Sarah Palin Speaks! China Listens; Obama Overshadowed

Sarah Palin Speaks with depth of knowledge to China on China-US relations

Sarah Palin Speaks with depth of knowledge to China on China-US relations

The Socialists
are not liking this
one tiny bit!
Sucks to be them, eh?

They are inventing a story that a few ‘un-named’ people walked out on the speech.

Un-named people! HAHAHAHA

Some un-named people
gave up Socialism
after hearing her speech! ROFL

Cell Phone Vid Clip:

Let’s take a look at Sarah Palin’s talking points during her speech of Sept. 23, 2009 speech in Hong Kong, China, shall we???

From the Wall Street Journal…

Excerpts of Sarah Palin’s Speech to Investors in Hong Kong

September 23, 2009, 1:45 PM ET

Alex Frangos and Tatiana Lau report from Hong Kong on Sarah Palin’s speech.

Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, delivered her first major international speech outside North America Wednesday in Hong Kong at an investor conference. The speech was closed to the media, but The Wall Street Journal reviewed a recording of the event. Here are some excerpts on various topics, from death panels to Chinese human rights.

Sarah Palin, Hong Kong, CLSA Asia Pacific Markets Conference, Sept. 23, 2009 Speech Excerpts

U.S. DOMESTIC POLICY

On Conservatism:

You can call me a common-sense conservative. My approach to the issues facing my country and the world, issues that we’ll discuss today, are rooted in this common-sense conservatism… Common sense conservatism deals with the reality of the world as it is. Complicated and beautiful, tragic and hopeful, we believe in the rights and the responsibilities and the inherent dignity of the individual.

We don’t believe that human nature is perfectible; we’re suspicious of government efforts to fix problems because often what it’s trying to fix is human nature, and that is impossible. It is what it is. But that doesn’t mean that we’re resigned to, well, any negative destiny. Not at all. I believe in striving for the ideal, but in realistic confines of human nature…

On Liberalism:

The opposite of a common-sense conservative is a liberalism that holds that there is no human problem that government can’t fix if only the right people are put in charge. Unfortunately, history and common sense are not on its side. We don’t trust utopian promises; we deal with human nature as it is.

On what caused the financial crisis:

While we might be in the wilderness, conservatives need to defend the free market system and explain what really caused last year’s collapse. According to one version of the story, America’s economic woes were caused by a lack of government intervention and regulation and therefore the only way to fix the problem, because, of course, every problem can be fixed by a politician, is for more bureaucracy to impose itself further, deeper, forcing itself deeper into the private sector.

I think that’s simply wrong. We got into this mess because of government interference in the first place. The mortgage crisis that led to the collapse of the financial market, it was rooted in a good-natured, but wrongheaded, desire to increase home ownership among those who couldn’t yet afford to own a home. In so many cases, politicians on the right and the left, they wanted to take credit for an increase in home ownership among those with lower incomes. But the rules of the marketplace are not adaptable to the mere whims of politicians.

Lack of government wasn’t the problem. Government policies were the problem. The marketplace didn’t fail. It became exactly as common sense would expect it to. The government ordered the loosening of lending standards. The Federal Reserve kept interest rates low. The government forced lending institutions to give loans to people who, as I say, couldn’t afford them. Speculators spotted new investment vehicles, jumped on board and rating agencies underestimated risks.

On Milton Friedman:

Now even Milton Friedman, he recognized that the free market is truly free when there is a level playing field for all participants, and good financial regulations aim to provide the transparency that we need to ensure the level playing field does exist, but we need not, we need to make sure that this regulatory reform that we’re talking about is aimed at the problems on Wall Street and won’t attack Main Street.

On the Federal Reserve:

How can we discuss reform without addressing the government policies at the root of the problems? The root of the collapse? And how can we think that setting up the Fed as the monitor of systemic risk in the financial sector will result in meaningful reform? The words “fox” and “hen house” come to mind. The Fed’s decisions helped create the bubble. Look at the root cause of most asset bubbles, and you’ll see the Fed somewhere in the background.

On deficits and Reaganism:

Common sense tells you that when you’re in a hole, you have to stop digging! A common sense conservative looks to history to find solutions to the problems confronting us, and the good news is that history has shown us a way out of this, a way forward from recession. Ronald Reagan, he was faced with an even worse recession, and he showed us how to get out of here.

If you want real job growth, you cut taxes! And you reduce marginal tax rates on all Americans. Cut payroll taxes, eliminate capital gain taxes and slay the death tax, once and for all. Get federal spending under control, and then you step back and you watch the U.S. economy roar back to life. But it takes more courage for a politician to step back and let the free market correct itself than it does to push through panicky solutions or quick fixes…

I can’t wait until we get that Reaganomics sense supplied again because we are going to survive, and we’re going to thrive and expand and roar back to life. And as the world sees this, the world will be a healthier, more secure, safer and more prosperous place when this happens.

On greenhouse gas legislation:

It seems like some are looking to ever more ways that will actually destroy economic opportunities today. Take for example, Washington’s cap-and-trade scheme. I call it the “cap-and-tax” scheme. Right now we have the highest unemployment rate in 25 years, and it’s still rising. And yet some in D.C. are pushing a cap-and-tax bill that could cripple our energy industry or energy market and dramatically increase the rates of the unemployed, and that’s not just in the energy sector.

American jobs in every industry will be threatened by the rising cost of doing business under this cap-and-tax plan. The cost of farming will certainly increase. That’s going to drive up the cost of groceries and drive down farm incomes. The cost of manufacturing, warehousing and transportation will also rise. We are all going to feel the effects. The Americans hardest hit will be those who are already struggling to make ends meet today, much less with this new tax every month…

I am not indifferent to environmental concerns. Far from it. As governor, I created a sub-cabinet to study the impacts of climate change in my state. And I was the first governor to do so. It took us in a new direction…

I’m a supporter of nuclear power and renewables. We can develop these resources without destroying our economy. And we can help the environment and our economy through energy independence.

On health care:

I seem to have acquired notoriety in national debate. And all because of two words: death panels. And it is a serious term. It was intended to sound a warning about the rationing that is sure to follow if big government tries to simultaneously increase health care coverage while also claiming to decrease costs. Government has just got to be honest with the people about this….

As I said, it’s just common sense to realize that government’s attempts to solve large problems like the health-care challenges that we have, more often create new ones, and a top down one size fits all plan will not improve the workings of a nationwide health-care system that accounts for some one-fifth of our economy.

Common sense also tells us that passing a trillion dollar new retirement program, that’s not the way to reduce health-care spending. Real health-care reform is market oriented, patient centered and result driven. It would give all individuals the same tax benefit, that an ideal plan that I would have in mind, same tax benefits as those who get coverage through their employers. And give Medicare recipients vouchers so that they can buy their own coverage. And reform tort laws and change regulations to allow people to buy insurance across state lines. Rather than another top down government plan, we should give Americans themselves control over their own health care with market friendly responsible ideas.

FOREIGN POLICY

On relations with China:

We engage with a hope that Beijing becomes a responsible stakeholder, but we must take steps in the event that it goes in a different direction. See, we all hope to see a China that is stable and peaceful and prosperous. Optimism that yes, it will be.

Asia is at its best when it is not dominated by a single power. In seeking Asia’s continued peace and prosperity, we should seek, as we did in Europe, an Asia whole and free. Free from domination by any one power…

On China’s relations with Taiwan, and other controversial issues:

We simply cannot turn a blind eye to Chinese policies and actions that could undermine international peace and security. Here, China has some one thousand missiles aimed at Taiwan and no serious observer though believes that it poses a serious threat to Beijing. Those same Chinese forces make our friends in Japan and Australia kind of nervous.

China provides support for some of the most questionable regimes, from Sudan to Burma to Zimbabwe. China’s military buildup, it raises concern from Delhi to Tokyo because it’s taking place in the absence of really any discernable threat to it. China, along with Russia, has repeatedly undermined efforts to impose tougher sanctions on Iran for its defiance of the international community in pursuing its nuclear program. And the Chinese food and safety, uh food and product safety record, of course it’s raised alarms from East Asia and Europe to the U.S. and domestic instance of unrest. From the protest of Uighurs and Tibetans to Chinese workers throughout the country rightfully makes a lot of people nervous.

On human rights and democracy in China:

The more politically open and just China is, the more Chinese citizens of every ethnic group will be able to settle disputes in court rather than on the streets. The more open it is, the less we’ll be concerned about its military buildup and its intentions. The more transparent China is, the more likely it is that they will find a true and lasting friendship based on shared values as well as interests. And I’m not talking about a U.S.-led democracy crusade. [We’re] not going to impose our values on other countries. We don’t seek to do that. But the ideas of freedom and liberty and respect for human rights, it’s not just a U.S. idea. They’re very much more than that. They’re enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and many other international covenants and treaties.

On China-U.S. economic relations:

Our economic interdependence drives our relationship with China. I see a future of more trade with China and more American high tech goods in China. But in order for that to happen, we need China to improve its rule of law, and protect our intellectual property. We need to avoid protectionism and China’s flirtation with state assisted national champions. On our part we should be more open to Chinese investment where our national security interests are not threatened. In the end though, our economic relationship will truly thrive when Chinese citizens and foreign corporations can hold the Chinese government accountable when their actions are unjust.

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374 Responses to Sarah Palin Speaks! China Listens; Obama Overshadowed

  1. tellitlikeitis says:

  2. VotingFemale says:

    Imockmydimwittedgoatajad making friends at the UN again…

    what a smuck

  3. samiam60 says:

    Protesters against Capitalism clash with Police in Pittsburgh:

    http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/21105294/detail.html

  4. VotingFemale says:

    looks like the Pittsburg PD is doing their job…

    those g-20 protesters are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to low-lifer scum…

  5. samiam60 says:

    Every body must be watching Beck :)

  6. samiam60 says:

    Best Wishes for the Jewish High Holidays
    Share
    Today at 5:37pm
    Todd and I would like to offer our best wishes to the Jewish community as they celebrate the High Holy Days. With the celebration of the Jewish New Year this week and the observance of the Day of Atonement next week, we are reminded of the hopeful commitment to renewal and peace exemplified by the Jewish tradition and the Jewish people throughout history.

    Yom Kippur, the most solemn and important of the Jewish holy days, is a time of reflection and supplication for forgiveness. The timeless human struggle to promote justice, harmony, and peace is seen here in this process of atonement – in humbly seeking pardon for past wrongs in the hope of a new beginning. It reminds us that if we wish to co-exist globally, we must all strive for forgiveness and tolerance.

    A speech was given at the United Nations General Assembly yesterday that was full of hateful anti-Semitic rhetoric. It was a shameful display before a body whose very charter is premised on the need for co-operation and harmony in pursuit of peaceful co-existence between nations. Such talk was especially abhorrent coming as it did during the Jewish High Holidays. The world community must speak with one voice in declaring anti-Semitism and all forms of intolerance and racism utterly unacceptable. There is no place in the community of peace-loving nations for those who traffic in hate or deny the terrible atrocity of the Nazi Holocaust.

    In this holy season, we join the Jewish people in the struggle to promote justice, harmony, and peace. May God bless them.

    – Sarah Palin

  7. samiam60 says:

    Chavez: ‘Smell of Hope’ Has Replaced ‘Smell of Sulfur’ at U.N. Dais
    After spending the first 20 minutes of his address to the U.N General Assembly asserting that a revolution is under way in South America and promoting an Oliver Stone film that depicts his life, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez began taking political shots at his former rival.

  8. VotingFemale says:

    someone PLEASE fumigate that UN podium…

    After Achma-Screwmydonkeyjad, Momo KaDaffyduck, and Pee-ewww-go Shaft-yaaz it is contaminated with vermin.

  9. samiam60 says:

    I like to think of it as Obama Swine stew

  10. samiam60 says:

    They now have a vaccine for Swine Stew.

    One good shot of Sarah Palin

  11. Foxwood says:

    “Chavez: ‘Smell of Hope’ Has Replaced ‘Smell of Sulfur’ at U.N. Dais After spending the first 20 minutes of his address to the U.N General Assembly asserting that a revolution is under way in South America and promoting an Oliver Stone film that depicts his life, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez began taking political shots at his former rival.:

    I think Pat Robertson had it right. We should have assassinated the SOB!

  12. arlenearmy says:

    Yes, Obama is being overshadowed. This is 1 of reason why he keeps getting on television.

    Sometimes I think Obama is auditioning for American Idol. Did yall hear him chant that “Fired Up.. Ready to Go”. He sounded real cheap & childish chanting that foolishness! He acts like he’s at some football rally.

  13. arlenearmy says:

    Foxwood
    One of foxnews reporters had it right when he said that Chavez has Bush on the brains. Chavez really misses Bush.

  14. ohiobelle says:

    Hello everybody. I’ve been busy reading something I find interesting…. The Water Resources Development Act of 2007… lol

    Anybody catch Beck? My 5 yr old has been told to leave the room if that song is ever sung in his class!

  15. arlenearmy says:

    Oh lord. 75 yr. old Justice Gingsburg was taken to hospital. I hope she’s ok. We dont want another liberal appointed to the bench.

  16. arlenearmy says:

    Belle
    I just hope parents will withdraw their kids from these public schools until this obama indoctrination is under control.

  17. arlenearmy says:

    Belle
    Does your interesting read have anything to do with what going on in California?

  18. ohiobelle says:

    Arlene, yes my reading does have to do with California. If you could see my den.. hahah Between the Water Resources Development Act of 2007 and the Clean Water Act, I’m running out of desk space… haha

  19. ohiobelle says:

    The object of my affection has turned to Paul Pelosi and his apartment buildings.

  20. Foxwood says:

    More indoctrination…

  21. tellitlikeitis says:

    I am so glad I do not have kids in school. I feel that I am living a bad dream. I t seems our schools have become indoctranation centers for brainwashing our youth. It is up to the citizens of this country to take this country back from these Communist F#ck#rs. I only hope it is not too late.

  22. ohiobelle says:

    I would love to stick around and talk about this communist take over but I’m reading some investment articles from California. I just read this (regarding investing and the California water crisis):
    This is the moment we, as investors, have been waiting for: water panic to take root.

    It’s only when that happens that the water industry gets the attention it deserves, and people are willing to conserve or pay more for water. Reaping water profits is also the easiest at this time.

    SICK! THIS IS HOW THE MOONBATS WORK! THEY ALWAYS CREATE A CRISIS!!

    I’ll be back tomorrow. Sweet dreams.

