Oh Arlene, I was all alone on the wrong blog post. Creepy. I will turn on Fox News.

    I went back to the previous post but nobody was there so I came back… sorry if I missed you.

  175. samiam60 says:

    Rosechips, do you remember those good ole days?

  176. ohiobelle says:

    Guys I would love to stick around but I’ve got to finish up with some things and get to bed. My day starts all over again in just a few hours. Thank god I had the 4 month vacation.. lol

    I miss you guys. Talk to you later.

  177. rosehips says:

    and VF, I also discovered that same auction relisted by the assassin. heehee. I was going to do an ireport about it, but then I got distracted and never got around to it.

    I think the quest for the elusive proof of foreign will continue….

    I think we should all go to kenya together and get to the bottom of this. I know with our talent and sh’s grantwriting ability, we can raise the funds. lol

  178. samiam60 says:

    Thanks for all the wonderful feedback everyone. Once again I was off topic but just couldn’t not post that Back to the Future memory lane post.

  179. rosehips says:

    sami, I miss those day immensely.

    oh to be young in the sixties and seventies again. oh boy.

    yeah, news our days were filled with sports, nature, bicycles, Good Humor, the municipal swimming pool!, Coca cola, am radio, fun, and adventure, mischief and lots of fun.

    sami, the good old days were a slice of American history. We had it made, didn’t we?

  180. samiam60 says:

    Those were the days my friend I thought they’d never end

  181. arlenearmy says:

    Oh well … Ohio has got some of us going back & forth from this blog to the other one by an illegal in our white house.

  182. rosehips says:

    i’m up and down….making dinner.

  183. rosehips says:

    what other blog are you all talkin’ bout? I feel so left out. wah.

  184. arlenearmy says:

    Im talking about VF’s other blog found at:

    That’s the blog about the illegal in the white house, whose kenyan bc is being auctioned on ebay.

  185. rosehips says:

    thanks for the song sami. that takes me back to those days, for sure….

  186. The Morb says:

    Nicely done V … I like your intensity.

  187. karmahd says:

    Well this might not be too cool but the rampant disco sex was pretty good in the 70’s too, all you had to worry about was things they had drugs for.

    Damn that I survived that was a miracle, but now I am a mature adult and would never think of anything so silly. Hey did I tell you all I bought a bridge today??

  188. karmahd says:

    So Morb I kind of killed your complement buzz. Karma buzz kill.

  189. rosehips says:

    hey karma! come back and tell some good old disco stories. heehee

    karma, you bought a bridge? did your teeth give out? lol

  190. karmahd says:

    All two of them Rose, we have a community tooth in Florida, you know us white trash rednecks we are down here

  191. karmahd says:

    and by the way Shake your Booty, shake shake shake, shake your booty

  192. rosehips says:

    lol karma, you the man. I don’t get it though…lol

  193. rosehips says:

    karma, I literally spewed onto my keyboard thinking about your community tooth.

  194. karmahd says:

    We keep it in the teffis box

  195. karmahd says:

    I am your boogie man boogie man, da daaa daaaa

  196. SamHenry says:

    Hey guys – everyone is over on the birth certificate blog post. I came to retrieve you.

  197. karmahd says:

    Now back to the social economic conundrum for the day, naw I am your boogie man boogie man, yaba yaba yaba…

  198. karmahd says:

    where is that

  199. SamHenry says:

    Hey boogie body boy to get to the other post (birth certificate) go to top of this page and click the back link for the birth certificate. In short, it was the post we commented on earlier today – the one VF put up initially today.

  200. karmahd says:

    Here Samhenry I have a pig ear if you tell me where that post is, here boy, HEEEEEESSS a gooooood boyyyyyy, sit and tell me samhenry!!

  201. rosehips says:

    karma, backtrack dude. vf’s previous blog…

  202. karmahd says:

    OK nobody was talking so I am going to bed, night night, let the bed bugs bite

  203. LisaInTX says:

    Stop the ACLU from tearing down our War Memorials!!!

  204. SamHenry says:

    My Village Taxes are due today. That is the biggest news I know.

    On the website this AM is an analysis of the reversal of the Sotomayor decision re the fire fighters.

    Lucas A. Powe Jr. , a professor of constitutional law at The University of Texas and the author of the recently published book, “The Supreme Court and the American Elite, 1789-2008.” and who clerked for Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas said in part:

    “The reversal was expected and is not the first time an appointee has been reversed by the court he was about to join.

    The reversal of Sotomayor was expected because a majority of the current court are Republicans who believe governmental decisions should be made on a color-blind basis. Beginning with the presidency of Ronald Reagan, Republicans have taken aim at affirmative action, and the Republican justices have concurred.

    Only once in the past 15 years has the Republican majority voted in favor of minorities in an affirmative action case. That came in 2003, when the court upheld the affirmative action program at the University of Michigan Law School. “

  205. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone. Here is another president Obama priority.

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Obama honored Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month with a White House reception Monday where he likened the struggle for gay rights with the struggle of African-Americans for civil rights.

    President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama entertain Monday in the White House’s East Room.

    With first lady Michelle Obama at his side, the president told the cheering crowd filling the East Room that his administration would work to repeal the so-called Defense of Marriage Act and end the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy regarding gays in the military.

    “I know that many in this room don’t believe that progress has come fast enough, and I understand that,” Obama said. “It’s not for me to tell you to be patient any more than it was for others to counsel patience to African-Americans who were petitioning for equal rights a half-century ago.”

    The “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy bars military officials from asking about a service member’s sexual orientation but also bars the service member from revealing it, and allows the dismissal of a service member if a same-sex orientation is discovered.

    “I believe preventing patriotic Americans from serving their country weakens our national security,” Obama said to applause. Ending the policy requires an act of Congress and will take time, he added.

  206. tellitlikeitis says:

  207. m2 says:

    funny tellit… he won’t stamp his approval on “gay marriage”. The man runs on polls and whatever gets him votes.

    He makes me sick with his lies for power.

  208. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning M2 and Tellitlikeitis.

  209. samiam60 says:

    Welp since no one is here to talk too I guess I will just start the bacon and eggs and get those arteries back in shape.

  210. m2 says:

    well I was talking on Skype to an old coworker. He is a conservative raised man who was turned liberal by his melon headed wife, last year, but underneath it all. He still believes that if you teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life.

    I know it’s still there, but he won’t be vocal again yet.

    I said I was going to write a children’s book on how Obama’s Marxism is bad for America and make millions of dollars. (uh, while I still can.)


  211. samiam60 says:

    M2, Melon shaped head? lol, is she melon collie?
    You know, head like a melon and face like a collie.

  212. samiam60 says:

    I hugged a Pine Tree today and so why do I feel like a sap now?

  213. m2 says:

    ha ha…

    melonheads are liberals who aren’t scheming… so not the Obama-types, but the ones that actually think Liberalism is caring. Awwww….

  214. m2 says:

    I’m going for the shower! TTYL!

  215. rosehips says:

    morning peeps,

    m2, you back home?

    sami, u funny sap!

  216. rosehips says:

    vf golfing today?

  217. samiam60 says:

    Morning Rose, how are things in your neck of the wooods?

  218. samiam60 says:

    Rose I don’t get out much so I have to ask. What is Shepard Pie and what is in it?

  219. rosehips says:

    my neck of the woods is having a normally nice morning. I got up extra late and now it’s almost 7 am!
    how are you doing this morn sami?
    no work this morning?

  220. samiam60 says:

    I am trying to find some Boones Farm Strawberry Hill and Oysters.
    Yah know I could just Google it all and then I would know.

  221. samiam60 says:

    Naw Rose I start at Noon. Its a great day in the neighborhood though. Will you be my friend today?

