Obama will deliver his ass kissing to Islam in Cairo at the expense of Jews and Israel

As Joe the Plumber discovered… without a teleprompter to program what Barack Hussein Obama utters, he often states truths he wishes to hide.

Notice Obama does not speak of Israel and Jews in his position statement. He speaks to Muslims.

In Obama’s book he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” -Barack Hussien Obama

Barack Hussien Obama called Israel a “constant wound … a constant sore [that] does infect all of our foreign policy.”

Photo of Barack Hussien Obama Greeting the Prime Minster of Israel when he arrived at the White House for talks recently:

Obama appears to have blocked media from taking such photos

Obama appears to have blocked media from taking such photos

Obama Greets the King of Saudi Arabia

Obama was not tying his shoe...

Obama was not tying his shoe...

Barack Hussein Obama called on Israel to give up their Nuclear arsenal “in the name world nuclear disarmament.” Yeah right, Barack… like the world will ever be disarmed of nuclear weapons. Go disarm North Korea and go disarm Iran.

The Socialist Media, a proxy of the Socialist Party, has long invested in the portrayal of Iran’s militant puppets, HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH as victims of Israel’s self defense from these terrorist groups initiating attacks on Israel.

Iran is quite QUITE clear… It wants to Wipe Israel off the Face Of The Earth and will not stop until it achieves that goal.

Obama is totally and fully aware of this fact…

Thus, with delicate deliberateness Obama is systematically moving to create a situation where Iran can have what they want.

This is called Appeasement of Tyrants… something Socialists are famous for.

Take a look at what is being said at this Blog:


Thus, the day of Obama’s Cairo Speech to the Muslim World approaches…

Let’s see what is being reported about his pending bow down to Islam:

Obama’s message: I have a dream for Islam

As the president prepares for a key speech in Cairo, Andrew Sullivan gauges his plan for a new Middle East

From The Sunday Times (UK)
May 31, 2009


It is, almost certainly, the most important speech of his presidency. On Thursday Barack Obama will address the Muslim world from Cairo University. And no one quite knows what he is going to say.There is speculation, of course. Last week the Arab press was a-twitter over Obama’s last-minute decision to visit Saudi Arabia en route to Egypt. Was this a swipe at Egypt? Did it signal an endorsement of the Arab peace initiative? Or was it the usual American brown-nosing of the royal autocrats who have all that oil?

Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, fuelled the chatter by insisting on the freezing of West Bank settlements. On Thursday, in a meeting with Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, Obama referred to the 2003 road map agreement which required an end to settlement activity. “We can’t continue the drift,” he said. “We need to get this thing back on track.”

The Israeli press, meanwhile, has seemed close to panic. David Horovitz, editor of The Jerusalem Post, argued that “in the briefing rooms of the American Israel public affairs committee conference [in Washington], as in the corridors of power back home in Israel, the contours were discernible not merely of a crack . . . but of a veritable abyss between Israel and America – a rupture that goes far beyond rhetorical gaps and conflicting emphases”.

One reason for this excitability is aware-ness on all sides of Obama’s huge charismatic clout – and, at the same time, of the near tabula rasa of his views on Middle Eastern diplomacy. Remember his silence during the bombardment of Gaza – and his Delphic distance from the Washington fight over the proposed appointment of Chas Freeman, a critic of Israel, to his national security team?

There are good reasons for the president to keep his views close to himself. George Mitchell, his special envoy, is shuttling around; the new Israeli government relies on a prickly bloc of rightists; the Iranian elections in June could change everything; the remnants of Al-Qaeda are testing the fledgling Iraqi government; and the Muslim nuclear power of Pakistan is in a brutal counter-insurgency campaign.

In such a climate, where you have to find a path between Jews and Arabs, Sun-nis and Shi’ites, you tread slowly and carefully. Obama is as careful as anyone in the presidential office in recent times.

My feeling is he has a shrewd sense of the regional politics and no illusions about fast change. The striking distinction from the Bush legacy is Obama’s conviction that moving tangibly towards a viable two-state solution in Israel/Palestine is the hinge on which this project depends. (It could be argued that George W Bush migrated reluctantly to this view in his second term, under the guidance of Condi Rice.)

Obama is, in this respect, undoubtedly on a collision course with Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, who wants to disarm Iran of nuclear potential before ceding territory that could be used by Iran’s militant proxies. But Obama sees progress in Palestine as a prerequisite for persuading Iran to behave.

Meanwhile, Iran’s nuclear programme is advancing and Netanyahu has declared it must be slowed by the end of the year. Time is running out. Like everyone else, Obama is aware of the dangers. A unilateral Israeli strike on Iran, for example, could be the most disruptive event in US-Israeli relations since Suez. No one wants that.

This conflict will not, one senses, be the point of Obama’s speech. What he wants is a new foundation for America’s relationship with the Muslim world. He chose Cairo over Jakarta, in Indonesia, because he understands that if you can move Islam in its historic centre, the impact is far greater than if you try in its more moderate and tolerant peripheries. (Jakarta would also have led to a mass of biographical angles in the press, which Obama wants to avoid.)

Oddly, I suspect his speech will be less liberal than Bush’s famous address on the need for democracy in the Arab world, which he saw as the cure for Islamism. What Obama brings, that neither of the Bushes could, is his middle name, his skin colour and his biography. His father was an African who lived under imperial rule and Obama spent part of his childhood in a Muslim country – Indonesia – and has Muslim relatives. By daring to go to Cairo, he can show that America is less governed by fear than it once was. He can also show a simple thing: respect.

The speech will be a historic paean to Islam and to Muslim culture. He will appeal to Muslim pride; simply by showing up he will demonstrate that he is trying to defuse and unwind the misunderstandings and enmities that riddle the region.

One hopes there won’t be the usual pabulum about moderates and extremists that is all too familiar to Muslim ears after years of Bush. Instead Obama will be emphatically positive, knowing that a defence of Islam by an American president in Cairo is the one clear statement he can make that will resonate widely.

So here we have the usual Obama paradox: a mass emotional appeal joined to a cool, governing realism. He is trying to do in international affairs what he has done domestically: appeal to the masses in order to apply subtle pressure and leverage on the elites.

If he can make the region’s leaders less able to wield antiAmericanism to cover up their own errors, and if he can shift even to a minor degree the suspicion that young Muslim men feel towards the West, then he could undermine the appeal of Islamism. He could weaken the environment in which terror gathers speed. And he could also make it easier for some Arab autocracies to stay in America’s good graces and cooperate in its fight against terrorism.

Obama will surely fail in the short run. If there is any region that manages to buoy the cynic, it is the Middle East. But he is a patient man and patient in his radicalism. He is attempting to get the forces in that region to respond to him and, by responding to him, to show their cards.

Then, having laid the groundwork on a mass and elite level, he will deal with the problems methodically and sometimes ruthlessly.

What he wants, of course, is a radically new order: a nonnuclear Iran integrated into the region as a friend to Iraq and restraining its militant Shi’ite sectarianism; a two-state solution in Palestine/ Israel that can last; and a slow unwinding of the fear and hostility that 9/11 so dramatically unleashed.

He can dream, I suppose. And we can hope.


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706 Responses to Obama will deliver his ass kissing to Islam in Cairo at the expense of Jews and Israel

  1. Taini says:

    I think when all is said and done, people that voted for Pres. Obama, will start to believe that Pres. Bush was a saint in comparison and wish he was back in the WH.

  2. VotingFemale says:

    I agree with you Taini…

    And I bet you can hear a pin drop over at the Jews for Obama coalition these days…


    And some serious venting at such places as Jews Against Obama


  3. Foxwood says:

    What Iran does not consider, is that WHEN they nuke Israel, the Palestinians will have lost their home also.

  4. Foxwood says:

    Maybe it’s not a consideration?

  5. VotingFemale says:

    When did Religious Fundamentalist Islamics ever considered the consequences to everyday non-jihad Muslim Arabs?

    The non-violent Muslim Arabs are as much victims of Iran’s Shira Law Sociopathic Tyrants as are everyday peaceful Jewish folks.

  6. Foxwood says:

    Maybe all they care about is nuking Israel, to hell with the “collateral” damage.

  7. Foxwood says:

    But you know it will take out the West Bank? Aren’t they supporters of the Palestinians? They have only one goal.

  8. VotingFemale says:

    Fox… only they know what they think they will acomplish by nuking Israel…

    could be they dont really care about anything except wiping Israel of the face of the earth… and those arabs killed in the process get to go to heaven and enjoy eternal life as martyrs.

  9. VotingFemale says:

    I edited the blogpost and added a link to it…


  10. rosehips says:

    This is an excerpt from upi.com from May 5:

    “According to a report Tuesday in the respected Israeli newspaper Haaretz, U.S. national security adviser Gen. James Jones, the former commandant of the U.S. Marines Corps, sent a message to a European foreign minister that read, “The new administration will convince Israel to compromise on the Palestinian question. We will not push Israel under the wheels of a bus, but we will be more forceful toward Israel than we have been under Bush.” ”


    notice the language when Gen. Jones says: “We will not push Israel under the wheels of a bus,”

    Do you think he reads your blogs VF? hahaha

  11. VotingFemale says:

    a comment from that blog…

    debbee said
    March 27, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Obama is so much worse than I ever imagined. All NON-muslim religions under now attack. America is under attack from within and by our so called leader. Our livelihoods are and our basic freedoms will all soon disappear. We need term limits for the congress via an amendment to the constitution. Americans need to study the constitution. Americans need to get off their butts, stop their whinning and waiting for a handout via welfare et al. We need to start rebuilding our nation, our job base which will soon all but disappear to India and China. Please pledge to NEVER again vote for Obama are any of his mindless followers!!

  12. rosehips says:

    notice that the wordpress url says: jewagainstobama, as in a singular jew? If the group calls itself “Jews Against Obama”, I wonder why their url doesn’t say “jewsagainstobama”? I checked and it’s available. hmmmm….

  13. Taini says:

    Good Morning VF and Foxwood.
    I was stunned that any person of Jewish faith would vote for Obama, muchless become public advocates for him. Just crazy man, just crazy.

    Very good point! That land could not be inhabited for a hundred years because of the radiation contamination. But the point is I think, they do not care. The end results is all they care about, therefore justifies the means.

  14. VotingFemale says:

    Do you think I read ‘his’ blog? hahahahaha

    from: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1089247.html

    Last update – 15:01 31/05/2009
    Israeli ministers: No West Bank settlement freeze
    By Barak Ravi, Haaretz Correspondent and News Agencies

    Senior members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet reiterated Sunday that the government has rejected a U.S. demand to halt all activity in West Bank settlements, despite strongly-worded demands from the Obama administration to do so.

    “I want to make it clear that the current Israeli government will not accept in any way the freezing of legal settlement activity in Judea and Samaria [West Bank,” Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz told Army Radio.

    Meanwhile, Interior Minister Eli Yishai of Shas told his fellow cabinet ministers Sunday that the U.S. demand on settlement activity was tantamount to “expulsion.”

    President Barack Obama and his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, have both made very public calls for Israel to institute a total freeze on construction in all West Bank settlements. Tensions between Washington and Jerusalem have been growing as a result.

    Israeli political officials have accused the administration of taking a preferential line toward the Palestinians on this issue.

    Some officials expressed disappointment after Tuesday’s round of meetings in London with George Mitchell, Obama’s envoy to the Middle East. “We’re disappointed,” said one senior official. “All of the understandings reached during the [George W.] Bush administration are worth nothing.”

    Another official said the U.S. administration is refusing every Israeli attempt to reach new agreements on settlement construction. “The United States is taking a line of granting concessions to the Palestinians that is not fair toward Israel,” he said.

    The Israeli officials attributed the unyielding U.S. stance to the speech Obama will make in Cairo this Thursday, in which he is expected to deliver a message of reconciliation to the Arab and Muslim worlds

    Mitchell was joined at the London talks by his deputy David Hale, Daniel B. Shapiro (the head of the National Security Council’s Middle East desk), and State Department deputy legal adviser Jonathan Schwartz.

    The Israeli delegation consisted of National Security Adviser Uzi Arad,
    Netanyahu diplomatic envoy Yitzhak Molcho, Defense Ministry chief of staff Mike Herzog and deputy prime minister Dan Meridor.

    Herzog spoke to Mitchell and his staff about understandings reached by former prime ministers Ehud Olmert and Ariel Sharon with the Bush administration on allowing continued building in the large West Bank settlement blocs. He asked that a similar agreement be reached with the Obama government.

    Meridor spoke of the complexities characterizing the coalition headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and said Washington’s demands of a complete construction freeze would lead to the dissolution of the Netanyahu government.

    The Israeli delegates were stunned by the uncompromising U.S. stance, and by statements from Mitchell and his staff that agreements reached with the Bush administration were unacceptable. An Israeli official privy to the talks said that “the Americans took something that had been agreed on for many years and just stopped everything.”

    “What about the Tenet Report, which demanded that the Palestinians dismantle the terror infrastructure?” said the official, referring to former CIA director George Tenet. “It’s unfair, and there is no reciprocity shown toward the Palestinians.”

    The Israeli envoys said the demand for a total settlement freeze was not only unworkable, but would not receive High Court sanction. Tensions reportedly reached a peak when, speaking of the Gaza disengagement, the Israelis told their interlocutors, “We evacuated 8,000 settlers on our own initiative,” to which Mitchell responded simply, “We’ve noted that here.”

    Defense Minister Ehud Barak will travel to Washington on Sunday in an attempt to put further pressure on the Obama administration.

    “We want to reach an agreement with the United States on ways to advance the peace process,” said a senior Jerusalem official. The U.S. stance, he said, “will stall the process and bring about tension and stagnation, which will hurt both Israel and the United States.”

    rosehips says

    This is an excerpt from upi.com from May 5:

    “According to a report Tuesday in the respected Israeli newspaper Haaretz, U.S. national security adviser Gen. James Jones, the former commandant of the U.S. Marines Corps, sent a message to a European foreign minister that read, “The new administration will convince Israel to compromise on the Palestinian question. We will not push Israel under the wheels of a bus, but we will be more forceful toward Israel than we have been under Bush.” ”


    notice the language when Gen. Jones says: “We will not push Israel under the wheels of a bus,”

    Do you think he reads your blogs VF? hahaha

  15. Taini says:

    Both of those videos on that other wordpress link have been deactivated because of TOU? How strange?

  16. SamHenry says:

    Excuse me VF but although I have to watch my blood pressure these days, I somehow think a vent may help. The one thing Obama forgets is this very basic principle about relationships: If you can turn your back on Israel; you can someday do it on Iran. Both countries are non-arab. There was a more diplomatic way to handle the Israeli settlements on the West Bank to which previous administrations have been against. He knows how to be politic. He has let me down – first with fiscal policy and now with international politics. He and Michele did not observe local custom in the UK in the treatment of the Queen; they did in the Arab world. This is not bringing the world together; this is jumping in on the other side full tilt.

  17. Taini says:

    Good morning Rosehips

  18. rosehips says:

    It’s time to stop pandering to Israel. I am glad we finally have a president that will talk straight with them and let them know that Palestinians have a right to exist and they better get on the bus or stop asking for handouts from American taxpayers.

  19. rosehips says:

    good morning taini!

  20. rosehips says:

    hey there’s sam! wb sam!

  21. SamHenry says:

    I have forgot local custom at VF blog – good morning VF – good morning all. Nice to meet you Taini.

  22. Taini says:

    Then Sen. Obama ran his campaign from the center and claimed to be the victim of racial discrimination when very little of that was the case. It was he that drew attention to his ‘blackness’ and used that as a tactic to hurt those that opposed him.
    Now, he is showing and proving more everyday, how far left his ideology is and America and the world, will pay the price for their misguided faith and hope in empty rhetoric.

  23. VotingFemale says:

    Hi SamHenry and thanks for your input, dear.

    I am sorry that my pre-election predictions of Obama’s anti-Jewish racism and his innate Muslim self-identification and sympathies have come true… I hoped beyond hope that I was wrong… I wasn’t. If it would do any good I would move to Israel and stand with them.

    SamHenry says

    Excuse me VF but although I have to watch my blood pressure these days, I somehow think a vent may help. The one thing Obama forgets is this very basic principle about relationships: If you can turn your back on Israel; you can someday do it on Iran. Both countries are non-arab. There was a more diplomatic way to handle the Israeli settlements on the West Bank to which previous administrations have been against. He knows how to be politic. He has let me down – first with fiscal policy and now with international politics. He and Michele did not observe local custom in the UK in the treatment of the Queen; they did in the Arab world. This is not bringing the world together; this is jumping in on the other side full tilt.

  24. Taini says:

    Good to meet you too SamHenry.
    I agree with your stance. The Socialist agenda roller coaster ride has just begun. Hope everyone is safely buckled in for the thrills.

  25. SamHenry says:

    I was a bit suspicious of his “grass roots” movement with the website, etc. That was too slick by half. And now he maintains it like a special interest group. It is one thing to keep something like that after an election to use as an information outlet; quite another to use it to rally the troops to spring into action between campaigns IN AN ACTIVE WAY THROUGH THEM. They want to maintain control. I cut them off. This is the first public display of my displeasure at being betrayed by a candidate.

  26. VotingFemale says:

    And a good morning to you too!!!

    SamHenry says

    I have forgot local custom at VF blog – good morning VF – good morning all. Nice to meet you Taini.

  27. SamHenry says:

    Apologies VF, I did not know of iReport of of this Blog until 2009. I was “blinded by the light.”

  28. VotingFemale says:

    I noticed that also… SamHenry…

    SamHenry says

    I was a bit suspicious of his “grass roots” movement with the website, etc. That was too slick by half. And now he maintains it like a special interest group. It is one thing to keep something like that after an election to use as an information outlet; quite another to use it to rally the troops to spring into action between campaigns IN AN ACTIVE WAY THROUGH THEM. They want to maintain control. I cut them off. This is the first public display of my displeasure at being betrayed by a candidate.

  29. Taini says:

    Good to see you voicing your concern. We all must face the truth in our own time.

    I also had hope that Pres. Obama would govern from the center, but had many doubts because of his past upbringing and education.
    The core of who and what he really is, is now becoming self-evident for all that wish to see it.

  30. VotingFemale says:

    Barack blinded many people who were hopeful of what he could do…

  31. Taini says:

    lol @ the song. I always wondered, did the song really contain “wrapped up like a douche” or was that a duce? lol

  32. SamHenry says:

    The sleeze, Sarkozy and his pal the Prez will be at Normany beach head to observe the 65th anniversary of the D-Day invasion. The Queen was not invited or the invitation lost. Those boys are the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. I think if the Queen did get the invitation, she gave it the Royal Flush. It makes me livid to see those two in the position of remembering our fallen men and those of our allies. I’ve been to Normandy’s cemeteries and beaches and museums. These two are carrying on as if France was liberated from the British.

  33. Taini says:

    I’m becoming educated about Ireport. Seems most of the members here are members or ex-members.

  34. SamHenry says:

    Taini – I think it is like a good poem – much has been left by the artist to interpretation!

  35. SamHenry says:

    That is true. Personally I remain a member of iReport because I believe in freedom of speech. I will not be chased off the site by the reprimands of my so called friends. I also will not be made to feel a traitor for making comments on ANY OTHER BLOG IN CYBERSPACE.

  36. Taini says:

    I’ve heard that the Queen was the only person to have been a living participate in D-Day.
    That she did not receive an invitation is a blatant slap in the face insult.

  37. rosehips says:

    I posted a new ireport this morning about the pow wow/fur trade encampment I attended yesterday. I had a lot of trouble trying to upload it, per usual. ugh.