  23. arlenearmy says:

    I didnt quit catch the website mentioned on Hannity. Sounds like Hannah’s attorney said:
    defendhannah.com

    I went to it because the site is not coming up.

  24. arlenearmy says:

    I found the following link on big government website to donate to hannah giles.

    http://www.2dialog.com/freemarket/main.php/micro_sites/actionpage/id/96

    Im gonna want til i research to determine if its legit before i donate. I say this because on Hannity it was said that the site address was
    DefendHannah.com

  25. Kynikos says:

    Thanks for the Tweets Arlene!!!! Have to be this weekend before I get a new post up, sooooooo many topics, Kynikos

  26. arlenearmy says:

    You are welcome Kink

    I’m just trying to make myself useful around here.

  27. arlenearmy says:

    The publicity of:
    1. The lunacy of the Obama Chanting (“fired up … ready to go” chanting) within 9 months of his presidency …
    2. Kiddies Singing to Obama in the schools … &
    3. Recent reminder of Obama & democrat party’s cozy acquaintance w/ Castro & Chavez

    are all beginning to make the liberals become embarrassed to themselves. Seriously, most folks don’t want to be associated with such imagery because its truly degrading to the envied stature of an American. Actually it’s beginning to look foolish & juvenile!

    Admittedly, while the campaign was going on, the Obama frenzy was a fad, as folks were excited & enchanted. But the “Yes We Can” chanting & fainting has gotten old. Really, deep down in an American’s soul, most Americans will NOT trade their self worth to praise & bow down to another human being. Not even to Obama, because the liberals have made themselves appear BENEATH Obama.

    Everyday, the liberals have been looking more un-American; whereas the tea party patriots are perceived as the US flag waving freedom loving AMERICANS.

    Today, when Chavez claimed he smelled the pleasing scent of Obama in the air, it really made Obama appear like a socialist. Chavez shout out for Obama reminded me of the black caucus who went to Cuba & who then started praising Castro the communist.

    Yet the Obamanites / democrats don’t like it when they see posters depicting Obama or his party as commies or socialists. Remember, Obama would not wear a flag pin til he was pressured. Surely the liberals can understand why folks don’t see the patriotism in him or his party.

    I would rather be labeled an American tea bagging patriot chanting God Bless America or U-S-A, than to be tagged as an Obamanite fainting & chanting “O-B-A–M-A”.

  28. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning All!!!

    Wakey Wakey!!!

  29. VotingFemale says:

    Flashy Eyes Obama uses emotion instead of reason and logic to hypnotize a AFL-CIO Union crowd… leading a chant from the podium of the Office of President of the United States of America

    Adolph would be proud…

  30. VotingFemale says:

    Arlene… when you composed this comment of yours you wrote the basis of a blogpost…

    I urge you to convert it into a blogpost on your blog…

    ArleneArmy said:

    The publicity of:
    1. The lunacy of the Obama Chanting (”fired up … ready to go” chanting) within 9 months of his presidency …
    2. Kiddies Singing to Obama in the schools … &
    3. Recent reminder of Obama & democrat party’s cozy acquaintance w/ Castro & Chavez

    are all beginning to make the liberals become embarrassed to themselves. Seriously, most folks don’t want to be associated with such imagery because its truly degrading to the envied stature of an American. Actually it’s beginning to look foolish & juvenile!

    Admittedly, while the campaign was going on, the Obama frenzy was a fad, as folks were excited & enchanted. But the “Yes We Can” chanting & fainting has gotten old. Really, deep down in an American’s soul, most Americans will NOT trade their self worth to praise & bow down to another human being. Not even to Obama, because the liberals have made themselves appear BENEATH Obama.

    Everyday, the liberals have been looking more un-American; whereas the tea party patriots are perceived as the US flag waving freedom loving AMERICANS.

    Today, when Chavez claimed he smelled the pleasing scent of Obama in the air, it really made Obama appear like a socialist. Chavez shout out for Obama reminded me of the black caucus who went to Cuba & who then started praising Castro the communist.

    Yet the Obamanites / democrats don’t like it when they see posters depicting Obama or his party as commies or socialists. Remember, Obama would not wear a flag pin til he was pressured. Surely the liberals can understand why folks don’t see the patriotism in him or his party.

    I would rather be labeled an American tea bagging patriot chanting God Bless America or U-S-A, than to be tagged as an Obamanite fainting & chanting “O-B-A–M-A”.

  31. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Guten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  32. Foxwood says:

    Good Morning VF!

  33. Foxwood says:

    This is how Obutthole became President…

  34. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Foxwood!

    good vid! he even acts like Obutthole at an AFL-CIO assembly hawking his snake oil…

  35. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm
    He spews his bunk
    and I blow chunks
    Barack Hussein Obama…

  36. VotingFemale says:

    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

    He loves the sheep
    who kiss his feet
    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

  37. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

    The ACORN grows
    his Presidency blows
    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

  38. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

    He takes your wealth
    with little stealth
    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

  39. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

    Barack Hussein
    will wash your brain
    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

  40. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

    Our futures bleak
    His policies reek
    Barack Hussein Obama,
    Mmmm, mmm, mm

  41. Foxwood says:

    Off to the showers. I will work a hard day today and have a week off.

    But it won’t be a vacation. I have work to do on my house. Hopefully finishing the office and starting on the shop.

  42. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning everyone!!! Shocking Video! This will be a daily event under Obama’s martial law. They have a new acoustic weapon in their arsenal.

  43. tellitlikeitis says:

  44. Foxwood says:

    Morning Tellit.

    I thought it was going to be the crap canon.

  45. Foxwood says:

    I wonder if the media would have covered the 912 teaparty if they where hit with gas?

  46. Foxwood says:

    They are playing a lot of pro healthcare commercials on Fox lately.

  47. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood , It looks like a scene out of a movie but It is very real.

  48. Foxwood says:

    VF, may I use your limerick on my blog?

  49. VotingFemale says:

    here is a comment on a blog out there about this Obama Worship Indoctrination of our children…

    I am sure you will find it amusing…


    Comment by alppuccino on 9/25 @ 5:20 am #

    Crappy meter, horrible rhymes. Right up my alley:

    Oh I wish I was in the land of ACORN,
    IRS will fund your pay-porn
    Look away, while we pay, every day
    ‘bama land

    If you’d joined up then you just might’a
    done ten years cuz you caught Al Queada
    Run away CIA, USA
    ‘bama land

    Oh I wish I was Obama
    Michelle is hot
    That Axelrod is such a god
    Obama’s bod is yummy.

    I’m gay, I’m gay, I wish I was Obama.

  50. Foxwood says:

    I wouldn’t doubt we’ll see this more and more on non-violent protesters in the future..

  51. Foxwood says:

    Whooo! With the exception of the last part, I’da thought I wrote it.

  52. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Tellit!

    SamH is prowling around as well… Good Morning Dear!

  53. VotingFemale says:

    I thought of you when I read it… ‘cept for the last part of course ;)

    Foxwood says

    Whooo! With the exception of the last part, I’da thought I wrote it.

  54. VotingFemale says:

    we need Obutthole lyrics to this song…

  55. Foxwood says:

    I do have a journal of good poetry as well as crap such as that.

    I love parody.

  56. Foxwood says:

    Soon as I get out of work mode I’ll probably work on something to that effect.

  57. VotingFemale says:

    lyrics for this one would be fun!

    Get out the way! Obutthole’ is’ahh flashin’
    flashin all the way down the mighty Lenin creek

    flashin his eyes, and’a stirrin up the she-eep
    down on the banks of the mighty Lenin creek

  58. Foxwood says:

    Good Morning SamH!

  59. VotingFemale says:

    foxwood… we could make youtube videos with lyrics overlayed on songs like that…

    I am sure they would be popular and good advertisement at you tube for the blogs

  60. VotingFemale says:

    I can imagine a jib-jab video with the song and lyrics

    with a chicken with obama’s head hoppin round

  61. VotingFemale says:

    Ahhh there is the renown Editor!!!

    Good Morning SamH!

  62. Foxwood says:

    Heading out to work. I’ll catch you gals n guys at the next cellsite.

    Where’s Sami?

  63. tellitlikeitis says:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/23/AR2009092304711_pf.html

    Environmentalists Seek to Wipe Out Plush Toilet Paper
    Soft Toilet Paper’s Hard on the Earth, But Will We Sit for the Alternative?

    By David A. Fahrenthold
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, September 24, 2009

    ELMWOOD PARK, N.J. — There is a battle for America’s behinds.

    It is a fight over toilet paper: the kind that is blanket-fluffy and getting fluffier so fast that manufacturers are running out of synonyms for “soft” (Quilted Northern Ultra Plush is the first big brand to go three-ply and three-adjective).

    It’s a menace, environmental groups say — and a dark-comedy example of American excess.

    The reason, they say, is that plush U.S. toilet paper is usually made by chopping down and grinding up trees that were decades or even a century old. They want Americans, like Europeans, to wipe with tissue made from recycled paper goods.

    It has been slow going. Big toilet-paper makers say that they’ve taken steps to become more Earth-friendly but that their customers still want the soft stuff, so they’re still selling it.

    This summer, two of the best-known combatants in this fight signed a surprising truce, with a big tissue maker promising to do better. But the larger battle goes on — the ultimate test of how green Americans will be when nobody’s watching.

    “At what price softness?” said Tim Spring, chief executive of Marcal Manufacturing, a New Jersey paper maker that is trying to persuade customers to try 100 percent recycled paper. “Should I contribute to clear-cutting and deforestation because the big [marketing] machine has told me that softness is important?”

    He added: “You’re not giving up the world here.”

    Toilet paper is far from being the biggest threat to the world’s forests: together with facial tissue, it accounts for 5 percent of the U.S. forest-products industry, according to industry figures. Paper and cardboard packaging makes up 26 percent of the industry, although more than half is made from recycled products. Newspapers account for 3 percent.

    But environmentalists say 5 percent is still too much.

    Felling these trees removes a valuable scrubber of carbon dioxide, they say. If the trees come from “farms” in places such as Brazil, Indonesia or the southeastern United States, natural forests are being displaced. If they come from Canada’s forested north — a major source of imported wood pulp — ecosystems valuable to bears, caribou and migratory birds are being damaged.

    And, activists say, there’s just the foolish idea of the thing: old trees cut down for the briefest and most undignified of ends.

    “It’s like the Hummer product for the paper industry,” said Allen Hershkowitz, senior scientist with the Natural Resources Defense Council. “We don’t need old-growth forests . . . to wipe our behinds.”

    The reason for this fight lies in toilet-paper engineering. Each sheet is a web of wood fibers, and fibers from old trees are longer, which produces a smoother and more supple web. Fibers made from recycled paper — in this case magazines, newspapers or computer printouts — are shorter. The web often is rougher.

    So, when toilet paper is made for the “away from home” market, the no-choice bathrooms in restaurants, offices and schools, manufacturers use recycled fiber about 75 percent of the time.

    But for the “at home” market, the paper customers buy for themselves, 5 percent at most is fully recycled. The rest is mostly or totally “virgin” fiber, taken from newly cut trees, according to the market analysis firm RISI Inc.

    Big tissue makers say they’ve tried to make their products as green as possible, including by buying more wood pulp from forest operations certified as sustainable.

    But despite environmentalists’ concerns, they say customers are unwavering in their desire for the softest paper possible.

    “That’s a segment [of consumers] that is quite demanding of products that are soft,” said James Malone, a spokesman for Georgia-Pacific. Sales figures seem to make that clear: Quilted Northern Ultra Plush, the three-ply stuff, sold 24 million packages in the past year, bringing in more than $144 million, according to the market research firm Information Resources Inc.

    Last month, Greenpeace announced an agreement that it said would change this industry from the inside.

    The environmental group had spent 4 1/2 years attacking Kimberly-Clark, the makers of Kleenex and Cottonelle toilet paper, for getting wood from old-growth forests in Canada. But the group said it is calling off the “Kleercut” campaign: Kimberly-Clark had agreed to make its practices greener.

    By 2011, the company said, 40 percent of the fiber in all its tissue products will come from recycled paper or sustainable forests.

    “We could have campaigned forever,” said Lindsey Allen, a senior forest campaigner with Greenpeace. But this was enough, she said, because Kimberly-Clark’s changes could alter the entire wood-pulp supply chain: “They have a policy that . . . will shift the entire way that tissue companies work.”

    Still, some environmental activists said that Greenpeace should have pushed for more.

    “The problem is not yet getting better,” said Chris Henschel, of the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society, talking about logging in Canada’s boreal forests. He said real change will come only when consumers change their habits: “It’s unbelievable that this global treasure of Canadian boreal forests is being turned into toilet paper. . . . I think every reasonable person would have trouble understanding how that would be okay.”

    That part could be difficult, because — in the U.S. market, at least — soft is to toilet paper what fat is to bacon, the essence of the appeal.

    Earlier this year, Consumer Reports tested toilet paper brands and found that recycled-tissue brands such as Seventh Generation and Marcal’s Small Steps weren’t unpleasant. But they gave their highest rating to the three-ply Quilted Northern.

    “We do believe that you’re going to feel a difference,” said Bob Markovich, an editor at Consumer Reports.

    Marcal, the maker of recycled toilet paper here in New Jersey, is trying to change that with a two-pronged sales pitch. The first is that soft is overrated.

    “Strength of toilet paper is more important, for obvious reasons,” said Spring, the chief executive, guiding a golf cart among the machinery that whizzes up vast stacks of old paper, whips it into a slurry, and dries it into rolls of toilet paper big enough for King Kong. He said his final product is as strong as any of the big-name brands. “If the paper breaks during your use of toilet paper, obviously, that’s very, very important.”

    The second half of the pitch is that Marcal’s toilet paper is almost as soft as the other guy’s anyway.

    “Handle it like you’re going to take care of business,” company manager Michael Bonin said, putting this reporter through a blind test of virgin vs. recycled toilet paper. Two rolls were hidden in a cardboard box: the test was to reach in without looking and wad them up, considering the “three aspects of softness,” which are surface smoothness, bulky feel and “drapability,” or lack of rigidity.

    The reporter wadded. The officials waited. The one on the right felt slightly softer.

    That was not the answer they wanted: The recycled paper was on the left.

  64. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good morning foxwood and VF.

  65. Foxwood says:

    Yeah, I remember the old John Wayne toilet paper.

    It was rough
    and tough
    and didn’t take crap off no one.

