ObamaCare will imprison you if you do not obey

This is what the Socialist Majority of Congress intend to do to you if you do not obey their mandates built into ObamaCare by the Apollo Alliance Authors of H.R. 3200 and its successor bills in Congress… such as the Baucus Version of ObamaCare.

Obey ObamaCare OR You will join them

Obey ObamaCare OR You will join them

Hat Tip to Frugal Cafe…

While I had read, some time ago, the provisions in H.R. 3200, aka ObamaCare, concerning the penalties for not having a current Health Insurance Policy, I was distracted from blogging about it with all the other things going on.

The most current version of both the Socialist Apollo Alliance written ObamaCare Bill,  and the Baucus Version of the Apollo Alliance’s created ObamaCare bill, both mandate having a current health insurance policy or else.

The ‘or else’ makes it a crime. An IRS crime punishable by an initial  $1,900 dollar fine payable directly to the IRS.

The “or else” or else is backed up by the IRS as well. If you do not pay that $1,900 dollar fine you are guilty of an additional crime… a crime punishable by a $25,0000 fine and up to one year in prison.

This is a sample of the power the Socialist Congressmen want you to give them with which to control your life.

Has the Fringe Media talked about this to you? Have they informed anyone about this?

No? Why Not? Answer: They are the Socialist Controlled Media… it is their job to assist the Socialist Politicians and Socialist Special Interest and Propaganda Groups: TIDES Foundation, Health Care for America NowACORN, Apollo Alliance, and SEIU. Click on any of their titles to see their websites.

The Socialists’ so-called ‘Grass Roots Organizations:’

The Socialist Underground Octopus

The Socialist Underground Network Reaching into Congress and the White House to Take over the US Government

These are the organizations the Socialists have been funding and using to gain enough power to get Obama and their gang of Socialist Congressmen into power.

They are hell bent on converting America in a Socialist Nation and doing away with Capitalism and the Free Market System which created the greatness of the United States.

This is about Power and Corruption. So why is Socialized Health Care so damn important to them? Simple… it is a means to give themselves the control they want over every single citizen.

The Socialists are Now Quite ANGRY… The Majority of Americans are not buying what they are selling.

The Socialists have been planning and working and waiting for many years to create the opportunity to take over the United States of America once and for all.

  • ObamaCare is the Front and Center Vehicle in which they must ride to do it… and there are other Vehicles they require as well.
  • Cap and Trade is another of the vehicles absolutely vital to the Socialist in their Assault on Capitalism and American Citizens. Control and Tax the citizen’s use of Energy in this Country and the Socialists have the citizens backed against a second wall.
  • Racial Division of Americans is the Third Vehicle the Socialists require to ride into total control of the United States.

The majority of Blacks in this country have, for decades been fed hatred with a stead diet of Black Liberation Theology, the basis of which is pure Marxism.

Reverend Jeremiah Wright is a full blown Black Liberation Theologist using Christianity as the primary means of spreading Hate-Based Marxism into the Black Population.

Black Liberation Theology is predicated on denouncing the United States (White People/Capitalism) as the Devil… and instill hatred against the White Population and Capitalism as the enemy of Black People to be defeated with Marxism as the Cure.

But… there are true Christian Minsters preaching against the evils of Socialism which works to instill blacks with Marxism:


The Socialists are not interested in any sort of leveling of the playing field for any race… Black, White, Asian, Latino, or any other race… nor any of the fringe minorities such as the Homosexual communities, nor women’s rights… nor are they interested in the causes of the anti-war crowd. These groups are unwitting means to a Socialist end.

This is why the Socialists work hard to split the country into as many opposing segments  as possible… divide and conquer.

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Gateway Pundit: Unreal– Obamacare Violators Will Face Up to One Year in Jail
Hot Air: New crime in HopeandChange Era? Failure to insure
U4Prez: Fines And Prison Await Those Who Refuse To Buy Mandatory Health Insurance
Sister Toldjah: Socialized healthcare and the “choice” lie
Politics 24/7: Those Who Refuse To Buy Mandatory Obamacare Face Fines And Prison and Is This Administration For Real? Welcome To The Mirror Universe.
Liberty Cap Press: A year in jail for not buying health insurance (and/or $25,000 fine)
DC Smell Publications: Buy Health Insurance Or Go To Jail 1 To 5 Years Plus $2.500 To $100.000 Fine
QandO: Criminalizing “Choice”
American Missive: ObamaCare: Insurance or Prison

Frugal Cafe: The Bigger Picture: Obama’s Average Monthly Approval Through August Dropping Every Month, Unemployment Rising and Jail-Time Mandate from Democrats: Prison, $25,000 Fines for Not Having Health Insurance

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227 Responses to ObamaCare will imprison you if you do not obey

  1. samiam60 says:

    Powerful VF, very powerful.
    This needs to get on Fox News!

  2. samiam60 says:

    Mr. Obama and all Liberal Democrats in Congress:

    What have you done to Our America?
    What have you done to Our Constitution?
    What have you done to “We The People”

    Have you not seen, have you not heard that the American People are a strong People and will not let you take from us the very Freedom we have fought so hard to preserve?

    We are a People of Faith in God.

    Why then to you continue to insist on Removing God from our Society?

    Do you not Fear even God?

    Have you not Seen, have you not Heard that Our God is an awesome God. Do you not think he will defend the People who love Him?

    Oh Vanity of Vanities. You have fallen prey to Power and Greed.

    We are coming for you and Our God will lead us in Truth and Righteousness. We are not afraid of your power for Our Power comes by Faith in the One who Created all things.

    Come to your senses and repent your evil deeds lest you find yourselves removed from the high offices you occupy. 2010 and 2012 are coming and your power and corruption shall end for all time.

    We are Americans and you have under estimated our Resolve.

  3. Foxwood says:

    I play with it almost everyday and didn’t know what it was called. If you would have said red, yellow and white RCA connectors, I know what RCA connectors are. That sounds like a piece of hardware you would need. I’ve never used one, and I’m sure it’s not cheep.

  4. VotingFemale says:

    It is sobering and very powerful information… the truth always is.

    samiam60 says

    Powerful VF, very powerful.
    This needs to get on Fox News!

  5. samiam60 says:

    No surprise there VF as this lying corrupt scumbag racist, Socialist Pig of a President is capable of anything and we have been here warning people about this now for months. Here are todays poll numbers which prove America is waking up!

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows
    that 30% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack
    Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly
    Disapprove giving Obama a Presid…ential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).

    Today is the first time in nearly three weeks that the Approval Index
    has fallen to negative double digits. Check out our review of last
    week’s key polls to see “What They Told Us.”

    The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number
    who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is
    updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter and Facebook.

    Overall, 48% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-one (51%) disapprove.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  6. Foxwood says:

    That is a scary post,VF. This one needs to be on Glenn Beck.

  7. samiam60 says:

    Obama’s address to congress gave him a slight bump in the polls but that is over now and reality is here so I expect to see the downward spiral continuing for months going forward.

    Do the right thing Obama: RESIGN

  8. Foxwood says:

    Thinking about it again, VF, it may be software you need. You record the disk then put in on your computer, you need a conversion program. From what the disk is recorded in to a .flv or mp4 format.

  9. samiam60 says:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Social-Security-strained-by-apf-161066651.html?x=0

    Social Security strained by early retirements

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Big job losses and a spike in early retirement claims from laid-off seniors will force Social Security to pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes the next two years, the first time that’s happened since the 1980s.

    AP – FILE – In this Feb. 11, 2005 file photo, trays of printed social security checks wait to be …

    The deficits — $10 billion in 2010 and $9 billion in 2011 — won’t affect payments to retirees because Social Security has accumulated surpluses from previous years totaling $2.5 trillion. But they will add to the overall federal deficit.

    Applications for retirement benefits are 23 percent higher than last year, while disability claims have risen by about 20 percent. Social Security officials had expected applications to increase from the growing number of baby boomers reaching retirement, but they didn’t expect the increase to be so large.

    What happened? The recession hit and many older workers suddenly found themselves laid off with no place to turn but Social Security.

    “A lot of people who in better times would have continued working are opting to retire,” said Alan J. Auerbach, an economics and law professor at the University of California, Berkeley. “If they were younger, we would call them unemployed.”

    Job losses are forcing more retirements even though an increasing number of older people want to keep working. Many can’t afford to retire, especially after the financial collapse demolished their nest eggs.

    Some have no choice.

    Marylyn Kish turns 62 in December, making her eligible for early benefits. She wants to put off applying for Social Security until she is at least 67 because the longer you wait, the larger your monthly check.