  38. The Morb says:

    Always an interesting read VF !!! … and you’d have to ask Bruce about the lyrics !!! …

  39. Taini says:

    Good for you. I’ve heard that other members here have also met with the same problem, but have chosen to follow their own dictate on where and who they associate with.

  40. SamHenry says:

    Others (vets) from the UK will participate. She is the only head of state to have served in the military during WWII. In the movie “THE QUEEN” I believe there was a scene in which she had to make adjustments under the hood to her Land Rover. That was not fiction. She did major transport during the war. Her family was famous for remaining the London during the blitz when others evacuated. Her unflinching belief in duty is her legacy – along with her lesser known reputation as a prankster and as a woman with humor. The Royal family’s handling of Diana and her illness was not a thing to laud. However the Queen’s willingness to adapt and change her stance was.

  41. VotingFemale says:


    You will never be treated that way here. that is a promise.

    I am and have always been pro-political choice and personally never yielded to being pressured into what I do or not do.

    And though I did not acknowledge your message to me via a third party… I appreciated it and understood.

    SamHenry says

    That is true. Personally I remain a member of iReport because I believe in freedom of speech. I will not be chased off the site by the reprimands of my so called friends. I also will not be made to feel a traitor for making comments on ANY OTHER BLOG IN CYBERSPACE.

  42. SamHenry says:

    PS – it is unclear if she did or did not receive an invitation – something Sarkozy could have rectified. I don’t think it was a snub. I think it was gross incompetence and lack of judgment as in his home situation.

  43. rosehips says:

    Blinded by the light,
    revved up like a deuce,
    another runner in the night
    Blinded by the light,
    revved up like a deuce,
    another runner in the night
    Blinded by the light,
    revved up like a deuce,
    another runner in the night

    I guess that’s a reference to the deuce coup…from wiki:

    A Deuce Coupe is a 1932 Ford Model B Coupe (deuce being for the year). This was the definitive hot-rod and featured an optional Ford flathead V8 engine when the car was introduced. A pink slip was the California title to the car and was called this after the colour of the paper.

  44. SamHenry says:

    VF said: And though I did not acknowledge your message to me via a third party… I appreciated it and understood.

    I understand the ways of VF. I was not insulted. I trust in people until THEY themselves tell me things to indicate otherwise. Your close blog friends reassured me of your understanding. I have not been well and also under great pressure.

  45. VotingFemale says:

    Hey Morb! Good to see ya, dear!!

    The Morb says

    Always an interesting read VF !!! … and you’d have to ask Bruce about the lyrics !!! …

  46. SamHenry says:

    I have to remain true to my inquiring mind and I have made friends here – have I not FOX and Karm – a twosome that should have a radio show! They, among others and of course VF.

  47. SamHenry says:

    Good to meet you, Morb. I’ve visited your site. We are, as you may know, residents of the same wordpress neighborhood.

  48. VotingFemale says:

    Her Majesty the Queen of England deserves a lot of respect.

    The differences of Obama between his acts, and omissions of acts, which conveyed his of lack of respect towards her contrasted with his behavior upon greeting the King of Saudi Arabia speaks volumes.

    And he knew exactly what he was doing and the messages it all sent and to whom it was sent.

  49. Taini says:

    I enjoyed the video very much. It is good to see that Native traditions are still being honored and taught, to the little ones especially.
    Though I may not agree with everything my elders say or advise, I was taught to always honor and respect their opinion.
    This is something that in todays society of young people, that is lost for the most part. Maybe more people need to go to the mountains and find their true selves and meaning of life.

  50. VotingFemale says:

    SamHenry, Fox’s selections of songs in keeping with the flow of moods during conversations is wonderful!

    It so adds to the energy and spirit of personal interactions here.

  51. SamHenry says:

    RE Fox’s song selections?

    These are very fine and I looked forward to them. He is quite the music historian and also gets into musical forms with which I am not familiar but which I have now come to like. I left a message on his blog that he should make a list of urls on is site!

  52. Taini says:

    Thank you for finding the words to that song.
    How funny that I’ve never been able to figure those silly lyrics out. lol
    “Revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night”.

  53. rosehips says:

    thank you taini. The vid was fun to make.

    I love the respect the elders are given in the native communities. It was very evident at the pow wow yesterday.

  54. SamHenry says:

    Taini – I am a semi-student of the Iroquois. I live in Seneca territory – the guardians of the western door of the longhouse. At the local pharmacy one day, a woman needed to get ahead of me in line. I told her I was old and used to waiting and I was close to the time when my tribe would leave me under a tree and move on to other hunting grounds. Silly me, she was a Seneca. She was in shock that I revered Native American culture, knew about traditions and had loved the dances on the turtle mound.

  55. rosehips says:

    If you didn’t like the sex pistols version, try this:

  56. VotingFemale says:

    Rose, I am envious of you visit to the Ceremony of Tears Pow Wow…

    So happy you could share with us your video… please consider posting it at youtube…

  57. rosehips says:

    thank you vf. I can do that.

  58. Taini says:

    The elders are our memory base of wisdom to our youth. “Been there, done that”. If not for their guidance and life experiences, how would the tribes have survived.
    Many children today argue with their parents and show little honor for their parents life experiences. This is usually to the childrens detriment.

  59. VotingFemale says:

    I am being dragged away from the computer to go to the driving range and putting practice.

    Hugs to you all and see ya Later!!!!

  60. rosehips says:

    I agree taini!

    see you later vf!

  61. SamHenry says:


    I have lived in Canada and the US. The Native Americans happily do not acknowledge the international border. I was an archivist in addition to having been a librarian. I belonged to the only international archival group in North America. The Canadian side Native Americans developed excellent archives not only to maintain land records but also culture. Many recordings of languages have been made. On the US side, this same thing has happened. The Mohawks have been the most active in trying to regain tribal lands. Their website is wonderful. Our Iroquois artifacts at the Rochester Museum and Science Center were collected by a former Native American head of the Museum and are a lasting resource for all peoples. In Victor, near here, Native Americans came together from all parts of the country to construct the first long house using the original techniques on the foundation of an original. I am fortunate to live in this area where the two cultures meet.

  62. SamHenry says:

    I said “to construct the first long house..”

    It should have read to construct the first recreation of a long house

  63. Foxwood says:

    Yeah, Morb, if you listen to the Boss sing it you know the word.

  64. SamHenry says:

    “drive” safely, VF. I must also attend to luncheon. I will stop by again bye all – especially Taini.

  65. Foxwood says:

    George Mitchell? Who put the lead singer of Wham! in Parliament?

  66. Taini says:

    I bet she was surprised. lol
    In my opinion, it is good to embrace the past and take the good that you find and not focus only on the injustices done. Remember them, but not allow those horrors from the past to rule our present.
    My great grand mother was Cherokee from GA, who married a white man. They were forced on the Trail of Tears to relocate in OK.
    I was raised ‘white”, but many traditions were passed down in my family that I am still exploring the root of where they came from.

  67. Foxwood says:

    Been out grilling… Will be in and out again.

    Rose, you need to look at what Hamas is doing. They are the ones that are doing the Palestinians wrong. Israel will not give up land until they can be assured they will not have any more attacks. Hamas has no intention of suing for peace with Israel.

  68. Foxwood says:

    There is a difference between Hamas ans the Palestinians and you need to see that. Hamas are thugs.

  69. Taini says:

    There is land in my family that by accident when I was very young and out riding, I discovered which held many Caddo Native burial mounds.
    Though not of my heritage, my family has maintained and guarded these mounds in respect of their ancestors.

  70. SamHenry says:

    Taini – I rechecked the site to see if there were a comment from you on my Native American adventures. I am happy to hear that you have known both cultures and that you have learned from this to move on. I think it only means that more productive outcomes for both is now possible. Mutual respect is always the key. The Trail of Tears was a terrible chapter in American history; but at about the same time, there was an artist who fully appreciated Native American culture that traveled all over the country to capture on canvas their dress and to comment on their culture. I have a second edition of the book. It is down stairs but I think it is called Caitlin on the Indians. Here is a description of it:

    CATLIN, George. NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS. Being Letters and Notes on Their Manners, Customs, and Conditions, Written during Eight Year’ Travel amongst the Wildest Tribes of Indians in North America, 1832-1839. Philadelphia: Leary, Stuart, 1913. 2 vols, 8vo, xii, 298; xii, 304, 180 color lithographic plates (including frontis & folding map). Orig. red ribbed cloth, pictorially blocked in gilt & black, t.e.g. Very good set. $1800.

    ¶ Very attractive edition of the most reliable record of Indian life prepared by any scholar, this edition housed in a beautiful publisher’s binding. Having left law for portraiture, George Catlin (1796-1872) had been interested in Indians, merely having seen them battle near his birthplace in Philadelphia. When he witnessed a convention of Indians that had just arrived in Philadelphia from the West, his fascination grew. After encouragement by his adventurous wife and much deliberation, he embarked on his journey into the Western wilderness, at first with Superintendent of Indian Affairs, William Clark, with whom he went to Prairie du Chien for peace negotiations with the Sioux, Missourri, Omaha, Iowa, Sac and Fox. His efforts at illustration were often hampered by distrust of Indians who feared that they would die if their likenesses were captured. He also ventured to Minnesota and Florida. Cf. Field 260, Howes 241 & Wagner-Camp 84. Wheat, Transmissippi, 453, 454, 455.

  71. Taini says:

    I have to go too.
    Something funny I’d like to share.
    The word Winnebago, used as a name of a brand of RV’s, means, “Filthy Water People”. lol

  72. Taini says:

    Thank you SamHenry for that information. I shall see if I can acquire a copy of it.

  73. Taini says:

    Lewis was the last name of my great grandmother. I am not sure of her ancestry before she married, but I am researching it. Thank you again for the info.

  74. Foxwood says:

    I was busy SH, I got you set up for auto comments now tho.

  75. Foxwood says:

    I was wondering what happend to your SH. I thought the iCrap topic might have been too heated. 🙂

  76. Foxwood says:

    I’m done, Rose. Can you come out and play?

  77. SamHenry says:


    You probably know these sources for research of Cherokee in GA but here they are anyway:


    State of Georgia Vital Statistics – or at the local level – county.

    The Georgia State Library
    The Georgia State Archives
    The US Bureau of Indian Affairs
    The Library of Congress
    The National Archives

    Good luck and if I find anything else in my travels, I will let you know.

  78. Foxwood says:

    Time to come out and play!

  79. SamHenry says:

    Taini – the Caitlin book was just to let you know that even Whites at that time were preserving information of Native Americans. In fact, during or after the Cavil War, an actual kind of sound recordings of languages was made under some kind of project. Whites and Native Americans have both worked to preserve culture although taking land!

  80. SamHenry says:

    Fox – can’t play current vid from you. It says it has been disabled. Now I have to go make luncheon. I am starving

  81. SamHenry says:

    FOX – just noticed your comment about “the other side.” No I still make short vids there about topics that interest me no matter what the subjects they “want.” I have very high blood pressure that has reared its ugly head in recent weeks from worries over losing my house but also from being overweight, inactive (computer love) and genetics. My finances are not good and I am old and sick. Not a good combo. I don’t want to end up in my brother’s basement! I go to bed with these worries and wake up to them in the AM. I should get out today for a walk or something. Good to communicate once again and to share a song or “twa” as my Scots (1/4) ancestors would say.

  82. SamHenry says:

    Fox – PS I retreated with my tail between my legs to rest from EVERYTHING including pressures on the home front and at iReport. I am feeling better on new meds and have had time to reflect and I feel I have to travel my own intellectual path and it takes me everywhere. As Yogi Bera said “when you come to a fork in the road, take it.”

    I am also happy to hear I am set up on auto pilot on your site. I promise not to talk too much. I was a bit blabby here today since it has been a long time and I wanted to get to know Taini. Have a good afternoon in Loosiana. Have a sip of the dawg that bit ya fer me.

  83. rosehips says:

    foxy, I wish I could play but I have an assignment for school I am working on and I want to go play volleyball with some friends today. I will check in with you though when I get the chance. All done bbqing? Cool.

    Is it hot down on the bayou today?

  84. Foxwood says:

    Iiiiiyeeeeee! yeah, boy it’s hot. But the skeeters don come out in the heet, as they say around here.

  85. Foxwood says:

    Blues won’t play, maybe some Led.

  86. arlenearmy says:

    Sam Henry…
    Elevate the feet. You would feel much better. I tried it & the swelling went down. And you are not old. You act like a young woman.

  87. arlenearmy says:

    I think more folks have native american in their blood than they realize. Has anyone here ever submitted to a DNA for ancestry reasons ? I hear there is a lab in Tulsa, but the DNA stuff sound complicated to me.

  88. Foxwood says:

    Yeah SH, what Arlene said, and I’ve seen that photo, you don’t look as old as you said.

  89. Foxwood says:

    Arlene, I used to love Tulsa. Way to big for me anymore.

  90. arlenearmy says:

    I go to Tulsa about 3 times a year. I think Tulsa is more diverse. But I think Oklahoma City has more people.

  91. arlenearmy says:

    The better looking part of this state is Tahlequah (in my opinion). Many go there to get more info about about getting applications to be carded (Cherokees).

  92. Foxwood says:

    I lived in Tulsa for most of my youth. I go once or twice a year. Mom and Dad still live there…

  93. Foxwood says:

    I knew alot of people around Claremore, Pryor, Tahlequah, and down south in the Choctaw Nation Honabia.

  94. SamHenry says:

    Back from lunch for a minute and then outta here. Arlene – good to hear from you. Thanks to you and FOX for your kind comments on my age. I like to feel young. I may be an old dawg but I put up a picture of a young one just to inspire me. He’s out guarding the entire neighborhood now

  95. Foxwood says:

    Your funny girl 🙂

  96. arlenearmy says:

    The dog that adopted us got ran over the other day. He caused all sorts of problems, such as spreading the trash bags on the road. He trashed my garden & dug up holes. He even went to the nearby farm & harrassed the neighbor’s cattles.

    We told folks that it was not our dog, as this dog just showed up on our property. We don’t know where he came from.

    He ran out in the road chasing vehicles & a truck hit him.

  97. SamHenry says:

    Arlene, there is a whole lot of revisionist history that has to happen. First, we can ALL trace our DNA back to AFRICA. People like to forget this. Bible aside, this is the “physical world” proof. AND if we do have lemur brothers/sisters, they sure didn’t live in Paris. I have to laugh at the pictures of JC as a light skinned brown haired son of God and not the dark haired olive skinned man he must have been. He lived as a Jew and considered himself one when he died. Only his followers were “Christian.” Hey did I get it all down in a paragraph?

  98. SamHenry says:

    History of the World Part II…..

  99. arlenearmy says:

    brb … samhenry …. i gotta exercise my feet again. toes getting cramped.

  100. SamHenry says:

    I’m so sorry about the dog even if he was bad – it’s not a fun thing to see – a poor dumb animal killed but the road IS the biggest killer of them. I spent a ruddy fortune on electronic collars for Sam and Imp because they gravitated to the road as well. And plastic bags – what is it with dogs and plastic? Last week Imp was throwing up all over the place. I figured it had to be something she ate. So I started having her lick Vaseline to help it pass. Next AM the vet wanted to see her right away. I flew over there only to have her vacuate the damn thing on the vet’s front lawn. AND because the bag was in a kind of string when it came out, she danced in it. There was S….. Everwhere and I was also saying it. However, she still had to go on an antibiotic because when they do something like that, it can make tears, etc. in the intestinal track. She did have an elevated fever; I had elevated blood pressure at the bill. Are we intelligent humans or what, Arlene. I say we put them on and arc and then tow it out to sea….

  101. please excuse my French…, but the dumb bastard!

  102. SamHenry says:

    Hi warrantonegirl. Could have been a dumb bitch – we have to be careful 🙂

  103. SamHenry says:

    I “babysit’ for two elderly Basset Hounds when their “mother” is away. They get into all kinds of trouble on the farm where they live. They slink into the barn to eat horse poop – apparently a finer pate than dog poop. Then around midnight, one got her head caught between a barn door jamb and a stock fence. The next day she peed in the dining room so I was suddenly a scullery maid. I do love them and when we get to the end of the drive for their walk I say: “Bassets, Ho.” They did not understand the St Patrick’s day parade in March. They are French heritage and watch too much Monty Python.

  104. Foxwood says:

    I was taught in Science class as a wee lad, that God produce the Big Bang.

    We don’t know how long God’s day is. I believe one can believe in evolution and God. All of God’s children in the beginning lived for hundreds of years. We just don’t know.

  105. SamHenry says:

    Fox… the big bang hmmmmmm.

    I’m glad we can reconcile evolution and God. I always saw it that way but others were not reading the Bible with the same glasses. I like it that we just don’t know. I think life is richer for the mysteries. Like, it’s a mystery to me why an hour later I am still here when the outside calls. Ah, well

  106. SamHenry says:

    Hundreds of years of life FOX? My Social Security will surely be wasted by that time. Now what?

  107. SamHenry says:

    Fore … locusts coming through … that’s what ..I have to go – hold my place, FOX

  108. SamHenry says:

    PS FOX – These bugs will be playing in the LPGA at LOCUST Hill in Rochester Next Week. It’s no joke that they play golf. It’s in the Bible – I think in the Apocrypha.

  109. Foxwood says:

    What I’m saying is that God made the earth in 7 days. We don’t know how long his days are? Maybe the translation of day is wrong?

  110. Foxwood says:

    God talked to Moses because when he tried to talk to the rest of the Hebrews, they could not comprehend him. So Moses when on the mountain by himself to get God’s laws.

  111. Foxwood says:

    You are funny SH. 🙂

  112. SamHenry says:

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I thought he was the great clockmaker. He made the clock and then just set it ticking. FOX he has to have a sense of time. OK I guess he did; the people who wrote about him did not – that’s it. Blame it on the scribes. Who were they anyway just a bunch of boys sitting around in the mountains thinking and writing, thinking and writing, then desperate and writing, desperate and writing and then drinking and writing, drinking and writing – they lost all sense of time….

  113. SamHenry says:

    Seriously, you are quite right. We don’t know what their measure of time was and there are fly specks on manuscripts that corrupt the translation, etc. Ah, well, back to the humor I get stuck in – if they subscribed to a month of Sundays then that would compress time and so it would all work out just fine.

  114. SamHenry says:

    I’m dyslexic FOX, I first thought you said that God Spoke with Mooses (which the scribes got wrong because we all know the plural is….?) Moses just went up on the mountain to get a better reception on his cell phone. “Can you hear me now”? “Yes, God, now I’ve got my tablet ready, fire away.” And so on. Now there are not a lot of typos you can make writing in stone. So all of the laws are correct. Most people are incorrect and this is a problem rectifying the two.

  115. Foxwood says:

    I’m back to we don’t know. When Henry the VII let the rabble read the Bible, it let everybody interpret it.

  116. arlenearmy says:

    On topic w/this blog, Obama spins his tail around this Muslim I.D. he is labeled with. Whether he’s christian, budda or muslin or even Mormon .. he’s needs to come clean about what HE is.

    Perhaps the truth of the matter is that Obama HAS NO RELIGION.

    I wonder if Obama joined a church yet. We all know that his real daddy was a muslim & he acknowledges such. BUT what is revealing is that he WILL NOT say out loud what religion his mother was. Wasn’t Obama’s mom an atheist ?

  117. Foxwood says:

    I can’t stop LMAO.