  66. VotingFemale says:

    Obutthole Sheep don’t wipe…

    you can tell who they are from the dingle-bama-berries on their hineys

  67. tellitlikeitis says:

    from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102×2644142

    OPORTO, Portugal (Reuters) – European Socialists promised on Thursday to work to rebuild Europe’s strategic alliance with the United States now that the Democrats control Congress after last month’s elections.

    Socialist leaders attending a meeting of the European Socialist Party pledged that with the Democrats on the rise, strong ties could be renewed with the United States after years of cool relations with Republican President George W. Bush.

    Howard Dean, chairman of the national committee of the U.S. Democratic Party, is attending the two-day conference together with the leaders of leftist governments of several countries and party leaders from across Europe.

    “We are not anti-American, we want the real America, your America,” former Danish Prime Minister Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, president of the European Socialist Party, said in remarks directed at Dean.

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  69. tellitlikeitis says:

    Obama sheeple do the poot scoot just like a dog.
    If they ban toiletpaper I guess we will have to go back to using corn cobs.

  70. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit, what is the link to that quote?

  71. m2 says:

    hi my trackback worked I see…. :)

  72. m2 says:

    sorry I can’t stay… will be home soon though!

  73. VotingFemale says:

    thanks Tellit… I just edited your prior comment and added the link to it… makes it easier for SamH when she posts comments at Friends…

    She has to have the reference link to go with it…

  74. VotingFemale says:

    YES IT DID! WEEEE!!!

    and I just did a trackback to your new blog post!

    tickle tickle

    m2 says

    hi my trackback worked I see…. :)

  75. VotingFemale says:

    trackbacking between blogs is known in the blogosphere as Linky Love

  76. Foxwood says:

    “dingle-bama-berries”?

    You must be a southern girl. I’ve only heard of dingle berries in the south.

    BTW do not eat.

  77. Foxwood says:

    VF, your bell didn’t wake Sami up.
    Neither did my Canon…

    I’m sending for the cavalry.

  78. VotingFemale says:

    I am a Native Born Texan, Foxwood… seen plenty of sheep butts…

    also, you all gotta see the newly added graphic at the top of:

    Watch School Children reciting The Pledge of Allegiance to Barack Hussein Obama and the Socialism For Which He Stands; UPDATE

    http://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/watch-nj-school-children-reciting-the-the-pledge-of-allegiance-to-barack-hussein-obama-and-the-socialism-for-which-he-stands/

  79. VotingFemale says:

    anyone think Israel will use a nuke on Iran’s nuke facility?

  80. samiam60 says:

    Good morning to all my Patriot friends. Sorry I am late but traffic was a bitch this morning.

  81. Foxwood says:

    I have mixrd feelings on that, VF. I would love to see it,, but I bet there are human sheilds, there.

  82. samiam60 says:

    Iran declaring they have a second nuclear facility sounds like a Weapons of Mass Destruction type of a trap to me. Maybe trying to lure Israel into action only to find there is no other facility.

  83. samiam60 says:

    Israel must act soon being that Obama has broad sided them at the UN. The US has always been there for Israel and encourage restraint. Not so much anymore. I think Obama wants them to go it alone and then make them out to be the bad guys.

  84. VotingFemale says:

    The Pledge of Allegiance to Barack Hussein Obama

    mmm mmm mm

    “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Barack Hussein Obama, and to the Socialism for which it stands, one nation, under Him, with Money and Power for None.”

  85. VotingFemale says:

    Foxwood, looks like your nuclear powered alarm clock worked on Samiam!

    Good Morning Samiam! You sleepy head! :D

  86. tellitlikeitis says:

    Israel will have no choice but to strike Iran’s nuke facilities. The sad part is they will have to go it alone because the kenyan muslim president will not support them. Israel is like a lone diver in the ocean surrounded by sharks. They are on their own and they know it.

  87. VotingFemale says:

    Isreal will be rejoined by the USA after this Socialist Mongrel and his Congressional Flunkies are removed from office in 2010/2012 if they don’t get impeached before that.

  88. samiam60 says:

    Yah, my neighbor gave me a bottle of old whiskey the other day and another one last nite.
    My night cap turned into a sod-fest of drunken debothcury that I would deny in a court of law.

  89. Foxwood says:

    This is looking Biblical…

  90. samiam60 says:

    Israel has God to go before them and they know they don’t need us. In fact now that Obama has turned on them they’re Faith in God will become stronger as they depend on Him instead of US.

  91. VotingFemale says:

    Obutthole is taking a page from Russia’s book…

    will allow a situation in Iran to develop which forces Israel to attack, then turn on Israel and take Iran’s side.

  92. LisaInTX says:

    Morning everyone!!
    I can only say, that Obama, along with all the Nationalist-Marxists aka socialist, have been changing OUR history for decades, so what the hell do these other countries expect???? Welcome to OUR SCREWED UP world!!!

    Commenting on Obama’s speech during a WND interview today, Tzipi Hotovely, a Knesset member for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, accused the U.S. president of “misrepresenting history.”

    “Obama is misrepresenting Mideast history,” she said. “The Jewish people’s right to live in Judea and Samaria is firstly rooted in the Bible and God’s promise 2,000 years before 1967.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110896

  93. VotingFemale says:

    Israel has always known the presidency and congress flip into Liberal Mode from time to time… the Liberals have always taken the side of Israel’s enemies.

    But this time it is not a Liberal swing… it is a hard left Marxist swing…

    whole different ball game

  94. samiam60 says:

    And the Nation’s of the World shall gather around my people Israel to wage war.

    The Blood in the Eufrahties river shall run knee deep.

  95. tellitlikeitis says:

    Everytime I think that we have to put up with this naive moron in the whitehouse for another 3 years my stomach churns and I have to look for some place to throw up. It’s going to take more than God to help us survive this stupid fool.

  96. samiam60 says:

    I cannot seem to spell this morning. :(

  97. LisaInTX says:

    I agree this looks to be biblical!! I have faith though that God will protect Israel even without our commie in chief’s ‘blessings’……

  98. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning, Lisa!

    The Socialists’ penchant for Historical ‘Revisionism’ is well known and well documented…

    school books have been re-written by Academic Socialists and are in the classrooms across the nation.

    LisaInTX says

    Morning everyone!!
    I can only say, that Obama, along with all the Nationalist-Marxists aka socialist, have been changing OUR history for decades, so what the hell do these other countries expect???? Welcome to OUR SCREWED UP world!!!

    Commenting on Obama’s speech during a WND interview today, Tzipi Hotovely, a Knesset member for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, accused the U.S. president of “misrepresenting history.”

    “Obama is misrepresenting Mideast history,” she said. “The Jewish people’s right to live in Judea and Samaria is firstly rooted in the Bible and God’s promise 2,000 years before 1967.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110896

  99. LisaInTX says:

    I LOVED the new rhymes to the indoctrination song!!! LMAO–hahahaaaa

  100. samiam60 says:

    Israel will become a cup of Trembling for the whole world.

  101. VotingFemale says:

    from: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/david-irving-and-the-banality-of-revisionism/

    David Irving and the Banality of Revisionism

    A newspaper interview reveals that the notorious Holocaust revisionist’s views are now part of the European mainstream.

    September 11, 2009 – by John Rosenthal

    The decision of the Spanish daily El Mundo to publish an interview with revisionist historian David Irving has sparked controversy and drawn condemnations from the Israeli ambassador to Spain, Jewish organizations like the American Jewish Committee and the Anti-Defamation League, and Spain’s own foreign minister.

    Oddly enough, however, amidst all the controversy, little has been said about the actual content of the interview. It is as if the public did not even have the right to know of what Irving’s revisionism consists. And yet consideration of Irving’s declarations to El Mundo reveals just how mainstream the central tenet of his revisionism has become in contemporary Europe.

    The Irving interview appeared in the Saturday edition of the paper as part of a series of interviews with historians on the Second World War. Almost all the English-language reports on the controversy identify Irving as a “Holocaust denier.” But the actual content of the interview clearly shows that Irving does not today deny that the Holocaust occurred, but rather seeks to minimize its significance by asserting that the Allies committed crimes analogous to those committed by Nazi Germany. He is, more precisely, a “Holocaust relativizer,” not a “Holocaust denier.”

    Thus when asked by Eduardo Suárez of El Mundo whether on his account Hitler, Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, and Truman “were all equally bad,” Irving responded as follows:

    Of course. All of them had absolutely no respect for human life. The real crime of the Second World War was not genocide, but what I call “innocentocide.” The killing of innocent persons. The killing of the Jews is not a crime because they were Jews, but rather because they were innocent Jews. But the Jews don’t want to hear this, because as a result the Holocaust ceases to be something special.

    As discussed in my PJM reports on President Obama’s June visit to Dresden (see here and here), in at least one European country such “Holocaust relativization” has become entirely commonplace: namely, in Germany. This is why Obama’s visit to Dresden was so symbolically loaded, since for the German public, the city of Dresden itself is the symbol of “innocent” German suffering at the hands of the Allies.

    As it happens, David Irving’s first book was on precisely The Destruction of Dresden. The book was published in 1963, long before Irving had ever been accused of Holocaust denial. When asked by Eduardo Suárez whether he was placing Churchill and Hitler “on the same plane,” Irving returned to the topic of Dresden. “I’ve seen Churchill’s papers,” he said,

    And I remember what he told the officers who in spring 1944 were planning the invasion of France. The generals told him that many people would die and he replied, “How many?” And they told him: “Around 10,000.” And Churchill said: “It’s okay. That’s the price.” For Churchill human life was irrelevant. Or consider the calculated brutality of the bombing of Dresden.

    By visiting not only Dresden, but Dresden and Buchenwald, Obama, in effect, provided a symbolic endorsement of the central thesis of David Irving’s life work. (Although a fitting symbol of Nazi crimes in general, Buchenwald was not in fact one of the principal sites of the Shoah. Out of a mix of ignorance and political expediency, however, it was stylized into such by the Obama administration. See my “Obama Flunks History, Again.” –> http://www.newmajority.com/obama-flunks-history-again )

    In his El Mundo interview, Irving makes little effort to conceal his anti-Semitism. Asked point blank whether he is an anti-Semite, he replies: “I try not to be one, but believe me it’s not easy.” À la Norman Finkelstein’s The Holocaust Industry, he accuses “the Jews” of having converted the Holocaust into a “trademark” and having “made millions” on it.

    While clearly accepting the historical veracity of the events comprising the Holocaust, Irving attempts to shield Hitler from direct responsibility for them. On his account, the real author of the Holocaust was Himmler. “Hitler was the head of state and as such responsible for what happened,” he tells Suárez. “But one can be both responsible and ignorant. Hitler was a simple man who was constantly being deceived by his subordinates.”

    Irving’s open admiration for Hitler obviously puts him well outside of the contemporary European mainstream. (“I admire him because he persevered,” Irving says, “in the same sense that I admire Hillary Clinton. …”) But Americans and even many Europeans would be surprised how little one has to scratch the surface of the mainstream to arrive at similar views.

    Consider the case of Manfred Nowak, the Austrian law professor and UN special rapporteur on torture who has called for criminal prosecutions of Bush administration officials. Nowak’s acknowledged intellectual mentor was one Felix Ermacora, himself a long-time member of the UN Human Rights Commission. Ermacora was a notorious revisionist who openly accused the Allies of having committed genocide against Germans. Not surprisingly, he was also a fan of David Irving. In a glowing 1984 review of Irving’s Hitler’s War, Ermacora praised the author for, among other things, “try[ing] to free our image of Adolf Hitler from the clichés that have attached to it in the course of the last 60 years.” (For the details, see my “The Road to Condemning Guantanamo.” –> http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.869/article_detail.asp )

    El Mundo is the leading “center-right” daily in Spain: the main rival of the daily El País, which has long served as a kind of organ of Spain’s ruling Socialist party. Via a spokesperson, Spain’s Foreign Minister Miguel Ángel Moratinos criticized El Mundo for giving space to a “historian who denies one of the greatest tragedies in modern history.” “These sorts of statements profoundly hurt the feelings of the Jewish people,” Moratinos added.

    If Moratinos’s name sounds familiar, it might be because in 2002 as EU Middle East envoy, he sent his security advisor, Alistair Crook, to Cairo to facilitate talks between Hamas and Fatah. The anti-Semitism and negationism that are rampant in both organizations were apparently no obstacle to him in this connection. At the time, moreover, the bombs of Hamas and the Fatah-affiliated Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades were, of course, regularly hurting more than “Jewish feelings”: they were killing and maiming Jews.

  102. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    This is so scary. We have so many troops located along that river and the Tigris as well. God watch over and protect them!

    Samiam says “And the Nation’s of the World shall gather around my people Israel to wage war.

    The Blood in the Eufrahties river shall run knee deep.”

  103. samiam60 says:

    I didn’t mean to scare you Lisa, I was quoting Bible Prophesy which seems to be coming close to reality.

  104. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    Chavez is doing the EXACT same thing by saying that American’s have committed horrible crimes in Iraq….that WE are just as ‘evil’ as Hussein…….
    What that IDIOT is not saying is that WE are NOT there to RULE that country nor do we have that intention….unlike all those that Chavez and Castro have murdered in order to maintain their EVIL empowers!!

  105. VotingFemale says:

    Lisa, try not to worry, sweetie pie…

    God is watching..

  106. tellitlikeitis says:

    Good Morning Lisa.

  107. VotingFemale says:

    Chavez is a Tin Hat Socialist Dictator of a third world country…

    of course he is going to spout crap like that…
    and it will get him in good with Obama and the Socialists…

    But there is this little problem… the majority of America which is main stream.

    and we are awake… and filled with a terrible resolve… that these Socialist Snakes will be put back in the rock piles from which they slither…

    LisaInTX says
    VF
    Chavez is doing the EXACT same thing by saying that American’s have committed horrible crimes in Iraq….that WE are just as ‘evil’ as Hussein…….
    What that IDIOT is not saying is that WE are NOT there to RULE that country nor do we have that intention….unlike all those that Chavez and Castro have murdered in order to maintain their EVIL empires!!

  108. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    I hear ya….I can’t help but be fearful now. It took Obama only 9 mths to destroy decades of alliances and credibility in Europe…..Obama has betrayed not only our nation, but also our allies and has endangered our troops over there even more.
    I’m truly freaking the HELL out!!!
    I want them ALL HOME NOW!!!! Or Obama impeached—-which ever comes first, don’t care at this point.