    But she first needs to find a job.

    Kish lives in tiny Concord Township in Lake County, Ohio, northeast of Cleveland. The region, like many others, has been hit hard by the recession.

    She was laid off about a year ago from her job as an office manager at an employment agency and now spends hours each morning scouring job sites on the Internet. Neither she nor her husband, Raymond, has health insurance.

    “I want to work,” she said. “I have a brain and I want to use it.”

    Kish is far from alone. The share of U.S. residents in their 60s either working or looking for work has climbed steadily since the mid-1990s, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This year, more than 55 percent of people age 60 to 64 are still in the labor force, compared with about 46 percent a decade ago.

    Kish said her husband already gets early benefits. She will have to apply, too, if she doesn’t soon find a job.

    “We won’t starve,” she said. “But I want more than that. I want to be able to do more than just pay my bills.”

    Nearly 2.2 million people applied for Social Security retirement benefits from start of the budget year in October through July, compared with just under 1.8 million in the same period last year.

    The increase in early retirements is hurting Social Security’s short-term finances, already strained from the loss of 6.9 million U.S. jobs. Social Security is funded through payroll taxes, which are down because of so many lost jobs.

    The Congressional Budget Office is projecting that Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes next year and in 2011, a first since the early 1980s, when Congress last overhauled Social Security.

    Social Security is projected to start generating surpluses again in 2012 before permanently returning to deficits in 2016 unless Congress acts again to shore up the program. Without a new fix, the $2.5 trillion in Social Security’s trust funds will be exhausted in 2037. Those funds have actually been spent over the years on other government programs. They are now represented by government bonds, or IOUs, that will have to be repaid as Social Security draws down its trust fund.

    President Barack Obama has said he would like to tackle Social Security next year.

    “The thing to keep in mind is that it’s unlikely we are going to pull out (of the recession) with a strong recovery,” said Kent Smetters, an associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School. “These deficits may last longer than a year or two.”

    About 43 million retirees and their dependents receive Social Security benefits. An additional 9.5 million receive disability benefits. The average monthly benefit for retirees is $1,100 while the average disability benefit is about $920.

    The recession is also fueling applications for disability benefits, said Stephen C. Goss, the Social Security Administration’s chief actuary. In a typical year, about 2.5 million people apply for disability benefits, including Supplemental Security Income. Applications are on pace to reach 3 million in the budget year that ends this month and even more are expected next year, Goss said.

    A lot of people who had been working despite their disabilities are applying for benefits after losing their jobs. “When there’s a bad recession and we lose 6 million jobs, people of all types are going to be part of that,” Goss said.

    Nancy Rhoades said she dreads applying for disability benefits because of her multiple sclerosis. Rhoades, who lives in Orange, Va., about 75 miles northwest of Richmond, said her illness is physically draining, but she takes pride in working and caring for herself.

    In June, however, her hours were cut in half — to just 10 a week — at a community services organization. She lost her health benefits, though she is able to buy insurance through work, for about $530 a month.

    “I’ve had to go into my retirement annuity for medical costs,” she said.

    Her husband, Wayne, turned 62 on Sunday, and has applied for early Social Security benefits. He still works part time.

    Nancy Rhoades is just 56, so she won’t be eligible for retirement benefits for six more years. She’s pretty confident she would qualify for disability benefits, but would rather work.

    “You don’t think of things like this happening to you,” she said. “You want to be in a position to work until retirement, and even after retirement.”

  10. Foxwood says:

    I’m plugging in one of my DVD to check the format.

  11. VotingFemale says:

    Thanks for your answers, Foxwood.
    I dont know if my laptop has rca inputs… will have to check the manual.

  12. VotingFemale says:

    I was hoping there was a converter that would change it to USB.

  13. Foxwood says:

    Ok… I’m finding there are different file types DVDs are recorded in. You need to make a recording and look at the DVD format, then if you wan it YouTube compatable, it has to be converted to MP4 or flv.

  14. VotingFemale says:

    I uploaded a .mpg file to youtube yesterday as a test… worked just fine.

    I had captured/converted a youtube vid to create the file… I uploaded.

    worked just fine.

  15. VotingFemale says:

    This is the video I uploaded. Since it was recorded directly from the FOX news television broadcast, there is no infringement issues with the person who put it on youtube…

  16. Foxwood says:

    I’m betting the software way of doing it would be free tho.

  17. Foxwood says:

    I hate seeds in my sour grapes.

  18. VotingFemale says:

    I would think the Microsoft Media Center software of windows would do the trick, Foxwood.

  19. VotingFemale says:

    Did ya’ll catch wind of the stink at NBC calling someone a Jew Boy???

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/25/nbc-to-anti-acorn-group-bite-me-jew-boy/

  20. Foxwood says:

    good bye
    my my
    don’t cry
    would you let it ride!

  21. Foxwood says:

    Oh, no!
    Liberals aren’t racists.

  22. Foxwood says:

    The group got together at one of the members girlfriends house. This was before they had a name for the band. One of the guys was looking through the girlfriends sex toy magazines and one toy stood out. The Steely Dan.

  23. Foxwood says:

    Did you get your mail, VF?

  24. Foxwood says:

    If Obamacare passes it will be a Bad Moon Rising.

  25. Foxwood says:

    Made popular by Eric Clapner (Josolin Elders way of saying Eric Clapton) but written by Okie Boy JJ Cale.

  26. Foxwood says:

    One of my all time fav instrumentals…

  27. VotingFemale says:

    just replied to your email, Fox! ;)

  28. Foxwood says:

    It should be a good starter for one of the songs you had on the blog Friday.

  29. Foxwood says:

    From the Tennessee Ernie Ford Show.

  30. Foxwood says:

    Now a little somethin’ from “Eazy Rider” on K-F0x…

  31. Foxwood says:

    From the Ed Sullivan show…
    Light My Fire.
    Jim Morison was asked to change the lyric’s to not have a drug meaning and the Doors said OK.

    When they sang the song, on the second go round, Jim screamed “HIGHER!”

    The Doors were never asked to come back.

  32. Foxwood says:

    The original song by the Stones is called “Let’s Spend the Night Together”, But Ed Sullivan asked to change the name of the song…

    Let’s Spend Some Time Together

  33. Foxwood says:

    Wild thing!
    You make my balls swing!

  34. Foxwood says:

    And now on K-Fox, a little somethin’ fo the ladies.

    I luv Lulu!

  35. arlenearmy says:

    cf
    I saw that article on Big Government … the jew boy comment. Im still trying to figure out who sent it & who the comment was directed at.

  36. samiam60 says:

    Oh and the FRINGE MEDIA CNN IS REPORTING A STORY THIS WAY:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/27/clinton.conspiracy/index.html

    Bill Clinton: ‘Vast right-wing conspiracy’ as ‘virulent’ as ever

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — The “vast right-wing conspiracy” that attacked him during his presidency has been weakened, but continues to operate against President Obama, former President Clinton said Sunday.

    Former President Clinton said Republicans won’t see a 1994-like surge at the polls in 2010.

    On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Clinton was asked about the term his wife Hillary Clinton, now secretary of state, famously coined. “Is it still there?” host David Gregory asked.

    “Oh, you bet. Sure it is. It’s not as strong as it was, because America’s changed demographically, but it’s as virulent as it was,” the former president replied.

    “I mean, they’re saying things about him [Obama] — you know, it’s like when they accused me of murder and all that stuff they did,” Clinton said, in an apparent reference to conspiracy theories surrounding the suicide of White House deputy counsel Vince Foster.

    “It’s not really good for the Republicans and the country, what’s going on now,” Clinton said. “I mean, they may be hurting President Obama. They can take his numbers down, they can run his opposition up. But fundamentally, he and his team have a positive agenda for America.”

    The nation needs “a credible debate about what’s the right balance between continuing to expand the economy through stimulus and beginning to move back to fiscal balance,” Clinton said. “We need a credible debate about what’s the best way to get to universal [health care] coverage.”

    Clinton was asked whether he is concerned that the 2010 midterm elections could resemble those of 1994, when Republicans took control of the House and Senate two years into his first term.
    “There’s no way” that could happen, Clinton said, adding that “the country is more diverse and more interested in positive action.” Also, he said, Republicans had control of Congress for several years under President George W. Bush, “and they know the results were bad.”

    And, he said, “the Democrats haven’t taken on the gun lobby like I did.”
    “Whatever happens, it’ll be manageable for our president,” Clinton

  37. arlenearmy says:

    This woman says that she’s not GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE! And she aint gonna apologize & aint gonna put up w/being put down cause she’s white. I wish more would have guts like this fine young lady.