  118. SamHenry says:

    Well, FOX, a lot of people in the Vatican thought Henry VIII (didn’t you mean him?) was rabble or worse. He belonged to the wife of the week club. Do you know he was actually caught with a woman on the beach in Miami while still married to his first wife? Well, Westminster Abbey then went from being a very wonderful outlet of Vatican ideals and principles and became the seat of secular, titular heads of the Church in England. Now since Henry and the gang busted loose in that manner – disrearding all the laws Moses got from God, is it any wonder the Anglicans are splintering now? They’ve been taught to do that.

  119. SamHenry says:

    I think actions speak louder than words. I don’t see pictures of him at church Sundays. He is said to be at Camp David. Last I heard that was not a Hotel in Tel Aviv. He is trying to be all things to all people and you cannot be that. If you keep going down that road, after awhile no one will trust you because you are a nothing. You bring people together more effectively when you stand for something and are true to it and you reach out to others.

  120. Foxwood says:

    Yeah it was Henry the VIII, I missed a I…

  121. Foxwood says:

    Arlene, I think Obama’s afraid to be caught at a church. Or maybe there’s not a church that really wants the Rev. Wright publicity?

  122. SamHenry says:


    I believe his mother was an Athiest. He was close to her. Perhaps he went that way.

  123. arlenearmy says:

    I want to make correction to my last comment. I really don’t know who Obama’s “real” daddy was. It is “said” or rumored that Obama Sr. is on the birth certificate as the biological father. At least that’s what the mother claims.

    Nonetheless, Obama Sr.’s religion as stated in my prior comment stands uncorrected, until proved otherwise.

  124. Foxwood says:

    I guess I need to listen to them before I play them, That wasn’t Peter Noone.

  125. arlenearmy says:

    I heard that several churches in D.C. have asked the Obama family to visit.

    What are those 2 girls gonna do on Sunday ? They need to go to somebody’s church, even if Michelle has to take them.

    If Obama wants to go to a mosque, that’s fine also. But that family needs to go somewhere & they need to JOIN. They need a church home.

  126. SamHenry says:

    Arlene – sorry I took the blog off topic. Hope there are no hard feelings – especially about my blog before you left. I hope you realize that I, like FOX see both God and Darwin as working together. I sincerely believe that we all are from Africa and that on the Darwinian side, we have just discovered a distant cousin in the Lemur fossil just found (did you hear about that?) I would not insult you for the world. I often think in shorthand. Sorry, my good friend. I just wanted you to know that I can see beyond surfaces.

  127. Foxwood says:

    I agree Arlene, the girls should go… they may be indoctrinated already, but sometimes that don’t work. I’m a prime example… I didn’t come out as my Mom and Dad wanted…

  128. SamHenry says:

    But you came out as we wanted, FOX

  129. SamHenry says:

    PS Arlene – I am an Episcopalian who believes in the hold scriptures more than a specific religious institution and I may be found Thursdays at the Abbey of the Genesee at a service of Psalms with my friends of the Order.

  130. Foxwood says:

    I’d be a Lib if I came out as my Mom and Dad. But I got to love them.

    Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

  131. SamHenry says:

    FOX I think that all we have to do is honor our parents. I think deep down they love you no matter what you believe and the same is true on your side. That is the nature of this bond.

  132. arlenearmy says:

    I did not find anything offense you said at all. I was posting a comment to VF for her to see when she gets back online. Sometimes, we miss each other online. I get up late & she gets up early. I retires early & I’m a night owl.

  133. SamHenry says:

    RE Obama’s beliefs. His girls spend most of their time with their grandmother. I believe she is a churchgoer. But if she isn’t in DC then she will still instill in them the values she holds. The one thing I credit the Obamas for is their sense of family.

  134. arlenearmy says:

    correction: VF retires early and I’m the night owl.

    darn, the key board is glitchy.

  135. SamHenry says:


    I have a wireless and I HATE it. I will buy another when I’m back working.

  136. SamHenry says:

    Arlene, you and I run on the same bio clock.

  137. arlenearmy says:

    Fox & SamHenry
    What I never understood was the deal w/ Israel & the Jews. Why do folks get upset if America dont help Israel ?

    Perhaps somebody can explain this an “easy to understand” manner to me. Im not trying to be funny, but I really and truly do not know. That is why I am asking.

  138. Foxwood says:

    I have no bio clock… I run when work tells me to… for however long that lasts…

  139. arlenearmy says:

    If I dont learn anything on the blogs today, I do want to learn the Jew & Israel ordeal as it relates to America.

  140. Foxwood says:

    Political or Religious? The Religious aspect really scares me.

  141. Hey SamHenry, sorry about that, I had just watched the first video of that imposter obma and i was so ticked off but had to leave right away too, but ran to the end of comments and posted what I posted. I saw your remark about a girl B and will have to catch up on that too. I guess I shouldn’t comment and leave, sorry what a jerk I was…

  142. SamHenry says:

    Arlene, I am not a scholar on the history of the relationship between Israel and the US. Part of the answer I believe goes as far back as the founding of the State of Israel -in part of Palestine that used to be a British Protectorate. We were there at that time in some capacity supporting the birth of the State of Israel. That part of the history is where I am weak and others on the blog can perhaps let you know more about the history of our involvement here.
    Then there is the fact that much of the Jewish diaspora are here both before and after WWII. New York State where I live has a large Jewish Population. Rochester where I was born has a very large population and I was schooled in that culture and have many friends that are part of the Jewish community. Therefore I can speak to the Jewish support of Israel in my own area. Many are not Zionists but they all support Israel in some way. I was an honorary member of a chapter of Hadassah that supported the hospital there – one of the best in the Middle East. So Jews here and many of their friends are supporters of the Jewish State. It has been a tradition for over 50 years for the US to support Israel. However, the federal government did so really with little or no attention paid to the Palestinians and their plight. The whole picture in that area is VERY complicated. I support Israel and Palestine but there are internal parties in both that throw a wrench into peace. Hamas on the Palestinian side has been just as destructive to Palestine as the Israeli Army when the two are at war. I think Obama has moved too quickly and not very diplomatically to make a correction in the course of the US Ship of State. There is a way to Honor and support Israel while bringing support and respect to Palestine and the Palestinian people. With the international community out of it, a lot of strong ties exist between the ordinary citizens of the two states. The international community have their agenda; the locals have theirs. Perhaps we need to pay more heed to the locals? I am not sure here.

  143. arlenearmy says:

    bbl yall
    gotta water the garden … yeah in the heat.

  144. SamHenry says:

    Warrantonegirl, are you saying you are a drive-through blogger? That’s OK. I know you’ll get back to me. I’m a trusting ole dawg.

  145. SamHenry says:

    Amazing. The news is full of the GM bankruptcy to be announced tomorrow. Timing is of the essence. Obama, the head of the Company, will be out of town this week. I cannot believe I have lived to see the destruction of GM. WHY is the US having some GM vehicles built in China for import? For China is one thing but for US? That is treacherous. I really have to get outside!

  146. SamHenry says:

    OK I leave you with a bit of musical history. This is played in its full form (including the vivat, vivat, vivat Elizabeth Regina) whenever a king/queen of England is crowned. It is based on psalm 122. The last quiet part of it when the choir sings “pray for the peace of Jerusalem..” always gets to me. It is a kind of musical, spiritual home that part.

  147. Foxwood says:

    Sorry everyone… I’ve been in and out with the BBQ and have to tend to it. BBL

  148. SamHenry says:

    Sorry, uploaded the version of the above with part of the Service of Thanksgiving on it. Just cut it off.

  149. karmahd says:

    HI HO Captain Karma braved the high seas and drunk rednecks at the boat ramp and had a wonderful day on the Florida water!!

    SamHenry go0ooood to see you expressing your opinion, and nice to have you back!!

    VF, looks like we have a Muslim president!! This could be the start of the “End of Days” no not really but, where is that moderate Obama these days, did he LIE during the campaign?? YEP

  150. Foxwood says:

    This song originally was sung by Stephen Stills and Buffalo Springfield on the album Buffalo Springfield in 1967.

    Hope you enjoy. 🙂

  151. karmahd says:

    Everyone at dinner??

  152. Foxwood says:

    Hey Capn’ Karma, no 3 hour tour?

  153. karmahd says:

    Nope it was an 6 hour tour, I will post some pictures, did not take many today but it was a glorious day!!!

  154. Foxwood says:

    I was just checkin to see if you played the vid.

  155. karmahd says:

    My new picture looks like I have a melon head, wait I do have a melon head

  156. Foxwood says:

    I’m cooking dinner, been cookin since 11 this morning.

  157. karmahd says:

    OK off to the pool, check in later, I watched the Muppet vid Fox, you are the Dj of the day my man!!

  158. arlenearmy says:

    You look handsome. Are you gonna grow a beard ?

  159. SamHenry says:

    Hey, Karm – luck you at the boat ramp. I’ve been here on the blog talking too much and editing my Main Street video for iReport. Watch for it. Opening at a computer near you in about an hour.

  160. SamHenry says:

    Awesome vid, FOX. My very favorite muppet vid is “Put Down the Ducky.”

  161. karmahd says:

    I will be waiting with baited breath, I am off to eat some fish, Yipieeeee

  162. arlenearmy says:

    Thanks for the crash course about Jew/Israel connection to US. From your answer, I do get the gist that its “historic” or “tradition” for US to favor or side w/Israel.

    But this brings up another question I hope you or others can answer. I wonder what the big deal w/Jessie Jackson and Farrakhan not liking Jews. At least that’s what I heard on the news sometime ago. I don’t understand that connection.

    I dont want to have a follow-the-leader behavior. So I’m asking a question so that I can know what position to take on the matter.

  163. Foxwood says:

    I was just gonna say Karma’s gone to the dogs… 🙂

    Putttin down the duckie blues…..

  164. SamHenry says:

    I am not certain how Jessie Jackson got to his position but of course Louis Farrakhan – isn’t he head of the nation of Islam? Isn’t that an outgrowth of the Black Muslims that began with Elizah Muhammed? I guess he is part of a Muslim sect that does not like Jews. Who knows why. You know all of this hate stuff has got such emotional and blurred roots. After awhile, I think that people who are angry forget why they are angry. For the roots of the Black Muslim movement in the us, read a book I first read over 40 years ago: “The Black Muslims in America” by C. Eric Lincoln. As you might know, the old INFOADDICT was browsing at the college bookstore for some source material for a report and eyeballed it and exclaimed “Eureka.” Hey, one has to investigate what one does not know.

  165. SamHenry says:

    Yeah, FOX. Great music from a surprising little band and friends. I like out of the way places.

  166. Foxwood says:

    Sam, Karma… Back in the days of the Muppet Show, there was only one way to watch it. 🙂

  167. Foxwood says:

    I only have one vice anymore…

    Well two if you count the computer.

  168. SamHenry says:

    Well all I know is that Kermit should have got that old saying down: “You can’t teach a pig to sing. It frustrates you and annoys the pig.” Miss P has been annoyed ever since.

  169. SamHenry says:

    FOX, are you sure you want to be in confessional mode on a blog about the President?

  170. SamHenry says:

    It’s 6:50 edt – do we know where our President is?

  171. Foxwood says:

    Oh, I don’t do any of that illegal stuff anymore… I just have flashbacks.

  172. SamHenry says:

    So, FOX, flash us back to the election. There were no clear signs the Prez would go to the extremes he as gone, am I right? He was all for reform but he never got into the how, am I right?

  173. rosehips says:

    oh ohhhh karma showing skin? dang, did I miss you karma?

    foxy, I need a tip for bbqing chicken. I just am not all that good on the grill. Should I marinade the meat ahead? I need help fast my friend…

  174. SamHenry says:

    FOX – I only care that you are who you are now and I am sorry about the flashbacks. They must be hell.

  175. rosehips says:

    how you doing sam?

  176. SamHenry says:

    Terrible. I have been stuck at the computer for hours when the plan was to get me moving. I’m sure Arlene is fed up with trying to help me on that one. Are you in school to finish up on a degree?

  177. rosehips says:

    well, my son requested macaroni salad instead of potato salad which it’s really too late to make. So I better get going. I’ll check back to see if foxy has some tips for me. I am using a charcoal grill.

    I’ve got to pick some spinach too. bbs.

  178. rosehips says:

    no degree sam. just a certificate program. And there is no certification necessary for paralegals, so it’s really to have a leg up on the competition.

  179. Foxwood says:

    I’m cooking also Rose, sorry so late.
    I marinate the chicken before I cook, usually overnite. Don’t put the BBQ on till the chicken is almost done.

  180. Foxwood says:

    SH, the flashbacks aren’t so bad… Just remeberin the good old days… 🙂

  181. SamHenry says:

    I’m relieved, FOX. You deserve the very best. I’m nice to all good cooks. Can I upload a vid on your site?

  182. SamHenry says:

    Sorry, Rose, you told me that and I forgot. What a wonderful thing for you to get into. Imagine an anthropologist in the courtroom: Knows all the details and knows where all the bodies are buried.

  183. Foxwood says:

    You upload it the same way here, but with one exception, you have to add a ‘v’ to the URL
    see the ‘v’ in the link?

  184. Foxwood says:

    did I mention I’m having a flashback right now?
    number 9
    number 9
    number 9


  185. rosehips says:

    ok, the chicken is marinading and the macaroni is cooling, I need to go to the store for supplies. later!

  186. Foxwood says:

    Hey, Rose, I got a Jay bird to put on the grill. Damn thing was pecking my poor cat in the butt. I tried to teach him to fight back, but he just sits there and let’s it peck him. Not any more.

  187. Foxwood says:

    Well, if you don’t want it, can’t let it go to waste. Here kitty kitty kitty…

  188. Foxwood says:

    You’d think with a name like Mr. Meowgi, he’d be like kung fu kitty. I’m disappointed.

  189. SamHenry says:

    Cats have their own inner life unkown to other cats and to other animal life. My father brought home a stray cat he named Sam to get the mice in the kitchen. The mouse appeared. Sam was deposited into the kitch and the doors closed. Upon checking later, the mouse was running circles around Sam. Father grabbed a baseball bat and got the mouse. But we all loved Sam so we forgave him.

  190. samiam60 says:

    Hey that little mouse was fast.

  191. VF-Great Post this is what really makes me mad, totally Pisses me off with a capital P. Girl please help in doing everything you can and every one else by getting this imposter out of our LIVES! AND OUR COUNTRY

  192. SamHenry says:

    Hey, Other Sam. How’s the new job?

  193. SamHenry says:

    warrantonegirl – The first step will be the next VF post and etc. and then we have to Congressional elections – step 2. But I think this house of cards will fall down of its own weight. Meanwhile, how’s about I have a burger and fries waiting at the takeout window the next time you drive thru?

  194. SamHenry says:

    VF – it’s good to be back on the blog. I’ve been like a happy puppy today but I’ll calm down and listen to other voices. I’m about to go get comfy with some food and then bed. Stretch – head dip – yawn – recover – INFO.

  195. Foxwood says:

    Done cooking, got the bird, brought in the cat, cleaned my mess and took a bath. I gotta finish my article. I’ll check in later.

  196. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hey Foxwood, Thanks for the Jimi Hendrix info. Good evening everyone! I hope all is well!
    Here was another one of my favorite bands in the seventies and I loved this song.

  197. rosehips says:

    hey indy!
    I am only checkin’ in, got the chicken on the grill and gotta go work on the salad. Jonah made a Peace (peas) salad which is his latest obsession. It’s actually pretty good.

    Good to see you indy. Hope your birthday was good.


  198. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi Rose, my birthday was good because I spent it with all my blogger friends. The only problem was I drank too much JD and felt like shit the next day. LOL! Thanks for asking.

  199. Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
    Official: President said Palestinian state with holy city capital ‘in American interest’


    What scum.

  200. hey Indy, so the sour mashgot you? eh?

  201. rosehips says:

    wow, that is big news warranton. there is going to be a lot of debate, but personally I think it is good news. Finally, some justice for the Palestinian people. The news is bittersweet as I see this as very dangerous for the President. I hope he has added protection. He needs it.

  202. arlenearmy says:

    I just got this video from a youtube subscription, on the Arab /Muslim stuff, that I am still trying to absorb:

  203. rosehips says:

    arlene, who is that white guy in the vid? I’d be suspicious of a video like this.

  204. rosehips says:

    tell me those two girls weren’t meant to look like Sasha and Melia….

  205. karmahd says:

    Too much skin rose?? Well my skin is rosy, with tons of brown spots… Florida is closer to the sun, I look like a shoe. Off to my new job tomorrow, steady work I do hope this time!! Seee Ya’s

  206. hey, I know I’m late, but Karma I do love that cute little dog. smile.

    Arlene, thanks girl. I do wonder the exact implication of the vid? Do you have an opinion?

  207. SamHenry says:

    Just checking in before a late bedtime. I’ll bet Arlene is up??? Karm – cover yourself up! Show a little respect for the blog.

  208. karmahd says:

    I did not show any boob

  209. SamHenry says:

    Delightful. I so wanted to hear it from you directly 🙂

  210. SamHenry says:

    Now warrant – don’t you drive off without getting back to me on about say 10 issues by now, girl.

  211. karmahd says:

    OK I changed it just for you, no more skin

  212. SamHenry says:

    That’s true sacrifice for the benefit of the blog. I feel certain VF will be pleased and grateful.

  213. karmahd says:

    Now it is just my big ole mellon head!

  214. SamHenry says:

    That is one guuuuuuuud picture, Karm. It’s a keeper. Your work’s done. Permission to go ashore.

  215. karmahd says:

    Thanks SamHenry, I have one I took in the boat today I will use tomorrow, and I do have my shirt on!! Off to bed for me

  216. SamHenry says:

    Karm – how could you. I’m going to be up all night worried about GM and what Obama may say next and now I have to wonder what you will look like on the morrow? Avast!

  217. arlenearmy says:

    I was watching the movie – “The Day the Earth Stood Still”. I had not watched movies for weeks. But tonight I wanted to be entertained. That movie reminded me of the Matrix.

  218. SamHenry says:

    Sorry I missed your comment last night. I had gone to Fox’s blog to read his most recent and then shut down. It is a long time since I saw “The Day the Earth Stood Still.” Is that the old movie? I am embarrassed to say I have never seen the Maitrix but if you did and liked it, I will. Did you watch it on Netflix? I have a guest pass this month. I’ll watch and check back. I find some overlooked but sometimes neat movies on HuLu. Talk later. SH

  219. karmahd says:

    Hi ho hi ho off to work I go, s

  220. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning SamHenry!

    Hi Ho Karma!

  221. VotingFemale says:

    I can personally recommend watching the Matrix.
    But the series needs to be watched in order of release date as it is a serial.

    Will you take the Red Pill or the Blue Pill? lol

  222. SamHenry says:

    Hi, VF and Karm. VF – as a golf player, know that the LPGA will be in Rochester, NY north of my I think starting this weekend.

  223. SamHenry says:

    Thanks for the Matrix review and it looks as if I’ll be busy for awhile but not much to do with feet up and blood pressure pills. My pills are white. I’ll have to try which ever pill Alice in Wonderland would recommend. She did paint the roses red.

  224. VotingFemale says:

    The Red Pill lets you see just how deep the rabbit hole goes… lol

  225. VotingFemale says:

    Good info on the LPGA in Rochester, dear! Going to go watch??

  226. SamHenry says:

    OK so what does the other pill do….?