  109. VotingFemale says:

    Lisa, dont freak out…

    blog your butt off…

  110. VotingFemale says:

    check this out…

    http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/?p=1225

    title: An Old Claim Arises Once More: Did Barack Obama Write ‘Dreams From My Father’?

    word has it, Bill Ayers was the ghost writer of Obama’s book…

  111. tellitlikeitis says:

    Administration Will Cut Border Patrol Deployed on U.S-Mexico Border
    Thursday, September 24, 2009
    By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief

    (CNSNews.com) – Even though the Border Patrol now reports that almost 1,300 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border is not under effective control, and the Department of Justice says that vast stretches of the border are “easily breached,” and the Government Accountability Office has revealed that three persons “linked to terrorism” and 530 aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints last year, the administration is nonetheless now planning to decrease the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Border Patrol Director of Media Relations Lloyd Easterling confirmed this week–as I first reported in my column yesterday–that his agency is planning for a net decrease of 384 agents on the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal 2010, which begins on October 1.

    A Department of Homeland Security annual performance review updated by the Obama administration on May 7 said the Border Patrol “plans to move several hundred Agents from the Southwest Border to the Northern Border to meet the FY 2010 staffing requirements, with only a small increase in new agents for the Southwest Border in the same year.”

    Easterling said on Tuesday that in fiscal 2009, 17,399 Border Patrol agents have been deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border. In fiscal year 2010, the Border Patrol plans to decrease that by 384 agents, leaving 17,015 deployed along the Mexican frontier. At the same time, the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Canada border will be increased by 414, from a fiscal 2009 total of 1,798 agents to a fiscal 2010 total of 2,212.

    The Border Patrol is responsible for securing a total of 8,607 miles of border, including the U.S.-Mexico border, the U.S.-Canada border from Washington state to Maine, and sectors of coastline in the Gulf of Mexico, Florida, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

    Each year, the Border Patrol sets a goal for “border miles under effective control (including certain coastal sectors).” “Effective control,” as defined by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, means that when the Border Patrol detects an illegal border crosser in a particular area of the border the agency can be expected to succeed in apprehending that person.

    In the May 7 update of its performance review, DHS said the Border Patrol’s goal for fiscal 2009 was to have 815 of the 8,607 miles of border for which the agency is responsible under “effective control.” The review also said the Border Patrol’s goal for fiscal 2010 was to again have 815 miles of border under “effective control,” meaning DHS was not planning to secure a single additional mile of border in the coming year.

    However, Acting Deputy Assistant Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Todd Owen told a House committee in July that the Border Patrol already had 894 miles of border under effective control as of May 31 of this year. These 894 miles, Owen said, included 697 miles on the Mexican border, 32 miles on the Canadian border and 165 miles in the coastal sectors.

    Easterling said this week that as of now the Border Patrol still has the same 894 miles of border under effective control that it had under effective control as of May 31. He also said the agency would not relinquish control of any of these miles in the coming year. After the beginning of the new fiscal year, he said, the Border Patrol would reevaluate the situation and set a new goal for border miles under “effective control” for 2010 that would at least equal, and might exceed, the 894 miles currently under effective control.

    “The intention is to take back the border incrementally, and make gains that we can keep,” Easterling said. “We do not intend, nor will we give back, miles that we have gained control over.”

    Easterling said the Border Patrol would be able to maintain the current number of miles under effective control on the Mexico border with fewer agents deployed there thanks to “force multipliers,” including new fencing, roads and other infrastructure that has been built in recent years. He also cited the assistance the Border Patrol receives from local police and sheriffs departments and community watch groups.

    But even if the Border Patrol is able to maintain or marginally improve on the current level of security on the U.S.-Mexico border, most of the border will remain effectively open to smuggling both contraband and persons.

    The entire U.S.-Mexico border is 1,954 miles long, according to the International Boundary and Water Commission. While 697 of those miles are now under “effective control,” according to the Border Patrol, 1,257 miles are not under “effective control.”

    Reports from other government agencies paint a vivid picture of the massive drug and alien smuggling that takes place in these uncontrolled expanses and the national security problem created by unsecured border lands.

    Each year, the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center produces “drug market analyses” for each of 32 regions of the country that the NDIC describes as “high intensity drug trafficking areas.” Five of these areas sit along the U.S.-Mexico border. These include the California border region, Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas and South Texas. The latest reports, released in March and April of this year, use candid language in portraying the U.S.-Mexican frontier as wide open to drug smuggling and even vulnerable to penetration by potential terrorists.

    The California-Mexico border, the NDIC said, was “easily breached” on both foot and in vehicles.

    “The vast border area presents innumerable remote crossing points that traffickers exploit to smuggle illicit drugs, primarily marijuana, into the country from Mexico,” said NDIC. “These areas are easily breached by traffickers on foot, in private vehicles, or in all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) as they smuggle drugs between POEs [ports of entry], particularly the mountainous areas in eastern San Diego County and the desert and sand dune areas in Imperial County.”

    Arizona’s border was judged to be open not only to drug smugglers but also aliens with “extensive criminal records” and from “special interest countries,” which are defined as “countries that could export individuals who could bring harm to the United States through terrorism.”

    “Some criminal organizations smuggle aliens and gang members into the United States,” said NDIC’s report on Arizona. “These particular individuals typically have extensive criminal records and pose a threat, not only to the Arizona HIDTA [high intensity drug trafficking area] region but also to communities throughout the United States. Alien smuggling organizations reportedly also smuggle aliens from countries other than Mexico, including special-interest countries.”

    “Special-interest countries are those designated by the intelligence community as countries that could export individuals who could bring harm to the United States through terrorism,” said the NDIC report.

    The NDIC described the Arizona-Mexico border as “largely underprotected” in the areas between official ports of entry.

    “Large amounts of illicit drugs are smuggled into the area from Mexico, and bulk cash is transported from the area into Mexico,” said NDIC. “These trafficking activities are facilitated by several factors unique to the region, including the continuing economic and population growth in Arizona’s two primary drug markets (Phoenix and Tucson), the highways that connect major metropolitan areas in Arizona with major illicit drug source areas in Mexico, and a remote, largely underprotected border area between Arizona’s ports of entry (POEs).

    “Vast stretches of remote, sparsely populated border areas are located within the HIDTA region; these areas are especially conducive to large-scale drug smuggling,” said NDIC. “By the end of January 2009, 108 miles of the 262-mile shared border between Arizona and Mexico will have some type of fencing. However, few physical barriers exist in border areas between POEs, particularly in the West Desert area of the U.S. Border Patrol (USBP) Tucson Sector, to impede drug traffickers, chiefly Mexican DTOs, from smuggling illicit drug shipments into the United States from Mexico.”

    Part of the New Mexico border was described as “an ideal smuggling corridor.”

    “Southwestern New Mexico—specifically Hidalgo, Luna, and Dona Ana Counties—shares a 180-mile border with Mexico,” said NDIC. “More than half the length of this border is desolate public land that contains innumerable footpaths, roads, and trails. Additionally, many ranches are located along the border. These factors and minimal law enforcement coverage make the area an ideal smuggling corridor for drugs and other illicit goods and services— primarily alien smuggling into the United States and weapons and bulk cash smuggling into Mexico. Mexican DTOs smuggle multihundred-kilogram quantities of illicit drugs through this portion of the HIDTA region annually.”

    Like the California border, the South Texas border is also “easily breached,” according to the NDIC.

    “The combination of vast stretches of remote, sparsely populated land and extensive crossborder economic activity at designated ports of entry (POEs) creates an environment conducive to large-scale drug smuggling,” said NDIC. “Few physical barriers exist between POEs to impede drug traffickers, particularly Mexican DTOs, from smuggling illicit drug shipments into the United States from Mexico. Along many areas of the U.S.-Mexico border in South Texas, the Rio Grande River can be easily breached by smugglers on foot or in vehicles, enabling Mexican DTOs to smuggle multikilogram quantities of illicit drugs, primarily marijuana and cocaine, into the United States.”

    In the West Texas sector, the NDIC again raised the possibility that terrorists could exploit the border to enter the country.

    “Moreover, the region’s location along the U.S.-Mexico border poses national security and law enforcement issues for the region, such as alien smuggling, weapons transportation, and terrorist entry into the United States through and between ports of entry,” said NDIC.

    While the U.S. government may be failing to exert effective control over most of the border, identical language in the NDIC reports for Arizona and West Texas said that drug trafficking organizations have set up “gatekeeper” operations that control smuggling into the U.S. and levy taxes on the smugglers they let through.

    “Gatekeepers regulate the drug flow from Mexico across the U.S.-Mexico border into the United States by controlling drug smugglers’ access to areas along the border,” said the Arizona and West Texas NDIC reports. “Gatekeepers collect ‘taxes’ from smugglers on all illicit shipments that are moved through these areas, including drugs and illegal aliens. The taxes are generally paid to the DTO that controls the area; the DTO then launders the tax proceeds. Gatekeepers sometimes resort to extortion, intimidation, and acts of violence to collect taxes from smugglers. Gatekeepers also reportedly bribe corrupt Mexican police and military personnel in order to ensure that smuggling activities occur without interruption.”

    “Gatekeepers generally operate at the behest of a Mexican drug trafficking organization (DTO) and enforce the will of the organization through bribery, intimidation, extortion, beatings, and murder,” said the reports.

    A Government Accountability Office report released on August 31 pointed out that the Border Patrol’s top priority is to stop terrorists and weapons of mass destruction from entering the United States and revealed that three person’s “linked to terrorism” and hundreds of aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints in fiscal 2008. These checkpoints, which act as a final line of defense for the U.S. border, are typically set up on highways 25 to 100 miles north of the Mexican border.

    “CBP reported that in fiscal year 2008, there were three individuals encountered by the Border Patrol at southwest border checkpoints who were identified as persons linked to terrorism,” said GAO.

    “In addition, the Border Patrol reported that in fiscal year 2008 checkpoints encountered 530 aliens from special interest countries, which are countries the Department of State has determined to represent a potential terrorist threat to the United States,” said GAO. “While people from these countries may not have any ties to illegal or terrorist activities, Border Patrol agents detain aliens from special interest countries if they are in the United States illegally and Border Patrol agents report these encounters to the local Sector Intelligence Agent, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Joint Terrorism Task Force, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Office of Investigations, and the CBP National Targeting Center.”

    The GAO also said one illegal alien detained in West Texas had come from Iran.

    “For example,” said GAO, “according to a Border Patrol official in the El Paso sector, a checkpoint stopped a vehicle and questioned its three Iranian occupants, determining that one of those occupants was in the United States illegally. The individual was detained and turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement for further questioning.”

    There has been much discussion in the past week about whether President Barack Obama will heed the advice of Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, to increase the U.S. troop deployment there. The administration, however, has already decided to decrease by 384 the Border Patrol agents deployed on our own southern frontier.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54514

  112. VotingFemale says:

    Acorn Stings… I thought you all would enjoy a bit of humor!

    excerpts from: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/acorn-stings-the-untold-story/

    Here are their results:

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles, along with a Pekingese and a Chihuahua dressed up as pit bulls, approached an ACORN office for advice on getting a place large enough to house a dogfighting ring. They also asked if the community would be likely to call the cops on them if they started stealing puppies from children.

    The Result: The staffer seemed unfazed and only asked if they’d be willing to pass out literature on Democratic candidates during their exhibitions.

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles dressed up as hardened drug dealers and contacted an ACORN office for help finding a place to set up a meth lab. They also specified that they wanted it to be near an elementary school so they wouldn’t have to travel far for sales.

    The Result: They were turned away, and the ACORN employee told them ACORN had already helped set up numerous meth labs near the elementary schools and the community just couldn’t support any more competition in that area.

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles dressed up as Charles Manson and Squeaky Fromme and asked for help finding a place where they wouldn’t have to worry about anyone hearing screams from the basement.

    The Result: They were advised to not list their occupation as “psychotic killers intent on causing apocalyptic race war” and instead use “performance artists.”

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles dressed up as the Joker and Catwoman and inquired at an ACORN office about help purchasing a base of operations from which they could plot to kill Batman.

    The Result: The staffer was very happy to help stop a vigilante from beating up criminals, since most of their federal funds are designated for criminals.

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles dressed up as Cobra Commander and the Baroness and pretended to want help with their paramilitary organization intent on conquering the world.

    The Result: They were turned away after being told that ACORN was not currently helping violent radicals intent on overthrowing the government and to try again when a Republican is president.

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles dressed up as Darth Vader and an Imperial Guard and approached an ACORN office for help hunting down Jedi and promoting the authority of the Empire throughout the galaxy.

    The Result: At first, the ACORN staffer was unsure about supporting an evil galactic empire but changed her mind when she was assured the empire would support universal health care. She then shared a story of how she once killed a Jedi.

    NOTE: Police looked into the claim and found that the staffer had never in fact killed a Jedi. The staffer later said she was intimidated by O’Keefe’s supposed control of the Dark Side of the Force and thus made up the story.

    The Sting: O’Keefe and Giles dressed up as space aliens and asked ACORN for help getting the public’s obedience in exchange for advanced alien technology. They sheepishly admitted that the book they brought with them, To Serve Man, is actually a cookbook and that they ultimately planned to use humanity as a food source.

    The Result: The staffer told them that ACORN is very experienced at getting people to accept something that seems beneficial but is ultimately harmful to the nation in the long run, pointing to their success in registering people to vote for Obama.

    President Obama was asked whether he was concerned that, through ACORN, federal funds could go towards the enslavement and consumption of humanity, but he said that was “not the biggest issue facing the country.” Certainly not when there are still tonsil-craving doctors out there.

  113. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    I’m trying hard not to loose it! I am merely one American mom with a son serving over there—-I bet they are freaking out too!!

    I am totally dismayed and outraged at this latest betrayal….what the F—!!!!
    Has the man no common decency at all???
    2010 can’t come soon enough for me…..God help us make it til then….

  114. samiam60 says:

    Be at Peace Lisa, your prayers of safety are answered.

    Of this I am sure dear.

  115. samiam60 says:

    There will be 3 1/2 years of peace and safety before that terrible day arrives.

  116. VotingFemale says:

    I thought you all would enjoy a bit of humor!

  117. VotingFemale says:

    Lisa… be strong, adapt, make the Socialists stress out.

  118. Foxwood says:

    “that these Socialist Snakes will be put back in the rock piles from which they slither…”

    you kill snakes tho…

  119. VotingFemale says:

    to deny a Socialist Snake any power, is death to socialism.

    they are free to think what they want… just as we are…

    god created the serpent… and it has a place in the grand scheme of things…

    I dont kill snakes… I make their existence a hard one to live.