  38. samiam60 says:

    Great Video Arlene but unfortunately this woman will most likely be charged with a hate crime now that she has posted the video.

    That’s the Tragedy in America today.

  39. samiam60 says:

    “It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government”
    Thomas Paine

  40. VotingFemale says:

    The Product of Socialist Hatred Indoctrination…

    The Socialists have done a job on folks.

    The intent of the RACEer in this video is offense to evoke a response of hatred in return.

    This moron is as brain dead as a person who has been indoctrinated by the Islamic Terrorists to hate Infidels… the puppets of Osama bin Laden compared to the puppets of Socialism.

  41. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Evening my friends and fellow patriots. Another example of indoctrination.

  42. tellitlikeitis says:

    Vf, What a fine example of black racism. This guy is obviously hates this country. Maybe he would be happier if were to go back to mother Africa. I am white and it’s not my fault that African – Americans make up 13 percdent of the population. White people are still in the majority in this country. It is not my fault and I will not apologize for that. I want all people to succeed here. I do not want anyone to be held back for any reason. He hates people for their skin color and nothing else.

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  46. samiam60 says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/27/liberals-seek-health-care-access-illegals/

    Liberals Seek Health Care Access for Illegals
    A group of House Democrats say it’s unfair to bar illegal immigrants from paying their own way in a government-sponsored exchange

    Fearful that they’re losing ground on immigration and health care, a group of House Democrats is pushing back and arguing that any health care bill should extend to all legal immigrants and allow illegal immigrants some access, The Washington Times reported on Monday.

    The Democrats, trying to stiffen their party’s spines on the contentious issue, say it’s unfair to bar illegal immigrants from paying their own way in a government-sponsored exchange. Legal immigrants, they say, regardless of how long they’ve been in the United States, should be able to get government-subsidized health care if they meet the other eligibility requirements.

    “Legal permanent residents should be able to purchase their plans, and they should also be eligible for subsidies if they need it. Undocumented, if they can afford it, should be able to buy their own private plans. It keeps them out of the emergency room,” said Rep. Michael M. Honda, California Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus.

    Honda was joined by more than 20 of his colleagues in two letters laying out the demands.

    Coverage for immigrants is one of the thorniest issues in the health care debate, and one many Democratic leaders would like to avoid. But immigrant rights groups and the Democrats who sent the letters say they have to take a stand now.

  47. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning my Fellow Patriots :)

  48. samiam60 says:

    Just like Hitler before him:

    Obama Will Go to Copenhagen, Denmark on Friday to Pitch 2016 Olympics in Chicago

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  50. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Samiam! And SamHenry who is up and about over at the Friends blog!

  51. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning VF, looks like the Demander in Chief is going to Denmark on our Tax Payer Dime to Campaign for Chicago getting to host the Olympics in 2016.

  52. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning SamHenry :)

  53. Foxwood says:

    I’m slow with the cannon this morning, so
    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  54. Foxwood says:

    “looks like the Demander in Chief is going to Denmark on our Tax Payer Dime to Campaign for Chicago getting to host the Olympics in 2016.”

    We know what our priorities are, Sami.

    Morning Sam and Sam and VF!

  55. VotingFemale says:

    Morning Foxwood!

    I have to run, yaw’ll… obligations outside the house today but will be back later this afternoon. Fight the good fight!

  56. m2 says:

    I’m baaaaa–aaack!

    Words cannot describe how substantive and TRUE this blog post is.

    Bravo.

  57. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning M2 and welcome back to the Future

  58. Foxwood says:

    Flux Capacitor…. fluxing…

  59. Foxwood says:

    I’m so glad to know our President is trying so hard to get the Olympics in Chicago. It sure will help us forget all that nonsense of Iran shooting off missiles.

  60. samiam60 says:

    Obama Heading to Denmark in Olympic Appeal
    President Obama will be the first U.S. president to take on such a direct role in lobbying for an Olympics event.

  61. samiam60 says:

    Obama trying to repay his debt to all the crooks in Chicago by going with our tax dollars to Denmark to lobby for having the olympic’s Chicago.

    Iran and N. Korea can wait as far as this Resident in Chief thinks.

  62. Kynikos says:

    Fox, M2 Samiam, morning, VF pick me up some milk and watch out for stray Moose’s, Obama, can hire all the out of work ACORN workers for the Olympics, which he will get to watch from his home in Chicago…

  63. Kynikos says:

    Samiam it is Resident in Theif

  64. Kynikos says:

    gotta go at work!!

  65. Foxwood says:

    I took the week off Kinky. But I’m still working… on the house.

  66. samiam60 says:

    Looks like the ‘change we can believe in’ has been, well, predictable. And then some. Tax cheats, secret meetings, shady alliances. Those that voted for Obama should now be recovering from the ether. They must be made to realize that all the conservative concerns during the election (Ayers, Wright, elitist associations, shady associations, questionable statements, playing the race card, etc.) are ‘coming home to roost’. He is like the parent who wants to be a friend instead of a PARENT. We need a PRESIDENT who can GOVERN; not a Professor/TV Personality who is trying to be cool enough so that all will praise “Him”.

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  68. samiam60 says:

    These are the same liberals that kill babies but protect the life on a stupid fish…i.e in the California’s valley.

  69. samiam60 says:

    Bank of America Pulls Back From ACORN Work
    In response to questions from The Wall Street Journal, a spokesman for the banking company said it has “suspended current commitments” to ACORN Housing, an affiliated group, and “will not enter into any further agreements with ACORN or any of its affiliates,” pending assessments by the bank of the organization’s operations.

  70. Foxwood says:

    Hillary Clinton’s 3:00am phone call ads have been scrubbed from the internet. Hmmmmm…. just as she received money to retire here campaign debt?

    I wonder… was it Soros money?

  71. Foxwood says:

    If Obutthole built his house with the ACORN cards. The house of cards is about to collapse.

  72. Foxwood says:

    Is it possible that he doesn’t see that his house is about to fold and is going about his merry way (lobbying for the Olympics) thinking his puppet masters will handle the fallout?

  73. samiam60 says:

    Quick Vote
    What makes you angriest?
    Washington’s lack of accountability 60% 16289
    Lack of respect in workplace 10% 2837
    Hollywood’s cultural coarseness 7% 1903
    None of the above 23% 6242
    Total Votes: 27271

    CNN WEB PAGE POLL

  74. arlenearmy says:

    Before I lay down to take a quick nap, I want to say something about Obama going to Copenhagen to make pitch to have 2016 Olympics in Chicago.

    Then I heard on news today of a kid getting brutally beat to death in Chicago by a gang of kids.

    I think Chicago is an unsafe place in US have these international sports.

    Surely, Copenhagen has the news or access to youtube or internet. Somebody needs to send that video death beating to Copenhagen.

  75. arlenearmy says:

    Oh and 1 more thing, in 2016 Obama wont be in office. So if the Olympics show up in Chicago considering the recent discovery of street killings, guess who will get the blame for it? It will be the new republican president.

  76. Kynikos says:

    what is more troubling Arlene is the state of the Nation and the Prez is off pitching the Olympics?? I think he knows he is done, and the Olympics in Chicago is much more important than Israel and Iran!

  77. samiam60 says:

    Priorities of our President:
    1.Denmark Trip to secure Olympics for Chicago.
    2.Push Health Care deform
    3.Push Health Care deform
    4.Push Health Care Deform
    5.Push Health Care Deform
    6.Make Rah eyed speech about Iran
    7.Make Rah eyed speech about N.Korea
    8.Ignore war in Aftganistan
    9.Ignore war in Iraq
    10.Ignore Acorn Controversy

  78. samiam60 says:

    Gen. Stanley McChrystal says he’s talked to President Obama only once since taking command of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan over the summer, a revelation that drew swift criticism from some who are concerned that the president is putting off McChrystal’s request for more troops.

    “It’s startling,” Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., told FOX News.

    McChrystal talked about his interaction with the president in an interview with CBS News.

    “I’ve talked to the president since I’ve been here once on a (video teleconference),” he said.

    “You talked to him once in 70 days?” CBS’ David Martin asked.

    “That’s correct,” McChrystal said.

    McChrystal, who warned in a recent assessment of the war in Afghanistan that the United States risks failure without more troops, submitted a request for more resources on Friday.

    But the White House says it will review the overall strategy in Afghanistan before addressing troop levels.

    The disclosure that the president and his top Afghanistan commander have spoken just once added to concerns that the administration is waiting too long to deal with the troop level issue.