    I take the Prez has taken the red pill and knows more than we do. I can’t believe this:

    Corporate bond holders to get about 10% return (how will that impact this financial instrument)?
    Stock holders to get Zip
    Gov not to micromanage BUT will determine configuration of Board of Directors – hey the Prez’s people will be the 500 lb gorillas in the room.
    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad precidents all and we are falling into line like sheep.

  227. VotingFemale says:

    The Red Pill and the Blue Pill explained by Morpheus to Neo…

  228. SamHenry says:

    Why aren’t the GM workers laid off/fired demonstrating all over the place – all 20,000 of them this week. 11:55 we can hear the Prez on all of this. It will make us feel reassured and relaxed. The Gov should take over the entire pharm industry and make us some happy pills.

  229. VotingFemale says:

    Dear… the UAW is a major force in the Socialist Party was good for close to a million dollars or more in campaign contributions to Obama’s presidential campaign and the UAW instructs its members to vote Socialist. It is a puppet of the Socialist Party.

  230. VotingFemale says:

    It is not about the little guys… it is all about the big guys and power and money at the top of the Socialist Party and their dogs of war.

  231. rosehips says:

    sam, you and I might be just about the only people ever not to have seen the Matrix. I am planning to get around to that one of these days.

    karma, good luck at the new job!

    good morning vf, sam!

  232. SamHenry says:

    SPEECHLESS. Imagine the mind that created that. That’s all I could think about as I watched it transfixed. Makes Keiffer Sutherland look like Mary Poppins. Can’t wait to watch.

    RE LPGA and going to watch – finances this year preclude that. I’ll be back another year. Wegman’s brings us some wonderful things. The ultimate chocolate cake and chocolate chip cookies that is. Wonderful grocery store. I live there eating and reading their rack of trashy magazines.

  233. m2 says:

    Hi SamHenry! Good to see you!!!
    and Good morning to you, rosehips and VF…

    I’m being really disciplined and trying to knock out my work projects. That’s why I haven’t been on to chat recently!

  234. VotingFemale says:

    Morning Rosehips!

    The Matrix really needs to be watched the first time on DVD or VHS. It is so fast moving with so many scenes critical to understanding what is going on that one can repeat it.

    But then, with so much information about the Matrix series… many know a lot who have never see them.

  235. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning M2!

    (M2 took the Red Pill

  236. m2 says:

    I remember seeing the Matrix opening weekend, was it in 1999? I think I saw it on a Saturday… blew my mind apart.

  237. SamHenry says:

    Good point VF and goes a long way to explain current events at GM. I hope they send boatloads of union members over to China to make the cars.

    All that the unions thought the fought for gone in this economy. Try taking 2-4 weeks of earned vacation; try being out sick more than a couple of days; try taking maternity leave; try working overtime for time and a half and try digging your 401k out of the rabbit hole where it fell not only with the stock market and corporate pullback from contributions to same. We really deluded ourselves. Child labor anyone?

  238. rosehips says:

    The automakers dug their own graves by continuing the charade that big trucks and mini-vans that gobble oil are what Americans deserve. Americans chose to ignore the fact that those gas guzzlers are what helped our country to be dependent on oil rich countries. The stockholders just wanted to see their portfolios grow and bought into the hogwash.

  239. SamHenry says:

    Hi Rose and agent M2!

  240. m2 says:

    did you guys hear about the man who recommended we paint our roof tops white and all blacktop white? He is part of a “research group” looking for his cut of the stimulus. No body reported that except national review.

  241. SamHenry says:

    Right Rose – but that was the short sightedness of all of our “we need a quick return on profit now” corporations. The Russians used to have those 10 or so year plans. We don’t like to plan that far ahead. In fact, corporate farms probably don’t know what crops they will plant next year because to hell with crop rotation, they will put in what sells and kill the soil.

  242. rosehips says:

    hey m2! I’m impressed that you can remember the day you saw a movie 10 years ago! Of course I can tell you the day of the week of most of the government protests I’ve attended, even 30 years ago. I’ll just say they were all on a Saturday or a Sunday…pretty safe bet there. lol.

  243. VotingFemale says:

    Rose… you think the UAW had nothing to do with GM going down the tubes? $57@hour for an assembly line worker make sense to you?

    And oil helped make this country create the most successful economy the world has ever known.

    Oil = Energy

    Once cheap and plentiful

    I see Oil as a stepping stone to the next cheap and plentiful Energy Source..

    Horse and Buggy –> Automobile

    Oil –> Hydrogen

  244. m2 says:

    OMG it was 10 years ago. I didn’t even think like that.

    well going into film/tv /animation for my major, the matrix was a big deal to me!

  245. SamHenry says:

    Actually a good idea. All of Florida does it – and tropical areas. There are driveway materials that are lighter. Don’t get me going on news coverage. I have to read the overseas press to find out what is really happening here and even then things are rigged.

  246. rosehips says:

    m2, I saw the recommendation about painting roofs in the mainstream media. We all know that white deflects heat and it would probably help to keep your house cooler.

    My house is stays pretty cool in summer except when the temps climb into triple digits. We open windows at night to let all the cool air in and then shut them in the morning and cover the windows and it really helps a lot. If it gets too oppressive, there is always the basement. We don’t have an air conditioner. Don’t need it. I have fans when it gets really warm inside.

  247. VotingFemale says:

    And I will submit this…

    Obama likes Oil…

    Oil Money for his friends in the Middle East

    Taxes on Oil Companies

    Oil makes it possible to promote Global Warming Politicizing for Fun and Profit.

    Future Fed Gas Tax increases… weeeee

    Cap and Trade!

    Just as the Socialist capitalize on keeping folks as so-called “victims of rich white Conservatives, to be exploited for fun and profit by the Socialists,” Oil creates numerous Socialist Opportunities.

    I think the Socialists in power LOVE OIL!

  248. SamHenry says:

    m2 I envy you your movie making experiences. Living near the International Museum of Photography in Roch, I used to go there and watch the all time favorite black and white films newly restored. It was amazing. They could have been shot yesterday. I love film but don’t watch so much now.

  249. m2 says:

    I loved my major in art school.

    My history classes were History of Film and History of Photography! Doesn’t get much better than that, and NO math! Ha ha!!

    samhenry says: m2 I envy you your movie making experiences. Living near the International Museum of Photography in Roch, I used to go there and watch the all time favorite black and white films newly restored. It was amazing. They could have been shot yesterday. I love film but don’t watch so much now.

  250. rosehips says:

    vf, the uaw had a lot to do with the automakers downfall. I don’t agree with all the benefits they receive and the high pay. I think they need some protections against exploitative employers, but the unions got way too out of control, imo. I wouldn’t want to work on an assembly line, but who wouldn’t like a full pension after 30 years?

  251. m2 says:

    Those car companies weren’t car companies, they were “benefits pay-out companies”! Those workers don’t know the meaning of “exploitative”.. the car companies have been broken by the union for decades.

  252. m2 says:

    rt now I have to make some graphics like “hee haw” they say… and I’m watching hee haw on youtube… wow. I can’t believe ppl watched this show!

  253. SamHenry says:

    M2 Art Hist was my under grad major; English Lit and Lib and Info Science my graduate degrees. Do you see any math in all of this? LOL (now stands for lttle old lady)

    As for trauma Obama, can’t bring myself to hear one more soothing speech.

  254. rosehips says:

    vf, oil may have helped make this country great, but we are going to have to pay a heavy price now for our lack of foresight. Look at the wars we have waged to protect our oil supplies? In my neck of the woods, the Coulee Dam was said to help make America great, but as demonstrated in the “Ceremony of Tears” of the local Colville Tribes, a heavy price was paid when the salmon were prevented from swimming past the dam and the local indians fishing grounds were swamped. But marginalized citizens often pay the price in the name of progress.

  255. VotingFemale says:

    Rose, I agree people want and need security and comfort in retirement. But it has to be paid for in an economically supportable and feasible way…

    Companies are the engines of the economy… sources of work for people to live and retire.

    If a company is drained of the ability to be in business by a union… the union kills the company.

    It is fundamental Economics… this is not a perfect world… the days of the Garden of Eden are over… This is a sink or swim world… and that is reality.

  256. SamHenry says:

    That’s right Rose – we’ve marginalized the Native American population perhaps more than any other. No more. And the salmon are not only disappearing, like me, it’s not easy to use those fish ladders or whatever they are called.

  257. SamHenry says:

    VF -in the retail sector, are not the anti-trust laws applicable. In very authoritative ways short of owning other companies they dictate how the product will be made and how it will be shipped. They almost put Vlasic Pickles out of business warning them to keep the price of their lead item at the same level. They have put more small businesses out of business; gone into towns where they were not wante.

  258. VotingFemale says:

    M2, many people watched Hee Haw to laugh at it… and it’s oft times poking fun at itself by using a very narrow slice of society as a source of self-deprecation. Comedians have done that for centuries.

    Just as folks watched “All in the Family”

    Archie’s bigotry and bias was outrageous to the point it was the self-deprecation that made it funny and also the left winger bias was laughed at re: Meathead’s spouting all that liberal “Pinko” mumbo jumbo.

  259. rosehips says:

    So now that GM is bankrupt, do all those workers lose their pensions? I know if I slaved on an assembly line for 30 years, I’d be crying right about now if they took my retirement away from me. I’m all for people getting retirement, but not when they are 50 years old.

  260. VotingFemale says:

    For SamHenry…

    “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force.

    Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. -George Washington

  261. SamHenry says:

    When I worked as a librarian in the Main Branch of the Rochester Public Library, I had to be a member of the union. That was about 20 years ago. The unions had negotiated away pay levels and benefits with the City. So there we were all doing the same job but on different tiers depending on our hire date. I guess you could say the handwriting was on the wall. This depression has been in the making for at least that long in my opin.

  262. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good Morning everyone! I hope you all had a good weekend!

  263. rosehips says:

    I think I’d appreciate Hee Haw more now than back when it was popular.

    All in the Family was a really good show. It helped that we could laugh at the mentality of bigots like Archie. I think everyone knew someone like him. All the characters were funny and were people we could identify with. Meathead, Gloria, Edith, the Jeffersons…etc. what a great show!

  264. rosehips says:

    good morning indy!

  265. VotingFemale says:

    You think the auto workers are the only ones loosing something?

    What about people who bought GM bonds as an investment only to have their invested money reduced 80% in value in a twinkling of an eye?

    The UAW did not invest in GM bonds… yet they are handed 20% ownership and the people who put up money by buying GM bonds get no such thing.

  266. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Indy!

  267. SamHenry says:

    VF – re quote from George Washington: So do you believe that is why he could so readily lay aside his sword? I will keep that quote. It is wonderful.

  268. Indycoltsfan says:

    rose if you going back to tv of the seventies don’t forget JJ and Good Times. LOL!

  269. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good morning Vf! Just wondered if you check your e-mail lately?

  270. SamHenry says:

    I hate to leave for a morning filled with errands. I spend my mornings thinking of what I can either eliminate or postpone. I could have completed them by the time I reorganize.

    Nice to see you Indy

    Goodbye VF and all.

  271. VotingFemale says:

    Meathead spouting chapter and verse Socialist Snotty Bigoted Judgment Pinko-speak was also hilarious!

    Can you imagine All in the Family if it were contemporary and on air scripted in 2009 today with the Obama/Socialists running the government?

    OMG it would be outrageously successful.

    I can clearly see and hear it all in my mind’s eye and ear.

  272. rosehips says:

    I want to do an interview of my neighbor Shorty. Now there is a classic example of a hardworking American. He retired from a local industry and he works all day with his heavy machines. He is a little hunched over guy and he is seen all over town driving his machines to the fields. If I get the nerve up to do an interview, I will be able to document an example of the tenacity of the American spirit.

  273. VotingFemale says:

    See you later SamH!

  274. m2 says:

    well had to do a few things make a few phone calls, etc. Morning Indy!

    I have to jump off for the time being- bbl!

  275. rosehips says:

    indy, yeah JJ was good too. I also liked Welcome Back Kotter. That was hilarious. Let’s see what else? Mary Tyler Moore, Sanford and Sons, Chico and the Man, Maude….lots of good shows back then and we didn’t have cable or sattelite dishes. We were lucky to have color tv, lol.

  276. rosehips says:

    see you later sam and m2!

  277. VotingFemale says:

    Indy… I will go do that now dear!

  278. Indycoltsfan says:

    Rob Reiner is a BIG SOCIALIST LIB!

  279. rosehips says:

    vf, maybe you should work on a script for that contemporary sitcom…oh I’d love to see what you come up with!

  280. rosehips says:

    Carroll O’Connor was a socialist lib too before he died.

  281. VotingFemale says:

    U GOT MAIL, Indycf

  282. VotingFemale says:

    rose, if someone paid me to do it I would LOVE to be a script writer for the All in the Family – 2009 television show.

  283. VotingFemale says:

    perhaps we here as a core could actually create a youtube pilot of “All of the Family” 2009

    it would be a scream!!!!

  284. rosehips says:

    well, the metals market is hot now. People who invested in gold and silver are probably pretty happy right about now. It may still be profitable to invest now. The prices have been steadily increasing over the past couple weeks.

  285. rosehips says:

    well who can we cast as the modern day Archie and Edith?

  286. VotingFemale says:

    The Reverend Wright and Wanda Sykes…

    the 2009 Archie and Edith…

    With a white daughter-in-law tea partying conservative married to their son who is also conservative.

    I tell you it would be a scream!

  287. VotingFemale says:

    Gold and silver is a hedge against the Socialist created inflation that is going to flush the value of the dollar down the toilet…

  288. rosehips says:

    lol, vf…two great picks! The Rev and Wanda…now that would be hysterical.

  289. VotingFemale says:

    By the time Obama & Co and the Socialist Media has had their run… the American Economy and the Government will look like New Orleans after Katrina.

  290. rosehips says:

    maybe investing in trailer companies would be a good hedge as well.

  291. VotingFemale says:

    it would be so funny folks would pay a pay per view premium to watch it!

    rosehips says
    lol, vf…two great picks! The Rev and Wanda…now that would be hysterical.

  292. VotingFemale says:

    and I changed it around to a white conservative tea partying daughter-in-law married to their conservative son.

  293. VotingFemale says:

    but I think it would work better in re-retrospect for a daughter with a white husband… the dynamics would be funnier…

  294. Indycoltsfan says:

    Here’s what we can expect form the Obama justice department. check out link below.

  295. Foxwood says:

    Morning all… Morning Bonny Parker.
    Finished the article last nite. It’s not a pretty picture.


  296. rosehips says:

    vf, I think the mixed race conservative couple with a white male conservative and black woman conservative would be an absolute riot. Hey, let’s collaborate….I think we could make America wet its collective pants. lol

  297. rosehips says:

    hey foxy! I will check yours and indy’s links now.

  298. VotingFemale says:

    I think in the lull of conversation… I will go write this morning’s blogpost…

    The Hindenburg will play a role…

  299. Foxwood says:

    My head was swimming when I had gathered all of the info.

  300. Foxwood says:

    Just goes to show, Indy, that if you think correct thoughts, you’ll be safe.

  301. rosehips says:

    well, I don’t know why they dropped charges against those guys. Perhaps there are no witnesses who are willing to come forth to testify. It sure seems like they were blatantly breaking the law.

  302. Indycoltsfan says:

    Rose, It was clear voter intimidation without a doubt but that’s ok for the obama administration. Just remember It’ s all about winning for him and the ends justify the means. Expect that and more in 2012.

  303. Foxwood says:

    I couldn’t pass up a Meathead video.

  304. VotingFemale says:

    Fox… published just after the Elections in 2008…

    Check out the comments…

    At this juncture I support far right efforts to wake people up and slow down the Socialists as much and as long as possible though in 2008 I didn’t support the far right extremists. Yet extremism I think is ultimately self-defeating, left or right.

    An iReport I wrote about the Socialist Engineering of Economic Collapse via the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

    The formatting was whacked by iReport.com when they introduced software changes which disabled certain formatting features…


    Question Everything

    A Duty & Right of Free Americans

    Why Obama Would Let the Economy Collapse: The Cloward-Piven Strategy:

    “The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis.

    The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.”


    *above article authored by Jim Simpson.

    The Cloward-Piven Strategy exists… that is factual.

    Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22TheCloward-PivenStrategy%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    No Barack, We Did Not Go Away. ____________________________________:

    NOTE: Readers, dismissive Attitudes leaves you open to being blind-sided. . If you do not read what your opposition is thinking… do not blame anyone but yourself when you get blind-sided. .. I oppose Hard Core Right Wing Politics… I do read what is said by them.

    Just as I read Castro’s Blog. ..

    Pumas Unleashed is a Members of the Democratic Party Web Site who’s heads are not stuck in the sand.

    Stick your heads in the sand… turn off your radar …put your mind under lock and key.

    Dream the dreams of the closed-minded.

    Not my problem.

  305. VotingFemale says:

    And the first comment to the iReport shows the Liberal voter blinders of what they voted for…

    It is interesting to look back in hindsight?

    Ohhh… the fun of having the Liberals comments frozen in time… like a time capsule.

    Indy609 Indy609 // 6 months ago
    Report violation

    So let me get this straight, you’re making an amazingly inflammatory accusation about the President-Elect of the United States, and basing it on some article on some website, that doesn’t even identify its author, or cite a single reference for its supposed “facts”? You have a right to your opinion, but even the slightest sense of responsibility would be appreciated.

  306. Foxwood says:

    Wow… I don’t read iCrap, but they didn’t like you there, apparently.

  307. VotingFemale says:

    Another comment to that iReport

    America321 // 6 months ago

    VotingFemale, lets cut to the chase. What exactly do you want? All I have seen you do is put out unwarranted negative post about President Obama. It seems like your stance is about the continuation of the McCain~Palin character assasination of this man. If you cannot accecpt him as president and feel that this government is so corrupt then why do you remain in this country?

    VotingFemale // 6 months ago

    First of all the president of the United States is President George Bush.

    Got it?

    President-Elect Barack Obama will not be sworn in as President until January 20, 2009.

    Got it?

    I accept and respect the Office of the President of the United States.

    Got it?

    Where is it written that a president-elect or a president can not be questioned or discussed?

    There is something called the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

    Got it?

    You suppressive stance is not that of a believer and follower of the Constitution of the United States if all you can do is tell me to leave the country or be silent. IF that is your real attitude then I submit that you do not agree with nor support the Constitution of the United States… a document that President-Elect will Swear to Defend and Obey as part of his Oath of Office.

    I suggest you cease and desist from your anti-constitutional behavior towards those with whom you do not agree.

    RemPaulRev // 6 months ago


    First I’d like to say how much I like your ID icon. Secondly, I happened to find Voting Female’s blog a few days ago, and though I sense and can see that many that post to her reports do not like nor appreciate what she has to say, she however, does make a good case for finding the truth for yourself.

    The time of the Obama Rhetoric is over. Now is the time for the masses to start studying the person they voted in as president and prepare for his policies.

  308. Foxwood says:

    Rose, you need to Google Cloward-Piven and read Alinksy.

  309. Foxwood says:

    One of my favorite quotes, VF:
    “I am sick and tired of people who call you unpatriotic if you debate this administration’s policies. We are Americans and have the right to participate and debate any administration.” – Hillary Clinton

  310. Foxwood says:

    The only problem is, when I think of the quote, I hear fingernails on a chalkboard.

  311. VotingFemale says:

    The iSocialists at iCry HATE my ever lovin guts, dear! And even more so now that what I told them would happen and who Obama really was is happening and is being revealed.