    Foxwood says

    “that these Socialist Snakes will be put back in the rock piles from which they slither…”

    you kill snakes tho…

  120. VotingFemale says:

    Sarah Palin makes the slithering snakes life a nightmare…

    they are scared to death of her power… that is why they attacked her so viciously… as the snakes they are.

  121. VotingFemale says:

    Had McCain been a better candidate for president… Obama would be a memory of the election

    Sarah was the power the socialists were afraid of…

  122. samiam60 says:

    Sarah freaks the liberals out. She truly does. Remember this: shortly after she was announced as McCain’s running mate, a member of the liberal media was quoted as saying, “This woman’s trouble.”

    The liberals hate her with a passion because they know that she is the only one who can unseat Obama. They saw it in her from the moment she walked onto the national stage. We’ve seen it in her.

  123. VotingFemale says:

    from a blog on the web… http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-acorn-a-love-story/

    Obama’s playing dumb about ACORN is disingenuous in the extreme. His longstanding activist, political, and financial connections to the group, as Stanley Kurtz showed prior to the presidential election, are wide and deep. Indeed, they constitute his most significant and enduring tie to the anti-capitalist and revolutionary “New Left” movement of the 1960s.

    Sol Stern writes that ACORN sprang from “one of this movement’s silliest and most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization.” The NWRO’s strategy was to eliminate welfare requirements and overwhelm welfare offices with clients, simultaneously staging disruptions and sit-ins, in order to bring about “a radical reconstruction of America’s unjust capitalist economy.”

    Obama could have only been buying into this vision by intimately allying himself with ACORN and its ilk over the years.

    In his pre-law school years as a community organizer in Chicago, Obama was brought into ACORN’s orbit by the group’s city leader Madeleine Talbot, who recruited him into training her own staff. Though some years after Obama’s early organizing work, it was Talbot who masterminded a display of what radicals term “direct action”: she and her fellow activists stormed a session of the Chicago City Council, preventing participants from entering the session. Afterward, taken off in handcuffs and charged with disorderly conduct and mob action, she stoutly defended the organization’s strong-arm tactics.

  124. Foxwood says:

    I don’t advocate killing anyone, but I kill Cotton Mouth every time I see them. They live too close to home.

  125. samiam60 says:

    Front Page news: Obama says Iran is breaking the rules!

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, we could have told you that years ago you DINGBAT

  126. VotingFemale says:

    Good News!!!!

    http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/IKR2QE/WKDI3/GE89I2/WODN9J/CKG06/28/h

    Democrats Are Jarred by Drop In Fundraising
    Complacency, Absence of Big Donors Cited

    By Paul Kane
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 25, 2009

    Democratic political committees have seen a decline in their fundraising fortunes this year, a result of complacency among their rank-and-file donors and a de facto boycott by many of their wealthiest givers, who have been put off by the party’s harsh rhetoric about big business.

    The trend is a marked reversal from recent history, in which Democrats have erased the GOP’s long-standing fundraising advantage. In the first six months of 2009, Democratic campaign committees’ receipts have dropped compared with the same period two years earlier.

    The vast majority of those declines were accounted for by the absence of large donors who, strategists say, have shut their checkbooks in part because Democrats have heightened their attacks on the conduct of major financial firms and set their sights on rewriting the laws that regulate their behavior.

    As the battle over President Obama’s effort to overhaul the health-care system reached a fever pitch this summer, the three national Republican committees combined to bring in $1.7 million more than their Democratic counterparts in August. The pair of Democratic committees tasked with raising money for House and Senate candidates — and doing so at a time when the party holds its strongest position on Capitol Hill in a generation — have watched their receipts plummet by a combined 20 percent with little more than a year to go before the November 2010 midterm elections.

    Large-scale defeats in the midterms could be a crippling blow to the ambitious agenda mapped out by Obama’s top advisers, particularly if they happen in the Senate, where Democrats caucus with a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority. The party will have to work furiously to defend at least six Senate seats and as many as 40 in the House, including many snatched from Republicans.

    “If they take them back, this is the end of the road for what Barack and I are trying to do,” Vice President Biden said Monday at a fundraiser for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), whose district was held by a Republican for more than two decades before her 2006 victory.

    Democrats said a struggling economy is only partly to blame for the poor fundraising performance and acknowledged a more perilous problem: satisfaction among activists that the party now holds the White House, 60 votes in the Senate and 60 percent of the House.

    “There was a little sense of complacency that set in despite our best efforts to warn people,” said Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. “We made it very clear: Beware.”

    Democrats had watched the party’s campaign committees rake in increasing amounts of money throughout this decade, culminating in the 2007-2008 election cycle, when their congressional committees raised a combined $125 million more than their GOP counterparts. They used that financial edge to boost their candidates with seven- and sometimes eight-figure advertising budgets, often using that money to run negative ads that candidates shy away from airing.

    Now there are signs that such advantages may not be there next year.

    The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee was considered the party’s best-run organization as it oversaw pickups of 14 Republican seats in 2006 and 2008. But through August, the DSCC had raised just $27.5 million, a drop of more than 25 percent, or $9.2 million, from the same point two years ago. While donations from special interest political action committees have increased, individual donors are disappearing at a rate that has alarmed party leaders: The DSCC’s contributions from individuals was $18.5 million through August, a drop of $12.6 million, or nearly 40 percent, from two years earlier, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.

    A midyear analysis by the FEC showed that the DSCC declines at that stage had come entirely from individuals who gave $10,000 or more, a small slice of overall contributors but a group that traditionally provides about half the committee’s fundraising total. Through June, those individual donors’ contributions had declined by more than 50 percent from 2007. The committee is running 12 percent behind its 2005 pace among large donors.

    Orin Kramer, the head of a private investment management company in New Jersey, said there has been a mutual belief among those collecting checks and those writing them that now is the time for deep-pocketed people involved in business and finance to steer clear of the political arena. “If there’s been a point in time since Teddy Roosevelt when an administration cannot afford to be perceived as being manipulated by the financial community, it’s now. There’s an understandable sensitivity, because it’s critical to avoid any sense that Wall Street has been empowered,” said Kramer, a longtime fundraiser for Senate Democrats and one of Obama’s earliest financial backers.

    Other Democrats and their aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal party strategy, said that rhetoric toward big business has grown so antagonistic that it has become increasingly difficult to raise money on Wall Street, particularly after the controversy about bonuses and executive compensation. The DSCC has also established a rule that forbids accepting donations from the handful of financial firms that received money from the Troubled Assets Relief Program, the $700 billion bailout effort approved last fall, and have not yet repaid the government.

    Democrats continue to collect more from big donors than Republicans do, with their trio of national committees almost tripling the amount taken in by the GOP committees in first half of the year, according to the FEC. But Republicans are benefiting from much more energized small-dollar contributors.

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee, which has been pitching itself to conservative donors as the only check against Obama’s agenda, has stayed roughly even with the DSCC in overall receipts, and its cash flow is 30 percent ahead of its 2007 level.

    Democrats remain optimistic that they will have the resources needed to wage a forceful campaign next fall, particularly in most of the six seats that are being vacated by retiring GOP senators.

    “The further we get into the cycle, the clearer it becomes that we will have more than enough funds to run competitive campaigns in each of our targeted races,” said Eric Schultz, a DSCC spokesman. “In fact, every day that Republicans wash their hands of any responsibility to deal with the economy and the health-care crisis, our supporters grow more and more motivated to help us.”

    Some Democrats characterized the fundraising bonanza they experienced during the 2008 election cycle as an anomaly, saying Obama’s campaign — which shattered records by raising more than $700 million — brought so many new donors to the party fold that some contributors have understandably drifted away without the charismatic candidate at the top of the ticket in 2010. They also said a busy fall fundraising season for the president and vice president began in earnest last week with Obama’s trip to Philadelphia, which raised $2.5 million split between Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) and the DSCC, and Biden’s fundraising work for House members.

    However, the need for cash is more urgent than it has been in recent cycles, when Democrats had few vulnerable senators facing reelection. In 2010, the DSCC must defend seats in some of the nation’s most expensive media markets — New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver and Las Vegas — before it can even think of going after GOP-held seats.
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    House Democrats have seen donations to the DCCC drop 16 percent, with individual contributions more than 25 percent off their 2007 pace. But party leaders saw a 50 percent increase in small-dollar donations in August, after what they hope was a wake-up call to liberals who watched endless cable news footage of conservative protesters dominating town hall meetings.

    “Our supporters around the country realized they have a fight on their hands,” Van Hollen said. “People are rallying.”

  127. LisaInTX says:

    Supercilious has also issued a “gag” order to those companies that participate in Medicare telling them to NOT send out statements to people explaining how the Nobama care will affect them.

  128. Foxwood says:

    I’m making a list of indoctrination vids. Tellit, can you post that one you’ve posted before? The boys marching in the gym. I can’t find that one.

  129. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit
    Good morning….I’m fired up!!! And Nobama can sure be thanked for that!!!! the marxist demi-god from hell

  130. VotingFemale says:

    I saw that… and where is it written that the Insurance companies have to abide that gag order?

    she is not a court…

    LisaInTX says

    Supercilious has also issued a “gag” order to those companies that participate in Medicare telling them to NOT send out statements to people explaining how the Nobama care will affect them.

  131. VotingFemale says:

    yeah Al Gored

    shove global warming up your ass!

    hahahahahahaha

  132. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    Thanks, I know I must be strong, but that still does not keep me from being furious over this stuff….my son is in harms way and we have a total LEFT-wingNut PSYCHO in the whitehouse…..holy shit batman!!!
    I’m getting closer and closer to the resolve for Texas to secede from this farce of a union…..we have just as much right to be independent and free as Taiwan……

  133. samiam60 says:

    Lisa you make me want to move to Texas and fight along side all of you folks.

  134. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    They are all-knowing demi-gods that are ‘enlightened’ and were are stupid astroturf and know not what we do……the audacity of their arrogance makes me blow chunks!!

  135. Foxwood says:

    “shove global warming up your ass!”

    But that’s were it came from…

  136. VotingFemale says:

    Sarah Palin also has a son in harm’s way… and she is working to do something about the ASSHAT-In-Chief for her son and your son and all our sons and daughters in harm’s way.

    Obama and the Socialists are going down… just not soon enough to suit any of us… we have to work within the system to do it.

    LisaInTX says

    Sami
    Thanks, I know I must be strong, but that still does not keep me from being furious over this stuff….my son is in harms way and we have a total LEFT-wingNut PSYCHO in the whitehouse…..holy shit batman!!!
    I’m getting closer and closer to the resolve for Texas to secede from this farce of a union…..we have just as much right to be independent and free as Taiwan……

  137. tellitlikeitis says:

    Hi Lisa! Me too! The stupid socialist fool makes me physically ill. I have been taking prilosec since the election to keep my stomach settled.

  138. LisaInTX says:

    This one is a tribute to Beck and the death of the rubber frog!

  139. Foxwood says:

    prilosec?

    Isn’t that for asshole reflux disease?

  140. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood , Dou you mean this one?

  141. VotingFemale says:

    We use their rules to defeat them, Lisa…

    Alinsky Rule #8: Never let up

  142. Foxwood says:

    That’s it Tellit.

    ok, i got it.

  143. LisaInTX says:

    Sami and Tellit
    Here is my playlist on youTube about Texas rights

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3E2B700E8BA1DE34

  144. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    I hear ya girlfriend…..maybe I’ll do a blog about a bullfrog….hahahhaaaaa ;-}

  145. VotingFemale says:

    From Ole Saul Alinsky

    Always remember the first rule of
    power tactics: Power is not only what
    you have but what the enemy thinks you
    have.

    Second: Never go outside the
    experience of your people. When an
    action is outside the experience of the
    people, the result is confusion, fear, and
    retreat. Wherever possible go outside of the
    experience of the enemy. Here you want
    to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

    The fourth rule is: Make the enemy
    live up to their own book of rules. You
    can kill them with this, for they can no
    more obey their own rules than the
    Christian church can live up to
    Christianity.

    The fourth rule carries
    within it the fifth rule:
    Ridicule is man’s most
    potent weapon. It is almost
    impossible to counterattack
    ridicule. Also it infuriates
    the opposition, who then
    react to your advantage.

    Sixth rule: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball
    doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain
    militant interest in any issue for only a
    limited time, after which it becomes a
    ritualistic commitment.

    Keep the pressure on, with different
    tactics and actions, and utilize all events
    of the period for your purpose.
    The threat is usually more terrifying
    than the thing itself.
    The major premise for tactics is the
    development of operations that will
    maintain a constant pressure upon the
    opposition.
    If you push a negative hard and
    deep enough it will break through into
    its counterside; this is based on the
    principle that every positive has its
    negative.
    The price of a successful attack is a
    constructive alternative. you cannot risk
    being trapped by the enemy in his
    suddenly agreeing with your demand and
    saying “You’re right – we don’t know
    what to do about this issue. Now you
    tell us.”
    Pick the target, freeze it,
    personalize it, and polarize it.
    In conflict tactics there are certain
    rules that the organizer should always
    regard as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the
    target and “frozen.” By this I mean that
    in a complex, interrelated, urban society,
    it becomes increasingly difficult to single
    out who is to blame for any particular
    evil. There is a constant, and somewhat
    legitimate, passing of the buck. The
    target is always trying to shift
    responsibility to get out of being the
    target.
    One of the criteria in picking your
    target is the target’s vulnerability – where
    do you have the power to start?
    Furthermore, the target can always say,
    “Why do you center on me when there
    are others to blame as well?” When you
    “freeze the target,” you disregard these
    arguments and, for the moment, all others
    to blame.
    Then, as you zero in and freeze your
    target and carry out your attack, all of
    the “others” come out of the woodwork
    very soon. They become visible by their
    support of the target.
    The other important point in the
    choosing of a target is that it must be a
    personification, not something general
    and abstract such as a community’s
    segregated practices or a major
    corporation or City Hall. It is not possible
    to develop the necessary hostility
    against, say, City Hall, which after all is a
    concrete, physical, inanimate structure,
    or against a corporation, which has no
    soul or identity, or a public school
    administration, which again is an
    inanimate system.

  146. tellitlikeitis says:

    Foxwood, If you want to save any of these videos. Go back to VF’s old blogs run the vid clip to the end and the link will appear on the left hand side of it . Just copy and paste it on a fresh browser page and you can save a copy of it.

  147. tellitlikeitis says:

    My apologies foxwood. The link appears on the right side and not the left.