    Gregg said that former President George W. Bush spoke with his then-top Iraq commander, Gen. David Petraeus, on a regular basis. He said that while Obama may be speaking regularly with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Petraeus, who is now head of Central Command, the president should still keep in regular contact with McChrystal.

    “I would think you’d want to hear one-on-one from your field commander more than once in six months,” he said.

    Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, with the Center for Advanced Defense Studies, said he found it “extraordinarily surprising” that McChrystal, once in regular contact with former Vice President Dick Cheney, has talked to Obama only once since taking command.

    “It’s not really a good sign,” he said.

  79. samiam60 says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/28/mcchrystal-says-hes-met-obama-taking-afghanistan-command/

    How discouraging for our Troops in Iraq and Aftganistan to hear news stories like this one.

    SHAME ON YOU BARRACK OBAMA,

    SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  80. samiam60 says:

    Fox Poll is asking if Obama should be going to Denmark to Lobby for Chicago Olympics!

    Yes, the Olympics are the world’s premier sporting event and our president should help bring them here. 9% (3,484 votes)
    Yes, but I just think sending his wife and a senior adviser would also be okay. 5% (2,206 votes)
    No. With Iran, Afghanistan, health care and the economy already on his plate, he doesn’t need to get involved in Chicago’s Olympics bid. 85% (34,433 votes)
    I’m not sure. 1% (221 votes)

  81. ohiobelle says:

    I love the way the liberal crack heads are attacking the democrats… lol

    Did you guys hear this one?

    Company Backed by Gore Gets Taxpayer Millions

    A start-up automotive company backed by former Vice President Al Gore has been loaned more than half a billion dollars by the federal government.

    According to The Wall Street Journal, Fisker Automotive Inc. has received $529 million in taxpayer money. The loan was intended to help Fikser produce a hybrid sports car to be sold in Finland.

    “This is not for average Americans,” Leslie Paige, a spokeswoman for Citizens Against Government Waste, told the Journal. “This is for people to put something in their driveway that is a conversation piece. It’s a status symbol thing.”

  82. ohiobelle says:

    I am also pissed that Obama can fly his ass to Denmark and beg for the Olympics to come to his home town yet has made a decision on the troops!! Will he be taking the misses and his children!! I am sick of paying for their world traveling!!!! HE COULD CALL DENMARK AND SAVE SOME MONEY!!!

  83. ohiobelle says:

    Oh and correct me if I am wrong but does Chicago even want the Olympics?? NOOOOOO…

  84. arlenearmy says:

    SamI
    Most vet (in public) dance around the issue if they would heartedly serve under any President. I must say that I would not serve under Obama.

    He’s a coward. He’s never talked to the General IN PERSON. That 1 time meeting was via video conference. Obama is becoming more pathetic w/each passing day.

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  86. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio
    Chicago would be a national disaster. Can you imagine the Olympics in D.C.?

    Those foreign athletes would be ripe for an picking.

    You would also notice that its for the yr. 2016. Obama would not be the president in 2016. If something bad happens to the olympians it would fall on the republican president.

  87. ohiobelle says:

    Hello Arlene,

    It’s funny how Obama can’t meet the General in person can take the time and taxpayer money to fly his ass to Denmark to beg for the Olympics.

  88. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene wrote: Chicago would be a national disaster. Can you imagine the Olympics in D.C.?

    I am still trying to figure out why the Olympics would be held in Chicago?? Just because it’s Obama’s home town??? Give me a break! Maybe his family just needs another vaca.

  89. ohiobelle says:

    What about Kerry wanting to change the name of Cap and Trade to pollution reduction. They are scared and trying to throw everything out there. I think they know they are losing the battle.

  90. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio
    I think Obama is tucking & running. The man’s a coward.

    I would be very surprised if it was held in Chicago. Utah would be a safer place.

  91. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio
    This could be another one of Obama way of snubbing. He having a tantrum.

    Remember Chris Wallace said Obama & his admin. are childish.

  92. ohiobelle says:

    This is rich… lol

    Obama’s Top Aide Gaspard Tied to ACORN

    Monday, September 28, 2009 2:40 PM

    By: David A. Patten

    Patrick Gaspard, considered one of the most powerful figures in the Obama White House, is a “longtime ACORN operative” and former union official, according to a report posted Monday on the American Spectator’s online blog.

    Gaspard’s name recently surfaced as the official President Obama dispatched to urge beleaguered New York Gov. David Paterson not to run for another term. Paterson insists he’ll continue to run for governor even without Obama’s support.

    Gaspard has extensive ties to organized labor and community-organizing groups. One measure of his influence in the White House: He holds the same “political affairs director” title that belonged to Karl Rove during the Bush administration.

    The Spectator’s Matthew Vadum, a senior editor at the Capital Research Center think tank, reported that Gaspard was the New York political director for top ACORN official Bertha Lewis before 2003. Lewis is the CEO and “chief organizer” for ACORN, which is the subject of more than a dozen investigations for vote-registration fraud nationwide.

    The House and Senate recently moved to cut off ACORN funding after a series of videos revealed the willingness of its staff to help establish a reputed child-prostitution ring based in San Salvador. Obama refused to support ending federal funding for ACORN, however, telling ABC: “It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to.”

    Vadum cited the blog maintained by ACORN founder Wade Rathke, ChiefOrganizer.org, as his source for the Gaspard-ACORN link.

    In May, Rathke described how officials of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) teamed up with HealthCare Reform Czar Nancy-Ann DeParle to pry big price concessions from private health firms.

    Speaking of the advantage that comes from having powerful friends in high places, Rathke wrote: “Tell me that (Local) 1199’s former political director, Patrick Gaspard (who was ACORN New York’s political director before that) didn’t reach out from the White House and help make that happen, and I’ll tell you to take some remedial classes in ‘politics 101.'”

    The Spectator described Gaspard “ACORN’s Man in the White House.” It also reported that he was national field director in 2004 for American Coming Together (ACT), a get-out-the-vote organization.

    The FEC hit ACT with a $775,000 fine for campaign-finance violations — one of the largest FEC fines ever — and it reportedly ceased operations in 2005.

    Gaspard also worked for eight years for SEIU Local 1199, a hospital workers local, according to the Village Voice.

    The Spectator report detailed what it calls the “fuzzy” line between the SEIU and ACORN.

    Vadum reported that SEIU Local 880 and the SEIU Local 100 that Rathke heads are “part of the ACORN network of organizations.”

    He reported that the locals were listed as such on ACORN’s Web site, buts the references recently were removed.

  93. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene wrote: I think Obama is tucking & running. The man’s a coward.

    I agree.

    I wonder how the American people are going to feel when they hear that we are giving Fan and Fred another $35 billion… I was pissed!

  94. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio said in quoting article:
    “The Spectator described Gaspard “ACORN’s Man in the White House.”

    ———————————

    1. Perhaps this is what Obama meant when he said that ACORN will have a seat at the table in the WH.

    2. This could be 1 of several reasons why Obama is tucking & running to Copenhagen. The ACORN situation is getting worst by the day. B of A kicked them under the bus. I read somewhere on the net that Democrats are dodging ACORN’s phone calls. Even Al Franken punked ACORN. ACORN cheated to get him elected, he publicly thanked them & now he dont want nothing to do w/them.

  95. m2 says:

    y’all, I don’t think there will be a 2016… Obama will have had us nuked by then, or we’ll be barbarians again bartering for food what with the massive inflation.

  96. arlenearmy says:

    Ohio
    I’m hoping & praying that somebody draw up those divorce papers & restrain Obama from the WH.

  97. m2 says:

    he’s probably gone to Denmark to meet with uber-rich elites that control banks and power.

    i.e. Power elites.

    http://www.marxists.org/subject/humanism/mills-c-wright/power-elite.htm

  98. m2 says:

    hi arlene and belle :)
    I’m back from spontaneous beach vacation… lol

  99. m2 says:

    of course I couldn’t run from Obama… he’s everywhere, breaking into all news programs with speeches on MISLEADING HEALTHCARE.

  100. arlenearmy says:

    m2 said:
    “y’all, I don’t think there will be a 2016… Obama will have had us nuked by then, or we’ll be barbarians again bartering for food what with the massive inflation.”
    ————————————

    I wonder if Copenhagen realizes this?

  101. m2 says:

    You Mislead!
    Fact-checking Obama.

    By Michael F. Cannon and Ramesh Ponnuru

    It is a good thing that other congressmen did not follow Rep. Joe Wilson’s lead. If they yelled out every time President Obama said something untrue about health care, they would quickly find themselves growing hoarse.