    Foxwood // June 1, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Wow… I don’t read iCrap, but they didn’t like you there, apparently

  312. rosehips says:

    fox, I will not listen to the rhetoric repeated by the extreme right about Saul Alinski or Cloward-Piven. I read a lot of interpretation but very little direct citation of their “Strategy” Do you know where I can find the Nation article they wrote without having to pay for it?

    I have tried to get Alinski’s book from the library but it is not available. I think the right has mass hysteria and overexagerate Alinski’s influence. Barrack may have studied him and may have taught about him but do you have proof that he ascribes to his philosophies today? It’s all pure speculation and our enconomy going down is hardly proof that Obama is intentionally sabotaging it to realize some idealogue’s predictions or plan created decades ago. I think Obama has probably moved on from what he aspired to as an idealistic student. I had friends with Alinski’s book on their shelves but I don’t remember him having that much of a following in the 70’s and 80’s among my circle of activists and radicals in the movement. I think it is easy for imaginations to create false impressions of radical groups conspiring to take over society according to the divine Mr Alinski. I just don’t think it happened that way and I don’t think it is going to happen that way and I don’t think anyone in power is trying to make that happen.

  313. VotingFemale says:

    I forget which iReport I said it in… but I predicted Obama would be the worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party in it’s entire history… and will make Jimmy Carter look like a mosquito bite in comparison.

    I stand by that prediction…

  314. Indycoltsfan says:

    Vf refer to pw when you get a chance.

  315. VotingFemale says:

    Rose, I recall you saying Piven was one of your heros… lol

    ohhh… and shoot the messenger…

    What happened to New York City was a direct result of the application of the Cloward-Piven Strategy

    New York City went bankrupt as a result.

    rosehips // June 1, 2009 at 10:34 am

    fox, I will not listen to the rhetoric repeated by the extreme right about Saul Alinski or Cloward-Piven. I read a lot of interpretation but very little direct citation of their “Strategy” Do you know where I can find the Nation article they wrote without having to pay for it?

  316. Indycoltsfan says:

    VF I second your prediction. After Obama gets done screwing up this country you will be looking back at the Jimmy Carter days as the good old days.

  317. Foxwood says:

    I’m not going to run anyone else off, Rose.
    Ngh, ngh, ngh…
    That’s me biting my tongue.

  318. Foxwood says:

    I have alot of work ahead of me, Rose… 🙂

  319. rosehips says:

    vf, rudy tried to blame them for nyc’s downfall. I really think you need to find credible sources to show that it was a direct result of Cloward-Piven’s strategy. How did you determine this?

  320. rosehips says:

    yes, vf…Piven’s “Diet for a Small Planet” was profound and her book “Recipes for a Small Planet” was my bible. I challenge anyone to find fault with them.

  321. rosehips says:

    foxy, you can speak your mind with me but I must try not to speak mine too expressively because it won’t be nice. 😉

  322. VotingFemale says:

    so you are familiar with Cloward-Piven Strategy after all.

    Cloward and Piven are very proud of their work on that strategy, yet in the bright light of day rank and file socialists do not want it to be known… it would reveal the true nature of the Socialist Party.

    rosehips // June 1, 2009 at 10:42 am

    vf, rudy tried to blame them for nyc’s downfall. I really think you need to find credible sources to show that it was a direct result of Cloward-Piven’s strategy. How did you determine this?

  323. VotingFemale says:

    Rose… aside from personal attacks on commenters… you are free to “express” yourself dear!

    I just caution myself and others not to let anger lead to things said that would not otherwise be said when calm.

  324. VotingFemale says:

    And I will leave it to the Socialists to prove the New York Economic Collapse was not a result of the Socialist application of the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

    The conservatives don’t dream up crap like the Cloward-Piven Strategy… that is done by the Socialists and Marxists.

  325. Foxwood says:

    VF said;
    “I just caution myself and others not to let anger lead to things said that would not otherwise be said when calm.”

    I say things thinking I’m nice, and it doesn’t turn come out that way… That’s why I bit my tongue. If I think a little longer, I can make it look nice too.

  326. Foxwood says:

    Rose, if Obama, Cloward, and Piven have read and/or taught Alinski, why would they not believe it?

    Like Piven wrote your bible.

    Obama has already done many of the rules and strategies of both. Did you read my linked articles in my post to what Obama has already done? It’s not accidental or coincidental. It’s on purpose.

  327. VotingFemale says:

    Rose, that article was written by RALPH BLUMENTHAL

    …a known socialist working for a socialist news paper… the New York Times.

    Go find an article written in the “Neutral Point Of View” (NPOV) which supports your beliefs.

    BTW, NPOV is a fundamental Rule of Wiki Authoring…


  328. VotingFemale says:

    The edit trolling that was done on the Wiki iReport article was an example that Wiki Moderators whack iTrolls and reset their garbage….


  329. VotingFemale says:

    gotta run!

    Tee Time!!!!


    (it is cold this morning… had frost warnings last night)

  330. Foxwood says:


    Obama could not be so extremely stupid. It looks as though he did everything possible wrong. No one is this exceptionally inept. It is my belief he is intentionally hurting the economy. Each secondary effect was taken into account. They were not accidental, as there are to many policies adversely affecting the economy. Below are the policies I can come up with. I’m sure I missed a few.

    * Indoctrination of Socialism in schools. Capitalism is taught as evil.
    * Obama ups the TARP ante in the second installment by given money to larger banks ‘to start lending more to consumers’, but are told in back rooms to use the money to buy smaller banks.
    * * Secondary effect: Lending is not restored, making it difficult for small businesses to make payroll.
    * * Secondary effect: Mortgage holders that are paying on time are charged other fees to compensate for non-paying mortgage holders.
    * * Secondary effect: Same as above for credit cards.
    * * Secondary effect: Government owns the banks (it should be we the people, but even though it’s tax payer money. Government, not ‘we’ is the owner). They can now decide who gets a loan.
    * Shovel ready jobs are cut by cutting the defense budget.
    * Grants stimulus and omnibus packages and the budget. The costliest bills in history outspending all President together, putting our children and grand children in debt.
    * * Secondary effect: Increases the deficit by spending more than any other President combined.
    * * Secondary effect: No shovel ready jobs have developed yet. In fact, more jobs are being lost.
    * Borrowed money from other countries to the point they will no longer lend.
    * Printing money to make up for money that can’t be borrowed.
    * * Secondary effect: Devalues the dollar, so that you can’t buy as much with it.
    * * Secondary effect: All Americans have lost saving, stocks have dropped, IRAs, CDs, and 401Ks have devalued.
    * Is allowing companies to go bankrupt after wasting the stimulus/omnibus packages.
    * Continuing policies from the previous administration that causes unemployment. I.E. Spending, causing taxing of businesses, causing layoffs and price increases.
    * Passed stealth taxes that affect people under $250,000. This includes Cap and Trade, health insurance, CAFE standards, cigarette tax, and softdrink tax.
    * Micromanaging company policies (since they are now the owners) to insure they fail. Example: Firing CEOs, telling car companies to cut advertising and dropping dealerships.
    * * Secondary effect: Lose of jobs in dealerships, and manufacturing.
    * Dealerships fail and are stuck with the inventory at a lose.
    * Excoriates Auto CEOs causing secondary effects.
    * * Secondary effect: Nevada losing revenue over corporate meetings.
    * * Secondary effect: Other businesses see this and stop corporate meeting, causing hotel chains to lose jobs and income.
    * * Secondary effect: Jet companies losing revenue over non usage.
    * * Secondary effect: Other companies see this and stop jet usage, causing lose in jobs and income in jet industry.
    * Bypasses bankruptcy laws in favor of UAW gaining control of Chrysler.
    * * Secondary effect: Creditors of auto companies scared to use their Constitutional rights (5th Amendment) to get what’s theirs. Again, affecting credit nationwide.

  331. rosehips says:

    foxy, teaching a philosophy should be a practice in critical thinking and teachers don’t always espouse what they teach. A good teacher will invite students to analyze the work and challenge it.

  332. Foxwood says:

    I know your going to throw the school indoctrination out, but look at his quotes he’s made at the schools he’s visited. You can find them with Google.

  333. Foxwood says:

    Rose said:
    “foxy, teaching a philosophy should be a practice in critical thinking and teachers don’t always espouse what they teach. A good teacher will invite students to analyze the work and challenge it.”

    Good teachers do… we don’t have good teachers anymore. I have children and grandchildren. I have been to PTAs. My children have been to school in different parts of the country. They indoctrinate.

  334. rosehips says:

    foxy, I will need to end this conversation here. I did read your list of “policies” and to be nice, I avoided being critical. But I dismiss things that can’t be backed up with credible citations. Where did you hear that our schools teach that capitalism is evil???? C’mon. Show me one textbook that says that. When I read stuff like that, I don’t even want to read anymore. Sorry, but I just can’t get past that.

  335. Foxwood says:

    Obama says Capitalism is evil. He says it at the schools he visits. You have to get past his hypnotism to hear it.

  336. SamHenry says:

    I’m between errands. I have a lot of reading to do to catch up with you. Will do later – am out on additional errands – punishment. But here is a New Christy Minstrels tune in honor of GM and the wheels it lost today:

  337. Foxwood says:

    I’m just saying Rose, if you have money to invest, invest it in Vaseline. 🙂 Stock in that will go up.

  338. Foxwood says:

    Isn’t that Steve Duecy with the guitar on the right?

  339. Foxwood says:

    Obama on indoctrination in school:

    On March 19, 2009, Obama said, “We need young people… coming out of school, instead of wanting to be an investment banker, we need them to decide they want to be an engineer, want to be a scientist, they want to be a doctor or a teacher…”.

    On May 17, 2009, he said, “part of the problem, of course, lies in the imperfections of man — our selfishness, our pride, our stubbornness, our acquisitiveness, our insecurities, our egos… Too many of us view life only through the lens of immediate self-interest and crass materialism; in which the world is necessarily a zero-sum game. The strong too often dominate the weak, and too many of those with wealth and with power find all manner of justification for their own privilege in the face of poverty and injustice…”.

  340. SamHenry says:

    FOX – wish I could confirm. Eyes and memory both bad. Here’s a list of famous alumni:

    Some of the group’s most famous alumni include:

    * Kenny Rogers
    * The Byrds’ Gene Clark (d. 1991)
    * Kim Carnes
    * The Association’s Larry Ramos
    * Baxter Taylor (ex-The Wayfarers Trio)
    * Barry McGuire of Eve Of Destruction fame
    * Peggy Conolly
    * Karen Dugan
    * Gayle Caldwell (d. 2009)
    * Larry Gallagher[1]
    * Karen Gundersen
    * Ann White
    * Nick Woods (d. 1971)
    * Barry Kane
    * Karen Black
    * Keith Barbour
    * Terry Anne Meeuwsen, former Miss America
    * Thelma Camacho
    * Mike Settle
    * Terry Williams

  341. Foxwood says:

    Rose, it’s there. You refuse to look.

  342. rosehips says:

    This is from the Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/02/02/2009-02-02_fiscal_crisis_in_1975_taught_new_york_ha.html

    vf, I find it hard to disprove that the Cloward-Piven strategy is being followed if I can find no credible source that says it is. It’s all speculation really, unless an official comes out and says they are following the stategy or if minutes from board meetings record discussions about it. I assume the “facts” are speculation if no citations are forthcoming. I do find it amusing that you state something as a fact and when asked for a source put the burden of proof on the one questioning your statement of fact. I think if you say something is fact you should be willing to back it up.

  343. rosehips says:

    foxy, so you are saying that you can prove that our schools are teaching that capitalism is evil?

  344. Foxwood says:

    Kenny Rogers and the First Edition

  345. Foxwood says:

    Rose, I’m saying, my kids and grandkids have been to these schools.

  346. rosehips says:

    And what about these statements are so wrong? My god, we do need less bankers and more engineers and scientists. duh. people are too greedy and want too much. We need sacrifice now just like people in nyc needed it back in the 70’s. People want all our problems solved without sacrifice. Obama got it right on.

    foxy said: Obama on indoctrination in school:

    On March 19, 2009, Obama said, “We need young people… coming out of school, instead of wanting to be an investment banker, we need them to decide they want to be an engineer, want to be a scientist, they want to be a doctor or a teacher…”.

    On May 17, 2009, he said, “part of the problem, of course, lies in the imperfections of man — our selfishness, our pride, our stubbornness, our acquisitiveness, our insecurities, our egos… Too many of us view life only through the lens of immediate self-interest and crass materialism; in which the world is necessarily a zero-sum game. The strong too often dominate the weak, and too many of those with wealth and with power find all manner of justification for their own privilege in the face of poverty and injustice…”.

  347. Foxwood says:

    Got a book for you. Money, Greed, and God: Why Capitalism Is the Solution and Not the Problem by Jay W. Richards

  348. rosehips says:

    foxy, I think you need to get involved with those schools. Believe me, if that was taught in schools here, there would be holy hell from the locals. You gotta speak out if you don’t like what they teach. I really think you were exagerating about the evil capitalism teachings so I won’t press you further. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings by dismissing all your work.
    Let’s play a happy song….

  349. Foxwood says:

    Kenny sang Psychedelia before he did Country.

  350. Foxwood says:

    Did I not say I went to the PTAs?

  351. Foxwood says:

    Ok… we may stop and be happy…

    Your a work in progress.


  352. Foxwood says:

    So did you listen to Kenny?

  353. rosehips says:

    yes foxy you did. Does PTA help decide curriculum? I have been involved with PTA and I have gone to school board meetings. I think going to sb meetings and speaking your opinion has much more influence. I have turned whole boards around by standing up and voicing my opinion. It can be very powerful.
    Serving on a school board is better yet.

  354. Foxwood says:

    I tore my mind on the jagged sky
    what condition my condition is in…
    yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

  355. rosehips says:

    that’s an awsome song by Kenny! love it.

  356. Foxwood says:

    Doesn’t matter, my kids don’t believe in God. I’m working on my grandchildren tho. They like me.

  357. Foxwood says:

    I was waiting to hear what SH thought about it. 🙂

  358. rosehips says:

    The EPA came to our town (when I live north of here) and was testing for contamination from an historic lead/zinc smelter that operated 100 years ago. They were willing to test everywhere on school grounds but the school board initially unanimously agreed that they didn’t want them testing everywhere. I think they were afraid of what they might have found. I got up and said of course we should test everything. We have kids bouncing off walls with learning problems. We want to make sure our school is safe for them and is not contributing to our serious problems. I worked at the school and was respected.
    The board voted unanimously to allow the extended testing.

  359. Foxwood says:

    Not saying my kids don’t like me, just that the indoctrination worked on them. The best thing about grandkids is that you can spoil them rotten and send them back to mon and dad. 🙂

  360. Foxwood says:

    I would think the lead would have traveled some, but probably fell short because it’s so heavy. But it’s always best to check.

  361. Foxwood says:

    She did it to me VF. She got me off track…
    You can’t help but like the girl tho. 🙂

  362. Foxwood says:

    I got today and tomorrow off work and need to work on my new house. It’s not really new. It’s a hundred year old house, but very eccentric. Lot’s of repairs, tho. I’ll check back with you later Rose.

  363. rosehips says:

    see you later foxy!

  364. Foxwood says:

    yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
    what condition my condition is in…

  365. SamHenry says:

    FOX – “I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in….” I have always loved that song. A fine choice by a discriminating palette in food, drink and music. Off to get lunch out. If I don’t get lunch out, I won’t get outside. Bye until later to your and the Rose of the North West.

  366. Foxwood says:

    I just dropped in to see what condition the blog was in.

  367. Foxwood says:

    Obama has admitted today that GM would lose jobs. He said he was going to make or save 3 million jobs. So far, he hasn’t saved or made any jobs. He’s lost them… On purpose… Using Alinsky’s rules.

  368. Foxwood says:

    Worse yet… It wasn’t targeted to GM.

  369. Indycoltsfan says:

    Foxwood, I wonder how many GM dearlerships will be forced to close because they didn’t contribute to Obama’s campaign.

  370. Taini says:

    In addition to Alinsky and the Piven teachings, another person to research and be aware of is Stephen Flynn.

  371. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi Taini! How are you?

  372. Foxwood says:

    This isn’t a typical bankruptcy. The GM (and Chrysler) go bankrupt, but this is a special bankruptcy. All contracts are broken, except for the ones Obama wants them to keep (UAW). Then he coordinates the restructuring instead of letting bankruptcy court do this. We are practically in a Communist state.

  373. Foxwood says:

    Morning Taini.

  374. Foxwood says:

    I’ll research this Flynn. But I thought he wore green tights?

  375. Indycoltsfan says:

    The US already has a civilian national security force Obama. It’s called the the State and local police departments of all 50 states.

  376. Indycoltsfan says:

    The unions killed GM and Chrysler. You don’t see Toyota or Honda filing for bankruptcy do you. The unions don’t have to worry much right now because they have a friend in the white house that owes them a political payback. President Obama will keep GM, chrylser, and the unions afloat until at least 2012 with taxpayer money.

  377. Foxwood says:

    I’m reading on Flynn. The best we can do is vote Obama out when his time is up, but he’s stacking the deck. Today the news showed where he is allowing illegals and the dead to continue to vote.

  378. Foxwood says:

    If I die and they continue to let me vote, make sure they know I’m Conservative.

  379. ohiobelle says:

    Hey I hear there is a great Broadway play about black America in the early 1900s, with residents of a boardinghouse recalling their migration from the sharecropping farms of the South to the industrialized North. Anybody seen it?? lol

  380. Foxwood says:

    Indy, did you see the Kenny Rogers vid?

  381. Foxwood says:

    I’ll bite, Belle. No, tell me about it. 🙂

  382. ohiobelle says:

    ahh… I finally get a couple of minutes to myself and my daughter needs a ride across town!!!! ugh! I promise to return shortly.

    foxwood, that’s the play Obama went and saw last weekend in New York.. date night. lol
    It must be nice to just jump on Air Force One and fly out of state for a date….

  383. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi belle!

  384. Indycoltsfan says:

    Foxwood, I didn’t watch the kenny rogers video yet.

  385. Indycoltsfan says:

    Susan boyle may have lost the other night but she is going to come out of this contest a big winner down the road. check out link.

  386. arlenearmy says:

    I am very proud of Susan Boyle. In my eyes, she’s hero.

  387. Indycoltsfan says:

    Arlene , How are you? Susan Boyle will get the last laugh on the people that laughed at her and bood her.

  388. Foxwood says:

    Rush had this on today too. It’s depressing.

  389. Foxwood says:

    So are you a converted Kenny Rogers fan yet?

  390. karmahd says:

    Off topic but it it. My rhetorical question for the day.

  391. SamHenry says:

    SamHenry was here. All of the articles and vids have left me undone. I hope we can pull off a miracle in the Congressional elections 2010. So many were duped. Jefferson said that to maintain a democracy you had to had an educated electorate. We have not had that in ages. I was unaware that was a planned thing. It certainly has resulted in what is going on now. I’m not good at soliloquy so I will slink off tired with my tail between my legs and dinner in mind. Stretch – head drop – yawn – cower at a shadow – no recovery – agitated slink away.

  392. SamHenry says:

    I’ll leave the lights on ’cause now you have me afraid of the dark fog the country is in. Nite ALL

  393. karmahd says:

    Dear SamHenry.

    This is the way of politics, I believe it hits so much harder due to the effect that the new president has with words. Many promises were made during the stumping for the election, and at one time hope beat out hype. But alas where one was sold utopia it has become one mans ego quest.

    I do hope this changes, but my intellect tells me no, since we have not had a leader in this country for sometime, who that individual was is always up for debate and I will not foray into the choppy waters of political opinion when that task is left to history.