  148. VotingFemale says:

    In view of the rules above… we are singling out Obama… personalizing it… zeroing in on him… ridiculing him…

    and how do the Socialists react? By counter attacking with the race card…
    their Bush attacking is now null and void… ancient history. no value.

    but we counter attack with the RACEer card… and fearlessly attack the CBC as the Black equivilant of the KKK as they sling their race card for political defense…

    and we use that against them and single them as Black Racists falsely using the race card for ridicule and attack. their race card tactic failed… Obama admitted it…

    I pretty much ignore Jimmy Carter… he is a false target they put up to distract us… Obama and his administration is the target of applying Alinsky’s rules.

  149. samiam60 says:

    Got to love this guy:

  150. Foxwood says:

    Yeah, I couldn’t find that one tho.

  151. tellitlikeitis says:

    I agree lisa. Texas is like a country within itself and I believe it could sustain itself if it secceeded from the union. What would you like to see Kay Bailey become governor?

  152. samiam60 says:

    The best Defense is a STRONG Offense.

  153. tellitlikeitis says:

    Napalatano should be on the Supreme court.

  154. VotingFemale says:

    Glenn Beck is the perfect man in the perfect place at the perfect time…

    they apply Alinsky’s rules against him and it bounces off… he is telling the truth and brought down ACORN and that asshat communist radical Van Jones and is focused on other czars… and uses the facts and their own words from their own lips…

    that is their price of arrogance… hahahaha

    Glenn “asks questions” hard for the Socialists to dodge questions… and the bring down of ACORN has empowered Glenn Beck.

  155. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lisa, How much time does your son have left over there?

  156. VotingFemale says:

    You will feel better! ;)

    every arrow helps… and it feels good to boot!

    LisaInTX says

    VF
    I hear ya girlfriend…..maybe I’ll do a blog about a bullfrog….hahahhaaaaa ;-}

  157. samiam60 says:

    YEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWW LISA.

    I love the video :)

  158. VotingFemale says:

    These socialist bastards are now getting a taste of American Push Back…

  159. tellitlikeitis says:

    Glenn beck will be the poison to the democrats in 2010 the same as rush limbaugh was to them in 94. You have the big three chopping away everyday at them. Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck . they have the largest audiences and the biggest megaphones then you still have Levin and Savage kicking them at night.

  160. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit
    At this point, I support Perry…..Kay needs to stay in the senate IMO…and I have emailed her to this effect. She will not win here….Perry has overall, done a pretty good job here—he is NOT perfect, but he is so much better than most.

  161. VotingFemale says:

    Kicks their ever lovin’ F’ing BUTTS, LISA!!!

  162. tellitlikeitis says:

    I understand Lisa, Kay needs to stay in the Senate anyway. We need her there especially now.

  163. VotingFemale says:

    I would love to know that Obama goes to sleep every night thinking… “those f*cking Conservative Bloggers…”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  164. tellitlikeitis says:

  165. tellitlikeitis says:

  166. tellitlikeitis says:

    More Good economic news.

    US large-loan bank losses triple to $53 billion
    Regulators say US lenders expected to lose $53 billion in 2009 on loans larger than $20M

    CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (AP) — U.S. regulators said total losses from large loans at banks and other financial institutions nearly tripled to $53 billion in 2009, due to a deteriorating economic environment and continued weak underwriting standards.

    According to an annual report released by the four federal bank-regulatory agencies on Thursday, credit quality deteriorated to record levels this year.

    The report said total identified losses of $53.3 billion in 2009 surpassed last year’s total of $2.6 billion, and nearly tripled the previous peak in 2002, when losses totaled $19.1 billion.

    “While we expected a year-over-year increase in problem assets, given the weak economic environment, declining (commercial real estate) values, and previously weak underwriting, we were surprised by the magnitude of the increase,” wrote FBR Capital Markets analyst Scott Valentin in a research note to clients Friday.

    Since 2007, banks have been crushed by mounting losses tied to real estate. Rising mortgage defaults since have helped push the U.S. into a recession. While the economic downturn was first pegged to residential mortgage loans, banks and lenders are now having problems with commercial real estate.

    The report, called the Shared National Credits Review program, is prepared and jointly released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. The report defines a “shared national credit” as any loan or formal loan commitment of at least $20 million that was financed by three or more banks.

    Total loans across the institutions reviewed in 2009 was $2.9 trillion. The study looked at 8,955 loans given to about 5,900 different borrowers.

    The report said foreign banks held about 38 percent of the $2.9 trillion in loans, while about 21 percent of the loans are held by hedge funds, insurance companies, pension funds and other entities.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-largeloan-bank-losses-apf-3121886908.html?x=0&.v=3

  167. VotingFemale says:

    if it comes to it… these men and women will stand up for us… they are us.

  168. tellitlikeitis says:

    Where did everyone go?

  169. VotingFemale says:

    Tellit, you do not see my posts?

  170. tellitlikeitis says:

    I believe there could be a military coup in this countrybut the outcome would not favor the socialists.

  171. tellitlikeitis says:

    VF, I do now.

  172. VotingFemale says:

    if the socialists go for a military take over of this country there will be a civil war…

  173. VotingFemale says:

    and that is the purpose of the Socialists’ Civilian Security Force… just as big, just as well trained, just as well funded, as the US military.

    and everyone knows it…

    the showing on 912 of millions of Americans in Washington and across the nation in defense of Capitalism and against socialism was a very very very serious wake up call for the Socialists, regardless of what the Socialists say publicly.

    The American Mainstream are in this for real and for keeps… we are not sheep and we are awake.

  174. samiam60 says:

    Obama’s America

  175. samiam60 says:

    We cannot let this happen

  176. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam, that is why I blog and work so hard… to prevent this from happening…

    samiam60 says

    We cannot let this happen

  177. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam,

    It is as if… this is why I was put here… given this life… to do what I am doing… here and now.

    that is the passion I feel about what I do… and you do …what we are all doing.

  178. samiam60 says:

    One day soon our words will have to be put into action. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

  179. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam,

    The Socialists got a wake up call on 9/12/2009

    believe it.

    And we mean what we say and say what we mean.

    the showing on 912 of millions of Americans in Washington and across the nation in defense of Capitalism and against socialism was a very very very serious wake up call for the Socialists, regardless of what the Socialists say publicly.

    The American Mainstream are in this for real and for keeps… we are not sheep and we are awake.

  180. samiam60 says:

    VF said:

    Samiam,

    It is as if… this is why I was put here… given this life… to do what I am doing… here and now.

    VF,, I know the feeling and suddenly the real purpose of my life has become clear.
    I thought I found it in Nam.
    I was wrong. What we are about to face here in America will be like nothing ever seen before by man.

  181. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    Glad you like that song….I’ve been trying to write down the words to it…LMAO!!!!!

  182. samiam60 says:

    Socialism will not be removed from America without violence. They won’t let it end peacefully.

  183. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    I have NO DOUBT the hatred they have for us conservatives….we are after all, the very power that stands in his NWO and king of the world!!

    VotingFemale // September 25, 2009 at 11:49 am

    I would love to know that Obama goes to sleep every night thinking… “those f*cking Conservative Bloggers…”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  184. VotingFemale says:

    To Everyone reading this blog…

    Samiam,

    The Socialists got a wake up call on 9/12/2009

    believe it.

    And we mean what we say and say what we mean.

    the showing on 912 of millions of Americans in Washington and across the nation in defense of Capitalism and against socialism was a very very very serious wake up call for the Socialists, regardless of what the Socialists say publicly.

    The American Mainstream are in this for real and for keeps… we are not sheep and we are awake.

    This video explains our ace in the hole if the Socialists dare to attempt a military take over. The military is on our side.

  185. samiam60 says:

    When Obama loses in 2012 there will be Civil War

  186. Foxwood says:

    I’m here, I’ve been driving.

  187. tellitlikeitis says:

    The socialists are very dilligent. If they can’t get their agenda through the front door they will push it out through the back. I believe the reason for all the czars is because that is Obama’s plan b.

  188. VotingFemale says:

    I believe there will be civil unrest… but not a war.
    they have no army… we do.

    samiam60 says

    When Obama loses in 2012 there will be Civil War

  189. LisaInTX says:

    Awesome VF!!

    SUMMARY LIST OF ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY:

    1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

    2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

    3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to military tribunal.

    4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a state of emergency on a state.

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

    6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

    7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

    8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

    10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    OATH KEEPERS is an association of Military, Veterans, and peace officers who will honor their oaths to defend the Constitution, will NOT just follow orders, will stand for liberty, and will save the Republic, so help us God. Our motto is:

    “Not on Our Watch!”

    http://www.oathkeepers.org

  190. VotingFemale says:

    Obama is getting lessons in reality daily… Tellit…

    And a political battle won at the price of an American Mainstream shut down of Socialism will be their last mistake.

    They will be kicked to the curb… for a very very long time.

    they are in the second try at a ram through of the ObamaCare bill with a Thanksgiving dead line… and you can believe they will try to force the Senate and the House or Representatives to vote it into law holding their Thanksgiving Holiday as hostage.

    this is way past that tactic… their future political careers are at stake… they pass this? they can kiss their political futures good bye… that is how it is.

  191. VotingFemale says:

    Lisa… this is how it is…

    the Socialists are going down a road they best back up from…

    and the military card is not going to work for them…

    The Military is on our side… on the side of the Constitution

    On the side of We the People

  192. Foxwood says:

    Did anyone watch the Rush videos above?

  193. samiam60 says:

    I watched em Foxwood.

  194. Foxwood says:

    HIT HIM AGAIN! HIT HIM AGAIN!

  195. tellitlikeitis says:

    I wouldn’t worry about Obama too much. He is a puppet. The snakes working behind the scenes like soros, emanual,and axlerod are the ones we should worry about.

  196. tellitlikeitis says:

    I don’t think the American military would turn on it’s own people but there is nothing stopping the Chinese army invading here if the US welches on their debt.

  197. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    Rush was GREAT!!! I’m still LMAO at him hitting Gore…hahahaaaaaa…twice…hahahaa

  198. tellitlikeitis says:

    I watched them.

  199. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit
    The UN is the real threat IMO…..and nobama is all about sucking up to them….

    I hate too but gotta run….nice visiting with y’all

  200. Foxwood says:

    Tellit, I would have a hard time not laughing at a governor named Cho Kan Dong…

  201. samiam60 says:

    I think that Rush hitting Al Gore Twice with that car is nothing short of Racist.

  202. Foxwood says:

    forgot the h…
    that’s Cho Kahn Dong…

  203. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit
    One more thing…our soldiers are trained to follow orders and the chain of command—-in the confusion and guise of doing ‘good’….sometimes horrible mistakes and wrongs are committed before people even realize what is really happeniong….

  204. tellitlikeitis says:

    how about governor. Ho Flung Dung

  205. tellitlikeitis says:

    I understand. Lisa

  206. LisaInTX says:

    I sent that oathkeeper video to my son……though I have already discussed at length certain loyalties with him and believe he would do the right and true thing, it doesn’t hurt for him to see others that feel the same way.
    see y’all later

  207. LisaInTX says:

    Oops…missed VF comment.
    I hope and pray you are right….I feel more than half agree, not sure about “all” of them though…..

  208. LisaInTX says:

    There is NO Mason Dixon line that divides us this time…..nor state or Southern/Northern accent…..

  209. tellitlikeitis says:

    This Crisis Just Appetizer for Total Breakdown: Marc Faber

    The crisis the world went through is just an appetizer for a future one because the weaknesses that created it have not been addressed, Marc Faber, author and publisher of the Gloom, Doom and Boom Report, told CNBC Friday.

    “It’s a total and complete disaster and the crisis we had is just the appetizer to the big total breakdown of financial markets and of governments in five or 10 years time when the whole system goes bust,” Faber told “Worldwide Exchange.”

    The G20 meeting is not likely to find a solution that would prevent a future meltdown, as the people who are supposed to implement the new measures are the same people who were unable to foresee this crisis, he said.

    The issues of excessive leverage and the “uncontrolled, unbound credit growth,” as well as the bulging deficits and interest rates at zero are not being addressed, he added.

    “My view is that this G20 meeting is a complete and total waste of time,” he said. “Nothing will be achieved except that they will implement regulations that are even worse than the regulations that brought us all these problems.”

    Starting with 2002, former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan and current chairman Ben Bernanke “managed to create a bubble in everything.” But inflation pressures are building up, and the Fed’s measure of inflation, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, is not relevant, according to Faber.

    “If you have interest rates at zero essentially you discourage people to save and encourage them to speculate,” he said. “I look at the US dollar. Whenever a currency is weak, it’s weak because of some inflationary pressures.”

    Emerging markets are the place to be in the long term, because their economies are gaining importance in the world, bit this will lead to geopolitical tensions, Faber warned.

    “I think that people will have to rethink the world and that they should have little money in the US and have 50 percent of their funds in emerging economies,” he said.

  210. VotingFemale says:

    Barack Hussein Obama
    mmm mmm mm
    he’s a butt hole from Chicago
    mmm mmm mm

  211. Foxwood says:

    governor Chew D. Yang.

  212. tellitlikeitis says:

    governor Ying Yang Poo

  213. tellitlikeitis says:

    governor Fuk Mi

  214. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lisa says, There is NO Mason Dixon line that divides us this time…..nor state or Southern/Northern accent…..

    I Agree.

  215. VotingFemale says:

    the line is the Constitution…

    for or against

    LisaInTX says

    There is NO Mason Dixon line that divides us this time…..nor state or Southern/Northern accent…..

  216. VotingFemale says:

    and I can fake a Yankee accent with the best of em

    mmm mmm mm

  217. Foxwood says:

    governor Yang Hung Wong.

  218. VotingFemale says:

    What many ignored is now coming back to bite the country’s ass…

  219. Foxwood says:

    I can to a Cali accent, but nothing north of the Mason/Dixie.

  220. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    We had the Constitution before the civil war and looked how THAT turned out…..the South had to pay dearly for daring to follow in our founding fathers footsteps and using that document as a ‘barrier’ against non-representation……

  221. LisaInTX says:

    It is the victors that write history as they want it….such is the way of human society….
    The socialist have destroyed our very foundation of our great nation…..

  222. VotingFemale says:

    make R sounds A sounds
    make A sounds, R sounds

    paaak the caa in haaavid yaaad

    America is Ahh-maa-ahh-crr

  223. VotingFemale says:

    Who broke with upholding the constitution, Lisa?

    the north or the south or both?