    By our count, the president made more than 20 inaccurate claims in his speech to Congress. We have excluded several comments that are deeply misleading but not outright false. (For example: Obama pledged not to tap the Medicare trust fund to pay for reform. But there is no money in that “trust fund,” anyway, so the pledge is meaningless.) Even so, we may have missed one or more false statements by the president. Our failure to include one of his comments in the following list should not be taken to constitute an endorsement of its accuracy, let alone wisdom.

    1. “Buying insurance on your own costs you three times as much as the coverage you get from your employer.” The Congressional Budget Office writes, “Premiums for policies purchased in the individual insurance market are, on average, much lower — about one-third lower for single coverage and one-half lower for family policies.” It is true that individual insurance policies are generally 30 percent less comprehensive than employer-provided insurance, and comparable individual policies are about twice as expensive. But much of the extra cost is a function of the tax penalty on purchasing such insurance and the stunted market that penalty has yielded.

    2. “There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage.”An outright falsehood, whether you use the president’s noncitizen-free estimate or the standard, questionable estimate of 46 million uninsured residents.

    A study prepared for the federal government estimates that 9 million people counted as “uninsured” in the standard estimate are in fact enrolled in Medicaid. The left-leaning Urban Institute estimates that 12 million are eligible but not enrolled, meaning they could get coverage at any time. Health economists Mark Pauly of the University of Pennsylvania and Kate Bundorf of Stanford estimate that one quarter to three quarters of the uninsured can afford to purchase coverage, but choose not to do so.

    3.“And every day, 14,000 Americans lose their coverage.” The paper that generated this estimate assumed that two months of severe job losses would continue forever. Applying that paper’s methodology to a broader period of rising unemployment (January 2008 through August 2009) produces a figure below 9,000.

    It also assumes those coverage losses are permanent. Like many of the 46 million Americans we label “uninsured,” many of those 9,000 will regain coverage after a number of months. (David Freddoso illustrates the absurdity of assuming that all coverage losses are permanent.)

    4. “One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy. . . . They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.” He didn’t die because of it. The originator of this false claim, a writer for Slate named Timothy Noah, has admitted he got it wrong.

    5. “Another woman from Texas was about to get a double mastectomy when her insurance company canceled her policy because she forgot to declare a case of acne.” Scott Harrington supplied more facts in the Wall Street Journal: “The woman’s testimony at the June 16 hearing confirms that her surgery was delayed several months. It also suggests that the dermatologist’s chart may have described her skin condition as precancerous, that the insurer also took issue with an apparent failure to disclose an earlier problem with an irregular heartbeat, and that she knowingly underreported her weight on the application.” The woman deserves sympathy, but Obama has stretched the truth here.

    6. Rising costs are “why so many employers . . . are forcing their employees to pay more for insurance.” Perhaps no other issue generates as much of a consensus among health-care economists as this one: The “employer’s share” of employees’ health-care costs comes out of those employees’ wages, not out of profits. In this comment and in five others in his speech, Obama contradicts that basic truth. Employers aren’t forcing their employees to pick up a larger share of the bill because they can’t. Workers are already paying the entire bill.

    7. Rising costs are “why American business that compete internationally . . . are at a huge disadvantage.” False. The rising cost of health benefits does not increase employers’ labor costs because, again, wages adjust downward to compensate. The Congressional Budget Office, under the leadership of Obama’s OMB director, Peter Orszag, confirmed that health-care costs do not hinder competitiveness. Obama economic aide Christina Romer has called this competitiveness argument “schlocky.”

    8. “Those of us with health insurance are also paying a hidden and growing tax for those without it — about $1,000 per year that pays for somebody else’s emergency room and charitable care.” That number comes from a left-wing advocacy group. A Kaiser Family Foundation study debunked the group’s analysis, reaching an estimate closer to $200 per year for a family. The CBO report mentioned above reached the same conclusion.

    9. At this point, Obama said, “These are the facts. Nobody disputes them.” This comment continues Obama’s already long tradition of trying to curtail debate by denying that anyone disagrees with him.

    10. “[Reform] will slow the growth of health-care costs for our families, our businesses, and our government.” In July, CBO director Douglas Elmendorf said, “In the legislation that has been reported we do not see the sort of fundamental changes that would be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount. And on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health-care costs.” The CBO projects that the legislation that Sen. Max Baucus (D., Mont.) has since introduced “would reduce the federal budgetary commitment to health care, relative to that under current law, during the decade following the 10-year budget window,” but hints that the 40 percent cut in Medicare’s reimbursement rates, which helps Baucus achieve that feat, is politically unrealistic. (More on that below.) Health economist Victor Fuchs writes that the proposals before Congress “aim at cost shifting rather than cost reduction.” Obama and his allies have yet to demonstrate anything to the contrary.

    11. “Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: Nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.” Obama’s wording is lawyerly: While not denying that his plan would cause people to lose existing coverage with which they are satisfied, he leads us to believe that he is denying it. But even on its own terms, Obama’s claim is false. The CBO estimates that slashing payments to Medicare Advantage, as Obama advocates, “would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries through Medicare Advantage plans.” It would also cause some people to lose their coverage.

    12. Requiring insurers to cover preventive care “saves money.” Nope. According to a review in the New England Journal of Medicine, “Although some preventive measures do save money, the vast majority reviewed in the health economics literature do not.”

    13. “The [bogus] claim . . . that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens . . . is a lie, plain and simple.” Sarah Palin claimed that Obama’s “death panels” would deny people medical care, not actively kill them. If Palin believes her claim, it is not “a lie, plain and simple.” Most important, the substance of Palin’s claim is, in fact, true. Obama himself proposed a new Independent Medicare Advisory Council with the authority to deny life-extending care to the elderly and disabled.

    14. “There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.” For better or worse, the president’s plan would, in his words, insure illegal immigrants. Various federal agencies, immigration critics, and the media all acknowledge that a small number of undocumented aliens obtain Medicaid benefits despite being ineligible. The president seeks to expand Medicaid, which would create greater opportunities for ineligible aliens to enroll.

    The House Democrats’ health-insurance exchange, which Obama supports, would “apply to” undocumented aliens. The CRS writes that the House legislation “does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens participating in the Exchange — whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present.” Nor does it require that the legal status of people receiving subsidies be verified.

    Finally, Obama supports granting legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, which would make them eligible for government benefits under his health plan.

    15. “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.” Unless Obama refers to some draft legislation inside his head, this claim is false. The House bill allows the “government option” to pay for abortions directly from the U.S. Treasury. Both the House and Baucus bills would subsidize private insurance that cover abortions. (See Douglas Johnson’s comment on this article.)

    16. Critics of the public option would “be right if taxpayers were subsidizing this public insurance option. But they won’t be. I’ve insisted that like any private insurance company, the public insurance option would have to be self-sufficient and rely on the premiums it collects.” How quickly we forget the example of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Like those institutions, the public option would benefit from an implicit subsidy: Everyone would know that Washington would not allow the program to fail, and financial institutions would therefore offer it better rates. (During the Clinton administration, Obama adviser Larry Summers reported that a similar implicit guarantee was worth $6 billion per year to Fannie and Freddie.) The public option would thus be able to undercut its less-subsidized competitors.

    17. “And I will make sure that no government bureaucrat or insurance company bureaucrat gets between you and the care that you need.” Unless the president proposes to abolish insurance, or abolish all care management, there will always be tension between patients, doctors, and public/private insurers over what patients “need.” Such tensions are sure to arise under the president’s IMAC proposal.

    But even if a new program would be “administered by the government, just like Medicaid or Medicare,” it would interfere in those decisions. As an administrative-law judge wrote to one of us after Obama’s address: “I am a government bureaucrat . . . and I just happen to be reviewing [six] cases, albeit involving Medicare and Medicaid, where the government has inserted itself between the patient and the care prescribed by the physician.”

    18. “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future.” “The plan will not add to our deficit.” None of the bills before Congress can credibly claim to keep the deficit from rising. The one that comes closest, the Baucus bill, does so by making the wildly implausible assumption that Congress will allow 40 percent cuts in physician payments under Medicare to take place in 2012. Congress has routinely refused to support much smaller cuts.

    19. “Now, add it all up, and the plan I’m proposing will cost around $900 billion over ten years.” Even the supposedly parsimonious Baucus bill would cost closer to $2 trillion than $1 trillion once we “add it all up.” The CBO says that bill would spend a mere $774 billion over ten years, in part because the spending begins late in that ten-year window. Republican staffers on the Senate Budget Committee estimate that the Baucus bill would cost $1.7 trillion over the first ten years of full implementation.