    The one byproduct of this let down is the realization that a sleeping giant has been stirred and is waking up grumpy, that giant is apathy, which if nurtured with truth will rise with clear mind and sure purpose. Truth is as a nation we have strayed from what we as a collective stand for, freedom from lies, greed, pandering, an undisciplined government who thinks we work for them. No longer will the collective allow leaders with a goal to dip there dirty hand in the pockets of our goods, but follow in due course with pragmatic and efficient policies and fiscal policy. The lie stops when the constituency takes responsibility for its actions, and is not sold a bill of goods that has a high price and a slow delivery.

    The voice of the people, let it be heard!

  394. SamHenry says:

    Thanks, Karm. This is my rebirthday. I called a good friend who had tried all through the election to talk some sense into me and she welcomed me back. Thanks for gently steering me toward my mooring. I am so afraid that the internet will become so easy to monitor and control that soon we will have to talk in code. This thing is all pervasive. Imagine, I now come from a country that prides itself on lack of education and puts people down if they have had one. The growing gap between rich and poor has been planned and the fall guys for all of this mess have been the Wall Street crooks. That’s why the SEC didn’t pick them up. I still have not done dinner so I will be loping toward some food – ears flying at my side relieved to have been returned to myself really. I am a bit liberal and pragmatic at times but beneath the surface I am a throwback to the 1950s.

  395. m2 says:

    I’ve been gone all day, and how fun it is to remember my friends fighting the good battles in the blogsphere!

  396. m2 says:

    La La La!!

    ha ha ha…

    looks like we posted simultaneously samhenry!

  397. m2 says:

    any be “good battles”, I mean battles for “truth” not irrelevant trite stuff!

    The truth shall set us free.

  398. m2 says:

    and be “good battles”, I mean battles for “truth” not irrelevant trite stuff!

    The truth shall set us free.

  399. m2 says:

    double post. whoops…

    and “be” should be “by”… sigh! maybe I should get off the net. Ha ha.

  400. SamHenry says:

    Something has been amiss all day with upload and refresh.

  401. SamHenry says:

    M2 – the Neil Diamond Hello was for you. Hello back at ya.

  402. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hello Everyone. Check out this link below.
    It’s about time!!!

  403. Foxwood says:

    Hello all! Hello Bonny Parker.

  404. rosehips says:

    Hey! yeah the tighter border is a real pain. I still don’t have my passport, so I am going to have wait to go to Canada.

    Foxy, who is bonny parker?

  405. Foxwood says:

    M2 is using Bonny Parker for her avatar…
    Bonny and Clyde…

    Actually it’s Fay Dunaway as Bonny

  406. m2 says:

    I am Bonny!! LOL!!

    my gravatar is constantly changing… I’m looking for something I like.. got to try different faces out.

    Hello foxwood, rose, indy, samhenry!

  407. m2 says:

    I saw this film in my History of Film class… lol!

  408. m2 says:

    rosehips, my friend just left to visit Alaska, and had to get passport and all the doodads just for that, border changes indeed!

  409. Indycoltsfan says:

    Sorry Rose, I forgot you live so close to Canada. I hope they don’t make it too difficult for you. My passport expired 5 years ago. I’ve got to get a new one.

  410. m2 says:

    I’ve only been to PARIS!

    that’s the extent of my travel outside USA.

  411. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good evening m2, How is elana feeling these days. Is she all over her illness?

  412. m2 says:

    Elena is a whiney butt… all I hear all day is “Mommy Mommy Mommy!” -she’s all healthy. We went for big walk in EP Tom Sawyer park today. That’s a park named for that Socialist Diane Sawyer… LOL… sorry I can’t help pokin’ the “socialist stick” where ever I can. LOL . I did lots of work, and all kinds of stuff. Good to get off the internet and focus on my work!

    I’m about to watch True Blood episode 4 here in a mo’.

    True Blood… vampires! My favorite!

  413. m2 says:

    oops, let me clarify, it’s named for Diane’s dad.

  414. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good m2! I am glad she is fine now!

  415. rosehips says:

    I’m making chili so I’m up and down. Actually chili is just about finished, making garlic bread right now. bbs.

  416. m2 says:

    ooh that sounds delish.

  417. m2 says:

    what are you up to indy? Got any plans tonight?

  418. Foxwood says:

    Your a vampire aficionado M2?

  419. m2 says:

    Sort of, I like to read fanstasy books. I’m what they call a dork, though most of us dorks call it “Fandom!”


    I read the Sookie Stackhouse series, so I had to check out the HBO rendition. I also like Underworld series (so does Indy here), and I read a lot of other vampire series… but I actually read a lot. Not just that stuff. I’ll read NYT books like Eat Pray Love and stuff, just to see what is considered popular, and I like biography- my latest favorite, The Duchess about Georgianna Duchess of Devonshire, LOVE it. And the movie was good too… she was part of the Whig party!

  420. m2 says:

    the deer jumping movie wouldn’t play for me indy…

  421. Foxwood says:

    Oh yeah, I remember the Dark Shadows comments. I’m into horror, but not the blood and gore stuff. I’ve read classic horror like Machen, Lovecraft, Poe. Jaws was a classic, because you didn’t see the shark. He was too mechanical looking, so they had to hide it and make use of psychological horror.

    Also a fan of the history channel.

  422. m2 says:

    if any body likes period pieces, or historical fiction or biography, the Duchess is an awesome book…
    and the movie came out in England last year, and in US last fall, so it’s on DVD. I’ve got mine on bluray 😉

  423. Foxwood says:

    Wouldn’t play for me either. I did see it on Fox, tho.

  424. rosehips says:

    I saw the Susan Boyle vid if that was the right one.

  425. m2 says:

    Yeah, History channel is good when their not playing Ice Road Truckers!

    We got History International as a preview this weekend, I liked that better than the regular History…

    True Blood is on! See you tomorrow!

  426. m2 says:

    sorry to not chat with you rose, I hope your chilly turns out tasty!

  427. rosehips says:

    The Duchess looks good m2. I like historical fiction but don’t read it very much. Two of my favorite books were Mary Stewart’s “The Crystal Cave” and the “Hollow Hills” which I guess really aren’t historical, more mythical I suppose. I loved “Birdsong” by Sebastian Faulks which I read last year but it has really stuck with me.

  428. rosehips says:

    see you m2! enjoy the show.

  429. Foxwood says:

    Getting ready for bed guys, later.

  430. SamHenry says:

    That’s OK FOX, I’ll get the lights. Lo cal unsweetened dreams. Nite again all

  431. Indycoltsfan says:

    m2, sorry the video wouldn’t play.

  432. karmahd says:

    Hey some great music, hello M2 Indy, Rose and Foxwood in random order. busy busy busy, Karma

  433. SamHenry says:

    Still up, Indy?

    Wanna watch some good, mindless TV?

  434. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi Karma and Sam!

  435. Indycoltsfan says:

    Here’s avideo for all the animal lovers out there.

  436. SamHenry says:

    OMG, just when I was going to watch some mindless TV in comes someone with a mind. Oh, well, I should say something deep like I wonder if Obama will miss his dog? I think he uses it like a prop – then again, so is his entire family vegetable garden and all. He fires 20,000 GM workers a day after flying Airforce Fun up to NYC for a night out. Hey, didn’t you tell those auto CEOs it was poor form to do that? Funny how rules are relative.

  437. SamHenry says:

    Good vid, Indy. The dogs and I loved it. Those beasts have ruined the beauty of my garden. The peonies have not yet blossomed. They are still tight furled little hard balls – just perfect for dogs to play with. I tell people the deer did. I don’t want them to know I don’t have any control. Poor Sarah Boyle. Now we learn she has a learning disability so it must have been overwhelming to her to go through all of this. Further, what person would want the press to know she had asked an older widower to marry her and that he had turned her down? I hope the producers of that show are taking better of her cat than they have her. All I learned from this is that Britain’s got Tactless up the wazoo.

  438. SamHenry says:

    Sorry, it’s Susan Boyle? Then it must be Boyle Obama.

  439. karmahd says:

    Sorry SamHenry I did not mean to omit you in the hello!

  440. rosehips says:

    karma, you are looking more like a banker today. How’d the new job go?

  441. karmahd says:

    It was pretty boring no computer Rose, so I sat for 9 hours and watched someone else work!! My ass is sore, it is so tiring watching someone work I would rather work my ass off than watch. I still have the dew mop did not shave it all?? How are you Rose, note going to bed soon.

  442. SamHenry says:

    Hey, Rose, I expect you to be up but Karm? Shouldn’t you be in the sack? I wasn’t worried that you had forgot me when saying your hellos – friends trust friends on that stuff. I have a young friend who rarely returns calls to anybody. When she apologizes I always say – Don’t worry, I don’t pay any attention to you. Her husband is a real character. He tries to scare everyone away with his hippy look. He thought he had nailed me when I first met him. Boy did this old girl show him. I just reached out to shake his hand, looked him straight in the eye and said Hello, Pete. I’ve seen it all. Hey I think I’m actually fading. Whoops, I just toppled over – no stretch, yawn, head drop , etc. I’ve fallen and I don’t care if I ever get up. Nite. Rose – would you catch the light and lock up?

  443. karmahd says:

    Night to both of you I do have to be up in 7, Rose you get the light, I will get the trash…

  444. SamHenry says:

    Karm, Karm, if you’re not going to get up at 6:00, pleeeeeeze turn off your alarm clock. We can hear it all the way up in New York. And remember, sound carries over the Canadian Border. Speaking of that, with portions of the border out West have
    NO guard at the gate – just a phone you use to phone in the fact that you are on your way, it may be faster to get over into Canada to drive from the Rainbow bridge etc here – west to the Dakotas to get over. We are probably training coyotes to sniff out illegals and chase them back. They will be supported by deodorant sniffing drones. You do know illegals wear “Ban” deodorant? Currently iReport does not have this important technology.

  445. SamHenry says:

    Apparently it is another day providing CNN.com to have a soft news lineup:

    Latest News

    * Suspect often protested slain doctor’s clinic
    * Navy targets missing money after pirate rescue
    * Families plead for U.S. reporters held in N. Korea 49 min
    * Judge’s ruling could reveal Gitmo secrets
    * Brazil court rules for N.J. dad in custody case
    * CNNMoney: Deals on GM cars? Not so much
    * O’Brien takes over ‘The Tonight Show’
    * Cheney: No link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11
    * WLKY: 18 hospitalized after zoo train derails
    * Beatles rock on in video game
    * Ticker: Obama hits back at ‘wrong’ Cheney
    * CIA names fallen officer 6 years after death
    * Susan Boyle reportedly checks into clinic
    * Money woes close century-old church Video
    * Get to the bottom of Bruno’s Eminem stunt Video
    * Copter snags men heading over dam Video
    * Denzel plays ‘normal guy’ in subway flick Video
    * iReport.com: African view on black America?
    * CNN Wire: Penguin poop aids scientists

    NOW THE FOX NEWS LINEUPof top news storieson the web. Note, no mention of Penguin poop aiding scientists; where is confirmation of this? And now for FOX:

    Sotomayor Debuts on Hill

    Court nominee enters informal but important private meetings with top senators who will ultimately vote on her
    • Sotomayor Good for Environment, Bad for Business?
    • Obama Talks Health Care Before Mideast Departure
    N. Korea Ready to Fire Several Missiles

    Nation reportedly preparing to launch 3 or 4 medium- range missiles, along with an ICBM, rattling the region
    • Reports: Kim Jong Il Names Son as Successor
    • Tentative Deal Struck on War Funding, Sources Say
    Pilots Spot ‘Fire on Ocean’ in Jet’s Path

    Officials investigating reports of ‘orange points’ in Atlantic where Air France plane carrying 228 vanished | PHOTOS

    News Happening Now
    * Obama Invites Iranian Officials to 4th of July Parties
    * Burris Relegated to Outcast Status on Capitol Hill
    * Another ‘Black Man Did It’ Hoax Sparks Outrage
    * Judge Orders Release of Gitmo Legal Documents
    – Detainees at Gitmo Compare America to Hitler
    * Army Says 79 Pakistani Captives Rescued
    * ‘Young Conservative Anthem’ Creates YouTube Buzz
    * Great-Uncle: Obama’s Nazi Camp Visit ‘Political’
    * Experts Warn of Dangers in Trial of 9/11 Mastermind

    * Bodies of 3 Brothers Found in Houston Lake
    * Pakistan Court Orders Release of Mumbai Suspect
    * Judge OKs Use of GM Bankruptcy Financing
    – Gov’t Role in GM Like Amtrak Route | FOX FORUM
    * Romney to Obama: Stop Apologizing to U.S. Critics
    * 22 Injured After Train Derails at Louisville Zoo
    * Judge Bans Bible from Pa. Kindergarten Show and Tell
    * Microsoft’s New Search Engine Puts Porn in Motion
    * Newborn Left in Motel Room Littered With Beer Cans

    * Vast Search of Atlantic Ocean for Air France Jet
    * Microsoft’s New Search Engine Puts Porn in Motion
    * Who Needs Jon? Kate Gosselin Herds All Eight Kids Alone – in a Bikini!
    * Bodies of 3 Brothers Found in Houston Lake
    * Recruiting Center Shooting Suspect Under FBI Investigation
    * Air France Jet Carrying 228 Vanishes Over Atlantic Ocean
    * Newborn Abandoned in Motel Room Littered With Beer Cans
    * Maxim Monday: Katie Cassidy Is No Daddy’s Girl.

    I wrote an iReport about this a while back:


    And a more general story on news coverage today:

  446. SamHenry says:

    Oh, yes, and I called Rick Sanchez on claiming that news was being made on his show:


  447. SamHenry says:

    VF – this is my version of a white house breifing or whatever you call it when staff bring the Prez up to date on news stories. Hope this is useful.

  448. rosehips says:

    good morning Sam and everyone. Coffee’s on!

  449. SamHenry says:

    I didn’t sleep well – asthma and need to fire up my sleep machine. I’m turning this into a health blog. How are you; how are studies?

  450. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good morning Rose and everyone!

  451. rosehips says:

    sorry to hear your sleep wasn’t good Sam.

    I’m good, studies have been minimal this term. It’s making for bad habits. I’m taking a 9 credit class that entails about 4-5 hours of work. I start my last lesson today. It’s on enforcement of orders and alternative dispute resolution. Next week is my final. Next term should be much more challenging. Thanks for asking.

  452. rosehips says:

    hey indy, how are you this morning?

  453. SamHenry says:

    I hope next term is fall term but a go-getter like you will push through. Just don’t burn out the light – the creative one especially. Say hello the son-the-hunk.

  454. SamHenry says:

    I had to take a couple of courses at Temple U to help me understand FDA regs; another course to help me understand the import and kinds of clinical trials leading to new drug approval. I was fascinated with the law. It is part of my math. I can’t do formulas, etc. All of this helped me understand Reg Affairs Personnel needs for data retrieval in the new correspondence tracking system I helped develop. I miss that too.

  455. rosehips says:

    El Salvadore elected a leftist yesterday. Hillary was there applauding in red. It looks like we will maintain close ties with them. This would not have been possible last year.

  456. SamHenry says:

    Have we ignored central and South America to produce this or have we bungled relations?

  457. SamHenry says:

    PS Rose, those courses at Temple were full fledged law courses. If I hadn’t had enough studies and if I weren’t at the age I was, I might have taken on the Law.

  458. rosehips says:

    next term is later this month Sam. No rest for the wicked. I am hesitant because my final for that term will be right after my return from my trip back East in August. Timings not so great. But I guess I will need to enroll anyway. I want to get this program completed by December so I can figure out what to do next.

  459. SamHenry says:

    Good plan to just finish the program if you are so close. If you have some time later, take a regular law course if you can or at least audit one. You will not only enjoy it; I know with a mind like yours, it is something you need to take on. Where in the East do you head?

  460. rosehips says:

    Sam, re: Central and South American relations. I don’t know how much our involvement mattered. It’s the way the world is leaning. Everyone hurts when America is hurting. The hungrier people are, the more likely they are to back a leftist, imo.

  461. rosehips says:

    I’ll be mostly in Selingsgrove, PA where my folks live. My mom turns 80 on Aug. 17, and it looks like we will have to whole immediate family there to celebrate. I have an aunt who is turning 80 the same week in NJ and we wanted to combine the celebration, but my mom doesn’t think my dad is up for the trip and she seems to think she can’t leave him in the care of anyone else. I am hoping to figure out something so we can attend the party in NJ. I also hope to go to the Jersey Shore to get some beach time in.

  462. rosehips says:

    ok, where is vf? VF you’ve been making yourself awfully scarce lately. Are you going to come out and play this morning?

  463. SamHenry says:

    I had to shut down and run ccleaner. Have been having difficulties with upload and refresh functions.

    VF, we need our early morning directions.

  464. rosehips says:

    anyone seen this? what a riot!

  465. SamHenry says:

    LOL I had read about this but had not seen the vid.

  466. SamHenry says:

    That will be a nice trip for you. I’m sorry you will be so far south of here. Had you been in western PA or in NY State, I could have met you for lunch. Another time; another place.

  467. SamHenry says:

    RH – I’m headed back to bed for a quick catchup session. See you later.

  468. rosehips says:

    sweet dreams Sam. I’m on coffee #2 now. Just getting started.

  469. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi again Rose!!! I am fine!!! I hope you are too!!! Where is VF this morning? She seems to be MIA again. LOL!

  470. rosehips says:

    Where is foxy?

  471. Foxwood says:

    Sorry I missed you SH, Morning Rose, Indy.

    I’m starting my green tea.

  472. rosehips says:

    hey there you are! green tea is good foxy.

    Has anybody seen this: “Why I left ireports.” ???

  473. rosehips says:

    btw, the chicken I bbq’d turned out great the other night. The marinade really did the trick. I had to finish them up in the broiler though cuz the coals died down too soon.

    I used an Australian ginger bbq sauce that was excellent.

  474. Foxwood says:

    I do green tea during the week and coffee on the weekends.

    I usually marinate overnite, but a quick way to get the marinade in the meat is with an injector.

  475. Indycoltsfan says:

    Rose, I saw it

  476. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi Foxwood! How are you today?

  477. rosehips says:

    hey m2!

    well, I got bored and posted an ireport lauding Michael Moore’s plan to convert GM plants and rehire laid off workers. You are all gonna love it! heehee

  478. m2 says:

    that old lard ass? Ha ha ha ha ha…

    I really do have to do some work while miss E is at PDO.

  479. Foxwood says:

    Indy, starting up a cold. If the green tea don’t do the trick, I’ll do a hot toddy next.

  480. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi m2, how are you?

  481. rosehips says:

    Here’s my ireport: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-266023

    I posted a pic of the Delta 88 I painted red, yellow and green. It was my rastamobile. lol.

  482. Foxwood says:

    M2 is Bonnie Parker aka Fay Dunaway 🙂

  483. m2 says:

    I’ve got to get crackin’ on my work for the day…

  484. Indycoltsfan says:

    see ya later m2!

  485. m2 says:

    dang! embedding disabled!

  486. rosehips says:

    love jeff buckley m2. his was a tragic death, but I guess he wanted to go….

  487. Foxwood says:

    M2, you shoulda got the photo of Bonnie welding a tommy gun and smokin a cigar for an avatar.

  488. rosehips says:

    well, it’s 60 degrees out. I better get out to the garden. see you all later!

  489. samhenry says:

    Beautiful m2. Just passing through. Hi FOX, Rose, Indy

  490. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi Sam!