  222. rosehips says:

    lol sami.

    shepard’s pie? it is like a pot pie but without the crust. There is a traditional version but I don’t know exactly what is in it.

    The one I make is vegetarian. It is made in layers. The first layer I make with tofu, onion and whatever else I want to put in there. Then there is the gravy layer. I make a mushroom gravy. Then you put mashed potatoes on top and bake. I think the traditional version is British and has meat.

  223. samiam60 says:

    That sounds good Rose. I must live a sheltered life.

  224. rosehips says:

    sami, go easy on the boone’s farm til you get off work, ok?
    It may be better to wait on them oysters too.

  225. rosehips says:

    what kind of work you doing these days sami?

  226. samiam60 says:

    For security reasons I cannot say what I do for a living. I was gonna save the Boones Farm for next year if ya know what I mean. I am hoping to have my Volkswagon Van running again by then also.
    I am also allergic to all shell fish type stuff so no oysters for me.

  227. samiam60 says:

    VF must be hungover again this morning.

  228. samiam60 says:

    Rose lets argue about something.

  229. samiam60 says:

    Welp looks like she left me. Hope she didn’t take my red pickup.

  230. rosehips says:

    lol sami. by this time I am usually in the thick of an argument.

    I guess foxy had to go see him mom….

  231. samiam60 says:

    Rose I hope the world didn’t end and no one told us.

  232. samiam60 says:

    Yikes now Rose is gone too.

  233. tellitlikeitis says:

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Tuesday, June 30, 2009 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-three percent (33%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2. That matches the lowest level yet recorded (see trends).

    Over the past two weeks, the Presidential Approval Index has stayed in a narrow range between +2 and -2. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of Democrats Strongly Approve while 60% of Republicans Strongly Disapprove.

    Fifty percent (50%) favor passage of the health care reform proposal being crafted by Obama and Congressional Democrats. Forty-five percent (45%) are opposed.

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m

  234. rosehips says:

    still here sami. I am thinking of doing an ireport about the birth cert.

    I see the auction was taken down.

  235. rosehips says:

    geesh, I just got an email for my rep Cathy McMorris Rodgers. She is against Obama’s health care plan (no surprise there). She cited a recent WSJ article and posted the article in her email. It was written by frickin’ Karl Rove!
    C’mon Cathy. How am I gonna swallow that?

    She and Senator Maria Cantwell are having a press conference tomorrow at Shriner’s Hospital in Spokane. They are joining together to plead with Shriners not to close the hospital down. I really would love to attend. I am a strong supporter of the hospital as my son has had numerous surgeries there and received great care. The hospital was built the year he was born, 18 years ago. They say there aren’t enough patients. That’s incredible. All the care is free. How could there not be more kids who need surgery? They could always fly them in from other countries I guess.

  236. samiam60 says:

    Rose said:
    geesh, I just got an email for my rep Cathy McMorris Rodgers. She is against Obama’s health care plan (no surprise there). She cited a recent WSJ article and posted the article in her email. It was written by frickin’ Karl Rove!
    C’mon Cathy. How am I gonna swallow that?

    Eyes are being opened Rose. Good bad or indifferent the facts are coming to light my dear.

  237. samiam60 says:

    Do not try to resist the Force Rose.

  238. samiam60 says:

    Peace ! 🙂

  239. samiam60 says:

    C’mon Rose, I think your ready.

  240. tellitlikeitis says:

    A top Republican senator has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency’s alleged suppression of a report that questioned the science behind global warming.

    The 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin, pushed back on the prospect of regulating gases like carbon dioxide as a way to reduce global warming. Carlin’s report argued that the information the EPA was using was out of date, and that even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, global temperatures have declined.

    “He came out with the truth. They don’t want the truth at the EPA,” Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a global warming skeptic, told FOX News, saying he’s ordered an investigation. “We’re going to expose it.”

    The controversy comes after the House of Representatives passed a landmark bill to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, one that Inhofe said will be “dead on arrival” in the Senate despite President Obama’s energy adviser voicing confidence in the measure.

    According to internal e-mails that have been made public by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Carlin’s boss told him in March that his material would not be incorporated into a broader EPA finding and ordered Carlin to stop working on the climate change issue. The draft EPA finding released in April lists six greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, that the EPA says threaten public health and welfare.

    An EPA official told on Monday that Carlin, who is an economist — not a scientist — included “no original research” in his report. The official said that Carlin “has not been muzzled in the agency at all,” but stressed that his report was entirely “unsolicited.”

    “It was something that he did on his own,” the official said. “Though he was not qualified, his manager indulged him and allowed him on agency time to draft up … a set of comments.”

  241. rosehips says:

    thanks tellit. I’m glad to see that this issue is being brought up. I want to see if there is any validity to what this guy is saying.

  242. tellitlikeitis says:

    yes I agree. me too.

  243. SamHenry says:

    Hi Tellit, Rose

    O-K-L-A-H-O-M-A —– Oklahoma You’re OK!

    Thanks for the report, Tellit. Good research.

  244. SamHenry says:

    All the world is on a blog break so I will away to track down some breakfast. Yes, the ole dawg slept in. I mowed the lawn yesterday and that always brings this on. The grass was deep and so were the political issues running through my head.

    dog overboard…wooooooooof, splash

  245. rosehips says:

    hey sh!
    yeah, foxy will be excited that the senator from OK is leading this call for an investigation.

  246. rosehips says:

    and I’m sure Arlene is pleased as well

  247. rosehips says:

    lol, sh. you crack me up each and every day. thanks for that! 😉

  248. tellitlikeitis says:

  249. newsbird says:

    Hi everyone!
    “sami write: M2, Melon shaped head? lol, is she melon collie?”
    I thought he meant melancholy LOL

    How can obama think that “I believe preventing patriotic Americans from serving their country weakens our national security,”?? obama thinks gays who can’t serve in the military are a national security risk?? Are these people also labeled home grown terrorists?

  250. Foxwood says:

    Storms came though last night. It’s usually dead, but then when I have to work, I work alot.

  251. Foxwood says:

    So is everyone still commenting on 2 posts?

  252. Foxwood says:

    Well, I do like Jim Inhofe… I don’t much care for his brother Jack.

  253. tellitlikeitis says:

    Republicans see opportunity in US climate bill fightBuzz up!
    Digg it
    Reuters, Monday June 29 2009
    * Legislation could turn off voters in 2010, they say
    * Democrats counter with climate bill job creation
    By Richard Cowan and Rebekah Kebede
    WASHINGTON, June 29 (Reuters) – Republicans in the U.S. Congress, who warn that climate change legislation is the “biggest job-killing bill” ever, see a bright side: Some people who lose their jobs could be Democrat lawmakers who vote for the bill.
    Holding minority status in both the Senate and House of Representatives after a disastrous showing in the 2006 and 2008 elections, Republican leaders think that Democrats might be writing a prescription for a Republican comeback in 2010 by passing a bill instead of curing an energy and environmental problem.
    “If the Republicans can frame it as, ‘Oh, the Democrats are once again just trying to raise your taxes, this time with a hidden tax on energy’, then that will probably have substantial appeal to the electorate, particularly if we are still in the throes of a recession,” said Robert Stavins, head of the Harvard Environmental Economics Program.
    On Friday, the House narrowly approved a bill to impose deep reductions over the next four decades on industrial emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases that cause global warming. Debate over the bill, which could raise energy prices, comes as the United States is in the depths of an economic recession.
    President Barack Obama has called on the Senate, where the proposed law faces a much more difficult path, to act quickly as well. But a vote there is still a long way off and might not even happen this year.
    As the House was wrapping up its debate of what many are calling the most significant environmental bill in U.S. history, House Republican leader John Boehner called it “the defining bill for this Congress.”
    Three days earlier, in a memo to fellow Republicans, Boehner linked the vote on the climate bill to the November, 2010, congressional elections and warned: “Democrats who vote for it do so at their own peril.”
    Boehner also has called the legislation “the biggest job-killing bill” ever, an argument that analysts say may have appeal with voters.
    Democrats, with their big majorities in Congress, are trying to balance the demands of socially liberal activists on both coasts versus blue collar workers in the center of the country, said Paul Sracic, head of the political science department at Youngstown State University in Ohio.
    “Voters in the Midwest who decide (presidential) elections, elected Barack Obama and the Democrats to fix the economy, not the environment,” Sracic said. “Republicans are smart to portray this as a jobs-killing measure.”
    But if the economy improves significantly before the 2010 election, “I don’t think anything Republicans say is going to catch on,” Sracic said.
    “If it doesn’t improve … Republicans will say, ‘See, they didn’t focus on the economy and jobs and were more worried about appeasing liberals’ by passing a climate change bill,” he added.
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the Democrat who fought to keep the climate change bill on a fast-track toward passage, also talked about jobs. But she had job creation in mind.
    “Remember these four words for what this legislation means: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let’s vote for jobs,” Pelosi said on Friday, exhorting lawmakers to vote for the bill and the economic opportunity Democrats hope the climate bill brings.
    Pelosi’s formula for getting the bill passed in the House protected many Democrats from putting their political careers on the line.
    The bill passed by a narrow 219-212 vote, with 44 Democrats voting “no.” Many of them represent districts in Midwestern and southern states, where the most clean energy progress would have to be made by coal-fired utilities and other energy intensive industries.
    The bill has also split the religious community — an important constituency in many states.
    While some religious groups have banded together to lobby for the legislation, some conservative religious activists are mobilizing against it.
    “The idea that you’re going to have the biggest tax hike in American history in the middle of a severe recession is economic hara-kiri, it’s just insane,” said Nashville-based Dr. Richard Land, a leading figure in the social conservative movement, on his nationally syndicated radio show on Saturday.

  254. Foxwood says:

    I’m waiting on a tower crew and barely have service. I’ll check back later.

  255. tellitlikeitis says:

    Just what we need now another Socialist in the Senate. Looks like cap and tax is getting closer to a horrific reality.

    Franken Declared Senate Winner By Minnesota Court
    Topics:Democrats | Republicans | White House | Congress | Politics & GovernmentBy: Reuters | 30 Jun 2009 | 02:27 PM ET Text Size The Minnesota Supreme Court on Tuesday declared Democrat Al Franken the winner of a tight U.S. Senate race over Republican Norm Coleman, which should give Democrats the 60-seat majority they need to overcome procedural obstacles and push through their agenda.
    Al Franken

    Coleman has said in published reports he is unlikely to appeal the state court’s decision to the federal courts.

    Under state law, the court’s decision gives Franken the right to occupy the seat, which has been up for grabs since last November’s election.

    Minnesota Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty has said he will certify the election winner based on what the state court decides.

    If the decision holds up, Democrats will control 60 of the 100 Senate seats — enough to overcome Republican procedural roadblocks in a clear boost to President Barack Obama’s agenda.

    Democrats hold a solid majority in the U.S. House. However, Senate Democrats may not be able to count on Arlen Specter’s vote.

    Specter, a former Republican from Pennsylvania, switched parties in April but has said he will vote his own way and not necessarily along party lines.


    Current DateTime: 11:30:11 30 Jun 2009
    LinksList Documentid: 31667442
    Treasury Sets Wide Scope For New Consumer Agency
    Consumer Confidence Slides in June on Job Concerns

    The Minnesota contest has seen several switches. Coleman, seeking a second term, held a razor-thin lead after the Nov. 4 election over Franken, a well known satirist and a former writer and actor for the popular Saturday Night Live television show.

    But the close vote triggered an automatic recount of the 2.4 million ballots cast for the two men, and Franken edged to a 225-vote lead.

    That result was challenged by Coleman, and a judicial panel agreed to add only a few hundred previously rejected absentee ballots. That tally expanded Franken’s lead to 312 votes.

  256. Foxwood says:

    Coleman conceded. Dammit!

  257. Foxwood says:

    Site’s back up, but I got a 2 hour drive. Cya gals and guys tonight.

  258. m2 says:

    Ah compassionate and lovely Liberals/Democrats

  259. m2 says:

    “I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” – Will Rogers

  260. m2 says:

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.”
    “A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
    discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.”
    “From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

  261. m2 says:

    “It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

    Theodore Roosevelt
    “Citizenship in a Republic,”
    Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

  262. rosehips says:

    hello??? anybody here? vf, call home….

    karma, are you not coming out to play today? what’d you and vf run off together?

  263. SamHenry says:

    I’m here just for a minute, Rose

  264. m2 says:

    I’m cooking dinner and playing with my digital photos!

  265. SamHenry says:

    From the Financial Times – a bizarre point of view:

    Obama is choosing to be weak

    By Clive Crook

    Published: June 28 2009 19:09 | Last updated: June 28 2009 19:09

    Bromley illustrations

    As he promised last year, Barack Obama has brought climate change and healthcare reform to the centre of the nation’s attention. As well as evangelising, he is pressing Congress to act. Last week the House of Representatives passed the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade bill to curb carbon emissions, a measure that, if enacted, would touch every part of the US economy. Both House and Senate have drafted far-reaching healthcare bills, with stunning price tags.

    Mr Obama aims to keep his promises, which is admirable. Unfortunately, there is a problem. This is not, as many Republicans argue, that neither issue requires forthright action. Both do. The problem is that the bills emerging from Congress are bad and Mr Obama does not seem to mind.

    The cap-and-trade bill is a travesty. Its net effect on short- to medium-term carbon emissions will be small to none. This is by design: a law that really made a difference would make energy dearer, hurt consumers and force an economic restructuring that would be painful for many industries and their workers. Congress cannot contemplate those effects. So the Waxman-Markey bill, while going through the complex motions of creating a carbon abatement regime, takes care to neutralise itself.

    It proposes safety valves that will ease the cap if it threatens to have a noticeable effect on energy prices. It relies heavily on offsets – theoretical carbon reductions bought from other countries or other industries – so that big US emitters will not need to try so hard. It gives emission permits away, and tells utilities to rebate the windfall to consumers, so their electricity bills do not go up. It creates a vastly complicated apparatus, a playground for special interests and rent-seekers, a minefield of unintended consequences – and the bottom line for all that is business as usual.

    If you regard universal access to health insurance as an urgent priority, as I do, the draft healthcare bills are easier to defend as at least a step in the right direction. Nonetheless, the same evasive mindset – the appetite for change without change – has guided their design. If you are happy with your present insurance, the bills’ designers keep telling voters, you will see no difference.

    The crux of the US healthcare problem is the incentives that encourage over-production and over-consumption of services. Addressing that would alter the way healthcare is paid for and delivered to all Americans. At that scary prospect, Congress looks away. Debate thus revolves around how much of an increase in coverage you can buy for $1,000bn over 10 years in subsidies and other outlays. That is a good question. But legislators aim to duck the bigger challenge: controlling long-term growth in costs per patient.

    On both climate change and healthcare, in other words, the US wills the end but not the means. This is where a president trusted by the electorate and unafraid to explain hard choices would be so valuable. Barack Obama, where are you?