    Moreover, the preliminary CBO score does not measure the full cost of the bill because it does not include the mandates Baucus would impose on states (about $37 billion) and the private sector (not yet estimated, but 60 percent of total costs in Massachusetts). The other bills would cost even more.

    20. “The middle class will realize greater security, not higher taxes.” Obama would make health insurance compulsory for the middle class (and everyone else). If he thinks that isn’t a tax, he should listen to his economic adviser Larry Summers, or his nominee for assistant secretary for planning and evaluation at HHS, Sherry Glied. Both liken the “individual mandate” to a tax, as do other prominent health economists like Uwe Reinhardt (Princeton) and Jonathan Gruber (MIT). The CBO affirms that the penalties for non-compliance “would be equivalent to a tax or fine.”

    If Obama thinks the middle class wouldn’t pay the taxes he wants to impose on the “drug and insurance companies,” he should read this CBO report or talk to the junior senator from West Virginia, who accurately describes those levies as a “big, big tax” on middle-class coalminers.

    21. “I won’t stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are.” Who are these special interests? In case Obama hadn’t noticed, everyone from the drug-makers to the unions to the insurance companies he demonizes are spending millions to build momentum for his version of reform — in no small part because Obama has promised to buy them off with middle-class tax dollars.

    When President Obama makes a factual claim about health-care policy, he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt about its accuracy. We do not know whether he has been badly misinformed or is deliberately trying to mislead. Either way, he cannot be trusted to reform American health care.

  102. m2 says:

    arlene, I heard Hannity interview a guy that wrote a book on Barack and Michelle – “An American Marriage”… where he covers the deep and long relationship they had with both Ayers and Wright.

    YOU LIE OBAMA.

    all the time.
    Maybe every other word out of your mouth Obama.

  103. ohiobelle says:

    Hello M2!

    Guys I’m getting caught up of The Factor. I’ll be back.

  104. arlenearmy says:

    Im watching Oreilly interviewing McCain.

    Why don’t McCain just repeat his immortal words: “Bomb.. Bomb .. Bomb Iran”. McCain is dancing around the question by giving cryptic answers.

  105. m2 says:

    I’m watching House…
    I’m making a post on Friends Speak…

    Hubby will want me off the computer though soon, so I’ll have to say good night now, nite!

  106. arlenearmy says:

    Another Obama indoctrination video in the schools

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  108. arlenearmy says:

    Dick Morris is indicating that the Clintons are trying it stick it to Obama

  109. arlenearmy says:

    My tivo is currently being configured. i missed part of Dick Morris said regarding Obama’s new poll numbers. Did anyone hear it?

  110. arlenearmy says:

    Hey….. Dick Morris say we may not have a country by 2010.

  111. arlenearmy says:

    Question… Why does Hannity keep inviting Bob Beckle?

  112. samiam60 says:

    I think there is more to Obama leaving the Country on Friday then meets the eye.

    Think about it.

  113. samiam60 says:

    What’s coming?

  114. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good evening everyone! More black racism.

  115. arlenearmy says:

    Tellit
    That dreadlock dude is stone crazy. There were some black wanna-be leaders in Louisiana talking that crap after Katrina hit. When he put that youtube up, there was a bunch of comments. I remember that youtube because I submitted some unflattering comments. I noticed that he blocked comments, which would explain why the comments are not shown.

    When Katrina hit Louisiana, a lot of blacks got relocated to other States. And they never returned. As a result, the State seems to look more “red”.

    Last time I went to LA, I saw a lot of Asians. Vietnam vets told me that Vietnamese hunkered down when Katrina hit & that Vietnamese are better survivors than most. You will notice that when LA folks were loaded into the buses as refugees, you did not see Asians amongst them. By contrast, Mississippi kept its black demographic in tact when Katrina hit.

  116. tellitlikeitis says:

    Thanks for the expalanation about this guy Arlene. I am a white man and I do not hate black people. I Do not understand why African -Americans Keep hitching their wagon to the democrat party. IMO, The only thing the Democrat party has done for the black population is to keep them enslaved

  117. arlenearmy says:

    if im not mistaken that dreadlock headed man wanted to start a commune & get a lot of wives & children. Sort of like the FLDS. The problem is that he dont have large land & the followers he was trying to recruit have no trade skills like the Mormons do. He was trying to build a community far away back in the swamps & separate from whites & that he would the head preacher.

  118. arlenearmy says:

    The only religious group in America I know that are self-sufficient are the FLDS (medical, burial, rock quarry, water well & water tower, tractors, agriculture, schools for the children, security, food, live stock, meat packing, commissary, large acres of land & the members who will work for the greater good of their exclusive society.

    That dreadlock dude was talking crap. It takes discipline to do what the FLDS does.

  119. arlenearmy says:

    Another Obama Mania/Worshiping. Apparently CVS came out with an Obama Chia head & marketed them at Walgreen. Some folks thought it was racial. So walgreens took them off the shelf.

    FOXNEWS Story over the race controversy concerning the Chia head Obama: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/28/chia-obama-finds-home-cvs-shelves-walgreens-yanked-controversial-product/

  120. arlenearmy says:

    Another Obama Mania/Worshiping. Apparently CVS came out with an Obama Chia head & marketed them at Walgreen. Some folks thought it was racial. So walgreens took them off the shelf.

    FOXNEWS Story over the race controversy concerning the Chia head Obama: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/28/chia-obama-finds-home-cvs-shelves-walgreens-yanked-controversial-product/

  121. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning my fellow patriots.
    It is a new day :)

  122. samiam60 says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/29/michelle.obama.olympics/index.html

    <!– .cnnOpinMosaicFeedback a.realmLink {font-weight:bold;font-size:11px;color:#004276;} .cnnOpinMosaicFeedback a.realmLink: hover {color:#CA0002;} —
    Michelle Obama vows to strike Olympic gold for Chicago

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — First lady Michelle Obama vowed Monday to "take no prisoners" as she and her husband launch an unprecedented bid for Chicago's 2016 Olympic bid.

    First lady's attitude about the effort to secure Chicago's bid for the 2016 Olympics: "Take no prisoners."

    "It's a battle — we're going to win — take no prisoners," the first lady said with a smile at a roundtable discussion with reporters in the White House State Dining Room.

    She compared the intense lobbying effort to the 2008 presidential campaign, noting that in the election campaign, a lot of voters made their decision in the final days. She said members of the International Olympic Committee may do the same.

    "And our view is, we're not taking a chance," she said. "We're just not going to assume that the bids — that the decisions are made, and so that no matter what the outcome is, we'll feel as a country, as a team, that we've done everything that we can to bring it home."

    The White House confirmed Monday that President Obama will fly on Thursday to Copenhagen, Denmark, where the International Olympic Committee will be reviewing bids from several countries on Friday. It will be the first time that an American president has lobbied the IOC in this manner.

    Mrs. Obama arrives in Copenhagen on Wednesday with White House senior adviser Valerie Jarrett and other top aides.

    "What a dynamic duo they will be," Jarrett said. "I think it will be high impact, I think their presentation will be both very personal, given that they know and love Chicago so well."

  123. Foxwood says:

    Time to blast the cannon…

    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  124. VotingFemale says:

    What was that rolling boom sound? yawn…

    Oh! It’s Foxwood with that noisy cannon! lol

    Good Morning Fox!

  125. Foxwood says:

    Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, the ACORN house of cards is collapsing. You can run, but you can’t hide. The house is going down, and taking everyone with it. Your fingers are all sticky in the ACORN pie and your days are numbered. Hasta La Lugie.

  126. Foxwood says:

    Morning Sami, VF,

    I guarantee ACORN is involved with this indoctrination. Do you know how many vids are on YouTube? Oh, and all of the sudden there are a zillion video? This was conspired.

  127. Foxwood says:

    Let’s not talk about the National Education Association.

  128. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Samiam!

    I saw that video on Fox and Friends… It does not mention Obama by name but it is obvious it is the result of Socialist Community Organizing Indoctrination.

    The Socialists are bold enough to pull this… just as ACORN was bold enough to do what they have done… and now? Americans are reacting and not in a good way.

    And what does Obama have to say about it?

    silence… and he is busy going to Denmark on a boon doggle.

    What is he doing about Afghanistan?

    silence… he is an embarrassment to this country.

    And now? we see he has ACORN/SEIU (SAME THING) operatives in key administration positions….

    And we warned America this guy was a Marxist… a Black Liberation Marxist…

    Now? We will watch their Marxist knife fighting against Main Stream America gets more vicious… as the Socialists fall further and further under the American Main Stream Bus.