  491. Foxwood says:

    An ex-Gitmo detainee has made an xbox game where you kill US soldiers to escape.

  492. Foxwood says:

    The video is on Rush.com, It’s a youtube video, so you should be able to find it there. I’m not going to post it.

  493. Foxwood says:

    Looking at the gravitar M2, Fay is still looking good. I wonder how many lifts she’s had tho?

  494. karmahd says:

    Good afternoon all, home for lunch, Karma

  495. Foxwood says:

    What’s for lunch, Karma?

  496. karmahd says:

    Fricken salad Fox!!!

  497. Foxwood says:

    Fricken salad is chicken fried salad, right? 🙂

  498. Foxwood says:

    Maybe that’s fried chicken salad.

  499. rosehips says:

    hey karma! just popping in to see what’s up. You live close to work?

  500. rosehips says:

    nice vid of the sunrise m2. I liked the music too.

  501. Foxwood says:

    Dedication to Karma

  502. Indycoltsfan says:

    Here ya go everyone read this.

  503. karmahd says:

    Yeah Rose 4 miles, and no it was a low cal piece of shit Fox, gotta run, see you all tonight I hope

  504. rosehips says:

    loved leo sayer foxy…
    listened to that while I checked on job openings on our local employment list. there are exactly 22 jobs available at the local unemployment office.
    Here’s a song for karma and for me…..

  505. rosehips says:

    see you later karma!

  506. rosehips says:

    ok, back outside for me…

  507. samhenry says:

    Hi everyone – Sam back – Fox, Indy, Rose, Karm, still here M2? Think you left.

    Karm what kind of job is it. All that watching.

    Just a quick pass of the blog. I need to listen to the music and then do some desk work here so that I can still live at this address. Wish I were as busy as all of you are. I have to stay low until the doc gives the OK however, I’m sneaking out this weekend to help my former furniture store with a big sale. One of their stores up in Rochester just closed and now this main one down here will probably dive. It’s a family owned-store for almost 100 years. Working there was just like being in a family. It was a great retirement job until they had to cut hours of operation. The 80 plus man who lives next door and is still the owner (his father founded it) had cancer in remission. I think the stress and worry have put him back on line. So sad. I am just the happiest of bloggers today spreading cheer everywhere. Well the Sun is out and I am happy again.

  508. samhenry says:

    Hummer just sold to a Chinese Company. Good news for FOX though an LA plant to remain open for a time:

    But a source identified the buyer as Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Company Ltd. in China.

    As part of the deal, some GM plants will continue to build the Hummer brand for the new owner, at least for awhile. The company said its Shreveport, La., plant will keep building Hummers for the new owner until at least 2010.

  509. Foxwood says:

    Tod is one of my favorites. A good ol’ Tulsa boy.

    Sorry about lunch Karma

    And I guess I could have played ‘You make me feel like dancing’, but I really didn’t do the disco thing unless some woman made me do it. I had to get plenty high to do it tho. I was always afraid I’d blow out the silk pants.

  510. Foxwood says:

    Looks like I won’t be buying a new hummer. I didn’t like the factory ones anyway. I always wanted a military one, but my GI buddy tells me the GIs get the best ones before they go on auction. 😦

  511. Foxwood says:

    Hey Indy, where’s Obama’s proof he’s saved any jobs. Because he’s the Messiah and he said so? Near as I can tell, he’s in the hole.

  512. Foxwood says:

    Not ranting at you Indy… Just ranting.

  513. Foxwood says:

    VF take the day off?

  514. Indycoltsfan says:

    Unfortunatly you will see more of this as the economy goes farther south into a deeper recession..

  515. Indycoltsfan says:

    It’s all propaganda ,smoke and mirrrors Foxwood.

  516. Foxwood says:

    You know the media will not argue facts with ‘The Big Gigantic Head’.

  517. Foxwood says:

    You know, the family might be able to get away with it. If the mother argues the fact that she has a story to tell like Sotomayor……. wait, she’s white, huh?

  518. Indycoltsfan says:

    I would encourage everybody to click on this link and read this story. In this world of shit we live in it’s good to know that goods things still happen for good people.

  519. Indycoltsfan says:

    Obama head is like a big gigantic black head on your back. squeeze it and a big waxy core comes out instead of any brains. LOL!

  520. LisaInTX says:

    Afternoon Everyone!! Just checking in to say HOWDY and to say how much I miss y’all.
    I haven’t had allot of time to post lately. Spring and Summer are my really busy month’s around here, plus my son will be home in a couple of days!! YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    Anyway, back to work for me, hope everyone is doing okay.

  521. Foxwood says:

    Hey Lisa,
    We missed you too.

  522. M2Elena says:

    Dear lawwwrrd that’s disgusting indy.

    indy says: Obama head is like a big gigantic black head on your back. squeeze it and a big waxy core comes out instead of any brains. LOL!

  523. m2 says:

    stoopid wordpress, signing me out…

  524. m2 says:

    I would have to say his head is rather tiny and pin like!

    foxwood says:
    You know the media will not argue facts with ‘The Big Gigantic Head’.

  525. m2 says:

    It’s 91 degrees out y’all… and I’m having a hard time doing anything other than wishing I was crouched in the corner of a room rocking back and forth like a Ukrainian orphan.


  526. SamHenry says:

    Just loping through. Maybe VF had another early tee off (is that the term?) as she had the other day. I hope she didn’t take one of those red Matrix pills this AM. OR perhaps she’s just out birdwatching.

  527. Foxwood says:

    I think of ‘3rd rock from the sun’ when I think of the ‘Big Gigantic Head’.

    “The big gigantic head is my father?”
    “That must mean you last name is head, Dick.”

  528. Indycoltsfan says:

    Hi everyone! Good afternoon! Lisa, It’s been a long time. Hello! I am sorry if I grossed you out with the blackhead comment m2. BTW, you’ve got mail.

  529. Indycoltsfan says:

    Where has belle been?

  530. m2 says:

    That was a great show. I heartie John Lithgow!

  531. rosehips says:

    well, vf has been known to disappear on occasion. Maybe the sun is shining where she lives and she is making “hay.”

    I made a rhubarb-honey sauce this morning and put it over angel food cake. yum.

  532. m2 says:

    yeh, where be belle!

    look now I’ve reverted to Pirate talk…
    Hey I just saw this on yorksnbeans blog,

  533. m2 says:

    that honey sauce sounds awesome… mmmmm!

    Well I took a day off yesterday for the most part, it was good to step away from the internet.

  534. rosehips says:

    belle needed to be productive and blogging was becoming too big a distraction. Some of us need to cut ourselves off or we get into ruts that make it hard to get out. I am going to go out and get some reading done. I’ll be back….

  535. SamHenry says:

    Happy news: SirJohn just got banned. That’s all I want to say about that.

  536. SamHenry says:

    m2 – the vid from yorks was superb. Hard to believe it is not from Saturday Night Live. In all seriousness, the earlier substandard tankers should be outlawed. I think they have double or greater number of hulls.

  537. SamHenry says:

    Clarification. The older substandard tankers should be outlawed. Not to do so is the perfect illustration of greed overcoming need. “I think they have double or greater number of hulls” should include the word at the end “now.”

  538. Indycoltsfan says:

    SirJohn was a nasty sob. I suspected he was a reborn banned reporter. I went on his blog yesterday and he was insulting everyone that didn’t agree with his point of view. I am not surprised he got whacked with the ban stick.

  539. SamHenry says:

    Well, Indy, he was just telling taller and taller pornographic tales. Now here is an elephant of a story – a kind of descent into silliness we need in these desperate times. The best line is the very last at the end of the vid.

  540. Indycoltsfan says:

    That was very good samhenry. LOL!

  541. SamHenry says:

    I have come across more internet pictures of Egyptian shop owners who have worked up images of Obama as King Tut.


    WELL, perhaps he should have saved a seat on Airforce Fun for Steve Martin:

  542. SamHenry says:

    Sorry – embedding disabled. UGH

  543. Foxwood says:

    That Tim Conway elephant story was the best thing he ever did. Carrol Burnett was the best clean comedy show.

  544. Foxwood says:

    Obama is going to invite Iran over for the 4th of July and now he says Iran has a legitimate need for nuclear energy.

  545. SamHenry says:

    Do you think the Iranians will bring rockets for the fireworks? A kind of host gift? May be the best display ever. We surely can’t afford them this year.

  546. Foxwood says:

    We’d have to decide which city we could afford to lose. Washington might not be such a bad place to see fireworks.

  547. Foxwood says:

    Let me clarify… I’m referring to DC, Rose… 🙂

  548. SamHenry says:

    Got to get out into the sun. It’s almost 4:00 pm EDT and I just need sun time. BYE FOX

  549. SamHenry says:

    PS I have just discovered that when we upload a vid that will not let you play it, put the cursor on the vid and right click. The firs choice in the popup box will let you go to YouTube to view it. When it has played, just go up to the tab and close it and you will land right back here – I promise.

  550. SamHenry says:

    I will delay my departure to report that the Prez is now on TV holding up Nancy Reagan and making her listen to a long lecture on how disagreements are good for the society and how they work so well. He has pulled out the Harvard grad goodness and charm. She looks really good. She quipped as he signed the bill “Oh, you’re a lefty.” You can say that again Nancy. He led her out of the room on his arm talking to her all the way no doubt saying “move it a little faster, Nancy, I have a plane to catch.”

  551. SamHenry says:

    If Art Laffer is going to dye his hair, he needs to darken the brows. What he and Cavuto are discussing is difference between Reagan and Obama views of health care. Laffer: “Obama wrong on Reagan’s policies. “

  552. SamHenry says:

    Laffer – and I hope I have this right – said that you don’t tax benefits – you don’t drag down a system that works to pay for something that does work. And he did say something I wish I could remember correctly the gist of which was since the dawn of American history everyone has wanted to help the poor – to help bring them up by getting help from the upper classes in taxes etc. However, there has never been a time when the aim was to bring down the higher classes to help the poor improve their situation.

  553. Foxwood says:

    Looks like GM and Chrysler will go the way of Amtrak. Government owned and non profitable. Amtrak has been owned and has not made money for 40 years.

  554. SamHenry says:

    I’m leaving from loneliness. All I’m doing is just sitting here the last one to put the head up skyward and let out a howl “Ahroooooooooooooo, VF, where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu? See you all tomorrow.

  555. hey everyone, as samhenry says, this is a drive by. I just wanted to spread the word about the post I did on our beloved arlenearmy. you know it really t’d me off to the post that ireporter lette123456789 did about arlene. So, to set the record straight I did a post of my own about arlenearmy. take care and I’ll try to check back later…


  556. funny fox very funny. i can hear it now, but don’t have time to really listen. woohoo!

  557. SamHenry says:

    Woops – on my way out for dinner and saw a typo or rather a “skippo” where I omitted a word. In my post about Laffer’s remarks I said:
    Laffer – and I hope I have this right – said that you don’t tax benefits – you don’t drag down a system that works to pay for something that does work.

    This should read “you don’t tax benerits; you don’t drag sown a system that works to pay for something (universal medicare) that DOES NOT work. Just a Warrantonegirl-type drive through. I’ve been holding this burger and fries for her for the longest time. They’re old and cold and so I guess I’ll eat them. She just drives and drives. I don’t think she stops to eat or sleep. Just my opinion. She would be great to get to know if she’d just slow down a minute.

  558. SamHenry says:

    I just saw all of the typos in what I just posted. I am in a hurry, that is one thing. But I am typing on a wireless keyboard that does not work and I am on my way to get another that does. OY! At least all of the words are in there.

  559. Foxwood says:

    Just saw on Bret Baier’s show, the missile on the N.Koren launch pad right now is a no-dong missile.

    I certainly hope it has no-dong.

  560. m2 says:

    WG! Thanks for the link to the post you created!!! Thanks!

  561. Foxwood says:

    Today was a slow day.

    M2, I just love the gravatar. It was a great movie and I love Fay.

  562. m2 says:

    yes, I have to rent that one and watch it again!

  563. Foxwood says:

    Bonnie And Clyde

    Bonnie and Clyde were pretty lookin’ people
    But I can tell you people They were the devil’s children,
    Bonnie and Clyde began their evil doin’
    One lazy afternoon down Savannah way,
    They robbed a store, and high-tailed outa that town
    Got clean away in a stolen car,
    And waited till the heat died down,
    Bonnie and Clyde advanced their reputation
    And made the graduation
    Into the banking business.
    “Reach for the sky” sweet-talking Clyde would holler
    As Bonnie loaded dollars in the dewlap bag,
    Now one brave man-he tried to take ’em alone
    They left him Iyin’ in a pool of blood,
    And laughed about it all the way home.
    Bonnie and Clyde got to be public enemy number one
    Running and hiding from ev’ry American lawman’s gun.
    They used to laugh about dyin’,
    But deep inside ’em they knew
    That pretty soon they’d be lyin’
    Beneath the ground together
    Pushing up daisies to welcome the sun
    And the morning dew.
    Acting upon reliable information
    A fed’ral deputation laid a deadly ambush.
    When Bonnie and Clyde came walking in the sunshine
    A half a dozen carbines opened up on them.
    Bonnie and Clyde, they lived a lot together
    And finally together they died,

  564. m2 says:


  565. rosehips says:

    hey, anyone home? I changed my avatar to reflect my inner self. Do you like it? It’s the manga character rose hip rose.

  566. SamHenry says:

    m2 – If you’re still up I think your current gravitar is just perfect. Keep it for awhile. It is sophisticated and strong and dramatic and interesting. But this is just an ole dawg talking. I wouldn’t change from SamHenry. He’s my love and his stablemate my JRT, Imp. I’m simple and simple minded what can I say.

    I just have one comment on today’s events. VF’s stable is about, what, 25 of us; iReport’s stable is thousands. As a member of both “tribes” all I can say is what one of my favorite iReporters once said: “I don’t see any national emergency anywhere.” And that’s the point. No matter what one person says about another, how the one and the other handle it makes all the difference in the world. My philosophy is: “abhor but ignore.” If it goes over the line on either side, then quietly take care of it. It is better for everybody but mostly for the principals. You know, this is summer, we need to shut off the computers and spend more time outside. Take it from someone recently diagnosed with high blood pressure, life is too precious to waste. Peace. SH

  567. SamHenry says:

    Well SH thinks it’s ethereal and nicely old fashioned – just like an anthropologist studying the law.

  568. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good evening everyone!

  569. SamHenry says:

    m2 – your comments on the situation well stated. Cool and to the point.

  570. SamHenry says:

    Hi Indy – did the rest of you head to the woods?

  571. Indycoltsfan says:

    Her ya go everyone. check this out, It’s only taxpayer money Joe. Why not waste it. right?


  572. SamHenry says:

    There’s no one more transparently transparent that old Joe. When he smiles, he figures the medicine will go down better. Here we are all recycling and Joe is accounting not for where funds are being spent but for the fact that they are being wasted. We want to know WHERE. If you don’t know that one, alternative administrative oversight should be considered.

  573. Indycoltsfan says:

    Samhenry, I’ll bet obama regrets the day he brought Joe Biden in on his ticket. Joe gives new meaning to the term loose cannon. LOL! At least Joe is giving out information that you will never hear from Obama. Joe is like a drunk that can’t keep his mouth shut. That has got to be driving Obama crazy. GOOD!

  574. LisaInTX says:

    I don’t know WHO Gilldreams thinks she fooling with her ‘victim play acting” after the HELL she has put most of us thru???
    I remember her VERY well and many of the hateful discriminating remarks that went with it!
    Here is another one that was quite the ‘spam artist”–he/she hit all my reports with this exact same bullshit. Very nice huh??

    NotJohnGault NotJohnGault // 7 months ago
    Report violation

    Lisaln – it is apparent from your posts and comments that you will not only be wrapped in the flagged you will be one of the sickos burning crosses and operating the ovens. May God have mercy on your sick twisted soul.

  575. SamHenry says:

    Hi, Lisa – sorry about your experience in the wars. I thought you were moving? Have you or is it in the future?

  576. SamHenry says:

    Indy I think you would be right about second thoughts about old Joe. I can’t believe what he says. He has not been put in charge of very much when you come right down to it. Certainly he’s not involved in international relations, thank Gooodness. He might step on a Saudi caftan instead of bow to it and reveal more of naked truth about the Saudis.

  577. LisaInTX says:

    You trying to get rid of me?? LOL

    I’ve been packing and fixing things around here.
    Waiting on my son to get back stateside today or tomorrow.

  578. LisaInTX says:

    Does VP Biden REALLY think so???? Oh, DUH????

    “We know some of this money is going to be wasted,” Biden said during a roundtable discussion in New York with business leaders aimed at promoting the two-year stimulus plan.

    The package was approved by the Democratic-led Congress in February over the objections of most Republicans, who were concerned about the potential for wasteful spending and because it will add billions of dollars to U.S. deficit spending.

    President Barack Obama placed Biden in charge of supervising implementation of the stimulus to underscore his promise of strict oversight of the package, which is aimed at creating or saving 3 million to 4 million jobs.

    Biden said transparency and accountability are key to the program’s success.

    YEAH!!!! And the TAX PAYERS were the FIRST on the DAMNED LIST to be scammed!!!! and Transparent as MUD!!! What a STUPID thing to say!!!!

    “There are going to be mistakes made,” said Biden. “Some people are being scammed already.”

    “Our credibility depends on transparency” for how taxpayers dollars are used, he added.

  579. SamHenry says:

    Does Biden know there are two sides to his mouth he could be speaking out of? Obama knows. But poor Biden is spewing it all out one side and getting his words all over everything.

  580. LisaInTX says:

    Well said SH. Biden is totally out there somewhere…between It’s Patriotic to pay more taxes and the bunker under his house.

  581. karmahd says:

    Wow, lots of drama, really what is the point of all this?? Why is it so important to some what we say on here, I guess it validates we have a point of view???

    Ireport is ruined by a few radical individuals that fail to take responsibility for there actions. It is not about topics, it is all about personal attacks, please stop it, too many are showing there asses to the world, did I miss something, most of us left due to the behavior of individuals who do not or are not interested in logical debate. Once a topic was brought up that any individual from the other point of view did not agree with, the attacks started, the belligerence escalated, and they took themselves out by there own actions!!

    It is so much easier to blame others, parrot weak arguments, play mean and spiteful games, of creating and outing personal information on a site that has viewership 10.000 times more than this site. The individuals who cannot debate and wish to dominate an argument are all here in there little clique on WordPress, we have our point of view here, they will not meet in the middle and this constant bullshit by deranged people to discredit a point of view, is truly sick!!

    Just go away, the problem will be solved, you continue to bring attention to the very thing you all appear to HATE, now that is just not stable healthy behavior, first to hate then to keep in the hate, then to come up with all sorts of schemes and plans to discredit?? SEEK HELP!

  582. karmahd says:

    That rant was a waste of time, sorry, I am off Karma

  583. SamHenry says:

    Lisa – I am afraid the current administration took away his bunker privileges and so he’s letting it out where the bunker is. There is nowhere to hide, Joe.

    Karm to the rescue! I tried to say that earlier:

    Karm – ? Why is it so important to some what we say on here.

    As I tried to indicate – there are 25 here; 10,000 at iReport. All those peeping Moms.

  584. karmahd says:

    SamHenry, It is beyond rational?? You don’t like what we have to say here, DON’T READ IT. How this is somehow twisted into there sick point of view is Sick Sick Sick, I am lucky I work full time and do not have the time for this pettiness. Last I will say on it, some are hurting themselves more than they are aware by this constant hate, get too close to the edge and you might fall.