    The president has cast himself not as a leader of reform, but as a cheerleader for “reform” – meaning anything, really, that can plausibly be called reform, however flawed. He has defined success down so far that many kinds of failure now qualify. Without hesitating, he has cast aside principles he emphasised during the campaign. On healthcare, for instance, he opposed an individual insurance mandate. On climate change, he was firm on the need to auction all emissions permits. Congress proposes to do the opposite in both cases and Mr Obama’s instant response is: “That will do nicely.”

    The White House calls this pragmatism. Never let the best be the enemy of the good. Better to take one step forward than blah, blah, blah. The argument sounds appealing and makes some sense, but is worth probing.

    First one must ask whether the bills really do represent progress, however modest. As they stand, this is doubtful, especially in the case of cap-and-trade. Then one must ask whether the US will get to where it needs to be on climate change and healthcare via a series of small steps. Perhaps the country has just one chance in the foreseeable future to get it right. The White House has said as much: “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” Botch these policies this time, and it may be years before Congress can start again.

    A White House that is more interested in promotion than in product development has another great drawback: it squanders talent. Mr Obama has impeccable taste in advisers: he has scooped up many of the country’s pre-eminent experts in almost every area of public policy. One wonders why. On the main domestic issues, they are not designing policy; they are working the phones, drumming up support for bills they would be deploring if they were not in the administration. Apart from anything else, this seems cruel. Mr President, examine your conscience and set your experts free.

    The greatest waste of talent in all this, however, is that of Mr Obama himself. Congress offers change without change – a green economy built on cheap coal and petrol; a healthcare transformation that asks nobody to pay more taxes or behave any differently – because that is what voters want. Is it too much to ask that Mr Obama should tell voters the truth? I think he could do it. He has everything it takes to be a strong president. He is choosing to be a weak one.

  266. karmahd says:

    Boo, slow day in Bloogwood, raining here, yessssss

  267. SamHenry says:

    Raining here yessssss- and cccccccold.

    Where IS that CAT?

  268. SamHenry says:

    Michael Jackson’s body on the move. To host a show and tell memorial at Neverland on Friday.

  269. SamHenry says:

    MJ could go on tour dead and still make money! Oh, how terrible I am and Joe Jackson will be so upset at me – that I did not mention his new record label!

  270. SamHenry says:

    Karm – don’t you have an avitar of you in the rain so that we could be believers?

  271. karmahd says:

    What is amazing to me you have the trilogy of the Black Knights coming out of the woodwork getting the press, Sharpton, Jackson and Jackson as in the Reverend and his son??? Why and the hell are they there, and I forgot Spike Lee?? Media junkies with zero class, now that Obamawow is taking the spotlight!! Hey Samhenry

  272. rosehips says:

    lol @ michael’s death tour.

    hey karma. yes sooooo slow.

    m2, send pics!

    It’s beautiful here! 80 degrees and sunny. I was just out lounging with my schoolbooks. Need to jump on my bike and work up a sweat and work off the beer I drank last night. Or work off the beer I want to drink tonight. I may have to jump on that bike twice. yikes.

  273. karmahd says:

    I dont have one Samhenry, I can work on that!

  274. karmahd says:

    VF gone today?? I did not come home for lunch or check this morning and not too many comments in between? Oh well, we need the rain, but my grass is getting out of control since I do not like to do house work on the weekends, and it is supposed to rain through the weekend!! Rut Ro

  275. rosehips says:

    sh, the cat is out of the bag. she could be anywhere. I don’t really start worrying unless she is still m.i.a. tomorrow. I just get a little agitated when she takes off without warning like this.
    I guess we need to hold court while she is gone. heard any good jokes lately? heehee

  276. rosehips says:

    karma, a little bit of mowing instead of heading straight for happy hour after work will not kill you. In fact it will build your character. How is your weight loss regimen coming? I suggest a manual push mower to help in that dept.

  277. karmahd says:

    Rose I have been working out 4 days per week for the last two months, I have only dropped 14 pounds, and I go to the gym after work and did two miles on the tread mill tonight, so I am doing my part, and I dont drink during the week only Friday Sat and Sunday, and have not had more than 4 beers in over a year. So there THIPPPPTTTTTTT that is my tongue sticking out na na na na

  278. SamHenry says:

    I can make one up fast: Hey, did you hear the one about the Ayatollah who wouldn’t cross the street because it might seem the Christian thing to do?

    What’s the difference between Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley? Elvis had cool hips; Michael had no lips.

  279. SamHenry says:

    OMG the WH is implementing project bye-bye Biden.

  280. rosehips says:

    karma, i’m impressed. 14 lbs is not bad and good for you for the work-outs. I was up to 30 lbs I shed but last week I was dismayed to see I gained 8 lbs back. so I went on a crash diet and shed 7 of those. Now i’ve gained a few more back so I am playing a fluctuating game. I am trying to psych myself up to really start to work on the losing another 10 or 15 lbs. Then I will cut my hair and change my name to “Twiggy”. lol

  281. karmahd says:

    Samhenry MJ had lips he just moved them

  282. SamHenry says:

    Do you think Michael is staging an elaborate viewing to avoid all of those endless “Elvis has just left the building” jokes that are eternal?

  283. karmahd says:

    My reason is I am lifting heavy weights so I am putting on a lot of muscle, I have added almost 1.5 inches to my arms and 3 inches to my chest, I only wish that growth would work in other areas LOL. But I am still carrying the love handles and a bit of a gut, I will do it, just takes longer when you get old

  284. SamHenry says:

    GEEZE Rose, we’ve lost so many AirBus 330’s that to hear word of someone on a crash diet seems crass (sorry that’s the Chinese word for crash – oh no I’m wrong or wong – it’s cwash).

  285. SamHenry says:

    I have so many sagging parts I wear several slings and a thong.

  286. rosehips says:

    stop it karma, you are turning me on…lol

  287. SamHenry says:

    Please – no pictures; no measurements. At my age, measurements are reserved for caskets.

  288. SamHenry says:

    Rose – I am certain that he is turning you on so I will be politic and withdraw so that you two can share the blog privately. Goodbye, young lovers.

  289. rosehips says:

    lol sh, when I used to talk to Chinese for my job they always called me Hiw-wa-wee which I found extremely endearing.

  290. rosehips says:

    oh don’t go sh….I am not adverse to sharing or exhibiting girl.

  291. karmahd says:

    Samhenry, I have a pig ear for you come back. I have a picture I can send LOL

  292. SamHenry says:

    Oh, well, I wasn’t too far down the gangplank.

  293. rosehips says:

    we are gonna have to put a leash on you sh and tie you to the rail.

  294. SamHenry says:

    So now what – who wants to be endearing first?

  295. rosehips says:

    you just shouldn’t be able to come and go at will.

  296. rosehips says:

    I need protection sh. stay close.

  297. SamHenry says:

    I don’t think VF would want to come back and find me tied to the info mother ship – strapped to the mast as it were.

  298. rosehips says:

    maybe we scared karma away?

    no ireports lately sh? you seem to be eerily silent today for the most part. having a rl day?

  299. SamHenry says:

    So, now I’m captive. Let’s spin a little info. That birth certificate stuff is a little troubling. The one for sale got pulled for no reason; the court that expected to see him with is birth certificate is no longer in the news. Just what is going on here?

    Second point (all the guys at the press conferences always have two part questions) – Barak is soto voce re Iran; he is practically using a megaphone with happenings directly south of us. What gives?

  300. karmahd says:

    Samhenry said strapped>>>> OK I will be a good boy dog, But this dog is gonna make some chow and pig out, all good food Rose, be on later

  301. SamHenry says:

    Ah, Rose – I am really trying to get my act together before the kids arrive to board for the school year. The house is a mess. I can’t charge them $500 a month to live in a mess.

    I will tell you offline about iReport.

  302. rosehips says:

    I did an ireport this morning on the bc issue.