  129. Foxwood says:

    I’d like to see Soros wrapped up in this mess.

  130. Foxwood says:

    Illegal aliens getting healthcare?

    Mr. President! You Lie!

  131. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good morning everyone!

    In Bad Times for Capitalism, Socialists in Europe Suffer.

    PARIS — A specter is haunting Europe — the specter of Socialism’s slow collapse.

    Kai Pfaffenbach/Reuters
    Chancellor Angela Merkel on Sunday in front of the slogan (“the middle”) of her party, the Christian Democratic Union.

    (25) »Even in the midst of one of the greatest challenges to capitalism in 75 years, involving a breakdown of the financial system due to “irrational exuberance,” greed and the weakness of regulatory systems, European Socialist parties and their left-wing cousins have not found a compelling response, let alone taken advantage of the right’s failures.

    German voters clobbered the Social Democratic Party on Sunday, giving it only 23 percent of the vote, its worst performance since World War II.

    Voters also punished left-leaning candidates in the summer’s European Parliament elections and trounced French Socialists in 2007. Where the left holds power, as in Spain and Britain, it is under attack. Where it is out, as in France, Italy and now Germany, it is divided and listless.

    Some American conservatives demonize President Obama’s fiscal stimulus and health care overhaul as a dangerous turn toward European-style Socialism — but it is Europe’s right, not left, that is setting its political agenda.

    Europe’s center-right parties have embraced many ideas of the left: generous welfare benefits, nationalized health care, sharp restrictions on carbon emissions, the ceding of some sovereignty to the European Union. But they have won votes by promising to deliver more efficiently than the left, while working to lower taxes, improve financial regulation, and grapple with aging populations.

    Europe’s conservatives, says Michel Winock, a historian at the Paris Institut d’Études Politiques, “have adapted themselves to modernity.” When Nicolas Sarkozy of France and Germany’s Angela Merkel condemn the excesses of the “Anglo-Saxon model” of capitalism while praising the protective power of the state, they are using Socialist ideas that have become mainstream, he said.

    It is not that the left is irrelevant — it often represents the only viable opposition to established governments, and so benefits, as in the United States, from the normal cycle of electoral politics.

    In Portugal, the governing Socialists won re-election on Sunday, but lost an absolute parliamentary majority. In Spain, the Socialists still get credit for opposing both Franco and the Iraq war. In Germany, the broad left, including the Greens, has a structural majority in Parliament, but the Social Democrats, in postelection crisis, must contemplate allying with the hard left, Die Linke, which has roots in the old East German Communist Party.

    Part of the problem is the “wall in the head” between East and West Germans. While the Christian Democrats moved smoothly eastward, the Social Democrats of the West never joined with the Communists. “The two Germanys, one Socialist, one Communist — two souls — never really merged,” said Giovanni Sartori, a professor emeritus at Columbia University. “It explains why the S.P.D., which was always the major Socialist party in Europe, cannot really coalesce.”

    The situation in France is even worse for the left. Asked this summer if the party was dying, Bernard-Henri Lévy, an emblematic Socialist, answered: “No — it is already dead. No one, or nearly no one, dares to say it. But everyone, or nearly everyone, knows it.” While he was accused of exaggerating, given that the party is the largest in opposition and remains popular in local government, his words struck home.

    The Socialist Party, with a long revolutionary tradition and weakening ties to a diminishing working class, is riven by personal rivalries. The party last won the presidency in 1988, and in 2007, Ségolène Royal lost the presidency to Mr. Sarkozy by 6.1 percent, a large margin.

    With a reputation for flakiness, Ms. Royal narrowly lost the party leadership election last year to a more doctrinaire Socialist, Martine Aubry, by 102 votes out of 135,000. The ensuing allegations of fraud further chilled their relations.

    While Ms. Royal would like to move the Socialists to the center and explore a more formal coalition with the Greens and the Democratic Movement of François Bayrou, Ms. Aubry fears diluting the party. She is both famous and infamous for achieving the 35-hour workweek in the last Socialist government.

    The French Socialist Party “is trapped in a hopeless contradiction,” said Tony Judt, director of the Remarque Institute at New York University. It espouses a radical platform it cannot deliver; the result leaves space for parties to its left that can take as much as 15 percent of the vote.

    The party, at its summer retreat last month at La Rochelle, a coastal resort, still talked of “comrades” and “party militants.” Its seminars included “Internationalism at Globalized Capitalism’s Hour of Crisis.”

    But its infighting has drawn ridicule. Mr. Sarkozy told his party this month that he sent “a big thank-you” to Ms. Royal, “who is helping me a lot,” and Daniel Cohn-Bendit, a prominent European Green politician, said “everyone has cheated” in the Socialist Party and accused Ms. Royal of acting like “an outraged young girl.”

    The internecine squabbling in France and elsewhere has done little to position Socialist parties to answer the question of the moment: how to preserve the welfare state amid slower growth and rising deficits. The Socialists have, in this contest, become conservatives, fighting to preserve systems that voters think need to be improved, though not abandoned.

    “The Socialists can’t adapt to the loss of their basic electorate, and with globalism, the welfare state can no longer exist in the same way,” Professor Sartori said.

    Enrico Letta, 43, is one of the hopes of Italy’s left, currently in disarray in the face of Silvio Berlusconi’s nationalist populism. “We have to understand that Socialism is an answer of the last century,” Mr. Letta said. “We need to build a center-left that is pragmatic, that provides an attractive alternative, and not just an opposition.”

    Mr. Letta argues that Socialist policies will have to be transmuted into a more fluid form to allow an alliance with center, liberal and green parties that won’t be called “Socialist.”

    Mr. Winock, the historian, said, “I think the left and Socialism in Europe still have work to do; they have a raison d’être, and they will have to rely more on environment issues.” Combined with continuing efforts to reduce income disparity, he said, “going green” may give the left more life.

    Mr. Judt argues that European Socialists need a new message — how to reform capitalism, “recognizing the centrality of economic interest while displacing it from its throne as the only way of talking about politics.”

    European Socialists need “to think a lot harder about what the state can and can’t do in the 21st century,” he said.

    Not an easy syllabus. But without that kind of reform, Mr. Judt said, “I don’t think Socialism in Europe has a future; and given that it is a core constitutive part of the European democratic consensus, that’s bad news.”

  132. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning Tellit, VF, and Foxwood

  133. samiam60 says:

    Act Like a President, Mr. Obama

    The election has been held, but the campaign goes on and on. The candidate has yet to become commander in chief.

    Sooner or later it is going to occur to Barack Obama that he is the president of the United States. As of yet, though, he does not act that way, appearing promiscuously on television and granting interviews like the presidential candidate he no longer is. The election has been held, but the campaign goes on and on. The candidate has yet to become commander in chief.

    Take last week’s Group of 20 meeting in Pittsburgh. There, the candidate-in-full commandeered the television networks and the leaders of Britain and France to give the Iranians a dramatic warning. Yet another of their secret nuclear facilities had been revealed and Obama, as anyone could see, was determined to do something about it — just don’t ask what.

    The entire episode had a faux Cuban missile crisis quality to it. Something menacing had been discovered — not Soviet missiles a mere 100 miles or so off Florida but an Iranian nuclear installation about 100 miles from Tehran. As befitting the occasion, various publications supplied us with nearly minute-by-minute descriptions of the crisis atmosphere earlier in the week at the U.N. session — the rushing from room to room, presidential aides conferring, undoubtedly aware that they were in the middle of a book they had yet to write. I scanned the accounts looking for familiar names. Where was McNamara? Where was Bundy? Where, in fact, was the crisis?

  134. tellitlikeitis says:

  135. tellitlikeitis says:

    Help do defend Hannah Giles from the acorn lawsuit.

    http://www.2dialog.com/freemarket/main.php/micro_sites/actionpage/id/96

  136. tellitlikeitis says:

    Andy Williams accuses Barack Obama of following Marxist theory

    Andy Williams, the veteran pop singer, has accused Barack Obama of “following Marxist theory” and “wanting the country to fail”.

    Published: 12:01AM BST 28 Sep 2009

    Williams told the Radio Times he thought Mr Obama wanted to turn the US into a “socialist country”. Photo: GETTY
    Williams, a lifelong Republican whose hits include Moon River and Music To Watch Girls By, told the Radio Times he thought Mr Obama wanted to turn the US into a “socialist country”.

    The 81-year-old was a friend of the Kennedy family during the 1960s and was present at the Los Angeles rally where Robert F Kennedy was assassinated in 1968.