  224. LisaInTX says:

    Lincoln refused to accept states sovereignty because HIS North needed money…..thus he FORCED the issue and killed hundreds of thousands of our country men to get it…..that is the REAL legacy that he left behind—though I think he did what he thought was right at the time in ‘preserving the union as he saw it’, he was horribly wrong with the methods and was not the racial saint so many have been lead to believe….

  225. Foxwood says:

    That makes you sound like a Kennedy…

  226. tellitlikeitis says:

    governor Wan Hung Lo

  227. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    The Radical Republicans of the North. They were equivalent in their EXTREMISM to what we have been referring to for the past year as Socialist….Marxists…..Left-wingnuts, etc….
    They are made from the exact same bolt of cloth.

  228. Foxwood says:

    Alltho
    i can sing like Peter Noone.

  229. LisaInTX says:

    The South dissolved their ‘union” association with the North and fell back to states rights and their individual sovereignty….Lincoln would NOT have that…..thus the war to FORCE the South under their radical heels.

  230. VotingFemale says:

    it should have never devolved into a civil war…
    and I blame both sides for it coming to a civil war… a lot of testosterone was flowing.

    slavery could have been phased out in planned stages over a period of a few years… to allow a transfer from a slave based agrarian southern economy to a non-slave based agrarian southern economy without destroying the agrarian economy of the south with an instant slavery switch off.

    and as I understand it… that was the crux of the problem and not based on whether or not there should be an abolishment of slavery.

  231. Foxwood says:

    governor Fat Chin Ho.

  232. VotingFemale says:

    and I see the Republicans in power in Washington DC to be the worst of the two evils as to forcing war to force dominance …when a compromise that would have ended slavery without the sure destruction of the southern economy and without a war was possible. Both sides broke with the constitution in my view.

  233. LisaInTX says:

    I’ve been study allot of Dixie lately…..and the more I research, the closer I consider myself a rebel separatist in my ideals….I’m almost a Texan Nationalist already and If I have to watch much more news of nobama bowing and sucking d— with the commies, I’d say that may just put me firmly in both those groups!

  234. LisaInTX says:

    Northerners owned slaves too…..Lincoln cared not one whit about that until Lee was at his doorstep and about to win the war—he wanted to tax the south on their property period…..
    few in the south owned slaves and that was not what most of them were fighting for….it was for having no say in their rights, just like we are seeing today with the tea party movement…..

  235. VotingFemale says:

    The country as a whole is too important for me to give up on, Lisa. And I very well understand your feelings on this.

    We will survive Obutthole… and prosper… but not without some pain to show for it.

    An environment was created to let them in… and now they create the environment which is resetting their socialist asses.

  236. Foxwood says:

    I’m just waiting for Texas to make it’s move, then I’m moving, Lisa.

  237. VotingFemale says:

    The north’s economy was industrial… no skin off their noses in an immediate shut down of slavery… the primary issue was economic

    LisaInTX says

    Northerners owned slaves too…..Lincoln cared not one whit about that until Lee was at his doorstep and about to win the war—he wanted to tax the south on their property period…..
    few in the south owned slaves and that was not what most of them were fighting for….it was for having no say in their rights, just like we are seeing today with the tea party movement…..

  238. samiam60 says:

    Oh my Lisa, Blush, Blush I am

  239. LisaInTX says:

    I agree about the haughty ignorance on both sides—they did not realize what would happen with all their arrogance….but the truth remains, the South LEFT the union willingly, had a president and it’s OWN government and was FULLY within all authority granted by our Constitution, yet were not allowed to leave based on a radical extreme NORTH.

  240. VotingFemale says:

    The north had factories and the south had crops…

    and that difference in the two basic economies was why the north won…

    cant plant cannon seeds… and grow cannons… or guns or gun powder…

  241. samiam60 says:

    Lisa you are presenting some facts I never knew before and I must say that the History books I studied in School gave a different message.

  242. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    I know…heee….a little smutty on my part for sure….hahahaaaa ;-}

  243. VotingFemale says:

    In my view it was an obscene display of testosterone on both sides, Lisa.

    WTF

    LisaInTX says

    I agree about the haughty ignorance on both sides—they did not realize what would happen with all their arrogance….

  244. samiam60 says:

    I think Gettysburg change the possible out come of the War.

  245. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    Come up to the NE corner of God’s Country…I’ll throw a shrimp on the barbie and have a cold beer waiting on ya!! lol

  246. samiam60 says:

    Houston High School on lock down after shooting

  247. VotingFemale says:

    and my tribe, the Chickasaw Nation, fought for the South… and it was the first time in their history to be on the team that lost…

    they were known as ‘The Unconquered, the Unconquerable’ and were the most feared of all Native Nations…

  248. samiam60 says:

    OTT OHH,

    Ahmadinejad: Obama Will ‘Regret’ Accusing Iran of Hiding Nuclear Plant
    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said President Obama, along with the leaders of Britain and France, will “regret” accusing Iran of hiding a nuclear facility.

  249. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    I agreed with you…..

    My point is this, the South already TRIED to withdraw from the ‘Union” and got trampled, raped, treated like trash for it….doesn’t matter who had what or why….the fact that the South seceded is all that is needed according to our Constitution.
    That Lincoln and the North waged war on the South for leaving that union is testament to how little that great document means when compared to a greedy extreme ruling government.

  250. VotingFemale says:

    Obama will, behind the scenes, get on his knees for Iran… and do what he does best…

  251. VotingFemale says:

    The war crimes of the North are well documented… they were barbarians…

    LisaInTX says

    VF
    I agreed with you…..

    My point is this, the South already TRIED to withdraw from the ‘Union” and got trampled, raped, treated like trash for it….doesn’t matter who had what or why….the fact that the South seceded is all that is needed according to our Constitution.
    That Lincoln and the North waged war on the South for leaving that union is testament to how little that great document means when compared to a greedy extreme ruling government.

  252. samiam60 says:

    HOUSTON — DEVELOPING: A Houston high school was on lockdown Friday after reports of assault rifle shootings in the neighborhood, according to local media.

    There were unconfirmed reports that witnesses saw three or four males get into a white truck and drive to North Forest High School in the northeast section of the city.

    One or two of the men reportedly walked onto the school’s campus, and police took one of the males into custody. FOX News has not confirmed those reports.

    MyFOXHouston has learned that North Forest Independent School District cops and the Houston Police Department are at the school and may be searching for a suspect in the shootings.

    Police believe that at least one suspect fired an AK-47 at a number of different locations, MyFOXHouston said.

  253. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    I this point, I am more for state rights OVER a centralized government. Especially considering the corruption that is located in the centralized location called DC.
    I think the ONLY way to win out over this corruption is to go back to basics and begin at the local and state level.
    Hit the centralized DC government with anything and everything we can to exposing their greed and corruption, but the main focus IMO should be on the state level. All states are individual countries according to our Constitution.

  254. VotingFemale says:

    And in present times… the sins of the Socialists and their corruption of the Media, has it consequences… even democrats dont like having the wool pulled over their eyes…

    this is part of what the Socialists have gotten so wrong…

    from: http://www.examiner.com/x-19823-PostPartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d25-Pew-poll-Nearly-all-Americans-hate-biased-inaccurate-corporate-media?cid=examiner-email

    Pew poll: Nearly all Americans hate biased, inaccurate corporate media

    Faith in the accuracy of news media has hit record lows, with more Americans than ever now saying the typical reporter cannot be trusted, that news reports are biased, and that coverage is shaped by special interests.

    A Pew poll of 1,506 showed votes who identify themselves as Republican continue to hold the most critical views of the news media, but dissatisfaction among Democrats is rising.

    On critical measures of integrity, confidence in news media withered during the Reagan and Clinton eras before stabilizing throughout the Bush era, according to analysis of the Pew surveys studying public trust in media since the 80s.

    Since Democrats have taken over Congress at the end of Bush’s second term, negative views of the media have risen rapidly.

    In this year’s assessment, 63% of those interview said the information in news articles was erroneous and a piddly 29% said media personalities commonly “get the facts straight,” contrasted with 53 per cent for the former and 39% for the latter just two years ago. The current numbers are thus the worst marks Pew has ever had on record for these questions.

    74% said the corporate media institutions reveal unbalanced biases when reporting on political and societal matters. The same amount of people also said that the nature of coverage is shaped by controlling special interests. These are also record lows for media trust in the Pew polling.

    Unenthusiasm for the corporate media increased across partisan lines, but rose dramatically among Democrats, possibly disgruntled Hillary supporters still smarting from the media bias directed towards Clinton during her Presidential run.

    The percentage of Democrats labeling the media inaccurate climbed to 59% from 43% in 2007, and the number of Democrats claiming the media is biased rose to a whopping 67% from 54% previously.

  255. VotingFemale says:

    You and I agree… the FED is overstepping and out of control… and both parties have done it.

    The Federal Government is a self-serving Special Interest Group

    LisaInTX says

    VF
    I this point, I am more for state rights OVER a centralized government. Especially considering the corruption that is located in the centralized location called DC.
    I think the ONLY way to win out over this corruption is to go back to basics and begin at the local and state level.
    Hit the centralized DC government with anything and everything we can to exposing their greed and corruption, but the main focus IMO should be on the state level. All states are individual countries according to our Constitution.

  256. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    I read history incorrectly just as you did…..what I remember, it was the North who was the good people that righteously put down the southern slaveholding evil doers….LMAO…..
    Yeah, that is what they saw themselves as and yet they were guilty of the very same thing….but that didn’t count, just like today’s Liberal Progressives, they fail to see the EVIL they are doing because ‘they know best and are the enlightened ones’—
    Greed and power seem to cause mankind to loose all reason and common sense—no matter what ideology they spew in order to get it….

  257. samiam60 says:

    I think just like today a great many Americans were very miss-informed and fed propaganda

  258. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    It is so sad that so many lost their lives on that battlefield….If ONLY the South had been Taiwan, then maybe the South would have been granted freedom from the Federal Government—of course, Taiwan isn’t paying taxes to the Fed, sorry, they would have gotten whacked too I bet……

  259. LisaInTX says:

    VF
    You remember well some of the attacks by those whack jobs on Ireport — I was told on many occasions by several that I could not be a democrat because of what I believed in…..I am still researching for where all that propaganda came from….how/when they changed our history
    Guess what? I’m back to before the civil war now and still learning things I NEVER knew about.
    The Cherokee Nation proudly fought for the South too….as did thousands of “free men of color”
    What many don’t know about is how Northern army’s FORCED blacks to fight in their army…..seems they took a page from the British past and “Pressed them” to fight for a cause not of their choosing….

  260. LisaInTX says:

    I gotta run again…bbl

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  262. LisaInTX says:

    Here is an article about Lincoln….does this NOT sound like the rise of Obama??? No wonder he compares himself to Lincoln, just not so much for the same reasons as WE see it

    http://mises.org/story/952

  263. Foxwood says:

    Lisa, Reagan was a Democrat. The party left him.

  264. LisaInTX says:

    So, Lincoln owed everything–his nomination and election–to Northern protectionists, especially the ones in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. He was expected to be the enforcer of the Morrill tariff. Understanding all too well that the South Carolina tariff nullifiers had foiled the last attempt to impose a draconian protectionist tariff on the nation by voting in political convention not to collect the 1828 “Tariff of Abominations,” Lincoln literally promised in his first inaugural address a military invasion if the new, tripled tariff rate was not collected.

    At the time, Taussig says, the import-dependent South was paying as much as 80 percent of the tariff, while complaining bitterly that most of the revenues were being spent in the North. The South was being plundered by the tax system and wanted no more of it. Then along comes Lincoln and the Republicans, tripling (!) the rate of tariff taxation (before the war was an issue). Lincoln then threw down the gauntlet in his first inaugural: “The power confided in me,” he said, “will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property, and places belonging to the government, and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion–no using force against, or among the people anywhere” (emphasis added).

    “We are going to make tax slaves out of you,” Lincoln was effectively saying, “and if you resist, there will be an invasion.” That was on March 4. Five weeks later, on April 12, Fort Sumter, a tariff collection point in Charleston Harbor, was bombarded by the Confederates. No one was hurt or killed, and Lincoln later revealed that he manipulated the Confederates into firing the first shot, which helped generate war fever in the North.

    With slavery, Lincoln was conciliatory. In his first inaugural address, he said he had no intention of disturbing slavery, and he appealed to all his past speeches to any who may have doubted him. Even if he did, he said, it would be unconstitutional to do so.

    But with the tariff it was different. He was not about to back down to the South Carolina tariff nullifiers, as Andrew Jackson had done, and was willing to launch an invasion that would ultimately cost the lives of 620,000 Americans to prove his point. Lincoln’s economic guru, Henry C. Carey, was quite prescient when he wrote to Congressman Justin S. Morrill in mid-1860 that “Nothing less than a dictator is required for making a really good tariff” (p. 614, “Abraham Lincoln and the Tariff”).

  265. tellitlikeitis says:

    Here’s on for you Lisa.

  266. tellitlikeitis says:

  267. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    I remember those famous words by Reagan. I just never understood them until last year…..pitiful and totally out of touch on my part for sure!

    Tellit
    Thank you!!!! I needed that!! Hugs to you and Fox—-heck Hugs to all my friends here. :-}
    I thank you all very much for your support and comments. Talking with y’all is what keeps me sane these days….

  268. Foxwood says:

    Lisa, this is the BEST country album ever. White Mansions…

  269. LisaInTX says:

    Hell I’m almost in league with Lincoln now as to being a protectionist!! BUT, I want to protect our nation against ALL foreign and domestic extremist that wish to destroy our Constitution and namely our state sovereignty.

  270. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood that was really nice, but here is where my mind set is today…lmao…hahaha

  271. Foxwood says:

    More in a metal mood huh?

  272. Foxwood says:

    Wait, there’s some country in there!

  273. tellitlikeitis says:

    Lisa wrote,
    Tellit
    Thank you!!!! I needed that!! Hugs to you and Fox—-heck Hugs to all my friends here. :-}
    I thank you all very much for your support and comments. Talking with y’all is what keeps me sane these days….

    Your welcome!
    We are jsut a small representation of like minded people out there that care about this country. Be assured that there are many more of us and our numbers are growing daily. It is our job to spread the word and educate others.

  274. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    It is the SECOND song on that video that had me doing a double take!!! LOL….
    “If you don’t like the rebel flag then kiss my a$$”…hahahaaaaa

    Tellit
    I hear ya. ;-}
    We must all do what we can for sure.
    Knowledge is power…..and nobama knows this and will try to silence us as he is already tried to do.

  275. Foxwood says:

    It must be Friday… everybody has their boat behind their truck and buying beer at Fisherman’s HQ.