    I also did an ireport on the humanitarian ship that was illegally seized by the Israelis as it was headed to Gaza with construction and medical supplies.

    my ireporting has become a practice in staying awake….it has gotten so ho-hum over there.

  303. SamHenry says:

    Rose I will send you an e-mail. I have about 2 hours of daylight left and I have to make up outside for a lot of down time due to rain. I plan to have a lovely Greek salad with feta cheese and tuna. I’m hoping that will get TH E CAT’s attention.

    Let’s meet back here with karm early evening. You need to get on that bike.

    Oh – yes – she has her back turned and I have slipped out of my straps – DOG OVERBOARD, heheheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, splash

  304. rosehips says:

    see you all later!

  305. Foxwood says:

    Do you know what God and Obama have in common?

    No birth certificate.

  306. arlenearmy says:

    I just got back home from Tulsa.

    What the hell happened w/that auction? I think ebay snatched it down AGAIN.

    Before I left this morning the bid was 777k & Im sure by the time I was scheduled to return home, it would had been at least 1 mil $$

    Folks, ebay is doing that seller WRONG.

  307. Foxwood says:

    I thought I was going to Tulsa this week. Moms getting better. She said she didn’t need the company, she was told to rest. Reminds me I gotta call.

  308. arlenearmy says:

    Foxwood you probably still need to go see your mom. My mom told me the same thing because she did not want me to worry. Then things turned bad.. reallyy baddddddd .

  309. arlenearmy says:

    According to WND, ebay not only banished the seller when the bid got over one million $$$, BUT they have intimidated potential buyers who have contacted the seller.

  310. ohiobelle says:

    I can’t believe some of the news I am hearing. Obama is sending 1500 unarmed National Guard the the US Mexico border????

    I’ve said it before and I am saying it again… there is a good chance Obama is the biggest act of terrorism this country has ever seen. When in the hell are people going to say STOP! I can’t stand it!!

  311. rosehips says:

    arlene, I am pretty sure that ebay listing is a hoax. Look at the photo the guy used. Did you see my comments about his other auction wins? A book for assassins, and voodoo dolls!

    the other auction you linked to is for a service to go to Africa to try to get the certificate. I thought about contacting the seller to find out what he/she is planning. He is in Mentor, OH. He wants $1000. down and the rest is due if he produces the document.

  312. ohiobelle says:

    Now I know there are people that are going to copy and paste because I called the ANTI CHRIST A TERRORIST BUT I DO NOT CARE! I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT!!

  313. rosehips says:

    what are unarmed guards supposed to do belle?

  314. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: what are unarmed guards supposed to do belle?

    Ask Obama… He’s the one sending the UNARMED GUARDS TO THE BORDER!!

  315. rosehips says:

    belle, take some deep breaths. go out to the yard. don’t have a stroke girl!

    and don’t go calling the prez a terrorist. you will get yourself on a list and if you ever try to go to D.C., you will be detained and prolly stripsearched. is that what you’d like to do instead of a leisurely stroll around the Smithsonian?

  316. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: belle, take some deep breaths. go out to the yard. don’t have a stroke girl!

    and don’t go calling the prez a terrorist. you will get yourself on a list and if you ever try to go to D.C., you will be detained and prolly stripsearched. is that what you’d like to do instead of a leisurely stroll around the Smithsonian?


    I honestly don’t know if I can continue to blog or watch the news. It’s too upsetting to see what is happening to this country! I just feel like there is nothing that can be done.

  317. rosehips says:

    Obama’s got it wrong on this issue. The way to stop the cartels is to take their market away. We can produce our own drugs or get them from legitimate sources. We can legalize drugs and release all the non-violent drug offenders who we pay $30,000/yr to lock up and then give their families public assistence because the prisoner cannot support his/her family. We can use some of the money for prevention programs that work. We can also help drug addicts rehabilitate. If people could buy drugs at a pharmacy, or convenience store, the cartels and street gangs would be out of business. doa. no need for national guard troops, armed or unarmed.

  318. rosehips says:

    belle, what about his plan makes you so mad? What do you think should be done about the increased drug violence that is creeping over the border?

  319. rosehips says:

    belle, if you turn off Fox, you probably won’t be so upset. Watch CNN or another obama lovin’ station and you might get uplifted about all the terrific things he is doing.

    Fox is designed to get you riled up. You work too hard and love your country too much to let them get the best of you. They probably have interests in the funeral business. They are going to profit from you dead or alive. Don’t let them exploit you girl!

  320. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips, there is no such thing as border security.. we can throw all the money in the world to defend our southern border but it will be useless unless Mexicos economy gets better. Mexico has the fix their economy in order for us the have secure borders.

    My 15 year old daughter just told me that she is scared to death that she won’t have the quality of life we had hoped for her. What do you say to that?

  321. ohiobelle says:

    Oh and by the way we should never let drugs be legal. That will create a bigger problem then we have now.

  322. Foxwood says:

    “what about his plan makes you so mad?”

    Every damn one of them. I MISS REAGAN! WAH!

  323. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: belle, if you turn off Fox, you probably won’t be so upset. Watch CNN or another obama lovin’ station and you might get uplifted about all the terrific things he is doing.

    You’ve got a better chance of seeing god before I turn on the Communist News Network!! lol

  324. ohiobelle says:

    Foxwood wrote: Every damn one of them. I MISS REAGAN! WAH!


  325. rosehips says:

    I say she is justified in being scared. Of course she won’t have the life you envisioned. I know it is easy to blame Obama for that, but I personally don’t think that anyone can stop the inevitable. Do you if John McCain was the prez that your daughter and your dreams would all be realized? Who would be able to make it all good again? There are lots of reasons why we can never maintain our status quo or provide a better life for our kids. There are too many people on the planet. We have come to the end of the ride. I feel sorry for kids today. They will never have it as good as we did. sigh

  326. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: Do you if John McCain was the prez that your daughter and your dreams would all be realized?

    YES!!! He would not have spent her future away… Bill Clinton wouldn’t have done what Obama has done! Obama is destroying America and I think you know it.

  327. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: There are too many people on the planet. We have come to the end of the ride. I feel sorry for kids today. They will never have it as good as we did. sigh

    They could have it better if we have a responsible government leading this country!

  328. rosehips says:

    belle, you have been brainwashed to think that making drugs illegal keeps people from abusing them or using them. We have spent over 1 trillion dollars on the War on Drugs since Nixon declared it a war in 1971. Guess what. Drug use has increased since then. It hasn’t worked. Do you think prohibition stops drug use, alcohol use? the answer is NO. It costs us dearly to prohibit drug use and it doesn’t work. We could save hundreds of billions a year if we legalize drugs. Let people who want to destroy their brains do so, or help them but locking them up on our dime doesn’t work. It’s proven.

    It’s a fact that legalizing drugs reduces crime and saves money. It doesn’t mean that drug use will increase.

  329. arlenearmy says:

    I think you on wrong on this. This auction probably legit. This is political. If that auction is a hoax, then why would ebay get in a tizzy over it & send intimidating email to potential buyers.

    There was a Full GROWN woman who sold her virginity on ebay. And ebay did not snatch that bid off. Her claim of the authenticity of her virginity was closer to being a hoax than the seller’s claim that Obama’s kenyan bc is real.

  330. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips, you know you are one of my bff’s but if you go into global frigin crisis then I am going to stroke out.


  331. rosehips says:

    arlene, I am sure that the FBI is involved. I read somewhere that the guy admitted the bc he has is probably not authentic. The WND implies the guy is being shady. I am convinced it’s not legit. I guess we disagree.