    “I was very close to Bobby and he asked me to be a delegate for him when he ran for president,” he said.

    “He knew about me being a Republican, but just laughed and said, ‘Sign yourself in as a Democrat and then change back afterwards’. Sadly, I never got to do that.

    “I was very close to Teddy Kennedy, too, and his death recently brought it all back. What a tragedy. Had he lived, I think Bobby would have been a great president.”

    But Williams had a less favourable opinion of the current president.

    “Don’t like him at all,” he said, “I think he wants to create a socialist country. The people he associates with are very Left-wing. One is registered as a Communist.

    “Obama is following Marxist theory. He’s taken over the banks and the car industry. He wants the country to fail.”

    Politicians, media personalities and conservative activists have accused the US president of espousing socialist ideas.

    Earlier this month, Jim Greer, the chairman of the Republican Party in Florida, said he was “absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology”, after the US leader appeared in a televised address to be shown in classrooms around the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/6241196/Andy-Williams-accuses-Barack-Obama-of-following-Marxist-theory.html

  137. Foxwood says:

    Morning Tellit,

    Some good info about Europe. Still not alot of hope there, tho.

  138. tellitlikeitis says:

  139. samiam60 says:

    Act Like a President, Mr. Obama

    The election has been held, but the campaign goes on and on. The candidate has yet to become commander in chief.

    Sooner or later it is going to occur to Barack Obama that he is the president of the United States. As of yet, though, he does not act that way, appearing promiscuously on television and granting interviews like the presidential candidate he no longer is. The election has been held, but the campaign goes on and on. The candidate has yet to become commander in chief.

  140. VotingFemale says:

    The definition of ‘is’… they are like temperamental know it all excuse for everything teenagers with the keys to the country.

    Foxwood says

    Illegal aliens getting healthcare?

    Mr. President! You Lie!

  141. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Foxwood.

  142. VotingFemale says:

    From Feb 23, 2009

    Obama’s Afgan War Solution; Look Mommy! A Combat Cheap!

    samiam60 says

    Act Like a President, Mr. Obama

    The election has been held, but the campaign goes on and on. The candidate has yet to become commander in chief.

    Sooner or later it is going to occur to Barack Obama that he is the president of the United States. As of yet, though, he does not act that way, appearing promiscuously on television and granting interviews like the presidential candidate he no longer is. The election has been held, but the campaign goes on and on. The candidate has yet to become commander in chief.

  143. VotingFemale says:

    Socialist CinC; an oxymoron

  144. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning VF.

  145. samiam60 says:

    VF, my sides are hurting from laughing so hard at some of your old comments from the past link you just posted.

  146. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Tellit!

  147. Foxwood says:

    Put that on the collectors shelf if you find one….

  148. VotingFemale says:

    Interest rate on Deficit ….

    $500 Million a day, everyday… how much of that is going to China who supports Iran?

  149. tellitlikeitis says:

  150. Foxwood says:

    I thought George Bush was the devil. That’s what Hugo said.

  151. tellitlikeitis says:

    Rev Manning is a trip but he is right on. lol

  152. samiam60 says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/29/michelle.obama.olympics/index.html

    Michelle Obama vows to strike Olympic gold for Chicago

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — First lady Michelle Obama vowed Monday to “take no prisoners” as she and her husband launch an unprecedented bid for Chicago’s 2016 Olympic bid.

    First lady’s attitude about the effort to secure Chicago’s bid for the 2016 Olympics: “Take no prisoners.”

    “It’s a battle — we’re going to win — take no prisoners,” the first lady said with a smile at a roundtable discussion with reporters in the White House State Dining Room.

  153. tellitlikeitis says:

  154. Foxwood says:

    This just in. Brietbart will be releasing a video of people praying to Obutthole.

  155. Foxwood says:

    In about 15 to 30 minutes the video will be released.

  156. Foxwood says:

    Our savior has come…

  157. Foxwood says:

    The woman in the white robe in the video is in the whitehouse. I didn’t catch her name.

  158. m2 says:

    you guys, morning!
    I just had a thought as I was reading the Examiner on the Chicago murder/beating and Obama trying to get Olympics…

    OK, the article said that he would be worshipped as a Mega-god for bringing the Olympics to the U.S. by the Corporate Media

    “Ding”

    Who has contract on Olympics? NBC right. i.e. GE. i.e. GE/Obama.

    i.e. the same GE that Obama pushes legislation to funnel billions to in return for favorable propaganda and power-strings.

    And yet, Afghanistan is on the brink and he will have only talked to the commander 1 time in 70 days.

    Obama is not only a Marxist-propagandic fool puppet, but a Corporate Whore. Really, Michael Moore’s new flick should be about the “Corporatism” (not Capitalism) of Obama.. the biggest money whore in the nation.

  159. m2 says:

    alright, I got to clean my car… bbl!

  160. Foxwood says:

    Sami, Tellit,

    This is Biblical.

  161. Foxwood says:

    Cicilia Gamilio is the womans name. She works in the whitehouse. She was the Senior VP of La Raza.

  162. Foxwood says:

    Obutthole used to work for her.

  163. samiam60 says:

    Cicilia Gamilio is this not a whacked out Italian Woman?

    I need to make a phone call.

  164. Foxwood says:

    This will be on Becks show tonight.

  165. Foxwood says:

    I may have spelled it wrong Sami. She’s of the spanish Gamilio’s.

  166. samiam60 says:

    Close enough for me Foxwood.

  167. samiam60 says:

    Foxwood said:

    Sami, Tellit,

    This is Biblical.

  168. VotingFemale says:

    Michael Moore is a male tub of lard version of Janeane Garofalo… who’s own dog knows she is an asshat.

  169. samiam60 says:

    This is Biblical like nothing I have ever seen in my life time.

    10/21/2012 may not be so far fetched.

  170. samiam60 says:

    I’d piss on her too VF.

  171. samiam60 says:

    Call me Crazy, but it seems to me that the White Race is systematically being enslaved.

  172. Foxwood says:

    My downloader is screaming!

  173. VotingFemale says:

    What the Socialists can NOT handle is US Getting in their FACE!

    AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Sucks to be them!

  174. VotingFemale says:

    nods knowingly… ;)

    Go Downloader Go!

    Foxwood says

    My downloader is screaming!

  175. samiam60 says:

    Tellit that is some nasty stuff I just read your posting.

  176. samiam60 says:

    Regarding Iran:

    Sanctions Without Bite?

    As Obama readies an arsenal of sanctions aimed at pressuring Iran to fully disclose its nuclear program, questions arise whether it’s a response without bite

  177. samiam60 says:

    Seems like Obama is trying to help Iran.

  178. tellitlikeitis says:

    Click on this link VF. I’ll bet this will make your day.

    http://www.ireport.com/people/davidjw

  179. VotingFemale says:

    david who? hahahahaha

    tellitlikeitis says

    Click on this link VF. I’ll bet this will make your day.

    http://www.ireport.com/people/davidjw

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  183. LisaInTX says:

    From Newt G….
    Intimidation: Free Speech Rights of Insurance Companies Denied

    Medicare Advantage was created to do what the Center for Health Transformation (CHT) has long fought for: To give all seniors more private choices of higher quality health care. It currently provides almost 11 million Americans coverage through private insurance plans. Recent data shows that these seniors have better health outcomes than those in traditional Medicare.

    Current legislation in Washington will gut the program. H.R. 3200 in the House will cut Medicare Advantage by $172 billion. The bill sponsored by Sen. Max Baucus in the Senate will cut the popular program by $123 billion.

    If you’re just hearing about this now, here’s the reason: When Humana (with whom we’ve worked with in the past at CHT) tried to inform its Medicare Advantage members that Democratic health care reform could lower their benefits, the government ordered them to cease and desist and opened an investigation of the company.

    Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) subsequently introduced legislation in the Senate Finance Committee to protect the 1st Amendment rights of private insurance companies to criticize health care reform proposals.

    Democrats on the committee unanimously defeated the bill.

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  185. samhenry says:

    Sleepless here – antibiotics really keep me either zonked or moving briskly along.

    RE Polanski

    The “rape rape” happened after the murder of his wife and unborn child. There may have been a lot of residual sympathy out there for him. If a rapists comes from a sad situation, it’s a question of rebound rape don’t you see? Although there is nothing funny about that. I am amazed at the number of people who really think that if the victim is not at peace it’s okay.

  186. samhenry says:

    It’s fun to be up and awake
    BEFORE the canon fire!

  187. samhenry says:

    youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L–cqAI3IUI&feature=fvw]

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