  585. SamHenry says:

    We have bigger fish to fry. Did you see where the man who shot the men at the recruiting center had a computer that indicated that there is a nation-wide organized movement to carry out these kinds of actions. Why now?

  586. karmahd says:

    HMM no SH I did not see that, I think you will see a lot of low life come out of the slime over the next several years, and that goes for both sides, if you do not know who you are and what you stand for, you will fall for anything. I do hope in time and much reflection some might see that there personal strife is self created out of ignorance.

  587. SamHenry says:

    Lisa – Karm – Indy – M2 – Rose – whoever is around – I have to put groceries away, get Sam Henry in here from his outside job of watching and put the three of us in bed. That takes hours. See you on the morrow. Karm – the garbage and the light

  588. SamHenry says:

    Karm it just occurred to me that you and Sam Henry have very similar job descriptions – “watching.”

  589. karmahd says:

    Casual observer, is a hard place to find, but the view is wonderful SamHenry

  590. SamHenry says:

    AMEN, Karm – don’t forget the view of the garbage and the light switch. Nite

  591. karmahd says:

    Lights off, dogs fed, book open, night all.

  592. SamHenry says:

    Back up. Can’t sleep. So happy to be back on the blog with my buds. It reminds me of Paul Lynde in “Bye Bye Birdie” excited to be on the Ed Sullivan Show”

  593. SamHenry says:

    I guess we will be transitioning from this to the news tomorrow:

  594. SamHenry says:

    I thought there would be cultural shock being here until I remembered how easily I am assimilated:

  595. SamHenry says:

    For you who are much younger than Aunt SamHenry, Christa Ludwig in that last one was no mere Broadway Babe. She was perhaps among the last Century’s greatest Mezzo Sopranos. She frequented Wagner and Mahler more than Bernstein. She was easily assimilated. And now, I do have to say Bye Bye. Sing me off Ann Margaret (now there’s a B’way Babe).

  596. karmahd says:

    SamHenry, you was up late!! I am otu the door, see you all later tonight

  597. Foxwood says:

    Woke up to a break in last nite. Took my wallet. Called it my card. I have to get a new wallet. I attributed the noise last nite to the cats.

  598. Foxwood says:

    meant to say have to get a new drivers licence.

  599. LisaInTX says:

    Well said. We only pointed out their hateful behavior and they did all the work to get themselves banned.
    What PART of that do they NOT get???
    This latest “Drama” of Gilldreams is really pitiful.
    It was she that posted a link to a BOGUS non-commented UNKNOWN blog site in order to portray herself in a “victim role”. How ever did she ‘Find” that site???
    Besides her reports, it has also been pointed out to me that she posted this link on one of Numberdudes reports and also in a RoundTable meeting.
    HELLO….anyone listening??? Did it occur to anyone else besides several of us here, that maybe SHE created the thing in order to play HER Victim PART in this little DRAMA???

    I’d be all about asking her WHERE/WHO/HOW did she find out about that “finding a needle in a haystack’ type link on the internet!!
    And IF she really is innocent in this case, then Gill—maybe you should question the source of WHO sent the link to you. Maybe it was THAT person that created it in order to freak you out??? Some of the people you hang out with are the same ones that had MULTIPLE ID’S on Ireports that were hateful Itrolls and they DID play off BOTH sides. I remember it very well.

  600. LisaInTX says:

    Are you saying someone broke into your house and stole your wallet?

  601. LisaInTX says:

    Where the heck is VF??? We need a new report—this report is dragging slow in loading…..


    Hope everything is okay???? Her absence is beginning to worry me??

  602. VotingFemale says:

    I am here! Just catching up on the blogs… and email…

    no worries!!!

    Morning Lisa! Fox! Karma!

    man oh man do I have material for this morning’s blog post… omg

    I will catch up later with you all here… I have authoring work to do.

  603. Foxwood says:

    Yeah Lisa, I leave the stuff in my pockets in the kitchen by the back door, because that’s where the drive is. I hear noises last night and thought the cats were playing. 😦

  604. LisaInTX says:

    Dang Fox!!
    I’m glad you are okay!! That is the most important thing. Did they break in the door or a glass?

  605. LisaInTX says:

    VF!!!!!!!! There YOU ARE!!! YEAH!!!!

    Obama calling America a Muslim country now makes me wanna go PUKE!!!!!
    Or Sotomayer changing our Constitutional law of property rights over to those that DO NOT OWN IT, but want it, are only TWO of my latest rants!!!

  606. SamHenry says:

    ‘mornng Lisa, FOX –

    GEEZE FOX I’m glad you didn’t acost them.

  607. rosehips says:

    so glad to see vf back and can’t wait to see your new post, vf.

    hey lisa, miss you a lot.

    foxy, sorry bout the break-in. Did you have much cash in there? credit cards? that sucks!

  608. Foxwood says:

    I called in my card. Not much cash, but a small amount check is lost. Glass in door was broken. I thought the cats got on the counter and blew it off for the nite. Guess it’s time for an alarm.

  609. SamHenry says:

    Rose Hi. When I was a kid, my Dad bought a record made by a New York taxi driver who made up the songs. He had one titled: “I’ve got a rose between my toes from walking through the hothouse to you.”

  610. LisaInTX says:

    Morning Rose and SH.

  611. Foxwood says:

    Called police. I have to get a temp Drivers License so I can work. Don’t think much can be done, but to put in an alarm.

  612. LisaInTX says:

    Rose I like your new avatar. And I have missed you too.
    It’s raining outside so activities are inside til it clears up.

  613. rosehips says:

    if someone wanted to get into my house they would have an easy time of it. Just walk right in. no dogs to howl, no alarms to scare them away. I usually carry way too much cash. I have over $100 in my wallet right now. You could probably stay loaded on heroin all day and night with that.
    I just try to keep my karma clean and if I get ripped off, I try to unattach myself to what is lost.

  614. VotingFemale says:

    Lisa… don’t mind me… just did some “judicial comment filtering…” for strategic reasons 😉

  615. LisaInTX says:

    You can install a dead bolt that uses a key to unlock it inside and outside? That might help,
    but an alarm sounds like a good idea too.

  616. VotingFemale says:

    Morning SamHenry!

    ok back to the blogpost authoring salt mines again! lol

  617. LisaInTX says:

    LOL…I was wondering about that…hahahaa…okay…mum’s the word….

  618. rosehips says:

    funny song sam.

    lisa, I was just gonna ask why you are not out working. glad you get a little bit of a break. Now if only belle could join us….

    just playing around with avatars till I find the photo of me holding a giant beet. I love that pic but can’t seem to locate it. I took it to send to Tom Robbins after I read one of his books that featured beets. That guy is some wild man. I heard an interview with him once and I found I had so much in common with him that I was ready to stalk him until he acknowledged me. heehee

  619. rosehips says:

    lisa, is your boy in the states yet? You must be so excited!

  620. LisaInTX says:

    A book about beets. Really? lol….that is funny Rose. Is he cute?

  621. LisaInTX says:

    He hasn’t called here yet, but then again, the boy HAS been gone almost 6 mths…I figure they will surface from the bedroom late tonight!! lol

  622. rosehips says:

    Tom Robbins isn’t so cute as he is wild and whacky. Here’s a vid of him talking bout Tom Jefferson. Thought you’d appreciate it lisa:

  623. m2 says:

    Hi Y’all… I think the problem is their trolls, *cough* Jane, copy/paste anything they can get their clawed troll hands on and send it to touchy irrational people. So, Jane- Get a Life.

    Karma says: SamHenry, It is beyond rational?? You don’t like what we have to say here, DON’T READ IT.

  624. LisaInTX says:

    He’s kinda cute too and seems to be an intellect. That’s a great combo IMO. ;-]

    Still trying to picture a whole book about beets though. LOL

  625. LisaInTX says:

    Yes they worked it all out. All is fine now. :-]

  626. m2 says:

    lots of people on this morning!

  627. rosehips says:

    hey m2

    lisa, you may remember the book “Even Cowboys get the Blues” that was one of his classics. He is known for his wild antics and off the wall writing style. I don’t even remember the book that featured beets, but I don’t think the whole book revolved around beets. I’ll have to research. I can’t remember which book it was.

  628. SamHenry says:

    Tom Robbins in so right and so is Thomas Jeffersn.

    Rose I think you should call him up and ask that question. That is what I would do. Just lay it all out there for discussion. You might mention you like Thomas Jefferson. You have good taste.

  629. rosehips says:

    This from wiki:
    “Jitterbug Perfume is Tom Robbins’ fourth novel, published in 1984. The major themes of the book include the striving for immortality, the meaning behind the sense of smell, individual expression, self-reliance, sex, love, and religion. Beets and the god Pan figure prominently. The novel is a self-described epic, with four distinct storylines, one set in 8th century Bohemia and three others in modern day New Orleans, Seattle, and Paris.”

  630. rosehips says:

    that should read “Even Cowgirls Get the Blues”….

  631. LisaInTX says:

    You have mail.

  632. rosehips says:

    he lives in Wash state, but alas, on the west side….

  633. SamHenry says:

    RH previous remark to have been accompanied by LOL

    Robbins has been reading a little Proust with an overlay of Buddha’s teachings.

  634. m2 says:

    lisa, I don’t see any mail… boohooo 😦

  635. m2 says:

    Thanks sam henry for your comment about my gravatar! Did you see the one I had before this one, the crazy-eyed Elijah Wood… I thought that was funny… (he’s the guy in the Lord of the Rings movie that plays Frodo)…

    SH says: m2 – If you’re still up I think your current gravitar is just perfect. Keep it for awhile. It is sophisticated and strong and dramatic and interesting.

  636. SamHenry says:

    ‘morning M2.

  637. LisaInTX says:

    Those cowgirls got the blues because of those naughty cowboys. Been there, done that.
    Cried in a few beers back in the day over those rascals….

  638. SamHenry says:

    Obama’s speech in Cairo time tomorrow:

    6 EDT and Pacific.

  639. rosehips says:

    lisa, the book was crazy. It featured a gal with a giant thumb who hitchhiked.
    from wiki:
    Even Cowgirls Get the Blues tells the story of Sissy Hankshaw, a woman born with a mutation (she would not call it a defect) giving her enormously large thumbs. The novel is a transgressive romp, covering topics from homosexuality and free love to drug use and political rebellion to animal rights and body odor and religions. Sissy makes the most of her thumbs by becoming a hitchhiker. Her travels take her to New York, where she becomes a model for the Countess, a homosexual tycoon of feminine hygiene products, who introduces her to the man whom she will marry, a staid Mohawk named Julian Gitche. In her later travels she encounters, among many others, a sexually open cowgirl named Bonanza Jellybean and an itinerant escapee from the Japanese internment camps happily mislabeled “the Chink.” Robbins finally inserts himself into the novel as a character as well.

  640. m2 says:

    morning y’all! I might head out get a breakfast today…

  641. rosehips says:

    The book also features the “Rubber Rose Ranch” lol

    “As we know from the book’s title, as well as from the many “cowgirl interludes” that interrupt the books’ first two hundred pages, the Rubber Rose Ranch will be the locus of the book’s main action. The Rubber Rose Ranch begins as a beautifying retreat for women, a place they can rest, be massaged, and otherwise make themselves more enticing, presumably for their next marriage”

    ok, enough of that…

  642. LisaInTX says:

    Sounds like a great idea. I’m getting hungry myself. Been up since 5:30am…yuck….

  643. LisaInTX says:

    I swear they made a goofy movie about that….starring Uma Thurman…talk about GROSS!!!

  644. LisaInTX says:

    Angie Dickerson was even in it. LMAO…The oder they referred to was between their chap wearing legs —-it was GROSS!! I mean just GROSS!!
    Only watched like 30 minutes of it, but that was enough for me…

  645. LisaInTX says:

    Not sure if it was a satire spoof off the book or not, but that movie grossed out my husband too. LOL

  646. SamHenry says:

    Sorta Major should not be up on the Hill glad handing and talking too much.

    Most on the hill want to have a fall start when everyone will be back in own. Her onp\\\\\\\\\

  647. LisaInTX says:

    Hope I didn’t offend you Rose. The book was most likely very funny, but popping into that movie after it had already started–and having not read the book, we had no idea what it was about. LMAO…it was very shocking to say the least as we were not prepared for what unfolded…hahahaa

  648. SamHenry says:

    The wireless keyboard is acting up again. Last post I just dropped it on the floor!

  649. LisaInTX says:

    I have already emailed all our state reps to say NO to her confirmation. We do not need another radical non-following constitutionalist on the bench.

  650. SamHenry says:

    I hope she trips over her robes.

  651. rosehips says:

    lisa, no I’m not offended. I didn’t see the movie, but I’d like to. It didn’t get very good reviews.

    I think sotomayor will get the nod. It won’t change the balance of power on the Supreme Ct. Obama is replacing Souter with another left-leaning judge. No changes there. It doesn’t appear that the Republicans will block it. Status quo remains.

  652. LisaInTX says:

    In 2003 Bart Didden set out to build a CVS drugstore on property he owned in Port Chester, New York. Unfortunately, a developer hired by the town had other plans for Didden’s land. The developer wanted to put up a Walgreens drugstore on the same property, so he demanded that Didden either pay $800,000 to “make him go away” or pony up a 50 percent stake in the CVS. Didden refused.

    Just a day later, the Village of Port Chester condemned Didden’s land, which it planned to hand over to the developer. Didden sued, but last year the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ruled the condemnation was consistent with Kelo.

    “It took me years of hard work to buy that property, pay off my mortgages and really feel like I own it,” Didden said in a December press release issued by his attorneys at the Institute for Justice, a libertarian public interest law firm that frequently handles eminent domain cases.

    “Kelo did spark a massive public backlash,” says Institute for Justice attorney Dana Berliner, “but at the same time it emboldened local governments to further abuse of eminent domain for private purposes. And it emboldened courts to approve these abuses.”

  653. SamHenry says:

    If I use my TV clicker will this screen refresh faster?

    Lisa – that ruling was only a few years ago – right?

  654. rosehips says:

    well, I say ef all the developers wanting to build chainstore drugstores. yuck. My sister in law made a documentary about the closing of an establishment in south (I think) milwaukee, Oriental Drugs. The independents have all been put out of business by the bigbox drug companies. It’s a shame.

    lisa, why did they condemn the land?

  655. rosehips says:

    sam, do you refresh your browser after you submit? That speeds it up.

  656. LisaInTX says:

    Yeah in 2003 and the owner is still appealing it if I remember right. This is only one case, but it is happening all over the country.
    Another case not related to this, happened not long ago in AR….a guy wanted some land that a fellow horsebreeder friend of mine had, offered to buy it, she refused, next she knew “accidents” started happening around her place.
    Like poisoned water tanks, her tractor was sabotaged, sugar put in her gas tank on her truck, tires cut on her vehicles and trailers, fences cut and horse running down the road.

    Then the guy offered to buy her out again and she refused again and he told her she’d be sorry for not selling to him.
    Next, she was swarmed by the humane society and all her horses confiscated. She had legal fees out the butt, however she won most of the cases against her, but in the mean time, those that took her horses, gelded her stallions, caused the death of several of her older horses due to stress….it was a nightmare!!!
    She STILL has her land though and the bastard didn’t win.

  657. rosehips says:

    We used to have several independent drug stores in my town. Now all we have is Walmart, Safeway, Rosaurs (SuperOne) and one at the clinic.

  658. rosehips says:

    lisa, what a nightmare. I think that kind of vandalism is reprehensible. I would be fuming and looking for blood if that happened to me.

    I don’t know if you saw my comment but I read in the local paper that I guy I know (I actually know his wife a lot better) from my former community is charged with attempted murder. The article said it stemmed from a dispute over a gate and he went to his neighbors house, cut the telephone cord, shot out her door, shot the woman in the arm while she was hacking him with the blunt end of a hatchett. He’s in jail with bail set at $250,000. The guy has serious mental issues. I hear the woman is crazy too. Bad mix.

  659. LisaInTX says:

    Rose here is a bit more about her from the Clairmont Institute in CA.


  660. samhenry says:

    Alone on the blog again. I don’t generate a lot of interest. I may as well listen to a little music. I need to learn from a pro how to maintain interest:

  661. LisaInTX says:

    Dang Rose. I missed that one. I’m so sorry. It is upsetting when we know people personally that these terrible things happen too. It brings the horror to a personal level, not just a reporting level.

  662. LisaInTX says:

    LOL….you are VERY interesting.

  663. samhenry says:

    Lisa – I was out hunting down this version of the song I wanted to post and missed your story. It is just beyond description and isn’t typical he did it to a woman!

  664. LisaInTX says:

    Well the sun is out here now…gonna have to get myself to work.
    I enjoyed talking with y’all.
    see ya later

  665. LisaInTX says:

    Yep, exactly. A single mother raising a son and rare horses for a living.
    The guy was a total jerk.

  666. rosehips says:

    lisa, I read the article. I think she got it wrong on the firefighter case and I don’t think they gave enough info on the Didden case to have an opinion. Developers are sleazy and use the courts to bring their enemies down. If they paid the money, they’d probably have gotten off cheaper. geesh.

  667. rosehips says:

    Have you noticed how many high profile murders have been in AR in the last year? The Democratic chair, the news anchor, the recruiters the other day. I think there is something really scary going on there. What’s up with that?

    Sam, funny vid. Is that Glenn Close?

  668. rosehips says:

    have a great day lisa!

  669. samhenry says:

    Yes, RH, that is Glen Close from the musical rendering of the classic film “Sunset Boulevard.” Close can do just about anything. I left some music for you and Arlenearmy late last night in case either of you was up.

  670. LisaInTX says:

    Little Rock is KNOWN for its gangs….its bad there.
    I expect to see more of this type of stuff in the not too distant future.
    The latest was the new recruits fresh out of basic training, just got home and were hanging outside the recruiters station. My son did the exact same thing when he got back from training. This attack really upset me as those young people were unarmed and there was NO logical reason for the attack.

  671. LisaInTX says:

    Here is one story that does not seem to demonize African-Americans….the man is a killer of unarmed recruits, why profile his ‘color”.


  672. LisaInTX says:

    okay..I really gotta run. see ya later gators

  673. m2 says:

    hey check this out…
    I’m about to leave, but someone sent this to me in an email:

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before but had once failed an entire class.

    That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

    The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism. All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade, so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.

    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.

    The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.

    As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

    The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

    The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

    All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

    Can it be any simpler than that?

  674. LisaInTX says:

    GREAT EXAMPLE!!! Wonder if any of those Socialist wanna be’s will get it yet? I doubt it…most only want that free ride with no effort.

  675. rosehips says:

    well, I unfortunately must go too. I have a long list of things that need to get done. I’m sure I’ll check in and out. Have a good day all!

  676. Indycoltsfan says:

    Good Morning everyone!

  677. samhenry says:

    M2 I’m going to copy this and pin it to my refrigerator. Hi Indy.

  678. VotingFemale says:

    Ok… the new blogpost is published…

    lets move over there for faster comment reloads…


  679. Foxwood says:

    Has anyone seen the tapes of Abdula Al-Feces?
    The guy that wants to cross the Mexican boarder and use biological weapons.

  680. arlenearmy says:

    I have been looking for that video online.. but can not locate it. I’m doing online stuff before guest arrives.

  681. arlenearmy says:

    In response to the email you got… I think w/the Obama admin. our educational system is being dumb-down. Its like all the kids got to do is show up & they get an ‘A’; and the ones who excel will be punished & ridiculed because they hurt the feelings of the ones who failed.

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