  332. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips wrote: belle, you have been brainwashed to think that making drugs illegal keeps people from abusing them or using them. We have spent over 1 trillion dollars on the War on Drugs since Nixon declared it a war in 1971. Guess what. Drug use has increased since then. It hasn’t worked. Do you think prohibition stops drug use, alcohol use? the answer is NO. It costs us dearly to prohibit drug use and it doesn’t work. We could save hundreds of billions a year if we legalize drugs. Let people who want to destroy their brains do so, or help them but locking them up on our dime doesn’t work. It’s proven.

    Is it proven just like global warming has been proven?? NO!

  333. VotingFemale says:

    Hi All!

    Was out of the house from very early till late… sorry to be absent for so long… sigh

    Hope everyone is well…

    Franken got the nod… grrrrr

  334. VotingFemale says:

    Global Warming = Global Scamming

    the planet is cooling down…

  335. Foxwood says:

    Thing can get better all. Go vote come 2010 and when 2012 comes, vote O out. Things can get better and it’s not inevitable.

  336. arlenearmy says:

    Franken is pitiful. I think he’s mentally challenged.

  337. ohiobelle says:

    Hello vf and arlene!

    Rosehips, the only thing the dems are good at is spreading fear for their political agendas. Everything in their eyes is a crisis that needs billions of dollars to repair or else we are all going to die!!! Good God, it makes me sick!

  338. rosehips says:

    belle, did I mention global warming? NO. I blame the problems on overpopulation. There are too many fricken people on the planet.

    Don’t worry. All we need is a few dozen monumental natural disasters and the population will probably be more manageable.

  339. rosehips says:

    and good to see you back vf!

  340. ohiobelle says:

    I have only one thing to say to those that support Obama & Company..


  341. arlenearmy says:

    I wish we can send the liberals to Venezuela. Im sure Chavez will love it.

  342. Foxwood says:

    Well swine flu isn’t going to do it Rose. I don’t know what happened to that one. I still think 2012 will be the end. Something will happen to O then the real anti-Christ will come.


  343. rosehips says:

    I will send you my address and you can send me my ticket….Please make my destination as close to monga bay as possible. Thanks!

  344. rosehips says:

    foxy, I will agree with you there. I am a semi-firm believer that 2012 will be huge. But I also thought the Y2K was going to be huge too. lol

  345. Foxwood says:

    I still have my y2k food under the bed. I had to throw away the green pork. I wasn’t sure it was pork till I shaved it.

  346. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene wrote: Belle
    I wish we can send the liberals to Venezuela. Im sure Chavez will love it.

    I was thinking something a little harsher.. like California.. lol

  347. arlenearmy says:

    Rose …
    See, you got that gimmie gimmie hand-out syndrome. When I said “I wish we”, I meant “I wish we the people – conservatives can send the liberals ….”. Unfortunately, your lord & savior O Hussein has robbed us. He’s got the money. Ask him for your ticket.

  348. ohiobelle says:

    Rosehips, 2012 will be the year we fought back for our country!! It will be the return of fiscal responsibility!

  349. ohiobelle says:

    What am I thinking??? We’ll fight back in 2010 and WIN!

  350. arlenearmy says:

    Belle, one of the things that may get Obama out is what got him in.

  351. VotingFemale says:

    Good News Alert!!!

    Obama Job Approval Rating Index tells the story…

    The Enchanted One is running out of steam…

    Look at the numbers…

  352. Foxwood says:

    I got up too early with cell sites down. I got to go to bed.

    Nite all.

  353. VotingFemale says:

    Sleep Well Fox Dude… you have done your Cell Duty for one day dear…

  354. Foxwood says:

    More on Crap and Trade.

  355. arlenearmy says:

    Its about darn time. And that slobbering love affair was sickening.

  356. VotingFemale says:

    I have to run also… lot to get done here before bed time…

    See yuz in the AM!!!

  357. ohiobelle says:

    I’ve got to spend time with the family before I go to bed and get up and do it all over again.

    I will talk to you guys tomorrow night.

  358. arlenearmy says:

    Alright guys & girls …I m still beating the bushes. I hope I get email reply from Limbaugh & others.

  359. rosehips says:

    good night all!

    for arlene…gimme gimme:

  360. SamHenry says:

    Humph, WELL, that CAT sneaked on board the mighty info ship while I was on shore. Humph. That’s what I think of creeping, sneaking cats. That’s why I’m happy to be an old dawg. Ya alwez knows where Ih am. But these fickle felines – humph. It’s a good thing they are agile and wise or I’d be totally disenchanted. Dogs don’t dislike CATS; they jus don’t get their ways. That is how it should be. Mine are my own as well.

    Nite Arlene – Dog overboard for now – may be back later. Keep “dogging” that story.

  361. Drive by, VF-Great Post!!!!!!! Yes, who will have the GRIT to stand up to Obama?

    Thank you Arlene for coming over and “filling” me in! Gosh, people, beautiful people, I’ve been self absorbed.

    SH! I saw a comment from the dog the other day but haven’t responded to the ‘dog overboard’! haahh

    For all the beautiful people here!!!!

  362. SamHenry says:

    Drat that dog – that WG – she drives too fast and says too much while doing it. Someday there will be a dead tree with sentence fragments all over it by the side of the road and you will know who ran into it! 🙂

  363. SamHenry says:

    I’ll just bet if 20 Michael Jackson will turn up, 40 prime TV evenings will be devoted to discussing them. People who knew him are talking too much. One of his last nurses was on – a very bright and nice woman but when asked if she had followed up on any of her concerns that she expressed after talking with Michael, she had to say no and that put her in a bad light – and she did everything she could since she was out of town. I hope she does not get called on the carpet for that. This is the problem with people jumping in front of a microphone at a time like this. Call your attorney first; talk afterward if warranted. People are running around just upset and done in as if we were in the aftermath of another Civil War. Pull yourself together, nation. This is a beloved pop star not the Messiah.

  364. rosehips says:

    thank you sh. you help put so many things in perspective. I am trying to not feel guilty that I sold my mj rolling stone issues on ebay and made about a 900% profit off of them . HAHAHAHA

    seriously, mj did not make me rich and dealing now with a buyer in the UK who actually wants to pay an extra $15 to insure this precious package is a bit of a pain. The postage is ending up costing her more than the mags. geesh. She’s paying almost $60 for 3 magazines with the king of pop on the cover. I hope they are worth it to her.

  365. arlenearmy says:

    Im watching Greta. VF’s right !!! more disapprove of Obama than approve. Rasmussen said that his slipping numbers in the poll is due to all this spending. Folks are becoming uncomfortable w/it. He also said that the “blame bush” syndrome is fading & that sometime this fall Obama will have to take ownership of this economy.

    Steve Moore on Greta said Consumer confidence is also dropping.

  366. karmahd says:

    After reading all the comments, I have come to the realization that Karma has taken effect on Prez Obama, you cannot say one thing and do another, you cannot promise no new taxes and then say that is what is going to happen, you cannot say we have global warming and then line the pockets of the cronies, you cannot raise taxes on cigarettes where the poor will be effected then smoke, you cannot pas a stimulus bill in a midnight session because it was of URGENT and then spend only 15% of it 6 months later, you cannot increase the budget and bury the youth of our great nation under a mountain of debt to fill your hollow ego, you cannot say it is the will of the people that you won when you have left the other 41 million people who did not vote for you in the dark, and lastly with the addition of the court jester Al Franken you will not have anyone to blame in 2010 because you Mr President and your majority in the congress and now the senate can only blame yourself when you and everyone of your greedy sleazy politician lying scum bag self intrested group of politicians will be voted out.

    That my friends is Karma and it will bit them in the ass or Karma is not my name!