  276. tellitlikeitis says:

    You know, I don’t know why anyone would want to fight a war for this country anymore. I would have gone to war and fought for the country I grew up in but not this socialist clusterf!!k we have today. In my opinion the last riteous war we fought was WW2. The other wars since then have acomplished nothing but the loss of human life.

  277. tellitlikeitis says:

    It’s miller time!!! BBL

  278. samiam60 says:

    I agree Tellit, all the wars since WW2 have been political in my view. Ten years in Nam and where is the out cry for the South Vietnamese people.
    Their lives just returned to the way they were for years and years. At least in Korea we held the line for the South. Iraq, Aftganistan I understand because of the Terrorists but how much of it is political. We need to fight to win and our wars should be quick and decisive in my view. God Bless our Troops but I remember being discouraged back when and wondering what am I fighting for?

  279. LisaInTX says:

    Tellit
    As I see it, the ONLY time we should be involved in a war is IF we are personally attacked. That is the only justification for causing death and harm.
    To defend oneself is noble, to commit harm on those that did not attack us is wrong IMO….
    However, to be an ally with another country comes with certain responsibilities….but I do not see funding anothers war nor empowering regimes over another. We have NOT been successful doing it and I think made matters only worse in most cases.

  280. samiam60 says:

    All the wars and battles that have been fought to Stop Communism from spreading and then we get a bunch of dim witted Americans vote in a Communist. Go figure.

  281. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    You Nailed it on the head!!!!!!!!!

    Took them more than 50 years to do it, but they did it for sure!!

  282. samiam60 says:

    Yah Lisa thank you and another thing:

    WHAT KIND OF PRESIDENT WEARS MOM JEANS TO A BALL GAME? wtf is up with that?

    Or were they Michele’s?

    Maybe a cross dresser?

    I dunno, just rambling now folks.

  283. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    There is allot of money to be made from war….those that make the money care not for those that fight them IMO….

  284. Foxwood says:

    I will fight if it comes to taking freedom away in the Unite States.

  285. samiam60 says:

    Belle Helicopter and Johnson made a fortune off of Nam

  286. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    LOL….and I can pitch a ball better than that too…..hahahaaa

    Okay–Beck is about to come on….bbl…..

  287. samiam60 says:

    You won’t be alone Foxwood.

  288. samiam60 says:

    Hope everyone enjoys Beck. I don’t have cable so I guess I better get used to being lonely at this time of day.

  289. samiam60 says:

    I need to get my cable back:

  290. LisaInTX says:

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH……………………………..Can’t even watch Beck without having to listen to his F—ing LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  291. Foxwood says:

    OBUTTHOLE HAS PRE-EMPTED BECK! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHRRRRRRGGG!

  292. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    Be thankful……Fox interrupted Beck to let the LIAR of America speak his lies…

  293. LisaInTX says:

    He ‘saved America from the brink’ and has much more to do’………….no shit!!!! Barney Franks, Pelsoi, Dodd know they can milk the American people for a few more dollars before they totally collapse our society!!!!

  294. samiam60 says:

    Everyone is SCREAMING on Sarah Palin’s Facebook page about Obama.
    They are demanding that Fox News put a stop to those interruptions. lol

  295. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    I’m with them!!! All set with my glass of iced tea and popcorn and THEN what springs on the screen??????? The lying two faced Jackalope from hell!!!

  296. samiam60 says:

    He is quickly becoming the most hated man in America Lisa. Just wait till he turns on the Kool-Aid drunks.

  297. samiam60 says:

    Ooooh someone in the crowd just asked him a question about election fraud. He looked quite annoyed.

  298. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    I agree…the more LIES that come out of DC and the whitehouse, the more rage it builds. The pot is at FULL boil and with every additional lie they tell, brings us closer to conflict that none of us truly want.

  299. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    IMO—The PROOF of this GREAT fraud is in the number of people that are against him and his marxist policies.
    They cheated fair and square, too bad, we just need to get over it cause ‘he won’……errrrrrrrrrrrrr

  300. samiam60 says:

    Here ya go Lisa:

  301. LisaInTX says:

    8 years of failed democratic-republican Marxist policies…..
    LMAO…..hahahhaaaa….like this just happened, but oh yeahhhhhh…..nobama gonna buy me a car, nobama gonna buy me a house, nobama gonna pay for my healthcare……..NOBAMA a’int gonna do shit but kick your ass to the curb, then throw you under his bus as he laughs all the way to his throne room where he’ll rule the world…… HAHAHAHAAAAaaaaaa..

  302. samiam60 says:

    Is that Obama’s cat or did the cat just see him on TV?

  303. LisaInTX says:

    How to piss off an insane cat————hmmmmmm here are two ways….
    1) Interupt her afternoon hour of Glen Beck
    2) Sing that horrible Barracking koolaide song MMMm Barfbag Insane Nobama….mmm …makes me wanna puke….. cause he wants Iran to have nukes….mmmm…mmmmm….blowing chunks!!

  304. Foxwood says:

    OH GOD! IT’S JEANENE GODAWFULHOLE!

    I PICKED A BAD WEEK TO STOP SNIFFING GLUE!

  305. LisaInTX says:

    Sami
    The sweet gentle innocent little kitties merely reflect how I feel at this moment….if only given the chance…lol

  306. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    I thought her name was Jean God-im-an-outta-work-ho?? heeeeee ;-}

  307. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    His unabashed crass
    give me gas
    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

  308. Foxwood says:

    I thought VF was pissed! Yikes…

  309. Foxwood says:

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    It’s not a joke
    your freedom yoke
    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

  310. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    LOL…..I almost wished we had a woman agent like in the movie Cat People……she could have sex then eat her mate…hahhaaaaa

  311. LisaInTX says:

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    He arrogantly lies and lies to us
    then kicks us under his bus

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

  312. LisaInTX says:

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    Talks of peace, hope and change
    though he’s hopelessly deranged.

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

  313. LisaInTX says:

    Yeah..putting out a fire with gasoline!!! Right on…real bummer….for the ones that are gonna get roasted over the coals of their own lies and corruption.

  314. LisaInTX says:

    okay…I’m all alone….sniff…need to go fix dinner anyway….see y’all later

  315. Foxwood says:

    Lisa, I’ve already asked VF about hers, may I use your limericks in a blog post?

  316. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood—Of course though they IMO are not near as good as the ones y’all did earlier…heeee

  317. Foxwood says:

    I just got to say, I would NOT want women to be cat people. YIKES!

  318. Foxwood says:

    I’M ON VACATION! YIPPIE!

    I’m going to work on my house all week long…….

  319. Foxwood says:

    Anyone get Glenn Becks new book yet? I just got it in the mail. Can’t wait to start reading.

  320. Foxwood says:

    I think I’m going to use it to beat up an idiot! It’s heavy enough to use as a weapon.

  321. LisaInTX says:

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    Talks of peace, hope and change
    when everyone can fully see
    he’s hopelessly deranged.

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

    He divides by race and class
    I think he sucks
    rubber ducks and
    can stuff it up his a$$

    Barack Hussein Obama
    Mmmm mmm mm

  322. LisaInTX says:

    Foxwood
    Congrats on making it to your vacation time!!!
    I’m happy for you!!! YIPEEEE

    Catwomen could be VERY useful in some black op’s don’t ya think??? LMAO….hahahaaa

    Oops—honeybun is home and NO dinner….gonna have to take him out to eat…syl……

  323. Foxwood says:

    At the nudie bar

    where the beer give you gas
    ans the Bundy’s kick ass

    At the nudie bar.

  324. VotingFemale says:

    SPPPPSSSTTTTT rrrrrrrrrrooooowwwwwwrrrrrr

    RAWRRRR!!!!! STTTT

    Obutt@#$% preempted Beck!!!!!

    RRRRRAAAWWWWRRRRRRR

    Get the hell off my Glenn Beck program…

  325. Foxwood says:

    EW! Now she’s pissed!

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  328. arlenearmy says:

    Those 2 bimbos on Hannity show need to be shipped out to Cuba or China. And they are talking about how hard their ancestors worked.

    But those 2 girls look like they never worked hard in their entire lives.

    And one of them are saying that she’s merely exercising her 1st amendment rights. I bet she will refuse to serve in the military.

  329. LisaInTX says:

    Check out one of our senators!! Hell YEAH!!! Makes me PROUD!!

    Update from U.S. Senator John Cornyn
    Friday, September 25, 2009
    This week the Senate Finance Committee began marking up Chairman Baucus’ health care reform legislation. On the opening day of the Finance Committee mark up, I revealed an analysis I requested from the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, which shows how devastating this health care proposal would be to Texans. The report estimates that Chairman Baucus’ legislation would increase Texas Medicaid costs by $20.4 billion over 10 years. Additionally, it revealed that 2.5 million Texans could end up on Medicaid if this legislation is enacted.

    The proposal we are debating right now in the Finance Committee is not good for Texans. The best estimate for its true cost is more than $1.6 trillion, it would cut Medicare by $500 billion, create massive new taxes on families and small businesses and create another thousand page, trillion dollar government program. President Obama and Congressional Democrats have consistently maintained that Americans who like the coverage they currently have will be able to keep it under any new health care legislation. But that’s just not the case.

    My colleagues across the aisle know it. Since they are so insistent on forcing so many Americans onto government run health care, I offered an amendment that would require Members of the Congress to enroll in the Medicaid program should this legislation become law. Not surprisingly, it was overwhelmingly rejected. Over the last week it has become apparent that some are more concerned with forcing through bad legislation to meet arbitrary deadlines than they are with getting it right. Never was this more apparent than late last night when I discovered that the Congressional Budget Office had made a $600 million mistake when estimating the cost of one of my colleagues’ amendments. The Chairman had hurriedly forced this amendment through on a voice vote before this error was discovered. I offered a common sense amendment that would require us to know the true cost of any amendment before we vote on it. It was met with great resistance and voted down.

    I continue to be alarmed over ACORN’s blatant misuse of taxpayer dollars, and I recently asked Majority Leader Harry Reid to instruct relevant Senate committee chairmen to investigate ACORN’s offenses and identify the sources of all federal funds that ACORN and its affiliates receive, so that we can ensure taxpayers don’t continue to fund this fraud-ridden organization. The Majority Leader is currently refusing to investigate ACORN, stating that it would be a “distraction.” It appears that for Majority Leader Reid, ‘oversight’ is a selective responsibility.

    We also learned this week that General Stanley McChrystal, commander of the International Security Assistance Force and U.S. Forces Afghanistan, has apparently determined that additional troops and resources are necessary to win the war in Afghanistan. I wrote to President Obama after hearing reports that his Administration is considering an abrupt strategy shift in Afghanistan and has yet to consider General McChrystal’s pending request. I will continue to urge the President not to abandon the very counterinsurgency strategy he began implementing just a few months ago, to supply senior commanders in Afghanistan with any additional troops and resources they need, and to stand firm on his promise to do whatever it takes to defeat al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. We must complete the mission in Afghanistan and do whatever is necessary to defeat al Qaeda, which has proven itself to be a lethal, mobile, and resilient enemy. The safety of American citizens depends on it.

    For more information on these and other topics, go directly to my Web site. I also welcome the opportunity to connect through Facebook, where I share updates, articles and videos related to my work in the Senate on a regular basis.To view floor speeches, interviews and other video messages from me, please visit my YouTube Channel. To receive additional updates, please select the issues that interest you listed on the right. It’s an honor to serve you in the United States Senate.

    Sincerely,

    U.S. Senator John Cornyn

  330. LisaInTX says:

    Hi Arlene!!
    I just got back from eating a VERY tasty hamburger steak with grilled onions, smothered in cream gravy, mashed potatoes and fried okra, with Texas toast! Stuffed to the gills and fixing to go relax with my honey-bun aka husband…

  331. samiam60 says:

    I am hoping everyone will sleep well tonight knowing Obama is keeping us safe.

  332. samiam60 says:

    The next video I post is not what it appears to be.
    This is too much like how Obama got in office.
    You must see this:

  333. samiam60 says:

    Pelosi wants Demoncrats to consider an Insurance TAX to help cover the cost of HEATH CARE:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/25/health.care.insurance.tax/index.html

  334. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning my Fellow Patriots :)

  335. samhenry says:

    Gutten Morgan mein wolf. I heard the lonesome cry. I am just quickly checking in since I am wrapping up a post for FRIENDS and then BACK TO BED!

    Have a good day and please give me some memorable quotes that don’t have to do with strippers or pole dancers :) – DOG OVERBOARD before Wolf reacts to last line!

  336. samhenry says:

    PS – really like this avatar.

  337. Foxwood says:

    Sieg Heil und Gutten Morgan fellow unAmerican Nazis!
    It’s time to unfurl the Confederate Swastika and fire the cannon!

  338. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning SamH and Foxwood :)

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  340. VotingFemale says:

    They are the product of Socialist Professor Indoctrination.

    This is the primary problem… we as parents have neglected who is teaching what to our children…

    arlenearmy says

    Those 2 bimbos on Hannity show need to be shipped out to Cuba or China. And they are talking about how hard their ancestors worked.

    But those 2 girls look like they never worked hard in their entire lives.

    And one of them are saying that she’s merely exercising her 1st amendment rights. I bet she will refuse to serve in the military.

  341. VotingFemale says:

    Good Morning Samiam! Foxwood! SamHenry!

    mmm mmm mm
    He wants you to worship Him

    Barack Hussein Obama
    mmm mmm mm

    Kiss your party majority good-bye in 2010
    Cause we gonna reset their Marxist Ass

    Barack Hussein Obama
    mmm mmm mm

  342. samiam60 says:

    Good Morning VF :)

    BBL

  343. samiam60 says:

    I think we can now expect a surgical attack on Iran’s Nuclear Facilities by the United States.

    Obama needs a defining moment in his Presidency to lift his poll numbers and get the support for Health Care reform

    This was and is a Calculated move by the administration at a time when the whole world is watching the UN summit and the G20 Summit.

    As usual he goes for maximum media coverage to stage his shows.

  344. VotingFemale says:

    Samiam,

    I believe Barack Obama lacks the motivation to Attack Iran’s nuke facilities. He is consumed by his Socialist Political Agenda to the detriment of the world and his coming lack of action to stop Iran will plunge the Middle East and South America into a Nuclear Arms Race.

    This man is poised to allow maniacs to have nukes… in the name of his Politics as the Socialist Messiah of the World.

  345. VotingFemale says:

    I need to go write a new blog post…

    Iran Nukes will be the subject…

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