  367. SamHenry says:

    Arlene – about that birth certificate – if the one for sale on e-bay can be taken down and search for the truth of the matter described as being in the realm of Conservative bloggers – then we will not find our answer in the heavily watched sites on the internet. We will not uncover any truths buried here. Some may not have been posted; others may have been deleted or redacted. In any event, we need to move this kind of investigation offline. You are right to contact individuals.

  368. SamHenry says:

    Right on, Karm – our hero! You are so right. You express our anger beautifully – if anger can be beautiful.

    I hope he doesn’t make as much of a mess getting us out of Iraq as Baby Bush did getting us in. That war was the one big thing I had against Bush, Inc. And this brings me to the big problem I have with Obama: Why is he loading his plate with so much at once when just tending to the Iraq withdrawal is enough for awhile. That is a critical mass, there that needs attention. I guess Obama is not being treated for ADD just for nicotene dependence. I’ll bet when he was in Egypt he tried to smoke a real camel. You don’t mess with them. Notice he didn’t take a ride on one. He let others in his Administration do that. Animals have a sense of the worthy and the truthful.

  369. SamHenry says:

    Hey, Karm, the guy lives in Ohio. Think it could be Belle? If not, could she go after it?

  370. karmahd says:

    Well Samhenry, I also was not a big fan of the war, which was basically nation building, but it appears it has worked to some degree, with the revolt in Iran, the youth of that country are emboldened to seek there freedom, so the school is out on the success or failure of the war in Iraq. But I did see Obama take credit for that success today, and he and his Democratic cronies were so strongly against it, now they pander to the stupid and saying what we have done has worked. WHAT IS THIS WE SHIT!!

  371. rosehips says:

    karma, I love you, you know that. but I also am fond of franken. sorry. I think he is kind of cute and quite funny.
    I am glad the Iraqis are glad that we are glad that they are glad we are gettin’ out. Are they or are we really?

  372. SamHenry says:

    I’ll tell you this, Karm, after all we did there, Exxon lost the bid for the biggest oil fields ther. BP and a Chinese company went in together and got it. We get kicked in the teeth all the time.

    Remember, Obama is like Jackson – the man in the mirror. All he sees is himself. I feel so sorry for his family. They are just adjuncts. He treats the press with disdain and as if they may be manipulated. And of course they have been OBAMINIZED.

    I just found out that when my dogs bring in fleas and they get ensconced here, I can buy an OBAMABOMB, drop it in here and it will rid the house of the fleas. That is about all he will have left in the military arsenal if he is allowed to continue his fiscal policies.

  373. karmahd says:

    I agree Frankin in his day was funny, but as the deciding vote and a freshman senator that will have the power to pass any type of legislation I can think of a few million better choices! what was the name of his book Rose hmmmm I just cant seem to remember let me think?????? Do you know?????

  374. karmahd says:

    But Samhenry you will be paying dearly for that Obamabomb LOL, and it does not kill pests just patriots!

  375. SamHenry says:

    Rose you are my VBF on VF but Al Franken is a real tough cookie and lizard. He is not bright, he is not even funny anymore, he is just opinionated. I can’t wait to see how he will do on the national stage. Stay tuned.

  376. rosehips says:

    which book karma? the one about rush? lol

  377. karmahd says:

    Alright folks, the Karma needs his beauty sleep, (lots of it) I am going to wind down and read, I will check in the morning to see if we still have a country, “Big Fat Idiot” signing off LOL

  378. rosehips says:

    Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot….by Al Frankin


  379. SamHenry says:

    What do I know Karm. I’m just sitting here by the TV waiting for the next iteration of Jackson’s will to arrive in the mail. Say, do you think Hillary will be sent to funeral. That family is so strange as to be foreign and that’s her turf.

  380. rosehips says:

    love you karma! sweet sweet dreams to my bbff

  381. SamHenry says:

    Next weekend, not this, there is a big, bit air show here. Stay tuned for iReports of me running down the runway chasing action shots. OR, they may paint my tummy and use me as an advertising blimp. Who knows.

  382. SamHenry says:

    “I love you Karma” – GEEEZE not in front of the dog, pleeeeese.

    Dog overboard.

  383. rosehips says:

    sh, hillary to jacko’s funeral? r u kidding? omg…too funny. naw, I think that our sec of commerce should though, or the parks dept. I think Neverland should become a national monument. I don’t care wut the locals say. but of course the farmlands and privacy of the locals should be protected. good luck wit that. hahahaha

  384. rosehips says:

    lol sh. can’t wait to see your airshow ireport. be careful out there in all that flotsam and jetsom, girl.

  385. SamHenry says:

    From shore comes the sound of a dog cry: ” Perhaps the Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare – all things the Jacksons could really use – for the family that has everything.”

  386. rosehips says:

    lol sh, you two funny, you two

  387. SamHenry says:

    ” – you two” – you mean my split personality or was this a true grammatical error. ?

  388. SamHenry says:

    Nite Rose – what’s a little grammar glitch between gal pals? I’m the dawg that’s here to protect you from bad grammar not accuse you of it.

    My typos and grammos are of course unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

  389. rosehips says:

    sh, let’s just call it a “double entendre” and leave it at that, okay?

  390. SamHenry says:

    Hey, Rose – ask Fox and others – Half of what is said anywhere goes right over my head. Fox made a comment about playing the violin and I took him at his word and told him I used to play a bad cello. I let him think I knew all along what it meant but you had better send me an e-mail and let me know the skinny. I will e-mail you tomorrow. Nite

  391. rosehips says:

    sh, I wish I had the skinny but I will email ya and let’s see who really has no ear. I played bad trumpet once. ohhh

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  393. VotingFemale says:

    Morning Early Blogger Coffee Club!

    Karma, I saved your Obama Karma Essay… very nice piece of work… would love to include it, with credit to you, in a blogpost here.

  394. Foxwood says:

    Good morning, all. Don’t fret that the Dems have 60 seated in the Senate. The mainstream media wants us to be demoralize. I for one will not fall for it (Belle, you have the power). Sheets Byrd and Splash Kennedy are too sick to make all votes, and Arlen Rectum doesn’t always vote Dem. It doesn’t matter if Richard Smally is the Jr Senator of Minnesota. Don’t let the mainstream media con you. You have the power.

  395. VotingFemale says:

    one more dem more or less means nothing in the grand scheme of things…

    What matters is Obama is getting figured out by the population and they DO NOT LIKE WHAT THEY ARE FIGURING OUT!

    The Enchanted One’s Glitter is wearing off.

  396. karmahd says:

    Sure VF it would be an honor, you have mail, off to work. Check in at lunch, Karma

  397. VotingFemale says:

    got the mail karma… taken care of first thing this am. and thanks for your permission.

  398. rosehips says:

    morning sweet peeps…mmmm cafe au lait.

  399. Foxwood says:

    We can celebrate the Bush victory,

    and the Obama loss.

  400. SamHenry says:

    Actually, dogs hate to be called “sweet.” Good morning humanoids VF, Karm, and cafe au lait.

  401. Foxwood says:

    We can celebrate the Bush victory,

    and the Obama loss.


  402. Foxwood says:

    The Obama Loss.

  403. SamHenry says:

    CNN reports 51% approve of Obama’s health plan. But there is no plan. And there is no cost basis. What are they approving?

  404. Foxwood says:

    Apparently you can’t show two vids.

  405. rosehips says:

    win, lose, draw…call it what you want. shouldn’t of been there.

    too many have died…. for what?

  406. SamHenry says:

    Agreed, “sweetie.” 🙂

  407. rosehips says:

    WASHINGTON – After years of strenuous opposition, Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest private employer, announced Tuesday that it supports a controversial new requirement that businesses contribute to the cost of employee health insurance.

  408. SamHenry says:

    WalMart also came out in support of Obama’s health care plan – coincidence?

  409. rosehips says:

    how you doing this morning, salty sh?

  410. SamHenry says:

    I’m doing just fine peppery person. 🙂

    Walmart in support of President’s plan only strengthens the argument that private insurance companies will go out of business as corporate America embraces his health insurance initiative.

  411. Foxwood says:

    Apparently you have no world understanding Rose.

  412. Foxwood says:

    Are you against freedom? Socialism = loss of freedom.

  413. SamHenry says:

    Fox, friend, a little sweeter to Rose, please :). It’s painful for me to watch – and possibly others.

  414. Foxwood says:

    Are you going to tell me Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism when they had a training camp?

  415. Foxwood says:

    Are you going to tell me Dems didn’t get the same info Bush got?

  416. rosehips says:

    All I’m saying is that I’m glad we are getting out of Iraq. We went in there to stop them from producing WMD. We didn’t find any. Our mission failed. We did not invade to destroy their training camp. We did not invade to retaliate against 9/11. We did not invade to help spread democracy to the Islamic world.

    We failed. oh well. let’s think harder next time.

  417. SamHenry says:

    I’m sorry but the tenor and tone is too much for me this AM.

    Dog Overboard…….

  418. Foxwood says:

    Let’s rephrase that, In your opinion we shouldn’t have been there. In my opinion, and most Americans we did right.

  419. Foxwood says:

    Must be a bad day for you today Rose.

  420. Foxwood says:

    I go with the Fox report. Bush won this one.

  421. rosehips says:

    sh, please don’t go away. I sorry about my tone. I will practice more to improve it.

    CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. May 14-17, 2009. N=1,010 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
    “Do you favor or oppose the U.S. war in Iraq?”
    Favor Oppose Unsure
    34% 65% 1 %

  422. Foxwood says:

    “We failed. oh well. let’s think harder next time.”

    You want to get nasty, I can play nasty.

  423. SamHenry says:

    Dog yelling from shore: Rose – My remarks were directed at FOX. He changed his tone but not before I had jumped ship. I have a doctor’s appointment so I really have to dash. Look forward to seeing you later – Fox included.

  424. Foxwood says:

    Commie News Net. Yeah That’s real news real Americans watch. I wonder why they are tanking.

  425. Foxwood says:

    Commie News Net. Yeah that’s real news real Americans watch. No wonder they are tanking.

  426. Foxwood says:

    Commie News Net. All Americans watch that one. No wonder they are tanking.

  427. Foxwood says:

    Commie News Net. All Americans watch that one. No wonder they are tanking. 🙂

  428. Foxwood says:

    Commie New Network is NOT news.

  429. rosehips says:

    foxy, you call that nasty? ha. that not nasty.

    I don’t want nasty. Please don’t be nasty. It’s unbecoming of a southern gentleman. lol

  430. Foxwood says:

    I haven’t started Rose. Look at yourself.

  431. Foxwood says:

    You can’t bear that the Dems thought there were WMDs there also. No one found them. So what. A dictator is out of office. Obama would have left him in.
    Bush won.

  432. LisaInTX says:

    Morning all.
    Fox I agree about the war and so do most of our troops. They are the ones that are witness to the new democracy that is taking place RIGHT NOW in Iraq and WHY all those Iranian protesters were looking to America to support their cause of democracy. And then those protesters got the shaft from “The Anointed One” ignored, then denounced, but Honduras was recognized right away…lol…all hail the Chavez/Obama regime!

  433. SamHenry says:

    Morning Lisa:

    FOX – I agree with you from time to time but not when you get nasty. I will no longer be on when you are unless this stops. As I said in my e-mail to you – you are too distinguished to do this.

  434. Foxwood says:

    Thank you Lisa, This was a Bush win, but O had to take the credit. That’s narcissism. You know, as by the reaction, that the Dems are pissed.

  435. Foxwood says:

    I was never nasty, You can look to Rose for that.

  436. rosehips says:

    lisa, good morning.

    the iraqis were celebrating in the streets yesterday. I’m not sure why. Were they glad we are leaving, or was it a tribute and a grand farewell?

    Mousavi did not ask for our support. Do the iranian people want us to invade their country and help bring democracy to Iran? I didn’t hear that.

  437. LisaInTX says:

    The WMD’s were there, our country sold them to them. If they were not found, that only means they are STILL THERE, hidden in the desert or have been move to surrounding countries.
    They found whole airplanes hidden in sand dune bunkers.
    Our troops have not pulled out of the country, only from the cities.

  438. Foxwood says:

    All I did, Sam, was post a comment, then ask follow up questions. No more that what VF would do.

  439. Foxwood says:

    How is that nasty?

  440. Foxwood says:

    No, Iranians didn’t want Democracy.

  441. Foxwood says:

    And your saying, Rose, that the Iraqis didn’t want Hussein out? Pretty naive.

  442. SamHenry says:

    Fox – it usually begins with something like:

    Apparently you have no world understanding Rose.

    Then escalates to:

    “you want nasty, I’ll show you nasty”

    VF does not pound Rose over the head repeatedly. I WILL leave a blog where this kind of behavior is tolerated.

  443. SamHenry says:

    I really need to have a blog break. BBL Lisa, Fox, Rose and VF when you return.

  444. Foxwood says:

    again, I don’t see where I was wrong.

  445. rosehips says:

    foxy, I think that some people just don’t appreciate that you get personal. You love to point out how ignorant I am. I’m ill informed. I have no world view.
    It’s one thing to debate but when you get ruffled you resort to mud-slinging.
    It sometimes seems that you revert back to grade school days when boys treated girls nasty before their hormones kicked in and they realized that girls were in control and they better treat them nice.

  446. LisaInTX says:

    phone call— BRB

  447. Foxwood says:

    Ok… I’ve thought about it. I was insensitive and didn’t realize it.

    I apologize.

  448. Foxwood says:

    I apologize, Rose.

  449. Foxwood says:

    I apologize, SamH.

  450. rosehips says:

    apology accepted. 🙂

  451. SamHenry says:

    Apology accepted, Fox. I waited to leave because I knew you to be a gentleman and a scholar. These are not life and death struggles just debates. When I care about someone, I like to nip at their heels until they approach perfection. You have this AM. Now I really have to go to the dentist!

  452. rosehips says:

    see you later sh!

  453. Foxwood says:

    I have to get to my first stop.

  454. rosehips says:

    SINGAPORE, July 1 (Reuters) – The amount of carbon locked away in frozen soils in the far Northern Hemisphere is double previous estimates and rapid melting could accelerate global warming, a study released on Wednesday says.

    According to the U.N. Climate Panel, average temperatures have already risen by about 0.7 deg C since the late nineteenth century and are forecast to rise another 1.8 to 4 deg C by 2100, Scientists say a rapidly warming planet will trigger more intense storms and droughts, rising seas and melting ice caps.

  455. LisaInTX says:

    I haven’t heard the Iranians ‘ask” for our help, but the least Obama could have done was given verbal support to those that were protesting and wanting REAL democracy.
    I’m not surprised in the least by his response. Look at how AMERICANS have been treated here over the Tea Party protests. This negative admin has established very well what their intentions are and how they feel about the true rights of We The People.

  456. LisaInTX says:

    The UN is bogus organization. It was mostly due to them, that America is in Iraq right now. They want our money, yet don’t want to do anything to earn it.

  457. LisaInTX says:

    The dentist….ekkkkk… wishes, they scare me to death!!

  458. LisaInTX says:

    I gotta run and take care of some business….see ya later and hope you and everyone has a great day. 😛

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